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Richard Madden and "buddy" Brandon Flynn part 6

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by Anonymousreply 600April 23, 2019 1:59 AM

I’ve been reading responses on Instagram to the latest set of photos. It seems that some of the fangirls are finally grudgingly starting to accept the — gasp! — idea that they’re likely more than friends.

There are still holdouts, though, that insist Richard is merely staying with Brandon while he house hunts. House hunting for the two of them, maybe!

Also, has there been any mention of them living in (or at least frequenting) West Hollywood? Apart from maybe Key West and parts of San Fran, that’s got to be about the gayest place in the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 1April 19, 2019 8:28 PM

Damn, that's a massive leash for such a dainty little dog. When is this photo from?

by Anonymousreply 2April 19, 2019 8:29 PM

RE I thought that was a giant mutated rat

by Anonymousreply 3April 19, 2019 8:31 PM

Also RM is clearly the bottom; go on any male bisexual forum and they've all got their asses in the air and faces burried in the pillow.

by Anonymousreply 4April 19, 2019 8:33 PM

R4 With that bulge I hope he's at least vers.

by Anonymousreply 5April 19, 2019 8:35 PM

R4 at the very least I hope they’re verse, because it’d be a shame not to tap that ass!

by Anonymousreply 6April 19, 2019 8:35 PM

Nice looking couple.

by Anonymousreply 7April 19, 2019 8:45 PM

I was unconvinced until the dog. That is a gay male couple's "doggie dog."

by Anonymousreply 8April 19, 2019 8:55 PM

To be fair, the dog was Brandon’s before they’d even met. But that Richard has been seen walking him and they’ve both been spotted shopping for dog food/treats together on two occasions now imo shows that Richard cares for the dog too. Charlie is a spoiled pooch!

by Anonymousreply 9April 19, 2019 9:05 PM

the power of denial is high in some fans, but most of them overcome the whole thing and with a little luck they will be supportive.

If he finally comes out, Richard must be one of the very few that come out of the closet without previous rumours (i can't think of someone whose coming out surprised me in recent years)

by Anonymousreply 10April 19, 2019 9:17 PM

r4 I don’t know anything about Richard but from rumors and peeps who hooked up with Sam Smith, he’s a blouse lmao. Don’t know if bottoming is Brandon’s preferred position but that’s what I’ve heard about Sam. /I feel like of gross talking about this stuff lmao but I thought I would share since DL likes gossip like that lol.

by Anonymousreply 11April 19, 2019 9:21 PM

From This

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by Anonymousreply 12April 19, 2019 9:29 PM

To this

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by Anonymousreply 13April 19, 2019 9:29 PM

From @stylishflynn on Twitter (I can’t get the link to work on my phone):

“Bodyguard star Richard Madden and actor Brandon Flynn were seen taking a hike together on Thursday.”

“They took a hike together that’s the most married couple shit.”

by Anonymousreply 14April 19, 2019 9:29 PM

R11 Sam sure seems like it based on his Insta posts.

by Anonymousreply 15April 19, 2019 9:33 PM

And is there no gossip about Brandon? Do you all think he is gay or not necessarily? I think he is, I don't really see him as bi.

by Anonymousreply 16April 19, 2019 9:36 PM

R16: Brandon came out of the closet long time ago. He was rumoured to date his fellow 13RW actor Miles Heizer back then. Their fanbase loved the couple, and i suppose they have reasons to believe they were dating (none of them play a gay character on the show). I think he came out with the australian referendum for marriage equality. And of course he dated (very publicly) Sam Smith

And yes, Sam Smith is not that most handsome guy, but he seems a good guy and he is talented. For some people the looks are not the most important thing. Even after the break up they speak nice things about each other.

Brandon is famous and good looking, he can date whoever he wants

by Anonymousreply 17April 19, 2019 9:52 PM

R16 ? Brandon is out as gay.

Richard is bi, i think.

by Anonymousreply 18April 19, 2019 9:53 PM

Thanks, R17, I actually meant gossip that was not in the public domain, but I should have been more specific :).

R18, I just hadn't seen any concrete reference, just that he had come out as a member of the LGBTQ community. But I am happy to stand corrected there! And I agree about Richard.

by Anonymousreply 19April 19, 2019 9:56 PM

r16 Brandon came out already

Also r17 I actually like Sam but his fans were fucking nasty to Brandon when they broke up. They would leave nasty comments under his Instagram posts because he dared smile or looked in another mans direction. He did post that pic of Richard when they hung out late last year but he deleted it in January I think because Sam fans were insulting him and mad that he had ~moved on~ (at this time we only knew they knew each other and that’s it but they assumed they were fucking and got mad at Brandon for even looking at another man).

by Anonymousreply 20April 19, 2019 9:57 PM

R20 Wow, really? I never saw any of that. Only ones that kept insisting that they'd get back together. Though, to be fair, Brandon had some fans that were nasty when they started dating because they wanted Brandon with Miles.

by Anonymousreply 21April 19, 2019 9:59 PM

R16 That Brandon fan from twitter that was mentioned upthread (stylishflynn) swears he's bi. It doesn't really sound realistic to me but I also don't feel like questioning something said by a fan who's been keeping up with him for months/years and has access to way more information than I do.

by Anonymousreply 22April 19, 2019 10:00 PM

Was the gossip Brandon was dating his co-star Miles Heizer floating around before Brandon came out or after? I believe Brandon didn't come out until after 13RW became a hit. He first started posting about gay rights on Instagram before coming out if I remember correctly.

by Anonymousreply 23April 19, 2019 10:00 PM

Haha, I know, R20, I just meant whether he was gay or bi, because my impression is that he is gay.

And that is awful about Sam's fans! Ridiculous. It's good that they themselves seem to have parted on good terms though.

by Anonymousreply 24April 19, 2019 10:00 PM

Thanks, R22. Interesting. I admit I haven't been following him for long enough to argue with that. It's no big deal really, I was just curious.

by Anonymousreply 25April 19, 2019 10:03 PM

r21 yep. And I also thought thought those fans were annoying and cruel. I’m honestly still not sure he and Miles even dated and I just leave that alone though lol. They will date who they want no matter who you ship them with.

by Anonymousreply 26April 19, 2019 10:03 PM

Awhile back, some Brandon fans were arguing about an Insta story he posted (I think)? Something about “the cat’s out of the bag. I like women.” I never saw the list myself, just the discussion about it. Seems that some fans were taking the post seriously but it sounds to me like it was meant to be a joke.

by Anonymousreply 27April 19, 2019 10:07 PM

R23: Rumours about Brandon and Miles were during the first season of 13 RW, the show became a big hit and fans were talking about them (now not even having an openly gay cast member you get free of gay rumours). Dating or not, they were very very close, and they even made a shortfilm when they kissed. Given what we know about Miles it's perfectly possible that they date.

Brandon started to post things about gay rights, and soon after that he came out. As far as i know he never mentioned being bi, and he didn't date girls publicly

by Anonymousreply 28April 19, 2019 10:08 PM

R26 Brandon and Miles definitely fooled around. Friends with benefit perhaps, but it didn't develop into a full fledged relationship.

by Anonymousreply 29April 19, 2019 10:09 PM

Well, Miles is not out of the closet yet, even his relationship with Connor Jessup seem to be bound to a coming out as couple

by Anonymousreply 30April 19, 2019 10:12 PM

Whether Brandon is bi or not fans were so focused on whether he and Miles were together they ignored this relationship. I've been a fan of his for a while and I remember he used to hang out with this girl a lot back when he lived in New York. They seemed really cozy

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by Anonymousreply 31April 19, 2019 10:17 PM

He is cozy with everyone. He was even cozy with Aron Piper on instagram

by Anonymousreply 32April 19, 2019 10:21 PM

R31 This picture 100% reads "fag and his hag" over any type of romance.

by Anonymousreply 33April 19, 2019 10:21 PM

Wow, they are out there, hunny! Yass!

by Anonymousreply 34April 19, 2019 10:21 PM

R32 Aron Piper is straight. His activity on IG is him constantly liking pics of naked girls

by Anonymousreply 35April 19, 2019 10:22 PM

R33 is correct

by Anonymousreply 36April 19, 2019 10:25 PM

R35: I remember him and Omar making a test for a gay magazine. Aron didn't know a thing about gay culture, even some basic gay anthems, and everything he knew was because Omar teached him. He is very gay friendly, but i don't think he is gay at all (a lot of people on Elite thread disagree with me)

by Anonymousreply 37April 19, 2019 10:25 PM

Thanks, R27, R28!

I was reading that twitter mentioned earlier and there was a mention of him having picked on someone at school? I can't find the article this guy apparently wrote though.

I know Brandon himself mentioned he was bullied in middle school, so who knows what the context is. He may have been reacting and not initiating, if this is even true at all.

by Anonymousreply 38April 19, 2019 10:30 PM

As for Aron, I keep changing my mind, but I still think he could be bi or bicurious at least. He does like some homoerotic stuff every now and then...but who knows, R35.

by Anonymousreply 39April 19, 2019 10:32 PM

R39 Or overcompensating...

by Anonymousreply 40April 19, 2019 10:34 PM

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by Anonymousreply 41April 19, 2019 10:36 PM

I wonder what Henry Cavill is thinking of these pics.

by Anonymousreply 42April 19, 2019 10:51 PM

R42 And Sam Heughan too.......

by Anonymousreply 43April 19, 2019 10:59 PM

Well, it's like Cory Booker and his bearding ways watching Pete Buttigieg doing way better on the polls.

Staying in the closet and being in fake relationships not always pays the prize (and i'm perfectly ok with that)

by Anonymousreply 44April 19, 2019 11:02 PM

R44 Word

by Anonymousreply 45April 19, 2019 11:03 PM

another article with same photos

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by Anonymousreply 46April 19, 2019 11:05 PM

I just read through all the comments on the DM article. Nice to see a lot positive responses. I mean, aside from the replies mocking the DM for calling them roommates, most seemed supportive of their relationship,

by Anonymousreply 47April 19, 2019 11:08 PM

R47 I was shocked by all the positive comments.

by Anonymousreply 48April 19, 2019 11:17 PM

Whatever it is between Brandon and Richard. It's clear that they don't mind the speculation about them and the attention they get. Otherwise we would have never gotten those recent photos. They seem like a couple to me. If they really are one, I just hope that Brandon doesn't get hurt by Richard. Brandon seems to always go all in when he's in a relationship. Being a devoted boyfriend.

I hope the relationship didn't start with Richard cheating on Ellie. Because once a cheater... Didn't the British press imply that Richard could have cheated on Ellie? And I think she also posted some cryptic posts on Instagram at the beginning of January. There were also cheating rumours when his relationship with Jenna Coleman ended.

I wish them all the best. But I'm also preparing for the likely downfall. And I hope that breakup won't be because of cheating.

by Anonymousreply 49April 19, 2019 11:24 PM

R47 at least DM has stopped with the pals/friends nonsense. I know they can't call them boyfriends without getting sued but most people can see what's going on

by Anonymousreply 50April 19, 2019 11:25 PM

R37 or he’s just a total Top.

by Anonymousreply 51April 19, 2019 11:38 PM

Richard is a gemini arent they known for being liars (Trump,Smollett) and crazy (Kanye West) atleast Brandon who is a libra like Kim k will put up with it for a bit.

by Anonymousreply 52April 19, 2019 11:39 PM

never thought I'd see Richard madden compared to Donald trump but here we are

by Anonymousreply 53April 19, 2019 11:41 PM

I think Richard broke up with his gf because he met Brandon, I don't think he cheated, but he sure dumped her as soon as he could to be with Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 54April 19, 2019 11:43 PM

R47 I wish I thought they didn't mind, but I kind of think their faces DO look like they mind.

