V of BTS voted most handsome in the world

Ummm huh.

Uh, no, thank you. Next.

Nah, I'm good.

I'm sexier in action.

Let me save posters the effort in typing their predictable DL responses that the idiots think are clever. All you'll have to do is write the number.

1. Ewww. Kill it with fire.

2. Him ? Sum Ting Wong.

3. Is he trans?

4. Micro-peen

5. Ching - Chong

6. I want a MAN, not a girl

7. Me love you long time.

You cannot have eyes, hair, face shape or skin tone like that and be considered handsome by anyone's lowest standards

Good god, NO, nothing attractive ab out him at all

Will he now suicide as well?

Only white people can be attractive!

He looks like Zayn Malik? You weren't even trying with this bullshit. An Asian man looks like a Pakistani man now?

It's not that he is Korean that is the problem, it's that's he not very attractive. There are far more sexy Korean men out there.

Zayn is far better looking. This kid looks like he was assembled in a South Korean plastic surgeon's office, which I am sure he was.

I’m not into boys who wear too much lip gloss and eye liner.

As a straight woman he is not attractive at all. He looks like a trans female to male.

Did all of these guys have that weird Korean surgery to look feminine? It’s so interesting to me that their standards of beauty/handsomeness are so different than the west’s. I prefer a strong jaw and chin and non feminine features myself.

R5/R9 If seeing V makes your nipples erect, then pinch them and enjoy the view. More power to you.

He does nothing for me, however, and all the attempts to police who we find attractive won't make it so.

He looks like a middle aged lesbian

How a boy band from South Korea became the biggest in the world

(CNN)In February 1964, an English boy band called the Beatles made its US television debut.

Beatlemania, the intense fan frenzy directed towards the fab foursome, was gripping America and the group's performance at the Ed Sullivan Theater was punctuated by fervent screaming from the studio audience. In May 2019, over 55 years later, another band of foreigners played the same theater. The visual similarities were striking -- and intentional. The Korean newcomers sported the same style of slim-fit suits and floppy bowl cuts, emblazoned their name on their drum kit in the same font used by the Liverpudlian hitmakers, and even made their broadcast in black and white. But this wasn't the Beatles. It was BTS -- a seven-man South Korean mega-group which is quite possibly the biggest boy band in the world right now.

In April, BTS became only the third group in 50 years to have three number one albums on the Billboard 200 charts in less than 12 months, joining the ranks of The Beatles and The Monkees. The next month, BTS became the first group in Billboard history to spend five weeks at number one on the Billboard Artist 100 chart.

Like the Beatles, BTS had traveled from another continent to perform for their enormous American fan base. But that the South Korean stars had managed to crack the American market was perhaps an even greater achievement. Most of BTS's songs are in Korean, the group only has one fluent English speaker, and they were selling Americans a distinctly Asian brand of sex appeal.

This is why I could never get into Manga and all that anime shit. They are all made up to look like elves. To me it's full on body dysmorphia.

The picture at R18 looks like a lesbian meetup.

None of these kpop pretty boyband types have any sex appeal whatsoever. They are selected to appeal to preteen Asian girls and their DL counterparts.

Don’t compare the beatles with bts, please.

He needs a silkwood shower~! Only then, would I consider taking his virginity.

I'm guessing this poll is something only 13-year-old weaboo girls vote in.

Did the definition of handsome change?

He's not ugly, he's just not... handsome.

Every time I see "BTS" I keep thinking I'm going to be reading an article about the serial killer - "BTK."

I think whoever named them made an unfortunate choice.

They look like a bunch of trannies.

Actually they look pre-sexual

We would all like to welcome OP Helène Keller to our forum!

He looks like pedo-bait.

Jungkook is the sexiest.

asians are ugly

R18: They are not the biggest band in the world by any means. I find funny that the K Pop bands generally skip the critic of being totally prefabricated, in fact they are way more controlled than the usual boybands.

Their music is bland but catchy.

And the guy is handsome, that's true (but Malik was more attractive before he became a druggie)

Asians have zero relevance or sexual currency in Western countries. Ain't never gonna happen.

R33- racist

R33 do fuck off.

R34, BTS came from a smaller production company which gave them more freedom as artists to write most of their songs. The one thing that is very controlling is their public image. I don't think these guys have had girlfriends and if they did, they keep it very well-hidden or maybe some of them are gay. I know that Suga declared himself bi. The younger one, Jungkook ( R12) was slammed for possibly a tattoo artist (a girl) and then in another incident was demeaned by fans and the press for causing a car accident.

^^possibly dating a tattoo artist.

As seen on the cover of Non-Threatening Boys Magazine

[quote] They are not the biggest band in the world by any means

And by what expertise do you have over Billboard and CNN? So who in your opinion is the biggest boy band? You know, the ones who can see mega stadiums in 10 minutes? It's not only prepubescent teenage girls that are fans, I know grown men and middle-age women who are fans.

I think a lot of the derogatory remarks here are because they're a non-white, non-English speaking band.

Enjoy your fame and money while you can boys because it is very fleeting and will likely be gone by the time your 20. Saving and investing money earned is the best way to have something lasting beyond all the memories.

R38: I find very interesting that in some terms they are like western singers in the 70's where a hearthrob can't be married or having a girlfriend. Right now if you are a singers whose main audience are teenage girl you have to at least have a fake girlfriend. But for them it's the opposite, they have to hide any personal relationship, which is almost as sad as having to fake it

R41: Let's be serious, they are pioneers in the sense they are the first (or almost the first) k Pop band in having some impact on the western charts. But they don't even had a single top 10 hit on the UK and only one top 20. And in the USA their impact is very limited (none of their songs got that much airplay, and sales only were big on the first week of the release).

You are not the biggest band in the planet when you have zero impact on the two biggest markets. And they are not huge in Europe either.

