Trump has unscheduled visit to Walter Reed

Hopefully he’s reserved a bed in their psychiatric ward. You know, the mental incapacity defense.

Pity the doctor who has to give Trump a prostate exam.

Step 1 in his plot to “reluctantly’ withdraw from 2020 for health reasons and to appoint Ivanka or Don Jr. as the nominee.

Hope and prayers!

Not as usually meant.

“Pity the doctor who has to give Trump a prostate exam.”

They’d only find mushroom gravy.

Thoughts and prayers

Dots & Mares

Stunt visit. They are desperate.

Now , now. perhaps he is preparing for his community service and learning the ropes of Candy Stripers. Except with his gut his uniform would only have 2 stripes.

Secret Service has been told to watch for bedpan contents being tossed at Trump’s face and bone spurs.

Just DIE already.

Rots & Pears

I guess I'm supposed to feel sorry for the guy. NOT EVEN!

He's laying the ground work for a "heath" excuse for:

- for not running

- for quitting before he's impeached

- for pity so he won't be impeached - how DARE they try to impeach an ill president

It's just a distraction by Trump to gain sympathy after the patriotic career diplomat brigade served him his ass by telling the truth this week.

Fuck 'im. Laying the groundwork sounds about right. If not, hope it's quick.

I bet his blood pressure has been through the roof this week. Even he probably decided he needed to get it checked by a real MD and not Doctor Feelgood.

[quote]He's laying the ground work for a "heath" excuse for:

dying.

"Oh, great. Yeti pubes and micro-penis."

What fresh hell is this...

I can't even imagine being the doctor who has to examine him. What a horror show.

“he passed the official threshold for being considered obese, with a Body Mass Index of 30.4.”

Wow. His Body Mass Index is expanding faster than the The Dow Jones Index.

He deserves a serious illness. We all need to be rid of him. I would rather he be hung by his neck but an illness would be good too.

Did Trump take off his navy blue wool overcoat and red tie that he wears constantly because he thinks it hides his fat? Yes, he said previously that he wears that long red tie because he thinks it's slimming.

News flash: It's not, and you're still a pig.

Prolly his hemorrhoids got so painful the prep-H wasn't working and a doc needed to get up in dat rectum and do some snipping.

I think something's wrong with him. His motto is "never let them see you sweat," not, "have mercy, I'm falling apart." Plus, it's the weekend. Who goes to the doctor on a weekend?

Now this is important, will every fat lady get down to the hospital, the White House, Mara Lago and SING!!!

The nurse drew blood and discovered the hypo was full of GRAVY!!!!

But if he does resign for health reasons, couldn't he then be indicted? What if the Senate does not find him guilty? And he waits till after that to resign? Can he still be indicted?

Is it possible that Trump is laying the groundwork for an “out”?

“He is too ill to continue as president.”

I am not the only one questioning how a non-emergency doctor’s appointment could become so necessary, so quickly, not the least because there is literally a physician on call at the White House at all times, and a small clinic within the facility. To go out of that environment means that “something” else is going on.

For God's sake, someone change the White House locks.

It's part of his annual exam, this is a nothingburger fake news story!

R9 are the stripes horizontal????

McConnell has told him that he must resign or the Senate will convict. This will allow him to do it "for health reasons".

His last annual exam was in February.

Maybe they are “multi-annual” as DJT would call them, when you are obese 🤭

There is no way that Trump would not run for re-election for health reasons because that means he would have to admit to having flaws. Donald Trump is perfect: he’s got the biggest brain, the biggest cock, the best President ever, everyone loves him, he’s the most handsome, and he’s just as physically fit as a 20 year old gymnast.

[quote]- for pity so he won't be impeached - how DARE they try to impeach an ill president

Oh, Christ, I can hear them now!

"The Liberals HOUNDED this pure, good man from office for TRYING TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT!"

How someone that fat, with that diet, doesn't have diabetes is beyond me.

It is only our Great President showing he is only human! The Libz have asked Satan to wear him down him down! He will come back stronger!

I think he knows it's over if we get his tax records. And that may happen in the next couple of months. And his resignation would have to include a pardon from Pence and Cuomo.

[quote] But if he does resign for health reasons, couldn't he then be indicted? What if the Senate does not find him guilty? And he waits till after that to resign? Can he still be indicted?

Yes.

He's impacted. Someone has to pick the rock hard shit out of his ass with their fingers

Maybe he haz problem with kidneez need chek out.

He will not be indicted if he resigns.

My first thought was that he gobbled all the sedatives he'd been prescribed for the year and had to go in early to re-up his script. But now I'm thinking he's setting the stage for a fake cancer diagnosis so he can fake his death and move to Russia.

Also possible: he's having such a massive freakout that everyone around him thinks he's had a psychotic break and Ivanka managed to convince him to see a doc.

Do they ever stop lying for Trump? It's no big deal for a man his age to need medical treatment and come back reasonably well--look at Bernie's recent heart attack. But then Bernie isn't a massic sac of cholesterol and Adderall.

I don't know if I can stand letting him get away with all of it. With no consequences, another Trump will come along.

Anal leakage. It’s finally gotten to a point where no diaper can hold the contents and they’re staining his suits and all the White House furniture.

If any doctor gives him an overdose of laxatives right now, they deserve the Congressional Medal of Honor.

[quote] He will not be indicted if he resigns.

I agree. He will be allowed to tweet out his days in Florida amid hangers-on, while working on some media project for OANN.

I expect him to issue a Nixon-like pardon for all crimes. Probably for since the day he was born.

Where is Pence and when was the last time Dump was actually seen in public?

Not that there's anyone left in the Executive who follows laws, but what is the law with regard to the VP being temporarily sworn in should the President have a medical emergency like being 5150'd? Would they, in a law abiding administration, be required to inform the country?

There is NO FUCKING WAY he did this to get a jump on next year’s physical. So he was sick. No doubt. The question is, with what?

Where's shaky Al Haig when we need him?

"I'm as healthy as a horse. A horse that's morbidly obese from eating McDonald's all day long for the past 35 years"

He was hospitalized for many months during the 80s for "depression".

Depression = cocaine abuse, right?

[quote] He's impacted. Someone has to pick the rock hard shit out of his ass with their fingers

Yoo-hoo! Right here!

Why not the helicopter? Not raining in DC today. Large car caravan instead. That takes a while to organize. So I don't think it was a sudden emergency.

Didn't Bill Barr go to a meeting at the White House late yesterday?

This is just a ploy to change the news cycle. Too coincidental to be anything else.

He wants to draw attention away from impeachment news.

I hope they leak photos of him in the hospital without his wig all bouffanted. It would drive him more crazy.

I swear I hope he has had a psychotic break and is being restrained to a bed and shot full of Thorazine. It would make the holidays perfect.

It's cold in DC. Why isn't he at Mar-a-Lago golfing?

I want him indicted. I think he was filmed yesterday at a meeting. I think he is healthy and will live past 90. Maybe he will fake illness and resign? I know we will not get rid of him that easy, I am just dreaming. I just hope he realizes most of the country hates his guts.

No way, r61. He would NEVER voluntarily do anything to suggest he was anything other than In The Best Health of Anyone On The Planet, Probably The Healthiest Person Who Has Ever Lived, Amazing Genes, That's What The Doctor Actually Said, You Have The Most Amazing Genes Of Anyone I've Ever Seen, And This Guy, He's A Hell Of A Doctor, He's Seen Everyone, He Treats Olympic Athletes, Can You Believe That? And I'm Healthier Than All Of Them, That's What He Said, Who Am I To Refute It? Just Lucky, I Guess. Better Genes Than Every Gold Medal Athlete.

If he’s in the presence of real doctors, they might very well commit him. Ahh, a boy can dream!

pray that the country might get a stroke of good luck

It is not nice in Florida this weekend, so he went to get more Xanax.

He is expecting Vlad for Christmas, so he wants to lose a few pounds.

Given his nature, I expect this is a sympathy ploy. "Oh, poor President Trump. Look at what those nasty Democrats have done to him!" Of course I hope it's fatal.

R52 and he’d call it something “like you know, a pardon to infinity. An infinity pardon. And I’ve tweeted it so it’s in writing. Infinity pardons for all” while he hands out cigars.

R65 did you read what the WH said? They're saying it is a pre physical test. Nothing to see here, move along!

R65 that was actually perfect. I even read it in his voice 🙌

It's been a rough week for all of us.

R57, what's the story about a mental hospital for depression in the '80? I never heard that and would love to know all about it.

The man has the strength of Hercules and the body of Tarzan. Those big broad shoulders, thick sexy hair, flat 6 pack abs....Yum!

