I was just arrested yesterday morning

EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU ARE ARRESTED

COME STRAIGHT TO THE DATALOUNGE!

Fuck that "get an attorney" bullshit.

COME STRAIGHT TO THE DATALOUNGE!

I'm just looking for some guidance here.

Then fucking hire a lawyer.

So rude. I was here to see what level of lawyer I should get R3 and how much I should be willing to pay. I know I have to get one.

"Look, I didn't tell you ANYTHING about the situation AND I'm asking a group of anonymous assholes for legal advice, I don't see why you don't trust me!"

Ignore the assholes, OP. Tell us what happened. And if this indeeds ends up being an EST it better be a fucking good one. It's dull as hell around here lately.

AMA R5

[quote]Ignore the assholes, OP.

Considering OP didn't give any damn information, the responses attacking them about it is a given.

R8 That also makes me think it's real. It's when someone comes in fully loaded with an overly detailed intro post that I get suspicious. Still...what the fuck happened OP? You've had enough time to start spilling, so spill.

It was all so stupid. I was with someone who I've been with a few times. At his place. He passed out from too many drinks and I got up to walk around and I saw his men's Sapphire ring on the kitchen counter, and I don't know what came over me....I just had to have it. So I took it and let myself out of the house.

A week later -- yesterday -- police came to my door with a warrant and found the ring. And now because of the high value of the ring I'm charged with Grand Theft, a felony.

THIEF!

You need a defense attorney.

public defender

Just get a criminal attorney. We can't help you. Find a lawyer.

but someone must have been through this here before

Are you out on bail? What was your bond?

I wish Muriel would arrest people for posting ESTs on Datalounge.

I could ask my great aunt for money for the attorney. Or represent myself and just plead guilty.

Trying to decide what to do.

It was $2000 R16.

OP, you've done an invaluable deed to the numerous johns on DL': never leave valuables in plain sight when you have gentleman callers (aka hookers) over.

Please represent yourself in court and get back to us with how that goes.

If you live in a crime-infested shithole as I do, chances are you will get a slap on the wrist. If you are a whore in a small town, however, pre-lube before you report to prison.

Those damn cavity searches.

I'm glad he called the cops on your ass, hopefully it will teach you that stealing from people is not okay. Actions have consequences.

Don't you have a sapphire ring or something you could pawn for bail? (You should have thought of all this before you stole something you mook. Rot in jail for all I care.)

OP, listen to me: NEVER NEVER NEVER plead guilty! Never!

Thou shall Not Steal, Dumbkopf. No sympathy for thieves. Certainly the lowest common denominator, unless you're hungry or going through withdrawals and in need of a fix.

It wasn't like that R27. Not at all.

IANAL, but you need a defense attorney.

So R27 thinks its okay to steal if you're a junkie. Words fail me.

Post your full name and location so, on the off-chance I ever come across you, I can take appropriate precautions.

Even if a defense attorney gets OP out of trouble, the real issue will remain: stupidity.

If your stupidity doesn't ruin your life this time, OP, it will next time. Lawyers love guys like you! You keep them 🤑🤑

This seems weird to me. Did the guy have video of you taking it or something? He was drunk, so there could be some doubt that he would remember taking it off and putting it on the counter, versus just losing it. And then the cops show up at your house with a warrant just because you happened to be at his house that night? Too many connections here not connecting. I wouldn't think the police would have time for such capers.

Yeah I questioned that as well r33. "Cops showing up with a warrant" to search his place sounds over the top.

As long as you didn’t book a flight to Vienna, you will be ok.

Do you have a felony criminal record? If not, that could help you down the road. If yes, not so much.

Do you have the money to hire a private, defense attorney? Or are you broke?

You'll have to go to court regardless, unless you're planning to make a run for the border, Louise. Just follow the judge's instructions / orders, and maybe you can get a public defender. And then things will slowly, slowly wend their way through the court system.

Remember family members / friends / your employer could find out about this eventually, if it makes the papers.

I, personally, would try throwing myself on the mercy of the court. But get a lawyer first, Charlie, as this ain't no "B" movie.

Why would he need a video R33? They were the only two people in the house and the victim knew that the ring that was on the counter isn’t there anymore.

[QUOTE] Do you have a felony criminal record? If not, that could help you down the road. If yes, not so much.

No, the only thing I have is from back when I was 17. And it was dropped.

He made a police report and told them I was in the house when the ring went missing. That was all they needed to get the warrant.

