I'm the "Angela" at CDAN. AMA (provided it's funny)

Uhhhh..... no. Just no.

Leave Tricia alone!

You take that massive liar CDAN seriously?

Fuck off!

R3 Not a liar, she's real.

I'm The Garofaholic.

Why would being gay imply that you're a massive pervert!!!!

What's all this crap about 'the club'? I don't really get it.

I try to leave Tricia alone. Actually, she's in another dimension, where a life can be built on checking a website every fifteen minutes to be sure about being the one posting the first comment and the answer to a new blind item. When you think about it, her entire mornings must be built around the automated schedule of a gossip blog every day of the year. That takes more than dedication. Imagine that one morning one of her kids arrives covered in blood. 'Mummy, I'm hurt.' 'Shut up, it's 9:59 AM, I have to see the new blind item. It's 10:00! Here it is. Mmm-mmh... Mmm-mmh... Oh, I know it! It's Meghan Markle! Now, about your injury, do you think that it can be dealt with within 15 minutes.'

Still, she amazed me, a few weeks ago, when she gave a vivid description of the Avignon Film Festival in France, because she claimed it was the solution to a blind. I'm French, and Avignon is a theater festival.

I don't know what's more pathetic: reading CDAN or identifying oneself as a CDAN personality.

[R3] I'm only here to debunk the blind items and have fun at the expanse of the alt-right crowd there. Sure, I was a regular a few years ago, when it was just a gossip blog with an emphasis on Old Hollywood.

I'm Wigmaniac.

Does Janeane really wear a wig?

R6 The site has quite the homophobic slant. There will be a ton of blind items about some closeted actor, but as soon as the actor comes out, the blinds often turn into implications that he's chiefly into underage boys. That's actually a common strategy by the alt-right, to attack somebody by claiming they're a pedophile or in cahoots with pedophiles.

one funny and one serious question for the Old Hollywood emphasis CDAN regular of yesteryear:

What are the most "close but not quite" Old Hollywood blind items you remember that were so obviously amalgamations or 'paste jobs' from Kenneth Anger's [italic]Hollywood Babylon[/italic]?

Have any CDAN Old Hollywood blind items solved lingering mysteries for you?

Enty is hellbent on making Marisa Tomei into a alcoholic.

Based on what you've read on CDAN, what Hollywood personalities would be good celebrity death pool picks for 2020?

R7 The Club is one of the most outrageous continuing stories on the site. It's supposedly a secret society with a lot of A-lister actresses who all have major awards (having an Oscar was apparently needed to join the Club) and whose goal is to promote transgenderism by raising their kids as trans. Because Hollywood fabricates trans, or some other shit.

R12 Janeane actually wears a merkin. She was getting depleted down there, and found this as the solution.

R14 Good question that requires some real answer. I'm interested in Old Hollywood tales not because I want to find out who killed Thelma Todd (apparently everybody in Hollywood according to Enty), but because they're in some way part of the Hollywood myth, by being shared for decades.

R16 According to Enty, the usual suspects. Justin Bieber, Zayn Malik, etc. According to the commenters, every liberal celebrity, because they deserve to burn in hell.

I stopped reading CDAN after the Timmy/Shimmy debacle.

R18 I was actually the one who found out who the actress supposedly was, and even then I expressed my doubts at the entire story. The crap actually started out at "MV" (Milli Vanilli), the female singer who didn't actually sing on any of her records. It was most likely Jennifer Lopez, but the whole story made zero sense. With Autotune and other current technologies, you can basically take some average voice and boost it in post, without any need for someone else to sing the main parts. And it's not as if Lopez sang complex parts on her albums.

R19 No, that's true about JLO. Autotune wasn't perfected back then.

So, do you know anything about the mansion on St. Charles in New Orleans?

R20 You're right. Britney can definitely sing live. Lopez may not have the chops to sing without the help of current technology, and that's why she was the reasonable guess. But the rest of the story was quite dubious, given the continued need for Lopez to rely on a particular singer on her albums. Lopez has anything but a memorable or distinctive voice on her records. Just take a Latina singer in the same register, get her to whisper half the lyrics, and you have your J.Lo recording.

So who is Enty?

I liked it when he started copying all of datalounge's dirt about Kevin Spacey...then when Kevin was exposed as a sexual predator, he pretended he had "inside info" but he was just repeating stuff he read on Gawker and the Datalounge

R17 How dare you say that about Janeane.

You weren’t Angela on Dlisted, were you?

Why does his site attract so many right-wingers? The only people I know who "follow" celebrity gossip tend to be gays and relatively liberal females.

R19, I read the answer (pre "reveal") over at a Survivor Sucks forum. A poster had laid out a convincing scenario and Enty basically followed it. Got called out in the comments for it too.

R21 I mostly intervened in this series when Enty tried to give some closure about the whole saga by claiming it was a real and beloved old house that had actually burnt a few days before. It even made national news.

I checked the local reports. None of them were really in line with the rest of the story. A family, a couple in their sixties and their in-laws were actually living in this rather small house with a dog. Of course, nobody living near the house had even shared any story since that supported the claims about lots of celebrities going into that particular house. The owner was a beloved local figure. So, I shared some evidence.

Cut to two days late. There's a new blind item, that basically rephrases something published in the comments. The owner was a lawyer. Another commenter had found his name on a website put together by some conspiracy theorist who was fired from his job as a professor at a Tulane and who's been in a legal dispute with them for 10 or 15 years. Remember the scene from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Charlie has started a large board to investigate "Pepe Silvia"? That is the web equivalent. A page for every local figure who's a Tulane alumni, all involved in a grand conspiracy that involved mind control experiments in the seventies. So, the new blind item was that the owner of the house was directly connected to the experiments, as proved by the website that featured his name.

Then I realized that I had indirectly involved an innocent person into this thing, as the guy could be harassed or attacked by some insane reader who wanted to have answers about the use of his house for secretly taped orgies involving kids.

I sent a tip to the Entertainment Lawyer a few years ago. It was real info - it was about an athlete (well, ex-athlete) and the info came from someone who knew him well. He printed the blind item....but added a bunch of details that were not true, maybe to make it "juicier"

r30 what was the item?

Back when "Sherlock" was a thing, CDAN used to print the vile shit that the insane BC fangirls made up about Mrs. BC.

He probably still does, but I've lost touch with the batshit BC fangirls and their conspiracy theories about the wife, since they were run off of this forum.

R31, I don't want to say for various reasons, but the subject of the blind item was a former athlete who has been discussed at the DL a lot

R29 Wow, thank you, Angela.

R23 At this point in the life of the site, Enty may just be one guy who rephrases most of the blind items that get sent to him by a bunch of regular and occasional contributors. It's hard to say if it's the same guy as in the early days. I'm pretty sure otherwise of the identity of Himmmm.

R24 About Spacey, one masseuse who sued him died a few days ago. There was another person who was in a legal dispute with him a few years ago who passed away before the trial started. The blind item posted this week suggests that the events are in no way a coincidence. So, the question is, if Spacey is so powerful and connected he can get people killed, why doesn't he do it BEFORE they sue him, when no-one watches?

R27 The site is custom made for right wingers, people who hate Hollywood and loudmouthed liberals with a passion. That's indeed a common strategy by the alt-right to level pedophilia accusations at any detractor to destroy their credibility. Frankly, the people at CDAN would be delighted to get confirmation that hundreds of children are raped every day in Hollywood, because it would mean that their hatred of these people who say mean things about Donnie is entirely justified. That was a major evolution of the site around 2017, that didn't go unnoticed on DL. CDAN often had negative gossip about Trump around 2015-2016, then it stopped suddenly to make way for stories about the Clintons having a magic pill that gives brain cancer without leaving a trace. Enty, either on command or on his own, had realized that he had hit a chord with a particular crowd and decided to milk it as much as he could. Hence the stories about Spielberg and Geffen being the leaders of the largest child molestation ring in Hollywood, as a sequel to his totally non-informed blind items about Weinstein.

Wasn't it suspected that RDJ was a regular poster?

Hey, someone who might have been RDJ posted here late one night! Whoever it was had some good dish on Terrence Howard's behavior on the set of "Iron Man", and why he was replaced by the ever-professional Don Cheadle. When I asked him if he was Downey he said "yes" and the subject was dropped.

There's some speculation that that "Hmmm" guy is Downey, but I don't believe it. I'd have an easier time believing that RDJ would post on this cesspool than the CDAN cesspool.

R29 The blinds about his wife resumed a few weeks ago. There was another one yesterday or today.

Before the hiatus, some people suspected that the source was some notoriously deranged groupie who had been banned from many message boards due to her obsession with his girlfriends. Now, these people have left the blog and the stories have returned without anyone to dispute them.

You can also notice that most of the anger there targets wives of until then beloved celebrities. BC's wife, Meghan Markle (a real fixture), Chris Cornell's widow, etc. I guess that the audience there consists mostly of housewives in their 40s or 50s who had a crush on the men these bitches end up marrying, and who will gladly take any story about them being awful women.

R36 R37 An old thread here had concluded that Himmmm was some failed screenwriter named Talley Griffith. Everything I've found about him supports that theory. Griffith tends to project himself into four of five real-life personas that reflect the issues he has and the success they got, and somehow serve as a model to him. That's what "Himmmm" actually is. Griffith has a history of substance abuse. Who had huge drugs issues then managed to become the highest paid star in Hollywood? RDJ. So, Himmmm would write some tale, probably based on some gossip he had heard years before, that he would write as if he were RDJ himself. Griffith fancies himself as a talented writer (which he's definitely not...). Who was the emerging writer-director in his age range who found success in Hollywood while Griffith was trying to sell scripts? Paul Thomas Anderson. So, Himmmm would write a story where he's PTA, but he can't help himself writing like a bro version of PTA, like the guy some people assumed PTA to be in the Boogie Nights era, rather than the guy who has just written Phantom Thread.

You are way too invested in that website. If you think the stuff you're writing here is revelatory or interesting, it's not.

R39 I don't think at all it's revelatory, but I think it's helpful to put it in a single place, so it can be found more easily on the web, just like the previous threads Datalounge about the site were of great help to me, compared to what some "serious" publications would do when they would put together a piece on gossip sites and include CDAN without any second thoughts.

Besides, you have no idea of the actual time I spend there (I'm a rather fast writer), or the other stuff I'm involved with.

I think it's great that someone is exposing that alt-right douche. It's sad how the commenters there believe his crap, then they slander various stars based on made up blind items

Yes, that's exactly how this website works, R41

Let's say that Tom Hanks (someone that the readers would love to see exposed as a child molester or at least a serial cheater) makes some comment about decency and dignity.

The CDAN crowd will take that as an attack on Trump and Republicans. But what's wrong about peace, love and understanding? They don't have anything to say to address these imaginary Hanks comments.

But let's say that there's a blind item saying that Tom Hanks hasn't made any public appearance because he knows that he's about to get exposed for some serious wrongdoings at the time his next film gets released. Now the readers know that Hanks is evil, and that's what they'll repeat if they get asked to take a side on his statement.

And indeed, Hanks was the obvious target of a recent blind item, even if Enty mostly focuses on Robert De Niro these days due to his numerous anti-Trump comments or appearances on SNL

Yeah, it's clear that they have an agenda to take down liberal stars. The blindgossip site is the same way.

Just one more thing about the pervert thing, R6. That's how the site rolls.

There's been a series of blind items about Ryan Murphy. The funny thing is that I'm not really a fan of AHS, a show that I actually hate-watch. The blinds have made laughable claims about Murphy getting three times the budget for the current season. It doesn't make any sense, as no network would decide to give such a sum for an aging show, especially without any justification. The blinds claim that Murphy (and Murphy alone) took all the money for him, which has resulted in fixtures from the cast leaving the show (Sarah Paulson and Evan Peters) or a multiple Oscar winning actress (Jessica Lange) ignoring him at a recent pre-Emmy party. Both Sarah Paulson and Jessica Lange are now working on projects that are actually produced by... Ryan Murphy...

I actually posted this, even giving the name of the shows. Today, there's a new blind item, which claims once again that Murphy took all the money and that's the crew is being miserably exploited while Murphy parties, maybe with the "disgraced director". Because all gays know each other in Hollywood and Murphy must be connected in some way to Bryan Singer and a pedophile ring, mustn't he?

The pedophile stuff actually came up earlier about Murphy, when Enty "explained" that Mark Salling had actually been murdered. The child pornography pictures and videos that had been found on his computer weren't something he had found on his own. They had been provided to him by Ryan Murphy. Murphy had got them from the one responsible for their existence, (((David Geffen))). When Geffen heard that Salling had been arrested and was about to give names, he got Salling killed and it was arranged to make it look like a suicide.

That's just a sample to show how the blog does often turn homosexuality into a huge clue for perversion.

[quote] (((David Geffen)))

So you are antisemitic in addition to being boring and obsessed with a loser website?

So what you are saying is CDAN is an alt-right takedown site disguised as a blind gossip site?

I love going over blind items that are ten or so years old and see which ones have turned out to be true I’d say 55% crap 45% true.

CDAN is pure garbage, as are most gossip sites, however CDAN takes the cake with their pedo obsession.

Not that DL is too far behind, btw, but at least here, we discuss people who have been legitimately busted, rather than going deep into the QAnon delusion spewed by CDAN’s regulars.

Celebrity gossip should be funny and bitchy. CDAN just accuses everyone in HW of diddling kids. Who wants to read that type of shit? If I want to read that shit 24/7, I would have worked as a detective, trying to bust people who hurt kids, while running the real risk of wanting to blow my brains out due to the nature of that job. Yet the fringe Trumpers LOVE this type of shit, while never lifting one finger, (such as voting for decent people) to change things.

I was a huge fan of the CDAN site for years. In 2017 or so my enjoyment ebbed away and I couldn't bring myself to read it anymore. Thank you Angela for clarifying the shift in focus there. In fact, I noticed that gossip, as we used to know it, has virtually disappeared. Strange, innit?

I came to the conclusion that the so-called blind items had transformed from genuine gossip (or even mild PR) to something which had become monetized and weaponized: the ability to ruin someone's reputation in order to make Trumpian/deplorable points. Where the money comes in I don't know, but it has to be there somewhere.

Does anyone else miss Ted Casablanca, God I loved his stories. Oh Toothy I miss Your antics!

I used to read it, had read it for years but you couldn't pay me to read it now.

Those pedo-freak fraus come here and bring that shit here. It's disgusting and they need to be run off with the cumberbitches.

Oh, and he takes blind items from... wait for it...

POOSHOES

She fed him her fantasies/rants about the dangerous international terrorist Amal Clooney! And she's one of the pedo freaks, of course. According to these loons 87% of the people in the world are pedos led by David Geffen and Steven Spielberg! Everyone knows that, wake up sheeple! Julia Roberts blackballed me out of jealousy!

Sorry, I digress because the lunacy of POOSHOES momentarily overwhelmed me.

That's the level of the fucking CDAN blog. I wouldn't be surprised if the dumb cunt rightwing fraus reading the site are also the dumb cunt rightwing fraus making up and sending in half the blind items. The other half come from political propagandists but they all read exactly the same. Grease fires are too good for them.

But I don't want the site to disappear entirely because when they're there, POOSHOES and the other fraus aren't here.

Was a long time reader of CDAN. Definitely has changed. I always assumed it was sold or farmed out to what are called the “enterns”. I never commented because of the vitriol of who posted first. The only thing more boring that fighting over who posted first is the cat fight shit that kept any of the comment theses from being accessible.

The content in your comments certainly covers the gamut of the recurring or tent pole stories.

I read it because it was like ice for my brain after a long day. I’d have to skip all the kardashian, teen mom, and names I didn’t recognize or care to know about as the years went by.

We democratized media, it fractured dialogue into echo chambers which fomented tribalism Now democracy crumbles. The product of Roy Cohn, Vince McManhon, and Jeffery Zuckerberg is POTUS. Ironic that CDAN of all things would be flipped into something weaponized if that is the case.

Am I crazy or did it not in its earliest day evolve from a blog of naked actor movie stills and then one day the gossip started? It converted into the voice of some old queen who would never get some but was always watching who gave voice to a font of lore and spewed the bits that would become our new stories. It was easy to buy the failed alcoholic obese lawyer who was relying some early music career internships to start a life of Hollywood contacts that came with insider dirt. An, of course, some of the most painfully bad and confusing writing that exists obfuscating most of the content.

I love the blind about Joan Collins getting wig ripped off during sex.

During the first few years, CDAN was a lot of fun. More lighthearted, and some of the original regular posters were very funny. A few claimed to be old-Hollywood residents with some good gossip. I left shortly after the Himmmm stuff blew up, when he (RDJ??) claimed that Natalie Wood’s daughter (whose name escapes me ATM) had given him permission just that afternoon to claim that Kirk Douglas had raped her mother decades before. Maybe there’s truth to that, I don’t know, but the whole site seemed to change and just got weirder. Lots of new posters arrived and then the pedophile obsession began.

We all left at roughly the same time, a few years ago. It just got weird and dumber and dumber and dumber all the time - both the blinds and the posters commenting. For gossip fans they don't seem to know any gossip. The site makes up totally untrue and unbelievable stories and the commenters just throw out names randomly until.... nothing,

Another thing people used to like, totally ruined by right wing cunts.

The regular posters dox the newbies all the time. They just do it subtly . My friend was posting and had a disagreement with the Markle loons and the next few comments all mentioned something to do with his Country. He then rejoined under another name and deliberately provoked someone just to make sure he wasn't being paranoid. They did it again. The comments were removed but it happened. Now no one I know posts on there anymore because it is just too weird and rightwing.

R45 The triple parentheses were ironic. Actually, the site hasn't ever made some direct anti-Semitic attack, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the two new main targets, who've replaced Harvey Weinstein as regulars, are Spielberg and Geffen. It plays well with the QAnon crowd without making it explicit. Also, there are commenters who definitely write on a regular base anti-Semitic or white supremacist stuff. As least one of them is in good standing there.

The Spielberg stuff is particularly ridiculous, and it even made the filmmakers from An Open Secret take their distances from the site about the repeated Heather O'Rourke claims, while they previously shared an agenda. We're talking "Vic Morrow's death during production of The Twilight Zone was a murder to prevent him from talking of the child trafficking he had witnessed on the set" territories of bullshit.

It was also something connected to Spielberg that made me go wild. Until then, I had kept on reading the site occasionally, I had realized it had drifted towards alt-right territories, but I was merely curious about how far they could go. And then they posted this blind item about Spielberg's good buddy who had raped a ton of kids and teens over the years, and was one of the worst monsters in film history. It was Stanley Kubrick, one of my favorite directors, and it was obviously written by somebody who knew shit about his work or his life. Kubrick had used Sue Lyon ( from Lolita) as a scout to bring him underage friends for years? Lyon was living in the US, while Kubrick had already moved to the UK. He'd use casting as an opportunity to rape actresses? He did Full Metal Jacket, where there must be something like three female parts, all very minor (not to speak of Paths of Glory). His daughter brought 7 and 8-year-old friends on the set of 2001, whom Kubrick would then film while he was raping them? Excuse me, this is Stanley "Mr. OCD" Kubrick we're talking about, the guy who'd do a dozen takes of any shot and who would never let any child near a prop or a movie set. Etc.

The site argues that Spielberg and Geffen have often had people killed, in the name of protecting their child molestation ring. If so, why can't they even shot down a gossip blog that would spill the truth about them? That's the kind of stuff that the readers never even bother to address. They want to believe, and they dismiss all common sense, just because these stories make them feel better.

R55 Talley Griffith still has a MySpace page. At some point, during the mid-00s, he had started a band, which had allowed him to play at some festivals around Virginia and to meet backstage some of the headliners. So he had a picture of him posing next to Elvis Costello or Emmylou Harris. He also had a lot of pictures of Courtney Brooke Wagner (Natalie Wood's daughter), which he depicted as a close friend of his. All the pictures were taken from the web, I'm not sure he has even met her in person. Actually, he seems to have an obsession with Natalie Wood that carries over to her daughters. When Natacha Gregson Wagner did a film with RDJ (one of the celebrities Griffith identifies with), the obsession may have reached stalker level, as "Himmmm" even posted her phone number at some point in the comments for a thread, to prove that he knew her well.

The landline number was actually featured in the white pages. Gregson Wagner simply wasn't unlisted.

At least, Himmmm, like "Dancing Boy", isn't politically slanted, unlike most of the content posted now.

R59 I actually called the number.

R57 The Meghan Markle stuff is out of this world... or any logic.

First, she was an actress on a minor show, but she was powerful enough to get cast members fired. But most of her income still came from yachting, because she's definitely a whore.

So, she seduces Harry, takes him away from all his real friends (because Harry is weak and has no opinion on his own), and marries him, because her actual goal is to get all the secrets from the Royal family and to make money from it, by being the hidden source to a tell-all manuscript used to blackmail the whole family.

She was never pregnant, as she definitely had her son through a surrogate, but she still gained weight from the pregnancy, because that happens to all fat cows like her, as she can't hide her inner ugliness anymore.

Now, she plans to have coke parties in New York, and she's lost weight because of the coke, which also explains her ugly crooked noise, but she's still the fat cow.

From the blinds, and the comments, it appears to me that the readers are mostly middle-aged housewives who had a crush on Prince Hot Ginge (yeah, I'm mostly a Dlisted reader). Harry was the Christian Grey they pictured while reading the books and pleasuring themselves. When he marries an American, they are jealous of her, and her mixed ethnicity doesn't help (we're talking about birther levels of revulsion), so she must be a gold digger and the worst thing to happen to British royalty in a millennium. Anyway, I'd be curious to have a glimpse at the many size 0 models who feel entitled to call her a cow.

He thinks Marisa Tomei is a drunk.

R47 (and many others) There's still some gossip and blind items there, except that the content is extremely generic. You have some blinds that merely rely on speculation after there's an incident involving the antics of a celebrity (90% of the time, the implication is that the celebrity is back to using). Or, else, you have a revolving door of reliable celebrities (Lohan, Bieber, Courtney Stodden, Backdoor Farrah, any Kardashian or Real Housewife, etc.) where the piece is basically Mad Libs. Lohan's latest escorting gig turned nasty, etc.

These pieces are still needed to make it look like a real gossip site. When one of these blinds occasionally turns out to be true (mostly the speculative ones), Enty takes credit for it, and the readers add it to the track record, as it gives more weight to the other blinds, the political ones. And it's a good way to lure in new, younger readers (there's been lately a ton of stuff on K-pop and Instagrammers).

Nobody would admit they're on a political propaganda site. They're more comfortable if there's still a celebrity gossip front, as they can at least assume they're just average people who enjoy gossip, not political extremists who are looking for a way to destroy the reputation of their opponents.

Anyway, when your publish for months the blind items from a supposed "insider", Dancing Boy, an alleged molestation victim when he was a teen dancer or actor, who turn out to be a diary of the sexual fantasies of someone with some serious issues, that means that your real sources are non-existent. Enty, and his providers for blinds, have zero access to the real events. At best, they just put together some pieces based on stuff they've noticed in the press and they add some emphasis and made up details to make it look like they were actually there or knew somebody who was a direct witness.

The site had so many pop ups and click bait it became unreadable.