[quote]This does not add up; the White House Medical Unit has very comprehensive facilities at the White House complex that could easily accommodate most of what is needed in an annual physical. As a fmr USSS Agent assigned POTUS, I have never seen the annual formality occur in stages.

He's going to visit his favourite nurse...

Maybe he wants to ask the staff there if they have any dirt on Biden.

Except this, from CNN's Brian Stetler, contradicts R32, who by their use of "nothingburger" I'm assuming is an F3*

*Fat Flyoverstani Frau

[quote] there is literally a physician on call at the White House at all times, and a small clinic within the facility

His symptoms were bad enough that he needed tests you can only do in a hospital-- I'm thinking an MRI, cat scan or Angiogram, etc.

There were Twitter rumors floating that he spent last night throwing MASSIVE screaming fits. Like, on a scale even he usually doesn't reach.

I still have "carted out on a stretcher before November" on my bingo card.

I'm hearing unconfirmed reports of a Slovenian whore wedged between his fist and the wall

R82 that could be any night though.

He gets ESPECIALLY enraged when a woman is the one who is making him look bad. That's why he couldn't stop himself live-tweeting during Marie's testimony.

CAT Scan?

Is that Tiger Woods at r78? Also, count me among one of those who want to hear about Dump’s nervous breaks on and/or drug addiction.

Cat scan for symptoms of a stroke. Maybe he was having a massive fit that he went into a seizure (crossing fingers).

There is nothing in the news about this.

Yesterday was a terrible day for him. Even Fox criticized his intimidation tweet while she was testifying. Has he tweeted today?

It’s out there r89. But it s Saturday night and everyone is drunk.

Hopefully he had a nervous breakdown because he knows the walls are closing in. Of course, to deplorables he just looks more sympathetic, since Democrats tortured him and drove him to madness with their relentless lies and attempted coup, or some shit like that.

Google Trump and Walter Reed...you'll find the articles.

Any news on where Junior and Ivanka are right now?

[quote] A contributor for the Hill who writes on veterans issues is claiming that President Donald Trump visited the hospital due to chest discomfort. That’s a different story from the White House statement on Trump’s November 16, 2019 visit to Walter Reed, which painted it as part of a routine annual exam.

CNN also reporting the trip was not on Trump's private schedule as of yesterday

Earlier today on CNN, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said it's "a bit curious" that Trump went to Walter Reed for an unannounced visit. The W.H. said it was for a physical. Gupta wondered if the medical team had time to plan for his visit. Did they know he was coming ahead of time? (1/2)

I absolutely believe the post at R94. This wasn’t routine. Bummer they sent him home. How accurate is Walter Reed at diagnosing? Is there a chance they missed a major heart thing?

For whoever was asking, shithead had a coke-fueled nervous breakdown 1990-ish

Maybe he's having a relapse, r97.

Please?

Hard to imagine if a President comes in with chest pains, they don't keep him overnight. I guess we will have to see if they order any further tests?

At this point no one believes anything that comes out of the White House.

R96 ever hopeful! Maybe they found something bad and sent him home anyway? Greater good and all that.

yes R100 -- that was something many reporters are mentioning, that the Boy Who Cried Wolf aspect of the White House makes it impossible to know if anything they're saying is remotely based in truth

“Unscheduled visit.” Trump in his limo, “Hey, why are we turning left toward Bellevue!” “Oh, remember, Dad, we were interested in turning it into a hotel and conference center?!”

Face lift.

Ees kidnee surgeries, like mine!

Brain removal, I hope. Am empty noggin would make better decisions!

I agree that nobody goes to the doctor on the weekend unless they’re sick.

He’s not going to Walter Reed to get his Adderall prescription refilled, Dr Feelgood does that.

He got his last physical nine months ago, so unless he’s in labor, that ain’t it. Also, someone on CNN mentioned when it’s a regular checkup for the President, they have to set it up way in advance for security reasons. He can’t just show up. The Secret Service has to go too. Also, reporters in the pool were not told where they were going, and were not allowed to tell anyone until they were done.

My guess is that it’s his blood pressure. If he called Dr Feelgood about it, he’s the one that probably told him to go to a real doctor. Probably didn’t want to be held liable when he dropped dead with 300/250 bp. They probably just gave him an XL dose of meds and an IV and waited it out.

I hope next week is even more infuriating, but why isn’t he on beta blockers? Dr Feelgood doesn’t know what they are? He seems like a prime candidate.

He had a brown folder under his arm. My guess is it was the EKG results they probably did at the White House. They told him to take it with him. And he's not letting anybody else see them. I don't think he trusts anybody.

[quote] My guess is that it’s his blood pressure. If he called Dr Feelgood about it, he’s the one that probably told him to go to a real doctor. Probably didn’t want to be held liable when he dropped dead with 300/250 bp. They probably just gave him an XL dose of meds and an IV and waited it out.

I guess this too. When the doctors' memo of his health checkup was released, I saw the footnote where his blood pressure medication, a rosuvastatin (Crestor) was upped to the maximum dose.

Hopefully he'll die of a heart attack in his sleep tonight and not be able to scream for help.

dr's note

R109, Crestor is a statin and is used for high cholesterol.

He's getting ready for his "I don't remember doing any of that" defense.

Lindsay Graham's tongue had to be removed from his ass.

Grab-em-by-the-Pussy scan, R85.

The whole planet would benefit if he took sedatives.

Sometimes it is for the best.

So he is on a high dose of cholesterol....with his wide girth and the junk food he eats, I wouldn't doubt he has diabetes which increases his risk for heart attack. He probably had chest pain, they did an EKG which was abnormal so they took him to the hospital where they did tests. If he only stayed a few hours,, the test they did turned out normal or they were abnormal and he would need to stay overnight so he signed out AMA. I bet he signed out AMA.

Was Melania with him? It doesn't sound like it.

Thots end prays...That Seecret Serves man have big long cock!

And the Democrat Governor just won re-election tonight despite Trump's 3 trips to LA to support the Republican. One just a couple days ago. Loser!

Agree, R119. FLOTUS took the opportunity to get some cock that wasn't micro sized. Who could blame her?

r116 - yes, the right combination / dosage of barbiturates.

What is AMA?

I'm following a thread where people are putting together clues:

-- Seems he got agitated last night. -- He suffers from high blood pressure. -- He takes stimulants. -- Mostly like was seen by WH medical staff first -- He didn't chopper over, instead went in a caravan.

The conclusion (absent any more info) is that he had a panic attack of sorts that combined with high blood pressure and abuse of stimulants spooked the WH med staff. So, in an abundance of caution, they sent him to Walter Reed, where in a controlled setting they lowered the blood pressure until he was ready to return to WH.

abundance of caution=he'll be okay, but let's make sure we're not stuck with body if he isn't.

BTW, Trump is histrionic enough to exaggerate symptoms to his doctors.

Let's hope it's nothing trivial.

Actually, its not surprising to me if he had to go in today because of chest pain, heart palpitations, etc. Trump took a massive hit of honesty this week. It nearly did him in. These things happen.

Against medical advice.

R122 what thread are you getting this info from? Btw, belly laugh for your line about not being stuck with the body!

FUCKING DIE, EVIL FUCKER.

If it's a reaction to stress I hope the Louisiana election tonight does him in. He keeps campaigning for these Republican candidates only for them to lose. He must see that the adoration of some of his deplorables is starting to wane. The 2016 election hinged on 80k votes in PA, WI, and MI; he can't afford to lose 1% of his fans.

The whole thing is just like when the Soviet antiques would disappear and the Kremlin would lie about it until they had the succession figured out.

Trump's death is no help unless it's from a fall from Air Force One in which he lands on Pence and Mother.

But if Trump is suffering that at least is fine with me. "Chest discomfort" says someone from "The Hill."

I want him to go slowly, preferably in a prison nut ward.

[quote]My pussy stinks and HE'S getting all the attention? I vant to go beck tyu Slovenia. Ent I ahm NYOT tekking thet hreetard boy vit meh.

Putin has decided to poison him, as his usefulness to him is waning. It's the slow acting kind, of course. 45 just realized he's been ingesting it for weeks, but doesn't know from where and can't confess that he knows he's being slowly poisoned without implicating himself in treason.

R131, I like it!

R127 = Rosalynn Carter

r133 wins the thread!

R131 this could work.

Some more info

---Video of Trump heading to Walter Reed below, anyone notice anything? Motorcade without local or State police escort and without a Secret Service Advance Team. Secret Service did not do an advance sweep of the hospital.

---Trump got there at 3PM.

---Walter Reed will not make any comment.

---Was seen walking in, didn't need assistance.

---No one has seen him LEAVE Walter Reed; no one believes WH

---The White House is selling his health hard, Press Secretary and Judge Jeanine were talking about his energy, vitality, etc. Fox News states that "President underwent part of annual physical, WH says."