R30 Apparently words indeed fail you, or at the very least give you trouble, as that is not at all what I wrote. Those hungry or suffering withdrawals are not considered THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR, as one could argue they are not fully culpable for their actions. Meanwhile, any dumbkopf mesmerised by some blingy shiny object, who has to steal it is of the lowest common denominator. Hope that helps, it's difficult to learn how to read between the lines and grasp subtle differences. Good luck!

It takes evidence to get a judge to sign off on a warrant. The judge has to see there is sufficient evidence to waive your right to privacy.

Unless there was some video evidence, it is hard to believe a warrant would be approved.

In general the first step would just be the cops showing up to ask questions, that the first OP heard of this is the warrant makes this story questionable.

This idiot kept the stolen property in his home. I just...I can’t even.

What would I do? I'd claim he gave it to me as a gift for a fabulous night. He said, he said, OP. Was anyone else there to see or hear the transaction? If not, plead not guilty with this story and stick to it. That he got it back and may be willing to shut the fuck up about that night could work in your favor.

You were stupid and succumbed to a very bad, very common impulse. Don't let it happen again.

Op, if he was that drunk that he passed out, why didn't you just tell the cops that he gave you the ring ?

I know R42...and I have no words. All I can say is I wasn't thinking clearly. That must mean I'm sick.

I know R42...and I have no words. All I can say is I wasn't thinking clearly. That must mean I'm sick.

it could be Munchhausen's

Did you already confess when the cops brought into the station or did you keep your mouth shut?

If you admitted you stole it not much any defense attorney can do.

The only dumber thing the OP could have done was have the ring actually on his finger when the cops showed up.

I thought it was my cock ring!

Well what I’m gonna go ahead and do is tell you do at this time need to come with the information to your public defender who can help you in a court of law right quick. You may also want to at this time contact your friend and see if you can apologize since there may have been circumstances and situations and tribulations that caused you to take that ring.

Exactly R51. OP simply had a case of "The Sparkles".

Your friend sounds like a real asshole. Apologize, get a lawyer and get everything in court fixed, and once the charges are dropped cut that bitch out of your life for good.

[Quote]since there may have been circumstances and situations and tribulations that caused you to take that ring.

Yes, like OP is a thief with no morals who needs a good slapping from his mother.

OP, ask for an adjournment on medical grounds. See a specialist, and get him to surgically loosen your anal sphincter. Because you're going to jail, and Big Mikey is going to tear you a new one. Just using spit.

Miss OP, just Google criminal defense attorneys in your city. Don’t use a public defender, for God’s sake, and definitely don’t plead guilty without the advice of an attorney. You’ll get fucked six ways to Sunday.

And yes, you’re an idiot.

A lot of people have motion detector cameras in their houses now, OP. It’s possible he’s got video of you doing it. Whether that video is admissible, if you were never told you were being filmed, is another thing. A lawyer would know. Doesn’t mean he won’t be after you to get the ring back if he knows it was you.

My advice is, shut the hell up, including on this site, about this. Do not tell anyone you did it. Then talk to the lawyer and see what he says.

If there is footage, the lawyer can ask for a copy, which is called “discovery.” A lawyer will probably say, how do you know he stole it? How do you know you didn’t throw it in a corner somewhere when you were drunk, or drop it somewhere? But if you tell everyone you can find, you’re screwed. For fuck’s sake, do not talk about this on Facebook, Reddit, or anywhere else. And I’d tell the lawyer you posted about it here. Your trick might very well be reading this right now, you numbskull.

For the love of God, SHUT UP!!!!!1!!!11!

[QUOTE] I was here to see what level of lawyer I should get [R3] and how much I should be willing to pay. I know I have to get one.

You need a fancy level attorney and you need to pay him $10,000. If you don't have $10,000 you could always steal some money from someone else to pay.

Oh, he won't shut up, R57. If he doesn't post on this board, he'll just find another one.

I'd have had that ring sold on Ebay by now.

Cut the crap: OP’s a thief, who stole from someone who was drunk and incapable at the time, but who trusted OP. Don’t help the piece of shit.

Maybe you should call Jennifer and Jonathan Hart and see if they can assist.

R61 True, but did the friend really need to press charges instead of just confronting them honestly?

My head is in a spin

My feet don't touch the ground

Because you're near to me

My head goes round and round

My knees are shakin' baby

My heart it beats like a drum

People don't tend to learn a lesson unless they suffer consequences r63.

