Things that annoy you about the Golden Girls

That old bitch Sophia carrying on with her curses and vendettas. And her boasting about how good her maranara sauce tastes. I would have taken that sauce and poured it inside her tasteless wicker handbag!

Dorothy wasn't upset about the black thing. She was upset about the age difference. It was Lorriane's mother who was mad about her marrying a white boy. Get it right OP.

I hated the clip episodes!

Anybody who says Dorothy wasn't upset about Lorraine being black needs to watch the episode again. FUCKFACES!! I'm pretty sure she also said Lorraine wasn't "good enough" for him.

R4: No, bitch. It was the age for Dorothy, the race for Lorriane's mother, whatever her name was. Cut the crap.

[R5] Bitch please. Dorothy was even bickering in the tail-end of that episode. The mother wanted to name it Jamal and Dorothy wanted a more white sounding name like Roger. Get it through your fucking skull.

That Dorothy had to tell Blanche that women look better on their backs. The woman had a mirror on her ceiling!

R6: Bitch, the name was Lamar to which Dorothy complained about putting a "kick me" sign on his back. You clearly don't know the episode and have no idea what you're talking about. Dorothy was about age, Mama Lorraine about race. They came to a bickering detente at the end. End of discussion. Now cut the crap, sit down and shut up.

Their helmet hairstyles. And Blanche's hair, seriously, this was a former beauty queen? It looked like Supercuts.

[R8] Don't lecture me, I literally just watched the episode again. Dorothy says Michael and Lorrain are too different, then lists the differences, which included age AND race. Shut up, go away and stop posting.

The old clips episodes were bad enough, but what has long annoyed/confused me is the *fake* clip episodes that were set up with the same structure - everyone sitting in the kitchen reminiscing - but then the "clips" were actually new material. There were at least one or two of these episodes. They feel like an attempt to find a home for some lame quarter-ideas that wouldn't even work as "B" plots in a normal episode.

The amount of bandwith they consume on DL.

R8: I guess you missed the skinny white boy comment early on in that episode when you recently re watched.

[quote]And her boasting about how good her maranara sauce tastes

Marinara sauce is just lumpy juice

Recycling actors - most egregiously with Miles/Arnie. I know Rose was dumb, but nobody else noticed it was the same guy? And then the general continuity issues with family members, etc.of course.

R13: No, that's the point I'm making that Lorriane's mother was complaining about the race difference. It's little miss OP who doesn't have a clue here.

They could never remember how long they'd been widows for!

OP needs one upside the head with a mellonballer.

Dorothy was racist in that episode. Heck, even Sophia was referring to Lorrain's mother and her aunts as "Martha and the Vandellas"

Sophia looked like a gerbil yet she kept getting sex. How could any man (pre-viagra) get it up for the wizened old bag?

The toothless blowjobs?

I thought it was made very clear via innuendo that both Sophia and Blanche were up for anal...Rose and Dorothy not so much...

I don't understand the question.

I didn't like the many contradictions!

[quote]Things that annoy you about the Golden Girls

The Golden Girls

I didn't mind the clip shows that were comprised of new material, but the regular clip shows were always the worst. I guess it made sense back in the days before TV shows being available readily on VHS, DVD, and streaming, because maybe you'd see something you'd never seen before or hadn't seen for awhile, but in this day and age of instant streaming, it's pretty annoying.

The ladies weren't the most culturally sensitive. Blanche was awful to her gay brother. She was awful to fat Rebecca. She really cared about keeping up appearances, in spite of being the town mattress. Sophia had issues with her cross-dressing son and was afraid of AIDS. Rose had a strict moral code. Dorothy was the most liberal, but even she had her moments.

It annoyed me that they basically bullied Blanche into selling 3/4 of her home.

Not exclusive to GG nn the '80s, but the heavy-handed "serious issue" episodes were a little cringey. I hated the episode with the blind sister. I never rewatch that one.

A technical annoyance. The director always staged them sitting on the same side of the table--even if there were four of them. Or three on the same side with one standing. I'm a camera coordinator and believe me there is a way to shoot table scenes without doing this. This is the sign of a LAZY director.

The worst "very special episode" was the one with Geraldine Fitzgerald wanting to kill herself. Jesus, that was a downer. Rose addicted to pain pills was a close second.

I don’t think OP knows what “sans” means.

The homeless shelter episode was pretty bad too.

The fact most of the male guest stars were always so fucking ugly. Leslie Nielsen and Donnelly Rhodes being the main exceptions. Why were the men so fucking ugly?

You're hardly going to get great looking guys queueing up for Sophia or Dorothy, are you?

And Blanche dates ugly primarily to subconsciously punish herself for cheating on George's memory.

R35 o fuck off asshole. These men were presented as good looking but never were.

R36 don't you dare be so rude! There's no call for rudeness when discussing the Golden Girls!

You will always be called out for your stupidity and cuntitude, cunt.

R38 you're the cunt. Fuck off.

For me, The Golden Girls was one of the few times where I felt like a lot of the male romantic leads matched the attractiveness of the females and vice versa. You didn't see Ed Asner ending up with Raquel Welch or Adam Sandler ending up with Rose McGowan. I liked that it was fairly realistic and then, after years of being made fun of for her lack of dates and for her looks, Dorothy nabs Leslie Nielsen.

For those of you who do not know that Lorraine’s mother’s name was Greta, get off of this thread. You are not worthy.

The Golden Girls Stans who keep 8 Golden Girls threads alive at all times are the most annoying.

Question for the Golden Girls fans: Do any of you have testicles?

R43: Yep. Mine created the sperm which I deposited into your husband last night, bitch.

i never watched this shit, unless i was home friday night with the flu.

I was annoyed that Pat and Kathy were referred to as image consultants while Dorothy and Blanche were called lesbians.

That upset Dorothy as well.

R45 is clueless.

The Golden Girls was a Saturday night series.

Not to feed the trolls, but R35/R36 are morons. As if Hal Linden, Leslie Nielsen, Donnelly Rhodes, Henry Darrow and Cesar Romero among others were hideous.

R48 Two of those guys were mentioned, stupid fuck.

Blanche ALWAYS wearing open-toed shoes and gasping for air when talking.

Rose's hairstyle never changing.

Dorothy wearing the same grey boots throughout the entirety of Season 4.

The exclamation point Be a carved into the door.

Dorothy constantly adjusting her clothing.

Sophia carrying her purse all over the house.

Watering and misting the fakest plants on the planet.

Wearing sweaters and multiple layers in Miami.

For most scenes outside the main set, the worst, cheapest, most unrealistic sets in the history of television.

James Campanella and George Clooney played FBI agents camped out at the Golden Girls house, spying on the Girls’ neighbors. Episode was called “To Catch a Neighbor.” The Campanella character was attractive and he and Dorothy ended up attracted to each other. It was actually believable, IMO.

Annoyance: Rose was rarely funny. Her stories were long-winded and boring. Not cute.

r42: Eat dirt and die, trash.

r41, I thought her name was Martha, and her sisters were both named Vandella.

The Dorothy/Sophia characters should have been Jewish, not Italian.

I suppose that would have alienated viewers in middle America, but not only were Estelle and Bea actually Jewish, so were Herb Edelman and Bill Dana (who played Sophia's bother).

R52-Something tells me he was VERY well hung too.

I disagree, R51. I thought the cemetery set when Blanche's father dies was beautiful as were the banquet halls and Dr. Budd's restaurant.

Love Betty White the person and the actor, hated the character of Rose Nyland and those stupid St. Olaf stories that got more ridiculous season after season. They weren't the least bit funny, distracted from the story line and make Dorothy look mean with her reactions.

