Stars Promoted To The "And / As Credit."

On DALLAS: Linda Gray, Ken Kercheval, Steve Kanaly, Susan Howard, Priscilla Beaulieu Presley, Sheree J. Wilson all started out with just their names being shown as the episode was starting after the opening credits/theme music.

They call got moved up to having three images of themselves in the opening credits.

Oh, OP, I miss understood...you meant those stars who got the 'and' as in the last name shown. Sorry, I thought you mean people qho got bumped up. Sorry.

Dammit, R1

Eileen Fulton on "As the World Turns"

Marg Helgenberger on "China Beach." Cast was alphabetical after Dana Delany and Nan Woods for Season One and Two (and when Woods left midway through Two) and Helgenberger was promoted to "as KC" with Season Three.

Alyson Hannigan in season 6 of Buffy after Anthony Stewart Head left the show.

The names and images of Raymond Bailey and Nancy Culp as Mr. Drysdale and Miss Hathaway were promoted to the opening credits of The Beverly Hillbillies at the beginning of season seven. Prior to that, their names came first in the closing credits, without pictures.

R7 is apparently a thread killer

You can’t kill a thread that was already dead on arrival.

I never understood this mess with "and Ann Jillian as Cassie" crammed in the middle of the credits.

George Wendt?

[quote]I never understood this mess with "and Ann Jillian as Cassie" crammed in the middle of the credits.

Ann Jillian was arguably the most famous of the actress, she was a child actress with a bunch of credit. She was even "named" by Walt Disney himself.

Kim Zimmer

"And Starring Valerie Bertinelli as Barbara Royer" is a mouthful.

Don't forget about me!

Introducing Jonathan Silverman

r12, I get that she was known, but she wasn't the final credit. There were three other people named after her, with another "and" the true "and" that went to Barrie Youngfellow.

Holly Marie Combs as "Piper", post-Shannen Charmed.

Wasn’t Jonathan Harris billed as “special guest star” on Lost in Space? I never really got that since he was a regular.

R19 Made sense to me.

Tom Bosley

[quote] Valerie Bertinelli "One Day At A Time" (demoting Pat Harrington in the process)

Pat Harrington wasn't demoted in the process. He was still "Starring Pat Harrington as Schneider."

The one who WAS demoted in the final season of ODAAT was Mackenzie Phillips, who was now (after being fired and returning) listed 5th in the credits, after Boyd Gaines.

On "Facts of Life" in the 5th season Nancy McKeon got the "And Nancy McKeon"

That rankled a few people, Lisa Whelchel for one who said so on the Facts of Life Biography special

On the show "Reba" in the last two seasons Melissa Petersen got the "And Melissa Petersen"

Reba didn't seem to mind, in fact after the show folded, she invited Melissa to be her opening act on the road.

1991-2008 Days of Our Lives

“And Deidre Hall as Marlena Evans”

2008-2020

“And Diedre Hall as Crypt Keeper”

You can tell who the star of this show is!

Whatever happened to that Bruce guy?

I must have missed the season of One Day At A Time with Howard Hessman. WTF, was Howard Hessman doing on ODAAT?

And why did it say starring Bonnie Franklin? Why didn't Bonnie rate a starring?

Howard Hesseman played Bonnie Franklins/Boyd Gaines’ father in One Day at a Time.

The credits on that show changed constantly as they hired/fired/promoted/demoted actors.

The credits change multiple times in 80-81, the season Mackenzie left- First it’s Ann/Schneider/Julie/Barbara. Then Max is added. Then Julie is removed. then Max is removed. Then Gay Alex and his dad Ron Rifkin are added.

I can't believe that Howard Hessman got billed before Schneider. That must have been a real slap in the face.

[quote] I can't believe that Howard Hessman got billed before Schneider. That must have been a real slap in the face.

But the billing was

STARRING

Pat Harrington

as

Schneider

Despite being billed third. and that final season, he won an EMMY

MY GOD! More than 30 replies and no one has mentioned the classic "and" credit.

"And Jerry Mathers as the Beaver"

My elementary school was SO HAPPY when the Professor and Maryanne were added to the credits. JUSTICE AT LAST.

The Professor and MaryAnn

The Professor and MaryAnn

And Rebecca Schaeffer, as Patti

“And Donna Mills as Abby”

Lou Antonio must have been a big deal.

I’ll admit, this one hurt like a motherfucker.

How do you think it made ME feel?

I was surprised that Agnes Moorehead didn't get the "and" credit on "Bewitched." They just billed her after Dick Sargent and before David White (who played Larry). That was in the later seasons, though, so not sure about the earlier ones.

Someone who used to be the lead but was demoted to supporting but given an "and" credit as a courtesy.

R30/r31 it’s always funny seeing very late season ODAAG credits. Unlike some other shows from the second half of the 70s like say Three’s Company, or Different Strokes with that jazzy new opening, One Day at a Time didn’t even remotely try to adapt to the 80s. So you see these credits from 1984 but it still looks like 1977 to me.