OP is helping to protect the next person OP wants to steal from. He'll think twice.

Yeah R63 I get the feeling the owner of the ring was not really OP's "friend".

"Your friend sounds like a real asshole."

OP steals an expensive piece of from a friend and the friend is an asshole for reporting it?

I'm afraid you're the asshole here, R53. A complete, total, unmitigated, unadulterated, grade A, first class asshole at that.

R64 Your point?

The friend is helping to protect*

OP resign yourself to the fact that you will go to jail, think of all the big cagemeat that will be available to you.

You can teach the DataLounge class at the jail OP!

OP sounds like a genuine dolt, not a hardened criminal. Just a dizzy queen who needs a handler.

This could happen to anyone. Everyone makes mistakes.

This could happen to anyone. Everyone makes mistakes.

You let them in your house to find a ring without a search warrant? Why didn't you just say you know nothing about it and then you could have returned it anonymously? Who would let the cops in their house for no reason? Sounds hinky if you ask me.

R75, he said they had a warrant.

What part of "they had a warrant" do you knot understand, R75?

Cops don't just show up with a warrant for a drunken ring theft. Unless there was a video that showed him pocketing the ring which I doubt, ridiculous. They barely even take a report.

[quote]I wish Muriel would arrest people for posting ESTs on Datalounge.

I would like the dimwits who fall for them charged as accessories to the crime.

Ask if you can do community service by servicing the community.

I get the impression that there's more to the story involving the relationship with the ring owner. There must have been some other bad blood or something else to have him react that way rather than just asking for the ring back.

Or his "friend" wasn't a friend but more of a trick.

OP is either an EST or the dumbest thief ever, to blab about his crime on an internet forum as soon as he's released on bail.

I'm guessing it's the former.

[quote]I saw his men's Sapphire ring on the kitchen counter, and I don't know what came over me....I just had to have it.

Are you Starlet O’Hara?

OP, you’re an adult, which means that you have pretty much developed a set of standards to live by, a set of values that inform your decisions. These things are pretty hardwired into all of us by a certain age, & are only hijacked under specific circumstances that would otherwise cause you to make choices antithetical to your set of norms, or your baseline.

Now I don’t know if you have substance abuse issues, or if you’re currently so broke, that you are faced with the possibility of losing your place to live, or your car, or maybe you can’t pay your utilities, or have been living off Top Ramen. Whatever your current circumstances might be, almost each and everyone of us have been in unusual and fucked up circumstances, myself included. I was so broke at one point, that I actually stole Top Ramen from a supermarket. Shit happens. I get it, & fortunately, if we earnestly attempt to turn things around, we can, and most of us do.

I’m going to assume that you aren’t flat broke, based on the fact that you’re either posting an EST, or a true story, because if you’re not sitting at a public place providing free WiFi, you’re using WiFi that you pay for, or data you pay for. You claim you were served with a warrant at your place, so you obviously aren’t homeless.

Question: why the fuck do you think that it’s OK, to walk into someone’s home, & steal from them, if you’re aren’t starving on the streets or high as fuck on drugs, & jonesing for more shit? People fucking work for the shit they buy, and while most shit is nothing but cheap junk, it’s still junk that belongs to someone else.

From all you have shared, it appears that you’re just an entitled, common criminal, and so self serving, you come on to a website, trying to dramatize these events, as your bad luck, rather than to even recognize that you’re pretty much a huge piece of shit for stealing property from your friend who trusted you. You tossed out your relationship with your friend/trick, over a fucking cheap piece of jewelry, asshole.

You’ll walk away with a slap on the wrist, THIS time, you fucking loser.

I'm voting for the latter, R83. Real life isn't the movies, criminals are dumb.

Holy mackerel, Sapphire!

I don't know. Could have just said he gave it to you and got mad and wanted it back. How did he have your address? Must be a video and more to the story. But, you just confessed to the crime on here and they can check your phone if it comes to that. You're dumb.

Time to lock this thread and pretend you never visited this site OP. Get rid of your phone OP.

And don't forget to clear your browser AND ROUTER history...!

[quote]I was here to see what level of lawyer I should get [R3] and how much I should be willing to pay.

Yes, these are common questions after one has been arrested. Get the highest level of lawyer you can find. Only go to the law firms in the really tall buildings. You should be willing to pay $200 and not one penny more. Good luck.

