Only 18 female singers have grossed over $100 million in a single tour

A lot of those women who didn't gross $100 mil didn't tour NON STOP like those mentioned.

Should not be a concern of ANYONE.

Madonna did it with 5 different tours and with very little shows per tour

Whitney and Mariah are surprising. But Janet's not that big outside the US.

Helene Fischer?!

Janet was massive world over in the late 80s. It's true that she didn't maintain it but there was a solid few years of global mega stardom there.

[quote]A lot of those women who didn't gross $100 mil didn't tour NON STOP like those mentioned.

This is for a SINGLE tour, so it doesn't matter how many times they toured.

The fact that Madonna did it 5 times, and Whitney and Mariah couldn't even do it once, says a lot. It's one thing to be local and another thing to be a global superstar.

[quote]Janet was massive world over in the late 80s. It's true that she didn't maintain it but there was a solid few years of global mega stardom there.

Yeah, but so was Belinda Carlisle. And Cyndi Lauper in the mid eighties.

Whitney must've come close. Her exclusion is shocking, Mariah's somewhat less so but still. Of course, Whitney had a lot of other problems that must've had some effect on things.

Belinda Carlisle was quite a bit bigger than Janet in Europe in the late eighties.

[quote]It's one thing to be local and another thing to be a global superstar.

Local is the USA, which is the biggest recording market in the world.

"Global superstars" shouldn't be struggling to fill 200 seat theaters.

I'm shocked that Linda Ronstadt didn't make it. I thought she was a bigger touring force. Same with Reba McEntire. Reba has been doing arena tours non-stop for decades.

The one I'm most surprised about is Pat Benatar. She was HUGE in the 80s and 90s.

It’s easier to make than kind of money if you have an international fan base. Janet, Reba, and Linda Ronstadt were never that big outside the US.

The fact that current artists mostly make up this list says a lot. Ticket prices became much more expensive over the last fifteen years. Add to that artists getting a cut of merchandising, and other back end deals and there you go.

Streisand? If she's done 150 shows in the US her entire career, then that's a lot. Her recent shows had ticket prices going for up to 8,000 dollars EACH. This list should be taken with a grain of salt.

Was Britney Spears bigger than Christina Aguillera?

[quote]The fact that current artists mostly make up this list says a lot. Ticket prices became much more expensive over the last fifteen years. Add to that artists getting a cut of merchandising, and other back end deals and there you go.

Barbra, Madonna, Cher and Tina will be glad to hear that you consider them current artists.

The $100 million+ gross does not include money made from merchandising, just ticket sales.

[quote] Was Britney Spears bigger than Christina Aguillera?

Of course.

Or do you mean in Europe? Yes, in fact the difference was probably greater.

$100 million in 2019 is not the same as $100 million in the 80's / 90's

Janet was no bigger than Pat Benatar, Kim Wilde, Paula Abdul, Debbie Gibson, and Tiffany in Europe in the late eighties.

What part of mostly didn't you get R17?

Tina and Cher are impressive because they didn't jack up their ticket prices. It was pure demand and that put them over the top.

Are the lists adjusted for inflation?

Only a fool would pay over 100 dollars to see ANY of those people...and those are the cheap seats....you have to remember OP, in the 70s, 80s and even part of the 90s, tickets for a concert were well UNDER 20 dollars...and that was for premium tickets. The only reasons for the high prices is greed, and the fact most need over produced spectacles to mask their lack of real talent.

Diana Ross was not a huge artist and she never made much money from concert tours.

Janet was never that popular outside of North America. This is probably due to the fact that R&B artists (I know Janet started out as pop but she was tied to New Jack Swing at the beginning of her career) weren't really popular outside the US until the late 90s. Now, you have artists like Beyoncé selling in lots of global countries but the path for people like her was paved by Janet's success.

R13 how was Penetar huge in the 80s and 90s?

She stopped having big (top 10) hits in 1985 and barely charted at all in the 90s

But she was big from 80-85

R25 Beyonce doesn't sell albums ,her Lion King soundtrack was a massive flop everywhere

Michael and Whitney were R&B pop acts that were HUGE internationally, so Janet has no excuse

Madonna sold 3.5 million tickets and averaged between $4-$5 million per show (!) For her 2008-2009 85 date Sticky and Sweet Tour Ridiculous numbers

I think that tour sold the most tickets of any female tour ever and with very little (85) dates!

