Richard Madden and boyfriend Bandon Flynn - Part 11

Previous thread:

"Bandon?"

Great subtitle. There are a bunch of comments on Twitter about the Guardian article in regard to the quote about roles not being restricted because an actor is gay or not. People who aren’t up on everything are saying that as a straight man, Richard has no room to talk and others are commenting that he’s allegedly not straight. Then even others are saying until he comes out he can’t talk either. Interesting, I thought.

Damn.... sorry

BRANDON *** BRANDON***BRANDON****BRANDON***BRANDON

R3 I can see that opinion. If you’re not willing to claim membership in the community it’s not your place to speak on behalf of the community or speak on what the community should or should not have a problem with.

I suggest starting a thread with the names correctly spelled.

Thread with correct name spelling, please!

R3 I saw those. He’s getting blasted for it by people calling him a privileged straight guy. I think that’s because the recent Gay News article said he and Taron both identify as straight. Yet to my knowledge Richard has never stated he was straight — people merely assumed he was because he’s dated women.

R5 I think that’s fair. Who knows ... maybe if this gets his attention he might finally be motivated to address the issue. (Yeah, I know, don’t get your hopes up, etc.)

R3 I saw some of the comments. Unfortunately for him he's getting some backlash from people who aren't up on the situation. His comment would have more weight if he'd have clarified that he's a non straight person.

Obviously OP / R4 your apology is not nearly enough.

Taron gave a comment about inclusivity - "the gay community is known for saying come on in' " -

The little shit. I'm not even against straight actors playing gay as a rule, but to say "Don't discriminate against me, gays"... To say such a thing with the privilege he has...

If Brandon dated Sam Smith who does not identity as male. bur gender fluid, doesn't that make Brandon pansexual rather than gay?

OK Ok , I'll open part 12 (!)

please have patience with me

I think just leave the typo. With the Met gala tonight we’ll fly through this thread anyway

No. Keep it Part 11

Typo doesn't bother me either. Please don't start a bunch of threads

Just check your spelling, that's all.

Brandon hasn't specified that he's gay, has he? His coming out post centred around the same sex marriage debate in Australia but he didn't explicity say he was gay. He's certainly LGBT.

You guys are fixing to get this topic shutdown and banned as fast as La Belle Pace with all these new threads every two days. The webmaster doesn’t take kindly to these types of threads to begin with, as they attract an outside crowd. When they start to eat the bandwidth, they go.

You mean he's a LESBIAN r18?

R18 he's stated previously that he identified as bi when he was a teenager but I don't know if he's ever clarified and said if he currently still does

part 12 is up.

But people are already using this here so [bold]we could/should use part 12 when this is full [/bold] sorry again for the damn typo

You know, I can handle multiple theatre gossip threads because, you know, theatre.

But multiple Richard Madden and boyfriend Brandon Flynn threads?

No.

R24 you’re commenting that on like, the eleventh thread (I think it’s eleven. Maybe there’s more. Who even know at this point.) I think that ship has sailed, friend!

R24, What if they do La Cage together?

"As The Guardian notes, Madden has primarily dating a string of famous actresses (Jenna Coleman, Suki Waterhouse, and Ellie Bamber), but was also recently seen getting cozy with 13 Reasons Why star Brandon Flynn. So maybe a queer actor is playing a queer role, in this instance — at least according to all the fan videos, theories, and horny tweets I’ve seen online."

R26 richard should do broadway

Is Richard going to meet Brandon's ex tonight? There is going to be blood? I want some tea!!

I don't know. He hasn't been very well received on stage, has he? And his way of holding himself has been noted in the recent interview. It doesn't sound like he's built to own a stage.

Brandon did a musical with DL fave Karen Ziemba - A Kander (sans Ebb) musical. Did anyone see it?

Is three women a string of women?

Maybe Brandon should do Broadway

"Bandon" is a Franglais mashup of "bander" and "hard on."

Test

How much gay-baiting will Taron do tonight?

R11 yeah that comment rubbed me the wrong way too, I'm kinda starting to hate the guy lol

The focus seems only on Richard. I'm curious, besides 7 mos with Sam, who else has Brandon dated?

Brandon used to post lots of cozy pics with Miles Heizer. Not anymore...

R38 Kiss kiss

R39 They are just friends "a rep for Miles has stepped in to tell Page Six that no, the two are not an item. On Tuesday, April 11, they told the media outlet that, “This is a false report. Miles and Brandon are friends from the show but are not dating.”

I lowkey don’t wanna see Richard pics with Taron, I want to see his pics with Brandon but it’s only dreams :((

Not dating, just friends

R40 If a kiss on the lips means “not dating,” can we please have some “not dating” vids or pics of Brandon and Richard?

R44 it’s a short movie

R44 that kiss was from a short film they did together it wasn't like they got caught kissing. I mean he kissed Alisha Boe on the lips too lol

Is Miles still “straight” ?

Taron’s gay baiting is getting ridiculous now, I expect a lot of cringe moments from gala

I wonder the reason Taron and Richard are gaybaiting for the Rocketman promo is because of the criticism they are receiving for being "straight" actors and they are showing how comfortable they are and its ok if people speculate? Dont they know gaybaiting is much worst and only attract straight fan girls who like gay shipping? I think its a little too much and they are deff doing it on purpose.

Richard is deff getting backlash in the gay press and the lgbt community are turning against him for his commments and if the mainstreem media will pick this up thn he will prob ask more on this topic during Rocketman press.

I haven’t noticed Richard gay baiting. It seems to be all Taron and Richard is merely trying to be a good sport about it. Did I miss something?

R49 I think that’s the reason Richard isn’t denying the rumors. I can be wrong.

Richard isn't gay baiting, he's bi or gay himself. It's ok if he plays it up. It's only offensive if Taron does it because he's straight.

Sexy Brandon

Gaybaiting only annoys a certain segment of gays. They're not really worried about that segment, not when they've got girls n gays that will eat that shit up with a spoon.

Remember when Shawn Mendes gave that "wake up in a sweat over being thought of as gay" interview and a lot of "right on" gays defended him to the hilt? Yeah, Madden and Taron will be fine.

I think it’s annoying to anybody really

R55 apparently being hot excuses any bullshit you say

Richard didnt deny it but the gay press already made up their mind that he is straight its all over their articles. When the gay press inteview them during the rocketman junket they will bring this particular topic up. Its expected.

[Quote] he's bi or gay himself. It's ok if he plays it up.

Negative. Stand up and be counted, or don't. If you don't, the same rules or privileges don't apply.

Richard is not innocent instead of playing along with Taron to gay bait and appease the criticism why didnt he just bring Brandon to NY and let them be pictured together out and about without confirming anything?

R60 Have you ever thought maybe Brandon didn't want to go the NY

Brandon would do whatever Richard told him to.

[quote]girls n gays that will eat that shit up with a spoon

Pics please.

How much you guys want to bet during the Met Gala red carpet Richard and especially Taron will "gay" it up together by being really really affectionate making it look like its a joke just for laughs but not realising what they are doing is actually an insult?

and Brandon not wanting to go to NY? the same Brandon who literally went everywhere with Sam Smith? Why would he miss such a great oppurtunity to attend the Met Gala or spend time with Richard in Ny? i think thats very out of character of him.

R64 why are you talking about Brandon like you know him... you have no idea what's out of character for him or not.

R64 first of all that was a completely different relationship. Nobody gave a shit about Sam Smith. Maybe he doesn't want that attention to take away from Richard work

Brandon is not one of Richard’s accessories. He’s his own person.

If you're expecting these two to walk hand in hand on a red carpet you're going to be very disappointed

[QUOTE]Brandon is not one of Richard’s accessories. He’s his own person.

They should recreate this Met Gala pose.

Im actually expecting Taron and Richard (as a joke) to walk hand in hand at Met Gala. they will do anything for Rocketman Promos

No, they won't do it. James Corden and Taron would, though.

Brandon never walked the red carpet with Sam Smith if I'm not mistaken at the Grammy he wasn't in the red carpet but he was there during the event, so maybe he doesn't like the attention.

Believe me, if Richard wanted him to do it, he’d do it.

Richard’s black tee shirt collection in the background. Brandon’s busy with laundry, can’t go to NYC.

Brandon post

Brandon really has classic Hollywood looks, I could see him playing James Dean in the future.

[quote]Richard's fans have no problem to ship him with Taron or talk about them, but with Brandon, they talk about him like he's obsessed with Richard or he's just a "friend", but obviously what he has with Brandon is totally different and they can't see it even if it's in front of their eyes.

Isn't it ironic?

A straight actor (Taron) can gaybaiting 24/7 and nothing happens; meanwhile, a gay/bi actor (Richard) won't bring his boyfriend (Brandon), as his date to the Met Gala.

And the dumb fangurls will start to ship 'Madderton'................ *yikes*

You say the fangirls are dumb but there's logic to their shipping. Actual gays/bis don't fulfil their fantasies. They want a tease with no chance of a big finish.

Richard

What is this outfit lmao? Did he really just wear another black suit like always but this time it's just ill fitting so he think it matches this year's theme that is "camp"?

He has filmed Rocketman and he's promoting that movie at that moment. Elton John was famous for his over the top and campy outfits. He really couldn't think of anything else? Or he's just like many people at the Met gala who don't really follow the theme because they just want to look pretty.

😂😂

The cut of those trousers make him look even more pocket sized. He's tricky to photograph outside of a studio setting. The safety pin is a cute touch.

lol at Richard's lameass outfit... maybe Brandon stayed home cause he was embarrassed for him

Laverne Cox looks GREAT. Celine looks like she may drop at any minute but she went for the theme. Kudos.

That tweet. Now I wonder if Richard didn't want to really wear a campy outfit because he thought it would look too gay? He didn'tt even wear a colorful suit but had to choose the manly color black?

Harry Styles is in no way fierce enough for that outfut. And I hate the word fierce.

Taron dropped the fucking ball with that choice. The gaybaiter has no clothes.

They’re saying on twitter that the attendee is assigned a designer and can pick from looks? Does anyone know if this is true? I do think he looks more edgy than Taron, but that’s not saying much. The black on black, the safety pin and tucked in trousers are not his normal style, but it’s definitely not camp. Maybe that’s as far as his stylist could push? The jacket also doesn’t seem to fit right. I was hoping for some color at least, but I guess he saves that for photo shoots.

Lol

Let’s ignore the suit for a moment and just enjoy.

R88 no I think he just doesn't have any fashion sense

His outfit is very boring and predictable! It shouldnt be a surprised since he wears the same thing in candids and talks about the same stories in interviews he's a gemini tho he is suppose to be exciting and creative!

Taron in similar style as Richard. Both by Rocketman stylist.

They should have done a take on the Lpuis Quatorze looks from Elton's 50th.

Like or not, Richard is always going to be conservative in his choices. That’s what he is comfortable with on the Red carpet. No man is going to outshine Billy Porter or Ezra Miller, who are way more confident and on theme.

They both should have just worn outfits from the movie. A perfect way to promote the movie and they would have surely been on theme with those outfits.

Billy Porter's look is extra but it doesn't hit the spot. Much much ado for little. Gaga - ever the tryhard, even if I like the pink looks.

Despite his lackluster outfit, Richard made it on to the official Met Gala 2019 IG! That has to mean something.

Im sorry but the only exciting thing that happen to Richard is being rumored to be in a relationship with Brandon and he and his PR took that away!!! Sigh!!!

R102 IG comments are not flattering

Frank Ocean is dressed as security?

Why didn’t Richard bring Brandon with him to the Gala?

Sigh.

Richard, the evening’s theme is “camp,” not “boring.”

I love him, but... :-(

Is he going for smoldering here, because... No.

R108 Really? I think he looks sexy as hell. It’s just that the suit is too conservative for the event

2 blacklashes today Richard's comments and his basic outfit for the MET GALA.

The only thing that could have save him if he only brought Brandon with him not at the pink carpet but at the after party.

Richard looks very handsome as always in his signature all black look, but too conservative for the "camp" themed Met Gala. Tonight was the night to gay it up!

Why would he bring Brandon to this mess? Richard probably wishes to be at home with his boyfriend!

R110 Ten people online =/= backlash

Strike a pose

R114 Ooh gurl, he looks so sassy there. Love it.

Lol

Brandon liked Luke Evans post about his past Met Gala outfits.