I don't think there were any cheating rumours around his breakup with Ellie, no. I just saw stuff that they were arguing a lot towards the end and their worlds were drifting apart.

by Anonymousreply 55April 19, 2019 11:46 PM

Yay new pics!! ... also RM looking more thicc in all the best places bless <3

by Anonymousreply 56April 19, 2019 11:47 PM

DM: "Richard had opted to dress down for the outing...."

by Anonymousreply 57April 19, 2019 11:48 PM

i don't really know much about Brandon so i just googled him. Gee, the dude has fivehead - seems to occupied half of his face. he should have bangs all the time.

by Anonymousreply 58April 19, 2019 11:55 PM

Brandon mentions telling his parents he was bisexual here

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by Anonymousreply 59April 19, 2019 11:57 PM

R57 I did like the DM comment asking was he supposed to wear a tuxedo to walk the dog...

by Anonymousreply 60April 20, 2019 12:00 AM

R59 wow he's been out since he was 14...over ten years ago

by Anonymousreply 61April 20, 2019 12:04 AM

I want to see them fuck!

by Anonymousreply 62April 20, 2019 12:17 AM

R62 It would break the internet

by Anonymousreply 63April 20, 2019 12:18 AM

Richard wasn't living with his gf right? I find the fact that he's already living with Brandon really interesting, he's really in love with him.

by Anonymousreply 64April 20, 2019 12:26 AM

R64 and they were roommatesss

by Anonymousreply 65April 20, 2019 12:28 AM

R64 well they were in London where he had his own place and she was only around 19 when they started dating...

by Anonymousreply 66April 20, 2019 12:29 AM

I don't know why most people get heated when someone would suggest that Ellie Bamber was a beard. I mean I'd rather that than Richard being a creep that dates a barely legal girl.

by Anonymousreply 67April 20, 2019 12:35 AM

R67 I don't like that he dated someone that young but I don't think it makes richard a creep and I'm not going to bend over backwards to pretend it wasn't real so that I can act like it didn't happen. if it was just Ellie I'd maybe agree with the beard thing but his relationship with Jenna seemed pretty authentic to me

by Anonymousreply 68April 20, 2019 12:45 AM

He might have been with Ellie but it wasn’t love. This is love.

by Anonymousreply 69April 20, 2019 12:51 AM

Nice picture

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by Anonymousreply 70April 20, 2019 1:16 AM

R69 Well, at this stage, Richard and Brandon are still in the infatuation stage of being "in love". Love really needs to prove itself through the test of coming out and long-term commitment.

by Anonymousreply 71April 20, 2019 1:23 AM

R71 and that’s ok if it doesn’t last. Hope they make the most of what they have now.

by Anonymousreply 72April 20, 2019 1:30 AM

It looks like Richard will promote Rocketman on the Graham Norton show . i wouldnt be surprised if Graham mentioned those rumors since he always find something on the internet rumors, gay fanfiction or funny pics of his guests and mentioned it to them.He will probably show pics of them walking and the twitter reaction to the audience and Richard will just laughed it off and make a statement how they are just pals but find the speculation funny.

by Anonymousreply 73April 20, 2019 1:33 AM

r73 where does it say he will be? I have only seen mention of Taron and jaime bell going on Graham Norton

by Anonymousreply 74April 20, 2019 1:39 AM

Which bitch is which?

In OP's pic I honestly can't tell em apart!

by Anonymousreply 75April 20, 2019 1:54 AM

R75 Richard's torso is about twice the width of Brandon's...and he has a grey streak

by Anonymousreply 76April 20, 2019 2:01 AM

R73 I highly doubt Graham is going to mention this. R's team will probably ban any questions regarding Brandon

by Anonymousreply 77April 20, 2019 2:14 AM

I have an unhealthy obsession with these two. Partly because I began to suspect last year that RM is either gay or bi and it feels good to realize my gut feeling was right, and also because he and Brandon make a damn fine couple and they’re just so pretty together.

by Anonymousreply 78April 20, 2019 2:23 AM

I like the contrast between their body types. Brandon is still slim and twinky. His legs even look longer when they're both about the same height. Richard is hunky but sliding towards dad bod if he doesn't watch it.

by Anonymousreply 79April 20, 2019 2:24 AM

R77 where are people getting that he's even going on that show?

by Anonymousreply 80April 20, 2019 2:31 AM

I love that Richard said he didn't like LA, met Brandon and then said he loved it in LA. That's kind of romantic.

by Anonymousreply 81April 20, 2019 2:35 AM

R81 me too.

Regardless of whether he’s gay or bi, I’m assuming he’s had relationships with men in the past. (Or maybe just fuck buddies.) For him to move halfway across the world and risk being outed just to be with someone is a pretty big deal.

by Anonymousreply 82April 20, 2019 2:40 AM

R82 I think he's one of those who falls fast and hard, but may not stick around forever. But like R72 said, a hot affair even if brief is still worth the trouble.

by Anonymousreply 83April 20, 2019 2:44 AM

r80 I think they're just assuming. He's not listed for the episode so all the will he won't he about Brandon is irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 84April 20, 2019 2:48 AM

I don’t see Richard listed for that episode of Graham Norton. In fact, has he done any publicity for Rocketman besides Carpool Karaoke?

by Anonymousreply 85April 20, 2019 2:56 AM

R85 he will probably go to the premiere at Cannes

by Anonymousreply 86April 20, 2019 2:58 AM

I wonder if his "pal" Brandon would go

by Anonymousreply 87April 20, 2019 3:23 AM

R87 I think he’ll go, but the big question is in what capacity. How do these events work? Does the significant other of the star typically walk the red carpet with the star? I never pay attention to these types of events.

by Anonymousreply 88April 20, 2019 3:49 AM

Richard will no doubt end up leaving him for a girl. So predictable.

by Anonymousreply 89April 20, 2019 4:15 AM

R89 As long as Brandon doesn't get too invested emotionally... A hot fuck is still a hot fuck. Not like Brandon can't do better.

by Anonymousreply 90April 20, 2019 4:20 AM

R90. True. I'm do envious of these cute young guys who can still get dick. I'm in my early 40s and the well is dry.

by Anonymousreply 91April 20, 2019 4:45 AM

Is it wrong that this made me laugh? Because RM is absolutely the Heath Ledger in all this...

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by Anonymousreply 92April 20, 2019 5:28 AM

[quote]Regardless of whether he’s gay or bi, I’m assuming Richard has had relationships with men in the past. (Or maybe just fuck buddies.) For him to move halfway across the world and risk being outed just to be with someone is a pretty big deal.

Agree. That's why I think this is not just a 'hot fuck', like someone has said before.

Madden has just won a Golden Globe and he is the IT boy after "Bodyguard".

by Anonymousreply 93April 20, 2019 5:57 AM

This is like their honeymoon period, isn't it? Neither is working, so they got nothing much to do except walking the dog, eating, and enjoying each other's company.

by Anonymousreply 94April 20, 2019 6:13 AM

So what do we call this seemingly glass closet? Brokeback Dogwalk?

by Anonymousreply 95April 20, 2019 6:14 AM

R94 and having lots of sex!

by Anonymousreply 96April 20, 2019 6:28 AM

R95 I'm fucking dying at Brokeback Dogwalk. That's perfect.

by Anonymousreply 97April 20, 2019 6:40 AM

R94 That's included in "enjoying each other's company".... I forgot I don't need to stay classy on DL! LOL Yes, they have time to have lots of gay butt sex!

by Anonymousreply 98April 20, 2019 6:41 AM

Ha! Ha! Ha! One of the nastiest of homophobes posted some rant on Instagram claiming that anyone who thinks Richard might be less than straight is an idiot. Because OBVIOUSLY the only reason he’s staying with Brandon is because he and Brandon are in pre-production for a new movie. I responded with, “What movie, and where did you hear about this?” And she promptly deleted her post. Ha! Ha! Ha!

by Anonymousreply 99April 20, 2019 7:23 AM

Most people (straight or gay) love to boast about their partners, spouses and kids. Anytime a celebrity insists on keeping their "private life private" as an excuse not to do so is a huge red flag that says 'I have something to hide.'

by Anonymousreply 100April 20, 2019 7:33 AM

I just wanna see them creampie each other.

by Anonymousreply 101April 20, 2019 7:40 AM

[quote]Richard Madden and "buddy" Brandon Flynn part 6

Part 6?

Are you kidding?

There are 3,101 posts about this?

by Anonymousreply 102April 20, 2019 8:30 AM

Are there really people who still try to insist that Ellie was a beard only because they don't like that Richard started dating her when she was 19 and he was 10 years older? Sure, it's always a bit creepy when a guy who's a lot older starts dating a barely legal girl. But their relationship seemed real and she also posted some stuff on social media after their breakup that showed that she was hurt.

He also was in a relationship with Jenna which seemed real as well. There are even cheating rumours about him because of that relationship. If she had been a beard I doubt we would have had those. Bisexuality exists. Richard isn't suddenly gay and all his girlfriends were beards only because people don't like that he dated young Ellie.

by Anonymousreply 103April 20, 2019 9:10 AM

R32 LOL, there is no way in hell Aron Piper is straight. He's effeminate and pings hard.

by Anonymousreply 104April 20, 2019 9:11 AM

Even though they are only 7 years apart, there's a dad and son feel to this photo.

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by Anonymousreply 105April 20, 2019 9:17 AM

R103, how long does barely legal last? Ellie had been “legal” - hate that term - for three years. Not that I like the idea of someone ten years older being with a teenager but she was well over the age of consent.

by Anonymousreply 106April 20, 2019 9:29 AM

R105 Does Brandon have a daddy fetish? LOL

by Anonymousreply 107April 20, 2019 9:31 AM

Honestly, Richard isn't all that hot. I just hope Brandon doesn't get too attached and has fun while it lasts. Brandon can do so much better so it's not much of a loss.

by Anonymousreply 108April 20, 2019 9:32 AM

R108 Really? I think Richard is smoking hot. Then again, he's kinda let himself go a bit in the past few months. He's definitely gained weight and he looks better with a beard. Even though he has looked better he's still hot imo.

by Anonymousreply 109April 20, 2019 9:35 AM

R108

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by Anonymousreply 110April 20, 2019 9:37 AM

He's definitely not ugly but his face has too much going on; seems too crowded. And he's aging awfully, he shouldn't look that old.

by Anonymousreply 111April 20, 2019 9:39 AM

Wow. No offence, but some of y'all are HARSH. Richard Madden is good-looking and in fine shape by almost anyone's standards. If HE is fat and ugly or old-looking or whatever, well then- I wanna be that kind of fat and ugly and old-looking!

(He might not be super ripped right now like he was for Bodyguard, but that's a sign that he's just out there living his best life and enjoying himself- which we know he recently pointed out he couldn't do when he was working that hard to stay in that shape. When he needs to get back into that kind of shape for work then he will. In the meantime, let the man be happy and live!)

by Anonymousreply 112April 20, 2019 11:41 AM

Both are incredibly hot, they make a sexy couple.

by Anonymousreply 113April 20, 2019 11:44 AM

As a top, Richard is more than fine. Tops don't need to be good-looking... they just need to be well-equipped.

by Anonymousreply 114April 20, 2019 11:44 AM

Sam Smith is not as fug as some of you make out and he is worth about $40m. He will have no trouble finding another boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 115April 20, 2019 11:47 AM

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by Anonymousreply 116April 20, 2019 11:53 AM

hmmm they seem awfully quiet on social media after the latest pics of them came out. i hope everthing is ok for them and are not too overwhelm with the hoopla surrounding their relationship.

also what makes u think Richard is the Top?

by Anonymousreply 117April 20, 2019 12:26 PM

We already talked about this but the fan account posted it now so

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by Anonymousreply 118April 20, 2019 1:20 PM

New photos are disappointing. B looks like a guilty puppy. R still lets him look like his dirty little secret. "True love" my ass. People at least come out of closet for true love, R doesn't dare show basic PDA to B. B deserves a proper boyfriend who would treat him with respect. I am rooting for that.

by Anonymousreply 119April 20, 2019 1:20 PM

You know that not every couple on earth likes to perform PDA, and they certainly aren't obligated to for your amusement. They're not high school kids -- are you?

by Anonymousreply 120April 20, 2019 1:22 PM

R119 they are just photos of a few minutes of their day as they walk to the store. We have no idea of how their relationship actually is like.

by Anonymousreply 121April 20, 2019 1:23 PM

r118 lol Richard fans were trying to deny so hard that Brandon was in Scotland around that time and accused us of making stuff up!

by Anonymousreply 122April 20, 2019 1:23 PM

It would have been the perfect picture if only the dog were wearing sunglasses, too. Everybody going incognito.