---He has not tweeted, appears to be "voice of staffer"

---Just now tweeted

-- Visited a great family of a young man under major surgery at the amazing Walter Reed Medical Center. Those are truly some of the best doctors anywhere in the world. Also began phase one of my yearly physical. Everything very good (great!). Will complete next year.

Health, health, health, sweetie-darling!

That tweet ain't from him.

R136 a likely take if ever one was spun. What a strange way to try and spin it.

Wait... so supposedly he hasn’t left?

Trump won’t resign for health reasons unless he gets some sort of a deal. But he must lose everything if no jail time.

No one knows, r140. We are waiting for Fox to start playing Swan Lake on a loop. (The best current production is from the Russian Ballet Theatre in St. Petersburg.)

Can you imagine the hysteria if he just dropped fucking dead. Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity and all of them would just explode into pieces.

METOO R143! METOO!!

Jason Campbell @JasonSCampbell

White House Press Secretary says Trump has "more energy than anybody else in the White House" and Jeanine Pirro says "he's almost superhuman"

R122, AMA is internet slang for "ask me anything". Prominently used by celebs on Reddit.

Please be dead...Please be dead!

[quote] Putin has decided to poison him, as his usefulness to him is waning. It's the slow acting kind, of course. 45 just realized he's been ingesting it for weeks, but doesn't know from where

Coincidentally Melania recently learned how to make and serve him his favourite chicken McNuggets meal

R146 AMA = Against Medical Advice.

Out in the real world, AMA means 'Against Medical Advice', R146.

Also what AMA meaning was being used upthread.

It's anti-freeze poisoning, silly Americans!

[quote]White House Press Secretary says Trump has "more energy than anybody else in the White House" and Jeanine Pirro says "he's almost superhuman"

Tokyo Rose looks good

no it's visine for his red eyes

r146, but how does one sign out of a hospital AMA. I know what AMA in general means, I thought it was doctor talk.

BTW, we do not have confirmation that Trump is fine. Until he comes out to review a parade or something, we should begin contingency planning. Where do locate Trump's Tomb? I'm afraid it has to be NYC. Maybe a simple mausoleum with gold effigy on a gold sarcophagus. Very King Tut. Central Park?

They protest way too much methinks at r145

R154 You have to sign a form that states you are leaving Against Medical Advice so you can’t sue the hospital/doctors if you walk out and croak.

[quote]walk out and croak.

It almost sounds poetic r156 in these circumstances.

Stephanie Grisham is the ultimate sycophant. Remember that statement she put out saying something about what a Genius Trump is? Lol

Laying the ground work to resign for health reasons.

AMA also stands for the American Medical Association, but that does not fit this reporting either. Who knows..

I’m thinking TIA

R154 I think his Hollywood Star got trashed and is partially dug out. Maybe just lob the ashes in there? It’s pretty messy and looks good to go.

[quote]He’s almost superhuman!

Trump has a Hollywood Star?

His Hollywood star is fine. It sends its love!

Hope he dies!

"The solitary ego that revolves around itself and feeds upon itself, ends up strangled by a great cry or a great laugh."

R164 he surely does. I was surprised to find this out. And only did so as I saw an article saying it had been vandalized.

If God takes him now I’ll start going to Church.

r167 - I love Stendhal, but I'd forgotten that quote. Wouldn't it be awesome if he goes in an unstoppable fit of hysterical laughter. But only if its on TV, like at one his rallies.

Everyone will be all "I feel so sorry for him, can you replay it again?"

There’s no way it’s a heart attack. The man has no heart.

It'll be too anticlimactic if he just drops dead right now. He needs to stick around and suffer indignities for a looooong time.

The Ambassador who testified yesterday seems like much too decent a person to feel happy about having driven this asshole into the hospital, but I'll chortle with glee on her behalf.

. . .

We must think of his family. And hope that whatever Trump has is contagious.

Imagine though if he did just fall off the perch and the VP be like “sorry fellas, no pardons. That was Donnie’s bag”.

Will he use his last gasping breath to pardon Roger Stone?

The Russiapublicans are going to run Nikki as the candidate, then she will pardon Trump.

PULL THE PLUG! PULL THE PLUG!

Bone spurs are removed and showcased in the Antiquities museum.

[quote]Where do locate Trump's Tomb? I'm afraid it has to be NYC. Maybe a simple mausoleum with gold effigy on a gold sarcophagus. Very King Tut. Central Park?

How about one of those little islands in the East River with the abandoned cholera hospitals and insane asylums? Bury him under about 10 tons of concrete and declare the islands off limits.

Does he need a candy striper? I'm not supposed to give sponge baths, but if the curtain is closed, who will know?

[quote]Stephanie Grisham is the ultimate sycophant

She never delivers a WH press briefing & take questions, and only appears on Fox with select pundits.

No fan of Sarah Huckabee Sanders, but at least she offered amusement and had the early period of attempting to reply to spontaneous questions from reporters. Even Kellyanne, a master of fake messaging and deflection, would undertake confrontation. Grishman, operates in a total bubble. Cowardly behavior.

I’m available!

[quote] Also began phase one of my yearly physical. Everything very good (great!). Will complete next year.

He [italic] begins [/italic] his [italic] annual [/italic] physical three months before its scheduled?

The last report I saw was a pool reporter saying they never saw him go back in the WH and WH put a lid on reporting for the day.

So, does that mean he stayed there all night, or does it mean they snuck him back in? And why would they?

He's transitioning. He wants to be the first female President, too! Oh, that Donnie!

So young.

[quote]Hopefully he'll die of a heart attack in his sleep tonight and not be able to scream for help.

[quote]—Melanie in the other wing

I picture her sitting there as he struggles to get up the stairs -- like Bette Davis in "The Little Foxes".

His carcass should be donated to that body farm where they study how human bodies decay when they’re left to rot after being exposed to the elements.

Sorry, but what PR genius would allow WH staff to schedule a routine yearly physical a day after all these hearings and revelations? I don't buy this for a second. If this really was just a routine visit bc he surprisingly had some free time this weekend, they must have known he would look weak and speculation about his health would start immediately. No one would do that. I totally believe he was treated for "chest discomfort" and this week's hearings real got to him.

[quote] The last report I saw was a pool reporter saying they never saw him go back in the WH and WH put a lid on reporting for the day.

If he's in the hospital for chest discomfort = getting an angiogram like good old Bernie.

Hm, all that amphetamine use is finally coming home to roost.

"Stimulants like Adderall raise body temperature, heart rate, and blood pressure, and repeated use or abuse, particularly in high doses, can create a range of medical issues from a stroke to a seizure to a heart attack."

Sanjay says Trump is obese and has heart disease.

I heard Sanjay on CNN yesterday afternoon. He sounded like he was trying to say it was very serious.

Considering news people often know things they don’t tell us because they can’t prove it, I wonder if he was trying to say Trump had a heart attack?

He sounded like he was saying, if A happened, that means the issue must be B. Like he knows there’s only one explanation.

Or Sanjay is just trying to cheer us up.

As long as it is very painful and ends in death I’m all for it!

[quote]"So he’s one pound away from being in the obese category," host Alyson Camerota emphasized.

I think she left out the word “morbidly”.

He's fine. He shouldn't change a thing.

His annual physical is not for another three months, so something is up.

No one schedules a “routine“ physical on a Saturday afternoon. 🙄 That’s laughable — but entirely consistent with the rest of the lies coming out of the WH. And, it’s not like his real schedule is so Filled with events that he could only fit it in on a weekend.

They lie about everything. Every. Thing.

I am told Melania accompanied him wearing a pink suit and a pillbox hat....

“Everything very good (great!).“

He’s such a fucking idiot.

Are we even sure he went back to the White House? The only thing I could find about that was someone in the press pool saying they saw him walk out of Walter Reed with his tie off and shirt open.

With his diet he could be having gall bladder issues. When my father's gall bladder acted up he felt like he was having a heart attack.He probably needed an MRI. They told him to change his diet, and upp0ed his dosage on his tranquilizers. Trouble is, he's probably constipated too. Those opioids will do that.

I think it's one, huge anxiety attack. Nothing more, nothing less.

Whatever stress he is under is all self-inflicted, so fuck the old fucking bastard. Just good old karma exacting its revenge for Trump being such a huge prick his entire life.

Hopefully, Trump will die a miserable death just like his mentor, slimeball Roy Cohn (if "Angels in America" is to be believed).

It may have been a false alarm but I don't believe for a second that he decided to start his annual physical three months early on a Saturday.

I blocked the troll who used the term "nothingburger" although maybe you were joking.

I think we need to discuss the real horror that is Pence too.

Thinking of stopping by a hospital today unscheduled to complete a portion of my routine annual physical. Not the whole thing. Just a portion.