Even this Elton look would have worked while being wearable and not effeminate (if that was a worry).

Getting ready

I don think that sort of jacket at r118 is flattering to a petite man. Julian Morris sometimes goes for a similar look.

I actually really like his hair in these pics. Back in January at the awards shows, his hair was straightened and shellacked like a Ken doll’s. Here, he kinda has “big” hair, but it’s a lot softer and looser.

Yes, the hair works here. Bangs don't.

I wish he would have least rocked a harness to add more fuel to my fantasies

does anyone understand the safety pin? idgi

queens ! Richard is mortified that folks think he is dating that prisskits. .. he feels sorry for him and is trying to help a friend heal from a bad affair.

to ever think Richard would date such a ding a ling is preposterous !

Maybe he's wearing camp underwear...

Brandon liked the post of Richard from his stylist

I took the safety pin as a nod to punk.

Richard was dressed less conservatively than Liam Hemsworth.

R124 the stylist posted that it’s a C D (Christian Dior) brooch.

No one really believed Richard would dress camp, did they? He's too serious-minded, at least publicly, to have showed up in something OTT.

R129 and A Rod, who probably should pick up some award for most boring and unimaginative.

R131 Not CAMP-camp, but I was hoping he’d at least wear something (a vest, even?) with a pattern, or a different suit color besides basic black.

Brandon seems like he's part of Richard PR team he's very invested in him and quite supportive in everything he does.

The white streak in his hair is camper than his outfit.

[QUOTE]Brandon seems like he's part of Richard PR team he's very invested in him and quite supportive in everything he does.

Yeah he’s very supportive of him from behind his smartphone screen. What kind of relationship is this?

Even the very straight Harry Styles is camper than RM.

R137 Harry went past camp into trans.

I mean Richard could have tried harder but Taron is literally playing Elton Camp™ John and he fucking dropped the ball

Could be worse, I guess. I’ll take boring black over whatever the fuck Jared Leto is trying to be.

Of what I've seen, Patrick Schwartzenegger and Karlie Kloss are the biggest fails.

You know in a way Richard is giving the ultimate shout out to Susan Sontag with the white streak in his hair. So he’s being the embodiment of Notes on Camp.

[quote]the very straight Harry Styles

In what universe?

Brandon gets camp.

I’m sure he wishes that Richard allowed him to attend.

Plus One is not a given. I don't think Troye Sivan's bf got to go last year, only the after parties.

The eyes of Ezra Miller.

R144 He has nice legs.

Richard with Taron and Darren Criss.......

Nick Jonas went the opposite of Richard's all black by wearing virtually all white except for silver jewelry, a silver striped shirt and sparkly, silvery shoes.

r144 i have the gif of that moment but don’t know how to link it on my phone because it’s saved in my camera roll lmao! It’s one of my faves of him!

r148 his legs look even better in the gif but I don’t know how to link it from my camera roll. Ugh. Maybe someone on DL will find it lol.

R149 You can see how they went too conservative next to Darren... I mean they don't have to paint themselves up like Darren but the point is to stand out not fade into the background.

r144 and r148 i got my friend to post it on twitter lol. His legs are so nice and I’m jealous lol.

LOL......

Wasn't Sam Smith supposed to be there? Have there been any sightings?

I didn't see anything about Sam being there

R157 Bummer. I'm wondering if he and Richard have ever met. Does anyone know?

R149 they shouldn't have posed with Darren because it just shows up even more how boring they were in comparison. Darren looked great. At least there was one straight guy there who got it right.

You can tell by Taron’s face that he can sense being upstaged by Darren. He probably wanted something more extravagant but toned it down for some odd reason.

Darren Criss is a cutie. The giant bow is distracting, but I like the jacket.

I like Richard's outfit more every time I look at it... too bad it's completely off theme lol

I’m pretty sure Richard Madden is the type of guy who walks into a Baskin Robbins, asks the employees to recite all 50+ flavors, then orders a single scoop of vanilla ice cream in a cup,

Fat kids don't order one scoop.

R154 Richard must love sliding between those thighs.

GAG, the most adventurous part of Richard's outfit is that clown sized safety pin.

The heterosexuals win this round.

R75 Such a domesticated partner

Yawwwwwwn -zzzzzzzzzz

Has this been posted? (Worth reposting for the tongue...) It's from Brandon's filmmaker friend Kevin Rios who took R75.

Inside the Met Ball.

So Brandon like Ezra Miller's Met gala outfit and he's now following Cody fern who also looked fierced so now we know Brandon will prob wear something similar if he was only invited. I wonder what he really thinks about Richards boring suit.

So much for Brandon not wanting to be there.

Richard's suit just screams CLOSET.

so i hear actress margaret qualley(girl in pockadot dress) is there hanging on to Richard Madden *filrting* she's by his side and in every picture with him ....Hmmm i woulndt be surprised if she'll be Richard's new girlfriend bet will hear rumors soon.

Margaret Qualley is friends with Brandon. Richard met her through him and started following her on IG around the same time he started following Brandon's other friends like Asia Chow, Kevin Rios, Alisha Boe.

Shit nevermind, think I had my wires crossed on that last post... Brandon routinely likes all of Margaret's posts but she doesn't follow him, just Richard. Too many people to keep track of in this soap opera.

Did anyone wear a worse outfit than Richard?

She can have him, r174. After his Met Gala outfit, I'm sure we all wouldn't care probably not even Brandon himself.

Sam Smith got an invite to the Gala but declined. Probably too scared to meet Richard face to face.

If they do actually go out thn Ill be the first person to post about Margaret and Richard in the internet. She's the perfect candidate for him.

She's nothing special.

R174 she seems to know Richard for a while as they interact on Instagram, but I will say she seems awfully close with Jenifer annistons ex in the above photo

sweet

How did Richard and Margaret meet tho?Shes not part of Brandon's circle of friends nor is he with Richard and she's not one of Richard co-stars and there she is by his side at the Met Gala. Also Jennifer Aniston ex and her worked on a show together.

What about the after parties? I want to hear how Richard and Taron ended up at whatever 21st century version of the Anvil that exists in NYC these day being fisted and pissed on in the tubs!

R177 did you not see Patrick Schwarzenegger wearing his version of Blake Shelton drag.

R184 shes a famous person with a famous mom so she knows everyone and it's not shocking Richard is friends with someone he hasn't worked with

Friends or something more? I guessed we will see when the gossip starts about them soon.

R103 BINGO.

R is a boring straight dude and with this “Brandon fling” he killed two birds with one stone.

R188 she's been rumoured with another girl, actress kaitlyn dever, just look at her Instagram,

R190 omg my gaydar didn’t fail me this time

R189 you clearly misunderstood r103 they are saying the relationship is real just his PR aren't letting it be shown, you appear in every thread telling us you're laughing and that Richard is straight...

R191 I said rumoured so I'm not sure and I think she may be into guys too as it was said she was dating an older man not that long ago, I just can't remember who he was

top comment on the dailymail article of Richard's met ball look is about him and Brandon haha

He is so bland without Brandon by his side. His daily papped strolls by himself with the same ole black tee is yawn inducing. Like I said before he finally got exciting with Brandon, his name trended on twitter and he added more followers after those pics came out but his choice is to be vanila. what also got to me is on his stylist instagram it mentioned about preparing for his outfit and about how important it is that it should be masculine for a camp event like it was his idea and it seems like it bothered him that its camp and feminine that he needs to be manly for the event.

And people still think that the pap walk and speculation with Brandon didn't help him lol. His instagram follower increased drastically and the general public and tabloids were suddenly interested in pap pics of him afterwards (even if they were just masculine working out photos). And lol at the comment on the stylist's instagram. Sure, you go to the Met Gala with the theme "camp" and the most important thing is that your outfit is still masculine...

I don’t understand why he had to look “strong and masculine” like fuck off Gareth. The theme is camp. Richard should have let Brandon style him, he would have done a much better job.

R197 I think Richard wanted to look strong and masculine. He would have never worn anything else. I could imagine that he also thought that if those photos were reblogged without context by his fans (not knowing about the Met Gala's theme) everyone would think that he chose a campy outfit on his own to a normal red carpet. And he looks like he'd be the type to not like that. A colorful suit in a photoshoot might be ok because it's clearly recognizable that it's for a photoshoot when you look at the photos but a colorful or even slightly extravagant outfit in real life? Not with British "hunk" Madden.

I dont think its the stylist fault.. Richard didnt want to be precieve as camp in a camp theme gala he wants people to think of him as "strong and masculine" basically his stylist outed him as "I'll attend but no homo" crowd

R199 Richard was the one who was thinking along the lines of the pink suit when it came to the Gala months ago, remember him mentioning it in that interview? I don't think he's as rigid as you're saying he is. That said, his comfort zone is a simple dark suit, always, and I'm not sure why anyone got their hopes up very high for this stylist putting him in something wacky and wonderful- the same guy styled hi throughout awards season. He looked great, well-dressed and hot, but those looks were pretty safe then too. Even Bradley Cooper's terrible white suit look was more adventurous than anything this guy and Richard picked out over those months.

R183 Ahh, that's a lovely picture. His face was equally sweet too when you see it from this angle.

R200 A baby pink suit in the same style with the "diaper" pin would work.

R200 he said he was thinking along the lines of a pink suit but saying it and deciding to really wear it are two different things. And a simple pink suit isn't campy either lbr. It's also notable that he said that before the Brandon speculations. He now wants to look extra masculine. He would have never worn a pink suit. I'm fairly certain that he told his stylist to suggest masculine and safe outfits to him because he doesn't want to be seen as someone campy.

R103 the most interesting thing to happen to him, lol so true

R203 Hey, you totally could be right. But we don’t have a window into the guy’s brain, so I’m not gonna judge him like I actually know what he was thinking. It’s equally likely to me, going on most of his red carpet looks, that he just has really boring fashion sense and for him last night WAS pushing the envelope a bit. It was better than Taron’s at least, though that’s not saying much. I wish they’d just worn Rocketman costumes, myself. It would have been super fun and done a great job promoting the movie without them even opening their mouths!

His stylist comments is a confirmation that he has total control of his image and is aware of what people are saying about him He alone was responsible for the daily papped pictures of him being alone with no Brandon and being health consious : working out and drinking healthy to get ready for roles. It was a complete 180 from his first pics of him strolling with his boyfriend, not caring that he gained a bit of weight and smoking weed.

Since when does a black suit tells someones sexuality? I have to laugh. The guy never wore anything other than black, but now he did it to appear "straight". Thats literally all he ever wears. I thought he looked hot af even tho the outfit was off topic. Annnd some of u thinking the solo pap pics were staged is........ strange. No one outside the DL gives a shit abt overanalyzing a bunch of strolling pics. So imo thats just funny

some of you think way too into things, he was wearing a black doir suit because he was styled that way and if you look his stylist also styled Taron in black so it's not surprising

R177 Taron. lol

RM talked about how he wore a blue velvet suit to one of the award ceremonies like it was some crazy bold fashion move. At first I didn’t even know what he was talking about, and then I realized that it actually WAS a blue velvet suit, but it was so dark it looked black in the photos, and at first glance you couldn’t tell it was velvet, either. So I guess that’s about as wild as he’s willing to go, fashion-wise.

His hair was camp enough lol

[quote].Since when does a black suit tells someones sexuality? I have to laugh. The guy never wore anything other than black, but now he did it to appear "straight". Thats literally all he ever wears. I thought he looked hot af even tho the outfit was off topic. Annnd some of u thinking the solo pap pics were staged is........ strange.

The theme was camp. Wearing a black suit to such an event (if you are in promo mode for your next movie that is about a guy who is known for wearing campy outfits!!) is telling. Wearing a black suit at this specific event is definitely a deliberate choice to avoid having to wear an outfit that would look more extravagant and what some people would perhaps describe as a bit feminine. Normal black suits like this are always seen as masculine (it doesn't matter if Richard is really straight or not. What matters is that he wanted to appear masculine). And people saying a blue velvet suit was already bold for him at another event. This doesn't matter because the Met Gala isn't a normal event like the others. The Met Gala demands from you to wear something extravagant. Totally different than other red carpets.

And there are really still people who think his solo pap pics weren't staged lmao? No photographer camps out at the hiking trails to wait for celebrities to come by. They are always called when celebs get papped while running there. And note how paps never take photos of sweaty celebrities running. The photos are miraculously always from fresh looking and rested celebrities that just came from working out having bought their healthy drink. Richard got papped several times at different days. There's no way that he didn't call the paps for that.

