ALTERNATIVE TO PRIMETIMER?

[quote]is there anything else available?

No, asshole.

[quote] And they refuse to allow political discussion

Link, please.

[quote] I don't understand Reddit

Well, you better learn to understand Reddit.

Here you go, R2:

For food chat, I always go with LTHForum. They started in Chicago, but they’re all over the US now.

Fucking Primetimer 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬

They suck balls. They fucking banned me for some bullshit reason.. fuck them.

Reddit can be intimidating because sometimes there are thousands of posts in a thread. Just overwhelming.

I completely agree, R6 -- but I need to find an alternative site that works with less complication than Reddit.

Sort Reddit by best or top.

It's not the same usually substantive posts as elsewhere, but it works.

Primetimer (fka Previously TV) has never been very good and has gradually become even more crappy. The moderators aren't quite as OCD as those at TWoP were, but they seem to be working toward that goal.

For DL's soap thread refugees, Primetimer's Forums host what on first glance appears to be a healthy Genoa City contingent. It's more than a little nicknamey (Buttbiscuit, Shictor, Olive Oyl), but I may consider it, as Muriel has finally succeeded in exterminating the DL soap opera threads (poisonous lemon drops? Updosed Rx meds? A walk UP a set of stairs?)

Unfortunately there seem to be no MMT threads @ Primetimer.

They still haven't fixed all of the glitches caused by their recent update, and they aren't communicating about it. Arrogant assholes, clunky site.

Primetimer posted the following today:

[quote] For the record, when you use ad blocker on free sites like this one all you are doing is shortening its lifespan. We mods are all volunteers and this site takes money to run so while you are allowed to do whatever you want when you block the ads you risk losing the site entirely eventually because it costs more than it makes.

Funny thing is, the 3 founders of Television Without Pity sold that site to Bravo (price was confidential, but no doubt substantial), then at least 2 of them started Primetimer. So the poor-pitiful-us tale tends to ring a bit hollow.

The boards there are really slowing down, I feel. At least the ones I used to go to. I think the moderation might have something to do with it; grown adults don't appreciate being spoken to like naughty schoolchildren because they had the temerity to try and have an interesting discussion.

I also remember in The View thread there was a rule to not talk about John McCain for some reason. Well, someone one day mentioned Meghan's husband Ben, and rather than a note saying: "We've decided to update our policy and Ben Domenech is also off topic now" they wrote this ridiculously patronising message along the lines of "we're shutting the boards down over the weekend and suggest you take this time to refamiliarise yourself with the rules" (which at the time hadn't mentioned Meghan's husband was off limits anyway) and comments along the lines of "this is why we can't have nice things". That was when I though, eh, the internet is a huge place, there are better places for discussion elsewhere, why put up with this?

Primetimer has some prick mods leftover from TWoP, I got 2 warnings there so fuck 'em

Primetimer (and earlier, PreviouslyTV) is pretty bad. It’s all of the bossy schoolmarm that TWoP was, but without the contingent of intelligent and thoughtful posters on TWoP, very important in any good message board. Yuck. I like to read in depth conversation on the few TV shows I watch but haven’t found the right place either.

Yeah, I’m done with them, too. The mods are hypocrites and scolding nannies and allow all sorts of horrific behavior from those they agree with but no dissenting opinions. It’s a trash heap. And as others have noted, with few exceptions, it’s nearly a ghost town so you’d think the mods would make a little more effort to not alienate the few users they do have. I expect they’ll be shuttered by next spring. They will have zero traffic this coming fall because there will be no new content. Let their failure be a lesson in self-sabotage.

It’s also a damn shame that The Onion/AV Club folded into kinja, which has been unfuckingusable from go. What a disaster of a UI.

Amazon, having razed their non-income-generating boards, really does weirdly leave nowhere but reddit and some low traffic fandom-specific sites.

Corporations have ruined the web, the same way they ruined film festivals and...all of modern society.

A commercial for some kind of breakfast food involving microwaveable eggs elicited comments about hateful commercials, which (naturally enough) meandered into discussions of various ways to cook eggs that people do or don't like. Cue the mods:

[quote] Folks, Please get back to "Commercials That Annoy, Irritate or Enrage" and take the egg talk to "Small Talk", the place for everything that's off topic.

Being "off topic" is a sin to these people. God forbid that anyone should visit a chat room to -- gasp! -- chat, of all despicable things.

r18, it's like the site is modded by people who have never actually been a participant in a real world conversation before.

[quote]I don't understand Reddit -- DL is great but has its own issues -- is there anything else available?

I know you don't understand it but learn Reddit.

It's really not that hard it is really is the easiest place to find discussion about anything you want.

R20, how does one learn Reddit? Is there a tutorial? How do you start finding a discussion about a given topics?

r21 you search. If you want to find a subreddit or discussion about cucumbers, type ‘cucumbers’ in the search box and hit return. Discussions and subreddits about cucumbers will be shown in the results.

I miss TWoP; I have yet to find another TV message board with such consistently intelligent, insightful, funny commentary. The America’s Next Top Model forum was brilliant—I still laugh thinking about Tyra Banks being referred to as Mayor McRibs.

Reddit is all right, but skews younger and often lacks the snark and wit that made TWoP so great.

r23 and I don’t think you will, sadly. The ubiquity of smart phones means that millions of unintelligent people who were not online in any sort of social way, beyond perhaps an email address they rarely used, now, flood every corner of the web. In theory, I think it’s great that so many who were previously cut off from the global conversation can now be active participants. However, the quality of that discussion has bottomed out as idiots far out number intelligent, educated, witty, early adaptors.

I agree with R24. But it's "early adOpters", not "adAptors". To adopt is to acquire (adopting a puppy) -- to adapt is to alter (adapting a recipe to make it vegetarian by eliminating meat).

Thanks, R22. DL has conditioned me to ignore search functions -- I'll try the one at Reddit.

The TWOP threads about Sandra Lee are a national treasure and should be preserved in the National Archives.

OP is a Grim Reaper; wherever she visits, the place simply drop dead. Please try not to come to DL and jinx us.

OP, why not discuss your passion for the food network right here? You know we at DL are a worldly and educated bunch capable of engaging on the most fascinating subjects.

TWoP used to be witty and bitchy at least. Primetimer is all just a bunch of whiners pissing and moaning all the time. If you call somebody out on their obvious homophobia, be prepared to get scolded about it.

Datalounge is one of the few forums online that allows you to openly express opinions without censorship but also isn't populated by sociopaths and degenerates.

Kiwifarms and 4 chan both have TV and cooking sections, OP.

[quote] Datalounge is one of the few forums online that allows you to openly express opinions without censorship but also isn't populated by sociopaths and degenerates.

Oh, my SIDES!

R29, Food Network is a shadow of its former self now. Hardly anything except competitions and southerners.

I don't have any suggestions, but a good place to start your hunt would be Facebook Groups. They've sort of replaced message boards in the current digital era and have a built-in guardrail that keeps trolls away since it is tied to your Facebook account.

r34, yeah, no. No one should be using facebook for anything. You should have facebook domains blocked on your hosts file or pi-hole.

[quote]how does one learn Reddit? Is there a tutorial? How do you start finding a discussion about a given topics?

Like the next poster said you search but I prefer to use Google. I type in what I want ...

food network reddit

and the links to all the related reddits will come up. I prefer to use Google because some topics have more than one reddit. (Like you may have some reddits about certain shows or certain people or even the giant general TV reddit etc.)

Different boards have different cultures. Reddit skews younger on boards with topics that skew younger.