Tom Welling, Lynda Carter’s WW, Burt Ward return in Crisis in Infinite Earths.

Lynda Carter is coming back as WW! Holy shit!

Burt Ward was a cutie back in the day.

Will they still kill off Supergirl and Flash, a la the original?

I have always wanted to rim Tom Welling until he shoots his load down my throat.

Tom is a hot daddy now!

I'm kind of surprised that Tom is only 42 years old and he has gone totally gray!

It would be a hoot if they brought in Cathy Lee Crosby’s WW along with Lynda.

And George Clooney, Michael Keaton Val Kilmer etc ALL THE BATMANS

OMG!!!!!!!!!

Is this true???????????

If Clark is coming back then Lex has to as well!!!!!

OMG!!!!!

I am very very excited about this.

Now that a certain long running CW show is coming to an end, they can spend money on something people might actually watch.

Fuck you, R11

I’ll pass, R12. But thanks for the offer.

I wonder what Lynda's costume will be.

R14 I wonder if they will de-age her digitally and cast someone with Lynda’s 70’s body type for action shots or go with a mature variation on the character. The latter would be more cost effective. She has to spin!

[quote]I have always wanted to rim Tom Welling until he shoots his load down my throat.

On Krypton, we used to call it the "double glory shot of Rao"!

Freaking amazing idea

Tom Welling and Michael Rosenbaum... together again!

Can they get Alicia Silverstone back as Fatgirl?

Crisis On Infinite Earths was the most epic thing DC Comics ever did. I knew it was only a matter of time before they turned it into a series or movie.

He looks like Burke Ramsey in R4.

Is this for real? I would think Lynda Carter suiting up to play Wonder Woman again would be big enough news to at least warrant a story in the Hollywood Reporter, wouldn't it? In any event, I hope it's true and I would definitely watch.

The article says they are ‘in talks.’

Tom Welling is morphing into Jeremy Renner.

Ugh, no R24. Tom Welling is still beautiful, just differently. Jeremy Renner is fug.

R20 except the CW version will be terrible.

Ugh remember when that bitch refused to put on the supe getup cause that will get in his stars career ? Not so starry now huh, Tom.

I recall Smallville Season 1, where they put the 15-year-old Clark on a post with his shirt hanging open. You could just hear the viewer cocks snapping to attention. Unfortunately, they never showed that glorious moment of self-discovery when Clark had an 'accident' in the barn with the milking machine.

I wonder if they'll get Erica, Laura and Helen involved too.

Even though she’s already been back as the female version of Brainiac, I would love Laura to appear as Kara

R30 I don't see why she can't since Brandon gets to play Superman again while playing a different character on LOT.

DC should have built their cinematic universe to lead up to Crisis, but they don’t have Marvel’s vision and planning. This needs lots of $$$ to do it right, and they are just dealing with CW tv money. Each show has an entire season to budget for in addition to this event crossover.

R2, Burt Ward was once married to the daughter of Mort Lindsey, Judy's conductor and Merv Griffin's bandleader.

They should just go for broke and have Rep. Ilhan Omar appear as the POTUS in the CW Universe.

It would drive Trumptards insane!

R34 Not everything has to become political. Jeez

R35, did you not watch last season's Supergirl?

Lois is coming back and we'll also meet their son, Jon.

There’s a difference in political storylines in the CW shows and trying to insert Ilan Omar and Trump supporters into a discussion about a superhero crossover event.

I remember the "Batman" series wardrobe department having a problem with Burt Ward's VPL.

He)s fit and ready to put on the tights again!

Jonathan Schaech will be in Crisis as Jonah Hex.

It’s been confirmed!!!

Tom will appear in the crisis episodes this fall!!

Woohoo.!!

I feel bad for Tyler, no way he can compare to Toms beauty.

[Quote] I feel bad for Tyler, no way he can compare to Toms beauty.

Lol I beg to differ.

[quote]I have always wanted to rim Tom Welling until he shoots his load down my throat.

Um, not to be pedantic, but if you're rimming him wouldn't it be shit he shoots down your throat?

So no Lynda Carter WW?

Hows about Cathy Lee Crosby then?

[quote]She has to spin!

Cue the lazy susan.

R45 not as WW 😔

Do we know for sure that Lynda won’t be participating?

R42 DC hasn't destroyed some of their iconic stories like Captain Marvel whose name was Marvel and he was a man. Those Starlin stories were the best stories of the 70s bit Marvel negated that with that bad movie. Not to mention the lead's totally mediocre performance.

R48 they confirmed she wouldn't be appearing as Wonder Woman but said they would still like her to be involved. Honestly it's jam packed as it is.

Bring back Burt Ward as Jabba.

R51 I bet he'll only be onscreen for a minute as Robin, like John Wesley Shipp was in the last crossover.

Frobin.

I hope we get some photos soon.

Michael Rosenbum supposedly won't be appearing on COIE as Lex.

[Quote] Michael Rosenbum supposedly won't be appearing on COIE as Lex.

Confirmed on his twitter 🙁

Yeah, they treated Michael like shit.

Clois

r56 Hmm, I find myself wanting to side with some of the comments under that tweet. First of all, this is CW schlock, not high art, so why the fuck would you need the script in advance? Secondly, this is fan service, so of course the pay isn't the main draw here for anyone.