It's disappointing when one comes to realize how identifying as "gay" has become such a taboo and shameful thing even more so than it was 10 years ago. Now men are part of the LGBT community or, queer or bisexual. Anything but gay.

Esp. Guys like Brandon are so obvious in their homophobia, I mean he isn't a lesbian or trans, so I assume he is either gay or bisexual, why not just say which rather than being deliberate vague about it. WOKE is just homophobia passed off as progressiveness.

He should have worn this!

R213 oh shut up

R213 What are you talking about? Brandon identifies as bisexual. Stop seeking validation from actors.

R213 Stop seeking validation of any kind.

Interesting that both he and even more Taron didn't go camp, looks like they have been in touch over the choice. This event was not for ex work promotion but to have fun, meet people, make contacts and maybe land a future gig. I am curious if R stays in NYC until trip to the Cannes that starts on 14th.Or will he go to the UK for few days before the festival.

R214 I thought the same thing but the kilt would be rainbow coloured and have some phallic symbol for the safety pin. Maybe even chunky heel boots.

The richardmaddenaddicted instagram has a post that today is the NY premiere of Rocketman. Anyone know anything?

Also, we have proof of life from Charlie from Kevin’s stories:

R221 Release dates: 16 May 2019 (Cannes) 22 May 2019 (United Kingdom) 31 May 2019 (United States)

R221 I don't think Charlie is there with them in LA, it doesn't look like Kevin's place

R223 That's Brandon's place, I mean Brandon and Richard's place! R221 Charlie is so cute!! There's an advanced screening of Rocketman on May 28 in New York, and it will premiere at Cannes on May 16.

R224 How can you tell it's B and R place?

The person who runs RichardMaddenAddicted can kiss my ass. Hypocritical homophobe.

R225 Because there is literally a huge canvas in the back of Charlie.

R223 I think it’s Brandon’s place? The story of Charlie was around the same time as the picture on Brandon’s instagram (that Kevin took). They were hanging out with Kevin and his roommate. That’s Charlie’s crate in the background and a photo of Charlie on top?

R228 It doesn't look the same

Hmmm idk then. Kevin posted the story, so it’s got to be either his place or B/R apartment. Why would Kevin have a big picture of Charlie? I also thought the picture of B was at his place and seeing the photo above, it’s not (different rug and tv stand) That pink artwork is in both pics though (above and the Brandon one).

Maybe Brandon is going to live Charlie with Kevin so he can travel with Richard in Europe? I mean if it's not his place, why there's Charlie's crate and a picture of him there?

R230 I don't see any pink artwork in Kevin's photo? R231 I think the person who is watching Charlie sent this pic to Kevin or Brandon. Charlie is with Brandon's family, so it would explain the artwork and the crate.

R75 and R229 the pink lady artwork seem the same R233

I wasn't on Instagram last night did Brandon like any photos of Richard at the met gala?

R226 the person who runs Richard Madden updates on twitter can kiss my ass too, another huge homophobe.

R234 He liked the one from the stylist

R233 Yes, it is B and R place. But in the pic, which Kevin posted R221, there is not pink artwork.

Was Kevin the one who used to live with Brandon? I can’t remember who his roommate was.

R238 yes, Kevin is his ex-roomie, and one of his closest friends.

R237 the photo that Kevin took of B at R75 and the video of Charlie at R229 have the same artwork but the other things (rug, tv stand) are different. I think the recent pic of Brandon at R75 is Kevin and his roommate’s place and the video of Charlie at R229 is B/R place. They just have the same painting.

R238 Kevin and Brandon used to be roomies. Now, Kevin lives with a girl named Chloe. On a previous thread, someone said that they are all in the same building though with Alisha and that guy that was at Coachella with Kaia Gerber (can’t remember his name but he is friends with them all and has white/blond hair) Someone also said B used to room with Alisha, but I don’t know when that fits in.

R238 I think they have know each other since school days, both are from Miami.

Richard didn't post anything about the time gala do you think he will post about met ball?

Charlie is alive! I was so worried!

R242 Probably not because he wasn't exactly lauded for his outfit. But if he shows up on any best dress list (although he shouldn't with his boring off theme outfit) he'll probably post about it.

R240 I think Brandon lived with Alisha when they were filming 13RW for at least one of the seasons? Couldn’t tell you more detail than that though, if I’m even right about that!

who is who?

Lol!!

R248 I wonder how he acts when he's with his friends though, I don't think it's related to his sexuality necessarily but he certainly likes to present as quite masculine during publicity appearances

R249 Yeah, I keep thinking back to that interview with one of his schoolmates in which he described Richard as camp and flamboyant and “definitely not a ladies man.” I realize of course that people change over time but I doubt RM has done a complete 180 from that.

Lately, it seems, it’s almost like he’s been channeling some David Budd (Bodyguard) into his public persona. Still trying hard for those macho lead roles, I guess.

looks like Richard's gonna be in LA on the 9th

R251 I wish Brandon will go with him

R252 Brandon lives in LA so I assume he will be in the city? Unless you mean go to the fyc q&a with him which...makes no sense

R252 People don't bring partners to these awards campaign events, ever. Richard could come out 10 minutes from now and it still wouldn't be the kind of thing Brandon would go with him to. It's just not what you do. You're not there to mingle as a couple, it's all about getting people to try and vote for your performance.

It's so obvious that most posters here are straight women who have a very primitive relationship with male bisexuality.

As a gay man who has had numerous experiences with bisexual men and have listened to the similar experiences my gay friends have had with bisexual men, let me just tell you no bisexual man is going to risk a career in any profession for a same sex relationship let a lone in the movie industry which is still aggressively anti- gay male.

Most bisexual men greatly value straight relationships over that of same-sex relationships anyway, straight privilege, especially in the film industry is a real thing, so no bisexual man with the capability of being in a genuine romantic and sexual relationship with a women is going to throw a successful career in the film industry for a same sex fling.

No bisexual actor would bother to come out as anything, why would he? He'd have legitimate straight relationships and screw guys on the side, it's pretty much how all bi guys act.

My take, Brandon is gay.

Richard is straight and not a homophobic bigot, therefore and genuinely only a roommate to Brandon or Richard is gay and sick of having to hide who he is has resolved to live openly while quietly with his boyfriend.

R255 nah I'm gay and I think he's probably bi

R254 He can go there to support him

Quite a few couples on the SAG-AFTRA red carpet, no?

Richard...

R255 Maybe Brandon is the love of his life and he will risk his career for his happiness? You know it happens sometimes to fall in love.

R258 explain?

That justjared link defaults to the main page. But you can find pics on the site of Jamie Bell and Kate Mara, Chris O'Dowd and his Brit journalist wife, Ray Liotta and... etc. on the SAG-AFTRA red carpet.

R262 okay and your point is?

R262 I just searched SAG-Aftra on their site and nearly all that came up were the people who were going to be involved in the actual speaking engagements or whatever?

R256, I don't agree. No bisexual actor who is riding a career high from being a leading man in one of the biggest or most talked about TV shows in recent times and is on the cusp of being cast in the next exceedingly heterosexual role of James Bond, isn't going to be that open about a gay relationship, even going as far as not denying it in the press.

Sorry but I think you are being naive about both male bisexuality and the way the film industry works. I mean you maybe right I'm I'm just a cynic.

Mea culpa, I assumed the link above was to SAG-AFTRA awards, or whatever - not a plain old talkback.

R264 Is the event Richard is going to a red carpet?

R233, R has his own apartment since March. According to The Jackal Magazine: “Next on his to-do list: get his LA flat in order and start looking at scripts”. The interview took place in London at the latest in late March.

I found Charlie! He's moved in with Richard.

R267 No, I don’t think so. There are different kinds of events run by SAG. The kind that Richard and Keeley are doing isn’t the kind a couple steps out at. You do the Q&A, and you try to win over possible voters. Maybe you shake hands and take pictures and mingle. You try to make people love you enough to vote for you and you try to make them want to vote for your performance. That’s it. Nobody is saying Brandon COULDN’T go to support him, there’s no law against it. The fact is, partners mostly just don’t go to these things. There's no need. It's just a work thing where they answer questions they've mostly answered before and try to make people want to vote for their show and their performances.

R283 some people have said that interview is from February and he's been spotted walking Brandon's dog in April so I'm not sure you're right

*R268 oops

R265 Um, isn't the common complaint around here that he ISN'T being nearly open enough?! People have been giving out left and right that he shows no signs of actually coming out. (And I don't think he's about to myself, though I don't think he's nearly as craven as some on here accuse him of being either.) Being ambitious and not wanting to come out for his own reasons, be they work-related or privacy-related or both or something else entirely does NOT mean he can’t be bi and in a relationship with Brandon.

R271 Yeah, I agree. I suppose it’s possible that he moved out recently, but in the solo pap pics taken last week he was still in the same neighborhood he was living with Brandon.

R273, walking B's dog isn't proof. He was looking for real estate in LA in December.

I actually think he is pretty daring and transparent as he is r273, compared to most Hollywood actors in his position, as in he has the potential to be A-list.

Yea that interview was done on feb but i do believe he moved out recently but is staying in the same area, thats prob the reason we dont see pics of him with Brandon anymore. Maybe it is true that they were just housemates and not anymore...its as simple as that.

R273, yeah, but he had his car keys with him, so most likely drove there. I'm pretty sure the place he found isn't too far away. The pap pic with the dog was Feb 21, the others with B in April.

R278 there were no pap pics of him with a dog in February as far as I know and a fan met him in April with Brandon's dog in a grocery store in LA, they posted a pic with him where you can see the lead and then the pap photos with Richard, Brandon and the dog together were also from April?

Brandon has been liking a ton of Met gala pics. Poor guy totally wanted to go. If they had admitted to being together I’m sure he would have been invited.

R280 untrue and nearly every celebrity on Instagram is liking tons of met gala pics lol

R273 I agree with you in that- I think he's been pretty damn brave for someone with a career as hot as his is at the moment, especially as he's been working to put himself in the position he's finally in for years now. It's just seemingly not the common viewpoint around here.

The pictures with the weed and the red shirt pap pics have the same building in them. I figured that was their bldg as RM is going into the building in the red shirt ones. The Jackal interview was the same time he was at the BAFTAs (early February). He’s not going to say he’s moving in with his boyfriend. I think the quote is something like he’s getting his flat in order. He probably still had to get things in order to move in with Brandon; he did move overseas after all.

R279 There was a picture of him out walking Charlie by himself in Feb, but it wasn't a pap pic, it was just a pic taken by a fan.

Maybe he was just trying to make Douglas jealous, Douglas attended the Gala last night, but choose to hang out with Cameron Dallas instead.

Sorry "chose".

R279 In late February, someone (probably just a fan and not a pap) snapped a pic of Richard walking Brandon’s dog. A week or two later the tabloids ran the story about him staying with his “pal” Brandon in the U.S.

R282 Oops, that was for R276

Funnily this is the first time Richard & Douglas attended the same event and didn't hang out together at it?

He found an apartment and he moved out.

R255 I agree with most of what you said, except your last sentence.

[quote]Richard is straight and not a homophobic bigot, therefore and genuinely only a roommate to Brandon or Richard is gay and sick of having to hide who he is has resolved to live openly while quietly with his boyfriend.

Why can't he be bi? I think the most likely scenario here is that his past girlfriends were not beards and that Brandon is his current boyfriend. Brandon is out and proud, he would not want to hide a relationship. This is probably his first serious relationship with a guy. He has probably hooked up with guys in the past, but only been in relationships with women. If he cares about Brandon and want this to work then he has to be at least semi-open about the relationship. I don't think this disproves that he's bi.

Well then r290, that was the biggest waste of time since Footballers in Love.

The dog picture on Feb 21 was not pap, my bad. A guy took it from his car window and thought at first that it was Zac Efron.

[Quote]Brandon has been liking a ton of Met gala pics. Poor guy totally wanted to go. If they had admitted to being together I’m sure he would have been invited.

Well, this is what happens when you date a bisexual closet case. I don't even feel bad for Brandon anymore. It's his own fault for agreeing to be Richard's secret.

R289 I don't know about you all, but I've seen almost no pictures of Richard that weren't solo pictures on the red carpet. A few with Darren Criss, a couple with Sophie Turner... we don't really know how he spent his whole night or who he spent it with.