She was playing mostly stadiums

R27, Whitney was not an R&B star really until My Love is Your Love. Sure, there was I'm Your Baby Tonight but it was considered a disappointment and it didn't sell very much. She and Michael were sold as pop stars. Unlike Janet, who was tied to New Jack Swing more than either of those two. Beyoncé has a ton of popularity in other countries.

R27, Whitney was not huge internationally, which is why she didn't make money from touring. She was local. Tina Turner and Madonna, on the other hand, were massive internationally and sold out stadiums all over the globe. Whitney didn't have that kind of power.

Whitney was HUGE internationally even if she wasn't a big touring act. The Bodyguard soundtrack is still the biggest selling album by a female artist in global music, ever. It was the album that put her on the same level as Michael Jackson and Madonna, at least temporarily.

Whitney was definitely big over here.

Stop making stuff up, R30.

R30 you're joking right?

The Bodyguard Soundtrack, a Whitney album basically, is the 4th biggest selling album in HISTORY worldwide, Whitney is also the 4th biggest selling female artist of all time worldwide after Madonna (#1), Celine (#2) and Mariah (#3)

Whitney has sold over 250 million records worldwide, Tina Turner just over 100 million including her Ike and Tina sales...

[quote]Houston's single was also an international success, peaking at number one of the singles charts in almost all countries, including the Eurochart Hot 100 Singles, where it spent 13 weeks at the top. The single ruled the summit position for ten weeks in Australia,[51] five weeks in Austria,[52] seven weeks for Belgium,[53] eight weeks in France,[54] six weeks in Germany,[55] eight weeks in Ireland,[56] two weeks in Italy,[57] six weeks in Netherlands,[58] 14 weeks in New Zealand,[59] nine weeks in Norway,[60] one week in Spain, six weeks in Sweden,[61] eight weeks in Switzerland,[62] and ten weeks in the United Kingdom.[63] Houston's 10-week reign in the UK set the record for the longest run at the top by a solo female artist in the history of the British singles chart.[64][65][66] It is the only single to have topped the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australian singles charts for at least ten weeks

Mary Wilson has joined us at R24.

Who do you (and the person who thinks Whitney wasn't big in Europe) kidding?

Why would Cyndi Lauper be on the list? She had ONE big album from 83-84 and one relatively successful album from 86-87

And that was it in terms of commercial success, even by the end of the 80s, she was considered washed up

She was a one album wonder in terms of the general public

You can't be considered a big global star if you can't sell concert tickets.

Whitney, Aretha and Dionne were all very jealous and resentful of Tina Turner.

Aside from her (commercially successful if ultimately sad) 2010 tour, Whitney's last tour was in 2004 in Europe and Russia. It was a joint tour with Dionne Warwick and Natalie Cole.

We wondered why on a thread about her a few months she chose not to tour alone. She absolutely was big enough to... Odd. But then again, addicts can be strange.

I assume she might've toured more internationally if she didn't have to worry about the problems of getting her fix (new cities, customs), which can be a hassle.

Do these figures account for inflation? Judy Garland was singing AGES ago.

Wikipedia says The Bodyguard World Tour DID gross $100 million!

Which sounds right. Hard to believe it didn't.

R37 solo female artists didn't have big tours until the mid to late 80s

People forget how overwhelmingly male dominated the music industry was in the pre Madonna era

Tina Turner's 1986 tour was the first tour ever by a female to sell out stadiums, Madonna followed that with her 1987 tour, Madonna's first worldwide tour

Female artists were looked at as "niche" acts and pawns to male producers

It wasn't until 1985 that a woman, Madonna, was named Billboard's top selling artist of the year, no other woman achieved that feat prior going back to 1955, when Billboard debuted

R41 no it's "adjusted for inflation"

Tina Turner's 95-97 tour was the first tour by a female to gross over $100 million at the box office, followed by Cher's 1999-2000 tour

Madonna could have achieved that with her 1993 Girlie Show Tour, which made $70 million with only a dinky 39 dates but she didn't want to continue the tour

Janet just doesn't have Madonna, Whitney, Tina's catalogue.

Linda Ronstadt was actually the first female solo pop/rock artist to pack arenas in the states. Her mid - late 70's tours were always huge moneymakers and she sold out multiple nights at places like the Spectrum in Philadelphia, the Forum in LA and Forrest Hills tennis stadium in NY.. Her Simple Dreams tour in 77 broke records when she sold out fourteen shows at the Universal Amphitheatre, an unheard of feat at that time for a female artist.