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by Anonymousreply 123April 20, 2019 1:26 PM

If I were R, knowingly the media stir, I would not allow the one I love be treated in media like this. I would be proud if him and our love. But R doesn't seem to love him enough.

by Anonymousreply 124April 20, 2019 1:29 PM

R124 A total loon

by Anonymousreply 125April 20, 2019 1:34 PM

Give Richard same time, he will show his love for Brandon in time, maybe he will bring Bradon with him to the premiere and he will show him around, we will see. but I don't think a few pap pics can show what they feel for each other, a lot of those pics with celebrity couples are fake so I prefer something more natural and domestic like them

by Anonymousreply 126April 20, 2019 1:35 PM

R123 what!?

by Anonymousreply 127April 20, 2019 1:36 PM

R92 That is everything, and very well done. Please do more with them as famous gay couples.

by Anonymousreply 128April 20, 2019 1:40 PM

How did the media treat Brandon for Richard to Stand up for him? all they say is he’s Sam Smith’s ex, what show he is in and the terms ‘roommate’ or ‘pal’ stop the drama

by Anonymousreply 129April 20, 2019 1:54 PM

R108 In what world Brandon can do better lol Fangirls are luclnatic these days I see

by Anonymousreply 130April 20, 2019 2:10 PM

lunatic*

by Anonymousreply 131April 20, 2019 2:10 PM

I still dont know if this set of pics were planned or not. Wht didnt they just drive to the pet store? It seems like a long walk going all the way to get their dog food and the pap following them there. Rocketman will be out in the next 2 weeks so is this some type if pr for the movie to attract a certain demo?

by Anonymousreply 132April 20, 2019 2:18 PM

R104 Imo, not really. I was surprised cause I thought he must be gay one, not omar. Maybe he's stright-leaning bisexual or somethimg like that.

by Anonymousreply 133April 20, 2019 2:19 PM

R132 I doubt this is pr for the movie. I think it’s them starting to be open about their relationship.

by Anonymousreply 134April 20, 2019 2:38 PM

R132 why would you drive to the petstore If you have a dog? Most people like to walk their dogs whenever there is the opportunity ...I don't think it's that far Of a walk I think the paps just know where they live

by Anonymousreply 135April 20, 2019 2:55 PM

R133, yes, I would have expected that too. He really is very convincing in his role.

As for Richard needing to make a statement (verbal or via PDA) so it doesn't feel like he is keeping it a secret, I think that it is still too soon to tell if he will be willing to do that, and he deserves a little time to adjust in my view.

by Anonymousreply 136April 20, 2019 3:10 PM

R119 Exactly. People use the excuse that Richard is just "private". Nobody is asking for him to detail how he fucks Brandon, or even for him to come out. All they're saying is if he really doesn't care about what people think, and if he really loves Brandon, he should treat him the same as his ex-girlfriends and not be afraid to show PDA. He is royally pissed off in the new pics and walks a good three feet away from him, to not give the impression that Brandon is his SO. I think it's shitty. Brandon deserves better. He deserves better than to be Richard's dirty little secret.

by Anonymousreply 137April 20, 2019 3:22 PM

[Quote]If I were R, knowingly the media stir, I would not allow the one I love be treated in media like this. I would be proud if him and our love. But R doesn't seem to love him enough.

PREACH.

by Anonymousreply 138April 20, 2019 3:26 PM

[Quote]a lot of those pics with celebrity couples are fake so I prefer something more natural and domestic like them

DOMESTIC?! There is so much space between them that you could fill the space with like 4 people. Doesn't look like "love" to me.

by Anonymousreply 139April 20, 2019 3:28 PM

The 12 year olds have arrived! How can you see love and what’s real about a relationship in a picture taken by paps?

by Anonymousreply 140April 20, 2019 3:32 PM

This really shows a generation gap. Younger guys don't need to make a grand coming out statement because it's no big deal. They're clearly not hiding anything, they're living their lives.

by Anonymousreply 141April 20, 2019 3:34 PM

[Quote]They're clearly not hiding anything, they're living their lives.

Um, yes they are. You wouldn't think they're a couple from looking at the pics. As long as Richard is not treating him the same as his ex-girlfriends, then yeah, they are hiding.

by Anonymousreply 142April 20, 2019 3:37 PM

R135 Right? And who TF would want to drive anywhere in LA or ANY big city if the destination is within walking distance?

/hates driving in city traffic

by Anonymousreply 143April 20, 2019 3:43 PM

R132 - that pet store is the one in Franklin Village, right by the same block or two strip of bars and restaurants that almost all of their pics have been snapped at. It’s pretty clear that Brandon’s apartment is in the neighborhood and is in walking distance. I’m the one that posted in thread ONE that I saw them on that block while dining at Birds at least 2 months ago and they were all over each other (PDA and all). I recognized RM eventually but still never knew who BF was - just figured he was the boyfriend. Very obvious they were together. Case closed. Next.

by Anonymousreply 144April 20, 2019 3:44 PM

R144 thank you! So that means they ARE out in public but just tend to shy away from the paps.

by Anonymousreply 145April 20, 2019 3:48 PM

I can’t believe I’m watching Bodyguard just because of all this. It better be good.

by Anonymousreply 146April 20, 2019 3:55 PM

R144 that's so cute , I'm glad they were able able to be publicly together without paps but I feel like from now on the paps are going to be trying desperately to snap pics of any pda :/

by Anonymousreply 147April 20, 2019 3:56 PM

R147 There is now definitely a hunt for PDA pics that would be highly marketable. Those paps will be hunting them down. Sad

by Anonymousreply 148April 20, 2019 3:58 PM

What type of pda? hugging? kissing?

by Anonymousreply 149April 20, 2019 4:00 PM

R149 Richard bottoming

by Anonymousreply 150April 20, 2019 4:02 PM

That’s why many don’t come out. ⬆️ Crude

by Anonymousreply 151April 20, 2019 4:04 PM

R144 Did they kiss in public?

by Anonymousreply 152April 20, 2019 4:04 PM

R137 My thoughts exactly.

R144 If that was really them, you just backed up my point. I feel sorry for B. It must have hurt when R physically distanced when spotted paps.

by Anonymousreply 153April 20, 2019 4:13 PM

I don't think Brandon would mind because they are probably together at every other point of the day when the paps arent around too and surely are open with friend and family

by Anonymousreply 154April 20, 2019 4:17 PM

R153 oh please. You act like Brandon is a child and has no participation in any of this. Like you know what they both want and don’t want.

by Anonymousreply 155April 20, 2019 4:22 PM

R153 oh please. You act like Brandon is a child and has no participation in any of this. Like you know what they both want and don’t want.

by Anonymousreply 156April 20, 2019 4:22 PM

if its really Franklin Village thn its sad that the paps found them in their safe haven. I wish they had a bit of time maybe 1 year before the tabloids found out , like i said before I wouldnt be surprised if they break up soon ...its just too much for a new couple to take...i couldnt do it.

by Anonymousreply 157April 20, 2019 4:25 PM

R144 Aww they are so sweet, how was Richard? I bet he's a passionate lover.

by Anonymousreply 158April 20, 2019 4:27 PM

R154 so when it matters for broadest audience R treats him like shit and that's fine? That is so miserable from R. When you really love someone you want to protect him, you don't want to hide him, you treat him with respect. That's what a real man does. In this relationship B is the only real man and he has sacrified much so far.

by Anonymousreply 159April 20, 2019 4:28 PM

Protect him from what exactly? Have i missed something? Google doesn’t show me that something happened

by Anonymousreply 160April 20, 2019 4:31 PM

R159 we have a few pics taken by paps and you are psychoanalyzing the whole relationship based on this? They went to the store to buy cat food with their dog. The other day there were pics with Madden with his hands on Brandon and people argued that Madden was high/injured and needed to be held up. It’s hilarious all this pic analysis.

by Anonymousreply 161April 20, 2019 4:33 PM

^dog food.

by Anonymousreply 162April 20, 2019 4:33 PM

That's an awful lot of assumption being made based on just one or two photos where they're walking 6 feet apart.

by Anonymousreply 163April 20, 2019 4:40 PM

[quote]Give Richard same time, he will show his love for Brandon in time

I'm excited.

by Anonymousreply 164April 20, 2019 5:00 PM

ooooh interesting! Another person on twitter also confirmed that this is in Franklin Village near Los Feliz on a little strip. The comment is under the photos from the twitter Richard madden news. I think the guy is named Nikolas something.

by Anonymousreply 165April 20, 2019 5:03 PM

R157 Well, if they're so afraid that the paps might spot them showing a tiny bit of PDA maybe the relationship wasn't meant to last. If they break up over this then the relationship just wasn't strong to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 166April 20, 2019 5:07 PM

[Quote]so when it matters for broadest audience R treats him like shit and that's fine? That is so miserable from R. When you really love someone you want to protect him, you don't want to hide him, you treat him with respect. That's what a real man does. In this relationship B is the only real man and he has sacrified much so far.

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by Anonymousreply 167April 20, 2019 5:09 PM

R144 Is so full of shit. He posts the same over and over again, yet never goes into detail. Come on guys, why do you believe this shit?! With the way they're behaving in the pap pics, do you really think they would show any PDA in public?!

by Anonymousreply 168April 20, 2019 5:13 PM

[quote][R159] we have a few pics taken by paps and you are psychoanalyzing the whole relationship based on this? They went to the store to buy cat food with their dog. The other day there were pics with Madden with his hands on Brandon and people argued that Madden was high/injured and needed to be held up. It’s hilarious all this pic analysis.

Honey, this is DL.