R68 < per the OP: And now I don't know what I should do next. My head is spinning. Help me Datalounge.

I can't fucking stand thieves, I hope you go to jail for the maximum length of time possible.

R74, no, it couldn’t happen to anyone. Some of us aren’t thieves.

I assumed that was sarcasm. Anyone who thinks this could happen to anyone is someone I wouldn't let inside my place.

Sane people don't just steal shit from people.

Just fucking give it back and say sorry. Say you’ll do community service to avoid tying up court system.

😜 I'm not a lawyer, but I play one in the bedroom.

Don't worry, it's all legal.

I heard someone say just yesterday that " when I saw it, I knew that I just had to have it! "

It was a chubby Frau talking about the $9.95 Halloween Size bag of assorted assorted Hershey fun size candy bars.

Here's a clue: "I'm guilty and prepared to pay my debt to society"

Do the crime, do the time.

Oh, and "what came over you" was your lack of a moral compass.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

Call me . . .

Zero sympathy for you OP.

And by the way, you're an idiot.

OP wants our seal of approval.

Good luck with your career with a conviction of theft on your record. Shows an employer you aren't trustworthy.

Tell them you are part Niffler.

He wouldn't need a video, R33. And you've missed the point of my comment.

Are you a colored man?

I'm surprised the DL sleuths haven't found any holes in OP's story. It's sketchy in detail, and somewhat believable since he admits to the theft.

Here's a few things I'm thinking: OP and victim likely do not live in a large urban area. Rapid police action on the theft of a piece of personal jewelry is unlikely in that situation unless the item was extremely valuable and the victim was connected to the police in some way or a VIP. A warrant was procured very quickly, yet OP doesn't believe he was filmed and few people train video on their own living areas, so it was word of the victim against the OP. Again, he's connected or this is a smaller town with aggressive cops.

OP doesn't seem like a hardened criminal type, so again, coming here and admitting to the theft appears to be the stupid and naive actions of the non-criminal classes. Believable, if dumb. Finally, OP has not told us about bail, arrest, etc. other than to moan about a felony.

I think it's an EST, but it's a pretty good one. I'm picky, though, and wanted a bit more info about bail, who paid it, etc. That's usually what happens, and when you're in the can for the first time, there's usually a smart ass cop around to tell you what to do, let alone the fire alarm lawyers who pick up the odd client in the hallways after arraignments. 7/10 for making me think.

Assuming this is real, if you don't have a prior record that will work in your favor. Have you been arrested for anything before?

OP: Get a criminal lawyer. If you can't afford one, the court will appoint one for you. Private attorneys are usually better, so don't stint. Spend every penny you have, if necessary. This is the most serious thing you will ever face except a life-threatening health issue. Do not say another word to anyone, including the DL, until you have a lawyer. Then, be completely honest with your lawyer.

R61 et al. Of course the victim called the cops. That's what they're there for! The OP and the victim are obvious not best friends, as his story makes clear.

OP is a jewel thief.

Tweaker!

Thieves and politicians who lie should get the same sentence. Death.

OP you can plead insanity, just show them that you came here first and they will believe you.

Asked and answered, R111.

R110 - numerous people doubted the story based on the fact that no judge is likely to issue a warrant for something like this unless there was evidence OP stole the ring, such as video evidence. OP is a big, fat liar.

Is Mary OP back in the pokey? Did she find a lawyer who told her to stop posting about it online?

Has anyone noticed the OP is using two different browsers? Some of his posts are identified as “eee,” while others are anonymous.

R120 must be one of the Hardy Boys.

Do you and your brother use the same browser, or do you use two different browsers?

The only thing I've ever "stolen" was a couple of extra cookies when I was on dishwashing detail after Sunday dinner.

You robbed a trick? Who do you think you are-=Vairst Letty?

“Your Honor, it only dislodged itself from my zeigfried elebenty hours ago. My friend misplaced it inside me.”

You’re welcome, you miserable whisk thief....

OP is telling tall tales to entertaint us.

"Entertaint." Perfect.