R45 yes she packed ARENAS, I specifically said STADIUM Tina was the first to do a solo STADIUM tour, and sellout, in 1986 followed by Madonna in 1987

My point was that Linda was the first female in pop/rock to play places that were being played by acts like Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, and Wings. No it wasn't stadiums, but she broke major ground at the time by filling arenas. Tina was the first to pack stadiums.

Concessions though, must also be made to Stevie Nicks and Chris McVie, who as a part of Fleetwood Mac, packed stadiums when they went out on the Rumours tour.

Why is anyone surprised that Whitney and Mariah are not on this list? Neither toured very much (or as much as they could have) and there were definitely not enough people wanting to stand around and watch them sing, when there were other options, for them to grab those kinds of numbers.

It's surprising Whitney wasn't on this list because her Bodyguard tour was huge.

I don't think Vadge can pull in that kind of money these days? Or can she? DL says her concerts are half empty....

^she was able to pull those numbers on her last tour three years ago, which in itself is impressive. And "DL" saying her shows are half empty are mostly the false rantings of a deranged person who fills threads up talking to itself. So there's that.

But she's currently not going to make that kind of money on this tour. She's probably got one more big tour in her, a Greatest Hits, AARP Farewell tour.

I think she'd do well if she did a tour in which just sang all her greatest hits with no BS. But I don't know how many bridges she's burned by turning up late, insulting her audience, ridiculous demands, etc.

Everything considered she's probably still the biggest female star.

She's always turned up late and her hardcore, devoted, fans always turn a blind's eye. She's done this every tour for the past two decades and people just forget. Everyone's attention spans these days are 5 minutes long.

Her concerts are now starting at midnight, during the week. Her fan base are older and don’t want to be up all night to be insulted by her. This “tour” of hers is a disgrace and hopefully the end of her.

Can you separate people from their phones these days without them turning on you? I don't know.

I don't mind actually. But I don't want to hear anything from her latest albums. Bitch, just do Papa Don't Preach, Material Girl, Angel and all the others.

Looks like the Bodyguard Tour might not have done that well because they were primarily small venues, although Wiki lists it as having grossed 100M. So who knows where those numbers are from.

Why were they small venues? Whitney was huge and at her peak then.

R57 supposedly Whitney wanted it that way.

And while the Bodyguard was a huge success that doesn't mean it was going to translate well into ticket sales. The Bodyguard soundtrack was mostly a huge hit because of one song. You also probably have to factor in what the economy was like at the time. Wasn't that during a recession?

More than one song. I Have Nothing, Run to You, Queen of the Night, I'm Every Woman and her catalogue. She had plenty of hits to play.

Whitney was one of the first big black artists to play in post-boycott South Africa around that time on that tour, which was a minor deal.

Linda Ronstadt actually played there during the boycott (and came up with some BS excuse).

R59, no one said there weren't other hits on that album, but the album was MOSTLY a hit due to ONE song.

Barbra’s tours have always been short with very high priced tickets. She has had little over 100 concerts in total.

R51 yes supposedly she's gonna do a Greatest Hits tour in 2020 and go to tons of countries and play arenas and stadiums again

[quote] Whitney and Mariah are surprising. But Janet's not that big outside the US.

The benchmark is skewed. When Janet was touring 20 years ago she wasn't charging an average of $200 a seat. Tina Turner is the outlier. She got more butts in seats than most of the others on the list.

Box office is not the correct measure. Madonna, Streisand and Cher charged ridiculous ticket prices. The number I'd want to know is how many people saw the show.

Whitney did 10 tours and had 596 shows in total

Prior to her current tour, Madonna also did 10 tours, 1 US only, 9 international and played a total of 592 shows in total,

Whitney, unadjusted for inflatiion grossed about $200 million combined

Madonna, unadjusted for inflation, grossed 1.4 BILLION combined....

Make whatever excuses you have to, but Hologram Whitney is probably going to outperform real-life Janet despite her only 'one hit'.

I desperately want Real Life Dionne Warwick to open for Hologram Whitney.

[quote]When Janet was touring 20 years ago she wasn't charging an average of $200 a seat

Because she can't... and never could.

