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'Comic genius' Phil Hartman's last days examined in ABC News special — watch the exclusive trailer

The Last Days of Phil Hartman will air Thursday, Sept. 19 at 9 p.m. ET on ABC.

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by Anonymousreply 174October 5, 2019 11:08 PM

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BC News presents a two-hour television event on the life and tragic death of legendary actor Phil Hartman, killed by his wife, Brynn Hartman, airing Thursday, Sept. 19.

The prime-time news special features an exclusive interview With Brynn's brother, Gregory Omdahl and never-before-seen interview with Phil and exclusive Hartman family home videos. 'The Last Days of Phil Hartman' airs Thursday, Sept. 19 (9:00 – 11:00 p.m. EDT), on ABC.

Watch on the ABC app from your smartphone and tablet (iOS and Android), computer on ABC.com and connected devices (Roku, AppleTV and Amazon Fire TV).

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by Anonymousreply 1September 20, 2019 1:26 AM

He was by all accounts a very nice man and his death was tragic.

I ***am*** surprised that this special is happening NOW. I assume either someone has a book coming out or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 2September 20, 2019 1:28 AM

I always hated Hartman. Smug and annoyingly repellent.

by Anonymousreply 3September 20, 2019 1:41 AM

R3 = Andy Dick

by Anonymousreply 4September 20, 2019 1:45 AM

I thought he was hilarious

by Anonymousreply 5September 20, 2019 1:47 AM

Why on earth is this being dragged out, after all these years? Let the man rest in peace.

by Anonymousreply 6September 20, 2019 1:52 AM

Who the FUCK wants to hear from Brynn's brother?

by Anonymousreply 7September 20, 2019 1:53 AM

He was not a comic genius!

by Anonymousreply 8September 20, 2019 1:55 AM

On behalf of R3, R6, R7, and R8, I have alerted the network and they are pulling the show.

by Anonymousreply 9September 20, 2019 1:58 AM

Why dredge this awful shit up again?

by Anonymousreply 10September 20, 2019 2:07 AM

Taping it right now. No wonder people hate Andy Dick.

by Anonymousreply 11September 20, 2019 2:13 AM

He looks handsome in OP's pic. But DL wouldn't see it.

by Anonymousreply 12September 20, 2019 2:17 AM

Brynn’s sister got custody of the kids

by Anonymousreply 13September 20, 2019 2:25 AM

Anyone have an update on their children? Maybe the kids are needing money, so they created this documentary?

by Anonymousreply 14September 20, 2019 2:30 AM

Their daughter

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by Anonymousreply 15September 20, 2019 2:34 AM

Their son

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by Anonymousreply 16September 20, 2019 2:34 AM

What is the point of interviewing her brother?

by Anonymousreply 17September 20, 2019 3:20 AM

The brother sued Pfizer, the manufacturer of Zoloft, and settled for $100K.

Like the Zoloft was to blame.

by Anonymousreply 18September 20, 2019 3:56 AM

R18 why didn’t he sue her cocaine dealer?

by Anonymousreply 19September 20, 2019 4:29 AM

SAD last days!

by Anonymousreply 20September 20, 2019 4:47 AM

Funny yes. Genius, no.

by Anonymousreply 21September 20, 2019 6:05 AM

Watching it now, sounds like he wasn't the easiest person to live with

by Anonymousreply 22September 20, 2019 9:44 AM

Beautiful kids. This was such a sad story. RIP Phil.

by Anonymousreply 23September 20, 2019 9:55 AM

I remember some interviews with women he was previously involved with and they made it sound like he really enjoyed the power of keeping things stirred up in high drama mode but at the same time maintaining this nice guy "I'm your victim" sort of passive aggressive stuff. Some male friends acknowledged it as well. So he was a crazy maker who played with the wrong person.

by Anonymousreply 24September 20, 2019 10:54 AM

r24 sounds like he liked gaslighting

by Anonymousreply 25September 20, 2019 10:55 AM

Brynn had Phil and his male friend followed for years. Did she think he was gay?

by Anonymousreply 26September 20, 2019 11:02 AM

Live by the guns you stupidly, needlessly keep in your home, die by the guns you stupidly, needlessly keep in your home.

by Anonymousreply 27September 20, 2019 11:14 AM

Andy Dick gets interviewed. Jon Lovitz blames him for Phil's death

by Anonymousreply 28September 20, 2019 11:50 AM

The brother blamed the Zoloft, should have blamed the cocaine

by Anonymousreply 29September 20, 2019 11:51 AM

He was never funny.

by Anonymousreply 30September 20, 2019 11:58 AM

I am amazed the family won anything in that suit against Zoloft. Brynn had a history of disturbing behavior, alcoholism, drugging, etc.

The threatening letter she wrote to Phil’s ex-wife after the ex sent them a congratulatory card on their new baby should’ve been Phil’s first clue to GTFO.

But Zoloft! Yeah, right.

by Anonymousreply 31September 20, 2019 12:37 PM

Sounds like he and the wife were both assholes but she was a violent asshole.