I agree most of the St Olaf stories were ridiculous and few are amusing. If Rose was so obsessed with the place she should have moved back there and shoved the flying heron up her wrinkled old fanny! Murdering bitch!

[quote] The Dorothy/Sophia characters should have been Jewish, not Italian.

IIRC, Estelle Getty agreed that the Sophia character should have been Jewish.

[quote]and shoved the flying heron up her wrinkled old fanny!

The flying WHAT?!

[quote]James Campanella

JOSEPH Campanella, you fat stupid whore!

The character of Sophia's mother (played by Bea) in one of those flashback episodes. They'd never even mentioned her existence, but we're supposed to believe that she lived in Brooklyn, too? And spoke perfect, unaccented English?

[quote]The worst "very special episode" was the one with Geraldine Fitzgerald wanting to kill herself. Jesus, that was a downer.

She was also in another downer episode -- the Mother's Day fake clip show where Rose meets her at the bus station en route to St. Olaf.

Was the episode where they accidentally go to a nudist resort one of those fake clip show episodes?

[quote]Was the episode where they accidentally go to a nudist resort one of those fake clip show episodes?

Yes, and I think that episode has the distinction of being the ONLY one where you ever saw even a tiny bit of Dorothy's bare legs.

Given the show's timeline would any of the girls be alive today in 2019? Would they still be living together?

Loved Rose's endless stories. Betty's delivery, and Bea and Estelle's reactions always made me laugh.

I did find the treacly special episodes or themes annoying. And that "Empty Nest" preview episode with Paul Dooley and Rita Moreno is really horrendous.

I love the Not Another Monday, more for the b story when the girls invite Harry over for a drank. And then they sing Mr. Sandman.

Based on Sophia’s antics and insults, I would’ve tossed that old cunt into Shady Pines years ago.

I have a theory about you sad old queens obsessed with this show that finished decades ago. You all wish you were the golden girls. Of course all of you would say you were Blanche but in reality you're Dorothy or Sophia.

R71 So unfair and wrong. In reality I'm Rose.

Blanche's bedroom was tacky, tacky tacky. That headboard with the comforter and curtains to match. Who thought that looked good?

R73 If your sex life is as active as mine, no one notices the decor darling.

Sucks to be you.

I hate what they did to Coco.

I loved the wall paper in Blanche's room.

So tropical...........hot and .... wet...

R54, Greta’s Sisters names were Trudy and Libby.

R66, we also saw Dorothy’s bare legs when she played tennis with her old high school friend named Trudy.

Hey R71, how would you like a punch in your paface! What would YOU rather talk about?

[quote]That headboard with the comforter and curtains to match.

They were all the rage back then. They were called “bed in a bag” and, generally speaking, if your curtains didn’t match your bedspread, your room didn’t “come together.” Nowadays it’s the opposite. Amazing how things change.

nothing on it really annoys me. i just took as it is, an entertaining funny ssitcom about old people.

I just finished watching the murder mystery weekend episode. Two characters in the mystery were named Phillip and Gloria. And why would they be so fooled by the second murder?

The Sophia backstory made absolutely no sense. Wouldn't she have had an Italian accent?

That Rose and Jean never lezzed it up, the sexual tension between the two was palpable...

Sometimes I couldn't tell if Dorothy was wearing a nightgown or a dress. Especially that UFO episode.

I just watched the episode where Sophia goes off to become a nun.

The other plot was Blanch(in a nurse's outfit) & Rose try to get evidence for Rose's car accident (done by Blanche).

Rose, Blanche & the gut with a faked neck injury all come running out from behind a door in the hallway but I don't recall the door in any other episodes before or after this one.

Can anyone else recall a hall door there as you enter the living room? It seems like it was added only for this episode to add a "surprise factor" to the show's ending where all 3 characters run out the front door.

R85 you're right! We can only assume the door is always propped open, which is a fire hazard and Blanche could be sued!

That Hulu restores the cut scenes that Hallmark deleted (good!) but still uses the abbreviated opening song!!

I love this show, but it gets on my nerves how mean they are to each other sometimes, they should have scaled it back a little. Also, why were they so mad at Blanche's son in law about how he talked to her overweight daughter, when they did the same thing? They were assholes to her too.

Yeah R88. I guess they all thought their fat jokes were superior to his.

He should've told them to '"Eat dirt & die trash!" as he left the room.

Aren't some of the episodes being shown on cable unedited? I noticed that sometimes they show them in 35 or 40 minute time slots; I assumed these were the originals with just more commercials than when originally broadcast on NBC.

R50, lots of women stick with the same hairstyle from middle age onward. Besides, I think that particular style was supposed to be part of Rose’s general dowdiness. Also, Sophia always carrying her purse was a thing; it was meant to be a joke. (And perhaps a humorous reference to that other woman who famously carries her handbag everywhere.)

Coco was a problem. Where was e supposed to sleep?

R92 In Sophia's room. In the pilot Sophia didn't live here yet, her home had just burned down. If you know about Coco you should know that.

The whole rooms situation bugs me. Rose had the room near the end on the left, but can sometimes be seen coming out of one of the rooms on the right. Maybe they just did that because it's quicker?

Dorothy and Sophia had the two smallest rooms, but whenever company visited, they were forced to share a room...and a bed at that! It's a little disturbing seeing a senior woman sleeping with her mother. Especially since Rose had a big-ass room with a couch that could easily accommodate an extra person (Jean the lesbian slept there, but maybe that was just because it was convenient for the plot).

Not really a problem, but I always wanted those dressers with 12 drawers in them like Sophia had in her room. Where the hell did she find those?

[quote]Not really a problem, but I always wanted those dressers with 12 drawers in them like Sophia had in her room. Where the hell did she find those?

Picture it. Sicily. 1924. A little man was selling his wares in my village. Papa saw something he liked and brought it home. Nice? We didn’t use it as a dresser, it was where we slept! And it was a treat. Mrs. Mangiacavallo’s kids had to sleep on the floor.

R50, Betty White has gone on record to say that she has always hated her hair and nothing much could be done with it. Even on the Mary Tyler Moore show her hairdo was similar to that of what was on the Golden Girls as well as everything else going forward. That said, love her.

Rose looked pretty when she wore her hair up. Or am I confusing this with Betty when she won her Emmy? It suited her but maybe too glam for the character!

Jean didn't sleep on Rose's couch, she shared her bed. Hence when she in her bed and tells Rose how much she likes her, Rose pretends to snore.

Angela Lansbury is another one who barely altered her hair in many years. The last time was when she slapped that ginger wig on to play Cousin Emma!

Their porch on set didn't match the exterior shots of the house.

R98 please don't go down that particular rabbit hole!

Here's Betty with Bea's heavily desired (and supposed cause of a rift) Emmy! Her hairstyle makes her look younger.

R98 please don't go down that particular rabbit hole!

Here's Betty with Bea's heavily desired (and supposed cause of a rift) Emmy! Her hairstyle makes her look younger.

Thank you for fuckin' my end

Fucked it once or twice and then again

My heart is true

You're a pal, not a stupid Jew

And if you threw a party, invited everyone but Jews

You would see

Every damn Is-ra-al-ee

Would say "Oy vey I'm so oppressed, plant trees in Is-ra-el"

Can anyone speculate why Rue and Bea were never nominated for an Emmy after season 4 when Betty was in for all 7 seasons? I didn't think her work was any more impressive.

In fact, Rue did some of her best work in season 7 in the episodes: "George is alive", "Grammy's plantation", " Makes me feel like a lady", "Murder mystery weekend" and "Rusty Anchor".