The sleuths here can MacGyver the intimate details of anyone's life from the crease in the pants and microns of hair placement...are are usually right.

by Anonymousreply 169April 20, 2019 5:14 PM

The fact that you guys act like Richard is an asshole for not defending Brandon when most of the negative comments come from here. All the media mentions is that he used to date Sam Smith. Even negative comments are on fanpages, not Brandon or Richard's IG.

by Anonymousreply 170April 20, 2019 5:14 PM

But what does Brandon need defending from? He’s out there looking fine and has a new man in his life and making all that acting money. He’s also a grown ass man.

by Anonymousreply 171April 20, 2019 5:17 PM

R168 I kind of agree. Other people who've spotted them in public didn't say anything about PDA. It's probably why they were able to go under the radar so long. Like the guy who saw them in the London record store. Just casually mentioned meeting them like they were hanging out together. There were no paps there so no reason not to be holding hands or something.

by Anonymousreply 172April 20, 2019 5:19 PM

They didn't like a single post on ig since yesterday, are they traveling? Brandon usually likes a lot of posts

by Anonymousreply 173April 20, 2019 5:21 PM

Brandon is being used. Bisexual men are never trustworthy. Richard is proof of this by the way he prioritizes his career before his love life. He won't show any PDA with his supposed "love". How is this ok?! Richard treats Brandon like shit, like he's his dirty little secret. Brandon is too blinded by love that he would agree to this. Just sad. Brandon is so much better than this. I hope he comes to his senses. He deserves better, he deserves a guy who isn't ashamed or afraid to be seen with him in public.

by Anonymousreply 174April 20, 2019 5:21 PM

Lol, some of yall are literally 12yo. What has brandon sacrificed exactly? Treats him like shit? As if you live with them lol. Please. You know nothing and neither do i so stop treating brandon like a victim when he is a part of this as well. Richard has always been extra private with his love life. The only girl hes brought to premieres is jenna and after YEARS of dating. He didnt walk red carpets with ellie and dated over a year. Why would he start flaunting PDA out of nowhere with brandon? You want the guy to change who he is bc he might be dating B? Let him be ffs. He doesnt owe us anything and clearly brandon is happy so i dont understand why some of yall act so offended that he doesnt like making out with him in the middle of a dog walk. He is open with his friends and family. He doesnt owe YOU anything just bc you want 2 guys making out in public.

by Anonymousreply 175April 20, 2019 5:26 PM

Maybe at the restaurant, Richard was licking the dessert from Brandon's mouth

by Anonymousreply 176April 20, 2019 5:26 PM

Why does this particular thread reminds me of the movie Brokeback Mountain?

by Anonymousreply 177April 20, 2019 5:27 PM

R175 PRIVATE?! Yet he was never afraid to show PDA like holding hands with any of his ex-girlfriends, something he's too afraid or ashamed to do with Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 178April 20, 2019 5:28 PM

[quote]Brandon is being used. Bisexual men are never trustworthy. Richard is proof of this by the way he prioritizes his career before his love life. He won't show any PDA with his supposed "love". How is this ok?! Richard treats Brandon like shit, like he's his dirty little secret. Brandon is too blinded by love that he would agree to this. Just sad. Brandon is so much better than this. I hope he comes to his senses. He deserves better, he deserves a guy who isn't ashamed or afraid to be seen with him in public.

Some of the Marys here are from the Jackson/Dylan fangayobsessive threads, I see.

Glad you've found a new gay couple to obsess about.

by Anonymousreply 179April 20, 2019 5:32 PM

B &R are not liking any single post since yesterday on instagram because the paps are invading their privacy and its getting to them.

by Anonymousreply 180April 20, 2019 5:32 PM

Yes. Private. You are basing your whole argument on a few pap pics where he literally spotted the cameras. He has said how paranoid he is when it comes to paparazzi in many interviews. The pics with his girlfriends showing pda were taken when the paps werent noticed. Like the firs bunch of pics we got where he is confortable hugging B. The guy hates paparazzis and you want him to start making out with B in front of them? The delusion is real

by Anonymousreply 181April 20, 2019 5:33 PM

R180 Like I said, if paps are enough to disturb them then the relationship wasn't meant to last in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 182April 20, 2019 5:36 PM

R181 Yet he was never afraid to hold his ex-girlfriend's hand, even with all the paps present. Why isn't he treating Brandon the same way? I think he suffers from internalized homophobia and self loathing. He probably thinks gay PDA is bad, hence why he won't hold his boyfriend's hand in public.

by Anonymousreply 183April 20, 2019 5:38 PM

Madden is up for the role of Bond. He's not saying anything until that decision is made. The dog, however, is clearly gay.

by Anonymousreply 184April 20, 2019 5:40 PM

Looool. Sure. You know the guy so well. (Sorry i dond reply to you directly, i dont know how this thing works). Again. Hoy many pics of him holdinf ellies hand do we have? Probably 2. In the course of 18 months. And u want an official statement of the nature of his and Bs relationship when we dont know wtf is going on? He walked red carpets alone when ellie was in the same event. Was he disrespecting her as well there? You need to understand that what people do publucly doesnt reflect on what they do indoors. Someone who is all over their significant other publicly (hey bella thorne) doesnt love more than someone who isnt really into that sort of thing. Stop trying to overanalyze a few pap pics. Its literally nonsense

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by Anonymousreply 186April 20, 2019 5:48 PM

Flynn has thin legs.

by Anonymousreply 187April 20, 2019 5:49 PM

To prove that blind items are bullshit, none even suspected this. Not one hint RM is even bi. But they’ll soon be jumping all over this bandwagon with “inside” gossip. Just you wait.

by Anonymousreply 188April 20, 2019 5:50 PM

They are not online liking pics because it’s the weekend and they are traveling or fucking all day or preparing for the next walk with Charlie.

by Anonymousreply 189April 20, 2019 5:53 PM

R186 Nope, because he was at least willing to hold her hand some times, unlike with Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 190April 20, 2019 5:53 PM

Thats true. CDAN posted 2 blind items and Blindgossip has one on them already.

by Anonymousreply 191April 20, 2019 5:55 PM

R189 you have literally seen pics of them going to the pet store. That’s it. Stop jumping to conclusions about their lack of PDA in their entire time together..

by Anonymousreply 192April 20, 2019 5:55 PM

r190 You're comparing years of photos to three weeks. And the big fact that we don't know they are actually together.

by Anonymousreply 193April 20, 2019 5:55 PM

R186 Knowing DL, some will just claim that's because Jenna was a beard and they didn't have time to move together and hold hands and pretend to be a couple once they spotted the paps.

Some people need to step away from the keyboard and get some fresh air.

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by Anonymousreply 195April 20, 2019 6:02 PM

We will see pictures of them holding hands when Brandon will decide to buy some tote bag, his hands are always full lol

by Anonymousreply 196April 20, 2019 6:03 PM

What is that pale and pasty wet thing that he has his arms around?

by Anonymousreply 197April 20, 2019 6:04 PM

She is hideous indeed, r197.

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by Anonymousreply 199April 20, 2019 6:20 PM

Calling Ellie Bamber ugly is a new low... And such a lie

by Anonymousreply 200April 20, 2019 6:25 PM

R195 Well, he certainly wasn't afraid of PDA with her. He's only afraid of showing PDA with Brandon, isn't that weird? :)

by Anonymousreply 201April 20, 2019 6:26 PM

R195 I remember having that thought when I originally saw those photos. I thought he seemed way more interested in his male friend than Ellie. But then I let it go bc at the time I assumed he was straight

by Anonymousreply 202April 20, 2019 6:27 PM

R201 lol. You are demented. It’s been 3 weeks and a few pics.

by Anonymousreply 203April 20, 2019 6:28 PM

R199 R202

While 'dating' his 'gfs', it seems that Richard was enjoying his best -gay- life in HCL........

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by Anonymousreply 204April 20, 2019 6:28 PM

R201 he's been with Brandon a short while and they haven't been photographed on nights out or days at the beach... They are hardly going to show pda while buying dog food

by Anonymousreply 205April 20, 2019 6:28 PM

She isn't particularly beautiful though, r200. Jenna looks way prettier imo.

by Anonymousreply 206April 20, 2019 6:29 PM

R204 he has plenty of gay friends it's not shocking to think he went clubbing with them whether he's gay/bi or straight

by Anonymousreply 207April 20, 2019 6:29 PM

R195 WOW those photos are awkward. They remind me of Bradley and Irina at the beach.

by Anonymousreply 208April 20, 2019 6:32 PM

R207 Richard is not straight.

HCL=Hard Cock Life night club

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by Anonymousreply 209April 20, 2019 6:37 PM

R205 The excuses are endless. They are only papped buying dog food. Convenient, isn't it? The point is yes, these pics only show a few moments of their day, but they are still showing a part of a bigger picture, that they are afraid to show affection. People here like to excuse that it's just because Richard is so private, yet we have endless pap pics of him showing plenty of PDA with his ex-girlfriends, so it certainly can't be the fact that Richard is private. Fact is Richard is a hypocrite, too afraid to hurt his career if he shows any gay PDA with his boyfriend. That's the sad truth and you know it. And I bet we won't see any PDA in new pap pics either, or the ones after that. In fact, I'm convinced R144 is full of shit because there is no way in hell Richard would be that open with Brandon when he's scared shitless of being affectionate with his boyfriend in the pap pics. There will never be pap pics of them kissing or holding hands, because Richard will never allow it. Not in public. They might be out to their friends and family, but certainly not to the public. I stand by what I said, Brandon deserves better. Brandon is a fool if he thinks Richard will change for him. It's never going to happen.

by Anonymousreply 210April 20, 2019 6:38 PM

You seem to forget the fact that this is the first time that Richard is seeing with a man, just the fact that we have pictures of them together is surprising. I'm sure we will see more pictures of them acting like a couple. I hope to see them at the premiere!

by Anonymousreply 211April 20, 2019 6:39 PM

R210 it’s not that deep. Calm down. It’s 3 days of their lives going to run errands!! You sound so unhinged about it. Give it time. Maybe they won’t last, maybe they are not a good match or opposite. We know NOTHING

by Anonymousreply 212April 20, 2019 6:41 PM

210 is an idiot

by Anonymousreply 213April 20, 2019 6:42 PM

Richard loves the Ibiza party scene wouldn't be surprised to see him bring Brandon there this summer

by Anonymousreply 214April 20, 2019 6:43 PM

"...endless pap pics of him showing plenty of PDA with his ex-girlfriends."

I wasn't aware that 3 or 4 photos over the course of 10 years or so constituted "endless."

by Anonymousreply 215April 20, 2019 6:44 PM

210 go outside. Too much time on your own is doing things to you. Not in a good way

by Anonymousreply 216April 20, 2019 6:45 PM

the only recent pap shots of Richard all have him with Brandon whereas some of you are acting as if he is trying to avoid being seen with him at all hahaha

by Anonymousreply 217April 20, 2019 6:47 PM

R217 just R210 who has a major agenda of creating some fake drama. Likely a Brandon/Sam stan seething

by Anonymousreply 218April 20, 2019 6:52 PM

some food for thought

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by Anonymousreply 219April 20, 2019 6:54 PM

R188 is right, the blind items have started where they were not there before. I do like Richard as an actor and he comes across like fairly unassuming guy. No matter what the truth between he and Brandon happens to be (dating, fuck buddies, friends) the fact that there has been major online speculation about his sexuality already has put him out of the running for Bond. If he doesn’t know that, then he’s naive. Just read the Wikipedia on Antony Hamilton, Australian actor who had a good shot at Bond in the 80’s until Albert Broccoli got cold feet over him being gay.

Ps: personally I don’t give a fuck about an actor’s sexuality. I do think Madden would make a good Bond.