The rumors were true

There is the possibility Brandon who is in the industry and aware of the workings of the business, would fully understand Richard's need to appear straight for career purposes. I don't think Brandon gave him any ultimatum, and even if he did why would Richard a bisexual man who has only dated women accept it for a fling that according to most posters here is already over or at the very least fizzling out as I type.

R296 which rumors?

R296 marvel were said to be looking for an lgbt actor but that could just be noise

haha! I remember The Footballers in Love thread(s) another one is 4 wasted yrs on Lee Pace and Richard Armitage aka Richlee. Atleast we had those 2 weeks of April!! Ha!

R296 Go for him!

R299 wasn't it for an Asian actor?

R296 Is this the Marvel movie with the gay superhero?

The role is called ikaris

If Richard wants to come out, maybe he has convinced his PR teams to help him come out as the first out gay leading man for a Gen Z audience. Therefore the photos of Brandon and he were staged to ease him out cumulating in being cast as the first out gay superhero.

omg!!! Wow if this is true than is that the reason was pictured with Brandon? it was planned all along? Is he going to come out as bi??? im getting excited again!

if he comes out and gets a big marvel check good on him really haha

Dammit. It's not the gay role he's in talks for.

R308 Sorry, I should clarify. I don't THINK it's the gay role he's in talks for. It's said to be Hercules that will be the gay role. He's in talks for Ikaris. This movie, according to the Hollywood Reporter, is said to centre around Ikaris and his love story with Sersi- a woman.

No doubt Angie will report back to us exactly where R fits.

Nevermind. I guessed we have to face reality he's deff not coming out thn look what happened to Jeremy Renner he also had a longterm roomate and Marvel came along and now he'll forever be in the closet .....like i said before it was a glorious 2 weeks but once he gets this Marvel role his life will forever change and Brandon will be gone and forgotten.

Ehhh... Marvel's been on a mission to embrace diversity more. They don't stack up well to the DC movies in that area, and it hasn't gone unnoticed. Maybe Richard could be their first gay superhero actor rather than their first gay superhero. It has to happen at some point, right? I dunno. We'll just have to wait and see.

Lol Someone here is very desperate to portray Richard as straight as an arrow!! Face it Richard is gay for Brandon!! They live together, why people close to him would run the story of him and Brandon being roommates if it wasn't true and just for a few weeks? I think if their relationship is as serious as it seems he'll come out.

How to dress camp, honey. Granted, TLo has a high bar, they're mad RuPaul didn't go in drag...

...but they loooooooved Cardi B...

R154, Huh - what exactly does Brandon have between those thighs?

IMO Janelle Monae wins it....

He cant be the "first gay superhero actor" his role is center around his love for a woman. So he needs potential audienced to be convinced that he is straight. You guys are too optimistic...actors are their to sell a brand /movie Richard will go deeper in the closet than ever before!

R316, that R221

If anything he will come out as bi / queer / pan / etc not gay

R318 People here have already been giving out that he's not coming out. That doesn't seem to have deterred his relationship with Brandon one bit so far. Maybe this won't either. Or maybe they'll end it 10 minutes from now. Who even knows. The endless doom and gloom pronouncements about their future are getting REALLY old. Why not just wait and see? None of us are psychic. We can't actually KNOW what's coming.

Giving out?

R320 At least he has a better chance of coming out with Marvel than he would as James Bond.

R323 true and even if he's not the gay character it's going to be a lgbtq friendly film so he can still come out

This photo choice...

R325 It was deleted, what photo did they use?

Shangela.

[quote]Maybe Richard could be their first gay superhero actor rather than their first gay superhero.

EXACTLY. The articles have been saying that Marvel is looking for an OPENLY GAY ACTOR -NOT a gay CHARACTER- to lead The Eternals

Report: Marvel Wants an Openly Gay Actor to Lead The Eternals

R326 a headshot of Kate Winslet haha

R328 more recent reports and inside info say they are testing Asian males for a gay role and want an out actor

I'm really baffled how one decent role (that was ok acting but not really great acting) suddenly gives an actor so many follow up roles just because the show got a lot of media attention. Aren't there suddenly any British actors in his age range anymore? He immediately got offered Rocketman after Bodyguard. Then the other movie with several A-listers that's filming in England at the moment and now a Marvel role. And you know he didn't have to audition for any of those movies. He got them offered. His acting didn't suddenly become Oscar worthy, there are plenty of other actors who have the same acting skills or are even better. But he's the one who gets showered with role after role.

My theory is that he wanted to have the lead role in that Marvel movie and that's why we suddenly got the arranged pap pictures with Brandon. Marvel was looking for an LGBT actor for that role so Richard showed that he perhaps could be bi and would be a suitable candidate. But then a few weeks later we got the rumours that Marvel had decided to search for an LGBT Asian actor for the lead role so it was impossible for Richard to be cast anymore. And suddenly we got all those single pap walks, no Brandon in sight anymore. I called it from the beginning. The timeline fits perfectly. He deliberately left it ambiguous so that if he didn't get the gay lead role that he could backpaddle and act very straight again.

Madden as a gaysian? I don't see it.

Rocketman is s supporting part, though.

But it's not unprecedented. Colin Firth was propelled to ladies' choice via his role as Mr. Darcy. Some roles/projects give someone a relevance that echoes down the years.

Hollywood is still a very homophobic place.

It's hilarious that some people here still think that Richard has been pretending to be gay -and using Brandon- to get the Marvel role, lol

They had been together for months and no one knew it till these pap pics surfaced in April:

I have the impression that we are going to get pap pics of them kissing and touching each other, there's a lot of attention around him right now, with the Marvel role it's the right time to come out

R331 are you ignoring that he won a golden globe? I'm sure that helped him quite a bit as it made Hollywood know who he was

Wow, some people really need to take off the tinfoil hats.

Madden is handsome, talented, and he starred in a hit TV show. (More than one hit show, actually, but GoT was/is an ensemble cast, whereas he was the lead in Bodyguard.) Why wouldn’t that lead to bigger roles?

R331 he has been cast in two things months apart calm down

The gay role is Hercules, who is bi in the comics. Richard is playing a straight character, Icarus.

R336, R337 yes, that's why he moved to HW in the first place to look for work, capitalizing on his success

R337 Because there are plenty of great actors who are in perhaps much better but less recognized shows who don't get that opportunity. And there are plenty of actors whose acting is better than Richard's. And him getting big role after role after just his Golden Globe is a lot. Even for a Golden Globe winner those offers in just a few months are insane.

...,

R328: They want an openly gay actor to play a gay character.

Wanting an openly gay actor to play a straight character just don't make sense, one thing is to chose a gay actor for a straight role because you think he is the best for that role and other just looking only for gay actors to play a straight role, that's simply absurd

R341 you are obviously very sold on whatever you believe but two roles in two months isn't insane especially as 1917 is probably a smaller supporting role if he hasn't filmed yet.

R334 Those are the same people that claim that Brandon is obsessed with his straight roommates lol! They are a couple and I think that Richard is just waiting for the right time to come out, he's doing it in small steps, first the roommate's news, the pap pics, he started to like Brandon's post on ig, the interview when he said “It’s a really terrible route to go down if we start restricting people’s casting based on their personal lives", the guardian that openly mention Brandon, I mean something is moving, it's only a matter of time.

R341 So true. Plus this is OFTEN how Hollywood works- they cast people who are doing well or on a hot streak. So many actors have talked about it, how getting one part that made people see them often lead to them getting offered multiple other ones. The hardest part can be getting that one role that makes people sit up and take notice. After that Hollywood LOVES to cast them in stuff.

Sorry, R346 was meant as a reply to R344

R322 I said that he wanted to have the lead role before Marvel decided to go with an Asian guy ;). It was first only announced that they would search for a LGBT actor. Only a lot later (after we already had the arranged pap pics with Brandon) did they announce that they had decided to go with an Asian guy.

And I have to emphasize that I don't think that Richard must be straight and it was all just a ploy to get the role. But the timing of the published and arranged photos is certainly suspicious. Perhaps he's bi and in a relationship with Brandon, perhaps he's straight and they were just playing it up. But what is sure is that the pap pics were arranged and the timing would fit exactly with the casting of the The Eternal roles. But now that the lead will be an Asian they offered him another role, the one of a straight character. So Richard can happily go back to pretend that there's nothing specifically between him and Brandon. He can leave it ambiguous, whereas he would have come out publicly as bi had he gotten the lead role of the gay character.

And if Rocketman becomes a huge hit...

Madden is rumored to be playing Icarus, a straight character. They are looking for an out, Asian actor to play the role of James. The role in 1917 is not a leading role. He was cast in Rocketman prior to Bodyguard airing, so Bodyguard hype had nothing to do with him getting Rocketman. 1917 and possibly Eternals, however, those are thanks to Bodyguard.

[quote] two roles in two months isn't insane

Two roles, one in a movie with several A-list stars and one in a huge Marvel film isn't insane?

I thought the gay asian actor search was for the love interest rather than the main character?

[quote]Madden is rumored to be playing Icarus, a straight character. They are looking for an out, Asian actor to play the role of James.

Noone is denying that. Everyone is saying that he probably wanted to have the role BEFORE they announced that it should be an Asian actor. The first announcement from Marvel about the role was only that they wanted an LGBT actor to play the role, nothing about the ethnicity. Only a long time after that did they announce that they had decided that they wanted an Asian actor.

[quote]Wanting an openly gay actor to play a straight character just don't make sense,

WHY???

That's what Richard has been saying in his last interview: straight actors should be allowed to play gay characters AND GAY actors should be allowed to play straight roles (right now, they are not).

at the very least it's nice that the rumors of him and Brandon didn't cost him the role

R354 because it doesn't make sense at all. You don't make a cast of only gay actors to play a straight role.

And i make very clear in my post that it makes perfect sense to chose a gay actor to play a straight role because he is the best to the role, what doesn't make sense it's make a cast only with gay actors to play a straight character

Why would the rumours cost him such a role lol? A role in a movie that will show the first gay character played by a LGBT actor in the Marvel universe? They would certainly not deny to cast anyone just because of bi speculations.

OK, the conspiracy theorists win.

Richard is not getting an “insane amount” (?) of work because of Bodyguard, GoT or Rocketman. It’s not because of his GG win or the fact that he’s an Emmy contender. It has nothing to do with all the press he’s been getting in high-profile magazines and newspapers. And it certainly isn’t because he works hard or is talented and extremely easy on the eyes.

Nope. It’s because he’s sucked every dick in Hollywood. In fact, rumor has it his Hoovering skills are unparalleled.

Carry on!

R353 I'm sure Richard knew the gay role was for an Asian actor because unlike us he would have say the casting notice... he would hardly have tried to get an Asian part and was probably always going for the ikaris role

R342 Brandon has already liked it! He loves his boyfriend very much!

....

R359 Lol, why so salty? And people said that it was because Bodyguard was all over the press and because of his Golden Globe. But that doesn't mean that his acting suddenly got better than before. People were saying that it's "insane" that an actor suddenly gets offered so many roles just because his show (and consequently the actor) has big buzz. In Hollywood getting big roles is most often dependant on how much media attention your show got and not dependant on your acting skills.

R343 Wanting an openly gay actor to play a straight role doesn’t make sense? So Brandon, doesn’t play a straight character when he is into men?

[quote]I'm sure Richard knew the gay role was for an Asian actor because unlike us he would have say the casting notice... he would hardly have tried to get an Asian part and was probably always going for the ikaris role

I doubt that. Had Marvel included that in their first casting notice there's no way that that wouldn't have leaked. It seems that they had first decided that they only wanted a publicly out actor for the role. And later on they decided that they would further narrow it down and that they would like an Asian actor for the role.

R363: I know my english is bad, but come one, you can't be so dense. What i say its very simple, you don't chose only between gay actors if the role is straight, because that just doesn't make sense, why are you going to limit the guys trying to get that role that way?

Other different thing (and it's the third time i post this) it's to cast an openly gay actor for a straight role because he is the best for that role.

R364 it did leak...that's how we know?

OMG wait. Didn't he just recently give an interview about superhero movies and that he would only do them for money or something like that because he doesn't like them??

Was this posted?

R361 LOL!

R366 It only leaked because it was a new addition to the casting requirements. At the beginning they weren't searching for an Asian guy.