What set the crazy bitch off, was he going to divorce her? Or, just too much coke?

by Anonymousreply 32September 20, 2019 12:59 PM

He's right at the top of my list of unfunny funny men. Surpassed only by the "comic genius" of Will Ferrell and Robin Williams.

by Anonymousreply 33September 20, 2019 1:38 PM

The daughter looks like a porn star.

by Anonymousreply 34September 20, 2019 5:22 PM

I didn't see the whole thing but he sounds like he would fall fast for women, then gradually shut himself off emotionally. Maybe he bored easily. Brynn however was batshit crazy and I think very resentful of the fact he was famous and his fame wasn't getting her fame. The interview with the director talking about how she got a bit part and kept turning towards the camera despite instructions not to was revealing and the threatening nasty letter to the ex-wife was a huge red flag.

by Anonymousreply 35September 20, 2019 7:13 PM

R22 who is easy to live with it takes two to tango. Give and take 50/50. I have it saved on my DVR and plan to watch later. So, I may be speaking out my butt

by Anonymousreply 36September 20, 2019 7:16 PM

There were rumors at the time the wife had been a hooker and that's how he met her.

by Anonymousreply 37September 20, 2019 7:25 PM

Sad.

by Anonymousreply 38September 20, 2019 8:29 PM

She sounded like a lunatic. I can’t believe she didn’t have run-ins with the law before. Her sending death threats was a red flag.

by Anonymousreply 39September 20, 2019 8:50 PM

Phil had BDF.

by Anonymousreply 40September 20, 2019 8:51 PM

Brynn's brother said that their daughter was successful, married a great guy..blah..blah. Their son is an artist..The End.

by Anonymousreply 41September 20, 2019 8:52 PM

He and Jan Hooks were an item. I wonder if she was scared on Brynn too.

by Anonymousreply 42September 20, 2019 9:27 PM

Did the brother really get $100,000 from sueing Zoloft? If you can sue drug companies for the criminal actions of people who have taken it I should think that all drug companies would be bankrupt by now.

by Anonymousreply 43September 20, 2019 9:31 PM

Zoloft probably settled. Case was too high profile. Bad publicity.

by Anonymousreply 44September 20, 2019 9:35 PM

I watched it, and I got the sense that it wasn't a marriage about love, he got arm candy, she'd get a chance at an acting career (which didn't work out). They both loved their kids, but I don't think he was suited for marriage, always wanting to go off boating or flying his plane, it seems like he needed a lot of time alone.

by Anonymousreply 45September 21, 2019 1:07 AM

Zoloft settles out of court and admitted no wrong doing.

Blaming Zoloft was ridiculous. She was mixing it with alcohol and cocaine and was beating Phil us for years. She was a sociopath with borderline personality disorder.

by Anonymousreply 46September 21, 2019 3:04 AM

Those poor kids.

by Anonymousreply 47September 21, 2019 5:55 AM

He should have left Brynn and got with Jan Hooks.

by Anonymousreply 48September 21, 2019 5:59 AM

I guess Jason Priestly gave up on his Phi Hartman biopic project.

by Anonymousreply 49September 21, 2019 6:02 AM

[quote]He and Jan Hooks were an item.

I thought it was Kevin Nealon and Jan Hooks.

by Anonymousreply 50September 21, 2019 6:07 AM

In the book 'Live From New York' Jan talks about dancing with Phil and realizing he had a huge erection.

by Anonymousreply 51September 21, 2019 6:09 AM

R48 Yes, by the information we know now. Who seriously would have thought he would be murdered? It seriously blows my mind.

by Anonymousreply 52September 21, 2019 6:10 AM

r45 I agree he wasn't suited for marriage. I can see why his actions would be gaslighting to his wife who already seemed to be screwy

by Anonymousreply 53September 21, 2019 6:21 AM

[quote]R24 he was a crazy maker who played with the wrong person.

Told ya I was hardcore - -

by Anonymousreply 54September 21, 2019 6:27 AM

[quote]R35 Brynn however was batshit crazy and I think very resentful of the fact he was famous and his fame wasn't getting her fame.

If she had just kept her cool and not offed anyone, she could have landed on REAL HOUSEWIVES...

I’d have liked to see her shut down Kim or Brandi... wielding a gun!

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by Anonymousreply 55September 21, 2019 6:33 AM

[quote]I thought it was Kevin Nealon and Jan Hooks.

Kevin Nealon & Jan Hooks dated when they were younger, pre-SNL. Phil & Jan were never a "couple"....but there was a definite attraction/kismet there. Brynn sensed it & resented it.

by Anonymousreply 56September 21, 2019 8:37 AM

I remember reading that Brynn fired their housekeeper after the housekeeper laughed at something Phil said. I can't imagine living with anybody that pathologically insecure.

by Anonymousreply 57September 21, 2019 8:50 AM

"Not so Fun" fact: Phil Hartman's Encino Ave house was designed by Robert Byrd......who designed 10050 Cielo Drive.

by Anonymousreply 58September 21, 2019 8:58 AM

^^^ I Googled "Hartman" and "Tate" and "Byrd" and "houses" and got squat.