And they make generic K Pop, there's nothing grounbreaking.

Are they successful? of course they are, but the biggest band in the planet, not even close

"Enjoy your fame and money while you can boys because it is very fleeting and will likely be gone by the time your 20. "

Your 20 what?

[quote] As a straight woman he is not attractive at all.

I agree — in fact he’s make a very ugly straight woman.

So ...”V of BTS?” Is this really how we are designating people now? If so how do I get my own code?

^^^he’d

The gossip around Houston is that BTS will appear at the Houston Rodeo next year.

[quote]V of BTS voted most handsome in the world

This World?

Do these guys have that Korean jaw shaving surgery that the women have and the double eyelid surgery? I find it odd that their features are extremely feminine when most Korean men I have known have masculine features like square jawlines . Anyone here know if that is the fad over there?

V of BTS, real name Kim Taehyung, is one of the few kpop artists I find attractive. His features aren't as feminine as the others

He's 23. even with make up on his face still looks masculine

barefaced

that neck

he's known for manspreading

He doesn't have my vote, certainly.

a deep soulful voice to match

....

All of the boys are now in their 20s and look a lot more masculine now. I think V is pretty but he seems like the dumbest member of the group. The one I find the most charismatic and talented is Jungkook. I can't take my eyes off him when he's on stage. He's called the Golden Maknae because he's good at everything, besides his musical skills, he's good at sports and painting.

If BTS were to break up, he would be the one to make it on his own.

He looks half Middle Eastern in my opinion. The transformation would be complete with facial hair

Ansel Elgort with V (guy with the hat) and RM (leader of the group)

I was surprised that they did a reality tv show in Los Angeles with Coolio the rap star in 2014. I would think their English would be better by now.

Um, OK, if you say so.

Androgynous/Pretty boys do not exist exclusively in Asia, I bet the ones who keep calling this guy ugly are the same ones who drool over western "pretty boys" like Chalamet or Styles,who both are 10 times uglier than V.

He's better looking than everyone from One Direction

Does it have a penis?

[quote] You are not the biggest band in the planet when you have zero impact on the two biggest markets. And they are not huge in Europe either.

I wouldn't call Europe one of the biggest market. US still is but Asia has moved to the forefront. It's not so much their singles that have made money, it's the massive amount of money they've made touring. They sold out Wembley stadium in 90 minutes so I don't know what you're talking about and all of their concert tours in the US were sold out immediately. They're worth 6 billion a year to the Korean Economy and the reason tourism to Korea has increased.

They bring an excitement to the stage la la Michael Jackson--not so much the singing but the out of this world choreography and the stage presence. However, the non-stop touring and performing is starting to take a toll on them.. Here is the early days when their dancing was more focused and fresh.

Here are some hot Korean guys that DON'T look like video game characters.

Judging a whole future of men on a single boy band is like judging American women from the looks of Britney Spears.

*future = culture.

My text to speech needs tuning up.

Well this certainly proves there's no accounting for taste. That thing looks like a convertible store mannequin. A simple change of the wig can turn it from male to female.

Ngl, to my western eyes, these guys all look so androgynous. I always think of Lucille Bluth and her adopted Korean son:

"At least I think it’s a him. You’ve got to strip them down to next to nothing before you could even tell."

R71 aside from Daniel Henney, the only other ones i find hot on that list are So Ji Sub and Song Seung Hun.

What part of V looks androgynous or plastic to you?

With the oldest going to the military next year and JungKook could be charged with a traffic violation, is this the beginning of the end of BTS?

He looks good here, with the black hair and suit with skinny tie, gives off young Alain Delon in a 1960's French movie.

I don't consider overworked Korean factory robots amazing. That is what those boybands are nothing more. Are we to the point in pop culture in which mediocrity is considered amazing. They are nothing but cheap imitation of western pop acts. Nothing original. They appeal to asexual young girls.

[quote] voted most handsome in the world

what world?

R79, you don't think the Hollywood music industry isn't the same? It isn't as blatant as Korea but it's still the same type of corporate mindset. Why does it take 8 people to write a song like Señorita? One song had to go through 12 people for Zedd to finally get a hit.. Then there's the sponsorship and the team of songwriters surrounding the artist, etc.

South Korea is churning out more and more girl and boybands but not all of them will break through and become a global success.. I read K-Pop was part of a government sponsorship to promote the country. I don't like the way these musicians are being worked to death though. Because BTS has become so successful, they are now in the process of suing their own company for profit sharing. Maybe some change can come from that.

He looks like a girl...not attractive. See Crazy Rich Asians for gorgeous Asian men, especially the actor who played Michael.

He's cute but the most handosme in the WORLD? No, Just no... Also, K-pop (in general) is so overrated and bland, most of their the songs looks all the same (especially in the male groups), I prefer the uniqueness and diverse style of the J-pop.

R79 I agree with you for the most part. But alot of those kpop stars have more talent in their pinky than some of their US counterparts.

That vote proves two things about Asian girls:

1. they have way too much free time on their hands;

2. they have a way too easy access to VPNs.

His face in OP's post looks mask like. It kinda resembles the mask worn by the killer in Alice Sweet Alice.

R84. You really did type that with a straight face. How do they have more talent when they copy every move from western acts. I don't consider dollar store backstreet boys imitators as talented. You must be an asexual femmy homo to think those twinks are attractive or talented.

They are very attractive but ignorant, white, racist Americans probably would not think so.

R88. You said whites. There are blacks who don't understand why those trans thing are a thing. Especially, when they rip off black artist moves.

Handsome? No. Just fucking no.

[Quote] You must be an asexual femmy homo to think those twinks are attractive or talented.

Is that supposed to be offensive?? Or do you not know how to make a point without using ad hominem.

He's a handsome lady.

R91. Of course you won't be offended because you are a femmy bottom who has a fetish for Asian male dolls.