He seems to have backed off De Niro, which is interesting. He hasn't published a blind item on him in a while. Wonder if he got contacted by certain people or is afraid of slander.

Angela, I think he already know this stuff. Coming on a different site to bash a site you contribute to is just odd and seems attention-seeking.

R65, then why give "Angela" attention by posting in this thread?

[R66], mea culpa. I probably shouldn't have posted.

[quote]So what you are saying is CDAN is an alt-right takedown site disguised as a blind gossip site?

CDAN, An Open Secret, AJ Benza, etc. They're all part of the same right wing, Hollywood hating, pedophilia obsessed bunch of idiots.

I personally stopped reading CDAN when all of his "blinds" were just rehashes of things that were already published, whether real news or rumor. Especially when he does his blind on the same day a story was published in the news. And some of them make no sense at all. I have noticed that the traffic must be going down on that site because he doesn't generate nearly as many responses to his posts as it used to be.

CDAN promotes obvious conspiracy bullshit. Now the breathless OP shows up to claim that CDAN itself is a conspiracy. Either might be true, but a close reading of CDAN is not going to reveal anything except your own predilection for conspiracy theories.

What “Enty” has failed to identify, is that the majority of people who read celebrity gossip, including celebrities themselves, aren’t going to believe that everyone in HW is a pedophile. And it’s always curious timing when as soon as a celebrity or politician speaks negatively of Trump, they’re instantly featured as pederasts on CDAN.

Ultimately, it’s obvious that there’s a political driven agenda to the smear campaigns, and the material quickly becomes boring, and expected.

No one with two brain cells left is going to believe any of that shit.

aj benza hates Trump though so I doubt he is alt right. Trump humiliated him on Howard Stern.

[quote]When you think about it, her entire mornings must be built around the automated schedule of a gossip blog every day of the year.

And when she's not obsessively refreshing CDAN, she probably spends the rest of her time on Twitter and the Q sites. Fucking weirdo, for sure.

Vvvvvv

Is Tricia a "yachter?"

R74 lol Angela why do you think they started removing comments and monitoring the blinds. They didn't give a shit before. Do you think it was a way to control the narrative or just to protect the site from being sued?

So now Brad Pitt is fucking Kourtney Karda$hian. And Tom Welling is recruiting actresses for Chloe Sullivan's cult now that he's playing Superman again 🤨

[quote]The regular posters dox the newbies all the time.

That's so fucked up. It's really amazing how those idiots fall for Enty's every bullshit item, even though the site clearly says that it's all basically made up. The only inside info Enty might have access to is regarding the Real Housewives.

I think he also has a subscription to Lexus/Nexus and uses it for news that isn't widely covered. There was an item about, I think, Sylvester Stallone and a police investigation in Las Vegas. It was a blind item that was revealed when it seemingly hit the media. One of the commenters, who lived in Baltimore, called Enty out because the story naming Stallone actually ran in a local Baltimore paper three days before Enty's blind. It just took a few days for the story to gain traction in the broader media.

Isn't one of the Himmms a member of INXS?

R65 Enty may have slowed down on the De Niro blinds because a few of them were egregious wish fulfillment for the alt-right, like the one about De Niro hanging out with Roman Polanski during production of Taxi Driver where they would have sex with underage girls. Polanski was apparently in Europe or in L.A. at the time. And if you read, for instance, the Peter Biskind book, Easy Riders Raging Bull, De Niro in those days was extremely self-effacing up until the point people would wonder if he was on the spectrum.

And, for the record, Angela is an alias I had only used on CDAN. I'm not trying to be an attention hog, I don't think that most of what I can say is news to you. I'm just trying to share here a few more pieces of the puzzle, so somebody else can work from that the same way a lot of the threads over the years here about CDAN have been very helpful to me.

R64 R68 CDAN had a dwindling traffic until two years ago. At some point, the site moved away from their old host, Blogger, to their own platform. It was a nightmare in terms of design and readability, which is when I gave up trying to read it. Many people did the same. Around 2016-2017, it went back to Blogger but kept on sliding towards irrelevance. It went through various phases. At one point, there were dozens of incest-related blinds, then it was about the secret madams in Hollywood, and then the yacht girls.

And then the Weinstein scandal broke through. It gave validation to a lot of blind items published on gossip blogs. Due to the sheer number published on CDAN (even if most of them were tame and generic, focusing more on the casting couch aspect), Enty got a lot credit from this, and it drove the number of readers up. My guess is that, after this surge, Enty realized he needed something bigger to stay relevant, so he decided to push Weinstein II: Electric Boogaloo, where the key players would be bigger celebrities such as Steven Spielberg and David Geffen, and the crime would be raping kids.

It allowed Enty to move to the next level and start a Patreon where 4,000 to 5,000 people pay $5 a month to get a weekly podcast that will make a lot of reveals about child molestation.

Yet, traffic had started again to slow down, until last month and the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein, another scandal that Enty is once again trying to spin for his own benefit. It has kept the stats flat at worst.

He lost me at the Dalai Lama BS.

"I'm as gay as a daffodil (which would also mean that I'm a pervert)."

Fuck off, homophobe.

OP, or “Angela”, perhaps I’m only speaking for myself, but I find that some of us here are just turned off by the constant conspiracy theory blind items. I’ve perused sites such as Lipstick Alley, & while Lipstick Alley can be funny as all get out, I’m ultimately turned off by the lack of critical thinking offered by regulars there. Same thing with CDAN.

These forums are like an extension of FOX News: “The Entertainment Editions”.

The formula obviously works for clicks, but personally, I cannot trudge through that heap of BS.

R72 R74 I'm not 100% sure, but I remember that Tricia was a co-host for at least one episode of Enty's podcast. He may well have offered her this, in exchange for all the help she's provided over the years, or she may have paid $250 at least once to be on the top tier of the patrons for the podcast, the ones who get to co-host in exchange.

She's actually not even very talented at these games and she needs a few easy wins such as a daily Lindsay Lohan or Meghan Markle blind item where you just need to read the first line to get it. A few weeks ago, there was a blind item about a partnership between an A-list actor and the heir of a media empire, while they have totally different political views. Tricia's guess (on the very minute the blind was posted) was "Clooney". Everybody else had heard about the deal on the Tribeca Film Festival between De Niro and Jaime Murdoch. Then, one hour later, Tricia returns and adds (which is in line with previously know information she had mentioned) that her sister (who is apparently some lawyer in NY) actually worked on the deal. She doesn't give a fuck about De Niro unless it's to put crimes on him. Even with some direct insider information, she simply couldn't make the connections.

Tricia has obvious mental issues, but she's not even the worst. I'd give that title to Astra Worthington, a commenter who routinely develops white supremacist theories. I don't usually wish anything bad on people, but if there was somebody for whom I'd pray a slow death from colorectal cancer, it would be her. But sometimes I think that even colorectal cancer doesn't deserve to have to deal with a total cunt such as her.

R75 A few weeks ago, Tricia ended up being doxxed by someone obsessed with her popularity on the blog, who revealed her full name and posted a link to her mugshot (for some shit she had done while intoxicated, which must be the Florida equivalent of getting your driving license). To prevent the stalker from doing more harm to her, Enty started to "moderate" the comments. It didn't last that long on a continuous base, but this week, there has still been a couple of times where comments had to be approved before they would appear on the page.

As you can surely guess, the site has about as many talented mods as fact-checkers, ie. none. Enty would just scrub away posts by the stalker and a few of his sock puppet accounts, which delayed publishing of the comments by hours. And the result was also that he would technically give his seal of approval to some blatantly racist posts or calls to murder. And if there's something Enty is great at, it's not taking responsibilities, so moderation would never be a longterm solution.

R69 R83 I don't think that there's a proper conspiracy at work at CDAN. For a conspiracy, you need conspirers, people who actively coordinate towards a common goal. I just think that the site decided over the years to cater to a crowd of readers and commenters who was already there, either because the real owners of the site wanted this or because Enty noticed on his own that it was easier to give them what they wanted.

Sure, there have been times where the site has openly pushed an alt-right agenda, for instance when it published last year a dozen of blind items that validated the campaign on 4chan against James Gunn and Dan Harmon, claiming that they were extremely active pedophiles (yes, yes, it gets repetitive. A lot). And at least a recent blind item was just a rephrasing of a piece published in Breitbart. But most of the time, it's just some loose cross-referencing, to be a part of the network of sources that the readers can "trust". There's no blatant propaganda, the site won't reprint everything posted by QAnon, but Enty knows that the audience will be ecstatic if he posts something on Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein for instance.

Remember the Sons of Anarchy tv show? It was a huge hit on FX. Maybe their largest ever. At some point, they did studies to explain that popularity. They realized that their core audience wasn't made of younger males who liked that edgy show (people who had enjoyed The Shield that had some of the same writers), there was a surprisingly high proportion of middle-aged women who loved spending time every week with some hot tattooed bad boy biker. And that's how they had to deliver regularly sex scenes that showed Charlie Hunnam's ass.

My conspiracy "theory" on CDAN is similar. The site just tapped out on an underestimated audience and took advantage of their weak points.

R82 In the quote you made, I was definitely not expressing my views, I was just describing some of the attacks I've faced just because I have a woman's name as an alias, even if I'm male (and I've consistently stated so). For some people, it's a sign that I must be a closeted gay or a crossdresser. By the way, "gay as a daffodil" is a Freddie Mercury quote.

The truth is that I was too lazy to spend two minutes to edit the alias or to start a new account on Blogger.

The "pervert" part was more about the views expressed by the readers, and often by the site itself. When some actor is suspected to be a closeted gay, there will be a series of blind items stating how ridiculous his efforts to have a beard are. That is more or less the Ted Casablancas school. But when a male celebrity is out, it doesn't take much effort to try to connect him to the "disgraced director", as the celebrity, just by being gay, is supposed to have crossed paths and attended the same parties as Bryan Singer. And, according to blind items posted by the site, Will Smith is being blackmailed for having sex with underage boys, when George Clooney crashed his motorcycle, it was in connection with a minor who was his fuck boy, then died in mysterious circumstances shortly afterwards, etc.

And, of course, there's all the David Geffen material. I know mostly Geffen to be this asshole music manager and head of a label (and most of these guys are indeed assholes or have made a lot of enemies over the year). Geffen was also one of the first major executives in the entertainment industry to come out as gay, in 1992, and he was the target of Michael Ovitz' accusations of playing an instrumental part in the "Gay Mafia" that destroyed Ovitz' career. (As if making bets with other agents on whether he could turn his martial arts instructor into a movie star were not signs that Ovitz was coked out of his mind. He's the one you can blame for the career of Steven Seagal.)

Geffen is a prominent liberal who's responsible for a lot of fundraisers supporting Democratic candidates. He's been already targeted by the filmmakers of An Open Secret, because of his connections with Bryan Singer and Marc Collins-Rector. But CDAN has simply turned him into a boogeyman, the ringmaster for child trafficking in Hollywood, along with his former business partner Steven Spielberg (who is, according to the blinds, into little girls, while Geffen would only consider boys). For the people behind CDAN, and the core readers, it's never a surprise that somebody gay is also a pedophile. And, in Geffen's case, even somebody who's ready to have a lot of people killed to keep his secret.

The insanity about this is so high that the site even transformed Leaving Neverland into an anti-Geffen fest. See (and I'm using again the free indirect speech, I'm not stating my views), after the doc, HBO aired a special hosted by Oprah, who interviewed the two victims and their families. Oprah has spent time on Geffen's yacht, so it naturally means that it was Geffen who was behind the whole project, to depict wrongly Michael Jackson as a pedophile and a monster, sacrificing him to be the scapegoat in the industry for child molestation. The implications are also that Geffen raped Jackson when he was just a teen. Of course, there's no concrete connection between the production of the documentary and Geffen, but that's how the site operates. There's now regularly blind items involving at least three or four people in a pool consisting of Geffen, Oprah, Weinstein (she was photographed at parties with him), Gayle King, Bryan Singer and Jeffrey Epstein.

My guess is that Enty, or whoever the source for these Geffen stories is, basically realized that the Michael Jackson fans were extremely angry about the documentary and decided to channel their anger into hatred for Geffen (and support for the site). For me, there's a possibility that some deranged fan would try at some point to get Geffen killed, especially if they read everything posted on him at CDAN

The traffic has died down, partly due to my overlong posts, so I guess it's a wrap. Thanks everybody. Despite a few requisite misunderstandings, the conversation remained polite and constructive.

I didn't have any opportunity to add a few nuggets on "Himmmm". For instance, how this scumbag exploited the Virginia Tech shooting as an opportunity to promote his album in 2007 (it was before his involvement with CDAN). Or how one of his last major blind items, the one about the extremely secret project on a former porn star that Christopher Nolan was attached to, with almost every A-lister fighting for a part, was definitely about a crappy script of his that he was trying to pimp. But I've already overstayed my welcome in that thread.

Now that I have an account here, I'll try to contribute here and there (especially if there's another thread on that place), but I'm actually French, so I'm not that familiar with a lot of topics on this site. It was also instructive to me that nobody here had noticed me from CDAN, while I had assumed I was enough of a party pooper there to catch some attention.

Just do everyone here a favor and not drag CDAN commenters here with you. This is a place for gay (and gay allies) to gather in relative peace.

R89 They wouldn't last for 15 minutes here. It's quite ironic when I see them mocking liberals, because if there are people really in need of a safe space where their feelings (and beliefs) won't be hurt, it's them.

Anyway, I won't even allude to this thread there.

It has been interesting reading your comments even though I rarely peruse CDAN, and had heard a bit about Himmmm, because I met Robert Downey Jr. when he was down and out at the Chateau Marmont. He was really charming and friendly. (This was probably around 1997 when Bob Dylan played at the El Rey.)

R91 I don't doubt it. Talley Griffith may have also spent some time on the L.A. scene around those times. He had directed in Virginia an amateur low budget thriller a few years ago (his sole IMDb credit), and he sold in 1998 a pitch for a high-concept actioneer to Warner Bros. My guess is that, just like you were able to catch a glimpse of RDJ and probably a few other people who are now huge stars, he was able to cross paths in those years with a lot of people he became fascinated with, and on whom he projects some of his own life, as role models or references.

When you look at them objectively, the stories he has posted as "Himmmm" are quite poorly written. They're meandering, they're full of humblebrags, they use exhausted tropes borrowed from superior books or movies, the four men supposed to be "Himmmm" share the same personality, they're basically all frat boys who try to pose as sensitive. And all the "big" tales always take place around 1995-2000, which are definitely his heydays. What they do have, compared to his other attempts at blind items, is conviction. He really tries to walk a mile in their shoes, and the pseudo-recollections are vivid. Because it's obvious that Griffith sees a lot of himself in RDJ, Paul Thomas Anderson, Kiefer Sutherland (the spurned lover. I can't thank Datalounge enough for the collective work on the Aris Blane/Jessilynn saga), with the fourth guy being Brad Arnold from 3 Doors Down (R79, Himmmm wrote a blind item about witnessing an INXS show). In some way, they tell more about his actual personality and his aspirations than about the era or the celebrity he impersonates.

I remember you, Angela. They don't like your opion very much on there do they?

And now Talley Griffith has passed at the same time Enty announced 'one of the himmmm's' has passed away, also.

I hate the constant dumb lies about any actor or actress who speaks out against trump. And the even dumber posters who automatically name the same Democratic actors/actresses every time as their guesses.

If I feel like reading them, ASG Blind Items does a good job of gathering them. And no dumb comments.

I was pretty active on CDAN but left a long time ago and came here.

R93 From all the elements uncovered here at Datalounge over the years and my own conclusions, Talley Griffith was the one and only Himmmm. He had a brief shot at a Hollywood career around 1998 (he had sold a pitch to Warner), but spent most of his life in Virginia, using various online personas and most likely fighting a heroine or morphine addiction. He definitely wrote his IMDb bio, and there is also evidence and reports that he tried to pose as a Hollywood bigwig either to embezzle money or to hit on women.

Regardless of their flaws (or the Natalie Wood/Robert Wagner stuff that was literally stalking Wood's relatives), most of Himmmm's stories displayed some kind of positivity and optimism that made us eager to embrace them, whether they were true or false. They were full of enthusiasm, thrills and appetite. Compared to the darker material and criminal accusations that later became the norm on CDAN, his stories were mostly about what a thrill it is to be alive and to experience all of this. That also what made them so seductive and compelling. Even if he wasn't a firsthand witness and the events most likely never happened this way, his stories made you feel as if you had took part in the best seat possible to the events he was describing.

R93 At least two CDAN posters have tried to blame me for his death, mostly because of stuff that was common knowledge on the Internet years before I had my short conversation with Griffith as "Himmmm". The guy was an addict, who tended to write on addiction. It's sad but true. Griffith had even "revealed" that all vampire fiction is actually a metaphor for heroin, not for sex. And this is the same bunch who's happy to believe and parrot any disgusting dirt they hear on celebrities on a daily base, as they find nothing wrong or consequential with accusing somebody of murder or rape.

R93 Last year, I sent (not under "Angela" of course) a mail to the AGC Webpages owner. The reply showed me that she's a firm Enty believer and is pretty sure that the track record from CDAN is indeed great. She didn't find anything wrong with the recent turn towards political blinds, for instance.

CDAN once accused a producer of raping an actor on set (surprise! The producer had dissed Trump a few days before.)

I worked on the movie in question and thought it was fucking hillarious because the supposedly victimized actor was constantly and agressively hitting on the crew. He's literally the worst letch on Earth. The, apparently rapey, producer was actually the one who put a stop to it. In very short order I might add.

Enty really fucking hates gay men.

And no not naming names because that blind doesn't need to be dug up again.

You know what, it's been years since I read the CDAN site, but I finally had a few memory cells come together and I remember you Angela (I'm old and take too many sleeping pills). Although I've already posted on this thread I'll say nice to meet you. Thanks for verifying what you have; a little bit of sanity in this crazy world.

R98 Typically, someone just sent him the blind and he reposted it. Whether the source is a Trumper or someone who just knows Enty will publish anything, especially if it targets a Trump hater, they know that it will work. And the readers are happy. Don't you know how disappointed and suicidal the readers would be if they heard that there aren't as many child raping in Hollywood as they assume?

R99 Thanks. I'll try to stay the sand in their swimsuits, itching their urethra until they give up rubbing it.

R96 Angela, thanks for your contribution and for replying to my post. I agree with your summation. I only joined the site in 2017 and after a while, I began to notice things that were over the top and inauthentic. And with Himmm I did believe it for a while and then I saw a lot of inconsistencies in the stories and the poster often got carried away and posted way over the top content as well as stories and pictures he claimed were from a private collection that were easily obtainable from the internet. He said he was the co-writer on a certain Lynch movie and my friend is a hardcore fan, (she knew where he eats breakfast everyday too, btw!) and she called out some bullshit the posted about his involvement on the movie. I began to suspect that the himmm was fake and I saw some stuff online about him being exposed as Talley Griffith. I do not know who exposed him first or who was involved that far back, I just saw some of your posts on CDAN and people bashing you for your posts. I did not bother trying to convince anyone of my theory or arguing about it because a lot are resistant to their fantasies being smashed. People will come to their own conclusions naturally, and if not -it is their lookout. I do not blame him solely, I think he was asked to do that by Enty. I have no knowledge about catfishing women, I hope that is not true. I do feel empathy for any person who had demons and felt the only way out is through death and I feel sorry for those who cared for him, he had a partner he met on the site, I believe? But at the same time, people cannot be blamed for speculating or for researching when he put themselves out there like that and claimed he was a famous person. And if people are catfishing it is going to be called out, too. You cannot be blamed if a person is feeling suicidal because there are deep-rooted causes as we all know.

R98 Thanks for your story and I can well believe it. CDAN is a conspiracy theory site and I think Enty spends his days trawling around sites like this one and getting his information there. He may have some tipsters but a lawyer he is not. I wonder where he gets time to actually work when he is posting all day and making a podcast. I think CDAN creates this image of Hollywood as a cesspit full of paedophilia and everyone is a rapist. I became acquainted with a person last year who has a huge connection to a certain famous person in Hollywood ( I cannot say who, I am afraid) but Enty posted lies about him and him doing things in a certain country when the person was half a mile down the road from his friend at the time. Yes, I do think he hates gay people. His stories are inconsistent - one minute a person is gay then they're using the casting couch for females or abusing a woman.

R101 A few months ago, there was a poster who was just there to warn people against Griffith, telling repeatedly the same story about him using fake Hollywood credentials to embezzle money or get in touch with women. I don't remember the details, and the allegations were vague. I pressed the person for relevant details, not generic accusations that could be libel. But it wasn't an angry reader, just somebody who had been in touch or knew somebody who had been in touch with "Himmmm" in some other capacity (presumably online).

I had missed the Lynch story, but a few Google searches showed me that Himmmm claimed to have worked on the production of Mulholland Dr., even taking credit for introducing Naomi Watts to Lynch. He explained that the film was based on the real life lesbian relationship between Watts and Nicole Kidman. Which, as your friend will confirm, makes zero sense, given that Mulholland Dr. was originally a TV pilot and that the lesbian scenes were added months later, when French studio Studiocanal offered Lynch to shoot more scenes to turn it into a standalone feature film. Himmm also claimed to be the one who had cracked the structure to Jackie Brown from a 225 page script (Twitter, July 2018). Also made no sense, as it's the only Tarantino film that's an adaptation, from a quite short Elmore Leonard novel.

Other fake stories: – He wasn't related to two Hollywood legends, director D.W. Griffith and actor Andy Griffith (he suggested that he was his nephew). Andy Griffith was an only son, and no biography has found any link between D.W. and Andy. The very fact that people ate that story up without any second guess (or just a simple Wikipedia check) is quite telling. – He claimed to be friends with Courtney Brooke Wagner. People found that he had just put on his MySpace page pictures from other websites or tried to photoshop himself into some of these pictures (I haven't seen these attempts). – He was never at Hollywood at full time. Griffith indeed sold a pitch for an action movie to Warner Bros in 1998, with Renny Harlin attached (the project was never developed). The pitch was something he talked with a producer he had met at a screenwriting seminar. But, even then, he would still spend time in Virginia, where he had a girlfriend or wife and two daughters. He apparently joined the Army after 9/11, and after he left the military, there's no online trace of a Talley Griffith doing anything in Hollywood or in California.

I don't want to dig into his family (who needs privacy and closure, especially now), but I can say that his obituary at the funeral home used pictures from at least 15 years ago. When I searched about him a year ago (I was considering informing Paul Thomas Anderson about the identity theft), I saw a much more recent picture published in a local newspaper at some school related event, which showed a gaunt man, looking more 65 than 45, almost a John Waters lookalike. And there was the 2008 indictment for prescription fraud. I guess he struggled most of his life with addictions, most likely morphine or heroin (which were often referred to in his comments), and there couldn't be any way of letting him go back to Los Angeles. All the Himmmm stuff was the fiction of someone fascinated by Hollywood, who wanted to be there, who had indeed been briefly there, and who had picked a few people from his age group that he regarded as models or his peers in talent, if some circumstances hadn't come out. What he wrote was basically his way of escaping reality and imagining for himself the career the "four Himmmms" had followed.