So: link, please?

by Anonymousreply 59September 21, 2019 9:39 AM

Zoloft is an odd drug... works for many if they don't drink. Drinking with Zoloft creates very scary behaviour, I can only cocaine would make one even crazier. She mentioned to several people, including her shrink it made her feel like a zombie. She said she often felt numb and not present, or confused. This was mentioned in the documentary. The shrink never attempted to switch her to another SSRI or different antidepressant... just told her to break the tablet in half. It doesn't sound like she got good care.

I have seen people develop OCD and Agoraphobia whilst taking Zoloft. These symptoms ceased when they went off Zoloft. I also knew a woman who drank five or six glasses of wine every night on it, and previous to Zoloft she could handle drink. The drug made her as mad as a hatter. Thankfully there are better drugs now. Paxil and Zoloft aren't for everyone, and they were giving them out like candy back then. I don't think these two are offered as first line drugs any longer.

by Anonymousreply 60September 21, 2019 10:17 AM

Well R59, you can argue/question me if you want....but I grew up on Encino Ave, three doors north of 5065. That house was designed by Robert Byrd (after the 2 acre lot was subdivided in 1979).

by Anonymousreply 61September 21, 2019 10:49 AM

I still think Andy Dick was somehow involved with his death.

by Anonymousreply 62September 21, 2019 10:59 AM

R55- The GIF, the comment, LOL Perfection.... She TOTALLY would have ended up on RHOBH..

I watched this documentary and thought it was excellent.

Brynn was a FRIGHTENING pathologically insecure LUNATIC. This woman scared me. I had no idea she was that unhinged

Phil was definitely enigmatic. A gaslighter? I tend to agree- he apparently had that low grade sociopathic streak I have seen in both men and women. His trigger seemed to be women.

And someone nailed it above- It was a pretty shallow marriage- he picked the knockout who even once he tired of, was at least pretty to look at. And she was a FAMEWHORE who thought he would help her career. Did the love each other? To a point. And that's the problem.

They clearly loved their kids, and I believe that she was a good mother. But fuck, people like her scare me.

by Anonymousreply 63September 21, 2019 1:20 PM

[quote]There were rumors at the time the wife had been a hooker and that's how he met her.

And that would be wrong?

by Anonymousreply 64September 21, 2019 5:26 PM

R33 I agree, not a "comic genius" to me. I just don't laugh at that SNL kind of humor. However, for sure a talented album cover artist. I remember those America and Poco covers well.

Seemed like a nice guy as far as showbiz goes, and the doc went out of its way to emphasize he and Brynn were loving parents. Funny, so many photos show him with that fake, forced smile. You always have to figure comedy guys are masking some issues. The photos were he looks solemn seemed more authentic.

by Anonymousreply 65September 21, 2019 5:32 PM

Phil had a cool face. From angles he was tremendously handsome Other angles, pretty average.

I think he was a good guy who had issues.

I say again, that wife was scary as shit.

And her brother seemed like a dipshit.

by Anonymousreply 66September 21, 2019 5:36 PM

She wasn’t beautiful to me. A little odd looking at times.

by Anonymousreply 67September 21, 2019 6:17 PM

I thought she was quite pretty in the photos where she was wearing little to no makeup.

by Anonymousreply 68September 21, 2019 6:28 PM

How did Lovitz manage to work with Dick on News Radio for a season with such acrimony? That must have been one awkward set.

by Anonymousreply 69September 21, 2019 6:45 PM

Sweet.

Both Jan and Phil seemed like introverted loners. They may have been a perfect match of a couple who did their own things and didn't take offense at being ignored when the other wanted their "me" time.

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by Anonymousreply 70September 21, 2019 6:51 PM

[quote]I have seen people develop OCD and Agoraphobia whilst taking Zoloft.

No, honey. OCD and agoraphobia aren’t medication-induced. Get a real medical degree and get back to us.

by Anonymousreply 71September 21, 2019 6:59 PM

Good parenting doesn’t equal killing your children’s husband then yourself leaving your young children orphans. She was a sociopath who cared only about herself. That sums up her entire existence: me, me, me!!!

by Anonymousreply 72September 21, 2019 7:01 PM

Good parenting doesn’t equal killing your children’s father then yourself leaving your young children orphans. She was a sociopath who cared only about herself. That sums up her entire existence: me, me, me!!!

by Anonymousreply 73September 21, 2019 7:02 PM

For real guys- what would you diagnose her with??? She seemed to have a touch of EVERYTHING!??!

by Anonymousreply 74September 21, 2019 7:12 PM

Got a lot of armchair psychiatrists here. Isn't it enough to say she was off her rocker?

by Anonymousreply 75September 21, 2019 7:22 PM

[quote]Phil & Jan were never a "couple"....but there was a definite attraction/kismet there. Brynn sensed it & resented it.

From what has been posted on here over the years, Jan was devastated when Phil passed and it was one of the reasons as to why she pulled back from showbiz and became a recluse.

by Anonymousreply 76September 21, 2019 7:31 PM

R70 that's actually not the full text of her speech. Jan tells a sweet little anecdote about Phil before she reads the letter. I have the full audio of it and would be glad to share if someone could point me to where such a thing could be uploaded.

by Anonymousreply 77September 21, 2019 7:32 PM

[quote]How did Lovitz manage to work with Dick on News Radio for a season with such acrimony? That must have been one awkward set.