Once again....... the articles say that Marvel is looking for an OPENLY GAY ACTOR TO LEAD "THE ETERNALS".

LEAD. OPENLY GAY ACTOR.

The lead character in The Eternals - and that Richard will probably, play- is Ikaris, who is straight.

A Gay Actor for a Straight character.

R371: And i repeat that doesn't make sense at all.

So the studio is going, i have this straight role but hey, only gay actors can apply. That's ridiculous

And of course there's nothing new with a gay actor playing a main role on a superhero movie, Ian McKellen did it in a good bunch of X Men films

Richard isn't openly gay. So why are people arguing about that? At most he would be rumoured to be bi. But with his latest single pap walks, the tabloids miraculously backing offmentioning Brandon and his latest overall behaviour trying to seem very masculine he certainly wants to portray a certain image.

R371 Go Richard!! I'm rooting for you!! The FIRST LEAD OPENLY GAY ACTOR!! He's going to come out in a few weeks, they are going to be open with their love! I'm waiting for the pics!

It isn't the gay leading role he's supposed to play. The lead role is played by an Asian guy. Richard's role is a straight one.

Does anyone remember the interview where Richard talked about superhero movies and that he didn't deem those movies as good movies? It was linked to in one of the previous threads but I can't remember when exactly.

Chalamet said the same and he tried to get the Spiderman role

R378 when he was about 19 before he was famous lol completely unrelated

R376 I'm pretty sure the out asian actor they're looking for is for the love interest of the gay superhero, not THE gay lead. But yeah, seems certain Richard's role is a straight one.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R367 No he didn't. He just said he would surely do hero movie.

I know he did the interview months ago, but it's kind of hilarious it came out so shortly before this news leaked, and probably WHILE Marvel was considering him.

He reminds me of Kristen Stewart before coming out she was openly dating women and then a few years later she came out maybe Madden comes out too.

R379: It's totally related, it's thinking one thing and doing the opposite.

In fact Madden didn't say anything negative about the superhero movies, just the truth the most attractive thing about playing a superhero is the check

And of course everybody has the right to change their mind

Is he cast or in talks to be cast? Articles are 50/50 either way.

It was the Jackal magazine article where he talked about superhero films. Said he would do it for the money so he could do low budget films the rest of the time. I didn’t take it in a disparaging way, but some people said that it made him sound money hungry.

R382 Yes he did. It's in the interview. He said "We all have to eat, and I'm sure at some point I'll take a job for the money,' he said... 'I'll put on some Lycra, I'll be a superhero"

Only that he surely has enough money now and doesn't need to sign on to a superhero movie for that lol

I don't think Madden's role is the lead of that film. It says Ikaris is a member of the group. So I don't think the whole back and forth over if he's gay playing straight even matters here because it doesn't look like he's the gay character OR the lead.

Here’s the original article, not the DM cut and paste. The superhero portion is toward the end.

Richard's role is Ikaris and it's Cersei's love interest. It IS the lead role. There are many lead roles in Eternals, not just one or two. Herculus is one of the lead roles too and it is supposed to be gay role. So they will cast openly gay actor for Herculus role.

There were rumors Alexander Skarsgard would be Herculus but it seems Marvel chosed Richard.

There can't be many lead roles in a project before some "leads" get demoted to supporting or cameos. For example, Hugh Jackman was more of a/the lead than James Marsden in X-Men.

392 Richard is not playing Hercules. He’s playing Ikarus. Or so the trades are reporting.

Shit, I meant R392 in my post

R394 Oh I wrote it wrong. Alexander was considered IKARUS, not Herculus.

R390 That article say exactly the same as the Dailymail article because those Dailymail quotes I quoted were direct quotes from Richard that he said in that interview.

In eternals comics there are many main characters. Maybe Jolie is actual "lead" role but eternals has multi superhero roles.

Jolie, Skarsgard, Luke evans, Millie bobby brown, Sofia butella were initially rumored castings.

I think we can just say that Richard's character will most likely be an important character. The gay actor they're searching for would play the main lead role. But Richard's Icarus would most likely be a main character that will be prominently featured as well.

It's been awhile since I've read these thread's. Any new news? So Richard at the gala and Brandon at home?

They have been pretty quiet today on ig, maybe they are spending some time together.

This is the reason why i belive Richard will never come out when the news will officially announced that he will get the Marvel Role: A role where he plays a love interest of another super hero woman:

A top-level talent manager who spoke on condition of anonymity put it in blunter terms. “It’s all about perception. They want to believe that the lead guy is fucking the lead woman,” he said. “If a studio is backing a film with a ton of money … they want everyone who is buying tickets to believe that that’s in fact the case. Sadly, if we know that in real life the lead guy is screwing around with another guy, the fear is that it may hurt ticket sales.”

So have we collectively concluded that the reason RM had his hands gripping BF's neck because they smoked a joint and RM was feeling dizzy because he's a cannabis virgin? Or that he was high and relaxed momentarily that he didn't care about being mildly affectionate in public?

R404 I’m pretty sure the consensus is they’re dating. The main argument now is how RM will handle this new focus of attention.

he looks drunk here

They also both look about 40 it's so unflattering

Richard looks so rough for someone who is 32.

Just curious, had Brandon every played any adult roles (not a high schooler) ?

I would’ve never thought he’d be the biggest breakout from GoT.

Don't speak too soon.

Wasn't it mentioned that one of the Asian actors Marvel was rumored to be looking at for Eternals was Conrad Ricamora.

R413 yes

Brandon spotted at an ariana grande concert in LA (presumably not with Richard as that doesn't seem his sort of thing but who knows!)

Richard is British. It's in his DNA to be a rough looking 32

I was sceptical of the ones who said that Richard should come out for Brandon, but now I think so to. I mean, I wish he adresses the rumors soon, because the ambiguity is just a torture

So the theory that it all was to get the Eternals role is true ?

A torture to you, perhaps, but it doesn't appear to be torturing him at all.

R418 No

The reason fans love Tom Hiddleston so much is because he is so passionate about playing Loki. You can tell he loves playing him. At the end of the day people want to see the actors care about the character they're playing. Richard's fame and money reason usually doesn't go over well with them.

R375 Wishful thinking.

R418 he isn't playing the gay character and hasn't come out as 'openly' anything so no.

Quote from an old interview: There Is Only One Place in My Place and That Is First Place. If Richard Madden weren’t acting, he’d be a “shy, fat kid living in Scotland with no girlfriend,”

Join the club, Richard.

I want Richard to come out just to shut the homophobes up

R426 you do realise if he comes out a lot more people will be homophobic towards him as an openly lgbtq person? It's important to me that you know that.

These threads are slowing down. They won't be seen together again.

well Brandon just liked another photo of Richard on Instagram so I'm not worried

[quote]he isn't playing the gay character and hasn't come out as 'openly' anything so no.

I still think the theory that the staged pap photos were for the Marvel role is true. Only because you do this sort of thing, hunting for the role, doesn't mean that you automatically have to get it. They did those photos to show that Madden could be bisexual and that if he got cast he could come out. They laid the groundwork to even be considered in the casting for the role. Had he gotten the gay character role he would have come out publicly and they could have pointed back at the pap pictures and rumours saying "see, I only wasn't ready to come out before but now I am".

Even if the gay role is now supposed to be an Asian guy (is it really only one gay character or are there two gay characters in the movie, Hercules and his Asian lover? Noone seems to know exactly), the element that the character should be an Asian guy was added later, during the casting process when Marvel narrowed down the casting. Before that it was only known that they were searching for a LGBT actor.

It can't be a coincidence that suddenly Brandon and Richard couple photos were published while Marvel was in the middle of casting for it's first LGBT lead in a movie. The timing is too suspicious. And we know now that Richard was definitely interested to be in the movie of course. But he didn't get the gay lead now so they offered him a different part in the movie. That means he doesn't actively have to fuel the bisexuality speculations anymore (it's not needed anymore for this role) and he can be back to being photographed alone doing straight guy things. And "being in talks" means that they already offered him the role. They just have to finalize the contract. So the timeline with couple pap pics and suddenly backing off and being photographed alone (after he realized the gay lead role was out of the questions) fits perfectly.

R430 it all makes sense now. It was actually one of the first theories, but the fact that timeline really fits perfectly is convincing. We’ll have to wait and see, and if no other photos come out, it means your theory is true. :(

or he was never up for the gay role and you're reaching?

R432 Yeah, seems like a LOT of reaching to me. Seems more likely he's just living his life.

He'll never come out, we will never see pap pics of Brandon and Richard ever again and he also moved out of Brandon's apartment. I hope he denies the relationship soon during rocketman promotions so I can finally be free!!

The couple pics were clearly staged. They knew what they were doing. And even if someone doesn't want to believe that the first pics were staged and believes they were caught accidentally. Richard and Brandon walked the exact same location together again later and got papped again. How do you explain that? Either those paps were called again or even if they weren't called, Brandon and Richard knew exactly that they'd wait for them at this location and didn't mind getting papped.

But suddenly they manage to not get papped together at all anymore. Richard gets papped multiple times working out around the same are. Clearly calling the paps. And even Brandon gets randomly papped while getting out of his car (there's no other possibility than that the paps had been tipped off to wait for him at the location).

If Brandon and Richard had been just papped once together I'd be willing to believe the theory that they were surprised and started to hide afterwards as they didn't want people do discover their relationship. But they got papped again (and could have avoided that very easily). That means that they wanted to get papped. And the timing with the superhero casting is pretty telling imo.

The reason those first pics caught the eye of many people is because Brandon's last pap pics was always with Sam Smith so most identify him as Sam's ex before that he was never been candidly papped before. If it was any other guy with Richard it wouldnt have been a big deal.

pap pics staged or not, it is very unlikely he was pretending not to be straight as that would not help his career in the long run... so this won't be the last we will hear of it

R435 Most of the pics were taken in and around their neighbourhood. And I do believe the first lot were absolutely not staged, and I don't believe the pictures where they went to the restaurant with Jamie Bell and his wife either. (They didn't just run into them on the street- photo caption information on a photo site said they were seen leaving the restaurant as a group.) Jamie and Kate are followed and photographed ALL the time. There's new pictures of them up on the Daily Mail far, far more than there is new pictures of Richard. Clearly Richard and Brandon CAN go unfollowed by altering what they do and not going to any of their usual haunts, but maybe for a while they simply didn't think they should have to? I don't know. You clearly are very convinced of your theory, and you surely could be right. But I also think there's absolutely a possibility that once those first few photos caused SUCH a stir, there was a demand to follow and find them after that, and if they knew where they lived and where they were likely to be it wasn't going to be hard to get new pictures of Richard.

And I agree with R437 - no way would it make sense for an actor on the cusp of the A-list who plays very traditionally masculine straight roles, and who never had even a whisper of gay rumours around him before this, to pretend to not be straight for ONE role that there was every chance he wouldn't get anyway (and didn't, as it turns out.)

It doesn't make any sense, what is Brandon going to gain in all of this? It's Richard that gained publicity, followers on Instagram and the role, but Brandon gained just hate from Richard's fans. Before all of this Richard was straight as a narrow, now he's going to have gay speculation follow him forever and he did all of this just for a role? Come on! And I think they'll get papped together again.

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R438 is right. The pap pics with Brandon were not staged. The role he is in talks for Eternals is not for the out gay actor. If the trades are to be believed (and the script could have changed) his character is the romantic interest of the character Jolie is rumored to play. Keep in mind for all the actors that have been reported to be in talks for this movie, Marvel has not officially announced they’ve cast them nor have they made an official announcement on the roles either. Someone with some knowledge leaked that Madden is playing Ikarus.

R441 no, most marvel castings say in talks at first, such a the recent black widow castings lol it's not a weird thing to be posted and certainly not a 'leak' if it was first reported by the wrap and not something like Reddit

(And immediately backed up with extra information by variety and thr)

R441 Did you completely ignore that it doesn't matter which role he could get now? He most likely wanted to have the gay lead role in the beginning. That's why he presented himself as a maybe suitable candidate for the role. He didn't get the lead role so they offered him another role now. But all those pap shenanigans came right at the time when Marvel was casting for the movie and the lead role. And people can't believe that someone would do that for "just" a Marvel role? Seriously, it's Marvel. The money making machine that also gives you plenty of exposure. Richard seems very career oriented (he's hustling like noone else to get this Emmy nom). It wouldn't be too far fetched.