As one does.

[quote]White House Press Secretary says Trump has "more energy than anybody else in the White House" and Jeanine Pirro says "he's almost superhuman"

Tom Nichols:

Like I keep saying, at some point this isn't about politics; when you're saying a lazy old man whose day is mostly golfing and rage-tweeting is almost "superhuman," you're in North Korean territory and there shouldn't be enough money in the world to make you say stuff like that.

Pence is indeed a horror Lucifer and in many ways worse than Trump, but he fortunately lacks charisma. He'd make a wonderful Fox News anchorman, and could play a Senator on CSI or another procedural, but he'll have trouble motivating Trump's base

Acute reflux can also give you sudden debilitating chest pain which is quite different from the normal long burning sensation. Not life-threatening at all, but at his age and in his office, you'd expect the dr to send him for heart tests even if he thought it was something milder.

I think they 5150’d him since there’s no evidence that he’s left WR.

I’m waiting to hear some good news.

I could see him using a bogus health problem to get out of this. He's a slippery side stepper. If multiple bankruptcies didn't cause him to lose face then using a health excuse won't faze him.

He's definitely against facing the music for his sins.

All Presidents annual physicals are probably at Walter Reed. I doubt they have an MRI machine at the small clinic at the White House.

I'm sorry, they ARE at Walter Reed, not probably. It's a quick 2 second Google to prove that out. It's just where they go.

Whatever it is, a hospital visit after a week of bad news in the impeachment inquiry, still makes me very happy.

His narcissistic wound's infected again.

He’s legally required [ha!] to have a physical in the year 2020, and him having two physicals in 2019 does not change that. In other words: there’s no way this was part of a routine physical.

“Legally required” is a phrase that doesn’t mean much to Trump and his administration.

Twitterus Gangreneous Infection.

His fingers had to be amputated.

I don't think illness would bring him sympathy. it would give repubs a good excuse to abandon him.

Maybe he’s being sequestered, prior to elimination.

R225 he’d probably get talk to text software and keep tweeting 😂

Maybe his syphilis is flaring up again. That and shingles can be triggered by stress.

[quote]Stephanie Grisham claims Trump is ‘healthy’ and ‘without complaints’ after surprise visit to hospital

This is odd because his entire corporeal and psychic mass is constructed from complaints.

If they bury him in nyc, just one question — how long does it take urine to pass through six feet of soil?

Hoping for a happy ending.

Have appointment to get teeth cleaned in February. Going to walk in today, have three molars cleaned. Will be very good (great!). Will complete next year.

#KeepingProphyGreat

What makes you think he'll be buried in NYC? He'll be planted at one of his gold courses to drum up business.

Who doesn’t think the WH would keep his demise a secret long enough to destroy the evidence that compromises them? No Trump no pardon.

Buried? Why would anyone want to bury the magnificence? He be placed in a glass tomb in the lobby of Trump Tower.

R235 If the plot of Weekend at Bernie’s is anything to go by, it could be a lot worse than that. Just substitute Graham and Nunes, and a weekend at Mar-a-Lago.

[quote]Fun-loving salesmen Richard (Jonathan Silverman) and Larry (Andrew McCarthy) are invited by their boss, Bernie (Terry Kiser), to stay the weekend at his posh beach house. Little do they know that Bernie is the perpetrator of a fraud they've uncovered and is arranging to have them killed. When the plan backfires and Bernie is killed instead, the buddies decide not to let a little death spoil their vacation. They pretend Bernie is still alive, leading to hijinks and corpse desecration galore.

Not normal.

[quote] He be placed in a glass tomb in the lobby of Trump Tower.

Hopefully with his arm around a cutout of Putin, flashing that rictus grin of his and giving a thumbs up.

I went to Betty Ford!!

Does anyone doubt his last dying breath will be exhaled from his rectum?

ugh, disgusting sludge

I'd say POTUS needed attention for a psychotic break, but that could easily have been said about him anytime in the past 3 years.

He looks like a very unhealthy person. He looks like he has high blood pressure, diabetes, acid reflux, gallbladder disease. He has been sedentary all his life and if he uses amphetamines, that's a toll an old person's heart. And stress can kill you.

His lawyers are trying so hard for Congress not to see his tax returns. Why would he fight so hard for no one to see the tax returns? He will probably be impeached, the GOP Senate will acquit him but he will resign first before we can see his tax returns.

"Why would he fight so hard for no one to see the tax returns?"

A. He doesn't have the wealth he claims he does.

B. He's in hock up to his beady eyeballs in debt.

C. Putin and other Russian oligarchs own that debt.

D. A substantial part of the little income he has coming in is from illegal activities, including money laundering and drug/human trafficking. Of course, that won't be on the tax returns, and since it isn't included in income, this is where they'll nail his fat ass, just like Al Capone.

[quote] We must think of his family. And hope that whatever Trump has is contagious.

My hope is that all the GOP honchos and elected representatives who claim to be behind him 100% and publicly champion him follow his diet of Adderall and fast food in vast quantities.

r245, DING! DING! DING!

[quote] He looks like a very unhealthy person. He looks like he has high blood pressure, diabetes, acid reflux, gallbladder disease. He has been sedentary all his life and if he uses amphetamines, that's a toll an old person's heart. And stress can kill you

I want a dataset (records can number as low as ten) of estimates of his height and his waist circumference. The Waist to Height Ratio is regarded as more accurate a signifier of obesity and health problems than Body Mass Index (BMI). I also want his Coronary Artery Calcium score public.

I think Rahm Emanuel said it best today, r245, he wants the world to see him as the character he plays and not the man he really is.

Why do people think he does Adderall and amphetamines? I would believe he did cocaine in the 80s and maybe 90s. His drug of choice seems to be food.

R248, all you have to do is look at his wide unhealthy gut and fat ass and how much it's grown the past 3 years. He often looks short of breath after he walks. But good luck in getting the data.

a doctor came forth with scrips for adderal and such

He required medical attention because he’s been shitting bricks lately.

His Coronary Artery Calcium (CAC) score rose from 98 in 2013 to 133 in 2019, despite "the best care" from WR and WH physicians and his "excellent health." Increased statin dosage raises CAC scores.

The Medical Examiner performing the autopsy will be like Poirot revealing the culprits in [i]Murder of the Orient Express[/i]: It was the liver damage, and the obesity, and the arterosclerosis, and the aneurysm...

I hope he gets enough kidney stones to build his wall.

CNN sounded as if they did not believe he was just getting routine blood work.

I'm sending thoughts and prayers... That they find something fatal.

Agreed, r249.

Trump even cons and grifts himself.

R250, he himself talked spoke it back in the ‘80s, how was thrilled that he never slept any more.

Actually, his drug use was described in the 1992 Spy magazine story about him. He went to a doctor who was famous for prescribing Adderall.

[quote]I think it's one, huge anxiety attack. Nothing more, nothing less.

r208 I agree. We have a clip of him walking briskly to the SUV taking him to Walter Reed.

Trump is very histrionic, he is the very type to exagerrate symptons to his MD. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't insist on going to Walter Reed to get out of the WH.

My guess is that he had a resting EKG at the WH and maybe there were some irregularities, so they sent him to Walter Reed for a nuclear imaging stress test, which they probably don't do at the WH. They inject a dye in your artery at your elbow notch and then you have a test at rest and then walking or running on a treadmill and they compare the resting and stress test results. I've had one of these a couple of times. If he genuinely left after a couple of hours, it was probably not serious.

R207 mentioned gall bladder issues. I think Trump has already had his gall bladder taken out. I'm speculating. But I know people, younger than Trump, less fat than Trump, who had gall bladders taken out.

Gall bladder surgery (unless it has burst) is not life-threatening.

bless you, r248, i’ve lifted weights for 15 years and irrationally resent the BMI scale classifying me as obese. i’d never encountered the HWR, which says i’m “healthy.” you just made my day.

okay, back to hatin’ on Hair Fuhrer.

Like Melanie’s “kidney procedure” earlier this year, I doubt we’ll ever know what really happened here. Whatever it was, it was NOT “routine.”

Plots & Snares

I seriously doubt that he still abuses adderall. Adderall is an appetite suppressant and a metabolic stimulant. People lose weight on adderall. People do, however, gain a lot of weight after stopping adderall.

Now ask yourself...does he look like someone whose appetite is being suppressed and whose metabolism is being stimulated?

What about his alleged Sudafed snorting habit, could that be a contributing factor to whatever is going on.

R262 - buzz killer!

R265 it certainly didn’t seem to be to fix those wonky tits

What’s wonky about Donald's tits, r270? Oh...you meant Melania's. Never mind.