They overcompensate for their femininity by using a hyper-masculine hip-hop dance style, but end up moving around more like awkward lesbian Kristen Stewart.

R87 how many pop stars know how to play more than one instrument or speak 3 languages??

Am I boy or girl?

most handsome... what?

[quote] He's better looking than everyone from One Direction

Agree. Those guys didn't exactly look healthy, they looked stressed and anorexic and towards the end, looked like drug addicts. BTS are dancers and look like they're in top physical shape to endure the non-stop touring.

[quote] He's better looking than everyone from One Direction

Now, there's a low bar to jump over...

This is such an honor! Just for this, I'm postponing my suicide to January.

Interesting article that compares the kpop music industry to the Hollywood studio system of the 40s.

Like when Louis B Mayer make Joan Crawford go to bed at the same time every night as per her contract, so it would have ruined her reputation.

At least two of those boys are actually girls. Possibly three.

R95, I speek five languagez.

I have played more zan one instrument.

You've played with many instruments, Vairst Letty!

R100 How miserable must you be in life to make such a cruel comment?

....

Looks like a Eurasian prince.

R108 ahem

Okay but what I really wanna know is, any chance he or any other BTS member might be gay? Do they hook up with backup dancers or something or are they really sexless? It seems like all they do is practice and tour and do TV appearances??

Fuck me, he actually has a nice voice

Interesting lyrics...

What's going to happen when the members of BTS have to enter the military?

This is exactly the sort of group where I suspect they don't do their own singing. These guys are hired for their looks, dancing skills, and media appeal. Why should their bosses hold out for singing ability as well, when these guys are never going to sing live in their entire careers?

Actual singers work cheap.

G-Dragon. You know he's badass because he has eyeliner, blond hair, and tattoos.

He's 31 so you he got Menudo-ed out of the band he was in. Hope he saved his coins.

[quote] any chance he or any other BTS member might be gay? Do they hook up with backup dancers or something or are they really sexless?

It's so weird how their love life is nonexistent. Some are almost 30 (Jin) and never had a girlfriend/boyfriend? The K-Pop rule of not dating seems so oppressive. These guys have lived together since they were teenagers. They work non-stop, even live together. You would think that boys cloistered together may start playing with each other when the hormones start raging. Suga is the only one admitting to being open to find love with both sexes. There have been rumors that the pretty ones are lovers but never the ugly ones. Their management must find ways to give them some kind of sex relief--secretly.

They're supposed to live together and not date? Eurgh!

Either they live secret lives, or they're the sex slaves of the Korean music industry powers-that-be. Probably the latter.

There's no doubt in my mind that these dudes are either dating or have dated in the past. Anyone who believes otherwise is insane. The most notorious Korean news media known for outing celebrities in relationships (Dispatch), has a provable partnership with the company BTS is under (Bighit), thus no way are they getting exposed for dating.

Jungkook started living with the boys when he as 13 and never had a normal social life. I think he likes girls because this video shows him being extremely shy and scared of girls that it's too funny.

There was a big scandal awhile ago when it was exposed that 2 K-Pop stars from different groups were secretly dating each other. Their label initially tried to deny they were dating claiming that it was a lie until the 2 stars finally admitted that it was true. Their label then decided to fire them from their respective groups and dropped them both from the label.

That's harsh.

"Jungkook started living with the boys when he as 13 and never had a normal social life."

Well that's all kinds of wrong! Like Lou Perlman's dream come true!

Was the kid allowed to see his parents, or get an education?

It seems like teenage girls are the ones posting in favor of this twink band. R119. Sounds immature like a 13 year old girl. I did not know DL attracts asexual teenage girls.

Cole Sprouse, a 13 year old girl?

....

V at the airport earlier today

Trending on US twitter last week at Jingle Ball: "who is the curly-haired guy?"

V is for Vagina.

I am sure that these guys are considered hot and fine and handsome by someone, just not me. but i usually am in the minority of which men admire other men.

R19. Asexual gays who have a fetish for Asian twinks. Those are the ones yapping about how hot this trans looking thing is.

I'd fuck him so hard.

Dancers are like athletes. They exercise more muscles in their body than the IG bodybuilder models you worship here. These guys can sing and dance at the same time and don't look breathless because their years of dancing are like intense cardiac workouts. They are in top physical shape, definitely not twinks.

R132. You tried it "they can sing" I hope you are not referring to them singing live. Most of them lipsync live.

r132

True and I really don't like the type that Datalounge queens are so thirsty for. And I am always attacked just for posting the men I like. I hate that shit.

singing live in concert a couple of weeks ago.

R135 Just how do you know they are singing live? People lip sync in concerts all the time.

They look like children to me. Daniel Dae Kim is so much hotter.

I love all of BTS. So adorable and talented.

I like the boys of NCT Dream. Very cute and they're very affectionate with each other.

This thread is primed for "Ok, Boomer." They truly don't get it.

JK looks really nice here.

R140. It is not only older people in this thread that do not care for those Korean manufactured ken dolls.

R142, "Ok, Boomer" isn't just for old people. It's for parochial, closed-minded, and prejudiced people. Read more. Get on TikTok.

Jaemin from NYC is growing up nicely. He's done a bit of acting as well.

A vocal plurality of DL likes big beefy guys. That's fine, but they're offended and hateful when other DLers express any different tastes.

R136, can't you fucking hear? There may be some recorded vocals in the background but my own ears can discern live singing.

R146, who cares - he'll never admit it. Haters are like that.

DL fave Shawn Mendes fanboys over BTS beauty: "They're the most beautiful men I've ever seen."

Jungkook with long hair.

Pretty fair one-hour BBC piece on the industry. They're very transparent about their process. Zero pretension.

A more critical take by an outsider.

Rubbish music sold to westerners whom were the inventor of such music. It is now watered now with cheap imitation of their superior quality pop music. Basically very cheap entertainment with foreigners whom more than half of them can't speak English fluently.

r152

Racist bigot.