[quote]Make whatever excuses you have to, but Hologram Whitney is probably going to outperform real-life Janet despite her only 'one hit'.

I'm pretty sure no one was arguing that Whitney's Corpse performing, "All at Once," wouldn't outperform Janet doing anything.

Well, it's nice for Madonna that she has made that much money on her tours in the past, because from what I hear about the furious reaction to her ridiculous lateness in her current tour, those days are OVER as of this writing.

Do the math:

[quote]After the tour started, mid-year it was announced that the tour has grossed US$44.9 million ($59.56 million in 2018 dollars[1]), from the selling of 258,000 tickets at an average price of $174.17. Her average gross per show was US$6.414 million ($8.51 million in 2018 dollars[1]) with still more than half the dates being left.[31]

[quote]Before the show was over, Billboard magazine projected total sales of $120 million ($159.18 million in 2018 dollars[1]) for Re-Invention.[32] This was confirmed by People magazine who said that the tour grossed around $120 million from all the shows, thus making it the highest-grossing tour of 2004.[33]

[quote]Remarkably, for the weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 chart ending March 13 and March 20, Houston had three songs inside the top 11, making her the first artist to achieve the trifecta on the same week since 1991, when the Hot 100 using Broadcast Data System and SoundScan data.[14][15] On the Hot 100 Airplay chart, Houston equaled the feat with the aforementioned tracks on the February 27 and March 6 issues.

From Wikipedia on I Have Nothing and I'm Every Woman.

They were big too. Not just I Will Always Love You.

At least Hologram Whitney doesn't leave you waiting till midnight.

R64 Tina did 8 tours since 1984, 1,200 (!) shows in total and sold about 14 million tickets in total

Madonna did 10 tours since 1985, 592 shows in total and sold about... 14 million tickets in total

Same as Tina with less than half her shows

Again, no one said there werent other hits on the Bodyguard Soundtrack...

How many of them paid tax on those earnings though? Dumb hussies. I should hook them with account Damon.

[quote]At least Hologram Whitney doesn't leave you waiting till midnight.

Depends on if she has her bath before or after the show.

Is anyone else shocked that Kylie Minogue is not on the list? Wasn't she huge internationally?

Summoning the Miss Warwick Troll...

[quote]Wasn't she huge internationally?

Define Internationally.

[quote]Why would Cyndi Lauper be on the list? She had ONE big album from 83-84 and one relatively successful album from 86-87

Well, Shania Twain was able to do it with only one successful album. Cyndi was heralded as the next Madonna and was a cultural phenomenon all over the world during her peak. She was an amazing live performer and singer back then, too. She should have been a big touring act.

I'm frankly surprised that Adele could make the list when Whitney and Mariah didn't.

I also don't know how Ariana made the list considering TMobile kept trying to give her tickets away.

R81 Cyndi peaked BEFORE Madonna really broke out, so she was not heralded as the "next Madonna", by the time Madonna broke out, Christmas 1984 with the Like a Virgin album, Cyndi had already peaked with her first album and would only have 4 more top 10 hits in her career and sell only about 5 million albums in the US since then

Madonna completely stole her thunder and went from strength to strength as the 80s progressed, True Blue sold even more than LAV and entered the Guinness Book of Records etc.

No other female act had a chance...

R81 and Shania has THREE massive huge selling albums , not one, all three are Diamond certified, for selling over 10 million a piece in the US and one multi platinum greatest hits album

Lauper had the 6 million in the US selling debut from 1983 and the 2 million selling follow up in 1986 and one GOLD (500,000 sold) selling album in 1989 and that was it for her mainstream chart career

Paula Abdul sold more records that Lauper

Stevie Nicks typically does short tours in medium sized summer venues. Her last tour she sold out arenas, which was awesome, but not typical for her. I wouldn’t expect her to ever come close to 100 m, although perhaps with ticket prices now maybe Fleetwood Mac does.

Nobody cares.

Why are people ALWAYS LYING?! Janet was huge all over the world.

In 1998 she was bigger than ever, and her Velvet Rope album was selling like hot cakes All over the world and she was selling out tours.

Britney was always bigger than Christina. Is that a real question?

One sold over 130 million albums while the other sold over 50 million.

Yes, Janet was HUGE as her tour numbers show!

R87 numbers don't lie and her peak, in terms of album sales was the Janet album/era of 93-94. 8 million US, 15 million sold worldwide

TVR sold only 4 million US, 10 million worldwide

When did J-Lo ever tour, let along make $100 million doing it????