Need you ask?

r98 What'd I say? Has this been addressed in the past? (LOL)

r99 What'd I say? Has this been addressed in the past? (LOL)

R97: No, I am right. Rewatch the episode if you don't believe me.

I could be mis-remembering! Your point is correct though, Rose's room was even nicer than Blanche's and had an awesome appearing/disappearing ensuite!

R107 I didn't want a large bedroom that could accommodate a couch (which that lezzie did in fact sleep on when she was rejected by that airhead).

Some of my gentleman guests might want to stay there & I'd be personally insulted as the great southern hostess that I am.

Plus getting the ceiling mirrored in a smaller bedroom saves time, money & makes it more difficult for them to play "hard to get" dahling.

Blanche retracting how slutty she is when it suits the storyline

It was Blanche and George’s house and they had 6 children. So I’m assuming the kids had to share rooms. Janet & Rebecca in one room. Matthew, Biff, Doug and Skippy split between the other two? In the pilot in appears that Blanche’s bedroom is on the other side of the house, where they go out to sit on the lanai.

[quote]In fact, Rue did some of her best work in season 7 in the episodes: "George is alive", "Grammy's plantation", " Makes me feel like a lady", "Murder mystery weekend" and "Rusty Anchor".

Betty got the nomination that year for Dateline Miami, which was a headscratcher because Betty does nothing really special in the episode. Rue submitted the Rusty Anchor episode.

I've been watching an episode a day of "Laverne & Shirley" & so many of the plots have been ripped off by "The Golden Girls" with slight repackaging.

For example =

L & S = "Lightning Man" (actual name of a DC comics Legion of Super-Heroes character) which refers to Carmine in a weird Super Hero outfit for a tv show after getting struck by lightning (& surviving). He goes out on a building ledge that has a tightrope wire to save Squiggy.

TGG = "Mr. Terrific" (actual name of a DC comics Justice Society Of America character) which refers to a guy who also dresses up in a weird Super Hero outfit for a kid show who appears to be threatening to jump out of a building window. He goes off the ledge with Rose (but like above) no one is in any real danger as he is shamelessly revealed to be hooked up to a safety wire.

Another one is L & S. go to a high school reunion where everyone wrongly thinks they are movies stars (& Carmine is a Vegas star) until the truth comes out in front of the ENTIRE class who gets angry for the deceptions.

TGG go to a high school reunion & everyone wrongly thinks they went to the high school until the truth comes out in front of the ENTIRE class who gets angry for the deceptions.

There are too many other plot similarities (as well as characters) to be a coincidence for the two shows.

Actually Golden Girls borrowed from It's a Living (they shared the same writers at one point)

Like the one where Amy befriends a pen pal from prison who gets out on parole and comes looking for her.

And one in which everyone winds up doing a production of Little Red Riding Hood to help out Dot because the regular cast got sick.

Whatever they had a celebrity on there I just cringed. Burt Reynolds. Julio Iglesias. They always came for Sophia. Okay, we buy that.

How these old ladies had all these men after them, even old men want young women.

That these women are supposed to be 55 years old in episode one

[quote]It was Blanche and George’s house and they had 6 children. So I’m assuming the kids had to share rooms. Janet & Rebecca in one room. Matthew, Biff, Doug and Skippy split between the other two?

Blanche says she has four kids, so I assume Biff and Skippy are nicknames for Matthew and Doug

[quote] So I’m assuming the kids had to share rooms. Janet & Rebecca in one room

Rebecca would need all three bedrooms

A weird episode was the one where Rose's younger sister Holly comes to visit. Rose says at the start she doesn't like her. Holly befriends Blanche and Dorothy, and Rose believes that Holly has purposefully left her out of group activities, although that's something that's never proven. And to that extent, Dorothy and Blanche think Holly is a wonderful person and that it's Rose who is overreacting. At the end, Rose confronts Holly, who says she was just jealous of what a good person Rose is and how many friends she had (something that dated back to when they were children) and Rose yells at her and kicks her out of the house. No happy ending and it was very atypical of Rose to do something like that.

And why the fuck was Holly giving Rose directions anyways? Rose was the one who lived in Miami, not Holly.

What about the one where Rose has a heart attack and discover her real father is Chinese?

R118 LOL!!!!

One thing I didn't get was how Sophia made Sicily, based on her descriptions, sound like a shithole country but remembered it with a certain fondness, whereas Shady Pines was depicted as Hell on Earth -- which was probably grossly exaggerated.

R122 I thin in the Golden Palace they showed that Shady Pines has become an ultra luxury retirement residence

Why did fart face to back to Shady Pines in the end instead of to Dorothy's?

The annoying part of the finale was Sophia teaching Rose how to be more like her. So dumb.

R123 -- You are correct. According to the internet, Sophia moved back to Shady Pines after The Golden Palace was cancelled and before she moved in with the Westons on Empty Nest.

It's unknown what happened to Blanche and Rose, but presumably the hotel thing didn't work out.

R124 -- Because Sophia realized that Dorothy needed to be married and knew she wouldn't want to take care of her crotchety old mother.

R126 but several years had passed and it wouldn't have been as bad as moving in with Newlyweds.

What happened to The Golden Palace, do we think?

How come Rue and Bea got no Emmy love after season 4?

R127 -- Dorothy wanted Sophia to move in with her when she visited the Golden Palace, believing that Sophia was working too hard. But Sophia still didn't want to -- she seemed to enjoy working and for many older people, that is the key to vitality.

As for the Emmy's, I don't know. Bea's good friend Angela Lansbury was nominated for Best Actress all 12 years Murder, She Wrote was on and never won.

Was Rose from St. Olaf or Little Falls?

Angela has lost the Emmy 19 times.

I think I figured out something: When GG debuted, Stan and Dorothy had been split for only 2 years by that point. We've never known Sophia to have lived with them during the period when they were married (and it would be unconventional anyways), so Dorothy and Sophia must have started living together by mid 1983 at the earliest. The show debuted in mid 1985, so again, that's 2 years. So Dorothy wasted no time in putting Sophia in the home. Sophia was probably looking forward to spending all that time with Dorothy, and she couldn't even stand living with her for 2 years before shipping her off to Shady Pines. I think that's where Sophia's resentment comes from, more than the actual facility itself.

R131. Have you never watched the pilot??? Sophia didn’t move in with them till Shady Pines burned down ie 1985

R132 -- Yes I have, several times as a matter of fact. That wasn't my point though. My point was: Dorothy and Sophia were living together (on their own) at some point, but that couldn't have lasted for too long before Dorothy shipped Sophia off to Shady Pines. As if she couldn't wait to get rid of her.

And to that extent, I always wondered how Sophia is allowed to live with the girls. She just shows up with no invitation and essentially moves right in. Blanche had accepted Dorothy and Rose's request to live there, but she never approved Sophia. And on that note, it's unclear how Sophia could afford rent since she only had fast food jobs and briefly. Outside of cooking (which the 4 girls shared), she probably never did any chores either.

[My point was: Dorothy and Sophia were living together (on their own) at some point, ]

Where are you getting this?

In both the pilot and the flashback episode “How e met” it’s established that Dorothy and Sophia live separately, the former living at the home/Shady Pines.

What evidence is there that Dot and her mom ever moved on together post-The Stickman dumping her and moving to Maui. ??

I need to stop posting on my phone. Besides the typos above, “former” should be “latter” I.e. Sophia was moving in the home/Shady Pines

R133 The girls slam Dorothy for making Sophia move the living room furniture (I recall her saying later "Oh please! It's wicker.) so she did do some house chores.