You know, I quite like him as an actor, but his sense of his own importance isn't really proportionate to where he currently is in the acting world. Just sayin'.

Are they going to bring back Jackson Bostwick and Joanna Cameron as Captain Marvel and Isis from the 1970s live action Saturday morning series?

Osric Chau from Supernatural coming on as Ryan Choi for COIE and who in the comics eventually became the second Atom.

If Linda Carter does the Wonder Woman spin, I will be outright giddy with pleasure.

Get her drunk, then give her a whirl.

R59 apparently he doesn't like to leave his grandfather who suffers from Alzheimer's.

The actress from the 2002 Birds of Prey tv show who played Huntress is coming on for COIE.

#ReturningSoon #StayTuned

Brandon is being a good sport promoting this, especially since they’re writing both him and his wife off of the show this season.

Tom Welling has always been handsome, but he’s incredibly sexy with the beefier body.

Arrow spin-off with Mia Smoak

What kind of costume would Lynda wear? Obviously not her original one eventhough she looks incredible for her age.

The Cathy Lee Crosby jumpsuit could work.

R70 whatever it is, hopefully there's no camel toe this time around.

Just a few alterations for Lynda would be necessary.

[quote]Just a few alterations for Lynda would be necessary.

Hardly. Lynda Carter is still gorgeous. Most women would kill to look as good as she does at 67 years old.

I always imagine that Delta Burke could have looked this good, as well, if she hadn't gone off the rails.

I can't believe Lynda Carter has never had work done. 68 year-olds don't have jawlines that firm.

Official photo

Tom and Tyler on set.

The only thing that excites me as much as Lynda is that Kevin Conroy is going to be playing the Batman Beyond Bruce Wayne.

r77 Tom looking super "refreshed." 👀

Wow. Did not realize Tom was so much bigger than Tyler, as demonstrated in r77's photo.

Tom Welling is usually listed as 6'3" while Hoechlin at 6'0".

Welling and Tom Ellis from Lucifer seem to be about the same height, and Ellis is also listed as 6'3".

Tom Welling is not only taller, but he seems bigger physically than Tyler. If may be the angle from which the photo was taken, but Tom seems huge while Tyler seems tiny.

Tom Welling is human beef. I actually recoiled once as a kid watching this show when I saw his thumb and it was the size of my fucking big toe. He was so stacked, he walked kinda inelegantly because of that as well. Sort of lumbered from one place to another.

They could make bank with a Lynda WW show in the Arrowverse. She still looks great, probably would love the job, and is thought of fondly by both millennials, gen x, and baby boomers.

R56 Too bad. I would have loved to see Michael walk in and yell for Miss Tessmacher in true Hackman fashion.

R85 i know 😕

It looks like they allegedly still trying to get Lynda Carter.

[quote]They could make bank with a Lynda WW show in the Arrowverse. She still looks great, probably would love the job, and is thought of fondly by both millennials, gen x, and baby boomers.

Doing this crossover event is just the right amount. Apparently, it's one episode on each of the currently running shows - Arrow, Supergirl, Legends, Batwoman, Flash. That's essentially a five episode arc. The hoopla will be off the charts if she does it.

She was brilliant on Law & Order and SVU as a grifter working with her daughter.

R88 I feel like a lot of these are just going to be 30 second cameos though.

Obviously if Lynda does it she won't be wearing her old WW costume, but they'll make something age-appropriate.

[quote][R88] I feel like a lot of these are just going to be 30 second cameos though.

I don't think so. While it's not going to follow the original Crisis on Infinite Earths story, I think the participation is going to vary. Welling probably won't do that much more than a 30-second cameo, but Routh will probably do a lot more since he was a series regular on Legends and it wouldn't be like coming out of retirement to do it.

DC Animated needs to do a faithful adaptation of Crisis On Infinite Earths, like they did with Frank Miller's Dark Knight. That would be worth watching.

A Lynda Carter WW reboot on WB would be amazing. It would get all demographics and major advertising dollars and would maybe help push WB in the "prestige TV" direction.

Lynda is only 68, which is now still "marketable" per Meryl, Cher, etc.

I wonder if Lucy was still alive, if she would appear as her Superman with the football helmet?

Or would you-know-who try and talk her out of it.

It looks like they are trying to tie as many past DCTV shows as possible to the Arrowverse. Supposedly there's still more people that they haven't announced yet for the crossover. It's believed that Tom Welling may be there for longer than just a cameo because of Marc Guggenheim.

[Quote] Supposedly there's still more people that they haven't announced yet for the crossover.

Who's left??

I don't know R96 maybe someone else from Smallville, the Birds of Prey tv show, another new character or maybe someone from another DCTV show or Mark Hamil as the Trickster or the Joker. Heck if anyone is still alive maybe someone from the 50s Superman tv show.

Jesse being a cutie.

So long as original Flash dies, and Supergirl is destroyed at the start of the universe and so never existed, as happened in the comic, I shall be happy.

[Quote] and Supergirl is destroyed at the start of the universe

Lol even if they do that, they'll bring her back.

^ Indeed, they did in the comic, of course.

Always loved this, yeah die Flash

[quote]Who's left??