R90 I know she toured earlier this year. She was in Barclays for 2 or 3 nights and it was sold out all 2 or 3 nights.

This fact means that no one may criticize me, no matter how late I am to perform. I am the QUEEN. You are forbidden from criticizing the QUEEN.

R92 fuck off queenie.

Who the fuck is Helene Fischer?

Despite all the hate she gets, you have to admire what Madonna has been able to achieve on the concert stage. I don't know if her concert achievements will ever be equaled. She truly was a force of nature.

Did someone say Whitney was local? WTF??? I hate you old bitter queens. The European wing of Whitney’s My Love is Your Love tour was completely sold out. They had to add extra dates. It made it the highest grossing tour of 1999. Ticket prices weren’t as expensive in the 80s and 90s. I’m sure she would have made it on the list if she was healthy in the 2000s.

r29 Whitney became R&B with Waiting to Exhale and The Preacher’s Wife.

Yeah, Janet has been huge all over the world. I think she got up to 200 lbs when she lived in Dubai.

These figures must be wrong. Maybe because Miss Jackson's always accepted Baja Fresh gift cards as a form of credit with her ticket sales?

This kind of money is reserved for people who can sell out huge arenas and stadiums.

I wonder how many male artists have been able to do it

OP’s figures are solely based on International figures, without inflation.

For instance in 1994 Streisand and Reba were the only two females on the US list and in 1995 Reba was the only female. Until lip syncing became permissible a lot of these “performers” didn’t perform as much in the US because of fear of scrutiny.

Top concerts of '94

Pollstar magazine's list of the 10 most lucrative concert tours in 1994:

Rolling Stones - $121.2 million.

Pink Floyd - $103.5 million.

Eagles - $79.4 million.

Barbra Streisand - $58.9 million.

Grateful Dead - $52.4 million.

Elton John and Billy Joel - $47.7 million.

Aerosmith - $26.9 million.

"Lollapalooza" tour - $26.7 million.

Phil Collins - $26 million.

Reba McEntire - $24.3 million.

I don't know if this has anything to do with her not being on this list, but I saw Whitney Houston in concert and it was boring. She was boring. I can't really explain it since I love a lot of her music. It was just a terrible concert.

And, she may be the only black woman in the world that has negative rhythm. The woman couldn't move. She reminded me of leather queens on the dance floor clunking and stomping away.

Yes, R101. A lot of people have said that over the years. In Living Color and Mad TV even joked about it.

The lesbian rumors, recently confirmed, seem to be explain it though.

Who cares? You can't compare because a dollar isn't what it once was. And there really is no accurate way to account for inflation.

It's like comparing chart positions, it's irrelevant, because a #1 song could be much lower than the next #1 song. Something has to be #1, so the chart positions aren't comparable.

Look at Wham!, the first western band to tour China. Yeah there are a billion and a half Chinese, that's going to really inflate their numbers but it's not comparable.

R96, Tina Turner, Madonna and Streisand all managed to do before Whitney's My Love is Your Love tour, so you're just making excuses for Whitney's inability to be a superstar concert attraction. She could sell records in her prime, but she was never a touring force.

If so, that was by choice. She absolutely could've grossed 100 million on tour in the early-mid nineties.

Whitney and Mariah were and are not so great in concert because both had/have trouble sustaining a show. As for Judy Garland- well she last toured sometime in the 60s when top dollar for a ticket was probably $15 or so....

My first concert was a Whitney Concert. Despite what a previous poster said, she was incredible.

No, she can’t dance but her voice and what she could do with it were mind blowing. She was so much more adventurous live than on records. She was the real thing

[quote]If so, that was by choice. She absolutely could've grossed 100 million on tour in the early-mid nineties.

She didn't because she couldn't.

[quote]Despite all the hate she gets, you have to admire what Madonna has been able to achieve on the concert stage.

No, I don't.

[quote]I don't know if her concert achievements will ever be equaled.

Oh, please. Go to any aerobics class.