She could move around enough at her age to be an activities director at a senior home in another episode.

Sophia was always looking for extra money in many episodes (her get rich quick schemes like bottling the water from their backyard hose for example).

[quote] it's unclear how Sophia could afford rent [at Blanche's house].

Shady Pines was not free. So, either the rent was cheap enough that Sophia could afford it on her Social Security and whatever savings she might have had, or Dorothy was helping with the monthly cost. Either way, that expense presumably just became a payment to Blanche for rent.

Not that the girls ever acted like tenants, or Blanche like a landlord. Even from the very beginning, every household expense was assumed to be shared. For example, why would the cost of replacing the roof or fixing a faulty toilet fall on all four women? Isn't it Blanche's responsibility as the property owner to fix the roof and the plumbing? She's the one who benefits from the value of the property, after all. I generally figure most of the inconsistencies are just poetic license, but this one annoys me - the way Rose, Dorothy and even Sophia expect to pay for things that really only the homeowner would be responsible for.

Sophia's "I just went to the store to buy a nectarine" episode was done to show how much she could do in a day = help out her senior friends who have store problems, go to the boardwalk & manage a senior band & then volunteering at a hospital to round out the day.

R133, Sophia was put in Shady Pines after her stroke, not because she couldn’t get along with Dorothy.

R119, did you know where everything in YOUR city was located before cell phones with GPS?

Holly could've been out shopping and passed a restaurant maybe no one ever went to.

Why was there an exclamation point in the door?

[quote]What about the one where Rose has a heart attack and discover her real father is Chinese?

Sum Ting Wong!

Sophia's ludicrous white wig never looked remotely real. Did it come from the Halloween aisle at Woolworth's?

Did Stan ever fuck Blanche? There was that episode where Dorothy got jealous because Stan and Blanche were spending alot of time together. But I don't think it was ever confirmed that Stan and Blanche were fucking each other.

R143 I've always hated her wig. It looked like she had a shag rug you'd find in a 70s bathroom.

R144 Blanche gave Stan a blowjob after their second date, she rationalised this act of betrayal to Dorothy by explaining it would have been "Un-Southern" not to.

They never dress as if they live in Florida.

Someone mentioned the flashback episodes with newly-created material.

I actually like these. Were there only two ("Mother's Day" and "Valentine's Day")?

I thought it was creative to write the short, mini-stories.

R148 -- "Rites Of Spring" was another one. I'm pretty sure there were others.

r147

You never have lived in South Florida. It does get cool there. In the winters it can get below 40, though it usually doesn't freeze.

If you draw a line from West Palm Beach to Fort Myers that is called the "frost line," which means that area rarely gets frost. The one thing I hated about Florida was the extremes in Jan and Feb, where it's be 40 at night and 85 or 90 during the day.

R150 that doesn't last long, a few weeks, tops. These bitches are dressed like it's winter in Wisconsin in every episode. And don't bother with that "old people get cold" crap, other than Sophia, they're not old enough for that.

I cannot believe you fuckers are speculating on an entirely fictitious show. DL is full of nothing but retards these days. Jesus fuck, The show has no real life implications so stop speculating on where Sophia lived before or after the GG began/ended. You fucks are psychotic.

R152 -- I bet you're a hit at parties.

R152 is Frieda Claxton listing from beyond!

Any episode that includes Stanley Zbornak.

R152 Contrarians love attention.

Kirsten #2.

Kirsten #1 was a cunt (“IM SO ASHMED OF YOU MOTHER!”) but Kirsten #2 was a whiny bitch.

Women get colder than men. I don’t know about you all, but the woman in our offices are always cold.

Do you think Blanche ever regretted giving up her tit job to pay for that old woman's house?

Their many kids, often played by different actors, and with anachronistic ages.

Flashbacks show Dorothy as a full grown woman in the 1940s, but that one Beatlemania episode she claims to have been a big Beatles fan with crushes on them all in their heyday. Really? As a middle-aged mother in the 60s?

R161, she talks about having children in that episode, so she was a mother and that she didn’t go see the Beatles because one of the kids was sick.

R161, hmmm. A 40-year-old with a crush on a bunch of 20-year-old pop stars. If only there had been a DL in 1964, Dorothy would have been right at home.

[quote] Any episode that includes Stanley Zbornak.

Actually, the Stanley episodes were among my favorites. He was funny, IMO. He and Dorothy were believable as a divorced couple who got married as teenagers only because the girl got pregnant.

Blanche Devereaux's bedroom was truly hideous. Agree with the poster above.

[quote]The Dorothy/Sophia characters should have been Jewish, not Italian.

[quote]I suppose that would have alienated viewers in middle America, but not only were Estelle and Bea actually Jewish, so were Herb Edelman and Bill Dana (who played Sophia's bother).

Except the characters were based on Susan Harris’s NY Italian neighbors, dear.

Then maybe Kaye Ballard should have played Dorothy, R166.

r148 I liked those but the one at the beginning of season 3 drives me crazy because it basically teases how great a dance marathon episode would have been. I’ll never understand why they would take an idea so ripe with comedic possibilities like that and decide to seclude it to one random clip. If it had been a full episode I think it could have been as memorable as the murder mystery weekend.

That it stopped being made.

R152, you sound nice.

Welcome.

That anyone who wasn't a bitter old woman would find them entertaining.

I hated how the were always calling each other girls. Do you see Molly Ringwald here?

[quote]He and Dorothy were believable as a divorced couple who got married as teenagers only because the girl got pregnant.

Oh please! That whole scenario is ludicrously ridiculous

R168. Isn’t the dance marathon used in TWO clip shows?

I could swear there are a long and a short version of it.

Uncle Angelo

R158 -- So true. Every woman in my office runs the heater on year round. I don't understand it. AT ALL.

"Women get colder than men."

That's true, but not sweater and boots in Miami cold, come on, that was INSANE.

r166 and?

R174 I thought so too.

[quote]I hated how the were always calling each other girls.

Did you not notice the title of the show?

I have to say that it's true women do get more colder than men! Before I was let go from my job for my 'condition' (I am lactose intolerant and have undiagnose diverticulatis) I was always freezing at work! I would complain to the woman who was head of HR (I am currently in the process of legal procedings for unfair firing so I can't say her name, so let's just call her Lachelle!) and she wouldn't listen to me, I tried to go all the way to the top, but I was just told to 'put a sweater! Classic men! LOL! Anyways, because of my health situation I spent a lot of time in the ladies' lounge! LOL! But after a while, during what I like to call 'downtime', it would get chilly in their. Ultimately, I wound up bringing a space heater, which I would have to carry with me into the stall and plug into the sink. Some of the bitchier women in my office started to complain, saying 'it already smells like corpse in their, the heat just makes it worse.' So much for 'sisterhood!' LOL!

Did Blanche ever do a MMF double vag penetration hookup?

I'm bi and have done a few. It's hawt. NO CONDOMS

r180

Obviously you never watched the show if you missed that reference.

R181, if you had to do any correspondence for your job, I can virtually guarantee you were not fired due to your health issues.

Holy fuck!

r181 is obviously not a parody post, but it certainly could be! Honey -- how did you miss out on fibromyalgia?

I have the entire series on DVD and I was just watching the "One for the Money" episode (SSN 3, ep. 2).

It's a fake "flashbacks" episode and it features the "Dance Marathon" skit.

My favorite line is Blanche commenting on her "endurance", trying to one-up Dorothy, and Dorothy's "We're not dancing on our backs" line.

This line HAD to be written by a gay guy.

The original airdate was September of 1987. Christ, so long ago...32 years...