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that it was tense and awkward especially since Dick took credit for getting Brynn to use cocaine again and was nasty to Lovitz about the murder of Phil.

Dick was pals with David Stickland the actor from Suddenly Susan who committed suicide after being a drug binge with Dick and other pals. The rumor was that Strickland's costars have all hated Dick since then.

I also remembering watching episodes of that season Dick of that Celebrity Rehab show with Dr. Drew. In one episode, Mo Collins from MadTV confronted Dick about drama he caused in her life. I can't remember what it was about.

by Anonymousreply 78September 21, 2019 7:32 PM

It was a good documentary. Too much scary music, though. I guess audiences like that nowadays, or at least are programmed to expect it. I always think scary stories can be even scarier without all that music.

by Anonymousreply 79September 21, 2019 7:41 PM

[quote]r75 Got a lot of armchair psychiatrists here. Isn't it enough to say she was off her rocker?

I like that you have continued and built upon your "chair" theme, here.

by Anonymousreply 80September 21, 2019 8:55 PM

Comedians are nuts. They act crazy, do stupid things...like marrying a coke-addicted mental case.

by Anonymousreply 81September 21, 2019 9:05 PM

Jan in my opinion was far more beautiful than brynn. Straight men have odd taste. Jan and Phil would have made a great couple. Very sad story

by Anonymousreply 82September 22, 2019 12:15 AM

Hartman was the great love of Jan's life. Kevin Nealon said he just got the scraps left over from that relationship, and he knew her heart would always belong to Hartman.

Hartman WAS very sexy in his way, with that beautiful deep voice.

by Anonymousreply 83September 22, 2019 12:19 AM

Jan was apparently a loner who had lots of personal issues. She didn't want to be in a relationship, from what's been said about her. She was such a damn talent, so sad she died.

by Anonymousreply 84September 22, 2019 12:48 AM

Not lookin' for a fight, R58/61, just wondering how you knew re: such an interesting, beyond creepy fact. We ARE posting to a gossip board, after all.

by Anonymousreply 85September 22, 2019 6:07 AM

At the 5:50 mark in this clip you can see the house.

The way it’s integrated into the landscape and some of the use of windows (in addition to the old, countrified exterior vibe) resembles the design of the Tate house to a degree.

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by Anonymousreply 86September 22, 2019 7:16 AM

Joe Rogan said on his podcast that she was a crazy bitch. People would tell Phil he should divorce her because she was such a crazy bitch. It's a shame the kids had to live with her shitty family

by Anonymousreply 87September 22, 2019 9:39 AM

She seemed obsessed about wanting a career and was angry Phil couldn't or wouldn't make it happen for her.

by Anonymousreply 88September 22, 2019 10:21 AM

Camille Grammer also thought Kelsey could somehow magically hand her a career. He gave her a guest shot on Frasier but she's kind of weird looking and has zero charisma or talent. You can fuck your way onto a film or TV set, but to actually build a career the audience has to like you, and you can't fuck *all* of them to make that happen.

by Anonymousreply 89September 22, 2019 12:04 PM

[quote]Camille Grammer also thought Kelsey could somehow magically hand her a career... but she's kind of weird looking and has zero charisma or talent.

She had talent.

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by Anonymousreply 90September 22, 2019 4:25 PM

R62 Andy Dick was involved in Phil Hartman's death.

"Lovitz and Dick have been at loggerheads since a 1997 Christmas party at Hartman’s house, five months before his troubled wife Brynn flipped out, fatally shooting Hartman, then killing herself. 'Andy was doing cocaine, and he gave Brynn some after she had been sober for 10 years. Phil was furious about it - and then five months later he’s dead,' said Lovitz, adding that when he filled in on Hartman’s 'Newsradio' sitcom, 'I told Andy, ‘I wouldn’t be here now if you hadn’t given Brynn that cocaine.’ "

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by Anonymousreply 91September 22, 2019 4:37 PM

[quote]'Andy was doing cocaine, and he gave Brynn some after she had been sober for 10 years. Phil was furious about it - and then five months later he’s dead,' said Lovitz,

Sure - - don't blame the coke whore for shoving nose candy up her snout, blame a party guest!

by Anonymousreply 92September 22, 2019 4:42 PM

R92 She was responsible for shoving it up her nose. But Andy Dick was responsible too.

by Anonymousreply 93September 22, 2019 4:43 PM

Didn't Andy taunt John about it?

by Anonymousreply 94September 22, 2019 10:14 PM

R94 I think he did. I recall some story that Andy and Jon got into a fight at a comedy club in LA after NewsRadio ended regarding Phil's death.

by Anonymousreply 95September 22, 2019 10:28 PM

R94 and R95 Click the link on R90 's post. You can read the whole story.

Yes, Andy Dick taunted Jon Lovitz and Lovitz kicked his ass.

by Anonymousreply 96September 22, 2019 11:06 PM

I watched this. Unfortunately, I love Phil, but I feel they both suffered from undiagnosed mental illnesses. I think Phil’s passive aggressive silent self, escalated Brynn’s mental illness as a result she chose to mask the pain with Cocaine and alcohol. Do I feel Zoloft exasperated the problem, no. Although, drinking and Cocaine was the real culprit - add Zoloft and everything becomes FUCKED up.

by Anonymousreply 97September 22, 2019 11:12 PM

R97 I read somewhere the Phil Hartman could completely ignore his wife Brynn for weeks at a time. They are living in the same house and he could go for weeks pretending she didn't exist.