70s Shazam

70s Isis

Cathy Lee Crosby Wonder Woman

Julie Newmar & Lee Meriwether Catwoman

John Haymes Netwon & Gerard Christopher Superboy

Stacy Haiduk Lana Lang

Annette O'Toole Lana Lang/Martha Kent

Dean Cain Superman

Terri Hatcher Lois Lane

Do they have access to the current Titans, Doom Patrol & Swamp Thing actors?

[Quote] Lana Lang

I can't see them asking Kristin because of the sex cult stuff.

[Quote] Dean Cain Superman

Cain says he hasn't been asked. And they haven't had him on Supergirl for a few seasons now. Some think it's due to his politics.

[Quote] Do they have access to the current Titans, Doom Patrol & Swamp Thing actors?

Swamp Thing (stupidly) was cancelled. I don't see them showing up.

[quote]I can't see them asking Kristin because of the sex cult stuff.

Was she as deep into it as Allison Mack was? I mean, I guess no one was, since Mack is the only one going to jail, but I thought Kristin was only part of the MLM, not the sex slavery.

Christ, get a load of that cock buldge!

R105 Kristin is the one who introduced Alllison to said cult.

[quote]Cain says he hasn't been asked. And they haven't had him on Supergirl for a few seasons now. Some think it's due to his politics.

I met Dean Cain at one of the cons. He was extremely personable and very pleasant toward all the fans.

He's also no where near lycra-ready, but still quite handsome.

Remember all of those DL threads swearing up and down that Welling is gay?

Brandon getting into shape

[quote][R105] Kristin is the one who introduced Alllison to said cult.

But did she get as deep as the branding, or just the creepy MLM part?

She's got a show that she produces and stars in for CBC, which the CW picked up to air in the US, so they can't be THAT worried.

Kreuk got out the moment it got creepy, but the real issue is that people perceive her as the one who recruited Mack. Which she did. So it's hard to separate the two, even if she did nothing wrong.

Crisis On Infinite Earths is going great!

Ugh, the last person I want to see is that horrid Lana Lang played by KK. Loathe her character.

Tom has a baby now but I don’t know if he married the baby momma.

Routh wins hands down in r115's pic.

He's classically handsome - love the slightly greying hair.

Lyla Michaels who is Harbinger in the comics is coming to COIE.

Her outfit kind of reminds me of Maria Hill.

Well it looks like they supposedly wanted to try to get Cameron Cuffe who played Superman's grandfather Seg-El from Krypton to be apart of COIE but we're unable to due scheduling conflicts.

It's also alleged that if the possible Lobo spinoff were to find another network that Cuffe and Sipos would return.

Lois and Lois

Doesn't Erica Durance already play Supergirl's mother?

R123 yes she does.

Weird. Although I guess Brandon Routh...

She looks good.

Erica took over the role as Supergirl's mother after Laura Benanti who had been playing the character left the show. Erica also played a character called Noelle Neil on the show.

Noel Neil played Lois Lane in the 1950s Superman TV series. The name of Erica's character was an homage to her.

I agree Burt Ward was cute in the 1960s Batman series. For those who don't know about the book, there was a huge controversy about his huge package. Network executives met and called Adam West a "ballerina crotch" compared to him.

A large Catholic organization and the "American Decency League" or something to that effect complained to the network and producers. Why were they looking at his dick?

So the costumers forced Ward to wear a special "crotch girdle" to tie down his dick. The device is visible through his costume, as his bulge before he began wearing it.

I'll be glad to see Tom and Lynda if they return to television. Also saw Brandon Routh in a photo; he was a handsome Superman. There's a handsome gay doctor in my city who has a resemblance to him.

So, with Erica playing Lois is Tom seriously playing the Clark from Smallville? Because that's awesome.

Yes he is R129. They essentially are trying to fold as many previous dctv shows as possible into the Arrowverse.

I agree with the commenter about Kristin Kreuk...Lana was so annoying on Smallville, I don't need to see her in this project.

I don't know about the cult though. She took some classes and brought Mack to those, but I think Mack got deep into the cult all on her own.

Kristen has said that she would like to do a cameo in this crossover.

Are they on the Waverider? Pic at R133?

Burt Ward spotted

^is he playing Bouncing Boy from The Legion of Superheroes?

Titans has reminded me how truly awful and childish the CW DC shows are. If only they all were as well-made as Titans. It's so weird that they are all produced by Greg Berlanti.

BTW, I get why people like the CW DC shows but still. I used to watch them but at one point I just couldn't take it anymore. Legends was shit from the start, though.

R141 I'm still pissed off about what happened with Swamp Thing. I understand why they prefer to make more CW-friendly type shows. But they could do so much better. And GB didn't seem to cop much flack from the drama with Andrew Kreisberg.

Matt Ryan is sexy as Constantine.

R144 sexier than Keanu?

[quote][R144] sexier than Keanu

In the actual role of Constantine, yes.

But, Keanu as John Wick is pretty darn sexy.

........

My favourite Batman.

It looks like Tom Ellis who plays Lucifer may be in Crisis.

........

R159 of course he's a hot Lucifer lol

Who wouldn't want to see Tom Ellis and Tom Welling reunite.