I think many of you are concentrating on the wrong thing. It's not about how about how much a tour grosses but more about how much is being taken home net, the longevity of the artist, etc

Diana Ross makes better-than-average revenue for her shows. She has low overhead and pockets most of the cash. She pockets at least $125k per show, more in Vegas and larger metropolitan areas. Festivals pay more than one night gigs. She does not need the money. She has more money than she could spend in her lifetime. She continues to perform only to secure her family's future. She will leave this life with at least $80 mil in a family trust fund. She wants to make sure her grandchildren and their grandchildren are taken care of for the rest of their lives. NO ONE in the Ross family is going back to the Brewster Projects.

Ross has a very good rep in the industry: no nonsense, very professional and reliable - no demands not included in the rider - in short: the ideal booking. This is a change from the early - mid 80's when she was considered a holy terror, but this may have been due to her taking over her career and tour management as she mellowed a lot by the end if the decade. Also, however, she is not known for her friendliness as she rarely speaks to or even meets the promoter other than the absolute minimum required per gig. Not all promoters want to meet or hang with the artist, but they are SOL with Miss Ross in that respect as she mixes with as few people as possible.

Diana Ross is a unique tour book in that she generally requires no advertising or promotion. She always uses a promoter who, if they see the need, will advertise. Diana Ross has never run an ad or commercial for her shows - all of that is done by the promoter if they want to pay for it.

This is how it's worked:

CAA sends out a blast that "Diana Ross will be available here___________ during this time span__________." They include her standard rider and minimums, then get offers from promoters all over the area involved for a specific amount, guarantee and venue of their choosing. In the initial email blast, she may sometimes include her druthers for a specific venue, but not often. She then chooses her itinerary based on the deals she is offered, informs CAA and let's them handle the legalities and any negotiations she may require or attempt. Her standard deal is a guarantee - generally 135k and up (depending on venue size & locale) plus 85% of the net after that amount. On rare occasions, to fill in an empty date or for personal reasons, accept a lower guarantee. The promoter signs the contract, sends half of the guarantee to CAA as a deposit, and goes to work selling the show. Just before showtime, Miss Ross is personally presented with the balance due including the percentage. Occasionally, should there be a discrepancy, it will be handled afterwards. She generally requires certified checks at the venues, but, knowing the hassle it is for the promoter after banking hours, will accept a personal check once a firm, trusting relationship is established. This is rare. Aretha and sometimes Patti require cash, and Aretha has been known to demand additional funds at the last minute or will not go on.

Casinos often just offer a flat rate based on their personal experience with the artist and casino business is strictly monitored on show nights. Artists that bring in $$$ at the tables, are brought back as often as possible regardless of box office take.

The following is hearsay, but from a generally reliable source:

She does not tour Europe, I am told, because during talks for summer 2010 tour, the promoter said something(s) heinous to Miss Ross about MJ shortly after his passing and she evaporated him - and, I am told, once that happens, you never get a second chance with her.

This thread is incredibly bitchy.

Drake's highest-grossing tour was $84 million, which is the highest ever for a hip-hop artist. He did this a couple years ago.

Who in their right mind says that Whitney wasn't an international success? Ok so she may have only had 4 #1s in the UK compared to her 11 in the US, but she's recently just had a song stay at #2 (Higher Love) for ages. She's universally renowned.

Mariah has only has 2 #1's in the UK. Without You and a duet with Westlife. Tastes in music are different than in the USA.

Tina Turner had more success with albums and touring than with singles. She was filling stadiums when she was the age that Madonna is now. I saw her last tour (when she was 69) and rather than it being full of old people there was people of all ages.

OP, thanks for the great photo that I love!

What does it tell the world that Tina Turner Bach will be 80 on Tuesday after surviving Ike, poverty, a stroke, kidney failure, a kidney transplant and cancer, whereas Whitney Houston is a dead drug addict? Nobody sold out international stadiums like Tina. When she was 69, she closed the curtain on her career with a rock and roll retirement tour. She accomplished that via a clear mind undamaged by alcohol and drugs. Please take Tina's wise advice. Even I don't practice her religion, but I follow her advice.

I was too young to be involved with Madonna's first tour, but nobody was bigger than she in her era.

I didn't attend Tina Turner's 2009 retirement tour, but her ticket prices were never overinflated that I recall, when I was required to pay.

If the most wonderful lady in the world other than Tina sees this, thank you for allowing me to meet Tina at Radio City Music Hall in 1997. I think of you often. Literally, I could feel Tina's positive energy when she entered the room. She was so petite! Her skin was like gold and honey. As I gave her some gifts and bent down, I accidentally gave her too big a kiss on her right cheek, but I didn't get to apologize; I was in my moment alone with Tina Turner!