Also, the normal public still sees him as a straight guy. Brandon and he left it ambiguous enough so that a couple rumour is easy to deny. And most people also aren't even aware of Brandon in the first place. It wasn't risky for him to have those first photos. He could have used them to publicly come out later, but they weren't telling enough that they confirmed anything. So it's easy to just brush them off as photos with a good friend in the future.

If trades report that someone is in talks for a role it means that he was offered the role already and that only contracts have to be finalized. If they can agree on the money etc. he has the role. That's a very common practice and happens with a lot of movies. For some movies actors only get announced to be in talks for the role and there's never an official casting confirmation again, because such in-talks reports are 99% always a confirmation that the actor will play the character.

R444 Actually, you’re not totally accurate there, when you say he didn’t get the lead role so they offered him another one. The movie is said to be focused around the love story between Madden and Jolie’s characters- therefore HIS is likely to be the bigger lead, and the one he’s been up for all along. And yeah, he’s absolutely career-oriented (and that’s not a bad thing), but when you talk about him hustling like nobody else for the Emmy nod, first of all, that’s not unusual, Netflix always runs aggressive awards campaigns, second, he HAS to hustle hard if he wants a decent chance. He’s up against people like Jason Bateman, Sterling K. Brown, and others far, far more established in America than he is. He’s got to do twice the work to try and get even the nomination, let alone the win.

And the pictures weren’t that ambiguous. The most popular comment under that Met Gala Daily Mail article was asking “where’s his boyfriend?”. Every article that’s come out with solo pictures of him since has had comments underneath asking where the boyfriend was. They don’t often know his name, because you’re right, most people don’t know who he is, but they don’t need to know it to reference him. And sorry, but it just doesn’t make sense to me that an actor like RM, who has been working for so many years to put himself in the position to get the roles he’s finally getting, who is the “leading man/romantic heartthrob” candidate, would deliberately invite that kind of speculation and rumour around himself, which doesn't go away in a hurry, when he never had even a whisper of gay speculation around him before BF.

R445 agree

If Madden's PR team didn't want those pictures of Brandon to hit the gossip sites, they wouldn't have. Hollywood and the entertainment blogs, papers, sites, news shows are all one. If a one breaks rank and publishes something off limits they will no longer get exclusives from staged pictures.

R447 I don't think the pics are necessarily anything 'off limits' without the info that fans found, the sun posted about them living to gather a month before . When the photos can out even busy philips said it was something about ending fragile masculinity (I don't remember exact wording just that she was saying friends should cuddle/hug) on her show

For those of you maintaining the data sheets on likes and followings, Brandon seems to be the only one making any overtures. Has there been any activity on Richard's part connecting the two in the last three weeks?

R449 Richard went for two months without liking any of Brandon's posts. I'm not sure much can be construed from that.

R429 when did Ruchard like any of Brandon's photos lat time? Brandon got lot of visibility and media/SM attention through the speculation and he will keep liking R posts. Afaik it's been a while since R liked B's photos, maybe you should get worried, lol.

R439 That's true. I've been a Richard fan for years and had never even heard of Brandon before the two of them were linked. And I feel bad for Brandon for all the unnecessary and yes, homophobic, hate he's getting from many of the Richard fan girls.

R450, Sorry, I'm not keeping track, which two months are you referring to?

a lot a of the guessing if/when he will come out and trying to compare his situation to other out or closeted actors is futile as there really isn't another example similar: from the uk and won a golden globe a few months ago, was still presumed straight even after years in the public eye, then all of a sudden he's being credibly linked with a man who he is living with and is not commenting on it at all. His career is up the up so it will be really interesting to see what he decides to do

R435 I disagree. To me it's evident that the first pap pics took them by surprise because as soon as they noticed the cameraman, they dropped their arms from each other. Yes, they were papped together a few times after that -- but in none of those photos were they touching.

You think Richard was so desperate for a gay role that he called the paps himself? Why would he be desperate for a gay role when he's already played at least four of them? And if the argument is that the role called for a gay actor playing a superhero role rather than a gay superhero -- well, at looks like he may be playing a superhero after all, so he could still come "out" any time he wished and tie it in with the movie.

R453 It's been longer than two months, actually, but I was referring to the time we knew they were/are living together.

Richard only liked a few of Brandon's photos back in October or November right after they first met. After the pap pics came out, he liked several in a row. But that was rare for him because he hadn't been regularly liking the photos anyway.

[quote]no way would it make sense for an actor on the cusp of the A-list who plays very traditionally masculine straight roles, and who never had even a whisper of gay rumours around him before this, to pretend to not be straight for ONE role that there was every chance he wouldn't get anyway.

Exactly.

He isn't pretending gay. It's all in the eye of beholder. And sadly still homophobic audience who think a straight guy gets gay by living with a gay under the same roof or god forbid touching his neck.

R415, Is that a pic of Brandon and not Richard? If so, Brandon looks really good.

R460 The guy in that picture isn't Brandon or Richard. It's just a pic the person who runs the twitter account has up as part of their profile.

R460 It's actually this guy:

Richard isn't pretending to be gay. He's just leaving it very ambiguous. He let's some people make their speculations but if he wants he can easily pretend in the future that there was nothing between him and Brandon. He did the least thing possible to make himself a suitable candidate for the LGBT role. He killed two birds with one stone. He made himself available for the LGBT roles and the straight roles in the movie. And now that he got one of the straight roles he dialed down the ambiguous sightings again.

In my opinion the pap pics were all staged, the couple and single pap pics. They were there to create buzz and make magazines interested in him. Every publicity and news coverage is good at the moment. By leaving it ambiguous they managed to maintain the buzz and it allowed Richard to keep his masculine straight image like he wanted. Especially as he seems to focus on masculine appearances in the last few weeks. He got a lot of new followers from the pics with Brandon, he's still seen as a masculine actor hunk. It's only a win for him.

R461 Hero Fiennes-Tiffin is an English actor and model best known for his role as the 11-year-old Tom Riddle, the young version of antagonist Lord Voldemort, in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, the sixth instalment of the Harry Potter films.

Whatever the reason, and whether or not the paps were called, Madden opened up speculation about his sexuality. Straight women don't trust BI guys and won't take him seriously for other than career advancement. If his past gfs weren't beards, he'll need them now.

R462 Ugh. Please no posts of Hero Fiennes Tiffin, the latest Hollywood nepotism "actor". This guy and his fanbase are the worst.

Madden already has a relationship with Disney/Marvel. He starred in Cinderella. It’s not that shocking that he scored the part.

Whether the pap pics with Brandon were staged or not, Richard blew his Totally Straight™ image.

R463 the mental gymnastics... They live together and have even travelled to London together, Brandon has met Richard's parents...

[quote]By leaving it ambiguous they managed to maintain the buzz and it allowed Richard to keep his masculine straight image like he wanted.

R463 No it didn't. That's pretty much gone.

R469 did I say anywhere that they couldn't be a couple? No, I didn't. I only said that they staged the pap pics to create buzz. Doesn't mean that they couldn't be a real couple. But it's clear that they used the gay/bi speculations for buzz and when it's no longer convenient for them they go back into hiding.

R471 If that's true, he made a pretty big sacrifice. Those optics are forever.

[quote]No it didn't. That's pretty much gone.

His straight or masculine image isn't gone. People still buy him as the masculine British Hollywood hunk. If someone mentions Madden noone will immediately think "oh, the gay or bi guy". People are bringing up Brandon in online comments because they saw the recent pictures that just came out (most people who don't hang around comment sections of gossip sites don't know about Brandon or don't think that they're a couple).

Let a few months pass without photos of them together and noone will think about it anymore. At best people will remember past photos of Richard walking with his roommate and laugh about how people could really think that there was something between them. They were just seen walking together, nothing more.

R471 We get it, you're very very set on your theory that they staged the pictures, that it was all for career advancement etc. And you could be right. On the other hand, people have pointed out to you details in your information that are actually wrong, and reasons other people don't agree with you and don't believe your theory. You don't need to keep saying the same thing over and over. The reality is, you might be right, the people you disagree with might be, you might be wrong, EVERYBODY might be wrong!. None of us can actually KNOW this stuff, at the end of the day. We can only make up our own minds based on what we see.

R471 You need to stop trying to tie this up in a pretty pink bow. What happened makes no sense from a Hollywood career or leading man standpoint.

R463, R471, All the high profile attention Richard has received, GG award, magazine and newspaper features, Rocketman press, Emmy nomination was in place before the pap pictures. He didn't need to create buzz.

R476 Richard isn't nominated for an Emmy yet lol. He is campaigning right now to get nominated.

[quote]He didn't need to create buzz.

R476 I agree. Even if it was his publicist's idea to parade him with Brandon, it wasn't prudent one from a Homophobic Hollywood standpoint. Gay audiences were going to see Rocketman, anyway. It just doesn't make logical sense unless everybody on his team was smokin' weed.

R477, Thanks for the fact check. I thought the list was confirmed, but just predicted, my bad.

Here's a possibility nobody has floated: Brandon's publicist called the paps.

R479 Your point still stands though. He won the Golden Globe, was nominated at Critics Choice, presented at SAG awards and BAFTA awards… he was all over the awards circuit and attracting more press and pictures with every ceremony. He was apparently the one people were falling all over themselves to meet backstage at the Globes alone. And yeah, he might have the Emmy nomination soon too. He had all the Bodyguard buzz from the UK and Netflix and the Rocketman press machine gearing up (people give out about so many photoshoots and articles in a row, but they were all lined up a long time ago and some done months ago- the Elle article that came out in April was an interview he did back in January, for example!). He absolutely did not need Brandon for any of this. If his team was going to stage pictures, they could have just as easily staged solo pictures.

R480 If it was Brandon's people (which I don't believe for a second) then they should be doing a better job, because their client wasn't even referred to by name in 9 out 10 headlines, mostly just "Sam Smith's Ex". He hasn't gained anything by this. Like someone said upthread- the only thing Brandon has gotten out of this is more hate.

Richard got a lot of new followers just from the initial pap pics alone. And of course those pics made him more interesting to the tabloids as well. Now, in addition to the attention he already got from his interviews and photoshoots in magazines, he also got attention and press from a completely different audience that reads the tabloids.

R469, R475, R476.......All you are right.

[quote]What some posters willingly ignore is that it's not "just" about random pictures but other small things that form a bigger picture. But of course that gets then dismissed as "wishful thinking" and borderline tinhat conspiracy theories.

True and I think it's time to re-post the timeline of this -real- relationship- between Richard and Brandon.

- Richard and Brandon have known each other since at least October 2018 because that's when photos of them surfaced from a party. Richard followed Brandon on Nov 2, 2018. Brandon followed Richard on Nov 3, 2018.

- Nov 5. One of Brandon's friends- Asia Chow- posted in IG a pic of Brandon and Richard hanging out together and commented that Brandon was lucky. Brandon replied back "blessed."

- According to several sightings posted in SM, Richard and Brandon spent NYE together in Scotland.

- At a few social occasions after that, Richard and Brandon appear together.

- Jan 13,2019: Brandon and Richard were at Critics’ Choice Awards after party. Richard's parents are in the pics with them.

- Jan 16,2019: Richard took Brandon to Elton John’s concert in Sacramento. via @elleusa @jimheadjr

- Sometime in February, Brandon's ex, Sam Smith, unfollowed Richard on Instagram.

- Brandon starts to follows Richard's dad on Instagram, and Richard's dad follows Brandon -- which is notable in that his dad only follows a handful of people, mostly family and close friends.

- Feb 21, 2019. A photo surfaces of Richard walking Brandon's dog in LA. And shortly thereafter, an article pops up that says Richard is "crashing" with his "pal" Brandon in LA while Richard looks for work in Hollywood.

- Mar 21,2019: there are pics of Brandon and Richard at Wallows “Nothing Happens”release party.

- Richard flies back to London to start production on his new movie "2017" where he's in with Colin Firth and Benedict Cumberbatch. But on Saturday night, March 30, a photo surfaces of him and Brandon at the Noel Coward Theatre in London, sitting together at the play All About Eve, so it's obvious that Brandon has traveled to London with Richard

- Just a few days later- April 6- , they're both back in LA, walking down the street with their arms around each other .