R153. There is nothing racist about stating that those bubblegum terrible Korean boy band need to learn how to speak English. They make shawn Mendes look like brad Pitt.

They should just have a native English speaker always sing the English parts, like Mark for Super M/NCT 127.

The Chinese guys always sing any Chinese parts. Most guys' Japanese sounds very good regardless of whether they're Japanese or not.

Mark. He speaks English well. Canadian.

I like that most idols are actually polite and don't pretend to be "hard." They avoid drugs and sexual promiscuity and rarely curse. None of the music glorifies antisocial and/or self-destructive behavior. It's even acceptable and popular in the Gulf region.

It's truly pop music acceptable globally.

BTW, cf. someone above, Japan, not the UK, is the #2 music market. It's a much larger market than the UK.

Music markets ranked.

No one with soft features can be deemed "handsome"

[quote]I like that most idols are actually polite and don't pretend to be "hard." They avoid drugs and sexual promiscuity and rarely curse. None of the music glorifies antisocial and/or self-destructive behavior.

Which is why the music SUCKS. The greatest music and art comes from pain and addiction.

Elevator music had more depth than this pop crap.

has*

R160, the "greatest" new art may come from pain, but then the mainstream takes it and co-opts it. The mainstream isn't aiming for greatness.

We're going to have pop music anyway - why not pop music that reinforces social harmony and is more commonly find acceptable to people all over the world?

The rest of the world has had enough of antisocial behavior being glorified by the US and UK's music industries.

BTS loves gay people. One of them is bi.

Wembley. I want one of those Bluetooth lightsticks.

Enough of this bubblegum crap from Korea packaged as "western" pop which it is not. It seems a bunch of teenage asexual girls who like this crap found this site.

R166, it's not Western pop. That's the point. #okboomer

R167. You just like saying ok boomer since you have low intelligence judging from your obsession with this bubblegum pop group. You have terrible taste.

r166

You're obviously very out of touch. Many young gay guys love them.

R169. I am not gay so i don't give a fuck what young gay men like.

No thanks.

[quote] Rubbish music sold to westerners whom were the inventor of such music

Then white people should give back the blues, rap, rock and roll and soul music because they stole it from black people because that's where western music originated, you ignorant piece of racist scum.

I don't like how their churning out boy bands and girl bands like a factory and that these singer/dancers may be exploited. When I watch some of the K-Pop videos, it seems mechanical.

BTS stands out because they have more creative control and the two rappers write most of the songs and are pretty good songwriters. They also look like they genuinely like each other and have a lot of fun.

[quote] They avoid drugs and sexual promiscuity and rarely curse.

Hilarious video of them at the Billboard Music awards reacting to Normani's ulta sexy, booty-humping performance. They look like 13 year old virgins who never saw a naked woman before.

[quote]BTS loves gay people. One of them is bi.

They're allowed to date?

Is K Pop child labor?

R172. Temper tantrum like a twelve year old girl. Go play with dolls little girl which explains your attraction to Korean ken dolls. Judging by your comment you suffer from arrested development.

R172. Cry baby, who told you i am white. You are right in the sense that Korea music entertainment needs to stop stealing black music genres. Enough of the cheap imitations of r and b music and rap.

RM is cute

R177-178 is the music police and probably a lot uglier than the Asian guys so must be jealous.

R180. You really type immature like a twelve year old girl who is having a temper tantrum over a boy at school who looks like he will never hit puberty. Go play little child.

OMG, stumbling upon this thread feels like an anthropologist coming across some underdeveloped tribe populated exclusively by Asian fangirls who accidentally ended up on an isolated island and joined local paedobears , with its own bizarre rituals, objects of worship, etc.

[quote]Rubbish music sold to westerners whom were the inventor of such music

You're a fucking moron. There are brilliant, black musicians who died penniless because of racist assholes like you who needed to hear their music through Elvis or the Rolling Stones to acknowledge it existed.

How did you even have the nerve to write that bullshit and not get that is what appropriation IS. You couldn't find a more stark example than what you call "western" music.

BTW, stop making a distinction between Korean and "white" bubble gum music. It's all shit. All of it.

Whether it's this K-pop crap or Bieber or Menudo or BSB or N'Sync. ALL crap. Flavorless music coming out of a factory where they keep prepubescent boys and decide who'll be the "cute" one and who'll be the "bad boy."

OP, is that CONSTANT CRAVING k.d.lang in the photo?

R183. Go play outside little child. You are not ready for adult conversations.

[quote][R183]. Go play outside little child. You are not ready for adult conversations.

There is nothing remotely "adult" about the stupidity you're attempting to defend.

BTW, it's particularly funny considering that even the grammatical syntax is not "adult," but along the lines of a 12 yo with a crush on a 25 yo and trying to sound "adult."

[quote]Rubbish music sold to westerners whom were the inventor of such music

Whom?

Some of you kpop fans. What idols do you think are gay?

Why did this KPop cult thing start? It's like every teenage girl in the world is obsessed. Is it all social media marketing? They all really suck. You can see their manufacturing labels from a mile away. People who like KPop have no cultural taste at all.

I think I figured it out. This and Asian porn are products of the same entertainment industry in Japan, Korea, and China. That's why it happened so quickly. The mechanisms were already in place. They just aimed them at kids and young teens instead of lonely, pathetic incels.

okay, why are all these naysayers on this thread if they can't appreciate music, any kind of music for that matter.

I am tired of listening to the same old crap---classic rock and pop--- so I actually listen to current music today and some of it's really good. I love all kinds of music and if it happens to be K-Pop, so be it. I happen to like BTS, their music videos are pretty cool and the guys are entertaining and pretty good dancers. American pop music, especially rap music which is always at the top of the charts is meaningless rapping about sex, drug, getting high, etc. At least K-Pop is clean and has a positive message.