R262, I thought those types of tests required a six to eight hour duration... there’s a whole series of being injected and then measured. Or am I thinking of something else? (A friend had it done years ago, so maybe things have changed?)

Please everyone, remember this man has a family who've rallied around him. A wife and children who are at his side right now. We should all be hoping and praying that whatever he has, it’s highly contagious.

One wouldn't wait six hours if it were a perceived emergency. Which undermines the annual checkup excuse.

[quote]and then walking or running on a treadmill

In what world do you envision Orange doing that?

He can't walk up/down two steps or get from a car to a building without a golf cart.

[quote]He's fine. He shouldn't change a thing. —VP Mike Pence, just sitting here waiting

I also am sitting here waiting. In my room. For three years.

I thought Melania had a kidney stone surgically removed?

Lá Sénatrice got her whole head stuck up Bone Spurs ass. It was a delicate procedure removing it. Both are doing OK now.

As someone on Twitter pointed out, as much as we hate Trump, he's got a family, so let's hope that whatever he has is contagious.

Tall men are generally long-lived however the fact he is packing weight on in his 70's is of course the opposite of healthy.

A man in his seventies, who snorts ADDERALL, has a number of possible issues which could necessitate a hospital visit. Unfortunately for our country, however, EVIL. DIES. HARD.

I personally DGAF how he croaks, as long as it comes with unimaginable amounts of pain.

This thread is kind of dumb conjecture. Most of the people posting have been to the hospital for chest discomfort, rapid heart rate, reflux or kidney stones or high blood pressure. Old white men, over 60. You're mostly the same, health wise. That's how you come up with these things. Lots of 40 year olds have been to hospital with a racing heart, in need of fluids. (me) Drugs are fine most of the time. I get the fantasy and wish fulfillment, but you reveal more about your own health than what we know of Trumps. He is no more likely to die than y'all and all y'all. Find Jesus.

If someone was doing a resting EKG on him, why? It’s not time for his exam. They don’t just randomly do that.

A resting EKG is the first thing they do on someone over 50 when they enter emergency. It's not a big deal - unless it says so. It takes a real two minutes.

They probably did an EKG at the WH the minute he complained of chest discomfort then rushed him to the hospital when they saw abnormalities in the EKG.

R283, what a dumb post. I posted some of the stuff about his health because I work in the medical field.

Who are you R287? What exactly did you post previously to show that you worked in the medical field? It's not really a field you know? Regardless my post wasn't dumb. It was as accurate as any other here. Most old white men are just talking about their own experiences, as they do, ad nauseum on Datalounge. And not a single thing I mentioned was out of the ordinary or life and death. Yet they all might require a hospital visit. Old white men are always have regurgitation and chest pressure, rapid heartbeat and fainting spells. Gay ones even more with their hysteria. Kidney stones make old men cry and roll around like a weak woman giving birth with her feet tied. Funny R287. Where in the field are you?

We all know what Melania is praying for.

I used to work as an RN on the Cardiac unit and no, I am not an old white man. I recognize someone with possible diabetes, hypertension and most likely heart disease. Anyone with a brain can, Trump is not the most healthy looking specimen.

Anyone is welcome to check out your posts on this thread to evaluate your "medical" expertise R290. They're pretty laughable. He looks fat and sick!! That's clinical. The closest you got to being a RN was that cute lil white outfit you wear for 60 bucks ($60) of backdoor fun. Y'all should shave your legs next time.

I really don't give a shit what you think, R291.

[quote]Anyone with a brain can, Trump is not the most healthy looking specimen.

Just look at his skin.

Not that orange shit but sometimes you catch him in a pic without it and his skin is a grey coloring. Like death.

He is not well. Mentally or physically.

Sympathy grab

R283 is the poster child for rightwing trolls WWing their own posts. That's the dumbest thing I've read on Datalounge in a while. We have some crazies here (like trolls who post "y'all and all y'all" while trying to be clever) but very few who write in the kind of word salad, self-aggrandizing, delusional sentences Trump is famous for.

So even if you think we're all kaftan-flapping pill poppers who suck up cheeseburgers like they were hot throbbing cocks, you can't possibly think we're all in the same poor mental health as Trump. Probably not in the same poor physical health, either. He's in bad shape.

^ miss warwick^

Angiogram and then had stents placed, guarentee it. Narrowing arteries caused chest discomfort and the stents opened them back up.

[quote]What about his alleged Sudafed snorting habit, could that be a contributing factor to whatever is going on.

Possibly, when I was a teenager I had terrible sinus congestion and practically lived on Actifed, which is basically the same thing as Sudafed. By the time I was 23 I had swelling in the extremities that turned out to be high blood pressure and was told to stop Actifed immediately. Had to go into the clinic every day for a week and my BP went down pretty quickly, and I'm still getting yelled at by my current doctor 25 years later about never taking it ever again.

I cannot imagine taking lots of pseudoephedrine at that age with that diet and that level of stress.

He feels no guilt for his many sins, so he has no stress.

Yikes R283/R288 is uptight! Unclench.

R298 is another weak white man with no understanding of his body or medications. See R295. That ancient fag responds to charges of being an old white man projecting his health issues onto Trump with remarks about caftans and comparing cheeseburgers to dick?!! R295 is at least 75 years old and far more familiar with a burger than a dick. Word salad? That's a cheap label used by basic intellects who threw shade on the internet - 20 years ago. Catch up gramps. Or get some rest. I ain't no right wing troll. Don't add your problems to mine R295.

[quote]R295 is at least 75 years old and far more familiar with a burger than a dick.

I pretty plainly said that you thought we were all elderly kaftan aficionados who were more familiar with cheeseburgers than cock. I mean, you write on a third grade level, it's not like we don't know what you're saying.

Hilariously, you have no idea what the rest of us are saying. You're so confused you repeated what I said, without realizing I'd already said it.

Speaking of high blood pressure, you better simmer your ass down. Even fake stress like what you're putting yourself through just to troll on Datalounge at 3:30AM takes its toll.

The truth hurts even ancient white men from Australia. Affleck's rug is over 70 years old and belongs on some thread about how to make your new kitty love you. Another old white men guessing what's wrong with someone their age and shape based on their own clogged arteries and hysteria. Unclench? None of you CAN clench. I'll bet you've been to the hospital for that too. No wonder gays can't get married in America. Old white fags did their best to kill everyone off.

The third grade level remark - huh? You're that old racist fag miss warwick!! Haven't you got a scat thread to attend to R302? Cuz you're done here.

Yes, troll...everyone here is simply wishing your emperor god was a fat pig one filet o'fish away from a fatal heart attack. He's obviously, really, the picture of health. Trump is definitely NOT a porcine, dementia-addled, elderly, morbidly obese sack of shit who can barely walk onto a stage without breaking out into a sweat.

And ain't and y'all don't make you look folksy and cute or some shit, they just make you look like a moron. Like your hero.

He was not looking that great about a week ago...

He looks like Olivia De Havilland.

Don't you dare.

R303 *sigh* I’m 46, have two non-white parents. I don’t have clogged arteries but thanks for playing. I find the thread hilarious, and Trump looks like shit non stop. You aren’t uptight and do need to unclench, something else I am perfectly capable of doing because I don’t have a prolapsed ring and take great care of my asshole. Enjoy your night, you miserable git.

Is that Diamond or Silk at R283, R288, R291, R301 ad nauseam?

my guess is MRI. Very likely ,he's been plagued by heartburn, and chest discomfort off and on for a couple of weeks and he had a really bad bout of it in the past few days, really agonizing discomfort at times and probably so much anxiety he's afraid to fall asleep. He probably felt sick on Saturday so they thought they could run him to WR for an MRI and one of t hose tests that go down your throat to check his esophagus. THey gave him medication confirmed he was not having a heart attack, and then sent him home.

OTOH, they could have discovered some irregularities. I don't think they gave him a stress test. He'd have needed more time for that. I doubt they'd have put him on a treadmill for one. He would have needed one that they inject to simulate exercise and those take longer. He would have needed at least 4 -6 hours to get his preliminary vitals, hook him up, inject him. Wait 20 minutes then start monitoring him. The they have to feed him water, to get rid of the drug, and continue to observe him. Between that and an MRI, it would take a while.

72 hour psych hold. They just announced he won’t be appearing in public until tomorrow afternoon.

He doesn't have stress because he's never worried or wanted for anything. He was born rich and has been rich his whole life. Women let him grab their pussies and don't report it to police as rape.

His only physical vanity is from the neck up. Tanning bed skin and a swirl of dyed blond hair.

It was revealed last year his arteries have serious plaque issues and that means heart disease. He's overindulged and spoiled himself for years. Now it's time to 'pay the piper'.