You know Angela, I really like how you have humanised TG. I should be so lucky to have someone like you write up my obituary.

Interesting information, Angela. Thanks for sharing. I never heard the Mulholland Drive one, but there were so many stories that I lost count. I am sure my friend would know about that. With every person who just blindly believes what they hear, there are also people out there with the knowledge about the industry, whether they work there or know people that do- or hardcore fans who have researched a lot and can spot the lies. Or maybe they do not care. There are always people drinking the kool-aid and they can just say the non-believers are just nasty or cynical. No, some of us just do not like con artists. I have some more things I could tell you but I'd rather not here! But it was interesting nevertheless.

Angela what was the deal with the "Dancing Boy" posts? No one seemed to know what was going on there.

R103 Himmmm indeed bothered me much less than the blind devotion of most of the readers on every word of his blind items, even the unreadable ones. He tried at some point (when he returned to CDAN, around 2016 or 2017) to stick with the new tone and to provide blinds involving child molestation and liberal figures. This resulted in particular in the blind item about the imminent arrest of Don Henley, as the investigation about the 1980 "incident" was supposed to be reopened, with heavier charges brought by a new DA. But he couldn't really adjust to the expectations of the readers, and he would give a ton of unnecessary (and contradictory) details. That was one of the few times one of his stories was openly challenged.

I'm pretty sure he provided CDAN over the years with much more than the material under his name. He was the likely source for most of the rock-related gossip even before he started to be credited as "Himmmm". And during the 2012-2017 hiatus, there was still a ton of Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner stories that were one of his pet peeves. But I guess his most noticeable contribution is also the one that takes a much sadder meaning now.

When Chris Cornell died, he blamed his second wife for actually murdering him (which was the reason for the scrutiny on his posts from the Soundgarden fans at several boards). Himmmm was also most likely the original champion at CDAN of the "Courtney Love killed Kurt" theory. In both cases, they were musicians Griffith adored, and he couldn't simply consider the possibility that they were suffering from addiction and depression. From my own experience with a few of them, this kind of denial is common among addicts (especially the blame it all on a scapegoat thing), but this now takes a different light if he was probably fighting the very same demons in his life.

In any case, I try to remember that this person was a human, most likely extremely flawed, but not a boogeyman or a monster. In a nutshell, that's the thing that makes me sick at this place, and in current politics in general. The readers at CDAN just ask for validation of their existing prejudice. It wasn't like that in the early days. Sure, the site would repeatedly treat some celebrities with ridicule (with much less snark and inventiveness than what was written on the good celebrity blogs) , but it was long before it started to dabble with heavy shit. Now, it's just taking someone who is in the news, preferably for any anti-Trump rant, and accusing him with the most disgusting crime possible, generally child molestation, and from then on, this is full verbal lynching for anything the celebrity does or says. They just need an excuse to unleash their anger.

R105 "Dancing Boy" was originally a reader who had submitted a recollection of the sexual assault he had endured in the 80s as a child model/actor during a scene where he was suddenly asked to dance in his underwear by a director who then tried to rape him. The recollection got a lot of reactions and he got a slot as a guest writer there. He started by sharing similar stories that had happened to him and mentioned that he was trying to put together a script about his experiences.

The stories quickly died out, as he would write on totally mundane things, like the famous alumni at his high school (people he had never actually met) but they took a weird turn when they became an excuse to elaborate on his own sexual fantasies, that actually included the boy who had been raped by Victor Salva. Even the readers at CDAN became dismissive of these stories and started to joke about them every time there was a new post involving Dancing Boy. "Dancing Boy" (his real name was quickly found by others) even complained after a break of several weeks that the previous post carrying his name came from an imposter (the post was of course never deleted).

It's hard to say if he's an actual victim of abuse or assault or if he invented even that. In any case, he has obvious mental issues, being obsessed by fame and attention, and the guy needs help. The real mystery is why Enty didn't pull the plug and let Dancing Boy write about his erotic dreams, given the cold reception and the sarcasm each post would get. The posts only stopped around October 2018, and DB returned last month for a secondhand story about impropriate behavior during production of the third season of Stranger Things.

R106 I remember the blind about the imminent arrest of Don Henley. Yes, it was challenged but nothing ever came of it. And yet people still believe. There are so many other awfully fictitious and over-the-top blinds and some that dead people are unable to respond to. The giveaway of RDJ being a Himmmm was a good hoax, but not that good. The 'good people' list in Hollywood was done purposefully to lead back to him. Susan Downey? Duh. Anyone trying to keep their identity a secret would not give any type of clues, not to mention the huge amount of clues he'd drop in twitter about the other Himmms. Did you know who they were supposed to be? Unfortunately, he blabbed to some women privately and then some of those women would blab to others and their friends and well, one of them was the most outlandish of all, a fictitious creation which was probably done to cover anyone trying to research him.

R108 The four main "Himmmm"s were:

- Robert Downey Jr, the lost addict turned biggest star in the world. In the Himmmm tales, he was this good bro, who looked back to his crazy years with some fondness.

- Paul Thomas Anderson, the acclaimed filmmaker, who had grown up in the industry, an indie writer-director who was in the same age range as Griffith. In the Himmmm tales, he was a shy bro who was obsessed by Jaime Pressly and her ass. Basically, Griffith had stuck with the image he had of him when Boogie Nights was released and hadn't noticed any development in his art ever since.

– Kiefer Sutherland, for his history with Julia Roberts (she cancelled their wedding a few days before it was supposed to take place). In the Himmmm universe, he was the romantic bro, who had been turned into a boozer by this shrill woman. This mirrored closely a persona Griffith had developed before starting the Himmmm stories, Aris Blane (the fictional name of his co-editor on his amateur film). Aris Blane was apparently his dating profile alter ego, where he posed as the cool guy who was left a mess after the true love of his life, Jessilynn, died in a car accident/killed herself after being raped/cheated on him with other dudes (somebody at Gossip Rocks had managed to list all the versions and crack the lies as soon as 2012), pushing him to do drugs.

- Maybe Brad Arnold, the lead singer from 3 Doors Down. I don't listen to them and I have no clue about the guy, but Griffith used at one point an e-mail address like 3DoorBrad. Most likely another bro, who enjoys cool music and got a lot of access backstage.

And, of course, there was a fictional and successful version of Talley Griffith, film executive connected with Legendary Pictures (the Dark Knight trilogy, Man of Steel, Jurassic World, Pacific Rim, 300...). The guy who also had a hand in several projects by David Lynch or Quentin Tarantino or in Man of Steel. In the CDAN comments around 2010-2012, Himmmm would offer people interested to contact him at the 3DoorBrad address and mentioned his behind the scenes work on a few blockbusters. Of course, it's in line with the claims from his IMDb bio, where he was an original partner of both Legendary Pictures and Anonymous Content. He actually name-dropped Steve Golin, the head of Anonymous Content in the bio. Golin died last April from cancer, and was apparently an extremely revered figure in the industry. Himmmm, who was then active on his Twitter account, didn't even comment on the news.

If you have anything on his other suspected split personalities, we can add that for completion sake, but I think that we already have the gist of it.

I had an interesting interaction last year with himmmm via his Twitter account. He had posted that long blind about Talitha Getty and supposedly his mother (AKA strong woman). The blind said that he had family members in the state department and the Sicilian mafia and that they had arranged for the kidnapping of Talitha’s son as payback for the supposed murder of Talitha. He had mentioned that there was one particular family member that had directly arranged for the kidnapping and that it was a high up State Department official in Italy at the time. so I had guessed on his thread on Twitter that it was Ambassador Graham Martin. Graham Martin had formerly been the ambassador to Thailand and my family lived in Bangkok during that time and my grandfather worked with him closely. So imagine my surprise when I got a message through Twitter from himmmm saying that you can’t name names on Twitter (which is we all know is bullshit, that’s the whole point) and that I must understand that even though this person was dead that it would cause a shitstorm blah blah blah and then he asked who my grandfather was and I told him. He goes oh my goodness what a small world, yes, that my guess was correct and Ambassasor Martin was his maternal grandfather. So I was pretty shocked and I looked up and found some old family photos of my grandfather with Ambassador Martin and sent them to him. I never heard back. But it got me curious about Ambassador Martin so I looked him up and read his Wikipedia and then looked to see who had contributed to the Wikipedia page and I saw a bunch of corrections from around that same time 2018 and they were deleting negative information about Ambassador Martin and adding positive information. I then looked up what other accounts that same contributor had updated and one was for Steve Ross the former chairman of Time Warner. For a long time when I still believed in himmmm I had actually thought that the main contributor was Mark Ross, Steve Ross’s son, who’s in the music industry. Especially because of that big INXS blind that talked about how his father was the big boss at the label and that he had personally convinced his father to sign the band. Anyway I did a search on the IP address that made those Wiki Corrections and of course it tracks right back to Virginia. I

R110 Mark Ross would indeed be a great guess for the fourth fictional Himmmm, the one I had assumed to be Brad Arnold.

Griffith had been involved with defending the memory of Martin as early as 2007, as shown in an archived version of the Talk section of the Fall of Saigon Wikipedia entry:

"My name is Mr. Talley Griffith. I am the cousin of Ambassador Graham Martin (deceased) and the family representative concerning his legacy and history (and the holder of many of his papers). I spent many years talking with Graham about the "Fall" and living at his residence. I have interviews with him never before published, and represent him (and his story) within contexts of the media and relative to his point of view in historical record. I am also a published author and screenwriter; and a musician who has recently retired from the field of government/military intelligence."

Well, if you state that you are former military intelligence, it generally means that you were never military intelligence. Also, Talley was just 17 at the time Graham Martin died. Maybe his mother was indeed a Martin, which would explain why he may have been allowed in the military in spite of his substances issues, but it seems rather strange that the daughter to a prominent diplomat would live in rural Virginia where his husband operated a small family company.

Ultimately, the angle is quite close to the start of a few Himmmm blind items about Old Hollywood. In many cases, Himmmm would spend time visiting elderly actors or producers, whose memory was as sharp as ever. When they realize that Himmmm genuinely knew a lot of stuff about their career, they would struck a friendship with him, and would regal him for hours with stories they hadn't told anybody. I don't doubt that Griffith was fascinated with Old Hollywood or local celebrities from Virginia and North Carolina, but it's also obvious that he tended to overstate his connections and to make some embellishments.

R109 Angela- I think the four names have been changing over the years and he has told people different things. And Nicole and R110 are on the right wavelength here - I was told by a lady who was chatting privately with Himmmm that he told her the number 1 himmmm (and is the one doing most of the posting and chatting) was Mark Ross' brother (apparently illegitimate and long lost son of Steve Ross). That is why I said fictitious because there is nothing on record about an illegitimate son, but it's clever because nobody can prove it either way. The other three names are PTA, John Taylor, and RDJ. Those were the guest accounts who came on and posted sometime.

Sorry, Angelina. just realized that you are R110.

That's just perfect about Mark Ross's "secret, illegitimate" brother as the correction to the Steve Ross wiki changed the number of children from 3 to 4.

Billie is still the admin at agc? Jesus....she was a troll in the mid 90s, I cannot fathom her now. It tracks, though, that she'd support Trump, bet she still has her aol address.

I've talked to Himmmmm a few times in the DMs. There were holes in his stories, but I liked his creativity

I think this whole story would make a fascinating screenplay. Maybe someone should pitch it to PTA.

Well, there you go, R114. it all comes together. That 's a great idea about the movie. It would be an irony seeing as he was the one named as a Himmmm.

Oh and I've seen you around, R116. The wig guy. lol. Creativity is fine as long as it's clearly labeled as fiction. CDAN is making money from peddling fiction as reality and well, if the catfishing stories are true that is wrong on every level.

My interaction with "Himmmm" took place in the comments about the PTA tale from 2018. Before that, I was already pretty sure he wasn't RDJ (hey, even in 2012, I thought he was at best some assistant who had been in touch with RDJ and moonlighted as him). As I said, I was extremely pissed off about the child molestation and rape allegations inflicted on Stanley Kubrick a few weeks earlier, with all the assholes there promising that they would never watch one of his films again. Yeah, because as Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove and Full Metal Jacket showed it, Kubrick would go at length to have a ton of young actresses in every film he made...

So, I confronted Himmmm, after he received the usual virtual blowjobs from the fans (what a great story, so much humor!, you've captured the characters perfectly!), calling the whole story poorly written and constructed, and second-guessing the talent of the writer and alleged narrator (whom everybody in the story calls a great writer). This was in no way something Paul Thomas Anderson could have contributed to. And I brought up the snark.

First, Himmmm explained that he was another member of the Himmmm collective and that he had written the whole story based on the recollections of the guy who was willing to remain anonymous (oh, yeah...). I fought back, mainly about the obsession in the story over Jaime Pressly's butt (the 1998 edition) or the disparaging description of PTA's then girlfriend, Fiona Apple (“flash in the pan A list singer who defined that heroin chic look of her time”). And that's when Himmmm came up with what he thought was the ultimate putdown.

[italic]A lady once stood at the bookstore counter, ripping hell into the clerk about the new Thomas Pynchon novel. "No way did he write this! I've been reading and studying Pynchon forever! Wrote my doctoral thesis on him! This book reads like a fan wrote it! It's total dog shit!".

The man standing beside the clerk introduced himself: "I'm Thomas Pynchon, nice to meet you."

The lady laughed and snorted: "Bullshit! He'd NEVER have long hair and look or talk like YOU pal! You're some Bronx Hippie". She threw the book down and stormed off outside.

Pynchon looked at the clerk and shrugged: "Another REAL fan of my work, huh? Sure wish I could meet this perfect Pynchon everyone imagines."

[bold]Thomas Pynchon told me that story himself.[/bold][/italic]

When Inherent Vice, based on the Pynchon novel, was released, journalists were warned before the interviews that he wouldn't answer any question about if he had met the reclusive writer. Also, there are pictures of Pynchon from the sixties. He had a very distinctive jawline, weird teeth and large ears. And yet, the "real" Paul Thomas Anderson or a friend of his would spill the beans on meeting him just for the sake of winning an Internet debate with a nobody on a gossip site...

R118 And they would cast Melissa McCarthy as Himmmm, given that she has already done two films on identity theft, including Can You Ever Forgive Me?.

I'm not sure it could make a great film, as almost everything takes place on a computer screen, in written form. The lead character would be some guy in a small house in Virginia typing on his keyboard, trying to live virtually the glorious life he had imagined for himself. There's no visual element to it. Sure, it wouldn't be as bad as the secret "big movie that will be one of those rarities that is both Oscar lure and box office success" that Himmmm had written about in a blind item. Christopher Nolan was allegedly trying to shoot this film with "every A+ list actress/actor in the industry wanting to be a part of it" based on "one of the best scripts to come through Hollywood in decades", about a retired 80s porn actress turned soccer mom and lawyer who faced the mob over her old porn contracts, that would block a billion dollar corporate merger. Sure...

It was definitely a project Himmmm was developing on his own, using CDAN as platform to spread the word around and build buzz.

R119 and R120 . I admire your investigative skills and knowledge, Angela. I do not recall reading that particular blind so I think it was before my time. But I imagine you were the thorn in CDAN's side, I guess they did not expect people with a modicum of intelligence and knowledge to challenge the fakery. .Actually, you make a valid point about the film taking part behind a computer screen. They would have to embellish it considerably to make it more interesting.

Another persona that I think he was trying on was that of Doug Liman. Writer, director, same age range as the others. Himmmm had a lot of posts talking about his powerful family members that were in the government or had mafia connections. Doug Liman's father was the attorney Arthur Liman.

Per Wikipedia: Upon graduation from Yale, Arthur Liman joined the New York City law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison, where he became a partner and where he worked for most of his career. Liman's practice focused on commercial litigation and corporate criminal defense. Clients included Wall Street magnate Michael Milken and media conglomerate Time Warner. (Always those Warners connections!!)

Liman is also well remembered for his role as chief counsel for the Senate's investigation of the Iran-Contra Affair, known as the United States Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition. Liman led the investigation and conducted 40 days of televised hearings before the Senate.

Arthur Liman died on July 17, 1997, in New York City.[1] He was survived by his wife, née Ellen Fogelson, a writer and painter. (Basis for himmmm's fantastical mother?)

Doug Liman directed Swingers written by and starring Jon Favreau who of course, later directed RDJ in Iron Man.

R122 The Nolan blind was from the comeback era, in early 2018. After that, Griffith mostly contributed the four long stories that were supposed to be his farewell to the site. I've attached the link to the reveal, because it includes the names people were supposed to guess in the text, and you can find my comments at the very bottom of the page, when the whole story clicked for me. I re-read it, and Himmmm's point was chiefly that the script was so incredible that it would be a tragedy not to shoot it. With all the nudge nudge (wink wink) stuff involved, the quality of the script would have been overlooked by anyone hearing about such a project and spreading gossip about it. And screenwriting is at the bottom of the food chain anyway. That's the very old joke about the stupid actress. She was so dumb that she fucked the screenwriter.

The "project" had Christopher Nolan, Meryl Streep, Kevin Spacey (before Nolan was interested), Anne Hathaway, Marion Cotillard, Mélanie Laurent, Jennifer Lawrence, Jessica Chastain, Sandra Bullock, Emma Watson, Margot Robbie, Jessica Simpson, Diane Lane, Christian Bale, George Clooney, Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert Downey Jr. all attached or begging to audition. Of course, almost none of these actors (apart from bullock and Lane) match any of the characters described in the blind item, well, more accurately THE character, because there's just the pornstar, with at most two actresses playing her in the two different eras.

Doug Liman is another great guess for a personality. We've now labeled about a dozen different Himmmms. And the really funny thing is that, despite having so many identities, all the Himmmms had the exact same personality.

I enjoyed the girl's story about Mark Ruffalo asking her out for Channing Tatum 😄

I also heard the ID of Mark Ross's mysteriously unknown brother who was born in Keith Richards's bathtub and lived at the Paramour Mansion. I also heard Simon Kinberg of Dark Phoenix as another Himmm and also some music dude called Robert Cavallo.

Anyone got odds on when CDAN readers will start to revolt about being lied to by their lord and savior Enty?

Nah, they enjoy sipping the kool-aid, R125.

This is a great thread. It is a damn shame none of the journalists (with the exception of the New York Post, of all things) who wrote puff pieces about Enty could be bothered to do any investigative work.

Yes, it is true, r127. The real investigative journalists are hack writers and bloggers.

Looks like a couple people on Twitter are getting part of the way there but no big traction. If only Ronan wasn't busy with his book PR, huh? Although I note he does follow Enty.

Actually, given this is AMA--@Angela, how did you come to dig out so much about Griffith? Literally just web research?

I've reached out to a couple of investigative journalists who had written about the site and interviewed Enty without really checking the content. At best, I got a lukewarm reply.

Most of the avid readers don't care about verifying any blind. There are a few village idiots like Tricia, who's ecstatic about winning a ton of chocolate medals for being the first to make any transparent guess, or the dimwits who assume every piece about Netflix being true because the "money-laundering streaming service" is in cahoots with Obama, but for some other people, as it's the case in politics, factual truth simply doesn't matter anymore. They are somewhat aware that the site can be used as a platform to spread disinformation and may even submit some of the blinds themselves.

There is a "truth universally acknowledged", which is that Enty was on the leading edge for Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey and other Hollywood creeps. That's the reputation and the myth that allow Enty to take partial credit for their downfall, and get a lot of attention from regular media, while the truth is that his pieces were mostly rehashes that actually targeted the hypocrite women (Gretchen Mol, Gwyneth Paltrow, etc.) who had supposedly got a big boost for their career from some consensual couch casting with Weinstein over some other rivals.

Every time a blind item gets posted on CDAN, it then gets much more attention than material posted on other gossip blogs, which never really tried to capitalize on the big scandals or to turn blind items into assembly-line work. Maintaining this reputation is important for the avid readers, because every time they have a conversation about Tom Hanks, if he calls for decency, or George Clooney, if he makes a valid observation about the Trump presidency, they don't have to discuss the topic, they can just tell that Hanks is an hypocrite who has a ton of mistresses, some of them even underage, or that Clooney had his boy toy killed in Italy, as written on CDAN, the blog that was right about Weinstein.

And if they post a ton of comments on the politically charged blind items, all of them stating that it's indeed the obvious guess, they hope that more casual readers will embrace the theory due to confirmation bias. That's why I know that if I post some debunk in the early comments, I'm throwing a wrench at their game, and I'll get a lot of heat from the most active turds there. From then, it would be a waste of time to engage with them, but the mere fact of injecting some kind of sense into the conversation may allow somebody to think twice about the story, and to prevent a Trumper from getting their wings.

R131 That is what I was told. The person who recommended CDAN to me said Enty was 'on the money' and the first to break news about Weinstein, etc and this is why I started looking at CDAN. You are right, other sites were posting about it too and I can guarantee that he searches the internet and other gossip sites. A lot of his podcasts are awful. Another friend is, or was, subbed and he told me some of the podcasts, for example, Britney Spears, was factually incorrect. Also, he made a podcast about yachting and he named a certain dead royal as a yacht girl and this person cannot defend herself. Do you think a man who is in charge of a huge yachting business will risk it to tell all to a gossip monger?

Have you considered theorizing about Meghan Markle, r131? You certainly have what it takes.

Just web research, [R130]. I'm just skilled with using Google results, and I'm fond of Old Hollywood and rock music, which was something I had in common with Griffith. All the information I've used is commonly accessible, Gossip Rocks and DL have done a great job putting them in perspective over the years, I've only found a few other pieces and tried to understand the motivation. I did most of the job last year, when Enty would routinely accuse James Gunn or Dan Harmon of being pedophiles, and I used the Himmmm content as a pivot to understand the site and its methods.

I'm attaching the page that was one of my few actual discoveries, and a great look at Griffith's methods. In April 2007, there was a shooting at Virginia Tech, with 33 people killed. People started blogs to pay tribute to the victims. Eight days later, Talley Griffith posted under his own name on one of them, because he was a friend of Reema Samaha and had written and recorded an instrumental as a tribute to her. How well did he know her? Well, he knew that she was a great girl from Lebanese origins who loved music and dance, and music, and well, dance theater. All of this was in her obituaries. Griffith just made up a story about being a friend who had discussed a lot with her. He didn't have a single personal anecdote about her, and he spent actually more time explaining how he had come up with the instrumental, how it got it to be played on local TV and how he received tons of praise from all over the world for this track:

[bold]From Grammy winners who said they were “moved beyond words” and while listening, could feel this girl whom they had never known…to students and families of victims who thanked me for such a heartfelt tribute.[/bold]

Six weeks later, his album was released (digital only). Despite my efforts, I've never managed to find anything posted on the album, like a review, a word of praise, even if it wasn't from a Grammy winner (notice that they come first on his list). Did he even write and record a track for her or did he just change the name of an existing instrumental to take advantage of the tragedy?

I gave CDAN credit for longer than I should have because of the Weinstein affair. What I had forgotten was that I already knew the Weinstein rumors from way back on Ted's Awful Truth. I struggled with the theory of Enty combing other sites for blinds because I thought it was impossible to do that with the volume he puts out every day--along with his "job," of course. And yet it is totally plausible and most likely the truth.

