I was watching The Day of the Locust tonight and was reminded of how cute he was in his youth. Is it actually true that he claimed to be an ex-homosexual on The David Susskind Show in the '80s? There are spurious references to it online and it was recently on his Wiki, but was deleted as the sources are not great. There is apparently a YouTube video of it, but the video is marked private and not viewable. Has his PR team scrubbed the internet clean of this? I find it very strange for someone to have allegedly claimed something like this on television and there to be no absolutely no evidence of it online.
Did William Atherton actually claim to be an ex-gay?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 21, 2019 2:54 PM |
Am pretty sure he once announced gay conversion therapy and / or "Aesthetic Realism" worked for him - around the time of "The Sugarland Express?"
by Anonymous | reply 1 | August 21, 2019 5:04 AM |
OP, I've always been fascinated by this too. Intrigued about what other DLers can uncover...
by Anonymous | reply 2 | August 21, 2019 5:09 AM |
OP, do you seriously think an actor who hasn't been famous since the mid 70s has a "PR team"?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | August 21, 2019 5:27 AM |
Maybe not a PR team R3, but he surely has a PR person—he's still a working actor and I'm sure would have someone hired to keep this out of the public if he so wished.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | August 21, 2019 5:30 AM |
R4 - an older actor like that would not be represented by a PR person. It’s way too expensive to keep somebody on a monthly retainer.
But if there was a single video or photograph someone wanted to keep off the Internet, there are companies that you can pay on a monthly basis. Some program just scours the Internet and whenever the offending media is posted, it gets repeatedly flagged and the hosting site is slammed with cease and desist orders.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | August 21, 2019 5:33 AM |
The Susskind episode was called "We Used to Be Gay" and aired May 8, 1983. It featured Atherton and other "former homosexuals" discussing Eli Siegel's "aesthetic realism" philosophy, which claimed homosexuality was a way of seeing the world that could be studied and changed. The video is on this website, but you have to register (and possibly pay) to see the footage). If you are really interested, google "Eli Siegel" and "aesthetic realism". It's all very depressing.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | August 21, 2019 5:41 AM |
It costs $100 for a year membership to view lo-res videos on Historic Films, R6. I'm wondering if this was actually William Atherton, the actor, or possibly another William Atherton? It can't be a wildly common name, but there are undoubtedly other William Athertons. The thing that makes me wonder is the fact that there are no screencaps, no quotes, no published material referencing the segment in relation to him specifically. It's very strange.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | August 21, 2019 6:39 AM |
It's him.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | August 21, 2019 6:43 AM |
I'm curious as to how his supposed conversion has held up all these years later, and whether he even believes it worked anymore. IMDb mentions he married a woman in 1980, but his Wiki doesn't say anything of the sort. It's really too bad if he is that deeply in denial. He was handsome in his youth and could have had some nice boy love before settling down with a gentleman, but alas.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | August 21, 2019 7:02 AM |
$100 to view videos is exorbitant. I don't think William Atherton is a common name for an actor. You can find many references to his association with Aesthetic Realism through the 70s.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | August 21, 2019 7:04 AM |
From "Celluloid Activist: The Life and Times of Vito Russo" (p. 142). Atherton telling people, including a dubious Vito, at the 1976 Theatre World Awards that Aesthetic Realism had cured him of homosexuality.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | August 21, 2019 7:30 AM |
God, how depressing. I too thought he was boyishly handsome in his youth; despite how revolting his character in Day of the Locust was, he was still adorable in it. Here's a picture of him with his wife in 2010. She appears mentally checked out, and possibly suffering from an eating disorder.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | August 21, 2019 7:41 AM |
At this point, he's probably just cut his losses when it comes to his sexuality. He's been married so long and has spent a considerable amount of his life in denial, so I doubt he'll ever formally come out. He'll ostensibly live out his days in his house in LA with his frau, occasionally jacking it to gay porn and maybe cruising in public bathrooms. That being said, Ed Smart (Mormon kidnapee Elizabeth's dad) just came out in his sixties, so I suppose there's hope for anyone. To live in denial like that is a sad life.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | August 21, 2019 7:45 AM |
I don't think he and his wife ever had kids, but when they got married in 1980 Vito Russo said Atherton would name his first child "Living Proof".
by Anonymous | reply 15 | August 21, 2019 7:51 AM |
I wish I had known this in the early 90s. I could have asked him right after i pulled my dick out of his mouth. (True story).
by Anonymous | reply 16 | August 21, 2019 8:19 AM |
He was once very close to Liza.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | August 21, 2019 8:22 AM |
We are going to need more details than that, R9
by Anonymous | reply 18 | August 21, 2019 8:28 AM |
I meant R16, damnit
by Anonymous | reply 19 | August 21, 2019 8:28 AM |
R18 Are you old enough to remember or even know about 976 lines? (maybe someone should do a thread on that?). Anyway, 976-HUNG or whatever the fuck it was, he came to me off of that. I opened the door, immediately recognized him as an actor, but thought it was somebody else. We did the usual intro, he was kind of nervous, like he was afraid of being recognized. So I pretended I didn't recognize him and treated him like shit, which was what he wanted. He jacked off while sucking my dick. Not real imaginative. lol
Anyway, I was certain, it was "that guy from Knots Landing", (Kevin Dobson). I confided to a friend who was a knots fanatic and he couldn't believe Kevin Dobson was gay and kept insisting that it couldn't have been him. Some time later, I was watching Die Hard on television, and there he was ! lol It was definitely him. I called my friend, who was relieved, and he then told me he had heard William Atherton stories and claimed he should have figured it out himself.
And to answer the next predictable question, I don't remember anything about his dick.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | August 21, 2019 9:10 AM |
I remember this so well, as I thought Atherton was cute. I was kind of fascinated with Aesthetic Realism, in it's being a cult and what I thought of (and still do) as a con job. I remember seeing the Susskind program too. I always wondered if Atherton would come around but I guess he never did. Sad.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | August 21, 2019 12:14 PM |
It’s William Atherton.
Nobody cares.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | August 21, 2019 2:05 PM |
The Eldergays here all remember this, at least generally. Atherton blew his entire career with this nonsense.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | August 21, 2019 2:41 PM |
Red haired all smell funny "down there."
by Anonymous | reply 24 | August 21, 2019 2:54 PM |