There's a rumor that a few Titans characters could have a brief cameo in COIE.

At this rate, everyone's going to have a 30 second cameo 😄

Its rumored that Burt Ward will be playing himself and not an older Robin in a cameo and possibly that an actor who was in the Batman 89 movie may make a cameo.

No Lynda yet?

R156 maybe they'll keep that one as a surprise.

Stephen Loob has been cast as Detective Jim Corrigan for Crisis and who in the comics is the human host for the powerful cosmic entity known as The Spectre.

SPOILER: If they're going to be faithful to the 1985-86 Crisis on Infinite Earths comic book series, in the end both Supergirl and Barry Allen will die.

R162 even if they do die, they'll just get brought back to life. They might kill off one of the Supermen instead.

I thought that Oliver Queen was going to sacrifice himself so that both Supergirl and The Flash were spared.

The Arrow is ending, after all.

Lookin good, John.

🍑🍑🍑

First teaser trailer for COIE.

While it's not like opening Dostoevsky and starting in the middle of the book, I wonder if I can just watch the five episodes and follow along with the majority of the story.

All I really want to see are the cameos and guest spots.

Nice to see Black Lightning part of the storyline!

The Legends are in it, too. When does their season start?

TYLER'S ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R169 you should be fine.

R170 their season starts next year. Supposedly there's still some people in COIE who haven't been announced yet I think according to the Flash showrunner.

I hope Rosenbaum is one of them.

[quote]I hope Rosenbaum is one of them.

Your hope was dashed 120 responses ago at r56.

R173 not happening. The CW fucked that up.

R170 where are you seeing Tyler's ass?

His backside on several shots above.

Teaser trailer

Man, Tom looks good.

Wow, the producers came out and admitted the Routh's Kingdom Come Superman is the future version of the one he played in Superman Returns.

Kevin as Batman.

Crisis poster

Which shows are involved? I watch Arrow and Flash but have no idea which other ones I should be recording.

R182 Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Batwoman and Legends.

New trailer

How do I get tom welling inside me?

New trailer

So is Lynda in this?

Wait R187 was that Wil Wheaton?

R189 I think it is.

Spoiler Alert 🚨

Worlds will live! Worlds will die!

.....

Punching isn't going to get you anywhere, Kate 🙄

Have there been any rumors about someone from Earth X making a cameo? It seems kind of weird that they would do it without the Ray and/or Citizen Cold.

Especially since there's such a lack of the masculine energy Russell Tovey brings with him.

I don't think so R195 but it was r recently revealed that they tried to get Nicholas Cage for a cameo.

4 minutes to go...

I think they said there were six cameos they haven't announced.

Anyway, I don't have cable, so I'll have to bow out until it's on the CW app tomorrow.

Evidently the 1989 Batman movie is part of the multiverse.

Too bad there's no Lynda

So far, so awesome.

R196 I don't know why they bothered. As if Cage would have said yes.

Can't believe they let the one out proud gay superhero die. Could they just not get Russell Tovey back?

That was astonishingly good.

R204

More than likely his character was way too expensive for the special effects similar to house fire storm was almost never fire storm

R202 it was also said that they tried getting various actors associated with DC in some way or another but either their schedules supposedly wouldn't allow them to do it or the actors wanted more money than the show could pay them or they thought doing this crossover was beneath them.

[quote]Can't believe they let the one out proud gay superhero die.

This is a Greg Berlanti show.

Only bulldaggers, chicks with dicks, etc are allowed to be heroes.

Gay men are second class citizens in his universe.

[quote]Too bad there's no Lynda

The speculation I've read she'll be Wonder Woman on the Kingdom Come Earth. Which raises the question if Wonder Woman-75 takes place in the same universe.

Also, they basically have to restore at least some of the Earths, since, you know, they wiped out the Titans and the Doom Patrol.

Do you think Russell and the Titans cameo was actually shot for this crossover or was it just extra footage from other things? I mean why Jason Todd and Hawk?

It's COIE. ALL of the Earths will be unified with one timeline.

This will be restarted at the beginning of time and all of the dead characters will be restored on the new single Earth.

I've wanted to watch Titans but I am sick of DC lesbians/bisexuals. Is Titans overloaded in Sapphic-ness? Ugh.

Who is the "Bruce Wayne" in the commercial?

Kevin Smith is right: they have GOLD in Tyler as Superman! Or should I say STEEL???

Tyler is the best filmed Superman so far. I even like this Lois Lane.

Kevin Conroy R212. He has voiced Batman in animation for at least 20 years.

Going back to the CW's WB days, they should have had Ashley Scott appear as The Huntress. Dina Meyer as Oracle!

CGI in some of the actors from the 1979 comedy specials!

Ashley Scott is appearing.

As Huntress?????????????????????

Yes. Some pictures of her in costume leaked, but I'm not sure where.

I just found this article.

Wow! Ashley is wearing the SAME Huntress costume she wore in 2002!!!! Incredible!!

Geeking out!!!!!!

Here is one of the new photos:

R210 apparently it's a deleted scene.

R212 I'm still undecided on Lois. But I'm seeing alot of fans prefer a SM show with Brandon.

Why does old Bruce Wayne have a black houseboy?

Isnt that Lucius Fox's son?