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by Anonymousreply 220April 20, 2019 6:56 PM

R210 Bad breakup with a bi guy.

by Anonymousreply 221April 20, 2019 6:58 PM

R220 Richard has stated numerous times recently that he isn't in the running to be bond and it doesn't even seem like he would like too.

by Anonymousreply 222April 20, 2019 6:59 PM

Why they keep calling the papz? They don't wanna hide anything...

by Anonymousreply 223April 20, 2019 7:00 PM

Laugh now, but when they break up (when, not if) I'll be the first to say "told you so". We'll see who is right soon enough. Oh, and I won't be sad. Brandon deserves better than a lying, cheating bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 224April 20, 2019 7:00 PM

R219 I never thought they called them. What would be the purpose? To catch them walking? If they're calling the paps at least give us a show

by Anonymousreply 225April 20, 2019 7:01 PM

R224 it is highly likely they will break up. Most relationships end. But be right there ready to celebrate for all your weird reasons.

by Anonymousreply 226April 20, 2019 7:02 PM

R222. I am aware of that. Publicly no one is in the running for Bond right now. The Bond folks are trying to get Bond 25 off the ground. I don’t think anyone will even be seriously considered until after Bond 25 is released (which is the right thing to do). It’s the media pumping up the Bond speculation. I’m saying down the line, if Madden wants Bond, no matter how good he will be in the role- he won’t get it.

by Anonymousreply 227April 20, 2019 7:03 PM

R224 "lying, cheating bisexual" Richard isn't even out and already you've already decided all this about him?

by Anonymousreply 228April 20, 2019 7:06 PM

Maybe Brandon will be the love of his life, maybe they will get married!! Yes, I'm a romantic at heart!

by Anonymousreply 229April 20, 2019 7:06 PM

R224 Sam Smith, don't you have an album to work on or something?

by Anonymousreply 230April 20, 2019 7:10 PM

R220 He already said he won't be Bond before the photos came out dumb fuck.

by Anonymousreply 231April 20, 2019 7:13 PM

Bond is a shitty character. The only good thing abt those movies is the paycheck. Other than that, a hard pass. The public in genral isnt that interested anymore. And i dont thunk it did daniel craig any favors either, so really R isnt missing out on anything if he doesnt get it

by Anonymousreply 232April 20, 2019 7:24 PM

Richard is not getting Bond and I doubt he expects to. Agree r232

by Anonymousreply 233April 20, 2019 7:29 PM

Ok time to post some pictures

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by Anonymousreply 234April 20, 2019 7:44 PM
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by Anonymousreply 235April 20, 2019 7:47 PM
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by Anonymousreply 236April 20, 2019 7:48 PM

Sexy

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by Anonymousreply 237April 20, 2019 7:49 PM

They look damn good together.

by Anonymousreply 238April 20, 2019 7:53 PM

Gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 239April 20, 2019 7:54 PM

Brandon's hands on Richard

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by Anonymousreply 240April 20, 2019 7:55 PM

Brandon is really cute, I bet Richard was totally enchanted when he met him

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by Anonymousreply 241April 20, 2019 8:13 PM

I'm really rooting for these two. Richard doesn't even have to show any PDA, the fact that he knows I'm sure about the rumors at this point yet they still hang out in public like usual is enough. He dgaf. The guy must be really into Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 242April 20, 2019 8:16 PM

R241 Maybe he fell in love with him while watching him in 13 Reasons Why. Justin is a really lovable character despite all his flaws.

by Anonymousreply 243April 20, 2019 8:17 PM

Agreed @ R241. It is impossible NOT to fall in love with him totally.

by Anonymousreply 244April 20, 2019 8:17 PM

He can be very adorable and also like this...

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by Anonymousreply 245April 20, 2019 8:18 PM

I know everyone is thirsting for Richard but I find Brandon way cuter.

by Anonymousreply 246April 20, 2019 8:20 PM

They live together. They walk a dog together. They shop together. They hike together. I know all of you are as old as Ms Marple but apparently not as smart.

by Anonymousreply 247April 20, 2019 8:20 PM

R247 virtually everyone at DL figured out several weeks ago that they're in a relationship. Try to keep up.

by Anonymousreply 248April 20, 2019 8:23 PM

R246 I think Brandon is cuter too. it’s his openness that makes him sexy and free. He is not restrained.

by Anonymousreply 249April 20, 2019 8:23 PM

R248 can't tell time. Awww. That's cute on a toddler.

by Anonymousreply 250April 20, 2019 8:25 PM

R249 usually bottoms are more open

by Anonymousreply 251April 20, 2019 8:32 PM

R251 that double meaning put some wild images in my head of these 2.

by Anonymousreply 252April 20, 2019 8:37 PM

R251

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by Anonymousreply 253April 20, 2019 8:40 PM

Richard probably licks that pink hole like a pussy.

by Anonymousreply 254April 20, 2019 8:48 PM

This is exactly the public image of B that R should protect him from: "B offered his LA home to R and haha nudge-nudge his hole like every thirsty little poof does to a hot, straight guy". Instead, R only cares about his own public image and related HW roles. If R treated B as his boyfriend, that would make them look equal in public perception. What the public got so far is that B is not worth it. I hope that R will acknowedge their relationship soon. Otherwise he doesn't deserve B.

by Anonymousreply 255April 20, 2019 8:56 PM

R255 Never stop. It’s so hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 256April 20, 2019 9:02 PM

R255 let me Guess you want Brandon back with Sam Smith lol

by Anonymousreply 257April 20, 2019 9:04 PM

R255

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by Anonymousreply 258April 20, 2019 9:07 PM

r255 as a Brandon fan, Brandon’s a grown man. If he didn’t want to be with Richard, he wouldn’t be. He’s obviously happier now than he was last year when he was drinking too much. Richard obviously makes him happy. That’s all we care about. I’m not one to force anyone out of the closet and Richard possibly liking men and women doesn’t make him any less likely to come out than if he was dating just a closeted gay man.

by Anonymousreply 259April 20, 2019 9:08 PM

Oh, god. The Brandon-Sam fan is back again.

PSA: Brandon is a grown-ass man. He's free to make his own decisions in love and life.

by Anonymousreply 260April 20, 2019 9:09 PM

r260 lol I wonder if they would be one of the ones leaving “Dancing with a under Brandon posts because how dare Brandon try to be happy again :((

by Anonymousreply 261April 20, 2019 9:10 PM

*with a Stranger

Lol it cut off

by Anonymousreply 262April 20, 2019 9:11 PM

R259 Brandon is an idiot if he thinks Richard will EVER come out for him. He won't even show any PDA on walks together ffs! Brandon should stop and think for a second. Richard is never going to change. His career is too important. Brandon will only end up hurt. Yes, Brandon is old enough to decide for himself what he wants, but this has disaster written all over it.

by Anonymousreply 263April 20, 2019 9:16 PM

My god. Sam fans need to let Brandon go. I’m a Brandon fan ( stylishflynn on twitter ) and some of you are ridiculous. Brandon’s happiness is all that matters to me, and Richard seems to make him really fucking happy. I’d rather him be happy and in a secret relationship with Richard until Richard’s ready to come out, than have him drinking himself to death over Sam again. Literally fuck off and leave him alone. He’s not your concern anymore. You guys only pretended to like him anyway, you were all quick to turn on him once the break up happened, and then when Richard came along.

by Anonymousreply 264April 20, 2019 9:19 PM

Brandon comes across as stupid and naive. I guess love really does make people blind. Brandon is a brilliant example. Richard will never sacrifice his career for Brandon. He will always be Richard's dirty little secret. I hope he's happy with their arrangement. I know I wouldn't be.

by Anonymousreply 265April 20, 2019 9:19 PM

I still think this is such a random pairing. I remember in an interview Richard saying he was a big Netflix fan and would binge watch shows like Ozark and Black Mirror. I wouldn't be surprised if he also watched 13RW and knew about Brandon and maybe even had a crush on him before they even met.

by Anonymousreply 266April 20, 2019 9:19 PM

God, some of you are really dense.

He is not a dirty little secret, in fact everybody knows it. Both seem perfectly fine

by Anonymousreply 267April 20, 2019 9:21 PM

R266 I wondered about that, too. The romantic in me hopes that he developed a crush on Brandon before even meeting him.

by Anonymousreply 268April 20, 2019 9:22 PM

The Sam Smith fans are insufferable

by Anonymousreply 269April 20, 2019 9:23 PM

I think Sam fans for a moment believed the homely dude could get the hot guy. And now Brandon has upgraded to some stereotypically hot dude and it’s upsetting. Like that dude here going on and on and on....

by Anonymousreply 270April 20, 2019 9:24 PM

R267 Sure, that is why they seem so lovey-dovey in all the pap pics! They simply can't keep their hands off each other! Oh, wait...

by Anonymousreply 271April 20, 2019 9:25 PM

And the thread became boring just like this. Wake me up when Richard comes out (that's if he ever does).

by Anonymousreply 272April 20, 2019 9:26 PM

R269 sam smith is insufferable so it is no wonder

by Anonymousreply 273April 20, 2019 9:27 PM

I'm not a Sam Smith fan. Trolldar me if you don't believe me.

by Anonymousreply 274April 20, 2019 9:30 PM

r268 and Brandon liked GoT :) that’s so cute if he watched it before and found him cute lol

by Anonymousreply 275April 20, 2019 9:30 PM

Omg these sam fans couldnt be more annoying. Let brandon be happy ffs. He seems in a really good place right now with richard. Hes not a dirty little secret, everybody is speculating and they dont give a fuck. They are living their life not giving a shit abt what people say and their families and friends clearly all know abt them, whatever they are. So, stop being pressed over 2 pap pics. Trying to force someone to come out is the ugliest thing. They dont owe u shit and are perfectly happy the way things are otherwise this thing would have been over before it even began

by Anonymousreply 276April 20, 2019 9:32 PM

R275 imagine marveling at the magnificent ass of the King in the North onscreen and dreaming of someday having that ass to yourself. It's a dream come true!

by Anonymousreply 277April 20, 2019 9:33 PM

R270 I’ve seen countless comments from all over the web talking about what an upgrade from Sam. Truth hurts. Sam/Brandon fans need to let it go.

by Anonymousreply 278April 20, 2019 9:33 PM

They bring up that Sam is rich lol like Richard is on food stamps.

by Anonymousreply 279April 20, 2019 9:36 PM

Come on, Sam only said nice things about Brandon after they break up. He is not guilty of having some rude fans (every celebrity has some rude fans)

by Anonymousreply 280April 20, 2019 9:41 PM

Sam was immature and went and refollowed and unfollowed Richard twice now. Doesn’t seem like he’s any better than his fans. He also hinted at calling Brandon an asshole in an interview before saving himself. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 281April 20, 2019 9:44 PM

R281 LOL it must sting when your ex upgrades and looks happier than ever!

by Anonymousreply 282April 20, 2019 9:48 PM

R265 He does come across as naive. It's almost like he got excited by the hot guy's attention so he's willing to take what he can get. Like walking 5 feet apart lol. But he's only 25 so I guess he still has some lessons to learn.

by Anonymousreply 283April 20, 2019 10:00 PM

I hope we will get pictures of them making out so you guys can shut up!

by Anonymousreply 284April 20, 2019 10:05 PM

Richard is eating this right now

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by Anonymousreply 285April 20, 2019 10:06 PM

R283 Brandon is one lucky guy. Facts. Madden is lucky as well and they both know it.

by Anonymousreply 286April 20, 2019 10:06 PM

Brandon himself has made it clear that he feels LUCKY and BLESSED with Richard:

asia_chow: We can’t ~all~ be as lucky as Brandon💫 @flynnagin11 @maddenrichard

flynnagin11: #blessed 23w 20 likes Reply

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by Anonymousreply 287April 20, 2019 10:17 PM

Damn, r285, that's hot. But some fangirls frequent this thread I'm sure you've disturbed them.

by Anonymousreply 288April 20, 2019 10:19 PM

Someone who is apparently in the know about Richard being a bottom

"brandon must be serving inches because richard a big ole bottom

my good hollywood sis who is always in the know done spilled this tea to me"

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by Anonymousreply 289April 20, 2019 10:30 PM

I’ll just leave this here.