Everything got skeevy to me after that whole True Crime Jen debacle. Honestly, what an embarrassment for anyone who wants to look even mildly professional.... The last two weeks have sealed it for me. His total lack of acknowledgment of the Himmmm account being built on lies speaks volumes about his priorities. The CDAN moneymaker ($$$$s every month from Patreon by my calculator) clearly takes precedence over the admission that the guy who writes blinds outing people who perform coverups to protect their careers is....goshdarnit....performing coverups to protect his career.

Pity the poor folks still checking Twitter everyday for a sad note from Susan Downey Jr about her husband's best friend.

[R134], I've seen that site too. It was another piece that clicked into place when Himmmm told a story on Twitter about how he basically wrote one of the Bourne films based on a time he fell in love with a Lebanese girl.

134 - Interesting! Griffith sounded delusional if you ask me. It's all very bizarre. One thing I forgot to mention was he interacted with Jane Wiedlin on Twitter a little bit and she seemed to know him. I say seemed because she was friendly to him. Her Twitter does not mention his death. And then there was another lady who was somehow connected to Nikki Sixx. When you mention True Crime, this lady outed him Enty and Himmmm, right? Then she flip-flopped and was supporting them again. Do you think Enty knew? I always thought he knew that it was all rubbish.

I've written a couple of times on the Meghan Markle blinds, [R133]. My opinion is that the readership there mostly consists of right-leaning housewives in their 40s or 50s. Quite conservative, watch reality TV without any irony, mostly people who would read tabloids in the UK. It wouldn't be surprising if some of them had crushes on Harry. My totally subjective theory is that some of them had Hot Prince Ginger in mind when they read 50 Shades of Gray and would use their showerhead in the bathtub to pleasure themselves. Then, he marries. An American woman. Who's half-black. Which is naturally some factor for the British crowd who reads the Sun or the Daily Mail, but almost as much for the people who visit CDAN. Her origins may not be mentioned often, but it's obvious that her skin color plays a huge part in the irrational hatred she gets, especially given what happened in your country (I'm French) during the birther movement. To them, Markle can only be somebody of low extraction who slept her way to the top, doing a lot of yachting, and is now turning into a fat cow addicted to cocaine, while she had her child through a surrogate. Their constant need to call her ugly and fat is a clue of female jealousy over her.

R137 - In addition to Wiedlin he frequently had Twitter conversations with Michael de Barres that sounded like they actually knew each other. Funny how there has been nothing but crickets from ALL of them about their friend. Nothing from Kate Beckinsale, who is busy eating British candy on her Instagram. Nothing from the Downeys. Nothing from the Farriss brothers. Nothing from Himmmm's one-time fiancee and lady love, Diane Lane. Nothing from Paul Thomas Anderson who allegedly spent a whole day tweeting while suffering from a broken ankle and spent so long online that wife Maya Rudolph had to interject.... Hmmmm.... It's almost as though they never knew him?

To my knowledge True Crime Jen never outed Enty or Himmmm--at least in a public post, because she was known at one time to be private messaging with a lot of people who were trying to dig on CDAN and who knows what was said there. I refer to the time when every week she would quit the Patreon and then come back, complain about having no work from Enty or being replaced, and then be back again. There were even screenshots of her saying they were in a relationship and engaged and that he was ignoring her calls. If Enty has been dipping in company ink then that is his issue, but the regular public airing of this took place over a few months and looked so unprofessional. I believe it led to a drop in Patreon subscribers.

Interestingly, Jen has posted about the death, seemingly under the impression again that there are four Himmmms. Cannot help wondering if this dame has been lied to over and over by Enty.

R139 - I guess Weidlin and Co were just conversing with him on a casual basis like other readers were. At the time I remember wondering if he indeed had been linked to her or knew her when he was a musician but I guess not. And it is true - not a peep from anyone at all.

One account had posted her screenshots where she was talking about Himmmm catfishing women and Enty being her boyfriend, I assume that you have seen them? But yes it was not public and it was in private messages. But this got turned into her being the bad one and Enty and Himmmm were being lied about. Perhaps she has indeed been lied to because at one point she was saying something totally different. It's all far too shady.

R135 For the podcast, given that the lowest rate is $5 a month, it would bring more than $17,500 a month to Patreon. Take away the Patreon fees or the server hosting costs for the podcasts, and it's still some kind of jackpot for Enty, compared to what he can make from ads on the website (as Blogger would keep a large share).

R137 and R139 Griffith knew how to be seductive and to push the right buttons. He was clearly a fan of music and old movies, even if some of that knowledge came from Hollywood Babylon. He may have indeed struck a few friendships during his days in Hollywood or from playing music festivals around Virginia, even if the people may have not always taken him at face value. And, for them, he was maybe just this funny guy who could come up with a long invented Hollywood story within a minute. Or he was just this cool online presence who told a lot of tales involving drugs.

R136, the girl was 18 when she died. Griffith was 34 and he wasn't even a Virginia Tech alumni. They wouldn't have even found themselves in the same social circles.

R139 - Yes, I believe you are right. He knew how to write in a familiar way and I think OP is right in saying that he knew a lot of Hollywood stories and would rewrite his history along to them, like he had been there. I guess rockstars from the '80s and '90s are told so many stories by people saying "hey man, I was there" that it is easier to believe them all and be pally about it.

I saw the screenshots of Jen saying she was in a relationship with Enty. I do not remember seeing any about Himmmm but I heard they did not get along. Maybe she smelled a rat with him or maybe he was concerned she was going to meddle in CDAN affairs? She does not sound like a super stable person--although, who is these days FML--but I would not be surprised if all the things she said about Enty ghosting her turn out to be true. She seems to have gotten a bad rap with the CDAN crowd and I sense it may be unfairly given.

@Angela - Those were the figures I was working on too, based on the most inexpensive tier. It is a lot of money even by lawyer standards--that is if we are all believing that he is a lawyer, of course.

R142 - I do not believe that he is a lawyer. If he is then he must never sleep. Can you imagine the amount of work that goes into a website AND a podcast? Lawyers are required to write legal documents and formal correspondence and we all know that Enty's writing style is appalling. Sometimes I had to re-read what he had written a few times. My gullible friend's response? "He's doing it on purpose". Oh, do shut up.

Yes, there were definitely screenshots about TheHimmmm from a user who was corresponding with Jen, who stated that he was a fake and was catfishing women.

R142. Of course, he's not an attorney. An attorney would still make more money by focusing on his day job. And, given the existence of the blog, no firm would work with Enty knowing who he is. Things such as client-attorney confidentiality and NDAs are not a small deal, and he would be a huge liability to them.

The style is another factor, but he may just copy and paste stuff submitted to him.

One of the screenshots posted in the Jen debacle revealed that Enty’s real name is John.

Interesting about the catfishing, because back in 2008/9 there were stories about whoever Enty was then hitting up women on Facebook. He also, along with Dominique Swain, purchased screenplays from wannabe writers only he never actually paid them.

He's always been a con.

Swain and Donal Logue are basically the only people with actual credentials to have ever acknowledged Enty.

Kinda disappointed about Logue. I like him.

He did get ripped a new one by two of the child actresses from Little House on the Prairie after he posted a bullshit blind about one of the male actors abusing them.

I don't understand why the press are so reluctant to out this guy. They are literally supporting an alt-right shill and a liar.

Now that I did not know, R146.... Skeevier and skeevier. Considering CDAN acquired an ally reputation with #MeToo, it does seem like there are several hurt women lying in its wake.

Daughter

Jen is a real person, who knows a lot. I've Dmd her several times and she knows a lot of Hollywood stuff.

Do you know anything about "John Doe", Angela? He is a follower of Enty but he seems to me a level-headed gossip lover. He also went on Enty's Patreon podcast once to talk about Leo DiCaprio. I don't read CDAN so I'm not sure if he posts there, but I do enjoy his Twitter feed from time to time.

Please, let's not implicate the family in this. They've just lost somebody and it's more likely that they've never had anything to see with the posts by "Himmmm".

I've never really focused on the social media side of the site, figures a few of you seem to know, R142 and R152. Partly because digging a little too much may bring me towards stuff like QAnon that some of the fans enjoy. Sorry, can't help you on this one.

R151 - I hope she’s okay. I feel she has been treated badly by Enty and a lot of listeners. I even wonder if he gives her any percentage of the Patreon earnings. If he doesn’t then she should bail. Things do not look good for CDAN right now.

R153 - Preach. Now that Himmmm’s real identity is out there then people can do their own searching if they must—several family social profiles are reasonably open—but I do not think we should post things about them on a public board. Ultimately they are now dealing with the sudden and tragic loss of a family member.

R151 She and Enty are fine. She RT's his podcast.

Sorry, I didn't think. I am not sure if you can delete a post but if it can be done I'll try.

I have a feeling this whole thing was a case of catfishing gone wrong. There is a CDAN commenter who is claiming Himmmm was her boyfriend for the last 15 months. She posted on social media on 9/21 that she was moving to LA (Silverlake specifically) and included photos of the Paramour Estate. As you all may recall, H1 alluded to living at the Paramour in long blind with Kate Beckinsale.

Hmm, been reading and the wig chap on here follows her R157. Just saying.

R157 I know who she is but I did not see those posts you mention. I thought Paramour Estate was a set but people live there, also? And he lived in Virginia, right? I did think it was catfishing gone wrong too but I think she knew in the end because she quote-posted his obituary. How much she knew and what he told her nobody knows except her. Maybe she knew all, who knows.

R159 - If it is a catfish then it is the biggest one I ever saw.

Whilst I will not reveal who it is, it is revealed openly on Twitter by herself and her family and they are talking about it publicly, then others cannot be blamed for doing the same. It seems like the girlfriend knows something but she is suffering from cognitive dissonance. God only knows what he told he. There were posters speaking his behavior towards women, and her sister lept to his defense and called them liars. One of the posters, who took exception to being called a liar, threatened to expose the screenshots that would support her claim. She also claims that there are many other women who have come forward about his behavior. One of the sister's replies was very telling:

"the time they spent together were the happiest days of her life! Yes, you're 100% right, some lying, but at the end of the day, we didn't care. All she knows is that during her time with him, whomever he was, was the best year of her life and I don't want anyone ruining that for her by muddying up his name and memory . I can assure you that my main goal in life is to Always protect my sister. Please just cut out the cruel posts, even if they are true."

'Even if they are true'.

Oh, and R153 - The family member mentioned does indeed follow Enty so I assume she knows of their connection but who knows any further than that. I agree, it's not good for her to know.

In any case I will say that last year an account with her name was messaging women and telling them that Himmmm was a fraud, and other things. I assumed it to be a troll.

This whole thing is very murky and a huge mess.

R162 Last year was definitely a troll. And she was just exposing stuff that she most likely had just found out on Gossip Rocks or some other place that had exposed Griffith around 2012, probably to hurt him back. But there was nothing beyond the same couple of mentions and accusations, no context provided, just like the accusations in the comments from a few months ago about the cat fishing. Maybe it was indeed the same person.

R161 Your quote definitely sums up the whole thing. Griffith was one very delusional person who appealed as Himmmm to seriously damaged women. And he may have made them feel great for a while, even if none of it was based in reality. He had a pattern of creating identities and personas that goes back at least a decade and it's likely that the pattern from his CDAN contributions was present in many other aspects of his life. He also had a craving need for celebrity and recognition that was channeled into his Himmmm tales. It's indeed a sad story about somebody who assumed he only mattered when he posed as somebody else, in his case many people, or when he forged self-aggrandizing tales about himself and Hollywood.

I've found a couple of Twitter threads, and it appears that his own daughter has just been brought to the fight between a few factions (the accuser, the CDAN commenter who was obviously cat-fished about the California move but is still OK with him, her sister, etc.).

I just saw R163. The girlfriend has been told the truth from the horse's mouth and she still is not listening. I feel sorry for her but she is not helping herself not facing up to the truth and trying to bitch at the one person who knew him better than she did. His daughter. He has obviously spun more to the story and exaggerated his connections. She's deleted all her tweets now but the woman clearly needs some help and her sister needs to stop enabling her delusions. And her being rude to his daughter is frankly rather disgusting considering she wants people to respect her grieving, she is not doing the same.

p.s excuse me if I sound harsh.

Shit's getting crazy.

R165 You're not harsh. These are indeed fucked up territories. The cat-fished woman is fighting for the imaginary memory of someone she never met, as she thinks that she had a deeper connection than his own daughter had.

Even if he had left the site more than a year ago, Himmmm's death may have some wider repercussions on CDAN. Because, in a way, the site enabled him. It used his skill for pretending to be actual celebrities as a way to get attention. The RDJ incident played a huge part in making the site popular around 2012. It also gave him some minor online celebrity status, which allowed him to get in touch with people, apparently women, and to try some shady business with them. If there was indeed some cat-fishing and if Enty was quite aware of the situation but still kept on posting Himmmm blind items and turned a blind eye because Himmmm knew how to bring the traffic, this may well come up at some point in the future.

Thank you. I honestly feel bad for her, however, her sister needs to stop mollycoddling her and tell her to face reality. Saying a year of happiness is great even if it based on lies is very unhealthy. Her sister seems to be suffering the malaise, also. Her relationship with TG was based on lies and therefore her connection was not real. It seems like the thought of having a relationship with somebody who supposedly had connections is like a form of crack.

And if Enty turned a blind eye then he just as culpable for what ensued. It's a huge clusterfuck.

So, funny that a lawyer on that thread from LA followed by Enty and Himmmm told them all to stop fighting and delete tweets. Who would that benefit?

I think she'll get there by herself at some point (well, hopefully). She obviously is not ready for the truth at this point.

I am wondering if anyone else has access to the Himmmm twitter account. Because if so, i expect things will be deleted quite soon. If no one else has access and his "stories" are left public, this is going to break as a news story.

R170 - Looks like no-one has access because that account has had zero engagements for weeks if you discount folks tweeting at it to send their sorrows to Robert and Susan Downey Jr. Now I got $10 to put down on Enty shitting his pants in his mom’s basement because his anonymous empire is about to fall. I will add another $10 on the daughter being the one to bring the hammer down on it all. Looks like she kicked ass and took names on Twitter today.

And yet, the CDAN website, FB and Twitter are doing a retrospective of Himmmm posts. Trying to milk it as long as they can?

There's a special free podcast on Himmmm that apparently focuses on what he meant for the #metoo movement (!!). Retrospectives are in place on Facebook and Twitter, but, apart from the original post that announced his death, there has been nothing on the main site.

Yes, I heard some of it Angela. Ironic to say the least! He uses voice changing software, I am sure of it.

Enty has now run afoul of Chrissie Teigan, who called bullshit on one of his blind items. This may finally be to beginning of the end of that Fraud.

"Data Lounge, gossip rocks, and whatever other sites are talking about me, stalking all my (and my family) social media. It creeps me out. PS.. all your assumptions are wrong. I'm quite aware."

- Hey girl. *waves* Or wig man – if you’re the one passing on the info *wink*.

1- If you know everything then you're even worse of a human being if you support that behavior towards women, especially with proof. Stockholm syndrome perhaps. Either way, you need help.

2- People don’t care about you that much , you’re just collateral damage in this sordid tale – the topic is about a fraudster who was on a public gossip site and has been scrutinized for a long time now and your attachment to him has been made public (BY YOU!) so people will talk about it, like they do any other figure, especially when many of them were targets of his bad behavior. You want them to be quiet to keep up your delusion?

3- And no, people aren't stalking you if you make PUBLIC posts on Twitter, you're all out there for people to read and obviously want people to read them because you would have kept it all quiet or posted behind a private account. Or not choose to rant publicly with other posters and telling them not to tell their truths. So you want people to know you, right?

4- I see some of your friends posting here too, very hypocritical don’t you think?

So, please – if you do not want people reading your Twitter rants where everyone can see then do it behind a PRIVATE account or shut up. Even his daughter said it.

It just shows you that some people choose to believe something regardless of every bit of evidence and crave for being the center of attention.

Yesterday, there was a new Meghan blind at CDAN. You know, the fat yacht girl married to Harry. Enty now has to top himself to make an impression, and here was the outcome:

"I knew the PR team was nuts, but they pitched a story yesterday to the US tabloids that everyone else should get out of the way and let the alliterate royal's husband be King. Yeah."

Sure... And almost every comment regards this as true, despite a few minor implausibilities you may think of.

Oh, that is funny. Harry is not going to be king - for one, how many are in line before him, and two, he does not want to be king. Rubbish. I do not even read that site anymore and that's the truth. It's garbage.

And it is definitely attention-seeking. I had sympathy for a certain person but it's wearing thin because she has zero sympathy for the ladies he upset, none whatsoever and enabling his behaviour too, which is disgusting in my book . My friend was one of them so my sympathy goes to her first and yes, that's why I feel angry about it. She and her sister have publicly called people liars and she even got into an argument with his daughter, who told her straight to shut up and who is grieving, which shows it's just about her and her feelings and poor me, victim narrative and everyone else is bullying her when she's openly sharing her life for everyone to see. And then has the audacity to claim she's being stalked like she is a celebrity or something. You're on a public twitter, fool.

For the record, unless there is another active DL thread, she was mentioned here but we took care not to give direct links, post her name or share any private detail. Similarly, Gossip Rocks had a thread about Himmmm in 2012 which was bumped when his death was made public, but nothing has been posted there since October 12, meaning that she wasn't even alluded to there.

The two priorities for her should be to get some real help, rather than seeking online sympathy and validation, and not to harm anybody else. As you said, there are other women who were cat-fished. But, even if she's totally in denial, she's first a victim, maybe with more affinities to Himmmm's personalities and delusions than the others, but still a victim first.

R168 (kfletcher) Great job on finding that the attorney was followed by Enty and Himmmm. She could have fooled me as an innocent bystander who happened to be there.

I lost my temper there (as my post 178 shows, I forgot to sign it) for the reasons I stated, mainly the lack of empathy for the women - and I will defend my friend. Yes, she's a victim. And as for Gossip Rocks, I do not use that site but that's a little odd one would namecheck a site that has not mentioned anybody directly.

No, we have never used names, yet if anyone wanted to find out it's all over Twitter without even knowing her account name at all. If you type the username of the account -which has been the subject of speculation- in the search bar, all of the recent tweets from various accounts will show up. So, maybe people need to be more mindful of what they put out there instead of accusations of stalking on 'social media'. I've only seen Twitter.

The attorney - I just noticed it at the end of a thread, it just happened to be a bystander who decided to ask people to delete tweets (that could possibly incriminate one person???).

Well, you have every right to be furious. This is extremely frustrating. She's not coping well with the death of her virtual boyfriend, and there may be some projection from her in basically naming the boards that had outed him years ago as the root of her own persecution, even if Gossip Rocks, for instance, knows nothing about her.

For the record, I had an exchange with her on CDAN last year in July, at the time I was trying to understand how it worked. I made mistakes (Himmmm was definitely not the "main figure" behind the site), but I tried to show her how Talley Griffith was definitely Himmmm and was a pathological liar online. She said that it was "cruel to the actual man, and his family" including his children. The irony...

Also, almost all the participants in the Twitter conversation have deleted their tweets from yesterday.

That makes sense about the gossip board. Although, even an online newspaper wrote an article about it too. New York Post? Something like that.

Well, there you go, that speaks volumes. You can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink, dear Angela. What's cruel is women minding their own business and being sexually harassed and then abused when not reciprocated, that's what. But....I've made my point and I am done with it at this point.

Well, they probably saw this thread and starting deleting. Oops. :-) That is probably the wisest thing to do, you know the saying about airing ones dirty laundry in public.

Just another brick in the wall of shitty white men telling lies to get what they want from women. Sure was not the first time and will not be the last. So over it all.

Has nobody in media since the NY Post shown any interest in outing CDAN?

R185 After 2012, CDAN went to a different hosting platform, and lost a lot of traffic in the process.

The blog was (and is again) hosted on Blogger or Blogspot, owned by Google. Google provides the servers and the whole infrastructure (like the comment system) for free, and may even handle advertising, but they must take quite a share of the earnings in return. It's intended for personal blogs, not large sites. So, at one point, Enty decided to move to a different platform, that may have granted him a larger cut. It was a catastrophe, as the layout didn't fit the content, you had to click on a link to read any article, you had the same generic pictures over and over for each post, etc.

Also, "Himmmm" took a few years off after being first unmasked. With these two factors, the traffic declined and there was much less interest about Enty's actual identity. Then, the site was hosted again on Blogger around 2016 and would post a lot of stuff about yachting. It still got Enty an interview in Vanity Fair for the 10th anniversary of the site.

Then, in 2017, it got some attention because of Weinstein, Spacey, Lauer and NXIVM. But at this point, you could learn a ton more by reading the "MSM" than by going to CDAN. Still, it brought some kind of cachet to the site. But, frankly, the current situation with fake news, Russian propaganda and bots, the actual president of the fucking US of A spreading canards, and the likes is so extreme that focusing on a gossip blog to connect it with some minor wrongdoings or the alt-right seems a waste of time.

Here's a piece about the blind item culture from last year from The Ringer. It's more about the concept of blind items in the current times than an analysis of how CDAN operates, but you can see how Enty is handled with some respect.

Heh, even the lawyer deleted her tweet. Thank goodness for screenshots.

R186 Thanks for the explanation. Heard talk of problems with the blog host but did not know what it was all about. So TG took a break from being Himm a coupla years back, huh. Do you think Enty asked him back to make the blog relevant again or maybe TG started emailing him again? I guess there is maybe a big part of Hollywood that likes Enty for outing dicks and people who deserve to be shamed. So there is that in his corner where they are concerned.

Haha R187. Deleting doesn't guarantee a thing because people take screenshots.

There was a thread on Datalounge about CDAn's links to right-wing media. There was a twitter link by Louise Mensch, I think. She apparently did whois search and found links to Rebel Media or something? I know she's a nutter but what do you think, Angela?

Also, TG - I find it really hypocritical that people, in general, are leaping to his defense and anyone who chooses to speak up about his behavior gets cast as a troll. Anyone who tries to defend the women is told to shut up, so they are silencing those who want to speak up. It kind of goes against the whole thing they support CDAN doing- that is, outing abusers. It's okay, unless it is Himmmm, of course. That's fucked up. I don't blame you for losing your shit 183.

R188 I don't think Enty really needed Himmmm when he returned. Traffic had already been boosted by the various scandals in the entertainment industry around September-October 2017, like the fall of Weinstein. Also, apart from a few exceptions, Himmmm's posts remained in line with his usual shtick, while the overall tone of the site had already shifted towards pedo rings and an industry-wide conspiracy to cover them.

We don't know the actual relationship between Enty and TG. We also don't know what TG did during the years he didn't publish anything as "Himmmm". In addition to being outed, there may have been personal circumstances that contributed to his silence. I suspect that he provided Enty with a few stories, especially the stuff related to Natalie Wood and Chris Cornell, two people he was obsessed with.

Anyway, soon after he made his return, "Himmmm" hinted it was a limited engagement and that he was about to start some retirement tour, with four huge stories (they were particularly long, even given his previous standards) that would sum up his personal experiences before he would leave for good. It's impossible to say if TG was already depressed and was considering leaving everything behind after that, if he was asked by Enty to quietly leave the site, or if he wanted to make a comeback at CDAN before trying new ventures.