...

[quote]I've wanted to watch Titans but I am sick of DC lesbians/bisexuals. Is Titans overloaded in Sapphic-ness? Ugh.

It is a Greg Berlanti show so you'll see bulldaggers, trannies, chicks with dicks long before you'll ever see a well adjusted gay man.

R222 yes

R221 Because he obviously likes em black and hot

Omg!!! Tom looks gorgeous!

It’s kinda a bummer that he’s just a regular person now.

Tom is still as sexy as ever and really makes Tyler Hoechlin minuscule by comparison. You can tell that the condition of Tom's cameo was that it wouldn't involve the suit or CGI etc. In my head canon this was not the same earth as "Smallville", just a very similar one. Also Tom Welling's Superman blows the others out of the water in terms of strength. He pushed an entire planet out of the solar system. I can't imagine Tyler's superman being able to do that.

The SM v SM fight was poor CGI but it was lovely seeing BR as Superman again.

Jon Cryer is a very lacklustre Lex Luthor. I stopped watching Arrowverse shows a couple of years ago and only dip back in for the crossovers. So this was my first exposure to his interpretation of LL. In a way it was good that Michael Rosenbaum didnt return as it would have really highlighted the issue.

Not a fan of Ruby Rose and I find her very hard to understand when she's in costume.

[quote]It’s kinda a bummer that he’s just a regular person now.

I actually found it kind of delightful. Even though neither is an outstanding actor, by the end of Smallville, Tom and Erica were, if not my favorite version of Clark and Lois, my favorite version of them as a couple. It was nice seeing that they managed to end up in a happy life together.

I love that they've used the music from the various movies and series to introduce the Earths. The use of John Williams' score when they introduced Brandon's Superman just really got me.

It's fun trying to figure out why the various Earths are numbered the way they are. Earth-66 was fairly obvious, -96 is the year Kingdom Come was published, -99 was the debut of Batman Beyond. But I'm stumped on the Smallville one, Earth-167.

In the comics earth 167 was the reality where Clark was Batman and Lex was Superman. So it’s a weird choice to reuse that number for something so different. Earth1610 would have been better as the show first aired 16 October.

Also, Superman III is a terrible movie, and I think Singer (sigh) was right to ignore it for Superman Returns, but I have to admit, -96 telling -38, Lois, and Iris that he'd "gone crazy and fought [himself]" before got a huge giggle out of me. As was acknowledging that his own son still existed when making goo-goo faces at Jonathan.

[quote]In the comics earth 167 was the reality where Clark was Batman and Lex was Superman. So it’s a weird choice to reuse that number for something so different. Earth1610 would have been better as the show first aired 16 October.

I thought maybe Smallville ran for 167 episodes, but it actually for a lot more than that, so I'm totally stumped.

Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to send Iris along with Clark and Lois ? Elongated Man or Killer Frost would have been more fun. Iris sucks the life out of every scene.

The Superman who Lex killed is suspected to be either the late 80s Superboy(tv show) or 1975 Superman(musical).

Given that it happened on Earth-75, odds are the latter.

[Quote] Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to send Iris along with Clark and Lois ? Elongated Man or Killer Frost would have been more fun. Iris sucks the life out of every scene.

Killer Frost was in the previous crossover. She'll probably show up in tomorrow's episode. What i don't understand is why Lois and Iris just stood there watching Brandon and Tyler fight instead of dealing with Lex??

Also lol at this ⬇️

Yes, R229, I agree. It’s just that I wanted to see Toms Supes go to battle and do a bit more than the cameo he did.

Everybody is saying that if any world Clark would have left it all behind it would have been Toms Clark as he was portrayed as the most human given his upbringing.

I still enjoyed seeing Tom as Clark nevertheless.

I hate the idea of using that Lazarus Pit (again) for Oliver.

I don’t quite understand why that old man was Bruce. I kept thinking he was Julian Glover 😛😂

I was available.

I was also confused by the kingdom come superman because in the card box I believe that is earth 19 or 20

Kevin Conroy's Batman was riffing on Frank Miller's Batman: The Dark Knight comics series.

Kevin Smith looked so much better fat.

Any nudes of Elongated Man?

Tina McGee!

This after show sucks.

Agreed.

Stargirl preview.

any dirt on tom welling?

R245 Guess Luke Wilson can't get movie deals so why not do a CW show

[quote]any dirt on tom welling?

Maybe on the tip of his mammoth cock that drags the ground when he walks.

R246 I wouldn't be surprised if he was part of the sex cult at some point.

I enjoyed the cameos and Easter eggs but the story is so lackluster. I know they don't have a big budget but all they do is walk around and talk. From episode one of Flash it's been he disappears in Crisis, now 6 years later, doesn't have to be this Flash, such a cop out. I like how Oliver's daughter is a major part of the story but his gay son is no where to be seen. Iris is also an expert on the Waverider, the actress must have dirt on the producers. Was hoping Lucifer and Constantine would have flirted at least. Like that Lila has a big role in this., wish she had zapped Barry for whipping her daughter out of existence. As long as Lynda Carter shows up as WW, then this cross over will be redeemed.