Hartman was quoted in interviews talking about how he drove all of his wives crazy by retreating into his "cave".

This is an ultimate example of passive/aggressive emotional abuse and it sounds like classic narcissistic abuse.

Hartman may very well have had Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

This was Hartman's third marriage - so she wasn't the only one with issues - and if she wasn't blonde and beautiful Hartman would not have had anything to with her.

by Anonymousreply 98September 22, 2019 11:22 PM

Let’s not gloss over the death threat letter she sent his ex-wife.

by Anonymousreply 99September 22, 2019 11:38 PM

And Phil made a joke about it to his ex-wife saying, “You should see the letter she wanted to send!” He knew his wife was batshit insane and Phil was a longtime gun nut.

by Anonymousreply 100September 22, 2019 11:39 PM

R100, My former boss married a woman like Brynn. She was a super bitch to other people. She didn't take shit from anyone. He thought it was cute and allowed/tolerated her behavior for years. Then she turned it all on him. Now he's dead. She is too, but she died of natural causes a year and a half after she killed him

by Anonymousreply 101September 22, 2019 11:45 PM

R98 states so eloquently, I completely agree. I wonder if Phil had a duel diagnosis?

by Anonymousreply 102September 22, 2019 11:48 PM

he sounds like a gaslighting narcissist. she sounds like a suckhole of need for attention before you add drugs. add drugs and she's a piece of shit who murdered her husband and left 2 small children in the house for hours with the dead body as a babysitter. so, fuck her.

by Anonymousreply 103September 22, 2019 11:51 PM

R99 Wow. Didn't know about that.

Mental illness and nastiness are both prevalent among comedians. As such, Hartman may have a taste for insane women. Maybe healthier, more stable women had no interest in him.

Did they say what provoked the nasty, threatening letter that Brynn sent?

by Anonymousreply 104September 22, 2019 11:53 PM

yes, the ex wife sent a letter congratulating about the birth of the baby

by Anonymousreply 105September 22, 2019 11:54 PM

R105 No. That's it???

by Anonymousreply 106September 23, 2019 12:02 AM

I totally agree with those who are saying that Hartman was not a comic genius.

by Anonymousreply 107September 23, 2019 12:12 AM

Details R101?

by Anonymousreply 108September 23, 2019 12:15 AM

Maybe not a comic genius but a genius impersonator. I just watched the doc last night and his impersonation of Pres. Clinton helped his rise substantially. At the time I really did like him and I especially liked his Talk Radio character. Andy certainly likes to live up to his name and as an addict of course he had to know what he was doing when he gave her cocaine. In the piece, he is super nonchalant about it. He leans into the idea since there was six months between the time he shared cocaine with her and the night she shot Phil, there was no connection. Sure she's responsible for actually taking it, but why would you do that to someone you know has drug issues. Unless of course misery loves company and given Andy's struggles...

From the special I didn't get that Phil has mental illness. A kind of easily bored asshole, sure who instead of getting a divorce stayed. Maybe the kids were a factor.

I had no idea he designed album covers prior to comedy/acting. The timing of the documentary does seem odd, but I enjoyed seeing it presented as a cohesive narrative because at the time it seemed so out of the blue. Also it's a prime example of the importance of red flag laws. Mental illness, drug addiction and two guns in the house with young children.

by Anonymousreply 109September 23, 2019 12:42 AM

The whole special is on Youtube.....

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by Anonymousreply 110September 23, 2019 2:31 AM

For R85:

PHIL HARTMAN HOME IS FOR SALE

The Encino home of the late Phil Hartman has been listed at $1.65 million. The comedian, fatally shot in his sleep by his wife on May 28, had owned the home since 1988, sources said.

Built in 1980, the house, where Hartman's wife committed suicide after taking his life, has five bedrooms in a bit more than 4,000 square feet. It is behind gates on half an acre.

The home has several levels, including a loft, many built-ins and custom wood cabinets. It also has three wet bars and three fireplaces, with handcrafted mantels.

The house looks like a Swiss chalet, sources say. It was designed by architect Robert Byrd, known for his Hansel-and-Gretel knotty-pine designs. Byrd also extensively used brick, rock and flagstone in the Hartman house.

The home is being sold by the Hartmans' estate. The former Saturday Night Live star, who was most recently a regular on the sitcom NewsRadio and did a voice in the movie Small Soldiers, and his wife of 10 years are survived by two children, son Sean, 9, and daughter Birgen, 6. The comedian was 49; his wife was 40.

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by Anonymousreply 111September 23, 2019 5:52 AM

R111 perfect timing for the documentary.

by Anonymousreply 112September 23, 2019 5:54 AM

R112 The article R111 linked is from 1998.

by Anonymousreply 113September 23, 2019 8:17 AM

The Anal Retentive Chef was a work of inspired lunacy.