He had also started posting directly on social media, first with a Twitter account, then with a Medium blog, in February 2019, where he would post material similar to what he would bring to CDAN. So, it looks like TG still wanted to maintain "Himmmm" in his final months.

I don't think that Hollywood likes Enty for "outing dicks". At this point, Hollywood may have realized that Entry mostly depicts Hollywood as a huge front for a pedo ring, with almost everybody there being a nonce or at best an enabler. And most of the content that's being posted is vague and uninformed, with some stories that couldn't possibly come from an insider(*). Remember that it's a site that published for months stories by "Dancing Boy". If Enty really got tips from people in the industry, do you think he would have relied on such nonsense?

* There have been for instance, three or four different blind items in the last few weeks about the "historic" American Horror Story players being mad at Ryan Murphy for signing a new contract that tripled the budget, with all the money going to his pockets, which was the explanation for their departure. This was a childish attempt at attacking Murphy, especially as two of the actors guessed for the blind items, Jessica Lange and Sarah Paulson, are actually working on new shows by Ryan Murphy. And, of course, no network would triple the budget for a show that enters its ninth season and gets dwindling ratings. It just shows you how much of a sloppy job the blinds do. I don't think "Hollywood" would regard this as "outing a dick".

R191 Oh ya, what I meant was that smaller players, co-stars, people working in craft service and makeup and all would be pleased to see shitty actors and actresses revealed by Enty as being the dicks they truly are. I agree that Hollywood as the industry is probably not so much a fan of Enty when he reveals secrets like casting couch, money changing hands, all that jazz.

Maybe TG returned as Himmm around the time Weinstein fell because he saw there was big traffic going through the site and he needed the attention fix?

R190 You are so right about outing abusers. Enty looks more like an enabler by the day but his readers--or most of them--do not seem to care.

R189 I'm not convinced by Mensch. In general, she makes a lot of claims based on tiny details. Sure, she found a tiny detail that could connect CDAN to the same middleman as Rebel Media for domain name registration, but that proves nothing. That's just like when you do a WHOIS on a domain name and it's supposedly administered in Boca Raton.

And everything suggests otherwise that CDAN is a small operation with no backing from a bigger group:

1) The layout and the platform are still the same as 8 years ago. I've checked the Rebel Media site. It's a little more modern and interactive than the format for CDAN. Rebel Media would have shared some resources with CDAN to make the page look more attractive.

2) Enty's main source of revenue these days may be the Patreon paying podcast. You'd assume that a company who wants to spread a message towards the largest audience possible would share it for free.

3) There's just a share of the content that's directly political. Most of it tries to undermine and libel liberal celebrities that have just made a stand against Trump.

As I said, my theory is rather that Enty noticed at some point that his readers were mostly a bunch of "Tricias", middle-aged housewives and Trump supporters who hate Hollywood, its liberal "MSM", it liberal Jews, its liberal gays, etc. Around 2016, there was still a bunch of blind items targeting Donald Trump (how Melania was a former escort, how he was a white supremacist who would offer Omarosa to some of his friends to seal a deal, etc). After the election, things changed radically. There hasn't been any material on Trump for two years and a half. Previous stalwarts of the site, such as James Woods or Jon Voight, have been silently phased out. Instead, their place has been taken by people or institutions that Trump would regard as enemies or "losers" (De Niro, Meryl Streep, SNL, etc.) and that attract some irrational hatred among his supporters.

I think that Enty saw a big opportunity to secure a faithful audience (given the tone of the comments based on the celebrity targeted by a blind), and that he's decide to post a lot of material that will appeal to that crowd, with a few people there who may actually submit some of the stuff. He knows that some people go crazy over QAnon elsewhere, and he's offering them the Hollywood equivalent based on, you guessed it, pedo rings, handled for decades by Steven Spielberg and David Geffen. Now, he's milking that crowd even more with the Patreon subscriptions about Jeffrey Epstein, and he targets all the "Tricias" of the country, the dumb, bored housewives who get easily tricked (not necessarily catfished).

Most of the time, when something appears to be a conspiracy, there's a simpler and more logical conclusion that just involves greed and stupidity. I guess that current CDAN is one of those situations.

R194 - Angela you are so wise, what you say makes a heck of a lot of sense! I have wondered for a long time why there are almost no Trump blinds around. I think I only ever saw one and it was based mainly on Omarosa. What I can not figure out is why the circles that he is targeting, Spielberg, Netflix, Tesla, all the usual suspects, have not tried to sue.

R192 I totally agree with you. TG definitely loved the attention he got as Himmmm. I think he made some uncredited contributions during the "lost years" but he craved for some "direct" recognition. As I said in R123, he even used CDAN as a springboard to start some buzz over a "based on a true story" script he was certainly developing when he posted the blind item about the secret Christopher Nolan project about a 80s pornstar who had a brush with the mob three decades later over her old contracts that were decisive for a megacorporate fusion. And there is of course the cat fishing, which could only happen if he was maintaining an Internet presence.

But we don't know a lot of stuff about TG and Enty, and we will likely never know. Did Enty try to "help" the guy because he had issues, because TG was feeling better, because he wanted some callback to the early tone of the site? Did he enable these issues by giving him exposure?

R190 You're totally right. They have double standards for everything, and the newly canonized "Saint Himmmm" is just another example of this. They see the Jeffrey Epstein case as an opportunity to attack the Clintons, Prince Andrew and basically anybody who was photographed with him. Everybody but Trump, of course, because that's naturally a smear campaign.

An example from last night (most of the messages have been deleted, due to some troll attacking the iconic Tricia). It was a blind item on Meryl Streep apparently not getting the Oscar nomination the studio was supposed to buy her. The conversation quickly drifted to her supposed ties with Epstein, Weinstein or even Polanski. She was the one who had started the standing ovation when he won the Oscar for The Pianist. Some idiot even commented on the look of disgust on Harrison Ford's face when she did this.

Fuck me. Harrison Ford actually worked with Roman Polanski on Frantic in 1988. He was actually the one who presented him a few months later with the Oscar at a French film festival in 2003. There are dozens of pictures where Ford is, uncharacteristically, all smiles next to Polanski. But Ford has never criticized Trump, so it's Streep who's the pedo and rape enabler.

Hi Angela, was trying to find you ages ago when himmmm started catfishing woman. Things got dark. Thanks for confirming all the information I had suspected all along. I got screen shots backing up a lot of the things you are talking about.

Well, now John Doe is speaking up about Himmmm. John Doe works with Enty, surely he must approve this?

Thanks for all the background on the site, Angela. And your opinion on Mensch also. You have a lot of knowledge.

R197 it seems more and more people are coming forward. Did you experience it, or was it just stuff you observed? It was indeed very dark.

I saw first hand and confronted him along time ago. No one believed me.

I am sorry about that R201. I hope you are okay. You aren't the only one who wasn't believed. Hardcore fans are like that, even now they're still saying they believe the lies. if anything, it is all unraveling now and the more people talk the more word gets out. And screenshots ALWAYS help ;)

Right now people are asking questions on a CDAN group because of what John Doe posted and moderators are deleting posts very fast . It's okay for CDAN to post untruths about celebs being rapists and pedophiles but sure, let's delete posts asking valid questions . Selective free speech right?

What's everybody's Twitter handles?

R101 and R98, I also knew someone who was very well-acquainted with a semi-regular blind-item topic (and a big star). Like, R101, enty published a story on this actor doing illicit activities that absolutely could not happened in the timeframe given. And made no sense with the actor's known personality. But hey, the commenters all ate it up!

The term actor there in my post 204 is meant to be general neutral to preserve the person's privacy a little and widen the field (because the blind item really doesn't need to be dredged up again.)

R195 Celebrities don't sue, because they'd need to find actual people behind the smoke screen, it would create a lot of media coverage and they would need to prove that it's not true and that the piece was written with the intent to harm them. If you sue somebody because it is written somewhere that you had sex with a donkey, it means that thousands of other people will learn about the donkey fucking claims through your legal action.

R198 I'm trying to listen to the podcast where Enty eulogizes Himmmm. According to Enty himself, TG had been a tipster for the site since 2008, with stories about Hayden Pannetiere, that Enty had to turn into blind items.

From my own searches, he created a Blogger account as "Himmmm" in February 2009, and started to post comments on CDAN on February 5, sporadically. Over the years, he started to gain some kind of reputation (but my memory was wrong, there was no article that actually named him as a source), but it started to explode in March 2012, when he posed transparently as RDJ in the comments, sharing more and more precise stories (Kirk Douglas raping Natalie Wood, a different story about Ryan O'Neal, the landline number for Natasha Gregson Wagner). It caused the traffic to quadruple, according to Enty. And then Himmm had to leave as a commenter to get out of the heat and the scrutiny, but kept on contributing.

He actually returned officially in October 2017, just in the wake of the Weinstein scandal, and this time he had blind items carrying his name in the title.

It doesn't look like the guy behind Enty and TG knew each other before CDAN started or even met. TG claimed at some point that he had picked the "Himmmm" moniker with Enty (" the origin of the name HiMMMM comes from a running joke with Enty actually. We're both big fans of the Cannonball Run film," January 06, 2012) then later that it was the choice of "4 people" (the four Himmmms, "One is an ex-famous musician. (The idiot who started the account). One is a Hollywood actor/producer/smartass. One is a writer/producer-type person & inbred child of Hwood. One is an ex-Southern Writer whose family's been in Hwood 100 years and who co-runs a production company at a studio", November 20, 2017)

With even some people like "John Doe" finally finding the light, it should get interesting. At best, it would mean that Enty is an idiot who was played for 11 years. He never second-guessed, despite the many contradictions, the stories that TG would provide him with, never noticed that TG had no career in Hollywood despite having so many connections, and never even tried to meet the guy who was working in the same city. Oh, and he went along until the very end with the "It's actually four guys" facade. After his death, he even got in touch with the "girlfriend" who provided him with a sample of his poetry.

At worst, it means that Enty deliberately posts anything, provided it's a shocker, and was happy to go with the charade about RDJ (he doesn't insist about this stuff in the podcast, while it was the actual thing that created this monster attention about the site in 2012), concretely using as a source stories sent to him by someone suffering from delusion and mythomania but could provide him with material that suited the tastes of his readers.

It could be a "waiting for the other shoe to drop" moment, especially as the podcast . But, from a few reactions to John Doe's posts, some of his readers don't extend their doubts towards the rest of what Enty posts (even the material uncredited to TG) and few of them still believe that TG was just one of the "four Himmmms".

R197 I'm sorry that I didn't notice your posts at the time. Were they on CDAN? For some obvious reasons, I try not to share any personal details that would have allowed posters there to find me elsewhere, but if you want to get in touch, I'll try to work out a solution.

R203 - One, why do you want our handles? And two, you go first..

R203 The Garofaholic is my handle.

R207 Just wanted to know if we follow each other. I'm Wigmaniac

R206 - Great summary, thankyou. I knew the RDJ rumor began with the Natalie Wood and Kirk Douglas comments. RDJ had to put out a denial but every body who wanted to believe seemed to take it as “oh sure, of course he had to.” I wonder if that’s where TG decided there should be 4 of them.

There was a podcast episode of Enty’s favorite blinds that he read out and one was Gary Sinise putting on a benefit concert for a veteran in VA. All details point to blind author being TG and Enty even gives a laughing reference to somebody well known to the site BUT as TG and not as Himm.

the four Himmmms, "One is an ex-famous musician. (The idiot who started the account). One is a Hollywood actor/producer/smartass. One is a writer/producer-type person & inbred child of Hwood. One is an ex-Southern Writer whose family's been in Hwood 100 years and who co-runs a production company at a studio",

interesting!!! Each of these describes one facet of TG's own story. He considered himself a musician (number one.) He considered himself a producer and smartass (number two) he lied and said that he was part of the DW Griffith family (number three) he's from the south and described himself as scribe (number four)

What's kind of fascinating to me (and sorry to take this thread a bit off topic from Himmm), is that for commenters supposedly so in-touch with gossip and celebrities, a lot of regulars at enty's site don't seem to know all that much? Or have all that much interesting insider info? I'd expect juicier stories and receipts in the comments but instead, it just seems to be towing the party line- i.e. whatever enty tells them. And that's fine- I'm not the most connected person in the world, but I found that to be a fixture of the site. It's just not all that illuminating if you're not willing to fall for the blinds hook-line-and-sinker.

Yeah, where's the Janeane Garofalo gossip?

R204 - I am sure many people, like you and I, can dispute some of the claims via the inside knowledge we have of a particular person but they do not care. Is the star aware of the blind?

Angela , I think you have enough material yourself to write your own article and pitch it to an online newspaper. What will happen now, I wonder?? Will Enty comment about all these speculations and what Joe Doe has said, or will he just continue as he is saying nothing. At some point people are going to ask where the other 3 himmmm's are.

Well, this is the perfect reader for Enty R213 - they do not have much knowledge and therefore it is easy to fool a person like that, whereas some of posters, people like Angela , have a lot of knowledge and will be able to call out some bullshit. There are a lot of buffs out there who knows things about Hollywood too, something they do not count on! At some point TG made an error, he said 'Let's Go Crazy' was never featured in any movies except a certain movie he'd worked on and somebody called him out and told him it was in Kingsmen. I'm surprised he did not say he co-wrote it with Prince. :-)

I don't follow you or vice versa, Wigaholic. In fact, I do not follow any of them, I stopped following Enty and Himmmm last year .

R215, actually I'm not sure. The person is no longer in regular contact with the star and I've never really asked more than they're willing to tell. And it's not really the sort of thing I'd imagine the actor/actress would want to call attention to, anyway. I just rolled my eyes and moved on- didn't see the point of arguing!

I find that the less regular contributors often have more valuable things to add! And there are some buffs that show up. I was just surprised- based on some regulars profiles, I'd expect them to have a more knowledge than they do.

R217 I know a lot about music, so I could see hole in their stories.

R213 Great point. It's actually the whole thread that went off-topic because of the death of Himmmm. I entirely agree about it, and it should have stayed my main point. There's been a community who has eaten for years the stories written by Enty, and provided to him by sources like TG who were actually frauds, and they can't be talked out of these beliefs

"How many times can a man turn his head pretending he just doesn’t see?" Thanks to the Internet, we now have the answer: an infinite number of times. It's quite fascinating that these people who regard themselves as enlightened, well-aware and freed from the "tyranny of the MSM" will actually narrow their coverage of information to a few sources that they never second-guess, because they simply comfort their existing opinion about an issue. It's much easier now compared to 20 years ago to spend your day inside a bubble and to stay with a community of like-minded people while avoiding opinions that challenge you. And it's an issue that we can all have at some point.

The plot thickens

John Doe is the only one around CDAN with some balls. Good job. I do not blame him for abandoning ship and his honesty is just really refreshing.

It's pretty obvious to me:

"One reason I mostly stick to the MSM these days is to make sure you all only get verified true information. I will try to do better going forward"

Reading in between the lines, even though he says 'I not think that Enty is a bad person' it is clear he does not trust him a great deal. If you've allowed a fraud to send you blinds for years then it does call your character into question.

Although the conspiracy nuts will say: "John Doe is being compromised, they've got to him!" How about this - he has balls and integrity, like R222 says.

R222 - Could not agree with you more. Enty either

1) knew and allowed it 2) suspected but did not bother to confirm or take action to protect the site 3) had no idea and therefore must make no effort to confirm sources

All 3 options make him unreliable and put the whole CDAN thing in to question. How can anybody believe anything he or any of his contributorys have written now? My $$ is on him knowing. He must be a clever guy, he could not NOT know—the man has google ffs.

Remember what R157 posted yesterday. "If it is a catfish then it is the biggest one I ever saw."

It would be an even bigger one. Enty would have been catfished during 11 years, despite knowing the real life identity of TG and never interacting directly with any of the three other Himmmms. According to the podcast, he got at one point tips that were the base for 50 different blind items in a single week...

Enty isn't stupid, but he's dabbled for too long with an audience he regards as idiots, and he's become complacent in the long run.

Interesting. Someone posted this on the John Doe twitter thread.

The guy is an actual entertainment attorney, who got a producer credit on "An Open Secret". This was enough for the person who posted the link to assume that it was the actual Enty, especially as the bio mentions his "Mom's Basement Management" banner for managing writers (Enty describes himself as "living in his parents basement").

Yet, this guess overlooks all clues that he's definitely not Enty. From his Twitter account, he's based in Boston, and most of his IMDb credits are either for documentaries and true crime fictions (where he must have been a consultant, to prevent legal actions against production) or for reality TV shot near Boston. That doesn't match at all the content Enty claims to have access to.

Besides, the guy seems to have an actual career. Spreading gossip under an alias such as "Entertainment Lawyer" would not go well at all with his clients (or opponents) if he was uncovered.

Enty revealed on the podcast that he started out in A&R in the music biz, I am guessing around the 1990s. Screenshots of true crime Jen that got published said his name was John.

My take? CDAN is a team effort and always has been. Between whoever is Enty on the podcast, TG, and maybe Tricia also. TG got his break in the 1990s, Enty was coming up in the 1990s, Tricia said on podcast she worked in Hollywood around that time.

Mistake may have been to bring in newbies like Jen and John. And also to allow TG to run riot on twitter and share private messages with a hell of a lot of people.

Tricia wouldn't be in a capacity to fool anybody as an insider or to write something about anybody who's not part of her short list of usual guesses or in the headlines of The Daily Mail (she frequently makes wrong guesses, even on easy blinds). She could have been a low-grade employee in the entertainment industry in the 1990s, but she's a bored stay at home mom living in Florida, who doesn't hide her opinions (beginning of her Twitter bio: "Mother/Wife /Patriot/POTUS"), hates 99% of the industry and has a desperate need for validation. I don't see her at all as a figure behind the curtain, just the most vocal example of Enty's current target audience.

I don't think that Enty's real name would bring us anything. If he had any firsthand knowledge of what he writes about, the stories stopped after a couple of months, replaced by tips from random sources, rewrites of some material found elsewhere or just "original" stories based on assumptions. I don't see any reason to doubt that Himmmm heard about the site two years on, reached out to Enty, started a collaboration where he would provide him with tips and gradually became a major figure in the comments.

Himmmm definitely contributed to shape the tone of the site and its evolution, if any of the indications about the amount of material he would submit, that Enty would just rephrase to turn it into blind items, is true. Actually, the big blinds sourced to Bani, the middleman for yacht girls and Middle Eastern princes, are typical Himmmm material, rambling stories with dozens of names. And these stories were then developed into dozens of related blinds (which he didn't necessarily wrote, but that he inspired). Maybe the evolution of the site partially reflected TG's changing mental conditions, with darker stuff taking over (but the guy would routinely write on rape and incest as early as 2012 at least). I've also just realized that he had an unhealthy fetish on mothers and daughters (not just Natalie Wood and Natasha, or Hayden Pannetiere and her mother, he claimed in the early days that he had lost his virginity to an older actress and that he was now close to dating her daughter).

It will be interesting to see how many people realize they were played, how they react and how the remaining believers will deal with that.

Someone I know thought it was Matthew Valentinas, also for a moment because Gabe Hoffman was posting on the site a lot. But I agree with you, Angela. R222. It seems very unlikely.

John Doe is getting some pushback for having badmouthed Enty, a few posters have said Enty is losing followers because of it. Another said the facebook group had indeed deleted posts questioning everything which makes it look even worse. Enty should address all of this, but who knows if he will.

As for the team - on one of his podcasts, Enty said that one of his best tipsters was a caterer because she remembered every detail but she had moved to the Caribbean, but he said it was not Tricia. So I don't know about that.

Sorry I meant R229.

I heard it was Valentinas too but I think he is maybe a friend of Enty and deliberately has those weird clues as a misdirect. If you look up a video of him speaking he sounds totally different.

Right on time there are now people saying the death was not suicide even though the daughter has confirmed publicly that it was. Sick. This girl needs to grieve and be respected and instead these people are diverting their stress about Enty lying to them on to the family supposedly lying about his history and his death. Vultures.

Their voices are very different, indeed. I think he does deliberately leave clues to point to different people, as Himmmm did with RDJ. R232

Right, they seem more concerned with preserving their delusions rather than listen to the truth, turning something into a conspiracy theory - I suppose they think he was offed due to him being a Hollywood insider with far too much knowledge??? Okaaaaay. Tinfoil whack jobs.

His daughter said it, it is not good enough. Even if he left them a note they'd say it was fake.

Finally it looks as if the CDAN circle is being dismantled, which is long overdue.

This is a problem for Enty. A real one. He now has the publishing responsibility of all himmms fake blinds identifying REAL people in total fantasy stories involving distressing things such as rape, death, drugs, miscarriage. He now has the conscience too of MORE real people being identified as involved with CDAN who may not be, like this lawyer MV. And now the daughter too having to see comments telling her she needs to relax and let total strangers mourn her dad for all the brilliant stories (lies) he told.

R235

As the saying goes, you reap what you sow. 😉

R230 Look at the more recent blind items. There's no way that a caterer or anybody whose job involves rubbing elbows with celebrities would know so much or that Enty would get real tips on ten different celebrities (especially when they're not in LA) every day. In the old days, the blinds were often about who's a mean drunk, has awful body odor, or didn't tip well, in addition to some far-fetched tales and urban legends. Now, it's about why a celebrity has decided to support silently so-and-so, who's a child molester or who is the underage starlet who's secretly dating a 40 year old producer. If these stories were true, it would mean access to the first circle of the celebrity, or even to their inner thoughts (cf. the Meghan Markle blinds). Enty jumped the shark ages ago.

R232 R233 I have always been disgusted to see that every suicide mentioned on CDAN is a conspiracy: Kurt Cobain (killed by Courtney), Chris Cornell (murdered by his second wife, or because of his fight against PEDO RINGS!!), Anthony Bourdain (killed by Harvey Weinstein to scare Asia Argento), Avicii (killed by the authorities at Oman because he had witnessed a PEDO RING!!), Mark Salling (killed on behalf of David Geffen because he was about to implicate him in a PEDO RING!!), Argentinian Playmate Natacha Jaitt (who actually made repeated claims on pedo rings and was a raging coke addict, killed because she had evidence on the very PEDO RING!! Avicii had talked her about), Kate Spade, etc.

I'm disgusted because Anthony Bourdain, for instance, was a champion of mental health awareness. Not even a day after his death was announced (and it took place in France), Enty posted a complete narrative about a commando who had arranged everything. Sometimes people do commit suicide because of depression, including celebrities who were brave enough to talk about their daily struggle. Exploiting deaths for a few cheap clicks, belittling depression are just things that a sociopath would do. By now, Enty has so much groomed his audience that some of them make TG's death a conspiracy on their own, even if Enty said right from the start about "the good friend to the site" that there were"No conspiracies or anything like that. There were witnesses." Yeah, R236, you reap what you sow.

Regarding my previous comment, "some of them MAY make his death a conspiracy". So far, I haven't seen any comment supporting such a theory, and I really hope that it won't happen. It's actually easier for them to just think that there are (at least) three other "Himmmms" who are still alive but suddenly decided to stop sharing stories out of respect for the head writer in the bunch who was their soul brother.