- A DL poster claims to have seen the two of them together at a restaurant recently, acting all cozy and intimate. DL poster says he assumed they were just another gay couple, but then he recognized Richard.

- Brandon has a Spotify play list of love songs titled "Richard.",

- In recent interviews -Vogue- , Richard's answer about not talking about his personal life, the journalist notes he is "still chilly". The Vogue interviewer makes it explicit how defensive Madden got when the subject of sexuality was brought up.

-Richard starts to be papped almost daily, always ALONE in LA.

R482 Gay rumours and speculation about his relationship with his "roommate"?! A sudden strong interest from the tabloids in getting pictures of the two of them together and articles full of hints dancing around the topic? Not the kind of interest and attention a leading man actor on the verge of A-list Hollywood popularity would really want. Especially not when you combine career ambitions with his dislike of any media attention on his romantic life (which isn't new, it's long-established and held true for his relationships with women too.)

R482 But at what cost? He's no longer seen as straight. At one point I thought this was a calculated move on the part of his PR to emerge from the closet while creating buzz for Rocketman but now that we've seen him scurry back into closet mode, it makes less and less sense.

Someone predicted on one of these threads that five years from now he'll be married to a woman and have some kids. There's nothing I've seen that makes me feel that prediction was incorrect.

I don't believe this was a PR move, but I also don't think he's ever going to come out, and will likely end up ignoring any and all questions (or not permitting them in the first place).

He's still seen as straight by the majority of people. And even people who would be willing to believe that he could be in a relationship with Brandon won't fully believe of him being non-straight if no further photos of him and Brandon come out. If there's no further confirmation those people will dismiss the speculations.

And noone except people on DL and perhaps some stans on twitter or instagram are aware of the timeline that was put together here. Most people only saw some photos of Richard walking with his roommate and are perfectly fine with believing he's straight until some more intimate photos come out or until he confirms anything.

[quote]He's still seen as straight by the majority of people.

R487 Not since it came out that he was living with a guy. Come on! Nobody of Richard's stature and economic demographic has to live like a squatter in someone else's apartment. That created speculation even without the pap shots. I think you're trying to convince yourself more than us that this didn't change anything about his straight image.

R487 Nailed it.

R488 Please stop thinking that the DL and some folks on SM and the Daily Mail equates to the general public. It doesn't. There are billons of people around the world have no clue about either of them, and hundreds of millions of people who follow the Marvel franchise will ignore or dismiss all speculation unless they're seen together around the time the film comes out.

R486 I agree. He will probably never come out and will end up marrying a woman. For now he's enjoying the speculation without confirming anything because it's free pr. More people are interested in him and his career now than ever, so it worked.

R487 I agree with you. If you search twitter, it’s hit or miss. There are tons of fans posting the normal “I want to marry him, he’s so hot, etc” nonsense. (These are seemingly women, but I guess you never can tell on twitter) But then there is the criticism of his comments about gay actors and gay roles where people are saying he has no room to talk from his place of straight privilege. Even further, there are the comments on the Met Gala lumping him in with “the straights” for his boring outfit.

All this to say, it’s not top of mind for most people when you bring him up anymore. Either they didn’t know in the first place, don’t want to believe it was anything more than friendship or a PR stunt, or his PR backpedaling worked. The public forgets fast.

R491, it's not positive PR and I doubt he's enjoying the speculation. Richard has said he won't comment on it. I think he is just living his life. He may have a relationship (platonic or sexual) with whomever and then decide to move on. It's life.

[Quote]All this to say, it’s not top of mind for most people when you bring him up anymore. Either they didn’t know in the first place, don’t want to believe it was anything more than friendship or a PR stunt, or his PR backpedaling worked. The public forgets fast.

THIS.

R494, R492, Agreed. Just looking at the IG hashtag account for RM and all the pap pictures are old news,

[quote]Most people only saw some photos of Richard walking with his roommate

R487 How old are you? A 32-year old man doesn't need a "roommate." He's not a fucking college student!

R488 People read tabloids and spend time on SM. Sure, it's a microcosm of the world's human activity but this is why actors pay publicists and publicists pay paps and paps get their pix sold. You can thumb your nose at it but plenty of people take these outlets seriously in the entertainment industry.

[quote]The public forgets fast.

But the internet is forever. Anyone who wants to look up Richard Madden will see those optics. But what do we care what "the public" thinks? We're talking about what we've observed. If it didn't change his image as a Totally Straight™ guy, it took a chink out of his armor.

His straight cred is gone forever. Suck one dick...,

R498, Thanks for the comment. Shouldn't you be doing your homework?

[quote]But the internet is forever. Anyone who wants to look up Richard Madden will see those optics.

Which optics? A guy who is known for dating women and doing action roles walks together with a friend on the street??? That will surely not make people believe that Richard is gay or bi when they randomly look him up in the future.

[quote]How old are you? A 32-year old man doesn't need a "roommate." He's not a fucking college student!

Plenty of actors live with a roommate. And Richard had the perfect excuse because he mentioned in an interview that he moved from London to LA and wanted to look for his own place from there. And people who don't already know that he lived with Brandon won't accidentally stumble about that info in the future anyway. If they google him none of the few articles that even mentioned him living with Brandon will show up. He's done hundreds of interviews and there are hundreds of photos of him that came out in the last few months alone. This whole story about him living with Brandon is already buried.

R500 Exactly

Pap pictures aren't the be-all and end-all of everything. There were almost NO pictures of Brandon and Richard for months, by friends or paps or anyone else. Doesn't mean their relationship wasn't happening.

But more importantly, does having all these incredibly negative views of Richard and his situation with Brandon and making really negative predictions about them not get very tiring and dispiriting? I mean, seriously, if that's your view, I don't get how you even enjoy following along with what's going on. I don't understand what the point is. Is it just to make comments so that in a few weeks or a few months if they haven't been seen together you can say "Look, I was right?" So what? Maybe they never WILL be seen together again, maybe people saying that are right. (Though even if they aren't it won't make every other assumption about them right along with it, the reality is without being told we will NEVER know the full story.) Maybe we will get more pictures. Going on about it is just pointless though. Far as I know, nobody here is equipped with a fully functional crystal ball telling them all about what's coming. Why not just sit back and see what happens?

Brandon is an experiment for Richard. Why would he come out now when he might decide that being in a relationship with a man just isn’t for him?

The adage is suck one cock and you’re a cocksucker forever, but you’re not a cocksucker if you don’t admit it and there’s no real evidence. By avoiding the subject and keeping Brandon at a distance, he reserves the right to walk away scot-free and into a relationship with a woman. Then he’s not a cocksucker, but rather some guy who kinda sorta mighta had his own cock sucked by a cocksucker in LA before he met some actress and married her.

R503 We're all cocksuckers, honey.

[quote]I don't understand what the point is. Is it just to make comments so that in a few weeks or a few months if they haven't been seen together you can say "Look, I was right?"

R502 Agreed. R500 is so full of her own blather it's amusing. She wants to dominate the thread, be "right" and tie everything up neatly while some of us are comfortable with ambiguity, posing questions and noticing what doesn't make sense.

R502 That deserves a standing ovation.

Brandon yesterday

Well let’s move on. They’re both liking the same shit on IG at the same time. RM must be back in LA.

R507 After a little bit of morning sex they are liking on ig, sweet!

[quote]He's still seen as straight by the majority of people.

He's still seen as "Who?" by the majority of people.

[QUOTE]We're all cocksuckers, honey.

Call Richard a cocksucker to his face and see what kind of response you get.

R510

The IG hashtag account for RM has already moved on, pap pics are old news.

Hmmm. Somebody on this thread really wants Brichard to be "old news." Maybe if you say it long and hard enough... smh

R511, From Sirens. R is such a great actor, always taking on versatile roles.

R513, wrong if you were referring to R512, I was pointing out that the pap pics will be forgotten in time, not a comment on the status of the relationship.

Richard in talks to star in Marvel's "Eternals"

Did you seriously just discover that after this has been discussed here for the last 200 comments or so lol?

😂😂😂😂

I just did a search and I am worse than Hitler

I've tuned out you bitches after the 3rd thread, since it didn't seem that anyone had any legit news to report

R516 Not to worry. I thought you posted the link to show how versatile Richard's roles are, lol.

I hope we'll get new pics soon!

I dunno r519, I personally think you are somewhat better than Hitler.

R521 We already have - Richard looking hot at the Met Gala. Brandon with his eyes on fire after looking at Richard's pics.

R506

We really need to do a poll:

Fladdon?

Brichard?

Mandon?

Branchard?

Flichard?

Others?

Madlynn

k so the first (published) time Richard talked about superhero roles was actually in that interview with Elton John for Interview Mag on Apr. 8.

"JOHN: Would you ever do a blockbuster movie, like a Marvel movie or a Star Trek?

MADDEN: If it was the right thing. I’m just happy to give people entertainment. I don’t have to be doing these really intense parts all the time. I don’t think they’re always good for me to do, either.

JOHN: You get shoved down a cul-de-sac?

MADDEN: You learn different skills from doing different things. Slam me in a bunch of Lycra and ask me to be a superhero, okay. Let’s work out how to do that and be honest within it."

...which sounds a lot different than the later quote about just doing it for the money. Reads more like he wants to work on something that isn't as big of a headfuck as playing a bodyguard with PTSD. But I'd much rather see a sexy bi-Bond (even though apparently that's impossible) than yet another superhero movie. idk, maybe I'm old but the whole comic book thing and constant remakes are getting pretty boring. How many Spider-Man movies are there now? I honestly only remember the one with Toby Maguire.

Link to Interview Mag below for reference:

[quote]You get shoved down a cul-de-sac

Pics please.

R527 Thank you! I vaguely recalled him talking about that before but I couldn’t remember which interview that was.

R529 I couldn’t forget the “slam me in a bunch of Lycra” part 😉

Also that Interview Mag photoshoot is my favourite so far. Headlamp as accessory in bright sunshine? Check. Cowboy hat on a Scotsman? Weird but okay. UnderArmour shirt with a Gucci coat? Muddy Brokeback farmhand pickup truck aesthetic? It’s so strange and so hot. I think it has something to do with how it makes my bf’s ugly camping attire actually look acceptable that makes me say oh heck yes.

Have you all seen this article? https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/03/02/marvel-seeking-openly-gay-actor-the-eternals/

Here's the important line: "If cast, it claims they will play Ikaris, a prominent member of the titular race. Other leads are likely to be Sersi and Piper."

Also, note that the article is dated 2 March 2019

I find the timing of this all very interesting.

We've no idea when he did those interviews. They were published about the same time for Rocketman promo of course. It could very well be that he did the interview that he would only do a superhero movie for the money way before the interview from the Interview Magazine. Meaning he did the Interview Magazine interview already knowing that he wanted to audition/was already in consideration for a role in The Eternals.

R466: I have zero problems with nepotism when the guys is talented (Ben Platt, Lucas Hedges) i don't know if that's the case of this guy.

And frankly the "the pics were staged and a plan the create buzz" is one of the most stupid things i've ever heard. In HW most gay actor are in fake relationships with women, and now suddenly create speculation about an actor (who is in the best moment of his career) who had no previous gay rumours is the way to boost your career, yeah sure

R532 that article links to the original source which doesn't claim anything of the sort, actually it says the opposite. I think it's just a mistake

R532 weird, that’s the only article where they mention Ikaris being the gay character. In every other article (even more recent ones from PinkNews) it’s Hercules.

Your take is rather outdated, r534.

Gaybaiting and bromancing is popular in the social media age, whether that's KJ Apa and Charles Melton wrapped around each other while wearing cunty catsuits, or gifs of Taron gazing at Hugh Jackman and Colin Firth on red carpets. As long as there's plausibe deniability, it's fine.

I think Richard will come out just with pap pics of them together and if asked about Brandon he'll just say "Look at the pics"

R537: Bromance implies being heterosexual and Jackman denies the gay rumours everytime he opens his mouth.

Nobody wants people to speculate about their sexual orientation, twitter storms and people talking about you doesn't equate to be good for the business.

And one thing is to be playful or gay friendly and other let people speculate about your relationship with a young gay actor when there were no gay rumours about you previously.

And even worse, Madden was at the best moment of his career, he doesn't need pr experiments

Think you meant to say “I wish,” there, R538.