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by Anonymousreply 290April 20, 2019 10:32 PM

R289 now everybody is the know meanwhile there has never been a rumor about him until he was papped with Flynn 2 weeks ago,

by Anonymousreply 291April 20, 2019 10:43 PM

Well since Brandon's been with Sam Smith, I assume he's at least vers. Not buying he's a total bottom. My guess is they flip.

by Anonymousreply 292April 20, 2019 10:46 PM

Brandon as the top here is laughable... Not that he couldn't top but he would find someone like his ex Miles to top.

by Anonymousreply 293April 20, 2019 10:48 PM

[quote]now everybody is the know meanwhile there has never been a rumor about him until he was papped with Flynn 2 weeks ago,

See r188. Even DL thought he’s straight.

by Anonymousreply 294April 20, 2019 10:57 PM

Threesome from Ontd! "I saw Brandon Flynn at Pavilions in West Hollywood earlier this week. A friend pointed him out cause I wouldn’t have recognized him. He said “it’s the 13 Reasons” guy and I thought Dylan Minnette, but no. I didn’t care much because he was with two other guys that weren’t Richard Madden."

by Anonymousreply 295April 20, 2019 11:00 PM

I don’t which are worse trolls between the “everyone knows Richard is a bottom and has been incognito fucking everyone in WeHo and London all these years” and the”Sam is the one true protector of Brandon and Richard is trash”.

by Anonymousreply 296April 20, 2019 11:10 PM

someone on ontd spotted Brandon earlier this week at the Pavillions in West Hollywood and he was out with two other guys and no Richard,so no they are not inseperable as oeople think they are.

by Anonymousreply 297April 20, 2019 11:11 PM

R297 R295 Shock! Horror! Gay man has male friends other than the man he lives with!

by Anonymousreply 298April 20, 2019 11:13 PM

Is Pavilions a sex club? Or was he just spotted out with people like a regular human?

by Anonymousreply 299April 20, 2019 11:14 PM

R289 Don’t believe it. Too little too late. Now everyone is trying to act like they know everything about his private life.

by Anonymousreply 300April 20, 2019 11:15 PM

R298 And they also implied he is fucking all his male companions. A boy should be so lucky! Orgy time!

by Anonymousreply 301April 20, 2019 11:16 PM

R300 true. Sounds like ontd fanfiction. Google tells me Pavilions is grocery store in West Hollywood

by Anonymousreply 302April 20, 2019 11:17 PM

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by Anonymousreply 303April 20, 2019 11:19 PM

Richard seems like a top to me, and his hand placement last week indicate that he seems possesive and I'm in charge type of guy.

by Anonymousreply 304April 20, 2019 11:22 PM

ONTD is just as bad as CDAN. They had years to expose his bisexual leanings. So transparent.

by Anonymousreply 305April 20, 2019 11:23 PM

Brandon has lived in la for a while so him hanging out with friends isn't surprising but I'm intrigued to see who Richard hangs out with In the city when he's not with Brandon

by Anonymousreply 306April 20, 2019 11:26 PM

apperantly An EW employee stated on twitter while discussing it with her friends that R & B's relationship has been confirmed by an inside source at a EW office.

by Anonymousreply 307April 20, 2019 11:37 PM

R307 wow then we will get soon an official article where they will call them "boyfriends", I think they will make an official appearance at Richard's premiere!

by Anonymousreply 308April 20, 2019 11:39 PM

R407 Now that’s some good tea!

by Anonymousreply 309April 20, 2019 11:39 PM

I meant R307

See how excited I am!

by Anonymousreply 310April 20, 2019 11:42 PM

Good for them, man Brandon’s boypussy must be sweet. It’s got Richard pussmatized.

by Anonymousreply 311April 20, 2019 11:43 PM

On the twitter search bar type: "#confirmed ew office" u guys will see it.

by Anonymousreply 312April 20, 2019 11:44 PM

R307 Who is this inside source? Deep Throat?

by Anonymousreply 313April 20, 2019 11:45 PM

Why are you all so quick to believe this EW rumor?

by Anonymousreply 314April 20, 2019 11:46 PM

R307 Why didn't you just link the tweet?

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by Anonymousreply 315April 20, 2019 11:49 PM

So Charlie ratted them out to EW...

by Anonymousreply 316April 20, 2019 11:49 PM

I just realized the date of that “confirmed” post is 4/8. Yet hardly anyone knows yet because she didn’t @ or # them, lol.

I’m looking forward to seeing some fangirls’ heads explode.

by Anonymousreply 317April 20, 2019 11:49 PM

Thanks to frau at EW

by Anonymousreply 318April 20, 2019 11:52 PM

She’s not a fan of Flynn

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by Anonymousreply 319April 20, 2019 11:52 PM

R317 fangirls are here. Exploding heads to happen soon. To ask a dumb question before people get too excited if the “confirmed” is just the hand placement means more than friends. Cause I can see this chick losing her job once her tweet goes viral.

by Anonymousreply 320April 20, 2019 11:52 PM

I wonder how BF is a garbage person?

by Anonymousreply 321April 20, 2019 11:54 PM

Ew frau called Brandon a garbage person? Fangirls will be attacking 4,3,2,1 girl is in danger

by Anonymousreply 322April 20, 2019 11:55 PM

R321 bad drunk? User? ew frau is a sam smith stan?

by Anonymousreply 323April 20, 2019 11:55 PM

brandon must be bi cause he was with that queenie smith yea...

by Anonymousreply 324April 20, 2019 11:56 PM

That chick is so unprofessional. She’s likely junior. I can’t see anyone with cred talking unsubstantiated crap about a celeb when you work for a brand that literally earns money solely based on celebs.

by Anonymousreply 325April 20, 2019 11:56 PM

interesting how the Hw circle is also fasinated about R & B the Ew employee's friends she was talking on twitter about them is a Showrunner's assistant for netflix Sabrina and Riverdale and the other one is screenwriter.

by Anonymousreply 326April 20, 2019 11:56 PM

R321 that was such an odd thing to say without any context. You’d think one of her followers would have asked her why she thought that.

by Anonymousreply 327April 20, 2019 11:57 PM

R325 and outing another celeb who has up to this point presented himself as straight. She’s gonna go the way of Ted Casablanca.

by Anonymousreply 328April 20, 2019 11:58 PM

EW has been holding off with revealing the situation for quite some time now. Madden is probably too powerful at the moment and they don't want to anger his management in case they want to do interviews with Madden in the future. Or his management or publicist are somehow directly threatening news outlets not to reveal anything because they want to have it revealed on their own terms.

by Anonymousreply 329April 20, 2019 11:59 PM

R326 Industry people gossip a lot. They get to work with the stars after all. They know all the dirt before the public.

by Anonymousreply 330April 20, 2019 11:59 PM

Well she said apparently so maybe she just heard it from someone else.

by Anonymousreply 331April 20, 2019 11:59 PM

Looks like just gossip to me. I don't think they know anything at EW. EW is a entertainment pub like People not a tabloid

by Anonymousreply 332April 20, 2019 11:59 PM

It isn't known to everyone at entertainment weekly it's just this woman works with someone who's partner went to Highschool with Brandon, he was a brat in high school but is fine now

by Anonymousreply 333April 21, 2019 12:01 AM

(That's the context of garbage person)

by Anonymousreply 334April 21, 2019 12:01 AM

Why call him a garbage person? Richard came here to defend your man!! Anyway, I think their pr is waiting to do the big reveal at the premiere! Imagine the media coverage! It will be huge!

by Anonymousreply 335April 21, 2019 12:02 AM

R329 what a load of made up nonsense

by Anonymousreply 336April 21, 2019 12:03 AM

R333 how do you know that this women works with someone whose partner went to highschool with Brandon?

by Anonymousreply 337April 21, 2019 12:03 AM

It’s odd that someone who works for a publication that specializes in TV, movies, etc., has not heard of BF.

by Anonymousreply 338April 21, 2019 12:04 AM

R335- you're delusional. Richard will never officially come out. If Brandon is at the premiere, he'll be lurking in the shadows.

by Anonymousreply 339April 21, 2019 12:04 AM

R334 thanks. Seems odd to call someone garbage based on their high school self.

R335 it would get a lot of press but to me it would be such a tacky way to do it.

by Anonymousreply 340April 21, 2019 12:04 AM

I think if Brandon does go to the premiere he won't be in front with Richard. Probably like at the Critics Choice awards

by Anonymousreply 341April 21, 2019 12:06 AM

R338 I thought They work in the book reviews not film/tv so it makes sense

by Anonymousreply 342April 21, 2019 12:06 AM

R338 well he is c list at best.

by Anonymousreply 343April 21, 2019 12:06 AM

R336 If EW has a source that confirmed everything a few weeks ago already why would they be holding off to reveal it? There must be a reason for it. And it's either that they want to stay in Madden's good graces because they hope to do interviews with him in the future or that someone else is trying to stop new outlets from revealing it uncontrollably.

by Anonymousreply 344April 21, 2019 12:06 AM

Pathetic . They had years to this up and nothing. Now suddenly, they’re in the know

[quote]This foreign born A- list dual threat actor who once starred in a soon to be defunct hit pay cable show and has some other television hits and a big movie coming out soon had been closeted. I guess he just blew that door wide open. Richard Madden (Robb Stark "Game of Thrones") ("Bodyguard")

[quote]This soon to be way out of the closet foreign born A- list mostly television actor has been hooking up with a guy fairly regularly, but also has a profile on Grindr and even hit up a "spa" in West Hollywood looking for a quick hookup. Richard Madden

by Anonymousreply 345April 21, 2019 12:07 AM

I want to be a garbage person like Brandon so I can ride RM's dick

by Anonymousreply 346April 21, 2019 12:07 AM

R337 it was pretty easy to find but I've been following Brandon for a while.

by Anonymousreply 347April 21, 2019 12:07 AM

I don't think that "confirmed" tweet is actually confirmation about the relationship... I think it's a joke, in reference to the friend tweeting her about being someone who has grabbed a guy's neck like that before and saying it means something is happening etc. I think that is who is meant to be the "inside source". I doubt a woman who a day previously hadn't heard of the existence of Brandon Flynn would be high-up enough there to be in on a secret like that about them a day later. (And I doubt anyone who DID have it confirmed would be dumb enough to tweet about it.)

by Anonymousreply 348April 21, 2019 12:07 AM

R344 she isn't an ew source she simply works there. She isn't going to write an article about it obviously so why would his PR be involved

by Anonymousreply 349April 21, 2019 12:08 AM

R348 look it took people a long time to find her tweet and she didn't explicitly out either by mentioning both their names so she wasn't expecting a forum like this to pick up on it. I know who she could have got the information from and so I don't think she's made it up.

by Anonymousreply 350April 21, 2019 12:10 AM

R346 but you would have had to endure this first

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by Anonymousreply 351April 21, 2019 12:11 AM

The EW lady never once mentioned their names so not to get any attention from twitter or the public. its mostly for her industry friends.

by Anonymousreply 352April 21, 2019 12:13 AM

R347 Then please link to the info that confirms that she's friends with a guy whose partner went to highschool with Brandon.

I know that there's been a video or interview floating around for a long while now where someone who attended highschool with Brandon reveals that he was bullied by Brandon. But that doesn't mean this woman has a colleague who knows that person.

R349 She said that the whole EW office was talking about it. So obviously the whole EW office, including people who write those articles, knows about it. But apparently they've decided to not reveal anything so far.

by Anonymousreply 353April 21, 2019 12:14 AM

R350 Hey, if there actually is a source and it IS confirmed, I'd be delighted to hear it. It's great to hear that you even know someone she COULD be talking about. But that tweet just looks more to me like she's kidding around with a friend (not even deliberately making stuff up- just a joking reply to his tweet, is all I meant.)

by Anonymousreply 354April 21, 2019 12:14 AM

R345 Like I said after the fact.

by Anonymousreply 355April 21, 2019 12:18 AM

R350 You don't have to directly name the source you suspect of course. But could you at least give us a little hint who the source could be in relation to Brandon and Richard? Is it a friend of them, a waiter in a restaurant they frequent, someone who has worked an event they both attended etc?

by Anonymousreply 356April 21, 2019 12:19 AM

I kind of agree with r348 and r350. Even if it is an open secret among industry insiders, I don’t think she’d risk her job outing RM like that because if EW wants to interview him and stuff in the future, they are not going to prematurely out him. I think she might have been joking. If E! Could fire Ted Casablanca, EW will fire this low level employee.

by Anonymousreply 357April 21, 2019 12:19 AM

R354 r356 r357 it's not an open secret in the industry I think she only knows because from what I can tell an associate editor at ew (who would probably be in her same office) is the partner an ex classmate of Brandon's but they were not friends, but as you said it could be joking around

by Anonymousreply 358April 21, 2019 12:21 AM

You'd be surprised how careless people can be on social media tho. Sometimes they don't think they their tweets on their own small accounts could be seen be other people than their friends.

by Anonymousreply 359April 21, 2019 12:22 AM

...by other people...

by Anonymousreply 360April 21, 2019 12:23 AM

It's nothing to with that guy though and he hasn't said anything. I could just be putting coincidences together and presenting them as facts

by Anonymousreply 361April 21, 2019 12:25 AM

R358 but that ex classmate wouldn't know anything about the relationship with Madden. The classmate would only know about Brandon's behaviour in highschool.