Oh, I have seen some comments, Angela! R236 & R238 Maybe not a huge amount but I have seen some and I agree, I hope that does not happen. "Who was at his death? Nobody" "Was there a note?" They were implying it was not suicide and said as much. Then others suggesting KG should get over it and she cannot control others speaking about him fondly. Okay - so that works both ways you know , dear CDANers. And the stans cannot control the masses from talking either about their saints. They seem much more concerned with people speaking badly of a dead person i.e TG , and so let me ask them this - how is it that they talk about dead people all the time? Like you mentioned, Anthony Bourdin, Chris Cornell..to name a couple. They have NO problem upsetting family members talking about dead people and accusing certain folk of murder and yet we are scumbags for talking about TG. These people are hypocrites.

Oh, I am not suggesting it was true about a caterer but he did say this on his podcast and I have a very good memory. You dismantled that theory very well, it makes no sense for somebody to know that much whilst catering unless people in various places and with different connections were feeding her information. But that sound highly unlikely.

It's all kicking off with John Doe again. How dare he drive a dagger through CDAN's heart?

R240 Nice to see at least somebody from CDAN taking notice of the masses at long last. Tick tock Enty....

John Doe has just made his Twitter account private. ("NOT ACCEPTING NEW FOLLOWERS"). I guess that he's now receiving a bunch of replies or DMs that may border on the agressive side for casting doubts on the Himmmm material.

I can also confirm that some messages on the Facebook public group were deleted.

R242 Yes, but some are posting in the podcast group, do you know that one? And whaddya know, a certain people are still defending him and replying to posters who mention TG in a negative light.

Catering to the right-wing nut jobs did the site in. Once they had all those loons obsessed with every celebrity being a pedo and murdering to cover it up, it drove away any relatively normal people there just for everyday gossip. Now they are stuck with those people and it's what they deserve.

Yep, the whole concept of CDAN has jumped the shark.

Am I crazy or has Enty admitted in the past that he is Australian?

Here.

It's a shame all the decent people with morals leave and lying fraudsters stay. Good luck to John Doe.

Eh, John Doe is a wing nut in his own right. I do give him credit for admitting he was wrong about Enty/HIMMMM. But he isn't a good person.

So someone updated TG's IMDB page with his death date but all the fake info about Legendary Pictures and Anonymous Content is still there.

R250 I submitted the update to IMDb. I didn't try to "correct" the bio because:

1) I would have to provide some kind of justification or evidence. There's very little online information available on TG otherwise. While I had an actual obituary to send them with the DOD.

2) There's not just the bio. Check on the second user review for "Decision", the one from 2014 where the reviewer (who hasn't written another review) claims to have seen it in France in a French dub. "Decision" was a $5,000 amateur film fro 1995, presumably shot on camcorder. I'm French, and I've haven't found any mention of it playing in French theaters or on French TV (while it needed to secure an exploitation visa from the French committee of films). Well, I haven't been to find a single mention of it being screened anywhere, actually. And of course, there's this section, "Had seen the talley griffith who made this film has written, produced and execute many other film TV and music projects- but no features directed since this." Sure, "cafeteria911"...

3) Even if the bio is wrong, keeping it online, at least for a while, doesn't hurt. Is it more useful at this stage to take the risk that somebody takes this bio for real or to let people check the available material on their own?

Aaaaaaannnnndddd..... "John Doe" has deleted his account.

R251 - I understand why you left it there, google is available and one search throws up enough for people to find out the truth. R252 I am not surprised, we know what the fans are like, and they call critiques of the site vultures. There's bit of hypocrisy thrown in with the koolaid. "Trying to destroy a site that's been running for ten years" -a site based on lies, but we'll gloss over that.

By the way, data lounge was name-checked on twitter by some people researching. To those reading - yes, Himmmm did say big daddy was Steve Ross in DMs to various women. Maybe it doesn't check out with what other things he said, but he probably changed the stories over the years. That was the most recent 'big daddy', anyhoo.

We need out own group, Angela. ;)

I guess that within two weeks some people will give a totally different explanation for John Doe leaving, accusing the "vultures" of pressuring him until he had enough, in spite of what he actually wrote in his final message. That's why I prefer to keep all the material online.

I agree that TG would shuffle personas and use the ones that worked the best. Mark Ross may have not been part of the original "Himmmm" line up, the one that played the Hollywood Bowl in 2009, but the identity may have been more effective on some of his targets than Doug Liman for instance, as the tale of the illegitimate son to a big CEO would be in line with the behind-the-scenes stuff he claimed to be doing and conveniently explain the secrecy over his own career. RDJ and early PTA were still probably his main role models and imaginary friends.

Anyway, as I'm in a good mood, here's some verified gossip about Kate Beckinsale, one of Himmmm's big crushes. She was part of a dream cast for a film you most likely never heard of, even if Gary Oldman, Matthew McConaughey, Patricia Arquette and Peter Dinklage star in it. Why haven't you heard of it? Because Oldman plays the part of a dwarf, in a performance that mostly asked him to put his legs into a harness, take place in a hole within a couch with fake little legs hanging from it, or use select angles to give the illusion he was of the proper size. Beckinsale worked on the film, called Tiptoes, for scales, in exchange for being allowed to use her lucky hat in some scenes. The hat turned out to be an extremely ugly wool hat that got the producer (some dude who had made his fortune by creating Cops) to try to get the writer-director removed from production after a few days.

The film is crap, especially as the producer managed to take control of the project after a disastrous early screening and tried to turn an already misguided project from drama to romantic comedy through the grace of editing. And even if they had found Dinklage before he had his breakout part on The Station Agent, they just gave him a supporting part, while a cash-strapped Oldman (he still had debts years after directing Nil by Mouth) would at this point take any part.

Imaginary friends sounds about right, Angela ;) R254. I think RDJ was his favourite. And I agree all the information needs to be out there so people have all of the information - and the truth. But a couple of things I cannot say because it would compromise other people and I don't have permission for that. I will say TG was very sloppy at times with the information he gave out and he gave himself away.

Thank you for the verified tidbit, Angela. lol. I am sure hey would all prefer to keep that one on the down low. I looked it up on youtube and the reviewer called it "an unintentionally offensive movie". Oops.

I'm a longtime CDAN reader who found this thread while searching for info on Himmmm. I followed the Twitter account and became suspicious when he posted a stock photo (from the UK's Photographic Advertising Limited agency) claiming it was his Italian grandmother. At this point I'm much more interested in the truth behind Himmmm and Enty than I am in any of the gossip posted there. I'm delighted to find this forum where others are going down the same rabbit hole.

Himmmm also constantly told me that Mike Ness of Social Distortion was one of the Himmmms.

Now that operation get rid of Himmmm is complete, CDAN and that piece of shit Enty is next. He really needs to take it down and find another way for His lazy add to make money.

Welcome R256 You're in the right place ;) And good sleuthing skills there. Did you do a reverse google image search? There were a lot of photos he would say were from his private stash and then I would find them online. It was pretty easy. Then he started covering himself and saying that his mother sold many of them because he was being questioned.

Seems like he told different people different things R257.

R258 - lol.I knew it

[259] yep, that's exactly what I did (a Google image search). I figured it was pointless to call him on it, though. It's pretty amazing that "Enty" has been able to operate for so long without being unmasked, especially now that he's doing the podcast (which I've never listened to but I'm amazed that he has 3,396 patrons, that's a minimum of $200K a year, which I'm sure is chump change to a REAL entertainment lawyer but still quite a bit of money to most people).

R256 R259 Great job! TG wasn't familiar at all with Google indexing billions of pictures. That's also how I got my evidence for Himmmm. He posted on Twitter at some point a picture lifted from TG's MySpace page, that nobody else had ever used.

Enty is even more useless with technology. The address to contact him is still at Yahoo! (Himmmm, at least, had switched to Proton Mail). Between this, the outdated layout for the website, the absence of actual pictures (in the early years, there were a bunch of pictures every day, but either he had no clearances and had to stop or he didn't want to pay a agency for licensing anymore after blind items took over for comments and traffic), it all suggests a one-man operation aimed at minimal costs rather than taking advantage of an entire conservative group, as Louise Mensch would assume.

Looks like comment moderation at CDAN has been turned on again. (The last several posts have 0 comments.) Wonder if anybody tried posting a comment about the John Doe Twitter controversy and they're trying to shut it down?

Wouldn't surprise me, R262. Oh, the irony... Post all the gossip-mongering you want but censor questions about your site. Now the boot is on the other foot.

R261 - It's easy to find photos, even the rare ones. You can fool people for some of the time..you know the old saying. There's a website which has a lot of photos from various filming locations and celebrity hotspots, etc.. And one of them was.. RDJ's offices. Easily accessible and photos easily obtainable from the website. I am pretty sure he used this site, too.

Oop... and now John Doe is back and calling out a few of the 'imaginative posts'. Nice one, John!

I found a blog post that Talley wrote back in 2006. If this is true -- and if there's one thing that's clear, it's that what he said online could not be trusted -- it's quite tragic.

Fuck Himmmm, the battle has been won. Time to go to work on that fraud Enty.

R264 Hell hath no fury like a John Doe scorned...

R265 I don't think it's true. If he had a very precise condition, you could be sure that people in the know, like the family and close friends, would have mentioned this every time one of his online personas was making waves, to warn others that they shouldn't believe this because of his condition. When he was exposed as Himmmm in 2012, for instance, the family just needed to make a statement asking for privacy due to his condition that caused him to invent unreliable stories. It would have killed the speculation at this time. Notice that he doesn't really describe his own experience, he mostly puts together some documentation he found online and adds then that it matches his own symptoms once again.

It's more likely that he had something more common, like bipolar disorder, plus some substance abuse.

That said, the guy was definitely in a lot of pain. He wrote for years stories about incest, violence, rape and murder (and the stories started to take a very dark turn by 2012), most likely not for money. That denotes at least some kind of affinities and identification to some extreme pain.

Was it known that TG was ArisBlane before? Just started following this shit storm!

Aris Blane was an alias that he used around 2006 and that was identified in 2012. He mostly used it for online dating or talking about his love life. He had put together for Aris a long backstory about the love of his life, Jessilynn, killed in a car accident when she was just 19. Or she was the love of his life but she was raped and murdered, pushing Aris towards heroin addiction and suicide before he recovered. Or she was the love of his life, but she was a cunt and left him, breaking his heart in the process. He even had pictures of him with this mystery woman (so she exists, she's not the woman who was mother of his children, but her name definitely wasn't Jessilynn Brooke Suordashian). The blog he started and where he talks about the damage his lesion creates may actually be an attempt at reaching out at his ex or getting even with her (it's complicated and it may have changed after a couple entries).

"Blane" was also credited as the co-editor (with TG) of TG's feature film from 1995. It's weird that he picked an alias specifically for a second editor, but it all could be another fabrication he added to the entry and there was just one name in the actual credits for the film.

Fascinating. With every click I fall deeper down the hole!

I've read CDAN on and off for years and took everything with a giant grain of salt. I've come to the conclusion that Enty did work for an entertainment lawyer at one point (probably as a clerical worker) and got his idea to start the blog from that. The site is possibly a conduit for lawyers working up cases against celebrities to get them to cough up quick settlements and make the blind items/rumours go away.

To my knowledge, there hasn't been any major content deleted from the site. I assumed that there was, because I couldn't gain access to some of the 2016 blind items on Trump from the AGC list (which were all anti-Trump), but it turns out that AGC still gives the original URL, while the content was moved to Blogger, with new URLs.

Regardless of the ton of eyebrow-raising material on TG, we shouldn't forget that he was somebody ill, who hurt several women by catfishing them, but who also was caught in a lot of pain and took his own life.

I'll try to be as neutral as possible. The real point is that CDAN, that many supporters still regard as a reliable source for dirt on celebrities, posted during most of his existence material that TG wrote specifically for the blog, some of it being possibly based on stories he might have heard (he could have transposed the setting) or some educated guesses based on the news, but most of it being fictional. TG was living in Virginia and hasn't had any access to actual sources, as he had no showbiz connections, no famous or powerful friends in touch with him. The "four identity" stuff was a way for him to walk a mile in the shoes of people he identified with, and to deflect inconsistencies (if details didn't match up between two different stories, he could argue that they came from two different Himmmms).

TG had signed a few blind items on CDAN, but he also provided Enty with a lot of stories that Enty would just rephrase to turn them into blind items that were uncredited to anybody particular. Given the speed at which TG would work (which Enty acknowledges in the podcast that was supposed to serve as a tribute to "one of the Himmmms"), he provided hundreds, possibly thousands, of stories between 2008 and 2018. Most of the particularly long blind items, especially the ones with a laundry list of names, were probably supplied by TG. As a result, one should have doubts not just on the material credited to "Himmmm", but also on most of the blog output.

And the fact that Enty posted so much of this material also cast doubts on basically everything he's posted, given that his other sources may be just as unreliable as "Himmmm" or that he may deliberately create or accept fake stories to get traffic. Enty had many clues to understand that his main provider was most likely somebody who just posed as an industry insider. If he never bothered to do this, what does this say about the rest of the blind items?

WOW. Check this board out. Somebody took time to gather a collection of Himmmm tweets into categories for all the claims he made over time. It really is something to see them all together in this way.

R273 And you have to log in, haha.

This is basically an archive of screen caps of tweets and comments by "Himmmm", with some reverse image searching applied, intended to debunk his many lies. The person who did all this posted their finding between February and April of this year, so this is fully legit, and not a scam.

If you don't feel like registering....

Andy Ross!!!!!

Seriously, even a Nigerian scam would be more believable than his claims. They are really ridiculous.

And the canonical list of "Himmmms" (at least around 9pm one particular day) would be:

Andy Ross, illegitimate son of Steve Ross, the late founder and CEO of Time Warner (why would he have his father's name if he was not recognized? Also, Steve Ross didn't have an affair with just a commoner, but with an heiress, of course). Andy was most likely just the old TG the producer with a name and bio change after 2012, intended to prevent people from googling his real name and finding details about him.

Robert Downey Jr, plus Susan ("Herrrr"), whom "Andy" had dated.

Simon Kinberg, screenwriter on the first Sherlock Holmes film (he also worked a few times with Bryan Singer on the X-Men franchise, but people didn't seem to notice the Kinberg-Singer connections...)

Rob Cavallo (record producer, briefly chairman of WB Records, long after Time Warner had actually sold the music division, even if "Andy" was the single largest shareholder in "Time Warner-WB" (sic))

Paul Thomas Anderson

Jon Farriss (drummer to INXS)

This also makes "Himmmm" about half Jewish (RDJ is partially Jewish, Susan is Jewish, Steve Ross was born Rechnitz, Simon Kinberg is Jewish), even more if you include Doug Liman.

Here is where his alterego lavishes his real self in praise. It is like Inception. He wrote that one too, right?

Inception!?! Let's say Tropic Thunder's Kirk Lazarus instead...

"I know who I am. I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!"

R280 And the irony of RDJ, just stop, it is TOO MUCH!

Well, we have all heard about the stories and the tomfoolery but now we see it in screenshot form lol I am glad the Steve Ross stuff was shown because I had mentioned this earlier on and it confirms that story.

lol @Angela - Not the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude. I'm dead. haha! And he kicked Brett Ratner in the teeth! He's a damn hero! Seriously, though people actually bought this shit?? I think you mentioned bipolar earlier and I seriously there's a form of mania going on here.

I am going to have a look at that site.

Oh, and John Taylor was a Himmmm at some point. He was definitely using that one and messaging women pretending that he was JT.

He was a good writer and I think many of his stories seemed just plausible enough. The one Himmmm blind item that I'll never forget is the tale of the giant stash of celebrity porno kept hidden in a vault underneath the Playboy Mansion. I mean, considering how many famous people visited the place over the decades, it's not completely unbelievable to think that Hugh Hefner might have accumulated a lot of photos & video of celebs behaving badly.

I don't understand much of this. When I was off work ill and bored i saw a lot of reference to CDAN for a bit of fun gossip. I saw the Himmm one about Kim Wilde and knew it was bollocks . It wa the comments that made me really shocked. People were promoting a site that allowed all comments to claim that :

gay man = paedophile

jewish man = paedophile

muslim man = paedophile

female they dislike = prostitute

other females drug addicts.

A vile website.

Ever since it was revealed that Talley Griffith was probably one of the Himmmms back in 2012 or so, I have assumed it was all just the work of that one mentally ill fabulist. All the Himmmms shared the same writing style. He desperately wished he could have a real piece of the Hollywood glamour, culimating in writing elaborate fan fiction and convincing others it was true. Sad that it had to end this way though.

Something I found today was that Talley had a weird political rant under his own name in the comments here. I'm not saying he's wrong about everything, but: removing the 10 Commandments from government property (because, you know, the Constitution and everything--it's not anti-Christian, it's pro-freedom of religion)--that's precisely equivalent to "calling someone a faggot" or "picking on Jews"? Yikes. I remember Himmmm had a whole post basically defending Mel Gibson.

R286 - They did all sound the same. I remember the night 'John Taylor' took over the tweets. He did try to make it look like a British person with 'luv' scattered here and there. Assuming all Brits say 'luv', which they do not lol John is from Birmingham, not London. And even then, it's a very cockney phrase.

R287 And the object of his ire was supposed rigged ballots at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the RnR HoF being the very issue that nobody but boomers gives a fuck about. Yes, it's some kind of honor, but's hardly a meaningful one. Nobody will buy a CD or a ticket to a show because it's RnR Hall of Famers so-and-so. It's just an opportunity for middle-aged white dudes to complain every year about Jethro Tull not being there, while they have too many rap acts inducted. And the day the Tull finally gets in will be the day where they'll decide that it is Bread or Scorpions that deserve a shot, and that they should start a different Hall of Fame about rap artists, so they can be separate but equal.

R288 That's cute! Was there some "guv'nor" when 'John Taylor' took over?

Anyway, all this stuff about 'Andy Ross', being the largest single shareholder to Time Warner, was used on Drew Barrymore in a Himmmm blind item from October 2017. I'm attaching a link to the reveal. There was apparently some shared inspiration between the stories Himmmm wrote about random celebrities and his fictional bios. NB: The "Himmmm" from the comments was a troll.

R288 In my head I can hear that as Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins. Cor blimey guvnuh, up the apples and pears!

Haha. R289 and R290. I was surprised there wasn't a guvnor. I rarely hear that I hear it more from Ru Paul on Drag race than I do anyone else around these parts. I think Ru picked it up from taxi drivers lol.

I had a poke around the site, it's not been updated for a while but it has a lot in there.

That's interesting, Angela. I heard a little about the troll and a big hoo-ha on Twitter and the threatening of legal action but I had mostly tuned out of the site by that point. The troller being trolled, a little bit of irony there. "So you're a person with aliases and a troll is pretending to be your alias?" I wonder if Enty helped him out with that one being a lawyer and all. Ha.

I read some of the DMs he sent to people and, holy shit, talk about unhinged!

John Doe has deleted again.

R291 At this point, the original "Himmmm" account had long left the comments section, so it wasn't hard to see that it was an impersonator (of an impersonator).

The posts have remained there untouched. I doubt that Enty actually browses the comments in real time. All of his articles are posted on an automated schedule, usually every fifteen minutes (for instance, 8:15am, 8:30am, 8:45am, etc.) That suggests he puts together the content on the night before. And it's also obvious (I've talked a little about it here) that he's indeed not that great with technology and computer tools.

The comments have been "monitored" a couple of times this week, but this has probably nothing to see with Himmmm, John Doe or any of that controversy. This is more a case of Tricia being harassed and calling Enty to her rescue. Moderation did allow him to scrub a few tale-telling posts, but it was mostly to protect the site mascot. Otherwise, comments sent were validated three hours later in bulk, that kind of stuff.

As were on the 2nd day of the month, we are finally getting feedback on the subscribers number compared to a month earlier. The Patreon podcast only lost 185 subscribers, at 3,150, so no huge "Himmmm was a fraud" effect. That's on the usual pace this year. Sure, Enty managed to keep the numbers flat in July and August, but it was mostly due to interest over Jeffrey Epstein.

The John Doe situation is quite interesting, given that he was mostly attacked by former allies, who suggested he had been turned by TPTB. Anyway, here's a sample of his likely inner thoughts (with a cockney accent).

I was the one posting as Himmmm on CDAN. I was fucking with him on Twitter too. He told me the FBI was closing in on me a couple times. I got bored of messing with him after awhile and he posted his message about his people handling it, that got me started in on him again. One night he wrote me like a 10,000 word essay about how bad I was and how good he was. He went silent for a stretch when I told him I was going to expose him to his family and friends. I’m going to miss that silly fucker and his tall tales.

R293 - Enty definitely used to read the comments or some of them at least, although I am not sure how much. I once made a comment about another gossip site that was very, very specific and he made a joke about it in a post the next day. It was too much of a coincidence. So, he hasn't made too much of a loss to his subscriber count, then! Also, I heard people saying John Doe was compromised, but they're also part of the Himmmm club, no surprises there. Kool-aid for life. Hah, I love Johnny Rotten.

R294 - are you the person who is currently on twitter with the same username you're using here?

I unsubscribed to his Patreon. There are too many Audiobooks & Podcasts for me to choose from, that don’t make me question, well, everything.

I want more details about the “essay” & what TG wrote to you. Please!

This is the end of the road for me. My work is done. Talley is gone for better or worse. We had some good times together. He was a real piece of shit but I loved him for it. Let’s be honest, the guy had a hell of a imagination and a set of balls. He fucked so many women because of his “Himmmm” persona, you almost have to respect his commitment to the character. I enjoyed the years of cat and mouse with him but there really is nothing left to say. The good guys won and our enemy is dead. Thanks for the memories Talley, its been interesting.

R297 I can understand that he was your enemy, but was TG "our enemy"? He was a deranged individual, who had a compulsive need to spread lies over the years, and, as it turns up, was also toxic and harmful to women online (I'm not sure at all that he even met them in person). But he also probably had some mental disorder, and it looks like he hadn't actually contributed to CDAN in over a year. I can't rejoice over his death. That was simply some waste of a life.

Himmmm was obsessed by a few celebrities, bordering on stalking (Hayden Pannetiere), and he obviously tried to destroy a few other ones (Kirk Douglas, Vicky Cornell, Robert Wagner, etc.). Once again, the guy was convincing, but delusional.

If there's to my eyes somebody who deserves scorn and hatred, it's Enty, who's fully responsible for all the content posted over the years at CDAN and who's deliberately comforting his readers' worst instincts and prejudices, as R285 quite brilliantly summed it up. He offered a channel for TG's delusions (which may have contributed to his condition), got a lot of attention and exposure through the Himmmm over the years, and now makes money out of pure hatred, with or without Himmmm. He validates any nutjob's theory on celebrities and child molestation, almost every successful woman is talentless and has slept her way to the top (don't forget he mostly caters to an audience of housewives), and there isn't even a single real note of humor (while Himmmm tended at least to try to have fun).

I agree, Angela. I think Enty is far worse, for the reasons you state. That site has a disclaimer but we know that people take it seriously and it can damage reputations. Plus I have thought for a while now that he was fully aware of the fake blinds and he let it pass because it gave the site attention. I'm crediting him as smart enough to have sensed something, and that is not far fetched to think he knew or realised that he was dealing with somebody who was not well and he could have put a stop to it. Maybe you will disagree but that's my opinion.