Edge of Night , 1969-1977

“And Donald May as Adam Drake”

How did Celia Weston get that much clout? She was unknown on television when she started on that show.

Season 12 of E.R. - all of the original cast members had left the show. Instead of bumping Laura Innes to the top/first position in the opening credits, they gave her the senior “And” position. They also greatly reduced her character’s storylines, but the actress had moved to directing more episodes so she apparently didn’t mind.

The top two positions in the credits were given to the boring Croatian and Maura Tierney, who were the romantic leads on the show in terms of storylines and screen time. Sherry Stringfield was supposed to be on that season but unexpectedly did not sign a new contract over the summer (she appeared in the first episode of the season only because they had filmed it before summer hiatus). If she had stayed she and Laura would have had to duke it out for the “And” position.

R42 I remember when that happened. I guess she was just glad to have a job but that is humiliating to have the sidekicks take over your show.

Similar to “It’s A Living”, St Elsewhere had two “And” positions in the title credits - one for Norman Lloyd and one for William Daniels. When star Ed Flanders left the show, they promoted Daniels to the top star position. So I guess the second “And” position had more clout...take THAT Ann Jillian!

(Also, why didn’t Terence Knox have a bigger career? He was absolutely gorgeous and has aged very well.)

[quote]Howard Hesseman played Bonnie Franklins/Boyd Gaines’ father in One Day at a Time.

You mean, Barbara's husband turned out to be her half brother? I should have stuck with this show. I never knew it crossed into "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman" territory.

[quote]Similar to “It’s A Living”, St Elsewhere had two “And” positions in the title credits - one for Norman Lloyd and one for William Daniels. When star Ed Flanders left the show, they promoted Daniels to the top star position. So I guess the second “And” position had more clout...take THAT Ann Jillian!

One of those actors should have gotten the "with" that comes right before the "and". There should be only one "and"

The only acceptable titles are:

"Starring"

'Co-Starring"

"And"

"With"

"Special Guest Star" or "Special Guest Appearance By" or "Special Appearance By"

and

"And Introducing"

50 POSTS. You girls are slipping …

STARRING

BEATRICE ARTHUR

AND …

ESTELLE GETTY

Mackenzie Phillips said she and Bonnie Frranklin's agents battled over top billing because Mack was riding high from American Graffiti at the time.

R52 , She was riding HIGH alright .

Not completely until the third season, though.

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Stockard Channing in Just Friends

Stargate SG-1: Micheal Shanks was credited as "And Michael Shanks as Dr. Daniel Jackson" from season 7 onward.

The reason for this was that Shanks left the show at the end of season 5 after longstanding disagreements with the show's producers. During season 6, it became apparent that the show wasn't working without his character and they began to try and get him back. Meanwhile Shanks thought he'd make it big in Hollywood after leaving the show, but later recounted that he actually only got one audition the whole time. So he agreed to return. He was given the 'and/as' as kind of a 'welcome back' gift.

[quote]You mean, Barbara's husband turned out to be her half brother

Stepbrother, half would mean blood relation, step is not blood relation, like the Brady Boys and Martin Girls

[quote]On the show "Reba" in the last two seasons Melissa Petersen got the "And Melissa Petersen"...Reba didn't seem to mind,

Can you blame her? A huge reason anyone watched was because Peterson was funny. And when you put Reba and Peterson together they were comedy gold. The had great chemistry together.

[quote]Stepbrother, half would mean blood relation, step is not blood relation, like the Brady Boys and Martin Girls

I was joking, but the post I was referring to did say H.H. was B.F.'s father

[quote]Howard Hesseman played Bonnie Franklins/Boyd Gaines’ father in One Day at a Time.

And Melania Trump as The Slovenian Whore

[quote]Pat Harrington wasn't demoted in the process. He was still "Starring Pat Harrington as Schneider."

Doesn't matter, the only two honor positions are first and last, it was a demotion.

[quote]I was surprised that Agnes Moorehead didn't get the "and" credit on "Bewitched." They just billed her after Dick Sargent and before David White (who played Larry). That was in the later seasons, though, so not sure about the earlier ones.

She did get it when Dick York was on, she was "And Agnes Moorehead as Endora.."

When Dick Sargent came on, she was Agnes Moorehead as Endora, David White, as Larry Tate.

Of course the last credit was "Producer...William Asher." Which is odd as before him was "Harry Ackerman...Executive Producer." You think Asher would've made himself Executive Producer.

[quote]How did Celia Weston get that much clout? She was unknown on television when she started on that show.

All the fake Flo's got the and/as credit

[quote] Doesn't matter, the only two honor positions are first and last, it was a demotion.

But Pat Harrington NEVER got the first or last position. He was always listed after Bonnie Franklin and Mackenzie Phillips (except the final season, when he was listed after Franklin and Howard Hessman but got the added tag of "Starring"). Valerie Bertinelli always got the last position in the credits.

Howard Hesseman went from playing one of the coolest, most likable characters ever on WKRP to playing a total asshole on ODAAT. He made Ann Romano appealing in comparison.