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by Anonymousreply 114September 23, 2019 3:49 PM

Interesting that he got friendly with his second wife while he was married to his third. It’s as if he enjoyed being with her, but from a safe distance. Why are comedians so weird?

by Anonymousreply 115September 23, 2019 4:27 PM

Interesting that he got friendly with his second wife while he was married to his third. It’s as if he enjoyed being with her, but from a safe distance. Why are comedians so weird?

by Anonymousreply 116September 23, 2019 4:27 PM

I watched the full documentary on ABC’s website yesterday and it was really interesting. He sounded like he had serious issues himself when they talked about how he treated his first two wives. I was surprised the second wife was still willing to be friendly with him after they divorced.

I also thought it was funny when his male friend said that Phil’s wife had them followed when they would go boating together because she was suspicious that Phil and the male friend might be gay and having an affair.😄

by Anonymousreply 117September 23, 2019 7:06 PM

One of those guys who would've been better off never marrying and just having a string of girlfriends. He was too solitary and aloof to be in a marriage.

by Anonymousreply 118September 23, 2019 8:23 PM

Was she an escort? Her friends seem to hint at that between 11:00 and 13:15 in the E True Hollywood Story episode. I also think it's weird that if she was a model there are no photos.

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by Anonymousreply 119September 23, 2019 10:09 PM

She used to date Rob Reiner

by Anonymousreply 120September 26, 2019 9:34 AM

R118 Yes absolutely. I think he fell for the bullshit idea that a successful man must have a beautiful wife and 2.5 kids by his side to make everything complete. R120 They mentioned in the documentary that this was sort of a plus in Hartman's eyes, that it gave her a sort of Hollywood pedigree or something. I think Rob Reiner gave her a very tiny part in one of his movies after they broke up but she was never going to make it as an actress.

One thing that I was curious about was her life before she met Phil. That type of crazy doesn't generally spring out of nowhere. No matter how much people try to blame Andy Dick, I will never buy that he was responsible for this. I think Dick behaves like such a disordered freak that it makes him an easy target to pin this on, but when you think about it blaming him makes no sense . This was a Hollywood party of course there were drugs. I'm sure he gave coke to countless other Hollywood wives who managed not to go off the deep end. If Brynn didn't get coke from him she just would have asked someone else at the party.

by Anonymousreply 121September 26, 2019 2:59 PM

He got her a spot during the opening credits of SNL, she's the woman with him.

She was like other women who were the prettiest in their high school class and thought they'd easily make in Hollywood only to realize their are thousands of other prettiest girls there too.

by Anonymousreply 122September 26, 2019 3:25 PM

Streaming it now. He seemed really shallow and materialistic. The women in his life were mere objects to him. The ones he married were like shiny toys he eventually got tired of. Eventually he dissed the wrong one. Kinda got what was coming.

by Anonymousreply 123September 26, 2019 7:34 PM

She did appear to have that height, big hair, slim sexy body, quiet foxy demeanor and OOMPH factor. You see women like her at celebrity restaurants in LA, a real va-va-voom presence when they enter the room. The type famous guys want on their arm.

by Anonymousreply 124September 26, 2019 7:51 PM

^^^ R124 here, wanted to add, the classic example of this that I once witnessed was back in the 80s, when Joe Piscopo entered (of all places) Mel's Drive-In in Hollywood one night when I was there. He had his former babysitter-turned-girlfriend on his arm, and WOW what a smokeshow she was in her tight minidress.

by Anonymousreply 125September 26, 2019 7:54 PM

Perfectly fair and logical assessment R121. I really believe it was the synergistic effect of booze+Paxil=mad as a fucking hatter, and doubt cocaine turns a sane person into a pyscho killer.

by Anonymousreply 126September 26, 2019 7:55 PM

R71 What may I ask is your medical degree? I'm not alleging that this drug induces these symptoms as a prima facie cause, creating the diseases, as anecdotal cases do not always support a cause and effect relationship. There remains however, a relationship nonetheless, which we refer to as an association in the medical literature. Both are real seperate conditions, however traits or hallmarks of these two can most definitely present as adverse effects with this drug. Your incredulity, and opinion to the contrary does not, and cannot discount the events described in the literature. Furthermore, your opinion is meaningless in the presence of the symptoms displayed by the two individuals I know.

Many psychoactive drugs can have similar effects. Likewise, many SSRIs cause some patients to experience suicidal ideation, and result in suicide. It is always hard to say what came first in many of these cases. Many Psychiatrists believe there may underlie a pre-existing condition, or propensity to develop these and the drug in question acts as a catalyst to bring it about. The same theory has been held in high esteem with Schizophrenia and recreational drug use. Does LSD or THC cause Schizophrenia? No, not entirely, however it may very well elicit it in those with a given genetic predisposition to Schizophrenia. Paxil is known to elicit OCD tendencies in some patients as well.

by Anonymousreply 127September 26, 2019 8:36 PM

Everyone knows Zoloft and Paxil fuck people up worse than they were before.

by Anonymousreply 128September 26, 2019 9:45 PM

R128 Yes, and many don't need to hold a medical degree to realise it! Most who begin SSRIs do not comply with the meds because they either cannot tolerate the side-effects, or they simply refuse to. This is not well known BTW, outside the field. Most are not given serious thought when they complain either, as Brynn wasn't afforded a different option, but to cut the tablets in half. I don't hold a medical degree, but do have an undergraduate degree in Psychology, and have done some medical writing in my long years. I grew up reading the journals, and still do, as my father was a shrink.

by Anonymousreply 129September 26, 2019 10:05 PM

Brynn was addicted to cocaine and alcohol.

