Another beauty guru scandal: Hairy Lipstick

Breakdown:

Wow she's terrifying. Why would somebody buy a $20 lipstick from some unknown on YouTube? The cosmetics market is flooded with reputable designer brands.

I think she’s been around for years, and has a big following from her reviews. This current product she launched, however ... well, let’s just say the colors THEMSELVES were well received.

The manufacture, tho, is a giant ‘OH DEAR.’

I don't get why people buy from these influencers either. This is another one, she honestly looks like an Oompa Loompa in drag, yet these people are still buying it for an exorbitant price when they can get similar from a legit company. I guess they know their followers are a bunch of sheep.

Nikita Dragun's such a skank. I watched a lesser known YouTuber review that egg and it was made in such a cheap fashion for how expensive it is.

Jeffree Star's products seem reputable, no? And James Charles' makeup line.

This girl keeps having scandals, disappearing for a while and then appearing with another scandal... Perhaps she should find something else to do with her life? At this rate she won't have any followers to scam anymore.

Call me crazy, but I think social media drama is replacing Reality TV drama. These influencers get more followers with that drama. And apparently there are people who buy stuff from INFAMOUS people, like they want to waste their money on shit that sometimes is even dangerous for the consumers.

Someone called Fancy Face is having NONE OF IT, while coining the phrase [italic]apocalipstick.[/italic]

“Jaclyn Hill and her lipstick FUCKERY!”

If I were a chick or a tranny I would wear mass market cheap makeup brands and learn to apply it expertly.

I believe that's what most women do - at least as far as sticking with drugstore makeup is concerned. Mabelline, Covergirl, Max Factor, L'Oreal etc. all make excellent products one can zero in on thru trial and error. Regular people will buy themselves a Chanel lipstick or something as a treat, but most don't wear designer makeup exclusively.

The women who buy makeup brands designed by someone like this lady Jaclyn Hill are youtube followers who dream of BEING her. They might even have their own crappy little beauty channel. But she made over 3 million dollars on her first eyeshadow collaboration release years ago, and they think "That could be me!!"

R10, I take it you haven't been to Sephora or Ulta. Women spend like crazy on make-up. I think many mix drug store with high end. I agree about these Instagram followers, I don't see any other reason they would buy from an influencer. You just know it's pre-made stuff that they just stick their label on.

These beauty gurus are all crazy. I followed someone who seemed like a normal British lady for a while because I was trying to figure out a decent face moisturizing routine, but within weeks I realized she was insane. Rude, snotty, telling women to stop spending $100 on shoes and spend it on a bottle of moisturizer she was promoting instead. And people were complimenting her on never getting sucked into drama!

This is an entertaining take on this particular "Guru in the Crosshairs"

Quite a bit of this makes me laugh:

Boring frautrage on a dying platform. Can YouTube just go the fuck away forever?

Jaclyn is strong in the face with flat hair and the most off-putting case of vocal fry (talking a mile a minute with a mouth full of spit and a stupid accent). She is clearly copying mannerisms pitch-for-tic from Jeffree Starr(sp?) too, which is creepy as all hell. Aren't beauty mavens supposed to be cool? I wouldn't scrump with her once for the fun of it, and I ain't that particular or a looksist and certainly am not a 9 myself.

How old is she if it took 5 years to develop this one item and she had failed ventures prior to that? Either she started legit businesses in her teens somehow, or she's well into her '30s with a babyface. I don't blame her for exploiting stupid kids for crazy money if they willingly pay her for manufactured drama.

The noose tightens

[quote]ATTENTION: If you purchased the Jaclyn Hill lipsticks and haven't used it please consider contacting Diane Wilson of ABC11. Ms. Wilson did a story a few years back that exposed Justice Brands as having sold makeup with asbestos. She won an Emmy for it. She is willing to do a story including sending unused Jaclyn Hill lipsticks to the lab for testing. This will be the ONLY way to find out what's going on with those lipsticks. Please contact her at Diane.L.Wilson@abc.com if you're willing to part with your Jaclyn Hill lipsticks.

She looks like the poor man’s Priscilla Presley.

I don’t understand it either but I think part of it is that the followers think they have a relationship/friendship with these influencers. At the end of OP’s video the girl repeatedly tells them she loves them, I mean wtf? Do the kids actually fall for it?

Jeffree Star looks like Skeletor

This gal is ON IT! She herself is a biochemist who works in quality management and as a cosmetics formulator.

She is sending her defective Jaclyn Hill lipsticks to a lab for microbial testing -- along with a few by other brands that have similar formulas (to use as comparison/controls.)

I just hope this brave lady doesn't disappear in the night along with her samples, like Karen Silkwood did.

[quote]r17 I don’t understand it either but I think part of it is that the followers think they have a relationship/friendship with these influencers.

This is how the scam works: A big "influencer" like Jaclyn Hill (who, granted, has usually built their following from making vids for years) will have something like 6 million subscribers to her channel. Advertisers will be attracted to channels like that, which have a wide audience.

So, all the other upcoming - and established - "beauty gurus" will JUMP on buying Jaclyn's product and review it on their channel, insuring lots of people who follow Jaclyn Hill will then seek out and watch THEIR video, and drive up THEIR OWN views/subscribers at youtube, instagram, snapchat, twitter, etc.