Hallmark Channel cut the scene where Dorothy confessed that she let Jean eat her out when they were in college.

R181 sorry you lost you job. I'm going to knit you a fanny warmer!

Blanche's granddaughter and grandson in the early seasons are much too old

That wasn't her granddaughter, it was her niece, the ugly-duckling slut.

The only granddaughter of Blanche's we saw was baby Oreo.

My mother would never watch the show...she thought the ladies were loose and had potty mouths. How did I survive?

You forgot about Melissa R190. The little girl that Blanche tried to get into the Little Miss Miami pageant. Melissa was Janet's daughter.

And Blanche's grandson in the first season is only too old because they de-aged the girls. That kid was 15/16 tops in that episode. Let's assume that Janet was 20 when she had him and Blanche was 20 when she had Janet. That would put Blanche at about 56 in season 1.

Based on the Mother's Day episode Blanche was 17 in 1949. So I think we can put Blanche's retconned birth year at 1932. But that would screw up the fact that Blanche was younger than Rose and Dorothy who were both 60 in 1992.

***And for the record, I'm embarrassed that I just typed all that, but I'm rewatching the show right now and all of this info is still fresh.

R192 after that yenkee trash Melissa failed to win Little Miss Miami, Blanche said she was no relation of hers c

They should have made Frieda Claxton a recurring character instead of killing her off and let her get all the nasty lines that were out of character for the main cast.

The thread is about things that annoy you. But whole episodes of GG suck. the Rita Moreno, and the homeless shelter episodes are horrendous!

Whole seasons suck. 1 to 4 were mediocre. Season 5 was the best. 6 and 7 were average to bad.

R196 is one of the worst opinions I’ve ever read on DL.

R197 I have all 7 seasons on DVD. 1 to 4 get crickets or eye rolls from me. Terrible writing. They are just so bad. Like discovering you have aids, syphillis and crabs bad! Season 5 was the best because they got new writers. They still had the best director ever in Terry Hughes. He left at end of season 5 and the last two seasons still had some good laughs but horrid wretched directors where the girls would be looking at the camera bad. Which is really fucking bad. There were a few gems in season 1 to 4 but not many.

Season 1-4 was still a mix of comedy and trying to deal with legitimate issues surrounding women and aging in a funny way. I do think they went to the family member visits, drama from the past needs to be worked out well too many times. All four ladies had sisters they couldn't stand as a recurring theme.

Seasons 6 and 7, which I liked, the show went full on sitcom with more outrageous plots and goofy storylines.

If there is a flaw in the show, it's the lack of continuity between episodes and between seasons and maybe the lack of a handful of solid recurring characters outside of Stan and Miles.

r196 needs to get eaten out by Jean.

r192 is as gay as a picnic basket.

r198 Yes, season 5 was definitely TGG on top of its game. Dorothy's two-episode battle with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome was brilliant enough, but the riveting climax where she happens to be eating at the same restaurant as the pompous doctor who misdiagnosed her (even though she had gone to visit him in another part of the country), and delivered an epic monologue where her eyes remained firmly on the doctor she was bitching out and not on the cue cards off-camera? It was, in a word, breathtaking.

Geraldine Fitzgerald asking Sophia to hold her hand while she extinguishes life from her pitiful old soul was comedy firing on all cylinders.

I hear the teen pregnancy episode is a staple of every Sitcom Writing 101 class! Introducing a character the audience has no familiarity with for the sole purpose of shoehorning in a serious social issue!

ROSE MIGHT HAVE FUCKING AIDS!

The married man that Dorothy was molesting in one of the worst episodes of season 1 is back to shit in the punch bowl one more time!

And after she's done sucking him dry, she does the same to her bank account when she suddenly develops an intense gambling addiction! Must be a residual symptom of CFS.

Golden Girls, season 5: the pinnacle of sitcom--nay--the pinnacle of television!

So droll, you cock-eating maggot. It is not the content that matters but who are the writers and who is the director. They are what make any series or film.

R198 must be Linda Bloodsworth Thomason. The prostitution episode, Rose dates a midget, Grab That Dough, Fidel Santiago. Yeah, you're right, nothing to see here.

[quote]It is not the content that matters

You MUST be trolling. So it doesn't matter if the content is a pile of hot shit, as long as you like the people who laid it? HUH?

All you cunts need to choke and die on a horse cock.

I hated where the were always saying, 'Isn't it golden'?

I'm glad they cut those parts out in syndication.

That they didn't do a Samantha/Serena thing for Bea.

That they didn't stick with the original casting and have Betty play Blanche and Rue play Rose.

It was a straight-up hate crime that Rose dragged Jean to the Cry Me a River matinée at the Rialto when Jean was clearly just trying to score some cervix. Seriously, Terms of Endearment and Love Story? That’s like four hours or chick flicks. Rose could at least thrown in a few consolation bean flicks.

"I go to the symmetry on Mother's Day."

R211 On that note, Bea’s weird pronunciations of random words came across as very haughty. Isn’t there an episode where she pronounces advertisements as “adverdizments?”

That headlock that Dorothy had Rose in in the pilot episode in Blanche's bedroom which Blanche interpreted as an expression of affection.

I'm annoyed that goody-two-shoes Hallmark Channel cut the scene where Rose and Jean scissored in Rose's bedroom.

R212 No doubt. Doesn't that just explode your tampon, Lucy!

R202 I'm slipping my pants off for you!

R202 I'm slipping my pants off for you!

R212, one that always annoyed me was the way Bea said goverNment when Sophia was getting all those social security checks.

I’m annoyed when stations cut out the airplane in the opening credits.

I purchased the DVD box set for my 72 year old mother with all the episodes uncut, but she still watches the show when it comes on regular cable all cut up with scenes missing and commercial breaks. I don't get it at all. The shows on DVD and Hulu have a 25 minute running time, so that means they are cutting out about 5 minutes of content on Hallmark and other channels.

I could never stand the way Dorothy said Marg-YOUR-eet, when everyone else proncounced it, Marguerite...

[quote]—It's CEMETARY!

Actually, it's CEMETERY, dear.

The fifth season DVD release was criticized for presenting the edited cuts of the show used for syndication rather than the original cuts for at least some of the episodes.

Without taped copies of the original recordings in my possession, I'm unable to confirm this, but reports from those who do have the original recordings and a statement from Buena Vista blaming damages to the master copies for the use of syndicated cuts seem to indicate the veracity of this complaint.

The cuts were extremely minimal, but annoying nonetheless. So has it happened again for The Complete Sixth Season? Again, without the original recordings, I can't be sure.

The runtimes for these episodes are a bit shorter than the ones we have documented for the first four seasons and even sometimes a bit shorter than those in Season Five. However, I haven't yet heard complaints from those same sources. I can say that there were no jarring cuts that stood out as possible editing.

It may very well be that the network ordered shorter episodes as the series moved into its sixth season.

I never got the whole "Lucy" episode, where was Lucy O'Ball?

That Blanche could have been stupid enough to think her bosom looked convincing with that inflatible bra

[quote]The shows on DVD and Hulu have a 25 minute running time, so that means they are cutting out about 5 minutes of content on Hallmark and other channels.

Yeah, what a pity to have to lose 5 minutes of content consisting of the same jokes repeated again and again: Blanche is a slut, Rose is naive etc. We get it, we get it.

Blasphemy!!

I have the shooting script for episode 1x15 (A Little Romance) and it says in the taping schedule that lunch on Wednesday would be from 1-2:15. Are lunch breaks on television sets always that long? Did they all go to Golden Corral or what?