R537 Nope. It's popular when it's clearly only fanservice and the actors themselves are straight. It's absolutely NOT the same thing when the leading man in question might ACTUALLY not be straight and the guy he's being linked to is not a co-star, or even an equally famous friend, but an actor who he's been incredibly private about his relationship with.

[quote] I think Richard will come out just with pap pics of them together and if asked about Brandon he'll just say "Look at the pics"

I have been hurt in x number of ways by your drinking...

R534 Believe me that Hero Tiffin Fiennes guy is an awful actor. He recently starred as lead in a teen romance movie (the teen version of 50SOG) and got scathing reviews for his acting. He got destroyed in the reviews while his female acting partner was much better. I remember one review from a famous publication that said that he should drop the name Fiennes because his acting was a shame for the other family members (Ralph and Joseph Fiennes).

The movie is based on a Wattpad fanfiction that has several parts, so it will be a movie franchise. He had almost no acting credits. His biggest role was young Voldemort in Harry Potter (a role he only got because his uncle Ralph Fiennes played the adult version). Then he decided to go into modelling because that's apparently the go-to for nepotism children. And then he got cast in a movie franchise although he's an abysmal actor with hardly any acting credits. I'm ok with nepotism if the children are at least talented. But this guy... is not.

R525, here's one: Richardflyon

What the fuck does Jackman's gay denials have to do with Taron gaining more traction on social from the aforementioned gifs? That's why I referenced the term "plausible deniability".

The actor from "How to Get Away with Murder" spent an age before coming out as straight. At no other time in history would he have done that. It's a new age.

R533 true, no idea when each individual interview took place but saying he’d do it because it’s good entertainment and because he doesn’t want to only do super serious heavy acting work is different than saying yup gotta get that bread. I mean, both responses are valid but the first one makes him look less like a jerk. If he wants to escape the whole GoT typecasting thing you’d think he’d avoid superhero fantasy stuff but man’s gotta eat/pay for that MetBall ticket I guess

R546 To be fair, I know we don't know when the interview was done, but he's been saying similar stuff about wanting to mix up the heavy roles with lighter fare for a long while. It's the reason he took that Netflix movie "Ibiza", and he said very similar stuff in interviews about it around then. I think he is quite sincere about it, it just might be the first time he's talked about it in terms of doing a superhero movie.

R543: I know, it's based on the After novels (which no decent parent will let his daughter read). It's difficult to be good with such dreadful material, but probably wanting that role says a lot of about him.

Generally good actors (with influential parents in the business) start playing small roles and when do the transition to main roles if feels natural. But some hollywood offspring start the house by the roof and they basically want the followers and the name on magazines

R545: Jack Falahee simply wanted people focusing in his acting and not in his sexual orientation. The problem is he did everything wrong. Instead of being honest and saying i prefer not to talk about my sexual orientation to let people focus on the character he went in circles trying to explain it. Even his coming out as straight was an over the top disaster. He seems a nice guy, and his intentions seemed good but he did everything wrong.

If my memory doesn't fail Gale Harold did something similar at the beginning of Queer as folk but at the beginning of the second season he decided to came out as straight too. When you don't address your sexual orientation and you are playing a prominent gay role people think you are gay by default (and i think it's better to be clear from the beginning if you are not going to like the heat of the speculation)

R545: Taron is starting all his recent interviews with i'm straight but i like to go to gay bars. If he doesn't stop his gaybait will go from cute to awful really fast. People don't like gaybait, they don't like it on fiction and they don't like it on real people.

One thing is being playful and don't having gay panic and other very different is teasing.

Anyway, the pics of Richard and Brandon have nothing to do with gay baiting and a lot to do with relationship speculation, two very different things

Anyone might ACTUALLY not be straight. Madden had his hand on Flynn's neck. That's the most "salacious" thing here.

Colton Haynes is not straight. That didn't stop the title actor in Teen Wolf hugging up on and kissing Haynes on camera. Gaybaiting can involve someone who's gay. Colton wasn't the one teasing in that instance, but he was part of his co-star's baiting.

I have never seen any significant outrage over gaybaiting.

R551: You obviously didn't hear about Teen Wolf . The show was bashed and the actors were bashed. When you have cray cray fanbase you better be careful

And right now it's more and more common that shows that promise gay storylines but only give a token gay character receive backlash

Thanks, R526 and R544. Our list so far, with a few more additions...

Fladdon

Brichard

Mandon

Branchard

Flichard

Madlynn

Richardflyon

Richlynn

Richdon

Madbrand

What have we missed?

R552, That stuff is a drop in the ocean. What's major in a tiny niche of an already niche fanbase doesn't necessarily make waves outside it.

LOL “gay fear” hahahahaha, what is that?!

Anyway, I think R should go out with someone.

I think this might be from the Bodyguard event he did the day after the first set of pictures came out?

R556 Hmm... I'll try that again, sorry.

R552 Teen Wolf's gay baiting was on another level. Fans who shipped two straight male characters (Stiles and Derek = Sterek) on the show got encouraged by showrunners and actors and even teased that the gay relationship could eventually become real in the show. As an example: Hoechlin (who played Derek) gave an interview. He was talking about Stiles in one question. In the next question the interviewer asked him if he could talk about his love interest in the show and Hoechlin cheekily answered "I think I just did" (hinting that Stiles was Derek's real love). That was the level of gay baiting. And those two actors became the two most popular actors of the show with the most exposure as the Sterek fandom became the biggest part of the TW fandom.

And as soon as Hoechlin had left the show he tried to ban Sterek itemsfrom his signings at fan conventions not wanting to have to do anything with the gay ship anymore. But he obviously got big fan backlash so he had to start signing Sterek related items again after a few conventions lmao.

That was cute! Charlie is very sweet!

Awww, that is cute, R559!

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R547 Ibiza was such crap. I expected better from Vanessa Bayer and Gillian Jacobs - they’re usually really funny. Richard was cute in it though. I watched an interview with GJ, RM and the director and I blame that idiot director who had never even been to Ibiza

R562 Oh god, I know. It was BAD. I remember looking forward to it coming out, but when I actually ended up watching it it was so bad I just ended up skipping to Richard's parts! It probably was really fun to film for him though.

R563 I did the same 😂 apparently he had to send the director music because the guy had no clue

[quote]And frankly the "the pics were staged and a plan the create buzz" is one of the most stupid things i've ever heard. In HW, most gay actors are in fake relationships with women, and now suddenly create speculation about an actor (who is in the best moment of his career) who had no previous gay rumours is the way to boost your career, yeah sure.

Thanks for your common sense.

R564 Oh man, REALLY?! Yeah, actually, I can buy that. He's certainly more familiar with the real Ibiza than the director ever bothered to get.

R566 check out this cringe-fest interview with the director:

R567 Oh WOW. I had known that he'd never gone to Ibiza but I hadn't read that interview and that was... oooof. Mortifying.

I read an article about Ibiza (or maybe it was a video nterview) that they had to teach the cast, Gillian specifically, how to act high in all the club/rave scenes. They had advisors on set etc. The only good thing about that movie was the music and RM.

R569 Gillian is a teetotaler. Apparently her father had issues with substance abuse and that is why she abstains.

....

R571 love the third pic

Madden won't be papped with him again. Brandon will reemerge with a new boyfriend.

R573 You wish! They will get papped again, just wait and see!

R574, I'd like to see it happen but Brandon isn't interested in some spazzy closet case who wants to hide him. He doesn't roll like that. Maybe he'll date Harry Styles.

Honestly, BF can do much much better than RM. BF is better looking and there are other out gay and bisexual men who aren't cowardly closet cases. If anyone is lucky in this arrangement it's RM.

Nothing is buried or forgotten.

In twitter, reddit....... they're reading these threads ;))

R577 ...

R577 while it is a weird take to say it’s homophobic (lol insisting he’s 💯 straight is more homophobic) it does happen. My bf lived with a straight guy for 2 years and this former roomie is about to marry his gf of 10 years. Bit different when you’re in college living with a friend than when you’re in your 30s living with a fellow actor.

Honestly I don’t know what I think of this relationship anymore. At first I was convinced they were banging and then I remembered all of the touchy-feely drama school straight guys I used to hang around with (womp womp) and now I’m all ??? especially because it doesn’t look like we’ll be getting any more pap pics anytime soon. RM mentioned before he had a chat group to avoid paps in London, maybe he’s met the neighbours and they’re looking out for him. Do we know for sure he’s moved out of B’s place? The recent pap pics look like they’re in the same area.

Actors often to leave their home for extended periods of time to work, whether that's a promotional tour, location filming, touring in a play etc. It makes sense to have a housemate.

That has no bearing on whether these two are fucking or not, though.

Oh, and anyone who screams "homophobia!" at people making assumptions that they're fucking is a dishonest shit - either a handmaiden gay or a disgruntled straight (woman, most likely).

R579 No, we don’t know that he’s moved out. That speculation was based on his solo pap pics, but as you said, it appears they were taken in the same area where he lives with Brandon.

And I agree, just bc a straight guy and a gay guy share an apartment doesn’t mean they’re banging. It’s just all the OTHER evidence that leads DL to surmise that.

You can tell we have a lot of non-DLers herr recently, not only from what they argue, but also from their inability to post a link in the fucking link box.

R581 I agree. If the only thing we had was that they were roommates, we wouldn’t have almost 12 threads. Sure, some people may still think it’s strange that a grown, successful man needs a roommate, but that’s not what’s going on here.

As far as moving out, I don’t think he has. That was also fueled by the Jackal article. They’re liking the exact same thing on Instagram at the exact same time. That’s pretty coincidental unless you’re sitting right next to the person and discussing things. Plus as others said, all the pics, solo and otherwise, are in the same tiny area (like 2-3 blocks). Maybe he moved into a different apartment in the same building 😉

I don't know if anyone has posted this but a few months ago some marvel blogs said that the eternals is rumored to start filming in September in London. kind of funny when you think about how Richard just moved from London to LA for more opportunities

Regarding Ibiza -- I agree it's a terrible movie. I generally hate rom-coms and "meet cutes," but I have to say the scene where Harper and Leo meet is pretty damned good. I mean, what better pickup line than, "I just wanted to tell you that you've got a massive dick on your face"?

This is amazing. That dylansmadden has been called out again.

R585 While she's clearly a loser who hates Brandon, it would be better to call her out and ask her to explain the 'drama' she claims Brandon has started because as far as I can see there is none but then again I'm not going to get mad at a homophobe getting dragged

"They deadass trying"? Who knew Richard Madden had a stan in Miss Shuga Cain.

R587 She’s been asked what her reason for hating Brandon was, and someone asked her what drama Brandon had and she instantly blocked them. They commented about it on twitter.

R589 Wait I never clicked through to the link on Twitter and thought r586 (not 585 oops) was just the first screenshot, fuck that homophobe

Big crossover with Tumblr girls here. Blogs about Bradden already.

She hates him because she knows that they are a couple but she can't accept it, she's a loser!! And it was Richard that started to follow Brandon on ig so he was him that wanted Brandon's attention lol! And it was Richard with his hand on Brandon's neck lol! I hope they'll come out officially so she can shut up!

R591 really? Link

I think she’s also a big Ellie Bamber fan, so that probably has some part in it. She claims it’s not because B is gay but because he’s him and he’s the one that made all the drama with Sam and calls the paps, etc.

Remember part 12 is already made:

What pictures on instagram do they like at the same time? Whats that gotta do with anything?

Some of you people need to learn the definition of a homophobe. A person who does not like Brandon or ship them as a couple is not a homophobe. And person who suggests another person might be straight or bi is not a homophobe. Not everyone has to agree.

R596 Then get her to tell her reasoning to hating Brandon. If he was straight, she’d have no issue with him at all.

She also hates him because she thinks Brandon is the reason Richard broke up with Ellie. I mean even if it's true, it's Richard's fault, it's not Brandon the homewrecker, he was the one the started to follow him and he had a gf. R595 A lot of time they are liking things on ig at the same time so obviously, they are in the same place at the same time if they do that, maybe in bed.

R596

You (people) don't think it's suspect that the twitter user is venomous towards the openly LGBT person in the equation - the LGBTer whose neck was being touched - while loving the straight co-star? They ship the straight co-star with their fave but the other guy is an attention seeker? (And Taron ISN'T an attention seeker - oh my sides!)

[Quote] find a gay that can sing and is talented as Taron and then perhaps talk your shit.

That twitter user is a trip!