So the source about the relationship must be someone else.

by Anonymousreply 362April 21, 2019 12:26 AM

R362 Brandon went to a performing arts high school he's not the only one to go to Hollywood and other classmates keep in touch.

by Anonymousreply 363April 21, 2019 12:28 AM

R362 I was only really sure that's the source of the garbage person comment, you may be right about the relationship thing I have no idea.

by Anonymousreply 364April 21, 2019 12:32 AM

oh dear mary how can ricky kiss the mouth that sucked on smsiths lips

by Anonymousreply 365April 21, 2019 12:33 AM

R365 forgive Brandon. Everyone has someone they wish they could unfuck

by Anonymousreply 366April 21, 2019 12:35 AM

R365 what poetry you write

by Anonymousreply 367April 21, 2019 12:35 AM

R356 pretty sure he sucked on sam smith’s puckered asshole lips also.

by Anonymousreply 368April 21, 2019 12:38 AM

[quote]apperantly An EW employee stated on twitter while discussing it with her friends that R & B's relationship has been confirmed by an inside source at a EW office.

And EW is a totally PR-driven site so I guess they've talked to RM and Brandon's publicists......

by Anonymousreply 369April 21, 2019 12:43 AM

R369 literally read all above posts and you will see it was office gossip from lower level employee with connections and nothing to do with his PR....

by Anonymousreply 370April 21, 2019 12:50 AM

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by Anonymousreply 371April 21, 2019 1:08 AM

What if the papped dogwalk IS Richard's concession to Brandon? If so, it was a big one. He went from assumed straight to never again.

by Anonymousreply 372April 21, 2019 1:25 AM

I hope they get married

by Anonymousreply 373April 21, 2019 1:27 AM

I always think those pictures are PR thing, they are little pieces to a big fat gay confirmation. They are getting a lot of publicity and at the same time they live their life open and people know they are a thing. Richard and his pr team are not hiding the truth, I bet we'll get pda pictures. I think they are really in love and Richard is really serious about this relationship, he's risking a lot just to be with him and I think they make a great couple, they look happy to spend time together.

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by Anonymousreply 374April 21, 2019 1:40 AM

More shots from that fateful day

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by Anonymousreply 375April 21, 2019 1:51 AM

R374 wow he’s really good looking.

by Anonymousreply 376April 21, 2019 1:51 AM

Are there any obvious gay couple who the DailyMail calls roomates in their article?

by Anonymousreply 377April 21, 2019 1:52 AM

Brandon going down on Richard

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by Anonymousreply 378April 21, 2019 1:54 AM

R377 dailymail actually took the roomates stuff from the Sun otherwise they'd be calling them pals.

by Anonymousreply 379April 21, 2019 1:59 AM

They so wanted to hold hands here

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by Anonymousreply 380April 21, 2019 2:00 AM

Roommates pay rent.... I doubt Brandon is charging Richard... no in money anyway.

by Anonymousreply 381April 21, 2019 2:02 AM

R380 I thought so too! Looking at all the pics and the awkward touching and closeness it’s obvious they aren’t just friends

by Anonymousreply 382April 21, 2019 2:06 AM

When will they be spotted together at Whole Foods?

by Anonymousreply 383April 21, 2019 2:40 AM

I wish my neighborhood had Whole Foods and hot gays.

by Anonymousreply 384April 21, 2019 2:45 AM

r372 that's what I'm thinking too. If that's true then dude must be head over heels and I'm expecting it to last for a while.

by Anonymousreply 385April 21, 2019 3:47 AM

the photo not real

photoshopped u ninnys

by Anonymousreply 386April 21, 2019 4:29 AM

[Quote]So, stop being pressed over 2 pap pics. Trying to force someone to come out is the ugliest thing.

I didn't say Richard should come out. All I said was I wish he would treat Brandon the same as his ex-girlfriends, which includes showing PDA. So far that hasn't happened. He's hypocritical because he's terrified of showing PDA with his boyfriend when he used to do it all the time with his ex-girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 387April 21, 2019 8:12 AM

[Quote]You know that not every couple on earth likes to perform PDA, and they certainly aren't obligated to for your amusement. They're not high school kids -- are you?

Richard used to do it all the time with his ex-girlfriends though, there's even proof right here in this thread. Why can't you just admit he is not treating Brandon the same as his ex-gfs, he's terrified of PDA just because he's a guy instead of a girl. It's hypocritical.

by Anonymousreply 388April 21, 2019 8:14 AM

[Quote]He does come across as naive. It's almost like he got excited by the hot guy's attention so he's willing to take what he can get. Like walking 5 feet apart lol. But he's only 25 so I guess he still has some lessons to learn.

Yup.

by Anonymousreply 389April 21, 2019 8:17 AM

When I initially got to follow DL R&B threads upon the first pics/rumors, I knew only R tnx to Bodyguard (the show occasionally sucks but he is good and hot in it). I then checked info about B (SM, interviews) and liked him more than just for his cute looks. I was ready to fangurl about R&B "big love", a new gay power couple, all what we are so thirsty about. Instead, I got disappointed in R. He turned to be an insecure opportunist depriving his rumored BF little PDA. No doubt B would love lot PDA, but he is getting nothing. Humiliating for a guy used to live honestly and be his true self, behave as he feels. Now he is sacrificing all that out of love, I get him but I am angry/disappointed that R makes him do it. Learning that a guy you are sacrificying for is not worth it, exactly because he allows/asks you sacrify, is one of life's lessons.

Btw, I am the one who first said B looks like R's dirty little secret. There is at least one other guy here who repeats almost all my words. I am flattered though feels bizarre.

I still hope R will grow some balls next to B.

by Anonymousreply 390April 21, 2019 11:38 AM

B is very cute and seems a good boyfriend.

by Anonymousreply 391April 21, 2019 11:46 AM

R388 R390 Oh my god, would you cut the guy some slack? Up until now, he has only EVER dated women (at least publicly). This is brand new for him. And yeah, it's awesome to say he should treat Brandon exactly the same as his past girlfriends, and in an ideal world, he'd be able to. But no matter what some people on here might like to claim, this ISN'T that idea world.

For him, for his career, for his life, publicly dating- or even being linked to- a man IS very different. It WILL have an impact on his career and change how people see him (I've already seen tons of comments from people who "don't want him as Bond anymore" etc), so just give him some time and let him figure things out. Maybe he IS scared, but so far it's not stopping him. When the first set of picture broke people on here were grimly predicting all ties would be cut within days, denials might be issued, and he'd be snapped holding hands with some young actress or whatever. NONE of that has happened so far. He's continued to live his life and quietly do his thing (whatever that is) with Brandon.

And you're acting as though it's been a year since those photos. It's been a couple of weeks and a handful of photos. If it WERE a year since then, you might- MIGHT- have a point. But it's too soon and we've seen too little of them for you to say the things you're saying.

by Anonymousreply 392April 21, 2019 11:47 AM

R392 i get that but you just confirm this is not "big love" as some fangurl here. It remains yet to be seen what it is. Btw accordying to fangurls they are together since Oct-Dec. Isn't that enough for R to figure out himself?

by Anonymousreply 393April 21, 2019 11:55 AM

Can someone feed info about alleged B bullying a guy in high school? He seemed so sweet from SM/interviews. This rumor sheds different light to him. Details pls.

by Anonymousreply 394April 21, 2019 11:59 AM

I don’t believe that

by Anonymousreply 395April 21, 2019 12:04 PM

If you read the things the guy wrote about Brandon, I don’t see it as bullying. I see it as Brandon was pissed at the guy for correcting something he worked so hard on, so he didn’t like the guy anymore. Brandon still spoke to him in texts and kept it as civil as possible, but he hung out with people who picked on the guy. The guy is real creepy though, like has a video of him speaking of how he “wanted his cock” and he even outs his parents on stuff. It’s a very uncomfortable video to watch.

by Anonymousreply 396April 21, 2019 12:08 PM

+ Brandon did maybe say things that were hurtful to the guy, but its been over 10 years and the guy is still obsessed with Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 397April 21, 2019 12:09 PM

R394 He DOES seem like a sweet guy, but I believe he struggled massively with substance abuse trying to numb his own demons in high school. I don't know any details at all, and if he was a bully then obviously this doesn't excuse that, but he was probably off his head quite a lot, and in a world of his pain from the sounds of things. Again, not excusing it in ANY way. Just saying he seemed have gone through an awful time, and later turned thing around. He seems like a really good guy these days, from everything I've heard. Glad he turned himself around.

R393 No, I didn't deny anything about any "big love" with my words. Nor did I confirm it. How could I? I don't know them. As for enough time to figure himself out, we don't know if R has ever even dated guys before. We can guess, but we don't know. So enough time to figure out whatever he's got going with Brandon, MAYBE. But figuring out how to navigate the world and his career while doing it publicly? No, I would say it's not fair to say that. It hasn't been months, it's been WEEKS since that started becoming a reality for him. And anyway, even if it was twice as long- everyone does things at their own pace. It's not for you or me to say it's been enough time for him to figure things out. It's got to be what works for him and them and what HE is ok with.

by Anonymousreply 398April 21, 2019 12:10 PM

They seem quiet especially Brandon. I hope everything is ok.

by Anonymousreply 399April 21, 2019 12:14 PM

R398 what "his own demons in high school" are you talking about!? I watched a vid (fb interview) the other day where he was asked about high school and he answered that was happiest time etc.

About other topic: "big love" in my book is when a guy does brave thing for his big love e.g. a closeted guy comes out risking sponsors, roles, jobs, family ties etc. It is most likely to happen in the early months as feelings are stongest then. I was addressing big-live-fangurling here, the same fangurls who think they are like five months together. I get the whole public image calculus, just saying it doesn't add up with madly-in-love.

by Anonymousreply 400April 21, 2019 12:31 PM

R392 The voice of reason. Thank you.

R393 It is assumed that they MET sometime in October or November (I can’t can’t remember which month that photo was taken of them at the party.) But Richard was still with his girlfriend then. We have no idea when he actually starting seeing Brandon but I doubt it was before New Year’s at the earliest.

by Anonymousreply 401April 21, 2019 12:36 PM

R396 his video was so creepy.

by Anonymousreply 402April 21, 2019 12:43 PM

That EW woman should be fired. You don't call an actor you don't even know garbage on social media. And there's absolutely nothing terrifying in the fact that an actor on a hit show has so many followers. Maybe she is not the audience for 13RW but at least she should know about the existence of the show give it's one of the biggest teen shows in recent years and she work for EW (and i suppose she'll do something more than spreading gossip on twitter)

by Anonymousreply 403April 21, 2019 12:46 PM

R400 As I said, I know absolutely no details. I just seem to remember reading an interview where he talked about being really miserable and in a lot of pain inside himself and trying to numb it. It was at least a year ago that I read it though, maybe two, so I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it, apologies. If I come across it again, I'll let you know.

And to be clear, I know nothing about the bullying thing. Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. I certainly haven't watched the video that the poster upthread talked about, which made it sound a lot less like bullying and a lot more like a guy who didn't like him years ago and who is still obsessed with him now. I didn't and don't pretend to know anything. I just remembered reading about his past struggles and thought that might have had something to do with it, as unfortunately as we know sometimes young people who are hurting turn around and take that pain out on others. If it wasn't like that at all, if there was no bullying, great, really glad to hear it! He seems to be really lovely now, so I was sad to think that might not always have been the case. But hey, whether it was or it wasn't- people grow up, they change and develop, and he seems to have developed into a really nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 404April 21, 2019 12:46 PM

The comparison of him walking to the petstore with Brandon and him at the beach, a premiere or a night out with an ex is laughable. The scenarios are so different in terms of wither you would show pda.

by Anonymousreply 405April 21, 2019 12:47 PM

R403 what.... do you not understand Twitter?

by Anonymousreply 406April 21, 2019 12:48 PM

R406: I understand that she should be fired

by Anonymousreply 407April 21, 2019 1:03 PM

R400 As I said in my reply to you above, I don't claim to have any knowledge of whether it's some "big love" or not, since I don't know them. But I don't think it's fair for you to judge that it's definitely NOT, just because it doesn't meet YOUR standard of what "madly in love" looks like. First of all, you aren't either of them, and you're not in their relationship. What is standards of big love for YOU might not be for them.