Speaking of which, I read once that Mrs. Susan "I was too tired to make a better backdoor pilot for Rita Moreno" Harris was pissed when she lost the Outstanding Comedy Writing Emmy to Barry Fanaro and Mort Nathan. She sounds high-maintenance.

Do you think Susan Harris did more harm than help with the Chronic Fatigue episodes? By having Dorothy go back to normal and have no further issues kinda trivialised the condition, no?

Doorbell rings: "Hi, it's me Stan....". ...every f**king time.

What hidden message was their front door trying to tell us?

One thing I always noticed was the GG writers got a lot of “inspiration” from Mama’s Family episodes. The show’s did a lot of similar stories.

I also wonder why GG was videotaped instead of filmed.

That Rose's offer of cunnilingus killed old Freida Claxton!

I always wondered about the finances. Did they pool their money for groceries and stuff like toilet paper? How many bathrooms were there, and who cleaned up? Which one was the lazy slob who left her hair in the drain? Why did they never cook or do chores?

R234 -- You can see Sophia cooking on many occasions. All the others as well, but mostly Sophia.

They cooked a lot, especially old maranara face. Rose seems like she would be a good home keeper. Dorothy probably drew up a cleaning rota.

They were shown to shop for groceries together at least twice.

The fact that Angela went back to Sicily, became FTM; returned to Miami, and Angelo emerged without it being acknowledged.

[quote]especially old maranara face.

Oh-a dear-a!

R209: Then it becomes what Bea Arthur feared, Maude Findley moves in with Vivian Cavanaugh Harmon and Sue Ann Nivens.

Dorothy and Stan's daughter Kate showed up early in S1, getting married to a doctor. Kate (and the actress who plays her in a later episode, along with a different Dr. Dennis), appear to be about 30. But if Stan and Dorothy have been divorced for about 2 years in S1, after being married for 38 years (a number said again and again), wouldn't Kate be pushing 40?

This is what happened R240.

Yes, Dorothy and Stan got married because she was pregnant. What we didn’t know is that child died at about 4 months old from SIDS. Dorothy didn’t get pregnant again until about 8 years later and she gave birth to Kate, then 8 years after that she gave birth to Michael. It was during this time, between the dead baby and Kate, that Dorothy went to college, etc.

In those days people just didn’t talk about dead babies, they got over it and moved on which is why it was never mentioned on the show.

R241 Oh fuck, it’s you again.

Pack it up, everybody.

[quote]They were shown to shop for groceries together at least twice.

Not to mention condoms.

[quote] I have the shooting script for episode 1x15 (A Little Romance) and it says in the taping schedule that lunch on Wednesday would be from 1-2:15. Are lunch breaks on television sets always that long?

I'm guessing a lot of crew members are union members and get contractual breaks of a certain duration.

[quote] Rose seems like she would be a good home keeper.

Rose seems like she'd be the worst cook, cooking up some bland foods, etc.

R244, you don't like pigs in flarhüvengüven?

That's something that annoyed me, all the stupid St Olaf words Rose sounded like she was making up, especially for food.

r225

That was an advertisement for their new show with Mayim Bialik, you know Bosom.

r229

Seeing it a fake condition, no.

The Lucy show was stupid. Lucy was over 18 so she could do what the hell she liked. Who were the Golden Girls to interfere. A bunch of nosy interfering busybodies if you ask me.

Care for some Genurkenflurgen cake R246?

I hate how some jokes were just beaten to death. Every episode had something like this:

Blanche: "Her flight couldn't land in Miami because of the storm so it landed in Atlanta."

Rose: "Atlanta, Georgia?"

Dorothy: "No Rose, Atlanta, Iceland. Of course Atlanta Georgia!!!!"

How much fucking mileage did they expect to get with that? At least with the stereotypes (Blanche is a whore, Rose is dumb, etc) there were lots of different things they could do with that for laughs, but this was literally the same joke over and over and over and it wasn't funny to begin with.

[quote]Rose is dumb, etc

Rose is not dumb. She’s incredibly naive, but not dumb.

I’m just annoyed at those nitpicking every effing details of the show.

That GOLDEN GIRLS is the sequel to SEX AND THE CITY.

254 -- Golden Girls predates Sex and The City by years. Who are you, Scott Keith?

[quote]Do you think Susan Harris did more harm than help with the Chronic Fatigue episodes? By having Dorothy go back to normal and have no further issues kinda trivialised the condition, no?

It was the fibromyalgia of its day.

He means the idea our 4 Golden Girls are the SATC tarts grown up and well, erm, older.

[quote]The Lucy show was stupid.

Oh -- you thought so too?

r249

Spoken like Millie's mother

R255 Blanche: Samantha, Dorothy: Miranda, Rose: Charlotte, Dreyfus: Carrie.

R251 agreed. That is why the first 4 seasons mostly sucked. Terrible writing. Terrible jokes. Ma, what are you doing up? Someone left the lock off my cage. Horrible horrible writing.

I watched "The Golden Girls" out of order, in piecemeal fashion. Two different channels were broadcasting re-runs at all different times of the day, it seemed.

One episode I liked was when the Girls ended up in community theater. Dorothy ends up playing the sheriff. That's from Season 2, maybe an anomaly. There was also an episode in Season 3 involving Laszlo the sculptor that was was funny as well. Both of these episodes involve a man who is seeing all 3 women secretly.

R262 Hot. Bea's wang was known to be very large. Definitely see a bulge in that shot. Yikes. My spanks are hurting my lady boner. The episode where Rose pegged Blanche's fruity brother's rectum was quite funny.

R262 Do you have a subscription to People magazine??

I think the writers had an idea that people liked the running gags and waited for them which is why they were repeated. The ones about how Sophie was out of her room didn't annoy me and I liked the line about how she was sleeping so well she thought to try it in the sink.

When Dorothy bit Rose's head off for asking "Hollywood California??"

"No Rose, Hollywood on the planet Romulak!!!!"

Since Hollywood, FL was not that far away.

r262=Phyllis Hammerow, Miami's answer to Meryl Streep

Sonny Bono and Lyle Waggoner in the dream episode.

Miles' witness protection backstory, which seemed like something out of "Soap" and wasn't funny.

Ron Hunter, my old boyfriend from NYU in the late 60s, playing Dr. Harris in the Heart Attack episode from 1986.

I'm annoyed that we never got to see Rose's husband Charlie Nylund. We got to see all the other husbands: Stanley Zbornak, George Devereaux, and Salvadore Petrillo.

I'm pissed that we never got to see Charlie "Horse Hung" Nylund.

What's most annoying are the GG obsessives on here.

[quote]Blanche: Samantha, Dorothy: Miranda, Rose: Charlotte, Dreyfus: Carrie.

Blance: Blair, Dorothy: Jo, Rose: Tootie; Sophia: Natalie

Are you a dude or a lady, R269

Dorothy: No, Rose I'm upset because they haven't rerun the "Facts of Life Goes To Australia."

Rose: What a golden thought Dorothy

I LOVE that joke R274 in an otherwise shitty episode. I also love The Facts of Life Down Under.

Help me with the lineup.

Was it Facts of Life @ 8, 227 @ 8:30, GG @9:00, and Amen @ 9:30?

"Rose: What a golden thought Dorothy"

This line is never spoken by Rose. She doesn't respond at all.

I think R274 was making a joke, R277, referencing an earlier joke in this thread made by R207.

[273] dude

R261 But the last three seasons were no different.

R279 but Ron Hunter had children!?!

When Rose would say stupid things like she didn't believe in psychologists. She works with them.

r280 Fuck u turd. The last three seasons never had those kinds of horrible set ups on every fucking episode.

