Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Ohio...what's the point?

Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.

seems like a depressing area

Cleveland- best orchestra in the country, best art museum, second to NY in theaters/playhouses, lower cost of living, great park system and lake. And oh, you’re a cunt.

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Back in the 1980's, Ohio was home to some great amusement parks like Six Flags (near Cincinnati) and Cedar Point (near Cleveland). I used to go to Cedar Point quite often from Erie PA (got outta there in a hurry before the jokes start) and taking I-90 through Cleveland I could see why it gets bashed a lot. But the lake front towns along the way to Cedar Point were very quaint, reminding me of the towns surrounding Chautauqua Lake.

Cleveland Playhouse, Symphony, R&R Hall of Fame, some great restaurants. As for Columbus/Cincinnati - nah. Stick to Northern Ohio.

Cincinnati has changed a lot in the past ten to fifteen years. "Over the Rhine" (which used to be a drug-infested, crackhouse shithole yet has the largest surviving neighborhood of 19th century Georgian architecture for some reason) has transformed into, inexplicably, a millennial "go to" overpriced, over-hyped mecca of trendy restaurants, shops, microbreweries and jacked-up loft apartments. It's STILL a shithole. The German Republican conservatism poisons the air. It is the PEOPLE who make a city. And the midwestern conservatism of Cincinnati (going back a century) is a stench in the air. Remember, this was ground zero for anti-gay laws, Marge Schott (and her pro-Hitler comments), the Mapplethorpe exhibit debacle, and was virulently anti-gay for most of it's history. Now it's supposed to be "hipsterville" but it's just lipstick on an ugly pig.

Sidebar: Best Chinese food I ever had was at a restaurant in Independence, a suburb West of Cleveland.

There isn’t any point. We found out too late. Please send plane tickets.

R7 sounds like a nightmare

[quote]Cleveland . . ., best art museum

Bless your heart.

We’ll even go to Tampa!!!

Well, Lisa Douglas, imagine the fun you can have with Arnold the Pig.

[quote]Now it's supposed to be "hipsterville" but it's just lipstick on an ugly pig.

Appropriate, since it used to be known as Porkopolis.

[quote]second to NY in theaters/playhouses,

Really?

Cleveland - beautiful suburbs with huge old homes that can be bought for a song.

Cincinnati is home to Procter and Gamble. So all those scientists and marketing people must come from elsewhere--does that have any effect on the city?

It's a short ride from these cities to visit Dayton, Toledo and Akron, so there's that.

Most cities are primarily a place for the locals to live.

R1 = Janbot.

I know I never looked back after WKRP's format flipped to bible radio & Rush Limburger,

Cincinnati has a huge tennis tournament that brings in lots of tourists

NFL and MLB games (not that DL would understand).

Why would anyone care, R22.

The Indians and the Browns are running jokes of their respective leagues.

And it's been ages since either the Bengals or the Reds were contenders.

And Columbus doesn't have an MLB or NFL team.

Visit Cedar Point. It has more roller coasters than anywhere else in the world and they're some of the best. I've been spoiled by it my whole life. I've never been to another amusement park and been impressed with their rides. It's always been a gay mecca. Half the gays in Ohio work there in the summers when they're young. It was the setting for the gay movie Edge of Seventeen.

Cleveland will never be a major destination. Ever. But it does have a charm. I have family who live there and I visit often. The Cleveland Museum of Art is far from the best museum in the country, but it is a beautiful one nonetheless. The Playhouse Square theater district is VERY respectable and considered top 3 in the country. Living near the lake can be lovely - particularly during the summer when it is cool and breezy in many parts of Cleveland while hot, muggy and miserable in most other parts of the country. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is absolutely worth a look and draws visitors from all over the world. Real estate is still reasonable, although 4 years ago you could have purchased entire streets for a song (and nice streets at that). There are gorgeous lakefront homes scattered all up and down the shore on the West Side (many will actually rival Brentwood mansions..). The East Side has gigantic, gracious old mansions that would literally require a live-in staff to keep up. If you love beautiful turn of the century mansions, taking a home tour might be worth the plane ticket.

There's too much Cedar Point to get into one photo.

No, r17. Mostly because P&G recruits from conservative schools. Perdue and Notre Dame are the two schools who's grads I worked with the most.

The more liberal ones get some experience and GTFO to the coasts or put into transfer overseas. The ones left in town like the Bible beating and conservative shit. Those types NEVER leave the city.

The sad thing is, there are a lot of really cool international engineers that I worked with who couldn't wait to get the hell out of Ohio because it's so backwards.

It's like Alabama of the north.

R26 my childhood home was at Fairmount and Exeter , not far from some of those delicious mansions!

I was born in Columbus Ohio, still have family there and visit a few times a year, but I would never want to live there, its still a boring provincial town.

I have family I haven't seen in a few decades in the Cleveland area - part of my maternal line came from there. Myself and mine, we went from Providence, RI to Altanta, GA. I love it down here.

Cleveland is awful and everybody is "American fat".

For the meth and opioids I guess.

I used to travel to Cinty, Dayton, and Columbus regularly. What I love about the region are the choices one has in getting out of Dodge. Tired of the same boys at the same bathhouses and bars? Hop in your car and in three hours or less, you have a new pool to sample. At the same time, the cities have affordable lodging and nightlife, and friendly, Midwestern sensitivities. Of the cities, I’ve visited there, Columbus remains my favorite. Short North is a lot of fun—rife with OSU hotties.

I bought a lovely condo in CincinnatI decades ago. Got kinda tired of packing and unpacking.

🎵🎵 At first they called it Cincy... 🎵🎵

No point for tourists to go imo. But as some have stated Cleveland has some great suburbs. My oldest brother lives in Pepper Pike and has raised his kids there. Some truly beautiful homes and some great college prep schools. If anyone desires a good family life and a big dream house with a yard, Cleveland's suburbs are a nice choice. Just an hour plane ride from New York City when you want to be in a real metropolis.

Anything special about the cocks?

Typical Cleveland suburban (Shaker Heights) mansion for under $1M

There really is no point. I've lived in Columbus all of my life and I get it: it's a dull Midwestern city filled with conservatives and people who aren't very interesting. It's not a city a tourist would want to visit unless they specifically came to see something here (OSU football or something like that). But it's such an *easy* city to live in -- no big traffic jams, decent shopping etc. And Columbus is developing and growing faster than any City outside of the South and the Sunbelt. They have a nice park system and the Downtown area is becoming very residential with many highrises and there is a river walk area called the Scioto Mile that is very pretty and Urban. There are tons of activities in Columbus in the summer -- one of the largest gay pride festivals in the Midwest, along with the Arts Festival (again the largest in the Midwest), 4th of July fireworks that attract half a million people. And tons of free outdoor concerts. If you do come to Columbus -- come in June.

We have a small symphony and art museum and an opera and get traveling stage shows. And there is Ohio State which provides the city with a lot of brain power. It has two of most highly rated hospitals in the country for adults *and* children. It's nice to be able to see a specialist that is nationally known if you get sick and as I get older that becomes more important. Plus, with all the money one saves on the cost of living you can travel to enjoy some of the things missing here.

But yes, I get it -- it's not NYC or LA or Atlanta and never will be but it has its charms.

R39 IMO that is a house not a mansion.

I would move to Columbus just to live in German Village. It is the most beautiful neighborhood in the country.

THREE “Cs”??

You forgot Chillicothe!