[quote] What idols do you think are gay?

Of the BTS members,, Suga (on the left) said his choice for a partner is not limited to gender. There are also rumors about V. What straight guy carries small tiny dogs around?

R188. Go play child.

[quote]At least K-Pop is clean and has a positive message.

This message is approved by One Million Moms.

[quote]Go play child.

You're already doing it, but you're not playing. You write like one.

Maybe spend less time obsessing over mediocre, factory-created music and more time in your English class learning how to use a comma, so you don't look so dumb.

R196. You are truly stupid and immature. Your kindergarten class taught you well.

R197, now call me a "poopyface." You're on a thread about this manufactured "music" calling me immature.

Hon, you're clearly very young or genuinely a moron, because this all started with your inability to accept the foundation of American/British rock started with black music. And referring to some horseshit about "western" music. What exactly are you defending? The shit manufactured music by BSB or N'Sync and getting all pissed off at Asians doing it just as lame as the "Western" version. You have shit taste in music and attacking Asians who have your, lame taste in music.

And I saw your other posts where you attempted to excuse the WP hand gesture. You have an agenda, you racist fuckhead. You're not even American. I know that from your spelling.

your lame taste*

BTW, my last post to you.

Enjoy the thread.

R198. You sound very immature and that is your good points. Go play outside little child. you are clearly not ready to deal with opinions different from yours.

R189, sometimes I wonder about Renjun from NCT (he loves drawing Moomin and going to the Moomin Cafe, takes ballet, and his skinship somehow seems more heartfelt), but then he does something to negate all that.

He really looks feminine. ^^

At least he looks like a feminine man. Some of them look like actual girls

I like the variety shows groups are already on. This one is a rpg game simulation show called Save NCT Dream. I like that they don't mind being silly on camera.

R139, Jaemin is absolutely beautiful in that. I'm entranced. Holy crap.

Found more Jaemin footage from that shoot.

Op is an Asian twink so this thread makes sense.

I like BTS more than the other groups because it's more R&B and Soul and they frequently have a message. They have strong songwriters in their group-- RM and Suga.

Here they are at their smoothest....Jungkook is very sexy and seductive. He is the Alpha male in the group.

There is a homoerotic moment between V and Jin at 2:48.

Not handsome in the least, plain and sexless, like a doll.

R146, pretty much every "live" pop act these days has automatic live pitch "correction". The great vocals you hear at a concert aren't what they actually sound like.

R172, Beethoven stole from black musicians? The instruments used in the blues and rock and roll seem pretty western to me. Did black musicians "steal" them, along with the English language that they sang in? Most black pop music today is complete shit, just like most pop music is in general.

Damn, here comes the racists, polluting the thread. People must feel miserable around you.

Just block them, r213. It makes for a better experience.

Yes, one is a racist for suggesting that not all popular music was invented by black people, which whites then allegedly stole. R172 even went as far as claiming that "western" music was the creation of blacks. Classical music is western music too.

But, it's ok, just throw the word "racist" around, it might distract enough for some that they overlook your inability to provide any facts in support of your claims.

Not BTS but can someone please explain me what is the appeal of this, from a female fan point of view? As a gay boy I was 'woah'ing at the video curious about blue-haired boy and his dance partner there because it sure seemed they were enjoying themselves and someone even had to come collect them... This is not about them being feminine but more like right there they just look like some gay boys clubbing like damn... there's gotta be some of them who are actually repressed and slipping at times like that, you know, not just that weird "shipping" thing where girls lose their minds when they see two pretty boys breathing next to each other. I understand a lot of that comes from fetishizing and that weird "well if they ain't marrying me they can marry this other guy I also like but also won't marry ever" mentality, but I still don't get how it can truly be attractive to women...

Another example - pretty sure it's also the same guys? Do girls really like watching stuff like that from their idols? What if one of them was actually gay? Would they genuinely be supportive or they just like them being gays in their controlled fantasies? 'Cause deep inside I'm sure they know most of the "gay stuff" they do is just bro skinship and boys being naturally playful/touchy... maybe not even natural, just putting on an act. I feel bad for whoever might be closeted, I don't even know if the "dating ban" is a good thing for them or not.

The first answer at the link is pretty much the answer, r217.

Girls find it cute the way they find yaoi/BL cute. The casual affectionate touching is just because they're very close friends and it's not usually interpreted as gay in Korea. The kissing is more for fan service, so girls get a little thrill from the resulting cuteness. Girls in Korea etc. generally aren't getting turned on by it, no more than they're turned on by aegyo (brief intentional displays of cutesy childish behavior).

It's possible that occasionally there's more to it between a pair of boys, but I don't think it's at all common. Maybe on rare occasions something lightly sexual (frot) has gone on, since they live together in dorms for years and usually can't date. I think it's extremely rare, however. The boys are on their phones and computers all the time and they have the fastest internet connections in the world: I'm pretty sure porn in private is the norm for them.

The crazy makeup like at r139 is part of the cuteness: East Asian girls want boy idols to be like dolls, thus the white face makeup, which is done whenever they’re in front of the camera and is very obvious (it’s openly discussed, as in, “Don’t put my on camera during the stream - I don’t have makeup on” etc.). Foreigners criticize how obvious the makeup is, not understanding that everyone is aware of that and it’s completely intentional. The tiny bit of pink eye shadow in that video and actually putting the makeup on everywhere (beyond the face)is a bit extra along the same lines.

It really is a pretty unique culture, and I’d hate for foreign criticism to lead to its elimination. It’s been around for literally (dictionary definition literally) millennia, however, so maybe it’ll survive even the Internet.

The gay shipping is not only limited to K-Pop. Remember the shipping where people assumed Harry and Louis in 1D were a thing? Or Harry and Zayn? It's all very stupid.