The Flash portion of this crossover is my fave even though no one can act except for Cress and John Wesley Shipp. I'm also grateful there was barely any Mia because she came off as brat and i wanted Sara to whoop her ass. I'm kind of embarrassed that i didn't realize Wentworth was voicing the ship until this episode.

Well, in the Arrowverse,all that's left are straight people and lesbians, Berlanti's dream come true.

Crisis on Earth X from a couple of years back was better.

Crisis on Earth X also had a lot of gay

R250. I hate to agree with you, but yeah, a lot of talking and a lot of moments of it looking like grownup actors running around in costumes playing.

I figured John Wesley Shipp's Flash would be the one to die -- but even he comes back in Rebirth in the comics so....

I read there's another big cameo montage coming up. I'll tune in for that.

R255 I think there's supposed to be more than one.

[quote]Oliver's daughter is a major part of the story but his gay son is no where to be seen

Knowing Berlanti she either already has a cock or will be transitioning next season.

Anything to keep a gay cis male off these shows.

Why was that hot gay Pied Piper barely used and then disappeared like he never existed?

Duh, he was an out gay man.

Berlanti despises them.

His excuse is probably due to Andy Mientus's schedule, but he's been open to returning to the role. Just never asked.

Kat seems like a nice girl but Mia has such a punchable face.

I preferred Kat more on Shadowhunters than on Arrow.

Andy is gay, right?

R263 which one is Andy??

Andy Mientus is bisexual

r265

sure jan

Ugh. Glad he’s canceled then.

Did Welling get married? He’s in a picture with his little boy and his wife? He’s wearing a tux.

Too bad, he’s incredibly good looking.

R269 so because he's good looking he shouldn't get married??

Yup, he should of played the field, eventually he would have worked his way to me 😬😬😬

R271 😄😄😆

Am I supposed to believe that Ryan Choi is straight? Because I don't.

According to the show's you are supposed to r273

You're also supposed to believe that Grant Gustin is straight.

I have a much easier time believing of Grant Gustin. I know nothing of Osric Chau, but he's had some man go up inside him at some point.

Osric likes wearing woman's clothes.

I guess that answers that.

So, is Lynda in Parts Four or Five?

And, why not?

Will they all live on a single New Earth now?

According to Supernatural fans, Osric is supposedly a sleazebag at conventions when it comes to his female fans.

R279 we don't know yet. Hopefully she'll show up as Wonder Woman, otherwise she could just play the President again. I thought at first they'd all end up on one earth, but now I'm not so sure.

As long as they include Bouncing Boy for the chubby chasers.

I'm a huge Legion fan, so this is exciting news.

Gonna be hard to include 25+ members of the Legion. Show will likely focus on a small number of Legionnaires, like the cartoon series did.

Article says that Berlanti's favorite period was the fourth series that began in 1989. But I hope they don't try to adapt that period of the Legion's rich history. In my opinion, 1989 was when Legion when dreadfully wrong. My favorite period of the Legion was the Jim Shooter run of the late 1960s, followed closely by the Paul Levitz run through most of the 1980s.

There are some hotties in the Legion.

Can they get Chris Wood back to play Mon-El? Please.

I cant believe there are two Legion fanatics on this board. I'd love to see an adaptation of the original Mordru two-parter!

My favorite run was the Cary Bates/Dave Cockrum/Mike Grell/Jim Shooter Reprise era of the Early-to-Mid Seventies.

Lightning Lad's SIDEBURNS!!!!!!

Mon-El was a cocky leader and so hot!

Ultra Boy! Superboy!

Mike Grell's gay Cosmic Boy costume!!!!

R286, more than 2 LSH fans here:

I wonder if they'll use Mon-El or Brainiac, just because they're already on Supergirl.

[Quote] Can they get Chris Wood back to play Mon-El? Please.

I don't think Chris was happy with his portrayal on Supergirl. They might recast instead.

Is HBO Max going to get all of the DC super hero shows including Titans/Doom Patrol?

R291 yes

40s animated Superman has been made cannon to the Arrowverse.

These costumes are fucking terrible. I never watch Flash--because it's THE worst--but the Killer Frost and Vibes costumes are so ridiculous, I could barely take it. Black Lightnings , Batwoman, Supes translate well. I tried to watch BL but it's just too much...and not enough...

Y'know?

I'm enjoying Batwoman, but her costume is terrible in comparison to the comics.

I like Nick Zano’s Steel costume. I think he actually looks really hot in it. I wish they would feature him using his superpowers more often but it seems as if Legends in particular has reduced their CGI budget.

Has anyone ever tried to call out Berlanti on social media or in person about his erasure of gay males in his creations?

Spoiler Alert 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 🚨

Felicity is in the Crisis crossover and someone apart of team Flash died.

Black Lightning has too much Lesbianism - duh.

But the series is very solid. Writing and acting are excellent.

I know and accept Rosenbaum isn’t returning, but I can’t help feeling bummed out by it. His Lex really is unsurpassed, even from his inaugural episodes and so many years after they aired. He’s sorely missed. I think he would have done a fine job with the role once again and I would have been beyond excited to see his middle-aged vision of Lex, but I see why he won’t do it and respect the (probably wise) decision.

OT but does anyone else find it a tough hang watching SMALLVILLE back since Mack was convicted of all her creepy cultism? It’s ruined the show for me.