Maybe they doped him up because he was stressed out. But this is definitely setting the stage for a "health issue " if that is something they want to explore. His Deplorables will consider him a martyr, a victim of the abuse of the Liberal Press and he can disappear for a few months then have his own TV show. All assuming he makes a deal to resign if all charges are dropped. He can then delude himself into believing that he left "on his own terms" and they did not force him out. LOL!

My guess is he knows things that indicate he doesn't have the level of support in Congress he wants us to believe he has. McConnell is probably getting a lot of pressure and has stopped answering Trump's three or four phone calls every day. The Ukraine situation is bad, but Trump's been doing this bribery/extortion thing regularly for other things too. What pisses me off is that members of Congress knew, his staff knew, his cabinet knew, and they all allowed him to commit impeachable offenses, and shit on his Constitutional oath.

Wonder what Pompeo is up to? Because Mike Pompeo is a fucking Harvard Lawyer. He is not dumb. He's a fool, but not stupid. And he knows very well, as a former member of Congress, exactly what Trump has done and what meets the standard of criminal behavior. He's anAcessory. At the very least he needs to get thrown the fuck out along with Barr.

Mike Pompeo was recruited by the Kochs years and years ago. He wouldn't have gotten this far were he not an amoral, grifting bootlicker.

R309, I have that person blocked from other posts. Dump loving deplorable. Probably has no teeth, hasn’t bathed in a while, smells like shit, is 100 years old. Get off our board!

I see Morning Joe is reporting that Donnie was NOT observed leaving Walter Reed, has not in fact been seen since he walked in on Saturday afternoon, and the only events on his schedule are closed to the press. So I'm leaning away from the sympathy grab/groundwork for resignation or panic attack theories towards either life-threatening health event or psychotic break.

I thought someone in the press pool said they saw him leave Walter Reed with his shirt open and tie off? But no one saw him go into the White House or the residence. No one really knows where he is. I don't know why the news isn't 24/7 "where's the president?" because that seems like something they should be asking.

[quote]But now I'm thinking he's setting the stage for a fake cancer diagnosis so he can fake his death and move to Russia.

He could never keep himself out of sight for the rest of his life, he couldn't handle not being the center of attention.

He also hates sick people, absolutely loathes them, I don't think he's going to pretend to be sick himself. He sees it as weakness. If he's hiding out after a hospital visit he's either trolling like Melania did with her "kidneys" or he's actually sick and can't do much.

Where's Pence? If there's a serious health scare with Trump they'll want Pence close to the WH.

He's probably dead and they're going to go all "Weekend at Bernie's" until RBG croaks and her replacement is named.

Let's hope they are scouring the planet for a 45 body double for substitution, like in the Kevin Kline movie 'Dave', who will go 'renagade' and turn our country back to where it ought to be!

Well he met with Fed Chairman Powell at the WH this am (which Powell confirmed in a statement) so there goes that theory.

for r322

Powell met with the body double. All heads of state have security doubles.

Still waiting for some good news.

Thanks for the buzzkill, r323.

No worries. Everything is fine.

I hope you-know-who you-know-whats.

VOX: In a break from precedent, Trump’s trip to the hospital wasn’t acknowledged ahead of time on any White House schedule. Secondly and similarly unusual, CNN reported that medical staff at Walter Reed weren’t notified of Trump’s visit in advance.

White House pool reporters said they were told Trump’s movements on Saturday “were strictly unreportable” until he arrived at the hospital at 2:47 pm.

my guess is they are laying the groundwork for a defense of "neurological decline" Drumph is stupid and an idiot but he knows what is coming. Even if he manages to somehow steal the 2020 election, he knows eventually he and his spawn will be spat out into the private sector where no pardons can address the state crimes they have committed.

R331, he’s going to Guantanamo as soon as he leaves office.

They just admitted that “quite a lot of blood was taken” on Saturday, but no further illumination.

I so hope our own Nosferatu was waiting to give him some predictions with a side of "blood draws".

Please!

R313 I wondered if he was having a massive Mong out with paranoia and didn’t want to be at WH for a while as he know who he can trust etc.

[quote] They just admitted that “quite a lot of blood was taken” on Saturday,

Source?

CNN and MSNBC are both covering this story and both are saying this unannounced Saturday afternoon visit was highly abnormal. For one thing, as R330 noted, WR was not given a heads-up that Trump was coming.

YOu know when an elderly person develops a UTI (Urinary Tract Infection) they exhibit temporary signs of dementia. They're given a course in antibiotics and within 48 hours the dementia is gone.

R336: Dick Cheney’s former heart guy, who apparently has someone leaking to him from the Whitehouse, told this Brooke Baldwin hours ago. Maybe you’d have more success paying attention if you weren’t trying to watch two different channels simultaneously.

My ex, the sociopath, would go absolutely batshit crazy when his mask was removed.

I hope Trump's heart is racing, I hope his mind is addled with fear and rage and I hope he lashes out to his heart's content. This is going to be an awful week for him on TV and in the press.

CNBC's Eamon Javers:

A White House official tells me this morning’s Fed meeting took place in the White House residence - the president’s personal quarters- not in the West Wing, where the Oval Office is. I am told the president has not yet been in the West Wing today.

(Posted around 11:30 am)

People are saying--now, I'm not saying this is true but people are saying--he might be dying. A very, very, very good reason why the Do Nothing Democrats should put on their cha-cha heels and prepare to dance!

We'll see if he cancels any rallies or golf outings. Those are the true indicators.

A nice big cup of tea is often restorative.

And somehow they are going to sneak Nikki Haley in there.

R343 and where might a person get that tea? Asking for a friend, of course!

LOL, r343

I have to wonder why hehasn't been going to Mar A Lago. It'sthe end of November.

If he was sick, wouldn't Melania at least go to the hospital with him? Maybe it was one of her weekends in NYC?

Florida has shit healthcare. If Trump got sick in Florida, in an emergency, the chances of him having a serious issue and not getting the best treatment are high.....

Yeah Melania may not even be living at the WH. She may be with Barron and her parents inVirginia or NEw JErey or WTF. Because Trump has to be amaniac right about now. And he has probably been a horror to live with for months.

Ruh-roh, he met with Pumpy at 4pm today. Will he take his rage out on him and fire him?

[quote]If he was sick, wouldn't Melania at least go to the hospital with him?

I really wouldn’t care. Would u?

Why would Melanie go with him? No one wants to hear some asshole whine and cry, for hours on end, about how 'rough' he has it. Not if they aren't a therapist and being paid big bucks.

Mel knows what those tax returns would show. She knows she ain't getting paid extra to ride along and listen to his caterwauling, fat ass bitch and moan. She's no dummy, she's usung her time by getting laid by SS dick that's over three inches and isn't attached to a sharting, screaming blob of a human.

R334, Nosferatu or Guiliani? They are hard to distinguish.

Hunny, The shit is raining down on Donald. The courts have been ruling against him. His poll numbers are in the toilet. Republicans are losing elections. Most of the people who are testifying were appointed by him and are defying his orders not to cooperate. And they are hanging him every time they open their mouths.

Rudy is now under criminal investigation and his buddies Igor and Lev have been charged with crimes. The whole Ukrainian caper has been blown wide open. He's being investigated in an Impeachment proceeding. His taxes which will show a lot of falsified information are getting ready to be reviewed by Congress. And behind the scenes McConnell is having a hard time keeping the Senate in line.

Now if he's getting indigestion or high blood pressure, that is to be expected.

If Trump dies, what are the odds his kids spend a couple weeks running a shadow government before Pence's transition team gets its footing?

R354, I despise Pence as much as anyone but I think he knows what he's doing and would be able to take over in an instant without having to wait for a "transition team" to get footing. First thing: change all the locks and order the guards to keep Trump's kids off the premises.

We'll know he's OK if/when he golfs again. Here's the "Trump Golf Count." Last time golfing was 10/26/19, before that, 10/12/19 and 10/13/19 (2 days in a row).

R357 So who do you think Fed chairman Jay Powell met with this morning?

That question is above my pay grade, R358.

Could it have been a kidney stone or bleeding ulcer? Or maybe he fell and got bruised badly and needed a CT scan?

Those WH balconies are tricky.

This can’t be real:

Dr. Conley reported that his latest test showed Mr. Trump’s cholesterol at 165, down from 196 in February. His LDL has fallen to 84, from 122, while his HDL was 70, up from 58.

I saw the news said Trump went to see Conley at Walter Reed, but we see Conley getting into the motorcade with Trump and going TO Walter Reed with him. Are they claiming that wasn't Conley getting into the SUV?

So the president, who has his own fully staffed personal medical suite in the White House, spent two hours at Walter Reed for a cholesterol test?

There are two Donald Trumps.

The witch curse has finally taken effect! Thank you, ladies! Blessed be!