Controversy after V was discovered with a vape pen next him.

R220, the guy in the photo isn’t part of BTS. I’d say bad journalism, but its a user-created post.

I love NCT’s maknae.

The level of international fame and popularity that BTS has achieved is dizzying and rewarding but has its downfalls. They no longer take regular flights because crazy fans look up their flight schedule and arrange to sit next to them. They don't have much privacy. V addressed this in a video and said it's starting to get scary.

With their international fame and popularity, V said they can't take regular flights anymore because some fans know their flight schedule and book seats next to them. He said it's starting to get scary.

I don’t usually like the girl groups, but this came out the other day from Red Velvet and it’s pretty great.

Good for RV. I’m going to get a RV light stick.

Apologies I was incorrect at r221.

I've been watching this video, it's quite addicting. EXO - they've been around longer than BTS and more popular in Korea. Their vocals are stronger.

Pretty funny gay serial. Based on a webtoon.

back to me....

[Quote] Remember the shipping where people assumed Harry and Louis in 1D were a thing? Or Harry and Zayn? It's all very stupid.

It's so stupid Euphoria made an animation of it lol

These two don't sit together in public anymore because of the fanfic.

R232, is that V and Junkook?

Bwahaha ugly cunt

R233, yes. These three are very close.

Jungkook voted the most handsome now.

It's his dance skills and stage presence, makes him sexier than V, IMO

Junkook is very cute but he’s the most likely to engage in criminality in the future, I think. He committed some kind of driving crime and may be prosecuted.

Sorry, he allegedly committed some kind of driving violation.

[quote] Junkook is very cute but he’s the most likely to engage in criminality in the future

I thought I read that there was a girl in the car (?) but that was quickly erased.

He has tattoos down his arms. He seems to be the one that's most rebellious. I can see him breaking off from the group if BigHit doesn't give them the profit they deserve. The record companies would love him here.

The Big Hit story re a dispute over profits was fake and the anchor of JTBC apologize on air and resigned.

That said, I do think Junkook will be their downfall. But they’ll have made plenty of money.

Plastic bland kids with no sex appeal

So many haters and racists blocked thanks to this thread. Thanks, OP.

Gay K-pop storyline with Cha Eun-woo.

R243. has a fetish for factory Korean ken dolls with no singing talents.

V went live the day after his 24th birthday. Voice deep as hell, but is incredibly shy when filming alone.

Headlining the New Year's Eve performance at Times Square.

Loved it, r247!

Watching them tonight made me think of those Asian sex robots and the uncanny valley phenomenon. Creepy and weird af.

R174, that was amazing. So funny.

Last year’s NY Eve performance.

RM looked great. My personality is like Suga’s, but I admire J-Hope’s sunny personality. I like that Jin does charity stuff for animals.

Gets good from 1:03.

V - speaking English

This site got invaded by Asian teenage girls or gays with strong twink Asian fetish . It seems only two posters discussing their obsession among themselves and no one else cares. Judging by the comments.

r254, is that Jennifer Aniston in a short wig next to him?

In super into Cha Eunwoo of Astro and numerous shows.

I was impressed with his performance last night on the MBC New Year’s Eve show, which he also hosted.

Supposedly Cha Eunwoo is second in the “visuals” rankings.

Here we go again.....Twitter asking

"Who is that cute guy in the long black coat?"

He's stunning even though he doesn't act like it, he's mostly quirky and goofy while Jungkook reverted back to his coconut haircut and bunny look.

This explains a lot.

Thanks for the link, R262. Agree Jimin has the feminine/babyish features and is considered "cute" but V/Taehyung is more "beautiful." His features look more masculine and EurAsian like he had some Caucasian ancestry in past generations.

They don't even sound Asian.

Which one is the pink haired one?

Jimin and V

Remember when this was considered handsome?

That's the version of handsome that's dominated the Hollywood and Western media for years and made people falsely believe that if they were born brown or black and not European or Caucasian, they were not good-looking enough. Wrong. The world has globalized and the white standard of beauty is irrelevant.

Asia has been ignored for years by Hollywood and as an Asian, I'm finally glad that we're getting noticed. Of course, it's also due to the huge financial incentives Asia brings. 20 years ago, Takeshi Kaneshiro turned down a chance to make Hollywood movies because he knew he'd be stereotyped as the typical Chinese guy so he stayed in Asia to become one of its biggest stars. Geoffrey Gao--RIP-- had to go back to Asia, even though he grew up here to make movies and have a career. BTS may be a K-Pop band but in a way it's tearing down all kind of typical racial stereotypes. Who knew that a non-English-speaking boy band would be the biggest boy band today and dominate the music industry, making as much money as The Rolling Stones.

Quite interesting.

I don’t get why guys are this into Jimin. I love J-Hope.

Jimin's naturally feminine features combined with the heavy makeup and earrings make him look like a really pretty woman in face. Not sure why fans like to pretend there's a deeper reason behind his appeal to men.

Here he is without makeup (on the right). He looks more like your typical Asian guy.

[Quote] The world has globalized and the white standard of beauty is irrelevant.

No you know that's a lie. You even mentioned Godfrey Gao. Euro beauty standards played no part in his success?

Wayyyy too much fucking makeup on those gurls. I don’t appreciate marketing to make people look like porcelain dolls, or pre-puberty. Gross.

R273, how provincial.

R272, oh yeah, Gao was clearly European-looking lol.

[Quote] oh yeah, Gao was clearly European-looking lol

He had a mixed look. And that mixed look was Asian mixed with African, dear.

*That mixed look WASN'T Asian mixed with African.

He didn't look mixed at all. Someone hasn't been to East Asia.

Back to Jimin. Here he is with Cha Eun Woo. It's cute.

Sure, Jan. The success of this 6ft3 Taiwanese-Canadian model had nothing to do with eurocentric beauty standards.