R211 originally as a property TITANS wasn’t ever big on gay characters Male or Female, even in the books and animations. The comic was more about group race/ethnicity & disability/mental health issues for youth (especially in the cases of Starfire, Cyborg, Beast Boy & Raven) than it was about sexuality & personal identity, which is more a Marvel (especially X-Men) thing anyways.

Crush (2011) & Bunker (2019) are recent token-gay additions to the Titans. Off the top of my head I can’t even remember if any original Titans were actually canon-gay: I think Jericho or Rose Wilson (Slade’s son & daughter)? possibly Kid Devil in one book? Then of course there’s the Robins Jay & Dick but that’s a holdover from the Bat-verse.

R297 he didn't get much backlash over Andrew Kreisberg.

R299 lesbian fans would disagree with you and your silly criticism.

Black Lightning's daughter Thunder in the comics is a lesbian and in a relationship with an Amazonian.

Yesterday I rewatched the 200th episode of Smallville - the one where Brainiac5 takes Clark to the past and future. And wow the dialogue is a lot more cringe than I remember. Lois in particular was awful.

R304 SMALLVILLE was from the CW. It would be off-brand if the dialogue were anything but cringeworthy. See ARROW, SUPERNATURAL, GOSSIP GIRL, THE VAMPIRE DIARIES or ONE TREE HILL for more egregious examples.

[quote]Felicity is in the Crisis crossover and someone apart of team Flash died.

Cisco or Kaitlyn?

You know it won't be Iris.

R306 I'm sure some wish it were Iris. Thanks to the latest drama with Candice.

R307, what has she done?

I stopped watching the Arrowverse after being a loyal viewer of Flash and Supergirl after SG got so lesbo/trans centric and SJW preachy.

I watched the 1st 3 Crisis eps and it's ehhhhh.

I still don't get how Brandon Routh is a Clark/Supermen and just happens to look exactly like Ray/The Atom. Isnt that NOT how the parallel earths work?

And they transported like a BILLION people from SG's earth to Earth 1? WTF?? Where are they all living?

WHere is Lynda Carter???

It's supposedly Kid Flash r306.

R308 Candice was accused on instagram by a basketball player's wife of fucking her husband.

So they're going to kill off someone who hasn't been on the show in over 2 years?

Not to mention a gay actor.

Berlanti strikes again!

[Quote] Candice was accused on instagram by a basketball player's wife of fucking her husband.

It was pretty obvious since JR was walking her dog. No wonder she was feelin herself at the Halloween party in Vegas.

I wish they had asked Faye Dunaway and Brenda Vaccaro!

Does Faye even know the CW exists?

Was “The Starlet” on the CW?

Wasn’t Keiynan Lonsdale supposed to join Legends as a regular cast member before suddenly deciding to pursue a film career? I wonder if he actually filmed scenes - if the rumor is true - or if they’ll kill him offscreen.

Keiynan was in the 3rd season of Legends but left after that.

Oh wait, I misread. He probably didn't film anything new

Not long to go.

So no Lynda Carter, huh?

We have two more episodes so maybe she'll show up then.

On, not In, and who the fuck watches this shit?

R323 Arrowverse fans. I mean, this is as close as it gets to DCs version of Endgame until the WB decides to get it's shit together.

Favourite cameo so far 😃

Glad I came into this thread AFTER that aired here.

Ugh, I was falling asleep and completely missed that!

How cool was that?!

[Quote] How cool was that?!

They really should give Ezra his own movie. And he would be the most likely to make an appearance. Still makes me laugh that some fans thought Cavill would do a cameo.

Did not see that cameo coming. It's really smart of Warner Bros. to make that happen because they don't have to worry about The Batman doing well at the box office, but they do have to worry about The Flash whenever they finally roll film on that standalone. At least this can garner goodwill from "The Flash" fans who felt that Grant Gustin was disrespected by WB by doing another live-action Barry Allen.

No Lynda Carter.

You have Batman, Supermen...but no Wonder Woman.

[Quote] No Lynda Carter. You have Batman, Supermen...but no Wonder Woman.

That sucks 😔 I'm sure they tried to get her.

And to top it all, an appearance by one of the writers of the original Crisis on Infinite Earts, Marv Wolfman.

They also teased Gleek from Super Friends at the end.

So everyone lives on one Earth now?

What about Argo City?

Earth-D Wonder Woman appeared but only in the Comic crossover.

Watching this made me realize just how badly I'd love to slide my tongue between Grant Gustin's asscheeks and rim him til he moans with ecstasy.

What happened to Cisco?

I'm guess Lynda Carter's scene was cut.

This was a really shitty episode. Made me remember why I stopped watching the Arrowverse.

I saw Frost and Barry at the end but no Cisco. I think he died.

Cisco died when the world was destroyed.

The actor wanted off the show so he was not "saved."

I think I missed the ending. The last thing I saw was Oliver’s death and the rebirth of the universe. Was there something after that?

LOL

R342 Sounds like you missed the entire last episode. Both aired back to back.

R345 You’re right! Thanks heaps.

I'll miss Cisco.

I'd rather they had killed off Iris.

Amen R347! Cisco and Caitlin have been favorites of mine since their first appearance on Arrow. But Iris... can not fucking stand the pushy, arrogant bitch.