If the WH has a fully equipped mini hospital, the only reason to go to a real hospital is an emergency or a special examination like an CT, MRT, angiography or coloscopy. Every first year nurse can get a blood sample at the WH.

It might have something to do with that photograph of him with toilet tissue stuck to his shoe.

He’s probably badly constipated and has been going to the toilet constantly straining to relieve himself. They’ve probably had to take him to the hospital so they could stick a camera up his asshole and try to find out what’s causing the problem.

I suspect this is yet another easy and cheap mechanism to distract people/media from investigations.

Trump's handlers simply toss out leads that beg to be followed-up. Since the number of reporters/journalists is finite, diverting focus from exposing the truly bad stuff is exactly what Trumpers want.

R369, have you read any of the posts previous to your own in this thread? You seem to be relying upon a thoroughly incorrect ‘gut instinct’ rather than thinking anything through in depth or gathering information on the subject, at hand.

R369, I agree about the distractions, but disagree in this instance only because Trump doesn't like to be perceived as being weak.

I agree with r371. Dump would never distract from the news with something like this. His ego is too great.

Why won't this fucker die???* He's 73 years old and eats like a pig.

*from natural causes of course

Still sticking with story of "routine physical." Cholesterol is 165. Denies chest pain.

[quote] Trump brought up the hospital visit on Tuesday while meeting with his Cabinet. He complained that when he returned from Walter Reed, the first lady asked him “Darling, are you OK? What’s wrong?” He said false reports about a health problem caused her to worry.

This part sounds like BS.

AP story posted below.

AIDS?

Wouldn't she have known that he planned to go in for tests if they lived together? It's not something a wife would be surprised byl unless...

Yeah, the "you unscrupulous journalists made my whorewife worry!" story is transparently bogus.

I'm sure he talks to [rants at] her all day [and night] long, R376. He probably walks with [waddles after] her, telling [screaming and spitting] her about his day. She patiently listens to [ignores] him until she has to attend to her other duties [locks herself in her own bedroom, masturbate to photos of men with visual abdominal muscles and penis sizes found on adult males, then cries herself to sleep]. I'm sure keeping track of 45's busy daily schedule [all that golfing plus all of his indictments], Barron's activites [medication time, Darling!] and sundry [she's not religious but is praying he dies, soon], it would be easy to forget a thing or two!

Donald in hospital? Dees sooprise me. No can be heart attacking. Havink no heart. Also, I only get pay off for nachurel causes

He sounded really hoarse during his afternoon lie session today. I think he was vented.

I hope his heart gives out on him as he’s trying to dump out and I hope someone gets a picture of it and tweets it far and wide.

R389, why do they vent someone?

What we know is his shirt collar was loose when he went to the hospital (couldn’t breathe?). Then later he’s hoarse (vented because he couldn’t breathe?).

What does that mean? They don’t vent people for the hell of it. Did his heart stop?

R380, not R389 ^^

They'll never release his current weight.

I may be wrong, r382 (I’m no doctor) but I think people are vented for many procedures. I think any time they’re given anesthesia. is there a doctor in the house?

R385, I’m not a doctor either, but I think they normally just put people on oxygen with a mask.

Venting is more invasive. My dad had that, and they kept him knocked out the whole time, because people get claustrophobic and try to rip it out, and they can injure themselves.

You only need to vent when you use curare because it prevents breathing. And you only use curare when you need to cut through muscles (otherwise they'll have spasms). I think they also use curare for ECTs so that your body doesn't convulse.

Trump has, for a long time, presented with symptoms of final-stage syphillus. Considering his lifelong pursuit of STDs, we can only hope that maybe his goal of dying of VD is within his grasp.

Did we see him standing at all in his appearance today or was he seated behind a table the whole time? Hmmm

You mean like FDR, R389?

He has preferred standing and yelling in front of helicopters For press statements lately so just wondering if there is something we aren’t supposed to see?

I really don't think they vented him in such a short period of time. My guess is Trump is having GI issues exacerbated by stress and poor diet. Maybe even gall stones or an ulcer. They may have stuck one of those tubes down his throat to do some kind of test on his esophagus, or maybe they gave him the EKG at home but since he was complaining of pain took him to hospital for MRI, etc. I'm thinking gall bladder attack. Sometimes the pain is so bad they say it feels like a heart attack.

Oh really R392? You sound like an expert. Nutjob.

I’ve had gall bladder attacks, R392. You do think at first it could be a heart attack. I got really severe pain In back, between my shoulder blades, which is common.

However, it’s pretty easy to diagnose. I diagnosed it myself after about five minutes on the internet. Heart attack pain is actually different.

I ended up having my gall bladder removed after passing a few stones. I was definitely able to walk around and do a lot of stuff after a couple of days, although I was sore if I bent over. It’s laparoscopic surgery and a very small incision, which helps. I still was able to get around okay until the day before being hospitalized for the surgery. And I had pancreatitis which makes it much worse. But I was vomiting uncontrollably on the way to the hospital. You can’t hide that. Even if you don’t do that, there’s incredible pain. You can’t hold still, much less walk calmly in the middle of an attack. You have to wait until it’s over. Which is only an hour or two if memory serves.

I really don’t think he had that. You get over it so quickly. You might not want to run all over, but you could definitely make a show in front of a helicopter. You can walk around. I cleaned the house the day after my surgery.

My father had COPD. He was tethered to oxygen 24/7 and in the final 8 months of his life he was hospitalized and they had to vent him several times. It is very hard on the body to vent someone and very hard to get them off of it. Finally, they put a trachea tube in his throat and hooked him up to the vent that way. When he was stronger, they could easily unsnap the vent from the trach tube. He'd cap the trach tube so he could talk, but eventually he stopped talking. two months later he was gone. If Trump was in the hospital for about two hours there wasn't enough time to put him on a ventilator. If his problem was respiratory, maybe there are other things they could have done.

But I believe it was GI related. Just my INFORMED speculation. I'm not an expert. Just going by what my dad and my older brother went through. My Bro had a gall bladder attack at 53 and thought he was having a heart attack. Sometimes with gall bladder there's vomiting and the bile and crap you throw up, dry heaves, etc. can make you hoarse. Will say my brother, who had his own business, ( he was a contractor who did home renovations,) had terrible eating habits. He'd eat hot dogs from the cart at Home Depot. He was always grabbing MacDonald's and sodas on the job. He might go a whole day on three bags of potato chip and orange soda. Did it for years. Come home dead tired, get up at 5 AM and start all over again.

I once went to the hospital with my dad and a guy across the aisle was passing a kidney stone. You could tell immediately what was going on because he was vomiting and writhing in agony. It looks terrible, but once you’ve passed it, you’re better really quickly. Kidney stones are even more painful than gall stones.

If it was a gall stone, I think they might tell us, because it’s no big deal and recovery is so fast. Trump would be going around bragging about how he was recovering quickly because he is the Strongest Man Ever.

I tend to think it’s something more frightening.

The amount of optics, deception and cover-up involved with this is staggering. There was less planning on D-day.

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R398 Melanie prays to God every night to take him, PLEASE.

I can buy the gall bladder attack, it’s supposed to be SUPER painful, so Cool I hope he felt like he was going to die. If it was gallbladder you usually do have to get it out wonder when they would fit that in?

[quote] I tend to think it’s something more frightening.

Or encouraging, depending on one's point of view.

He looked like shit yesterday.

Dump's gall bladder was removed decades ago -- so you can ignore any fabrication posted in this thread that includes the word "gall".

Trump was hoarse back on the 15th too, when he was talking about the tax cuts. But surely they wouldn't take him to Walter Reed for a cold or an infection? That could be dealt with in the White House.

Guess it could be Ortners Syndrome, hoarseness post cardiac event.

The plot thickens--not only did Trump's doctor accompany him to Texas and stay at his side the whole time, Trump used the rear belly steps to enter and exit Air Force One.

Look how gingerly he's going down those steps, that looks like a man who just got a stent or two inserted through his groin.

Eh, he looks like any 73 year old walking down the steps (and believe me, I wish the opposite). Yes, it’s strange he used the rear, but maybe the front was malfunctioning. I wish something more would leak about this—geez, his administration leaks like a sieve, but not much has leaked about his hospital visit.

From 2014...

[quote]The way President Obama runs down the stairs of Air Force 1, hopping & bobbing all the way, is so inelegant and unpresidential. Do not fall!

I WANT NOTHING

I WANT NOTHING

I WANT NO FALL.

TELL STEEP, WOBBLY, SCARY STAIRS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

THIS IS THE FINAL WORD FROM THE PRES OF THE U.S.

Look. He had a colonoscopy, OK.It was an emergency. Devin Nunes' head was stuck so far up Trump's ass it caused a major blockage. He was competing for space with Lindsey Graham.