So the market for a line like this is not necessarily the public, but OTHER INFLUENCERS who will immediately snap up the $300 line of 20 lipsticks in order to rush out a review. It's a business investment.

Go to the [bold]15:00 mark[/bold]

And this -

[quote]ALSO, seems like TOR makeup is claiming Intellectual Property theft, in that JH's lipsticks copy the case with the giant diamondelle on top, as well as the shape, and the lipstick shades. (One can only hope that their formulation is much better than JH!)

Her business partner is her mom - I wonder what their dinner table conversations are like this week.

She’s no Helena Rubenstein. Are her labs in China? When she spoke of black holes I thought she was referring to something else. If the bullying keeps up, she just might become another YouTuberwho commits suicide.

I think it's the lady in the R13 video who says these beauty "influencers" need to just stay [italic]out[/italic] of manufacturing their own products. They're not up to it!

It's like actors saying, "What I really want to do is DIRECT!"

These beauty media people can entertain, they can teach techniques, they can endorse, they can review products, they can do tours etc. etc. etc., and be very very successful. But leave the production to the experts, even if there's potentially more money to be made by owning ones own company. Because that is a. Whole. Different. Thing.

Some of these influencers try to sound like they have an MBA

These influencer/beauty guru gossip videos are addictive. I went down a rabbit hole watching the videos on this situation and the ones about James Charles. It seems like a) she used a poor-quality formula for the lipsticks and a shitty lab to manufacture the products, or b) these were the lipsticks she first created years ago and she's selling them as if they're freshly manufactured failing to take into account (or simply not caring) about product degradation over time.

r24: Jaclyn and other beauty gurus aren't handcrafting these items; they've partnered with major brands to create a special item (e.g., lipstick), they work with manufacturers to get private label items branded with their name, or they work with a formulators/labs to create a new line.

[quote]r26 These influencer/beauty guru gossip videos are addictive. I went down a rabbit hole watching the videos on this situation and the ones about James Charles.

Dear god(dess), I KNOW! It's like catching part of a soap opera out of sequence - even if you don't really care, you suddenly want to see where it GOES. So you keep tuning in...

[quote]r26 Jaclyn and other beauty gurus aren't handcrafting these items

Haha! Can you imagine the delays and even SHITTIER results if they WERE?? It would be so funny to see them, makeup dripping from their faces, as they stooped over cauldrons in their garage. No matter how cruelty free and "ethical" they proclaim to be, they'd ALL be hiring illegal immigrant 9-year-olds by sundown, so they could collapse with an apple martini.

[quote] they work with a formulators/labs to create a new line.

I wasn't using the right terminology, but this is what I meant by a guru switching to "manufacturing" their own stuff. I'm talking about when Our Miss Hill (or whoever the collaboractor is) is no longer under the umbrella of another company that's used to seeing products through from conception to sale. As the entire corporate show, the guru is now in charge of everything. They're not just being sent a sample of something (produced by professionals who know what changes are and aren't possible in any given time frame, and what the accompanying costs and demands are) and simply saying Yes or No, or it needs to be more pink. And the guru alone won't have the contacts in the manufacturing/supplying/etc. world that a company that's specialized in facilitating production for years will have - - which is how so many problems along the way get solved, and avoided in the first place.

It just seems like a recipe for disaster unless the guru is a very special kind of hands-on-business-oriented person ... which most people on this earth are not.

That’s a beauty guru?

Who are you referring to, R28?

The Gold Standard

(Laura Lee)

Have yourself a hair of the Bootsie Gumdrops that bit ya!

She's PK Creedon's (an uber gay Youtuber with the boyfriend (Mike) who was the subject of a recent failed thread about his hotness) "bestie."

Her customers will supposedly find the purchase price of the lipsticks refunded through their bank within 7 business days.

She doesn't want to be known as "the girl who puts out crappy products."

[italic]Too late, Missy!

Unfair!

UPDATE: Jaclyn Hill, the inventor of hairy lipstick, has deleted her social media accounts and gone into hiding.

My funniest find lately is this down home commenter from Chicago, at the[bold] 27:30 [/bold]mark HERE:

(This is in response to Our Miss Hill claiming her hairly lipsticks melted because, basically, people left them in their hot mailboxes too long.)

[italic]"I've shipped CHOCOLATE and not had this many problems! ... Listen, when you know her stuff is comin', take the day OFF and you WAIT for your stuff to get there. Because it's JACLYN and it might MELT! Because her stuff is, the quality is so INTENSE, that it might melt. So the next time, when you see that comin', you get your ass home. You get your ass HOME! You get your ass home and you get your damn Jaclyn Cosmetics before they do! ...Let's just be honest, let's just talk about this! You got to WAIT for your lipsticks, didn't you KNOW that?? ... As a matter of fact, don't fuckin' order her stuff in the summertime! You order her stuff when it's fifty degrees OR LESS outside to make sure they stay stable!! You get 'em in the WINTERTIME!! ... You people are so difficult. Just do it the way JACLYN TELL YOU!!"[/italic]

God, she cracks me up!