There's nothing European about Godfrey Gao lol. Someone is delusional. His father is Taiwanese and his mother is Chinese Malaysian.

And both of Vanessa Williams' parents are black. That doesn't mean she didn't benefit from eurocentric beauty standards.

They're Children.

Back Off ..........

I knew it was a bunch of Asian twink arguing among themselves while masturbating to those trans looking things.

[quote]There's nothing European about Godfrey Gao lol.

According tos his Wiki, he's dead, so there's really nothing European about him.

They're in their 20s.

V wants facial hair but can't go for it because it goes against the industry. Love this fan edit

this one too

I like the clean-cut K-pop look. Korea's in the 2050s w/ re to tech and the 1950s w/ re to demeanor. It's not a bad combination.

What bowl cuts so damn common there?

*Why are bowl cuts so damn common there?

Jimin flirts with everyone, men and women. He likes to get close to people and hug them, sometimes invading their space.

Someone can't read. I didn't say Geoffrey Gao looked mixed.... I meant V. His face isn't flat like most Asians, more angular and a straight nose. Or did he get it fixed. There's a lot of surgery in Korea.

Do they bleach?

Quite the old fashioned nosejob.

R292, you're so naive. Of course he had surgery. Almost everyone in the industry has had surgery. In fact, the common flatness and wideness of their faces make them perfect for surgery and standardization.

Are these real people or animated Disney characters? I can't tell, some of them look like Mulan and others look like Peter Pan.

This black girl from the US was a K-Pop trainee. Someone told her that her head looked weird and they offered to do surgery but she declined. I didn't know the shape of a head could be changed by plastic surgery. She's not in a K-Pop group but still works in Korea as a model but they've lightened her skin in photos.

This is the first thread where I started blocking miserable, toxic haters, and it's made DL a lot better.

This video is great: I love how there's a proper way to be in the industry. There are standards. Everyone is polite and on time. They're cheerful and accommodating. Bad behavior isn't tolerated. The proper functioning of the collective is more important than the whims of any individual. This is why the rest of the world loves K-pop.

Artistry? Overrated, and not worth the cost of social disorder. Most people in the world don't want their countries to become America or the UK.

Peace, order, prosperity. Society working like a precision machine. It's lovely.

R297, I saw that one. It sometimes seems like all the people who couldn't make it in the industry end up on K-pop criticizing the industry.

Of course you can reshape your head. They have beautiful surgery clinics there: 20-story buildings with everything, including recovery suites, inside.

end up on *YouTube criticizing the industry.

But there's a dark side to K-Pop, R299. These artists are talented but do they share enough in the profits?

BTS has been working non-stop for years with only one month off and it occurred this year. WTF? There's videos of artists falling down on stage because they're so exhausted. I saw another video of Jungkook collapsing after he got off stage and his band members picking him up. Maybe working situation will change once it's exposed to the world. Then there's stories about the female artists that makes Harvey Weinstein look like the Pope. It's almost looks like a human rights violation.

Don't get me wrong, I love BTS and enjoy most of K-Pop but I want these people to make money that they deserve and have more than one month off and for these kids to be treated decently, not like slaves.

A picture of young V. His nose looks pretty much the same.

R301, after they pay off their debts to the companies, they make plenty of money. But yes, things must change a bit to accommodate rest and mental health - and they are changing.

Yoona loves V, I think.

They look like girly men.

This girly man has a black belt in Taekwondo.

Watching "My ID is Gangnam Beauty" right now (free on Viki). Cha Eun-woo is in it.

6:47 on is especially cute.

I love the hair colors. What brand of hair dyes do they use?

We're promoting gay panic videos?

[quote]The proper functioning of the collective is more important than the whims of any individual. This is why the rest of the world loves K-pop....Artistry? Overrated, and not worth the cost of social disorder. Most people in the world don't want their countries to become America or the UK....Peace, order, prosperity. Society working like a precision machine. It's lovely.

Crazy.

I was in a store today and noticed all of the BTS dolls were in a clearance bin. Now, I know the lifespan of boy bands is short and they are destined for clearance bins at some point, but I thought they were still popular?

Or did they just mass manufacture too many dolls and stores are trying to get rid of excess stock?

There's new iterations coming, R311. Same with the BT21 character items. They're clearing out the old stock.

There are plenty of sexy Asian men, my husband being one of them.

V is NOT.

R50 I’ve been to the Houston Rodeo twice. Saw Robin Thicke then Usher.

r298, creepiest post in this thread.

But V is beautiful.....

.... and Jungkook in motion is like great sex

Who cares? These lists are about popularity, not genuine attractiveness. For God's sake Woody Allen used to make these. BTS is popular right now, which is why this dude is considered handsome right now.

V's beauty..just look at that face and neck

R315, welcome to the future. Sorry you find it scary. You'll get used to it.

r320 I don't think you understand just what I found creepy about that post.

(Hint: it's not really the Korean girly-man singers, they're just silly and a sad symptom of the creepiness)

R321, I was thinking what time might call the dystopian totalitarianism?

what *some

Jimin and V (and RM) are so cute in the audience of R298.

[quote] Who cares? These lists are about popularity, not genuine attractiveness.

And who cares what you think? Of course, it's about popularity-- would Paul Newman be rated as a great male beauty if he wasn't a "popular" Hollywood star over an unknown actor no one has ever heard of? Genuine attractiveness is always subjective, like that person who said their hubby was hot. I bet if I saw him in real life, I'd rate him a 2.

[quote][R315], welcome to the future. Sorry you find it scary. You'll get used to it.

In your kind of future it would be illegal to do anything but eat, sleep, work or shit.

R326, and consume. Yes.

R298 Are you an Asia-born-and-raised Asian? Because if you are not, I think you are probably under a delusion about K-pop industry, or Asian culture as a whole.

The Brave New World Troll, a new one for DL. Could be worse, the 1984 Troll would probably be even more tedious.