That night Cyndi Lauper opened for Tina. Unexpectedly, she came down from the stage extremely pregnant into the aisle. I had an aisle seat down front and center. As she was singing and dancing along, for some reason Cyndi spotted me and stopped! She took my hand, so I stood up and danced with her for a few seconds then sat back down, knowing she needed to get back to her job. What a night that July! I'll never forget it! :-)

R116 it’s a matter of genetics and family. Tina definitely did drugs. She was coked out big time before her comeback. She had the foresight to tell her family to fuck off, where Whitney kept her toxic religious family close by.

R118, of course genetics are the determining factor because that's present in my line. Regarding drug use, you may not be aware that can be genetically tested also. I've attached the 1993 Essence Awards where Tina is presented first. At about 13:09, Tina says, "No drugs, no alcohol." I talked to a police officer who arrested Ike and Tina after they were fighting. There were no drugs involved, so respectfully, I don't believe it. Tina never had a criminal record. Thanks for your input.

-116

I have never been a Cher fan but last night she was playing in Phoenix and since I had nothing better to do I went to see her.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT... it was the most amazing spectacle I have ever seen.

That woman is a true national treasure.

R120, thanks for sharing. Glad you could see Cher! She, Tina and Janet Jackson are all represented by RDM.

R120, did you see the 2004/2005 Oprah/Tina/Cher interview where Tina is truly shocked and asks Cher, "How'd you owe Sonny money?" As Cher originally claimed, that bastard Sonny literally had her in slavery while they were married. David Geffen discovered her contract required Sonny get at least 50% of everything she earned on her own! Just like Tina after the divorce, Cher owed big dollars. As I've always heard, men are pigs.

How much is Tina worth today?

R122, I didn't see that interview but last night at her show Cher told a great story about the time she turned 40. After that she proceeded to reveal her age: SEVENTY-FUCKING -THREE.

She is pure gold.

R123, the internet reports approx $250 million and allegedly her husband s worth more. In their after-wedding interview, she says he said if we don't get married, you won't get my money. Tina said they got married because if one of them got ill, they wouldn't have legal rights to visit and care for each other. In Tina's new book, she stated she had a slight learning impairment, so it's easy to misunderstand what's she's stating if you don't understand Buddhism. The interview was taped about 3 months before she had a stroke. I spotted her right lip is slightly drooping. She doesn't give autographs anymore, so I spotted it correctly. She looks amazing for 73, but she always has and looks great today. I still see the girl from Nutbush.

I'm happy to see Ariana on the list. She sells more and more tickets every tour she does.

Shell be ready for the stadiums the next tour she does.

[quote]Tina definitely did drugs. She was coked out big time before her comeback.

MMPH! That's a new one. This is the first time in my life that I have ever heard that Tina Turner did any type of drugs and/or had a drug issue.

[quote]I have never been a Cher fan but last night she was playing in Phoenix and since I had nothing better to do I went to see her.

Can we sue her? I'm serious! Can the public sue Cher and Barbra Streisand both? How many years have both them been saying goodbye and neither one has gone anywhere? FALSE ADVERTISING!

[QUOTE] She looks amazing for 73, but she always has and looks great today. I still see the girl from Nutbush.

She's older than 73. Turner is 80 or near it.

[quote][R123], the internet reports approx $250 million and allegedly her husband s worth more.

I'd be interested to learn how she made that type of money. That's A LOT of money that was made after leaving Ike with only 30 cents to one dollar to her name and in her pocket.

R129, an internet search is easy. Cher was born in 1946. Tina was born Anna Mae Bullock on 26 November 1939 in the Brownsville General Hospital in Brownsville, Tennessee.

Tina's world tours (1985/1987/1990 no US dates/1993 US/1997/2000/2005/2009) were sold out in addition to about 200 million records sold to date. When Tina left Ike, she was not only bankrupt, she was in debt for 6 figures due to tax debts and unfulfilled Ike & Tina Turner Revue concert dates.

A recording artist used to get about $1 per album plus royalties for songs authored. Tina also had parts in 3 movies and multiple endorsement deals, especially in Europe. She owns the rights to "Nutbush City Limits" and was compensated for her 2 books and the mostly fiction movie "What's Love Got To Do With It". She is very generous, but doesn't "advertise" her charitable contributions.