You will probably get in a diversionary program. Most states have a 1st offender program for felony offenses. You get in the program and they give you probation, community service, maybe some type of class to go to or counseling. If you complete everything in the program and haven't gotten into any other trouble it won't be on your record

If this is your first arrest, you will be wasting your money hiring an attorney because a public defender will get you the same deal. And it's not like on tv, where you go and see the public defender right away and are in constant contact with them. You will probably only see them a few days before your court appearance. That's normal. Even if you hire a lawyer, they will see you one time to collect a retainer then they will tell you to call them when you get a court date (a letter telling when you have to show up to court). That can be up to a year in some counties/states. When you get the letter and call the lawyer they will just try to make a plea deal for 1st offender status with the public defender. Many times they will do it right before your hearing. Don't waste your money on a lawyer. They aren't going to get you out of it. Again, this isn't like on tv

Get all your ducks in a row now so you're ready when you begin your incarceration term. If/when you're released, get therapy. Stop fucking stealing!

OP, first off take a deep breath and calm down.

I was arrested about a year ago for 3 counts of petit larceny for not scanning some low dollar items at a self checkout.

Like you, I had no prior criminal record. How old are you? I was 42 at the time and they plays a huge role in the outcome of your case. As my lawyer said, at that age no one is looking to start a criminal career.

Get yourself an attorney. The best you can afford. I paid $3000 for mine and he will handle the initial stuff like arraignment and you don't even have to show up in court for that.

Did you post any kind of bail? I was released on a $1000 secured bond which meant I paid no money but if I didn't show up they would issue another warrant and then I'd have to pay up. Again, your personal attorney will handle all this for you.

Something I did to help myself, which you may want to consider if you have insurance, is to schedule an appointment with a shrink ASAP and get into therapy. Get to the root of why you did this. I saw both a psychiatrist, who prescribed medications, and a counselor who eventually submitted documentation and a summarization of my sessions to show improvement. She also listed my medications. Remember...you are building a case FOR you just as the DA is building a case AGAINST you.

Going this route also helped draw my case out for several months. Arrested in late October and finally sentenced in mid March of the following year. If you can put several months of non criminal activities behind you, then the judge looks favorably upon you. It shows you have not only taken responsibility for what you have done but you are also taking responsibility for WHY you did and precautions to not do it again.

Like I said there were about 3 trips to court before we finalized everything. I eventually was found guilty on 3 misdemeanors and paid $100 fine for each charge plus court costs. I think it was $565 total.

Yes, I did get jail time but it was 90 days on each charge with all but 8 days suspended. Now here is what also works in your favor. Like me, you committed a non-violent act and therefore, like me, you'd qualify for "weekend jail."

And even this is not as bad as it sounds. It is basically supervised community service and you do not spend the night or anything. I did my time over the course of 4 weekends back in June. You basically show up at 8am (with your lunch) and do yard work in the community til 4pm when they release you. And on hot days or rain, they even let you go early. I think I only stayed a full 8 hour day maybe 3 of my 8 day sentence. Just make sure you show up and follow the rules otherwise you are kicked out the program and have to serve your time in real jail.

Good luck and don't let this get you down. We all make mistakes. The worst part, for me, was just not knowing what would happen next... Would my family find out? (They didn't.) Would I lose my job? (I didn't.)

You almost go through a form of PTSD after being arrested but it can be overcome.

Just look at it as a life lesson.

OP is a fraud. I don’t believe this story at all, but it is interesting enough to read the comments.

Buy him a new sapphire OP. This one is pretty nice. It's only about 3,000 and will still be cheaper than all your legal fees.

[quote]I was arrested about a year ago for 3 counts of petit larceny for not scanning some low dollar items at a self checkout.

LMFAO By low dollar items do you mean filet mignon? Did you know steak is the number one theft item in a grocery store?

Was Mary OP smoking pole in that WeHo T room again?

I called my mother last night and she's agreed to handle this and make it go away. Thank you for the support Datalounge.

Get a lawyer.

R110 you don't pay the whole bail amount.

Why didn't you just do that in the first place, nitwit @R134.

You do realize you come across as a pathetic loser, no?

The response at r134 makes is clear OP was just trolling us. Not that it is surprising

Why not just say he gave you the ring when he was drunk? It sounds like he blacked out, so it would be he said-he said.

Sapphire ring? What a queen

[quote] for not scanning some low dollar items at a self checkout.

Shoplifting, sweetie. You shoplifted.

Yes, darling, but the official charges were petit larceny.

I'm betting the ring isn't worth $2000. Have it appraised and get the charges dropped to petty theft or petit larceny.

Not worth $2,000? Those lovely people at the Home Shopping Network told me it was worth at least $500,000 if I bought it at retail!

How often did you steal r129?