Remember the episode where they guy was originally a girl and Sophia says "Just like you Dorothy, except backwards."

Gathering info for your thesis, OP?

I do love the fact that this thread, like pretty much any thread on the GG, ultimately turned morphed into the 'Golden Girls Inconsistencies' thread...

R257, thank you for clarifying the intent of my response. Yes, I meant we can find the four GOLDEN GIRLS characters' younger counterparts on SEX AND THE CITY.

Dorothy would have worn this dress -- it's her style.

But Blanche? Never.

It's totally unbelievable and always bothered me.

What about when Rose said, "Fuck you Blanche, BAD people give good people, like me AIDS; that's why I got it from Coco."

And Dorothy says, "Ma, whatever did you do with his body?"

that they fell in love with people but they were never seen again

examples: Sophia and Caesar Romero, Rose and the deli guy etc

The fact any of them got dates. None of them would've had suitor, possibly Blanche but even then it would've been iffy. I work at a very exclusive club with lots of older 50+ men and not one of them has a 50+ wife or girlfriend.

Any that do get remarried marry a 20 or 30 something and start a second family.

I love you r12.

(I also love GG)

R288, me, too. But, then again, the clothes all of them wore in the first season were outlandish, especially the voluminous dresses with the waistline around the knees. I remember 1985 pretty well. That was not a common look at the time, not even for middle-aged women trying to avoid the fitted waists that were in style in the early/mid '80s.

They got much better costumes after S1 except for poor Dorothy, who looked like she was in a monk's habit made of potato sacks most of the time ... but I think that was Bea's preference. Rose was dowdy, but at least she dressed like a normal woman of her age. Dorothy just looked weird. Imagine being a student and confronting that gigantic mass of flapping fabric at 8 a.m.

[281] Yeah, guess he found time to start a family when he stopped cruising johns and going to the baths.

Not sure if you cunts get this youtube channel in your country but this has all seasons of GGs.

R293 the show is not real, delusional cunt. Bea was not a real teacher.

r296

But many marines LEARNED quite a deal from Miss Arthur

r293 I think all the frustration Bea caused the crew was taken out on her wardrobe. There's no explaining that wedding gown in the finale.

That gown had like 50 toilet paper rolls on it. Even for the 90s that was tacky.

Did anyone say "gay men who won't shut up about 'The Golden Girls'"? I'm not going through 299 replies to find out.

I never watched it. Now because of DL I want to.

I hate it when a terrible episode has one or two really funny moments, so if you want to rewatch those moments you have to endure the rest of that shitty episode. For instance I remember the beginning of the "Rose eats life" episode being pretty funny but the rest is so awful and nonsensical. Why exactly was she so lonely and bored when she moved out? WHERE WERE THE FRIENDS AND PARTIES THAT CAUSED HER TO MOVE OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE?!!!

This has probably been mentioned a million times already, but the lack of continuity is annoying.

And why the heck were Stan and Dorothy always rekindling their marital relationship? I feel like there were three or more episodes during the course of the series when the two of them had slept together, or were getting remarried or were dating blah blah blah and then they realize at the end of the episode that they're better off as friends. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Why would 90 year old Sophia Petrillo leave her happily married daughter and son-in-law to go open a hotel with her daughter's former room-mates. The premise to Golden Palace made no sense.

r302

she told her new roomamtes that she didn't hang out with that crowd anymore but didn't explain why... I'm guessing they were into drugs and orgies

r305

Because she was old and couldn't keep up.

r303

It makes sense, Stan would run to Dorothy after his marriages failed (how many did he have) and Dorothy took him in for awhile, because she had low self-esteem.

[quote]Women get colder than men.

More draft holes.

R307 she is a fictional character, stupid cunt. Dorothy has no self esteem just a script.

R309 You're the dumb one here

if you think you have to point that out to begin with.

Trying to psycho analyse a fictional dead character from 40 years ago is the definition of a stupid cunt.

So when you were in high school and had to read Silas Marner or another book and do a report, you said, "It's just made up."

r309

Someone could write a doctoral dissertation on DL's GG obsession.

R313 It would have to be a straight person or Dorothy Zbornak herself.

r311 is insufferable AND bad at math.

Fuck u, cunt.

Who is this dribbling bitch shitting in the thread and why do they refuse to type the two extra letters in 'you?'

I can’t watch The Golden Girls, it brings back too many painful memories. Most of my friends who died in the 80’s-90’s loved this show. I can’t change the channel quick enough when it comes on.

R318 Watching the GG's was definitely a co-factor for catching the aids.

When Sophia uses the "n-word" and thinks it's OK because she's had an affair with an Arab in Sicily

I'm sorry R318

I hate it when they only thanked the person who brought the biggest gift for being a friend.

R319, reading comprehension is your friend. Your sarcastic remark was imbecilic, I expressed why it’s difficult for me to watch it because I don’t want to relive the loss. Why don’t you fall on a glass table or go take a leisure learning class, either choice works for me.

R323 Fuck u, cunt. Saying GG causes the aids is ridiculous.

Oh, r324. Now you’re just being belligerently (Google the word. You know how to Google, right?) ignorant. Here’s a third option, walk into traffic and remove yourself from the food chain. No plant or animal shoould be sacrificed to keep you alive. Ta-ta.

Is the "Fuck u" loon exclusive to this thread? I don't see him anywhere else.

Fuck both your cunts with a ten foot sword.

fuck you all for being a friend

That first season seemed a bit repetitive. Some family member/old friend comes for a visit and the girls have to react to it or some ancient problem with a sister or a child. Wash, rinse, repeat.

In of the earlier episodes, maybe even the first one, Dorothy is placing her items on the conveyor belt at the grocery store and she is buying a fuck ton of cheese - implausibly huge wedge after wedge of it

They're not girls and they're not made of gold, either.

Somebody was always threatening to get married and then cancelled the wedding at the last minute.

In season one when Rose's blind sister comes to visit, her sister begs Rose to come home and take care of her, but Rose declines. What a cunt! How do you refuse to take care of your newly blind, single and childless sister so you can stay in Miami with your friends?!??!!!!

I just realized in the episode where the man dies in Rose’s bed, when Rose mentions him lying about not being married, Blanche has a line that goes something like, “Oh, I hate that! Don’t they know we’ll sleep with them them anyway?” But in that awful episode with Dorothy and the married coach, they make a big fuss over the fact that Blanche has never slept with a married man. And they’re only a few episodes apart!

Just watched the Mickey Rooney episode on Hallmark and it’s not as bad as I remember but it’s still a mess. I can’t think of any other episode that was split in half the way that one was, with the diary plot in the first half and the Rocco plot in the second. Oddly enough that made it feel less cohesive than the usual formula (a central A-plot throughout the episode with a short, weak B-plot spliced throughout).

Also the diary storyline was silly. If they continued reading the diary, wouldn’t there have been more clues in there that she was speaking of real pigs?

r330

That IS stupid, unlike my show

[quote] Things that annoy you about the Golden Girls

That they inspire such tedious, obsessive-compulsive trolls.

If Rose, Blanche and Dorothy were all alive today they'd be all be pushing 90. They'd probably all have neighboring rooms at Shady Pines or would've reverted back to roommates in Blanche's house after Sophia and Dorothy's husband both died.

That the Girls can afford a full-time housekeeper (first Coco, then Marg-ya-rite), endless beaded ball gowns and charity galas, spur of the moment trips to New York and sometimes Europe (for Ma), yet they "can barely afford a patch job" when the roof needs fixing.

Yes, that was very unrealistic, R338.