Name one appealing character on One Day at a Time. They were all annoying assholes which is what makes it fun

DL and its never-ending love/hate for One Day at a Time continues to entertain.

Valerie Bertinelli can be very annoying in real life.

I am still a fan though out of habit.

And HRH Princess Charlotte as The Spare

[quote] WTF, was Howard Hessman doing on ODAAT?

paying his mortgage

From ogling Loni Anderson to ogling Bonnie Franklin. Now that’s what I call range!

*slap!*

And Donald Trump as President of the United States

The stars of Knots Landing were shown in alphabetical order...

Somehow Jimmy Smits got a 'with' credit when Alan Alda just got a regular credit for seasons six and seven of The West Wing

Heather Locklear was a special guest star for more than half the seasons on the original Melrose Place.

But she makes every show great when they bring her on. Dynasty, TJ Hooker, and of course Melrose Place!

WITH James Cromwell

AND Rachel Griffith as Brenda

GUEST STARRING Jeremy Sisto

AND Richard Jenkins as Nathaniel Fisher

R80 An "and/as" plus a head turn with hair movement is nice. But being first with a "starring" is better.

Didn't Heather Locklear get "special guest" billing on Melrose Place?

R82 I don't know

[quote] An "and/as" plus a head turn with hair movement is nice. But being first with a "starring" is better.

Agreed- the “And” billing equals second billing. Joan Collins was considered equal to Linda Evans but not above John Forsythe in the Dynasty credits.

John Forsythe Grabbed My Snatch!

All this TV shit, and WHO CARES?

and JANET LEIGH as Marion Crane.

Take THAT, motherfuckers!!!

"And Alyson Hannigan as Willow" replaced "and Anthony Stewart Head as Giles" when the latter left Buffy.

R81–how did they get away with TWO “and/as” credits, one in the middle of the cast?

[quote]But Pat Harrington NEVER got the first or last position. He was always listed after Bonnie Franklin and Mackenzie Phillips

You couldn't be more wrong

Bt the second season he was already demoted. He kept his "as" credit but lost the last place and "and" credit to Mary Louise Wilson.

VB still maintained her "with" credit

How did Valerie Bertinelli get a "with" credit the first season of One Day at a Time? Was she known prior to the series?

She’d starred in a movie movie, as well as a few TV movies.

I kept my head down and ended up having the most distinguished post ODAAT acting career of them all.

r92, according to IMDb, Valerie had only 1 guest spot appearance on a TV show prior to the 1975 start of One Day. C.H.O.M.P.S. was released in 1979, midway through the One Day run.

So a "with" credit for your first starring role is pretty impressive.

^yes. I didn’t realize IMDb listed the series at it’s end date rather than it’s start date on her timeline.

Valerie was Norman's discovery. So she probably got that credit because he knew it was a starmaking role.

Kind of like how Estelle Getty got the and for Golden Girls

R96 Estelle was considered a breakout star on Broadway though, so it was a little different. Val was just another kid actress.

[quote]The stars of Knots Landing were shown in alphabetical order...

So was the cast of "Fame" for all 6 of its seasons.

I never understood why Jessica Lange wasn’t bumped up to the “Starring” spot in the credits of AHS after season 1.

R89 "Damn it, Schneider!"

R79, how did THAT happen? She had no real acting experience prior to Dark Shadow, and it would be years before she became better-known as Claus von Bulow's co-conspirator.

[quote]Valerie was Norman's discovery. So she probably got that credit because he knew it was a starmaking role.

That is so true. I saw an interview with him and he went on and on about how "cute" she was and they wanted to make her a tomboy but she was just too cute for that, so they changed it right away. Then he went on about how good she was and he said, that MacKenzie was a star but Valerie could hold her own with her. He even said, how brave she was to sing with Mac, (being Elton John to Mac's Kiki Dee) as Mac was from a famous singing family.

R102 Mac sucked as a singer so how was that brave?

Yes Val was very cute/pretty and likable (a first on that show, I get it) but did she have the worlds best publicist and agent at the time? I don’t really get how she got these “exploding “ amounts of fan mail and became such a thing.

I guess because she was the only likable and attractive person on the show?

[quote]John Forsyth Grabbed My Snatch!

And he hurt his back bending over Whil

[quote]John Forsyth Grabbed My Snatch!

And he hurt his back bending over Whil

^^^while doing so

Having a stroke, dear Joan? ^^^

Valerie Bertinelli was born to a wealthy, well-connected Catholic family in Joe Biden's Delaware. I am sure that had something to do with it.

Biden helped Valerie get her big break on One day at a time?

Valerie has three brothers: David, Patrick and Drew. An elder brother, Mark, died at 17 months from an accidental poisoning before she was born.

Yeah right, "accidental"

R108 where are you getting that she was wealthy? I’m pretty sure she was one of those kids who got into the biz to help out her parents.

DE/South Jersey in general is not a wealthy area at all (unless you’re a DuPont).

The Yoko Ono of Van Halen