I suspect the store had even seen you do it before so they were prepared when they saw you go through the line again.

OP [bold]IS[/bold] Miss Lorelei Lee!

[quote] Yes, darling, but the official charges were petit larceny.

I wasn’t talking about that. You made it sound as if they were just some worthless items you thoughtlessly didn’t bother to scan.

You stole them. And something tells me it was neither the first nor the last time.

Former prosecutor here. The "facts" presented by OP are "questionable". If any of it is true he needs to get an attorney ASAP. More importantly he needs to SHUT UP. If you don't think prosecutors look at social media you are naive.

I'm going to answer you R137, even though you come across rude.

My mother is very "connected" in our town. She can call in a favor to get this to go away. And if that doesn't work she'll pay the guy off.

But I was hoping not to do have to do that because I'm 28 now and shouldn't be relying on mommy to help me live life. But when I got feedback on this I found it was the only option.

I thought fortune had finally turned in my favor, but I guess some things never change.

DL isn't exactly social media r148. Its not like this is Facebook or Instagram and you find can someone's DL history by googling their name.

[quote] I thought fortune had finally turned in my favor, but I guess some things never change.

This kind of thinking is part of your problem, Mary. You stole a goddamn ring. You’re not a victim of the misalignment of the stars. Even the way you phrased the theft, “Something just came over me,” shows that you don’t really think of yourself as having any agency in your own life.

It sounds like this isn’t the first time you’ve gotten yourself into a predicament. If you don’t stop thinking of life as something that just happens to you, it won’t be your last.

DL may not be traditional social media but there is no such thing as not relevant when a Prosecutor does due diligence. When I did defense work I tried to get my clients to stop posting anything anywhere. if he is from a prominent family, in this environment and there are individuals who want to hurt his family (very common) they can find ANYTHING.

Deal with it OP. You robbed a guy.

Own it, admit it and take full responsibility. It’s an alien concept to you because mommy still wipes your ass.

28 and robbing tricks? How old was this trick? Let me guess. He’s a friend who gives you cash as a “gift” right?

You’re obviously a whore. But you’re probably not worth prosecuting on a first offense. Mommy can’t make it go away, you infant.

[QUOTE] You robbed a guy.

No I didn't. I didn't hold a gun to him, he wasn't even in the room. And I didn't hurt anyone.

You don’t have to hold a gun on someone to rob them. And they certainly don’t need to be in the room. Or even the house. You still don’t seem to understand that you actually did something. Much less something wrong. It’s just something that “happened” to you. Some unknown force acted upon you. Read R151 again.

^ Legally and technically "robbery" DOES include the use of force.

OP did not "rob" him.

But he did steal.

Thank you R156. Someone with a brain finally posted here.

[quote]Thank you [R156]. Someone with a brain finally posted here.

OP - you do understand what you just said about yourself, don't you?

No, OP, mommy can't pay to make this go away darling. That horse trotted out the barn when you were arrested and charged with a felony. The victim may request you get lenient treatment, but the state isn't that interested in your mommy's connection when it comes to a felony theft already fingerprinted and recorded.

If this were real, we shouldn't have heard from you again, but you aren't that bright and this isn't that good of an EST now. I'll deduct another 5 points and only give you 2/10 for the entertaintment.

Eastern Equine Encephilitis - EEE/eee - is how I'm reading your name, OP. It's a rare, mosquito-borne disease that's currently on the rise.

Either you're a carrier/mosquito or your brain has swelled and you need to go to hospital right away. I've heard wearing sapphires helps with truthfulness.

I didn't hurt anyone and you could even say I helped him out because the ring was very ugly and it scratched my rectum when I put it in.

That's not what I meant by 'wearing' the sapphire, OP, but you are known for being an ass.

If you have no criminal record, OP, you should be able to into a "diversion" program . Almost all judicial circuits have them. You'd need a good criminal defense attorney to get you in, and if I were to represent someone in your situation my legal fee would be $5,000.00, up front, no payments, and that wouldn't include costs, such as process servers for subpoenas, court reporters for depositions, etc. Even so, if this is your first offense I could easily get you into diversion. But the diversion program costs too. In my judicial circuit there's an up front cost of $1,000 for third degree felonies (what you'd be charged with in my circuit) and then a $150 monthly cost of supervision. You'd be subject to random drug testing at $75 bucks a pop, and you'd have to report to a probation officer weekly who would monitor your community service. You'd probably have about a 100 community service hours to do and six months in which to complete them. You'd also be subject to a court-ordered psychological evaluation and then court-ordered to complete any recommend treatment. That treatment would cost you money too. However, assuming you complete everything in the allotted time, the state would enter a nolle prosequi, thereby dropping your case and allowing you to expunge it from your record. The expungement itself is a separate matter, one for which I charge $1500.00. But it's worth every penny because then you won't have a felony on your record, which will keep you from getting a job anywhere and also from renting an apartment. You'd also be able to legally state that you've never been arrested.