It wasn’t Zoloft that made her crazy.

by Anonymousreply 130September 26, 2019 10:54 PM

Whose murder will ABC showcase next, Sal Mineo?

by Anonymousreply 131September 26, 2019 11:12 PM

I'm not going to argue about whether he was a genius, but VERY few actors could do "asshole with zero self awareness" as well as he could.

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by Anonymousreply 132September 26, 2019 11:30 PM

I found it strange the SNL writer (forgot her name) found it perfectly normal for Brynn to be snorting cocaine in the bathroom. The writer said, ‘I didn’t think it was strange walking into the bathroom and seeing Brynn do lines of cocaine. I mean it is SNL.’

Yowza.

by Anonymousreply 133September 26, 2019 11:32 PM

[quote] I really believe it was the synergistic effect of booze+Paxil=mad as a fucking hatter

You're allowed to believe any old thing you want. I'm a pharmacist. You don't have the teeny, tiniest idea of how many people are on SSRI's (paxil, prozac, zolfot, lexapro et al) . Tens and tens and tens of million people are on them. I'd bet a cool $1 million that half of them have drank alcohol while on them. Believing your "synergistic theory of bullshit", most on the country would be dead by now

by Anonymousreply 134September 27, 2019 9:01 PM

R133 That was Christine Zander. She was around during some of the Chris Farley years. She probably saw Farley and other cast members or writers doing coke during writing sessions.

by Anonymousreply 135September 28, 2019 8:29 PM

Sal Mineo should get his own special on ABC.

by Anonymousreply 136September 28, 2019 8:35 PM

She wanted to be an actress but I about died laughing when they showed clips of her total of two different acting jobs that had a total of one or two lines. She could NOT act for shit😄. She was completely monotone, emotionless and expressionless 😑.

She was seriously delusional.

by Anonymousreply 137September 28, 2019 8:51 PM

Why did she bring her friend over to the house afterwards? Was she trying to set him up?

by Anonymousreply 138September 29, 2019 2:05 AM

[quote]He got her a spot during the opening credits of SNL, she's the woman with him.

That scene was supposedly a real bitch to shoot because Brynn kept ignoring direction and tried to get her face in view of the camera. The crew hated her.

by Anonymousreply 139September 29, 2019 2:21 AM

R134 Zoloft is not like the others. Until you keep company with someone drinking to excess and snorting boatloads of cocaine, your opinion isn't relevant. I'm sure the studies on Zoloft didn't include a drinking and snorting control group. She exhibited side effects from the beginning. You may prescribe many SSRIs, but that wouldn't necessarily make you an expert witness for the pharmaceutical companies. Zoloft as well as Paxil can create anxiety, hyperactivity, and a dissociative characteristics. This is why so many patients on them are also prescribed tranquilisers or mood stabilisers in conjunction.

by Anonymousreply 140September 29, 2019 2:34 AM

Furthermore R134 I certainly do hope you are not encouraging your clients in thinking it is good practise to drink with Sertraline. You can google side effects with the combination of alcohol and Zoloft. More than any other, people experience severe agitation, violent tendencies, blackout, and suicidal ideation. Seratonin syndrome is quite common with mixing Sertraline and drink. Mixing other drugs along with alcohol, which increase Seratonin, and you're really taking chances. Most of the literature and most doctors say the verdict is still out on whether it is safe to even drink moderately on Sertraline.

by Anonymousreply 141September 29, 2019 3:13 AM

The shot of Phil in the SNL opening credits shows the back of Brynn (she renamed herself that) and her earring swinging because they'd told her for 10th time to turn around. I wonder how their kids are doing. They moved in with her parents to Eau Claire Wisconsin which was also home to one of Manson's kids who was also sent to live with grandparents.

by Anonymousreply 142September 30, 2019 2:03 PM

^^^ So what's yer point, R142? You might wanna watch yer step, ya little piggy!

by Anonymousreply 143September 30, 2019 2:58 PM

Why hasn't been this turned into Lifetime movie yet?

by Anonymousreply 144September 30, 2019 7:02 PM

R144 seems more appropriate to make a movie. Phil deserves a big screen picture, versus just lifetime movie.

by Anonymousreply 145September 30, 2019 7:28 PM

who the hell could play him tho?

by Anonymousreply 146September 30, 2019 7:36 PM

R146 Daryl Hammond? Steve Carrell

by Anonymousreply 147September 30, 2019 7:38 PM

weirdly, I think John hamm would work really well as him in a movie

by Anonymousreply 148September 30, 2019 7:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 149September 30, 2019 7:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 150September 30, 2019 7:41 PM

Sharon Stone could play Brynn!

by Anonymousreply 151September 30, 2019 7:43 PM

it would probably be bryan Cranston though

by Anonymousreply 152September 30, 2019 7:46 PM

I like the Jon Hamm idea. And Andy Dick could play himself. Judy Greer could play Brynn.

by Anonymousreply 153September 30, 2019 8:13 PM

[quote]Sharon Stone could play Brynn!