Too bad they couldn't finalize a deal with Lynda for a return.

The female president speech at the end was very long for an out of nowhere character. I'm thinking they had originally planned that for Lynda, but it didn't work out with her. Too bad. Any sort of appearance would have been good.

So we got 3(!!) deathbed scenes for Green Arrow, but Cisco just vanishes without anyone mentioning that he's not coming back? I'll wait until the next episode to believe if he's truly gone.

Cisco was not killed off. I read an interview with one of the producers today - will post if I can find the link again. Basically, he said that the actors get paid a certain rate for the crossovers - more than just a guest appearance. So budget dictated who appeared where and when and it was a matter of budget which is why no Cisco and Iris.

Cisco is in the previews for the next Flash episode.

Cisco is in the previews for the next Flash episode.

The trailer for the rest of this season of "The Flash" was released and Cisco is prominently featured. In one shot he's even wearing a Superman shirt. There's also a nice scene between Caitlin and him.

[Quote] I'd rather they had killed off Iris.

As if that was going to happen.

They had me at Beebo.

I don't quite get how they had Marv Wolfman but only managed a quick visual reference to George Perez.

WTF is a Beebo?

Is it in the comics??

R357 beebo was one of the characters from one of the legend's episodes

Fine if the budget doesn’t stretch to having certain characters there but they should at least have mentioned them and chuck in an explanation for their absence.

I’ve been out of the shows for a while. Who was the chick in the 5th episode fighting the anti monitor’s phantoms in blue costume with long hair who they made a point of always hiding her face and shooting her from behind. Was it meant to be a character whose actor was unavailable so they used a double or was it just poor directorship.

So both Lynda Carter and Helen Slater appear on "Supergirl" and they couldn't have them appear. They both still look great. They could have pulled off versions of their costumes

George Perez has been in poor health for a while, so he might not have been up to an on camera appearance. Marv was brought in to help supervise the writing for this, so he was likely also around to put him on camera for an appearance.

I did like that Marv's scene was with Kara and Barry, the two characters he killed off in the original Crisis.

Caity Lotz really knocked the final episode out of the park. I guess Sara is going to be the new leader for their team-ups. At least, I hope she is.

I did like that Marv's scene was with Kara and Barry, the two characters he killed off in the original Crisis.

Caity Lotz really knocked the final episode out of the park. I guess Sara is going to be the new leader for their team-ups. At least, I hope she is.

R359 do you mean Dreamer?

I'm still having a hard time buying Osric Chau as straight.

So Superman has two sons now. What are the chances of one being gay??

r367

wha??

Welling looks fat as fuck in that clip, R152.

R368 what was confusing about my post??

Who is the character who looks like Jason from the Friday The 13th franchise?

Wild Dog, aka Rene Ramirez

I know I'm a big Mary! but it makes me very happy to see people like Marv Wolfman, who worked in the ghetto of comic-book writing for so long, see their stories on TV and get recognized for their work.

Was Lynda Carter cut out or was she never really in it ?

[quote]I know I'm a big Mary! but it makes me very happy to see people like Marv Wolfman, who worked in the ghetto of comic-book writing for so long, see their stories on TV and get recognized for their work.

Seeing Marvel acknowledge the original creators in their credits really gets me.

Although does DC give Bill Finger credit for Batman? That's always been a problem.

Bill Finger's been given a With creator credit for Batman for a few years now.

Looks like they could never get a deal for Lynda. Seems they couldn't fit her into the budget and WB wouldn't pay more. Strange that WB did pay more at the last minute to get Ezra into the show, but that's their current priorities, I guess.

[quote]Bill Finger's been given a With creator credit for Batman for a few years now.

Ah. I see that his granddaughter (I assume his son was gay, as he died of AIDS) went up against DC to get them to do that. Good for her.

She gave ‘em the Finger!

Not a big comics fan so I was completely lost as to the star symbol on the table, the gleek thing and had no idea who Marv whatever was.

But this crossover was boring af. The whole thing seemed really silly.

I agree - and I have been a fan of all of the previous crossovers, especially the Earth X one. This one was boring - and surprisingly anti-climatic.

The Lynda Carter version of Wonder Woman appeared the Crisis comic book crossover.

GH actor Chad "DOD" Duell is supposed to appear in the backdoor pilot episode for the Green Arrow spin-off. The actress of plays Mia is alleged that one of the reasons why she signed on to do Arrow is because she was told about the possibility of getting her own show.

The Lynda Carter version of Wonder Woman appeared the Crisis comic book crossover.

GH actor Chad "DOD" Duell is supposed to appear in the backdoor pilot episode for the Green Arrow spin-off. The actress of plays Mia is alleged that one of the reasons why she signed on to do Arrow is because she was told about the possibility of getting her own show.

[quote]The actress of plays Mia is alleged that one of the reasons why she signed on to do Arrow is because she was told about the possibility of getting her own show.

Did they offer Chad's Dick of Death as a signing bonus?

[Quote] The actress of plays Mia is alleged that one of the reasons why she signed on to do Arrow is because she was told about the possibility of getting her own show.

Makes sense. Maybe she won't be such a brat in the spin-off.