The fact that Dorothy's kids and Gloria didn't show up at her wedding in the finale or that Blanche's brother or other sister didn't go to Big Daddy's funeral. Also annoying was that Kirsten only showed up when her mother had a heart attack when it should've been all of Rose's children and Miles. I guess they didn't want to overcrowd the set and take attention away from the 3 main characters, but it would've been more realistic.

On an unrelated note, the scene of Rose having a posthumous birthday for Charlie in the kitchen of her old house before telling him she's moving to Miami to start a new life always makes me tear up.

[quote]On an unrelated note, the scene of Rose having a posthumous birthday for Charlie in the kitchen of her old house before telling him she's moving to Miami to start a new life always makes me tear up.

Betty was awesome in that scene. I always thought it was weird that they put it right in the middle of the episode, though. Seemed like it should have been saved for closer to the end.

r338

Estrogen and Maalox ain't free you know

You just MIGHT have HIV, Rose. Now, let's get back to planning Dorothy's wetlands party. Their reaction to Rose's letter is so nonchalant.

The show takes place in Miami so why are these old broads always wearing log sleeves and dressed in layers ?

Could it be to hide their aging saggy arms and skin in general ..... ?

Even in the episode where it's suppose to be in the middle of a heat wave and their central air system is broken.

Dorothy grew up in Brooklyn and yet her high school reunion is held in Miami while her old h.s. friend Trudy McMahon (Anne Francis) is visiting.

The show is very gay affirming and yet they threw that faggy houseboy Coco off after the first episode.

R344's pic annoys me. Why did they move the couch out of its normal spot. And to block the hallway of all places.

How Dorothy, Blanche and Rose over-pronounce the letter "H" in words like "white" e.g. "So what if Michael is a skinny wHHHite boy?"

And let's now got started on Dorothy and Marg-yu-rite.

May your marinara sauce never cling to your pasta R43.

What about goverNment, R348?

That Christmas episode where NO ONE went home and NO family members visited.

I'm annoyed that we never found out who Mr. September was in "The Men of Blanche's Boudoir" calendar. Apparently, he was hung like a horse! Blanche was barely able to walk in October.

Pretty sure it was Mel Bushman, R352, because why else would Blanche keep going back to him...

"Bushman?" I never had the pleasure.

Good one R350 though I forget the context of that one (remind me?)

And of course, that reminds me of Dorothy correcting Rose's resume with a pencil(!) (when was she going to redo it before her early morning interview??) ...... "Now looking for work in the private, secteeerrrrrRRRRRR!"

I think it happens in two episodes but the one I remember was when Sophia was getting checks erroneously from the government. It was the same episode Blanche had rented a car and was pretending to sell it to meet men.

They (at least Dorothy) also over pronounce the "euww" sound, as in....

Dr. Jonathan "Nyeww-man"

Whose salad dressing would you rather have, yours or Paul Nyewww-man's.

Rose's stupidity was similar to Joey Tribbiani's stupidity.

Characters who start out as dense become full blown retarded by the end of their series run.

[quote]Characters who start out as dense become full blown retarded by the end of their series run.

I'm glad that didn't happen to me!

There's an episode where Sophia is eating peanuts or something while telling one of her "picture it" stories. It's annoying AF because of the constant pausing to eat those damn peanuts out of her hand - why the fuck did they have her do that?

She probably had her lines written on them, R361

[quote]There's an episode where Sophia is eating peanuts or something while telling one of her "picture it" stories. It's annoying AF because of the constant pausing to eat those damn peanuts out of her hand - why the fuck did they have her do that?

Are you sure it wasn't raisins while she was telling the origin story of "linguini with green ear salve" AKA Pesto?

[quote]Characters who start out as dense become full blown retarded by the end of their series run.

That's always risky.

[quote]Characters who start out as dense become full blown retarded by the end of their series run.

There's retarded and illogical, learn the difference

In the Moonlight Madness episode, Bea pronounces vasectomy in the most theatrical way possible. “What did you win this time, a VAH-SEK-TOMY?” Really weird word to apply one of her Bea-isms to.

Rue's gasping between every sentence.

I can’t believe Hallmark cuts the “Miami is nice, so I’ll say it thrice” scene out of the episode. It’s not the funniest episode outside of that scene (none of the Big Daddy episodes were great), so why make it even worse?! And it makes a subsequent “Thrice” joke in a later moment seem totally random and nonsensical.

Usually they’re pretty good with deciding on cut content. In the Frieda Claxton episode they cut out a St. Olaf story, which wasn’t anything too special, from what I remember.

I’m still waiting for them to permanently cut 30 minutes out of Rita’s episode.

The absence of feral animals and any decay in their home.

Rose making delicious cookies that smell terrible. She's clearly holding an empty plate and she and the others are miming (rather poorly) eating them. Couldn't they have just used real cookies?

R370 I think whenever they’d watch TV it was usually invisible as well. Witt-Thomas-Harris was cheap as HELL.

r370

I've wondered about that as well... it's like the aired the rehearsal that had no props

In one of the best episodes, "The Case of the Libertine Belle," Dorothy sticks a mirror under Kendall's nose to see if he's breathing. Rose had put defogger on it and that convinces them that he's dead and it appears that Blanche killed him. Wouldn't it have made more sense to have Rose take his pulse and pronounce that there was none present? She had, after all, volunteered at the hospital. Or even have Dorothy in on it too. This is an episode with a lot of great lines, but that plot hole and its readily apparent fix has always irked me.

Disney never cared about continuity before or after the show. Star Wars is proof of that.

R373 I assumed for a long time that the mirror thing was something people actually did that I was just never aware of. Now that I know it’s as weird as it actually seems, it takes me out of the episode every time.

R375 Considering there was only one good season of the Golden Girls (season 5), that is the saddest thing I have ever read. Season 7 was the absolute worst in terms of acting, direction, and writing. Its cunt had seen its best days by that point.

[quote] Things that annoy you about the Golden Girls

that they existed

r375 The mirror test is a real thing.

In the episode where Sophia has pneumonia, the doctors are flippant about updating Dorothy on her condition until Stan flips out and DEMANDS that they report back once an hour. The doctor immediately submits to him and agrees to change his protocol just because Stan raised his voice. Like any doctor would give a flying fuck about this bald bum throwing a hissy fit in the waiting room!

I'm annoyed that these damn threads ran longer than the series.

The way Bea said the name Marguerite

With 4 women in the house , why were There no " I just missed my period. " jokes ?

There was, r382. And Blanche stupidly thought she was pregnant.

Let's face it: All four characters were limited. I grew tired of the predictability: Blanche is a slut, Rose is stupid, Sophia is just a one-liner machine wearing a $2 white wig from Woolworth's and not even human . . .

r384 is Barbara Thorndyke

R385 that is the best insult you can come up with you anal wart on the asshole of mankind.

R386 it was actually hilarious, you lunatic

The Barbara Thorndyke reference was deliberate, if that makes it any more or less hilarious.

Bea Arthur's huge feet in those felt(?) boots she always wore, or so I recall. When she did a one-woman show on Broadway, you could see them bare and they were even larger, but she did tell a funny Mae West story.

The b-roll shot of a car pulling into the driveway at 80 miles an hour with the rear tires practically becoming airborne upon breaking. WTF

[quote]Things that annoy you about the Golden Girls

Their geriatric fans. Exasperating!

The current event jokes.

In the B-roll footage of Rose barrelling into the driveway and skidding to a stop, there's no walkway from the driveway to the front door. You would have walk across the grass. Stoopid.

And the porch, which is visible in the exterior shots, doesn't look anything like the porch that they shot scenes on!!!! Hello? Art Department? Continuity!