Sure... if she was 21 years younger.

by Anonymousreply 154September 30, 2019 8:27 PM

Stone still appears young enough, as Brynn looked hard.

by Anonymousreply 155September 30, 2019 8:37 PM

R153 Lol wouldn't that be the ultimate FUCK YOU to ol' Brynn-Vicky?

by Anonymousreply 156September 30, 2019 9:06 PM

Victoria Chase could play Brynn.

by Anonymousreply 157October 1, 2019 1:48 AM

Jason Priestly was trying to develop a Phil Hartman biopic years ago.

by Anonymousreply 158October 1, 2019 2:04 AM

Snapped should of snapped this story up.

by Anonymousreply 159October 1, 2019 2:16 AM

[quote]Victoria Chase could play Brynn.

Why not Victoria JACKSON?

by Anonymousreply 160October 1, 2019 3:59 AM

[quote]She was like other women who were the prettiest in their high school class

Uh...

Brynn was homely as fuck and looked like a tranny (seriously, Photoshop blue eyes, red lipstick and a blonde wig on Howard Stern and marvel at the resemblance). It's incredible how you get the whole world handed to you on a silver platter so long as you're a tall, skinny, blonde woman with or without fake tits. Some straight men drool over Ann Coulter, FFS!

And I love Phil's work but I don't fall for the BS regarding him either. Phil knew what Brynn was like—the fact that he joked about her sending threats to his ex-wife says it all. He was likely a shallow narc (is there any other kind?) who picked her out of all people so he can play the part of "sweet, put-upon husband married to evil psycho bitch."

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by Anonymousreply 161October 1, 2019 5:20 PM

Stuck for eternity next to the whack-a-doo who murdered him in his sleep and left his small children orphaned...

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by Anonymousreply 162October 1, 2019 5:30 PM

Christ. Buried next to each other

by Anonymousreply 163October 1, 2019 7:36 PM

His ashes were scattered off Catalina Island, so that's just a marker. I assume the names were placed together for their children. Still, it doesn't seem right.

by Anonymousreply 164October 1, 2019 8:05 PM

R164 No, no it does not.

by Anonymousreply 165October 4, 2019 4:26 AM

I've read that Phil Hartman's SNL castmates didn't like Brynn at all - they knew she was batshit crazy right from the get-go, and didn't like that she was always hanging around the SNL studio.

by Anonymousreply 166October 4, 2019 4:28 AM

Why of all people did he choose Brynn? I'm sure there were plenty of blonde trophy wife types available who would at worst, go on a shopping spree with his credit card if she felt slighted. Why did he gravitate towards someone so batshit?

by Anonymousreply 167October 4, 2019 4:39 AM

R167 Phil had his own emotional and mental issues. Obviously nothing like hers, but people close to him said he had a serious problem with not knowing how to express his feelings or emotions. His second ex-wife said that on their first anniversary, they went away for what was supposed to be a romantic weekend, and he wanted nothing to do with her sexually, so she just got out a book and read.

My guess is that by the time he met Brynn, he figured he better try to make this one work no matter what since he was 40 and not getting any younger and already had two failed marriages.

by Anonymousreply 168October 4, 2019 7:27 AM

[quote]Why did he gravitate towards someone so batshit?

See what I wrote earlier:

[quote]He was likely a shallow narc (is there any other kind?) who picked her out of all people so he can play the part of "sweet, put-upon husband married to evil psycho bitch."

It's a bit like a " good girl" from a well-respected family dating an abusve tattooed thug, she secretly gets off on making people tut behind her back and wonder "What does she see in him?" and "She can do so much better!" etc.

I'm sure Phil was an awesome guy to be friends/colleagues with, but that doesn't mean he wasn't fucked-up in his own way.

by Anonymousreply 169October 4, 2019 7:45 AM

His weird performance in TalkRadio confirms R168. He is bizarrely unresponsive to the other actors. What he is doing and his line readings make sense....but you never believe that they are actual responses to what everyone else is saying and doing.

He does not interact.

by Anonymousreply 170October 4, 2019 12:47 PM

Maybe he saw a side of hers that other didn't. There was more to her that maybe only he knew about. Love is a complex thing. None of us know how they were to each other behind the scenes. Bill and Hillary have a seemingly strange and dysfunctional relationship but they are still drawn to each other. Love is weird.

(Who can explain it, who can tell you why? Fools give you reasons, wise men never try.)

by Anonymousreply 171October 4, 2019 1:19 PM

R170 His still photos, to me, are revealing, whether it's a publicity shot or at an event. Always a very fake smile.

by Anonymousreply 172October 5, 2019 1:45 PM

joe rogan said that phil was desperate to not get divorced because he thought it was cliche in hollywood to get a divorce. joe said at parties and social gatherings his wife was openly hostile, cruel and made derogatory comments about phil in front of everyone. poor guy was doomed from "i do".

by Anonymousreply 173October 5, 2019 2:38 PM

R171 It was said by many observers that she was abusive to him in front of others, so I can only imagine how bad it was in private.

by Anonymousreply 174October 5, 2019 11:08 PM
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