Stealing that ring just cost you about ten grand if not more.

I haven't committed a crime but diversion sounds hot. Can you get me in?

R163 it would be a lot cheaper just to have my mother pay the trick, or call in a favor with the DA.

And I don't have $10,000.

R163 charges a lot of money for what basically amounts to pulling strings.

Steals from tricks, has his mommy call in favors to "take care of it"...if OP weren't a fictional character he'd really be loathsome.

[quote]It would be a lot cheaper just to have my mother pay the trick, or call in a favor with the DA.

Even if the alleged victim attempted to drop the charges, the state (or the prosecuting authority in your circuit) would most likely not allow it. Say the alleged victim did file a declination of prosecution. There is still the matter of the police report, evidence, etc.

What you don't seem to appreciate is that in order for the state to get a search warrant for your home, the alleged victim had to sign a statement saying that A) he didn't give you permission to take his property and B) that he agreed to testify in court. In my circuit you would still be prosecuted and the state would subpoena the victim to testify against you at trial. He would have no choice but to appear. And for him to file a declination, he would essentially have to admit that he lied in his original statement and would then open himself up to charges for having filed a false police report. And having your mother "call in a favor with the DA" is just patently absurd and makes me feel as if you're either making all this up or just ridiculously out of touch. Those things may happen on television or in real life with VERY powerful people but even then it's not common. Just look at the blow up over the conduct of the prosecutor's office in the Smollett case.

[quote] R163 charges a lot of money for what basically amounts to pulling strings

That's tantamount to saying that surgeons charge a lot of money for what basically amounts to a bunch of cutting and sewing, R166.

[quote]I haven't committed a crime but diversion sounds hot.

So do those weekly visits from the probation officer. Does that mean I get probed for free every week?

I'm sure the guy called OP a few times to ask about the ring before getting the cops involved.

No I charge $500 for every probing and you better be generous with the tip.

r172 I will, but you'd better be generous with more than just the tip.

[quote] Thank you [R156]. Someone with a brain finally posted here.

I’m done giving you advice. You deserve 20 years in prison. You are clearly an overprivileged, amoral reprobate with no self-awareness, and no interest in ever developing any.

One day Mommy will be dead and she won’t be able to bribe or strong-arm anyone on your behalf.

OP, you can say it was a prank. You can say you borrowed it and you thought it was OK as long as you returned it. Never dreamed it would get out of hand like this. Terrible misunderstanding. BTW: You're a real piece of shit. IMO there aren't many things lower than thief. Especially someone like you that was invited into someone's home and steals something from them in their home. Pig. Get a criminal defense attorney. If this is your first offense, you may get off with a stern warning probation and a fine.

One more idea: Tell them you wanted his attention. Tell them you were afraid you'd never hear from him again and you took it as a souvenir never realized it was so valuable. WTF ever.

OP's mother is just as messed up as he is, how do you think he got this way justifying his adolescent illegal behavior fishing a gay website for sympathy?

Tell mommy that your trick was especially hot in bed and you own him. Whatever the ring was worth, have mommy buy him one 3 times the size if he is willing to drop the case. I am sure she can afford it.

Why did the OP think fortune turned in his favor?

Did something good happen before this event?

Something is giving me the Seattle Creep Troll vibe...

Why didn’t he call you first? Wouldn’t his first thought be that he lost it...

When you go before the judge and he asks if you wish to plead guilty or innocent, just present hole.

20 years on the chain gang, for an aqua ring

R180 because he's rich and cruel (those two things go together).

Some part of me hated him. That's part of what made me take the ring. Other than seeing that blue fire in the morning sun. I just had to have it.

How big was the ring OP? Carat size please.

R180 that's a great question! There's definitely a gap in the information OP is providing us. Because if I'd "lost" my valuable ring, firt I'd tear the house apart looking for it, then I'd call the last person I was with when I had it to see if they remember anything. But apparently the victim knew what likely happened and felt no more connection to the OP than he would to any anonymous sex worker.