So many blocky blocks...

Justin Beiber wants to be a K-Popper

Their Xmas thing in Daejeon was great. The stage and set were beautiful as well.

awww......so sweet..

^^secret lovers.

He looks transies

He looks transies

V today at an awards show

He looks so much better when his natural tan skin is left alone like in the image above. Really annoying when those fansites whitewash him

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Due to his somewhat western features, Koreans have dubbed him "exotic."

A couple Korean plastic surgeons have come out to say that V's looks are the most sought after by Korean men

They're always attending award shows. How many award shows does Korea have?

V is handsome, but I prefer Cha Eunwoo's nice-boy look.

I love his 'I could murder you' energy

Pic of V in that outfit in R344

This is the greatest concert I’ve ever seen, literally (dictionary definition). And it was at an awards show. Holy crap. I still don’t understand what I’m looking at during Mikrokosmos it’s absolutely amazing.

Mikrokosmos starts at 13:15. Could someone please explain how, when everything lights up during the climax of the song, what’s being projected where? Same with when RM draws the star — how is that done?

I’m just so amazed - how are the stars etc. being projected in the middle of empty space? Is it all holograms?

Probably holograms.

That whole concert/tv show was incredible.

I hope they perform on The Grammys and open up with Boy in Love---they'd knock their wigs off. There's so much energy and excitement in that performance.

BTS's new album, "Persona: 7", is coming out 2/21/20. Announced last night.

Preorders Thursday 1/9.

R83 takes me right back to my KAT-TUN days.

Jin Akanishi is the original Hot Messy Bitch but I thirsted him anyway.

Amandla Stenberg, still young at 20 but proclaimed herself bi, then lesbian, now that awful term- nonbinary.

Oops, sorry, wrong thread!

Maybe not so wrong, r353, since we're talking about boys who look like girls.

I found this pretty interesting. They're very genuine here, discussing among other things their public personas vs. what they're really like. English captions just need to be switched on.

They've come a long way from their American Hustle days 6 years ago. They attended a hip-hop boot camp in LA in the middle of Compton and mentored by some black rappers. It's funny to see them on Hollywood Blvd begging girls to be in their music video with their broken English or giving out leaflets to attend their concert for free. Now you can't even get tickets to their shows because they're sold out in minutes. The people who met them in the early days were damn lucky. The episodes are on You=Tube, its really funny to watch.

Twitter going crazy over the beautiful "man in black on the left" at the Grammys.

Handsome = vaguely androgynous? OK...

I prefer a real man thankyouverymuch.

with Ariana

They have relentless social media PR. Their PR people pay to trend them on Twitter in the US. For example, one day Paul McCartney was on a chat show and the host asked him if he’d heard of BTS. He said yes & the host - Colbert at least - showed a clip where BTS was asked (as if it wasn’t planned) “What’s your favorite Beatles song?” And they went “Na na na an hey Jude.” McCartney politely clapped and when asked why he thought his music was universal he said, “Easy lyrics.” He was obviously being sarcastic as BTS can’t sing a Beatles song with lyrics.

Well, Twitter exploded with BTS PR claiming “SirPaul McCartney loves BTS! Compliments their version of Beatles songs, applauds! Thank you Sir Paul for your kind words & approval!”

They started about 10 feeds they filled up making it look as if McCartney had gone on tv specifically to show a BTS clip & applaud it and recommend it.

Really strange.

But hey, it worked. I remember when Michael Jackson trolled MTV for two months promo’ing his Thriller album before it came out, claiming the King of Pop (which no one had called him IRL) was about to explode onto your screen. Coworkers - mostly male white guys, believe it or not - could not WAIT for the album’s MTV debut with bated breath. It was pure PR & it worked.

If PR worked for every band or every artist like this, then everyone who has PR would be just as popular. I don't think so... BTS has built a huge following from the ground up and worldwide for 7 years and now, it's become too huge. Their PR doesn't have to do much, all it takes is for BTS to make an appearance somewhere and for a non-fan tweets who is the good-looking one and their fans/Army are all over it.

The guy just looks like he should have a wind-up key in his back or something. Just not to my taste.

I really enjoy their livestreams on the V Live app.

They’re on James Corden tonight. Ashton Kutcher carried Jin on stage for fun.

After Jin military service is over, Netflix will lure him to star in a comedy series about an ex-K-Pop idol.

Trending #1 today.

He's not even close to being the most handsome K-pop star. Not when Kai, Shownu, Baekho, Hongseok exist

Cha Eunwoo might be up there.

Hide and seek with Ashton K.

Eunwoo.

V at 0.20.

R317 trying the link again.

SuperM are starting the 2nd leg of their tour and will be on Jimmy Kimmel Live next month.

There's so much talent and visuals in this group. They're still working in their original bands back in Korea. I hope SM is not overworking these guys.

Taehyung was drunk posting recently, Jungkook tried to distract him by playing a word game and Jin finally put his foot down and told him to stop and go to sleep.

Even with a face mask on V still looks hot

Him!?! They must be cock-eyed then!

He isn't big on casual wear, but I do love him in a hoodie

V with RM

Anyone know what this K-pop hairstyle is called?

Comma hair

No more coconut heads.

Jaemin and Jeno with comma hair.

Jungkook at the Grammys with the same hair style, showing forehead.

V: My face looks like a pancake.

I'm getting into NCT. So many cuties.

The guy in the yellow sweater is wearing a wig, right?

Adorable NCT

I didn't know DL is now invaded with Korean teenage girls.

R387 at 11:02. Crazy cute.

It's sad that he doesn't have a full name, only a letter.

Younghoon of The Boyz is my 4th Generation V. 🤤🥰😍

Fun NCT performance.

He’s in love with V.

All visuals

SuperM is the next BTS?

This is very cute. V has a male idol admirer.