After his meltdown/confession/tirade on F&F this morning, I think his people (Ivanka etc) *told* him he was going to the hospital for part of his physical and really it was a psych hold. He seems to be in and out of lucidity, mostly out of it, at this point and anyone who has had to deal with an older relative with dementia co-occurring with chronic mental illness will recall the situation getting bad enough that sometimes tricking the person into doing something for their own well-being becomes the only solution short of calling paramedics or getting a senior services case worker involved. He was probably furious while he was locked up under observation, but has retreated back to the lie that he had a physical now that he's back in his own space, like a cat.

I'm surprised he hasn't tweeted about his doctor out of peevishness for taking him to the hospital and making him look weak.

Agree with R405. There were rumors of chest discomfort, then no one saw him going back into the WH...they probably used a disguised vehicle like a utility truck because he had to be wheeled into the WH on a gurney. The next day he received visitors in his own quarters, not the Oval Office as he was probably on bedrest that day.

Some people said he didn't go to the hospital for chest pain because he was walking into the vehicle. He could have refused to go to the hospital if they put him on a guerney with oxygen so they let him walk to make appearance he was okay

Let's not forget that the man doesn't sleep.

Sooner or later he's going to go full psychotic.

Humans can't function in a healthy manner without sleep.

Shouldn't be a surprise R410. Trump's handlers tried to distract people/media from investigations. Their plan simply failed to get traction.

He doesn't sleep? Is that inferred from his Twitter raging? I'm not doubting, I just wonder if that's something he acknowledges. If so, he's sleep deprived on top of everything? We're sunk.

r414, I don't have a link, but recall Trump bragging about only needing (or getting?) maybe 4 hours of sleep a night.

Thanks, R415. Of course he considers it a point of pride to be unable to go to sleep, where people don't gratify him with attention and fear in their dead eyes.

[quote]“He’s in the no more than four hours a night range,” his biographer Gwenda Blair said. “He has made a big deal of saying he never sleeps and people who sleep are lazy.”

Of course.

Oh really, other people are lazy? What a fucking lunatic. I don't even believe that he doesn't sleep. Anything he brags about is a hallucination.

Insomnia is associated with diagnosed dementias. Persistent and severe lack of sleep prevents the nightly 'wash cycle' that washes toxins from the brain.

Is he dead yet?

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Could the two be related?

Are there any vaccinations or last minute health checks he would have needed before going to Afghanistan? I doubt if the White House infirmary would be stocked with things like that.

Looking remarkably fresh-faced and rested! Long flights obviously agree with him.

^ 😂 Trump looks weathered and haggard.

Here's another. I can't even figure out what's going on here. At first I thought he looked freaky (well, freakier than usual) because the gigantic hat was casting a shadow on his eyes, then i thought it was because he was a lighter shade of terracotta, but now I don't know. It's all very strange.

Why in the world did the soldiers in Afghanistan and like trump was a good guy? Are they all ducking stupid. Leave it to him and they could all be at risk. Why are they ignorant?

R426, the modern volunteer armed forces don't attract people who could get a good job. And most of the members who are sent to places like Afghanistan are not West Point grads.

🎶And though his face at first just orange, turned a lighter shade of terracotta! 🎶

R423's pic has a very "Weekend at Bernie's" vibe. In a good way!

It's clear his hat is not over his head but sitting on it. Did he get implants?

Read a thread on Twitter where the theory is it was gout. Somebody enlarged a photo of his hands and his thumbs were swollen. Gout would be kinda funny, although if it were in his foot or toes, he couldn't walk. It's unbelievably painful, and when I had it, there were no drugs for it. (I was in my 20s and drinking heavily.)

R425, my dad had congestive heart failure and his mouth was always open like that. It means the person is not taking in enough oxygen. At night when he slept, it was open even more.

Trump’s mouth is open at the top of the stairs. If he’s disembarking, he hasn’t gone downstairs yet and he’s already short on oxygen. That’s not good. Anything under 90% oxygen intake at the hospital, and they put you on oxygen.

FYI, if you have any surgery, including minor surgery, you have to go through a cardio test to make sure your heart can take it. Usually you have to take that test, or re-take it, every six months or a year, I forget. So if he wanted some surgery that required anesthesia, and his test results aren’t good enough, they’re not just going to automatically do it, unless it’s emergency or urgently needed.

[quote] Trump’s mouth is open at the top of the stairs. If he’s disembarking, he hasn’t gone downstairs yet and he’s already short on oxygen. That’s not good. Anything under 90% oxygen intake at the hospital, and they put you on oxygen.

Sounds good to me, R32. Encouraging, at least.

^^ Quoting and replying to R432, not 32.

R432 My 90 yr old mother has CHF. She used to be like you described but her cardio docs did some "procedures." Now she's fit as a fiddle. Doesn't gasp for breath. (Of course, she's losing her mind and her hips don't work. ) I thought there was no cure for CHF, but my mother had something that approximates a fix. If she did, I'm sure Trump would too.

R435, Trump strikes me as one of those people (usually men in my experience) with an irrational fear of hospitals/doctors/medical procedures. As if it were voodoo or witchdoctor mojo. He considers himself so superior to mere mortals that he won't submit to ministrations that he doesn't understand and refuses to study. If he were unconscious, his wife (or other designated next of kin) could authorize doctors to do what's necessary to save his life, but he's not about to seriously consider even minor surgery if it's up to him.

Well said, R436. I can't imagine he would submit or defer to anyone he'd have to admit knows more than he does. Can you imagine him thinking another person can answer the question, "So what's wrong with me?"

"I know more than the doctors!"

"I'm actually, I know a lot about medicine. I know a lot about a lot of things, OK. My doctor always tells me, 'Wow, you could be a doctor right now, you know so much.'"

R435, sounds like your mother had some specific condition that was easily fixed. Generally, there is no cure and people slowly die from congestive heart failure. They drown. Their lungs fill with fluid because their heart isn’t strong enough to clear it.

It’s possible your mother had a pacemaker or something. My dad had one, but died with it. People think having a pacemaker means their troubles are over. It helps some people quite a bit, but if organ failure in other organs has already started from the weak heart, the other organs are already damaged. My dad ended up having total organ failure, with a pacemaker. Everything just quit all at once.

Damn, r440. I hope he wasn't in pain.

My mom had COPD and was on oxygen the last year of her life. She kept getting worse and would gasp for air even with the oxygen. It was horrible to watch and not be able to help her.

My brother quit smoking after watching her. She had smoked her entire life.

Tiny hands still hasn’t completed that physical.

It’s been more than six months since President Donald Trump claimed to have started his annual physical at Walter Reed hospital but the White House is declining to explain why he has yet to complete the yearly doctor’s examination.

Senior administration officials did not immediately respond to NBC News’ request for comment about the delay — despite Trump announcing this week he was taking an unproven and potentially dangerous drug after being exposed to an aide who tested positive for coronavirus.

Asked in early March about when he would complete his physical, the president told reporters, “I’m going probably over the next 90 days. I’m so busy, I can’t do it.”

Because it wasn't a physical.

It was the end of a full course of antibiotics for tertiary syphilis.

Thoughts and prayers for him to gag and die. Amen.

Gee, I hope it wasn't anything minor!

He hasn't completed the physical. The concern is that real doctors might get a hold of him and diagnose his frontotemporal dementia. It's why he stands like this.

He does stand like a moron. Is that a symptom of frontotemporal dementia? It’s been bugging me lately.

People with frontotemporial dementia have a tendency to stand like this.

Interesting, thanks, I was trying to look it up to no success.

I can add it to the list of his very many mannerisms that I despise.

Add the lifts and the adult diaper and you wonder how this person remains upright.

I was thinking recently that there was something weird with how he de-planes, and stands, and I thought it was because he’s always alone. He is very rarely with someone else. But then he stands like this, yes.

This guy thinks it’s his lift-shoes.

May I just say, a man who wears makeup, and so very badly, is evidencing a hint that he probably shouldn’t be hired for any position of responsibility, especially not President, without very careful vetting. Sloppy vanity, and the sloppiness is important here, just screams “HR nightmare”.

There are a million things wrong with Trump. A million such “tells”. Lift-shoes and sloppy makeup are just one of them.

He may have been receiving corona plasma

The leaning forward just might be his way of hiding the most telltale sign of his morbid obesity: his huge protruding fat belly. Fooling no one, as usual.

I am a man who doesn't have an irrational fear of doctors. It's because I know the truth - that 30 to 40 percent of the time they just make shit up. I had a few M.D.s tell me this. So I take what they say with a grain of salt.

Lifts in your shoes do not make you lean forward. Your back easily makes that correction.

No one would be able to wear Jimmy Choos or Louboutins which are much, much, higher than any lifts could ever be.