Question for the petit larceny guy: what do you forget to scan? How were you caught?

I didn't realize that we had so many world-class thieves on Datalounge.

Then again . . . . . . . . . .

🚔 Ma Petíte Larcenísta

[quote]Question for the petit larceny guy: what do you forget to scan? How were you caught?

I didn't forget. I just ran them across the scanner and it didn't beep but I still bagged them anyways. As for the items, a $20 storage bin, $18 Blu Ray and $9 bottle of laundry detergent.

I'm assuming they traced the store credit card I used.

Not something I'm proud of and definitely a lesson learned. My mother had recently died and I was going through a severe self destructive phase. Physically injuring myself, that sort of stuff. It was a huge wake up call to seek help and I'm much better for it.

I used to be deeply ashamed but I've paid my debt and now use the opportunity to help others. I would certainly never do it again.

People forget to scan items. Innocent mistake that happens all the time.

I am contrite for what I did, but...you don't know what this man is like. He made me do....things....just in exchange for giving me cab fare home.

I'm going to use a public defendor. I've heard many of them are quite good. Paying someone like R163 would just be debasing myself all over again.

[quote]I'm going to use a public defendor. I've heard many of them are quite good.

Now you do realize you don't really get a choice, right? They go by your income. It is, in a sense, a version of government assistance.

OP is so full of shit. Not even bothering to keep his story straight at this point.

[QUOTE] Now you do realize you don't really get a choice, right? They go by your income. It is, in a sense, a version of government assistance.

I don't have income. Well, mother gives me a monthly amount, but I don't declare it.

[Quote]OP is so full of shit.

I can't believe some people are still taking this thread seriously. It's so blatantly fake.

R194 that’s a great strategy. You should totally lie to the court, because there’s no consequences there.

Mild retardation + an internet connection.

If you're insane enough to only live on what your mom affords you, you're not sane enough to make a decision about your defense.

Let your mom take care of it.

Of course you're still posting on here, OP. As I said your dumbass would be, at R59. Your mother must be absolutely exhausted from her constant disappointment of you.

God, criminals are stupid.

R198 YOU DON"T KNOW ME.

R194 is Mommy's Little CandyAss.

I'm always amazed at the OPees who feel the need to respond to every poster who calls them out for what they are ....

Caftan Wearers who spontaneously combust.

Can I bump this thread to ask a legal question? Yes I'm utilizing DL for legal advice, sue me beyotches....my brother has a situation involving an RO.

If you're a parent and charged with DV, but later found not guilty on all counts and have a perfectly clean record, can't you apply to have the RO attached to the case lifted, if it keeps you from re-gaining legal custody of your child/ren?

OP is a thief, and a shitkicker and, uh....she'd like to be famous!

Yes, R202.

OP, why in the hell would you steal someone’s ring? Do you have a mental health issue, such as kleptomania?

The stupid. It burns.

Are you out of jail yet?

There is no person on the face of this earth who, after getting "arrested", would come to Datalounge for "help." Anybody who would take this fucking troll seriously is too stupid to live.

My dad was arrested in Jan for domestic violence (his ex gf, who is still living with him charged at him, he pushed her away, she charged again, he pushed her away, she fell, left the house, reported to the police station three hours later with a bloody nose and said he punched her in the face and slapped her. She’s such a liar). I am worried for him. The arraignment isn’t until April, but she’s in his house and has filed a protection order against him so he can’t go home.

I don’t believe the charges for one second, but I’m not sure how convincing she will be and how much she lied in her police statements and such. It’s a he said/she said thing, but don’t judges usually believe the women? DV is awful and abusers should go to jail, but I’m scared my dad is going to get screwed over here. Best case scenario is since he’s an upstanding citizen with no priors, he can get off with like twelve months probation, community service, and some dv classes (which he has already started taking).

Anyone have any experience with people who have lied about domestic violence? I guess I just needed to get this off my chest anonymously because it’s beem weighing on me since it happened. And this can’t be good for my dads health. I don’t hate this lady... I just want her out of his life. (And his house, she’s probably stealing all sorts of stuff).

[quote]He made me do....things....just in exchange for giving me cab fare home.

LOL

R209 I think that discussion needs a new thread

Wear something revealing and flattering to court, OP

Wet your lips and speak in a breathy voice when you testify