I am not excusing TG's behaviour at all but clearly was not well and Enty should never have entertained it because it fed into the delusion and probably made it worse. I don't see it as a victory, I think it's really tragic and a shame he couldn't get the help he needed. He's also not here anymore. I would also worry about seeing somebody using his name on a platform where his daughter can see it. She doesn't deserve to suffer the torture of what he did.

R296 Me too! R294, inquiring minds wanna know!

All the news today about the CGI James Dean reminds me of the CDAN blind about Dean faking his own death. (I believe it was "revealed" earlier this year.)

R301 The CGI James Dean story is most definitely a stunt announcement that will never result in an actual movie getting produced. It's just an obscure production company trying to get attention. Now, I would be more impressed with a film that would be an all-CGI recreation of James Deen, given the issues involved for the "screen partner".

Here's the original blind from last year.

The Himmmm Twitter account was deleted

Remember CDAN's dumbass readers harrassed the family of the guy Enty implied was James Dean. The shit he does is not harmless.

Some discussion of the himmmm situation here -- obviously a lot of CDAN readers are just finding out about it...

I wonder how one goes about getting an account removed - family and loved ones, I assume. I think that's sensible.

Enty isn't going to stop as long as he is making money. No shame at all. The truth is getting out so it is up to people to decide for themselves now.

I've had a few conversations with some of the CDAN readers/Facebook group contributors, who had expressed their doubts about the "Himmmm" material. One of them raised a very good question.

Why would Enty acknowledge (on the site and on the podcast) the death of "one of the Himmmms" if he has some idea that the guy was a fraud?

My guess is that he wanted to connect a few dots before people would connect some dots differently on their own. Himmmm's social media would never get new posts. After a few days or weeks, someone would have also found by googling on TG that he had passed away, and there would have been questions.

All that matters to Enty is to keep as many subscribers as possible for as long as possible. By providing them an explanation (even if it's extremely unsatisfying and doesn't address some glaring issues that have come up since), they'll be more willing to assume that there are three other "Himmmms" who are mourning their dear friend and who have apparently decided to stop posting stuff without him, etc.

R306 It just takes somebody with access to his phone or his PC, especially the passwords, to get the account deleted.

Good point, Angela. Of course Enty had to respond due to the reasons you stated. He decided to still play along with his 'one Himmmmm has passed' narrative and hoped it would be enough for his audience, and mostly it has for the staunch supporters who, like you say, can rationalise the ceasing of posts from the supposed Himmmm's. The fact he has been silent since then is the most telling, he will not address any of the accusations because he damn well knows. It's all about the money for him, no matter whose reputation he smears.

Reading your post on the thread you linked, Angela. A good summary. Although I am sure it pisses a lot of people off. :)

Actually, I wasn't the one who posted the link there. I even found the conversation on my own, and found the link here later.

I assumed that my post would be deleted. What's [b]very[/b] interesting is that a few other posts in the same conversation have been deleted. Someone had answered to me that they totally expected me to jump on this bandwagon, because I'm so predictable and I spend so much time on the site, I replied that it would be more interesting to talk about the issue itself than to make personal attacks. This exchange was deleted. A few positive reactions to my post were indeed preserved. Maybe there's indeed an "Entern" handling moderation who's happy to work against the site...

So, they left your response but deleted others? Maybe it is to the give the illusion that you're just a minority cynic. I saw a couple of the positive reactions, also.

This was a good one:

"So his site has less than zero credibility then, effectively. KPop, Netflix conspiracies and rehashed Daily Mail stories dressed up as "blinds". Typical. I think it's time CDAN was put to bed. It serves no purpose, offers no insight."

I'd say it's like The National Enquirer, but maybe even worse.

That CDAN site gets quoted everywhere as if it is fact . I see it a lot . That is bloody scary

R310 The National Enquirer is still much worse. It is read by many more people, and we now all know that it blackmails celebrities and kills stories that would paint in a bad light Trump and possibly other friends of David Pecker.

The interesting thing is that CDAN has rarely, if ever, said a bad word about the Enquirer, while it routinely mocks TMZ or People. When there was the blackmail attempt on Jeff Bezos, Enty would only comment on the adultery, which was, by far, the least interesting aspect of this story. Come on, they actually tried to blackmail the richest person in the world! Now, that's something I'd be curious to read about, not the dick pics. It's obvious that he sides with the magazine and targets its readers.

R305 I tried to post a comment on that thread but moderation has been switched on and it unsurprisingly didn’t make the cut! Here is what I wrote:

Enty seems to have a habit of using mentally ill people for clicks. Just look at the dancing boy debacle and the alleged emails from Amanda Bynes. All it took was a quick google search a few years back for me to find plenty of convincing evidence of who Himmmm was. I can’t believe Enty didn’t know. Imo Enty purposely enabled and exploited TG, as did all who didn’t question his blatantly obvious lies. TG didn’t need his delusions encouraged, he needed psychiatric help. He needed intervention. His manic episodes were so transparent, especially during his final rant on here and with regularity on twitter. I know another woman who was catfished on twitter by him, he was very charming at first but then became obsessive and controlling with her. He scared her to the point where she constantly felt like she was being watched or followed, that he was so powerful he could make her disappear. After 10 months caught in a very toxic relationship with him she finally cut him off, changed all her accounts and contact details. Then a few days later he committed suicide and now she’s blaming herself for that. She was certain Himmmm was kosher because of the credibility Enty gave to him via this website. I bet there are many others like her out there.

Btw The woman I speak of isn’t the same one who has been very vocal on twitter about being Talley’s girlfriend. Another friend who communicated regularly by DM with Himmmm told me that he referred to the females who fawned over him and hung on his every word as his “Harem of sycophants” Personally I stopped reading his twitter feed a while ago, it made me uncomfortable, like watching a car crash. This ending felt inevitable.

R313 Can't blame you.

Narcissist Harem.

So R313, he was seeing a few women, or one other woman at least, well as the main one we know about? Well, I do believe it. I don't know how anyone can defend him after that, but they sure will and they'll probably say it's untrue (I hope she kept screenshots). I hope she is okay and she cannot blame herself for his illness. The deeper issue is the reason he killed himself and that is mental illness. She either had to hurt herself by carrying on or cut him off , and she had to look out for number one. Having been in a relationship with a sociopath he'd have flung me in front of a bus yet I felt bad for 'abandoning' him.

Valid point R312. I've never really read the Enquirer but I had n idea they blackmailed people. That's sick. btw check your DMS on the Himmmm forum.

Don't worry, I've read your DM, but I'll only be able to reply to you this weekend, as I have a ton of work until today.

R318. No worries! It was just an extra bit of info for you, it may have been useful, or maybe not!

(316) Sorry that it’s taken me a while to reply, I’ve been spending a lot of time with the friend in question. Yes, I know for a fact that he called her his girlfriend and one and only. He said he flirted with women on twitter, but claimed it was necessary for “his brand” to keep his fans happy! She has receipts in every way possible, voicemails, video messages, pictures, hand written letters, you name it! Some of them are extremely shocking, especially the voicemails he’d leave if she didn’t answer his calls quick enough. She collected it all as evidence in fear that something would happen to her. He could be both charming and cruel depending on his state of mind, I have no doubt that he was very mentally ill. I think she’s just starting to realise that he really is gone and the extent of his lies, she’s swinging from sadness/pity to anger and back. She is starting to understand that it wasn’t her fault but I think she’ll be in therapy for quite a while. At least things seem to have quietened and hopefully all those who’ve been affected can start to heal.

Sorry, that reply was to [R316]

I wish your friend well and I hope she heals and finds peace very soon, you area good friend helping her through this. I also wish this to his other victims, also - may they find truth and peace because nobody deserves that treatment.

I’m actually much angrier at Enty than TG, Talley was genuinely mentally ill. Enty needs to take some responsibility, he exploited and enabled Talley, my friend (and others too) wouldn’t have trusted him if Enty hadn’t given him validation.

(R322) Thank you for your kind words.

R323 I do agree about Enty, he has responsibility here for all the people who believed TG was the mystery famous guy. I am sorry for your friend. Can I clarify that your friend is not the woman on twitter who publically says she was with him and who had it out with the daughter.

R324 No, my friend is definitely not the woman on twitter and she’d never disrespect a young girl who has lost her father in such a way. No matter what harm TG caused, it’s not his family’s fault and they don’t deserve their privacy or grief infringed upon. That is one of the reasons that my friend has kept a dignified silence, she understands that his family are suffering enough.

R325 I feel for your friend and totally agreed with your opinion about Enty. Enty is responsible for allowing it and giving TG a platform to cause havoc and he stays silent. What a douche. Does the Twitter woman know about your friend? Chances are she wouldn't believe her anyway. I hope your friend gets all the help and care she needs.

R326 As far as I’m aware the twitter woman doesn’t know about her. My friend knew he was flirting with her (and others) but he told her it was nothing serious, that he was just toying with them. She said he’d make some pretty crude comments about these other women and found their desperation and gullibility hilarious. He was probably saying the same type of things about her to others. There were so many red flags but she always made excuses for him until it got really out of hand. When she finally cut him off and opened up to me it was almost like I’d imagine someone would be if they’d just left a cult, she wasn’t and still isn’t the person she used to be; but hopefully with time she’ll heal.

Sorry btw Angela, I feel like I’ve pretty much killed this thread with the darkness of my posts, I just needed somewhere to vent. Thank you though for being a voice of reason on cdan, that takes balls, generally speaking they are not the most welcoming or inclusive bunch! Anyone who dares go against the grain immediately gets called a bot or a shill. I find it creepy that the site is now basically child abuse fantasies dreamt up by either the mentally ill (Talley or DB) or a pretend lawyer. So many of the readers consider themselves ultra woke, but don’t even question the obvious holes in the stories and couldn’t be bothered to conduct the 5 minute search it took on google to discover the overwhelming evidence that Himmmm was always just plain old Talley Griffith.

Don't worry, R328, you didn't kill anything. It was expected that the topic would eventually die down. It happened before, a few days after I started the thread. It was merely a coincidence that a week or so later there was the announcement about "Himmmm", which revived it. If this topic hadn't been there, somebody else would have started a new one.

And your posts offered us a welcomed perspective on what the site caused, directly or indirectly. My point of view (and I guess other people may relate to that) had always been quite abstract. I merely saw "Himmmm" or Enty from the outside, with the damage they are causing on celebrities' reputation, or how Enty tries to cater to his hardcore audience. You've brought us a more personal perspective on the actual harm they've caused to women, and you've managed to stay balanced, which isn't easy when it's about people who are that destructive and hurt people you know. It's really been an eye-opener.

Anyway, a short update. I've been following the stats about Enty's Patreon. There's always a dip around the end of the month, when people cancel their subscription before being charged for the next month. And then, the numbers gradually grow, as 100-150 new people want to get access to the podcasts over the course of the month. At the end of October, the dip happened as usual, but since then the numbers have stayed almost flat, which means that new people are more reluctant to go on board and pay. So, maybe TG's death is actually affecting the site's reputation. You can see it there on this page, when you click for the Patreon Daily graph on a 6m or YTD perspective. There was a bump caused by Epstein's arrest in July, another one caused by his death in August, but the flatlining isn't what happens on a "regular month".

Wow Angela [R329], your post from 8 hours ago shows Enty as the #37 podcast and 3,461 patrons. As of right now it's down to #45/3,159. Will it dip below 3,000 by the end of November? Quite a comedown from a high of almost 5,500 in January. I've never listened, but I would imagine it all gets pretty repetitive day after day. Still a lot of $$$ coming in, though.

R327 I am so sorry for your friend. I hope she can heal. It sucks not to get closure but I guess at least she knows she got out and protected herself ahead of time. I do wander if there are more women out there in the same situation . From what I hear he did love to private message.

R331 I have the exact same question. There was an escalation in his attitude, but the seeds were also planted long ago.

2008: Discovers CDAN and contacts Enty (as detailed in his "tribute" podcast). Starts sending him stories that Enty rephrases as blind items (apparently, the first story was about Hayden Panettiere).

2010: Starts posting in the comments, regals people with his "first-hand" stories about Denise Richards, Liv Tyler, brags about his industry connections, shares his e-mail

March 2012: Becomes much more active in the comments section. Posts there a couple of stories about Natalie Wood and Kirk Douglas, Hayden P. (once again), implies he knows RDJ very, very well, and that he's been the source for a few other stories. People go nuts, TG is quickly outed, and leaves the site. I have no idea if the stories were stuff vetoed by Enty as they were too graphic, or a deliberate attempt at creating publicity for the site.

Fall 2012: Himmmm is back in the comments, but keeps a low profile. Engages with the other readers, may have shared his e-mail a few times.

The "dark years" (when the site had switched to a different platform, where the comments were a genuine mess). No Himmmm. May have kept on providing stories for Enty.

2017: The site is back at Blogger, and Himmmm resumes sending Enty stories on a regular base.

October 2017: Enty starts to label the blind items provided by Himmmm. At some point, there's something like 30 or 50 Himmmm blind items by week.

Early 2018: In parallel to the "shorter" blinds, Himmmm mentions that he will retire in a couple of months and offers four long stories as a parting gift.

Fall 2018: Himmmm joins Twitter. Quickly starts DM'ing women and organizing private groups.

February 2019: Himmmm joins Medium, to post his longer stories.

October 2019: TG commits suicide.

It's obvious that he wanted to talk privately with people as "Himmmm" as early as 2010. You don't share your e-mail with strangers otherwise. Yet, there have been no reports about his behavior on CDAN, and this shit is anything but moderated.

Enty is posting "big blind" reveals today in honor of Black Friday. Wonder how many of them came from Himmmm. (He just revealed a Chris Cornell blind.)

When they say on that site that all celebrity suicides are really murder, usually connected to knowledge of child abuse, did those stories stem from this man? Also was he planning on having that as his legacy..that he was offed as an exposer of abuse? The whole thing is insane. like a conspiracy site that is eating itself.

Any Himmmm item posted by Enty from now on as an anniversary or reveal should clearly be marked FICTITIOUS.

r335, any and all posts from Enty are fictitious. Sad thing is some people believe they are true.

At least some commenters are calling B.S. on some of the Black Friday reveals, like #12, and #17, the one about Metallica.

He printed a blind smearing Graham Chapman. Are they going to go through all famous gay men and call them pedos? They are fucking sick.

r338, yes, on that website all famous gay men abuse young boys, as do all jewish men. Welcome back to the 1930's

R335 Let's phrase it in a different way.

Enty posted made-up stories supplied to him by TG aka "Himmmm" for 10 years. There are hundreds of them, not just the one attributed to him but a whole lot of them that were uncredited between 2008 and 2017. That could make more than a thousand stories over the years, as TG was able to write 30-50 blind items a week. As early as 2012, other people had unmasked Himmmm and shown that he was just a dude from Virginia who wasn't living in LA and didn't have any real connection to the entertainment industry. By the way, the mere amount of dirt a supposed A-lister (or four or twelve of them) was willing to share to somebody he hadn't even met is staggering. When you're that busy finding gossip and writing about it, it's puzzling that you have time for an actual career. Yet, either by stupidity or by cynicism, Enty kept on publishing his stories for six more years.

Do you really think that the rest of the content he has been posting comes from trustable sources, is actually checked and is legit? Have you ever tried to read a "Dancing Boy" blind item? Do you remember last year when Enty posted the "truth" about Jayme Closs (her parents were in debt, they "sold" her twice, and one of the buyer noticed he had been double-crossed)?

Most of, or more accurately almost all of the content, is made-up. It's usually supplied by readers who have an axe to grind, with liberal celebrities, or made up by Enty. From time to time we have hearsay, urban legends, or just educated guesses that turn up to be right, but Enty's goal has never been accuracy, it's been making money. Currently, he's mostly relying on a group of right-wing people and Trump supporters, the same kind of bunch that buys QAnon stories. They assume that Hollywood is ruled by pedophiles and that there's a huge child trafficking operation at work (or they want to promote that narrative to smear these celebrities). Enty confirms their "worst fears", and they're happy to subscribe to his paying podcast, where he will say the same thing over and over again.

r340. Thankk you for trying to get the truth out and right a huge wrong. I won't pollute my computer with that evil place but I still now and again see "Enty says" and it makes me cross. I have a mental image of two or three of those commentators....

You and me both, R341. I did not even bother looking at those blinds as I know they are pathetic and it just pisses me off.

And thanks to you Angela for always speaking up, maybe you should start handing out tinfoil hats to the readers, I can't believe people actually believe that rubbish.

Weird that Enty shills so hard for the right wing audience when he’s a Dem.

His undoing was to start first the yachting stories, then the child molestation blinds.

I can get why he did yachting stories. His readership mostly consists of women, and it was basically an expansion of the casting couch blinds. He basically implied that every successful female celebrity had to have sex to reach their place at the top, which may delight his readers, who regard themselves as better than that. Actresses like Jennifer Lawrence have always attracted a disproportionate amount of hatred and jealousy.

Then, there were the child molestation stories, which have evolved from denouncing a few known creeps who prefer barely legal women (James Woods, Jon Voight, Morgan Freeman, James Franco, etc.) to wider claims. It might have been deliberate, as accusing people of being pedophiles without any actual evidence is a favorite method by the alt-right, it might have been coincidental, but it definitely triggered the most conservative readers around 2016-2017, and caused Enty to play on that string even more.

Another turning point was the fall of 2017 when the sex scandals started to hit Weinstein or Spacey. It drove a huge lot of traffic to the site, but Enty also had to offer something new to stay relevant, while his previous blind items were quite tame compared to what legitimate journalists had uncovered. That's when he started to put together the Steven Spielberg and the David Geffen blind items (with some extra Oprah Winfrey and Ryan Murphy) about child trafficking. Since then, he's been trying to make more and more outrageous claims about the situation, and it rings false. But not to his current hardcore audience.

Enty may be a Dem, but there's one thing he has in common with the real entertainment industry. Almost everybody is a liberal, in conversations and in theory, but most of them just go with the flow because they don't want to stand out. When Enty noticed that Trumpers could be a gold mine to him, he embraced it, and he may just not want to see that he's enabled some of the worst people on the Internet.

Anyway, we have the stats for Nov. 1, and the number of Patreon patrons has dipped for the first time below the 3,000 line. They were 4,000 in June and nearly 5,750 in January, at the podcast peak. It will be interesting to see if he keeps on focusing on Jeffrey Epstein or if he tries to find another lead villain to renew interest.

People need to remember that being a Dem and a liberal when it comes to social issues (gays marrying, women's rights etc.) is one thing, but if you are a rich socially liberal Dem everything else is about your money, how to make more, pay less taxes and maintain your privilege. That's the problem with the Democratic party there are rich people in the party who will vote their wealthy privilege and fuck the rest of us.

There needs to be another party for true Democrats that believe in real Democratic policy that helps the underprivileged and middle class. Looking to the Dem party as it exists now ain't going to get that done.

Angela, this makes total sense. Backed up by him doing an episode of the fast fading podcast where he literally just reads checkout line tabloid magazines for an hour. Yeah really.

Targeting actresses for sexual reasons as to their success—and yet rarely identifying the men in these situations—fits completely. I wonder how he feels about his true political leanings when his readership have tipped fully into the MAGA side of the scales.

R345 Oh yeah, cash is definitely king. Forget the principles once you are rolling in green. Maybe that is what has happened to Enty himself. His pockets really started filling with the return of Himmmm, the fall of Harvey, the hit rate on the blog and the start of the podcast. Now he’s just phoning it in. Bernie would not be happy.

I've always wondered what stops Enty form being sued for lible?

I'm not familiar with US law but once he reveals a blind isn't that libleous? Or does the blame lie on whoever sent the blind in the first place?

With defamation or slander the plaintiff has to prove that it is false and damaging to their reputation:

"To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the person or entity who is the subject of the statement."

Enty does indeed post slanderous things but he also has a disclaimer at the bottom of his site saying it is fiction..I assume that can be used to cover his ass...correct me if i am wrong.

CRAZY DAYS AND NIGHTS IS A GOSSIP SITE. THE SITE PUBLISHES RUMORS, CONJECTURE, AND FICTION. IN ADDITION TO ACCURATELY REPORTED INFORMATION, CERTAIN SITUATIONS, CHARACTERS AND EVENTS PORTRAYED IN THE BLOG ARE EITHER PRODUCTS OF THE AUTHOR’S IMAGINATION OR ARE USED FICTITIOUSLY. INFORMATION ON THIS SITE MAY CONTAIN ERRORS OR INACCURACIES; THE BLOG’S PROPRIETOR DOES NOT MAKE WARRANTY AS TO THE CORRECTNESS OR RELIABILITY OF THE SITE'S CONTENT. LINKS TO CONTENT ON AND QUOTATION OF MATERIAL FROM OTHER SITES ARE NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CRAZY DAYS AND NIGHTS.

The disclaimer wouldn't have much legal value. If you make serious accusations that affect somebody, you can't retreat behind a mention that it could be fiction.

The real reasons were provided by The NY Post, which did the almost only serious investigation on the site in the press, in 2012.

[quote]So, why hasn’t he been sued yet? ‘Our jobs are hard enough without the fracturing caused by the Internet,” says one LA-based lawyer, who represents an Academy Award-winner. “With an anonymous gossip site, you have to find out who registered it” — Enty’s domain is hidden — and even then, the address could be hopping from computer to computer. Given that news lasts five minutes these days, sometimes the advice is: Don’t do anything.”

[quote]And if a celebrity did sue, the onus would be on them: They’d have to prove that the information was not only false but posted with malicious intent, and invite high-profile media coverage that would last longer than the most outrageous online rumor.

So, first, they'd need to identify Enty for good. And he's done a much better job at protecting his own privacy than at everything else. And the celebrities would need to prove that the rumor was posted with the intent to hurt them.

It is not impossible to get close to identifying Enty already. There is enough clues out there to pretty much nail his real name and online profile.

r350, yes but his minions name names, so would he be responsible?

R351 He is the owner of the site. He reads out blinds and reveals with names on the podcast too, so there is that also.

I guess the best thing is continue Angela's good work, pull anyone up that we see endorsing a hate site.

Anyone taking him to court will get screwed over like Mr Unsworth this week with Musk.

God, Tricia is such a stupid cunt. The drunken bitch has no life.

R354 You know her?

Tricia has attracted a flock of followers and, quite predictably, some haters. There's one person who's been particularly active in doxxing her, and the attacks are actually particularly stupid. It wouldn't be particularly surprising if that particular person had heard about this page (several CDAN "loyalists" already have) and was trying once again to hit on Tricia.

Tricia's ambition is to be the queen of a place that's basically a hateful cesspool and she organizes three or four hours of her life every day around this particular achievement, which is sad enough in itself. I think it's pointless to target individuals on CDAN (except when they're lying, homophobic and racist bigots of course) when it's the place and the content posted there which are repulsive.

If R354 really wants to ridicule Tricia, they just need to highlight that the site is now a collection of poorly written fictional stories about celebrities that just try to comfort her own bigotry and make no sense otherwise. Because the site owner knows perfectly well that people like Tricia are easy to fool, provided you give them the illusion that they're of a privileged crowd that doesn't believe what is in the "mainstream media" and has access to some "inside information" which comes from Enty's ass or the wet dreams of a few readers.

No. I'm not Tricia's stalker. I discovered this site a couple of years ago and CDAN a few months ago. A LOT of the shit on there is crazy and outrageous. I just happened to noticed that she is almost always the first one to comment on nearly every single article. That's how I could tell she had no life.

I thought some mag already outed Enty's identity?

The crazy shit he posts about celebs daily and yet he still claims to have a ton of friends and clients who are celebs. Either he's full of shit or he's biased and plays favorites and never posts stuff about his celeb friends/clients. The former is more likely.

R359 Definitely the former. Over the years, he's alluded to being friends with people such as Kaley Cuoco, Amber Tamblyn or Sandra Bullock. But he's acknowledged in one interview that he wasn't actually an entertainment lawyer, which gives little reason for actresses to socialize with him. Or to acknowledge any connections with him, given the horrors some of their colleagues can see about themselves on the same site.

And you have to remember that this is the guy who posted for a decade the stories submitted by "Himmmm", which were all made up. If you were a guy in LA who had access to tons of friends and celebs, why would you rely on the words of some guy you've never met, who makes a lot of questionable claims and who's been identified by other people as being some nobody from Virginia?

There were a couple dozen "reader blind item" reveals posted yesterday. Obviously anyone can send him a blind item alleging anything at all, and he'll run it.

Today is Jan. 1, one of the two annual reveal days where he posts the "answers" to his "big blinds" (July 4 being the other). I have to admit that even with everything that's been discussed here, I can't resist checking out the site on reveal days... it's always interesting to see what he chooses to spill. In #1 he claims to have gotten inside info about the Golden Globes from Renee Zellweger.

I've just read the Zellwegger reveal. What a bunch of baloney. The HFPA has always been about money, perks, and photo sessions, not sex. Pia Zadora didn't sleep her way to her Golden Globes nomination, her hubby (who was a real estate magnate) invited the members to a few events and parties to make them feel important.

Actually, the only reported case of sexual harassment was about Brendan Fraser, who says that the president of the HFPA, Philip Berk, groped him.

[quote]The story he wants to relay took place, he says, in the summer of 2003, in the Beverly Hills Hotel, at a luncheon held by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, the organization that hosts the Golden Globes. On Fraser's way out of the hotel, he was hailed by Philip Berk, a former president of the HFPA. In the midst of a crowded room, Berk reached out to shake Fraser's hand. Much of what happened next Berk recounted in his memoir and was also reported by Sharon Waxman in The New York Times: He pinched Fraser's ass—in jest, according to Berk. But Fraser says what Berk did was more than a pinch: “His left hand reaches around, grabs my ass cheek, and one of his fingers touches me in the taint. And he starts moving it around.” Fraser says that in this moment he was overcome with panic and fear.[/quote]

You can also appreciate Enty's elastic standards. When Little Women just got a single nomination at the GGs, Enty claimed that it was evidence that the film was bad, apart from Saoirse Ronan's performance. A week later, the GGs were a corrupt organization because they had nominated the boring Irishman (starring reviled at CDAN Robert De Niro).

This Angela person needs to get a life.

R363 Hi E!, and welcome It should be a pleasure to see how much you'll last when you can't count on a few fellow Trumptards...

r363. I applaud them for starting a discussion about a site that promotes homophobic and anti semitic views. If you disagree that that is what it is then defend it .

It's a shit site and attracts losers like every other racist, homophobic site on the internet. It is not worthy of sustained "serious" attention. The Angelas of the world obsess over things they at one time believed had value, and continue to believe have influence. Anyone with a four brain cells can see that CDAN has no value and no influence.

R366 So, let me rephrase it. Your idea of informing a "loser" who criticises a site that "has no value and no influence" is to stalk the guy on CDAN, target him repeatedly, then to check on what he's posted here, on Datalounge, once you heard about it, allude repeatedly on CDAN about his messages here, up until the point you feel compelled to join this particular place to eviscerate once again the same guy...

Seems like a reasonable and mature use of your time, compared for instance to ignoring the "loser", given that "CDAN has no value and no influence"...

Anyway, for anyone who cares, I've been quite upfront about my relationship with CDAN. I didn't mind the site when it was just a gossip blog that had a few regular and obvious targets, even if I already assumed that most of the content was forged or had to be taken with a grain of salt. I had actually followed the "Himmmm is Talley Griffith" 2012 saga from a distance without taking part.

It's only a couple of years ago that I noticed that the site was now boasting an obvious homophobic, misogynist, anti-Semitic and racist agenda, offering its readers opportunities to smear notorious anti-Trump liberal celebrities with accusations that always involved child molestation, complicity of child molestation or murder conspiracies (usually to get rid of child molestation stories). I consider that CDAN still carries "influence" due to its fabricated reputation for having Robert Downey Jr as an occasional source and being on the forefront against Harvey Weinstein. For the record, regarding web rankings in the US, CDAN is still much much popular, and influent (as shown by links references to its content on outside sites) than Datalounge, for instance. And other people have actually shared firsthand stories here where a coworker or a relative would parrot a CDAN blind item while having zero clue otherwise about the people involved in it. That's the very definition of "influence", ffs...

So, nothing in your message makes actual sense. You're spending time yourself on a "shit site that attracts losers", you consider it's a waste of time to attack it, but you care enough to answer every negative comment about it, while suggesting no better use of their time for the people you criticize. Sure, it's "like every other racist, homophobic site", except that these sites aren't usually that popular or don't hide their agenda under the guise of showbiz gossip. My guess is that you're trying to pose as a "cool kid" here, by acknowledging that the site is racist and homophobic, while you actually side with its racist and homophobic views, at least as long as they allow to take down liberal celebrities you can't stand.

I've had basically confirmation that the guy behind R363 and R366 was indeed CDAN poster "E". "E" is already complaining there about the awful reception he got at DL. Here's what he wrote to me yesterday: "Shouldn't you check your "facts" before you start spewing in such a superior manner? This isn't the DL, where apparently your minions take you at your word(s), endless though they may be..."

All of this because, besides my own two posts, R365 (who's apparently all of my minions) wrote a two line message, which was actually quite cordial, in defense of exercising one's right to debate and invited "E" to elaborate if they disagreed. That was the very bullying which was too intense for E to endure...

That's the interesting thing with idiots like "E". What they wrote about me actually describes their own way of thinking. They prefer to be on a few designated places with a few like-minded people to "win" through power play, with everybody else at the place supporting them and taking turns on "correcting" anyone who challenges their views. When they're on some neutral ground and don't have these resources, they're lost on their own, as they're unable to develop any coherent argumenting. Take away all or part of their audience, and they're back at making a few innuendos, just like they had to before November 2016.

Not sure if anyone noticed but John Doe is back again.

I hadn't noticed. For somebody who "learned a lot" from what happened in October, apart from not relying on Enty as a source, it's really business as usual...

Just a short update (which is also an opportuninty to remind everybody that "E" is indeed a piece of shit. Hey, E, go fuck yourself).

The number of Patreon subscribers has been rising steadily for a week, and, at this point, there's been an increase compared to the month before. The explanation is easy to find: Megan and Harry. Enty's put together four podcasts about them in a week. But, before that, Enty had actually polled the readers to get their opinion on the move by the couple. Then, after a few dozens people has submitted their guesses, he started on the next day to post stories that were strangely in line with the consensus he got there (but not too precise, because he doesn't want a new development to contradict everything he's posted).

Otherwise, the readers are SAD (but really SAD!!!!!) about Little Women getting six nominations at the Oscars. For months, Enty had repeatedly explained to them that it would flop and sink without trace. Why so much obsession about that film? Emma Watson (who's about to die from an overdose and who was snotty enough to refuse to promote the film) and Meryl Streep are in the cast, and their names are enough to make a few readers feel nauseous (it's actually a few too many margaritas before 4pm, but let's not split hairs). It has a woman director and a feminist (well, for the nineteenth century) message. And this Timothée Chalamet is most likely gay. As a result, this fucking film was featured prominently featured in the blinds during months. Anything about strong, independent women would make the do-nothing housewives from CDAN angry. Because that's the bread and butter and the site. Imply that every attractive famous woman has no talent and has just slept her way to the top. If she's famous but not attractive, well, she's protecting child molesters instead.

Other tidbits of information gleaned from CDAN in the past few weeks...

John McCain didn't die from cancer. He was executed. Because of something Meghan McCain mangled on The View. A few readers are adamant about it.

Paul Thomas Anderson is married to Mila Jovovich according to showbiz authority Tricia.

Real-life Sherlock Holmes (but I guess the Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly version) Tricia reportedly found my real identity long ago. Sure, Tricia, sure... (By the way, I strongly suspect that Tricia has a drinking problem. That would explain her morning ritual on CDAN, to keep herself together, before she sips one too many glasses of red wine and gets into beautiful dreams where Robert De Niro and Meryl Streep get brutally murdered).

I just noticed the posting times and that bitch spends nearly 1/3 of the entire day on there everyday.

Exactly. She organizes her entire mornings around the posting schedule of the site, and she checks the content at least every 15 minutes. If you need a boost to the ego by finding the names on transparent blind items and getting praise from strangers about it, even if you're deeply insecure, it would be very repetitive and unsatisfying after a few days or weeks. She has been doing this for years. And there's also the issue about what she does in the meantime. The site eats all her mornings, I don't think she must be extremely efficient in the afternoon, and if she had an occupation, she would definitely brag about it. She always talks about her great life, yet, she never shares what concretely makes her life great, besides posting the names of Megan Markle, Lindsay Lohan or James Franco every day.

Hence my hunch, which is based on nothing more than that and the fact that she was arrested twice on disorderly conduct charges in 2010. CDAN "helps" her holding it together at the beginning of the day as she focuses on these "daily exercises", but after lunch, she must be barely functional. I'd bet that's why she feels the need to get these "wins", that are about as valuable as a reward sticker when you're over 10, early in the day. And her convulsive need is quite similar to alcohol addiction.

Once again, just a hunch.

[quote] Exactly. She organizes her entire mornings around the posting schedule of the site, and she checks the content at least every 15 minutes.

To know this is... extremely pathetic.

R374 To do it is extremely pathetic.

To know this... just takes a couple of minutes. It's easy to notice that it's always the same egregious poster (with an avatar) who sends the first message in the comments for almost every blind item. Do this for the 10 or 12 blinds published every day (there are also "reveals" and other posts mixed in the same schedule) , and it shows she's spent 4 or 5 hours doing this. Then, check any random day in the past four or five years, and she was also there. It's not rocket science...

I noticed too that Enty posts only the things his readers expect him to post but it should be either Hard to Prove later OR very vague. He actually reads all the gossip forums get tbevtrend and make up his stupid blinds. Do not even cares enough to check if it factual cos that is what giving away that its mostly a lie. He once claimed that Timothee went to Milan and was a Dick there when Timothee never went to Milan and was shoiting at the very time he suppose to be a Dick in Milan lol and there were a lot of photoproof of that. He literally making shit up and his audience happily eat it

In other words Enty is a pathetic bottom

Enty is a fat cunt.

R379 Damn, that's harsh.

Has Enty ever been outed? They should be given the given the libellous garbage they post.

Enty is actually Irma Bunt.

R382 I would never forgive him for what he did to Tracy Draco.

Enty is EXTREMELY cautious about his own privacy. I doubt, for instance, that he has social media under his real name. If there's one thing that Enty's been able to protect over the years, that's his identity. He never denied that Himmmm was TG, he's sold out his own beliefs a lot of times, but he's extremely focused about keeping his own secret. Especially as many lawyers would then have an actual name to sue for libel and slander. That would be his downfall.

About Enty being vague, it's definitely what R377 says. Yesterday, there was a blind item about the French government issuing red notices about the Jeffrey Epstein case. Yeah, because Enty has also full knowledge of the Interpol files. Last sentence, is "But, there must be more because the US government is also fighting the red notice of someone, although it is unknown right now who that person is."

For once, Enty doesn't claim to know the name. The first guess in the comments was naturally Bill Clinton, but a bunch of people (more than I would have guessed) disputed that later. Enty is probably testing the waters for a follow up to his red notices story involving Clinton and wanted to know if his readers were ready to take the bait.

R383. What did he do to Tracy Draco? I ‘ve tried googling and can’t find anything.

Has anyone (with too much time on their hands obviously) taken the initiative to document all the times CDAN turned out to be full of shit? It's a huge undertaking bu it would be pretty funny. A few that I can think of: The site claimed Little Women and Star is Born were both disasters that the studios were going to lose money on. The blind a couple years ago about how (most popular guess) Don Henley was about to be revealed as a violent predator and his career ruined by a lawsuit. All of the people he's insisted were near death due to drug abuse. And so on.

Can someone take one for a team and trace this MF identity? I bet you can do it easily if you know how. Lets clear the waters make him pay

There was a blind a few months ago about a hypocritical producer who was liberal on Twitter but in reality he had fired all of the female writers on his show and the final season would be completely written by men. It was revealed to be Mike Schur of "The Good Place." This one stuck in my mind because I'm a fan of the show. Anyway, all it takes to disprove it is to check out the writing credits for the final season... Kassia Miller, Aisha Muharrar, Lizzy Pace, Jen Statsky. And half of the directors have been women as well. I'm sure there are countless other examples, but I don't think even documenting 100 blinds as full of shit would cause his true believers to lose the faith.

R384 Teresa "Tracy" Draco was the sole daughter of Corsican gangster Marc-Ange Draco. She was married to an Italian count, and retained the title of countess di Vincenzo. An interesting fact about her is that she was briefly married to a Scottish MI6 agent from the 00 program.

R387 That's common BS from Enty (or one of his providers). It has a lot of things. Schur worked with Amy Poehler, that Enty started to hate a couple of years ago, along with Tina Fey, while he previously had mostly positive things to say about the both of them (he blamed Will Arnett for the divorce, and he repeatedly praised Fey for standing up against Baldwin and Tracy Morgan on the set of 30 Rock). Now, Poehler is supposed to be secretly getting gigs as a consultant on her productions to Louis CK, and Fey is a bitchy diva.

Then, there's the classic "liberal in public, conservative where the money (or the heart) is", the good old accusation of hypocrisy, that Enty's also aimed at people like Judd Apatow. But I naturally don't see Enty asking these guys to be "woke", it's just an opportunity to insinuate that diversity is part of an agenda that its promoters want to inflict on others, not on themselves.

For the record, I had debunked the blind item as soon as it was posted. Basically, every show in its final season relies on a streamlined writing room, where the showrunner is basically as involved as in the first season and they don't have to groom new writers to take over progressively if a senior writer leaves before the start of the next season. And in addition to the women you've mentioned (that still make for an higher share than your average sitcom), it's very likely that producer Megan Amram (whose hands are all over the tone and the background gags of the show) will be heavily involved in the final batch of episodes. Sure, they lost stand up comedian Rae Sanni (she didn't have any credits, but she was part of the writing room), as she's moved to "The Black Lady Sketch Show" on HBO, for which she's one of the main writers. And writer Cord Jefferson is obviously biracial, seven out of eleven episodes so far have been directed by women, etc.

By the way, if TheGarofaholic is still here, Janeane had a cameo ten days ago on Joe Pera Talks with You.

R388 Yep i saw her.

Ain’t difficult to figure out who he is. Look at the clues that are out there and you can find him in an afternoon. He does have social. Under his real name.

R390 Gabe Hoffman?

Gabe Hoffman is a producer to An Open Secret and is obviously the inspiration for all the Elon Musk/Tesla blinds, but I don't see an hedge fund manager (whatever the size of the fund is) spending more than a decade writing about Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Justin Bieber. Also, he seems very concerned with anti-semitism and carries a surname that's often Jewish, so I don't think he'd put that much emphasis on the numerous rumors that target well-known Jewish producers, the stuff that's basically blood libel stories. And he's based in New York.

He's an ally to Enty, there are definite connections, but there have been moments where even the Open Secret guys have had to refute some of the blinds, for instance the stuff about Heather O'Rourke dying due to being molested a few years before.

By the way, I've made a few allusions on CDAN that some of the blinds were written just to satisfy the wishes of some readers and Patreon subscribers (what a shocker!). I didn't mention names (I actually had none in mind) but this resulted in very angry and accusatory messages by Tricia (well, it's almost a pleonasm at this point). So, I have definitely struck a nerve. So, I wouldn't be surprised if a few select commenters had been subsidizing the blog for a while, even before Enty started his Patreon thing.

R392 He gave me some blinds. And I to him.

Yet another CDAN fail, claiming JLo and Shakira wouldn't share the stage at the Superbowl.

hey Angela do you have a link to Tricia's mugshots? I need a good laugh.

R395 Just google Tricia Shaw Mughot.

The stuff about JLo is Gossip Site 101. All gossip blogs have always focused on divas, because, let's face it, it's fun. Whether it is Dolly Parton, Mariah Carey, Babs, Diana, Liza, Cher, Céline, you can basically write anything and it will sound plausible, because we expect their behavior to be totally insane anyway.

Besides, JLo has always been a target for the site. She's "MV" (Milli Vanilli), the singer who has never sung anything in her life, always relying on vocal stand-ins in the studio and lip-syncing in concert. But the thing is that, even when she started recording, it was already very easy to take her voice, sweeten it up with some technical effects, punch it up with some backup singer, etc. It's not as if "If You Had My Love" made it to the charts through the strengths of its vocal performance anyway, so why would they desperately need an anonymous singer to provide a singing (or more accurately half-spoken) voice that wasn't that expressive and was always low in the mix?

There was some other bullshit lately about her relying on body doubles for her pole dancing scenes in Hustler. You can clearly see her face in most of the shots. I know that CGI face replacement is now an option, but it's not advanced enough to trick audiences when there are quick moves, particularly head turning, as it was the case there. It's just that the female readers prefer to be told that this 50-year-old actress couldn't have such a firm ass. With such stories, they're not envious of this Latina, they regard her as pathetic instead.

Also, we literally just saw JLo work the pole last night. She clearly doesn't need to rely on anyone.

Is this Tricia?

Angela, what is this deal with Amanda Peet being a supposed friend to Enty and the main leak behind items about the Game of Thrones cast? He just began an item involving her in which her husband David Benioff, one of the showrunners, is cheating on her with the offspring of a celebrity.

I find it hard to believe Peet has nothing better to do with her time than leak supposed gossip about the GoT cast to Enty.

Here's Tricia.

R401 Oh dear ugly...

She looks like an alcoholic tranny.

R400 I have zero actual information about Peet, but, just like you, I'm pretty sure that she wouldn't use a Trumpster celebrity blog, where every non Republican celebrity is a child molester or a rapist, to settle things with her husband.

Enty tends to imply from time to time that he's actually friends with a lot of actresses. No, actually he implies that he was friends with a particular actress, that they lost sight of each other or that they had some kind of fallout, and that they're now making things up, hence the piece of gossip . He's played that card about Sandra Bullock, Renée Zellwegger, Amanda Peet, Shannen Doherty, Kaley Cuoco, etc. For instance, most of the "Henry Cavill wants to date underage girls" are supposedly written because Kaley Cuoco had a messy breakup with Cavill, even if they broke up in 2013. What would it actually say about Cuoco if she was still petty enough to drop regularly information about a petty ex to a gossip blog six years afterwards?

So, I wouldn't take anything from these "high-profile sources" who don't have anything better to do with their lives than sharing nasty rumors with the one and same contact.

And I'm not very comfortable about doxxing Tricia, or commenting on her looks. Sure, there are many examples where she has doxxed "opponents" (or asked her "fans" to do it for her), but this awful specimen of humanity tends to play the victim card and is sure to whine about the amount of persecution she suffers due to the awful Angela ("Rip her a new one, my minions..."). She may also set her Twitter, where all her followers have "#MAGA" "#KAG", "Trump2020", "#buildthewall" or "#2A" in their bios, on private, which would be something of a loss. And don't be disrespectful to alcoholic trannies. They deserve better than such a comparison.

So do celebrities and their publicists regard CDAN as a joke?

I guess that it's still a pain in the ass for celebrities and publicists when some blind item turns popular and gets some traction elsewhere. If they tried to deny it, if they sued, it would draw attention to the story, so their best option is still not to do anything about it.

But otherwise, if they don't get mentioned, they probably don't even know that this place exists or they just remember it because of the RDJ rumors... from 2012, maybe the Weinstein stuff, which was more recent. If they visit the site, they land on this incredibly austere, poorly written picture-less blog that just hammers the same terrible or outrageous stories with just the identities and a few other details changed.

Besides, the site has made grave assumptions over people like Steven Spielberg or David Geffen, who are definitely billionaires. The site itself doesn't even have servers, a webmaster, etc. It's just a blog hosted on a Google platform called Blogger. I'm not paranoid, but if Spielberg or Geffen were aware of these stories and wanted to silence them, it would just take them one phone call to some Google executive they know to kill the blog. Google would be able to find some clause in the terms of use to close the blog. Or they would just hire a few PIs to investigate on who Enty actually is and find some dirt on him.

It's always a delight to see the dumbest of the dumb on CDAN call me and a few other dissenters shills on Geffen's payroll. Apart from a few hillbillies that are still on AOL and on dial-up Internet, I can't think of a worse choice than me to be the spearhead of a counterstrike force against Enty. If these moguls had hired people to screw things on CDAN, you wouldn't definitely notice them.

so why does this site still exists? i mean it does harm to some of big names after all. I recently read some twitter thread about some news about Tom Hanks that he did smth great and there were a lot of comments that he is pdf file. It was first time for me come across smth that stupid and now i guess i know where it comes from. So CDAN din hurt his reputation if it spread this wide already tht randos on twitter cant stop themselves but accuse him in the comments under the unrelated post. I guess he is one of many who were hurt by it. Why they don't just deal with Enty. The sure can in a lot of ways.

Enty made a fairly obvious blind about the Norton/Garofalo thing.

R408 And it is extremely lazy to claim inside knowledge now while he had no clue about the story before Garofalo gave the interview.

R407 The "Tom Hanks is a pedo" stuff didn't originate from CDAN (which, until 2017, mostly claimed that Hanks had an affair with Ginnifer Goodwin while producing Big Love). It comes mostly from the QAnon spheres, and gained popularity in 2018 through a massive series of YouTube comments that referred to Sarah Ruth Ashcraft. Isaac Kappy's rants also played some part in that. Then, Enty started to make a series of very vague claims that more or less support these theories, allowing the CDAN crowd to jump on the bandwagon. Of course, Hanks would be their white whale, as he mostly plays decent men, with principles. Taking him down would be Bill Cosby times a million. If Hanks turned out to be a monster, anybody in the industry can.

Then, again, most of this stuff is shared by various circles which allow the rumors to gain strength. Kappy may have spent time on the QAnon boards, but I wouldn't be surprised if he had also read some of the CDAN blinds (particularly the long series on Spielberg from 2017-2019). There's a big networking part among these communities. They will post similar stories that seem to corroborate each other, until people take them seriously. As they're also quite insulated, it's quite easy.

Bump.

Bump.