Second, you don't and can't know whether Brandon even WANTS a big public coming out for or from Richard. YOU think he wants that, but you don't know what HE wants. I'm actually not sure I would want what you're describing, tbh. Would I want to live happily and fairly openly with someone I loved? Yeah. But would I want the pressure of knowing they came out publicly FOR ME, turning their whole world upside down and irrevocably changing the course of their career- no matter whether our relationship succeeded or failed? After only a few months? That's an AWFUL LOT to put on someone! Richard is already surrounded by a storm of rumours and speculation that he NEVER was before that isn't going to go away any time soon thanks to only KIND of being tentatively linked to Brandon through the tabloids, and I'm sure Brandon is highly aware of that.

And really- you have no idea what Richard is planning. I personally, if I had to guess, do NOT think any big coming out is on the cards. But for all I know, it COULD be. Richard could be planning some big, grand, "risk it all" coming out for him gesture that could happen tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or whatever. Like I said, I doubt it. I don't think it seems like Richard, and I don't think Brandon is the type of guy to want to out someone, or want them to come out before they're ready either. But at the end of the day, we just can't know, because we're not privy to any of that.

But I reckon you need to stop judging the guy so harshly just because he's not meeting your idea of what he should be doing. What looks like madly in love for one couple could be completely different in 20 other couples. It's not about what it looks like to anyone else. It's only about whether it's a great relationship for the people IN the relationship.

by Anonymousreply 408April 21, 2019 1:05 PM

R407 you have lost your mind, she made a mild at best tweet about someone based on what she's heard about him, she isn't required to watch a teen show to help run the social media of ew.

by Anonymousreply 409April 21, 2019 1:10 PM

R407 Yeah she was very unprofessional. I wonder if her bosses are aware? And I too thought it was odd she’d never heard of Brandon given the popularity of 13RW.

by Anonymousreply 410April 21, 2019 1:10 PM

r410 I can't believe you lot are going this overboard over that tweet... 13rw isn't required watching...

by Anonymousreply 411April 21, 2019 1:11 PM

R409: If you are going to call garbage to an actor you should better have proves. Twitter is public, so it was a public insult.- She should be fired

by Anonymousreply 412April 21, 2019 1:15 PM

R409 I’m a journalist. (Used to work for a daily newspaper, now I’m in the PR business.) Unsubstantiated comments like that woman made would at the very least have resorted in a reprimand in most instances. In fact, the features editor at my newspaper was fired for saying — on her personal, private FB page — that the manager of the local mall was an idiot. So, yeah, casually calling an actor a “garbage person,” especially when you have your business’ name in your profile, is not advised.

by Anonymousreply 413April 21, 2019 1:16 PM

They are substantiated if you read the piece about Brandon in high school

by Anonymousreply 414April 21, 2019 1:18 PM

R414: What someone said about you is not prove, before insulting someone you better contrast your sources. It's totally unprofesional what she did, she was not having a talk with a friend, she was trash talking about a public figure in a place everybody could read it. She is a complete idiot, apart of not being profesional at all.

The comments about not knowing him are ridiculous, it's like she thought something she doesn't care just doesn't matter. Girl, you work in the media, you should know better. But that's not important in comparision to insulting someone just for no reason

by Anonymousreply 415April 21, 2019 1:21 PM

R414 no, that falls under the definition of hearsay.

by Anonymousreply 416April 21, 2019 1:24 PM

you are really won't quit with this angle huh? it's not a manager and she didn't just type "Brandon Flynn is a garbage person" she even used the word apparently! she broke no laws and was replying to a tweet

by Anonymousreply 417April 21, 2019 1:26 PM

You furds are so American, is very common in UK and Europe for str8 men to behave this way....

madden, not Flynn who is obviously flaming as he was with Miss SMith.

to be a buddy to a chum, not sexual . geesh

by Anonymousreply 418April 21, 2019 1:34 PM

R417: So if somoene aparently use the word stupid to define you, you should not be upset.

She didn't broke no laws, she simply insulted an actor. She is an idiot and she should be fired

by Anonymousreply 419April 21, 2019 1:36 PM

r418 is in denial and dropped out of elementary school apparently.

by Anonymousreply 420April 21, 2019 1:38 PM

R419 if someone said "apparently * is a stupid person tho" I would know that it was based on something someone else told them. people dedicate their entire social media presence to insulting actors and don't get fired, why should she for one harmless tweet reply Whig he will never see?

by Anonymousreply 421April 21, 2019 1:40 PM

R417 It’s because comments like that are potentially libelous. Again, it’s unprofessional.

R418. Yeah, no, not in this case.

by Anonymousreply 422April 21, 2019 1:42 PM

R419 It's not that deep.

by Anonymousreply 423April 21, 2019 1:48 PM

R421: It's unprofesional, and i think it's not that difficult to understand why

by Anonymousreply 424April 21, 2019 1:48 PM

Does Richard LIVE in the USA now?

by Anonymousreply 425April 21, 2019 1:54 PM

R425 Apparently. He’s been in the States since at least mid or late February bc that’s when he was first spotted walking Brandon’s dog.

But I think he still owns a home in London and I doubt he’d give that up, seeing he has business and family in the UK.

by Anonymousreply 426April 21, 2019 2:01 PM

Who are they? Never heard of these people..

by Anonymousreply 427April 21, 2019 2:05 PM

r425 yes like the person mentioned above, he does live here but he hasn’t sold his place back home either

by Anonymousreply 428April 21, 2019 2:07 PM

Also they became really good friends quickly (even before dating) because Brandon went to Scotland in January. He was seen in Isles of Skye lol. I don’t think they were dating before NY or even around that time but they both probably knew they liked each other.

by Anonymousreply 429April 21, 2019 2:09 PM

If Brandon flew all the way to Scotland just to spend a few days with Richard because he liked him, or because it was early days after first hooking up... that is some rom-com shit. Maybe Richard likes grand romantic gestures like that.

by Anonymousreply 430April 21, 2019 2:53 PM

r430 I could see Richard being a big romantic lol.

by Anonymousreply 431April 21, 2019 3:01 PM

There is no logical reason for these two to be just friends as on the face of it they should have nothing in common. They're from different countries, they have different nationalities, heck Brits and American's practially speak different lauguages. There is a 7 year age gap also. Richard is known for an sprawling British Epic filmed all over Europe and Brandon is known for playing a teenager on a high school melodrama. Tell me other than pure animal lust what these two could have in common. LOL

Also even though Richard isn't a superstar he doesn't need to move to the US in order to get work. That's what his agent is for. He's not on the bus running to auditions or something like that and both of these guys make enough money to live on their own if they want to. The reason they have been together since last year and seem to spend all of their free time together and look like a couple and Richard walks his boyfriends dog even when Brandon isn't their is because they are dating and when you are dating you do dating type things.

by Anonymousreply 432April 21, 2019 3:50 PM

I think this relationship is being very calculated. It's not a coincidence that articles are just now popping up and pap photos are being released.

I think this is Richard and his PR Team "testing the waters" and seeing how the public reacts to his sexuality. It seems that besides homophobic fans it's been fairly positive reactions. Which is a good thing. I don't think it will ever be a big grand "coming out" party but this is essentially him slowly coming out of the closet as bisexual or gay.

The wording of the source saying he never liked LA but him suddenly falling in love with the "city". Is code for him falling for Brandon and him trying to make something out of the relationship. Whatever happens in this relationship Richard clearly cares enough about Brandon to be seen in public places. He's aware of the rumors and has continued with their life and not hiding.

by Anonymousreply 433April 21, 2019 4:11 PM

Another photoshoot! This time with the rocketman boys

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by Anonymousreply 434April 21, 2019 4:18 PM

R433 The fact that they were papped the 3rd time being questionably coupley after rumors started flying is also telling. This is deliberate.

by Anonymousreply 435April 21, 2019 4:18 PM

Wish Richard would wear his hair with the curls again I'm not the biggest fan of the blowdried quiff look outside of formal events

by Anonymousreply 436April 21, 2019 4:21 PM

R408 I never said Richard should come out. All I said is he should treat Brandon the same as he did with his ex-girlfriends, and not be afraid to show PDA. That's it. So far he's not doing that though.

by Anonymousreply 437April 21, 2019 4:21 PM

Yes I agree. It's deliberate. This isn't some casual relationship hookup or friendship.

I think my favorite photos are of them looking like two dads walking Charlie and them meeting up with Jamie and Kate where they looked like two couples having a date.

by Anonymousreply 438April 21, 2019 4:23 PM

You're comparing year + relationships with this new one where we've only had a handful of photos. Give it time before you go bashing R for not showing PDA

by Anonymousreply 439April 21, 2019 4:25 PM

Noone is demanding for them to kiss in front of the paps. Simple hand holding would be enough. That's not a difficult thing to do for a couple that already lives together. They're clearly aware of the speculation and are ok with being papped. So there's no reason for keeping it ambigous anymore.

by Anonymousreply 440April 21, 2019 4:42 PM

R440 Are you and your BF holding hands while going to the corner store? Is that the mark of a real relationship? Separately, Richard literally had his arm around Brandon but for some reason he needs to hold hands so you can accept them.

by Anonymousreply 441April 21, 2019 4:45 PM

Simple hand holding would be enough? For who? For you? This is hilarious. Let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. They are not your amusement. Honestly, why are you acting so entitled?

by Anonymousreply 442April 21, 2019 4:45 PM

Richard is such a bastard. Holding hands is what he needs to be doing at all times.

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by Anonymousreply 443April 21, 2019 4:46 PM

So now you want them to hold hands for purely YOUR benefit?

They've been papped out and about what? Three times running errands. One time richard has his hand around Brandon's neck while Brandon has his arm around Richard and that's not enough for you? Couples don't always need to show affection when they're simply walking down a street.

by Anonymousreply 444April 21, 2019 5:01 PM

Richard had his arm around Brandon, Brandon had his arm around Richard and some of you literally said it was all because Richard “wasn’t feeling well” or some shit, and now you want him to hold Brandon’s hand?? He touched Brandon and you were in denial but now that they walk just side by side, you want more? Make up your mind.

by Anonymousreply 445April 21, 2019 5:05 PM

the debate about who bottoms is more fun than the debate about hand holding tbh

by Anonymousreply 446April 21, 2019 5:05 PM

You are aware that a "normal" non-celebrity couple is totally different than a couple like Richard and Brandon? Noone says that they should be hand holding all the time lol. My answer was just a reply to the commenters who said that Richard showed PDA in pap pics with his last relationships and he didn't show any PDA now with Brandon.

They are aware that they're papped. At least the first pap pics were staged by them and the pap was deliberately called. They wanted that speculation. They know how they could end that speculation. By deliberately doing something that would show "yes, we're together". And an example would be holding hands. The holding hands would be most likely done deliberately by them to finally confirm the speculation. you could call it a PR move. It would be a commitment from Richard confirming that he's ok with people seeing Brandon as his partner.

by Anonymousreply 447April 21, 2019 5:08 PM

There would be a handheld photo and you people would still find something to complain about and say it wasn't enough

by Anonymousreply 448April 21, 2019 5:12 PM

R448 Exactly

by Anonymousreply 449April 21, 2019 5:16 PM

There could be a full blown sex tape and it'd still turn into how Richard isn't into Brandon enough and only doing it for attention.

by Anonymousreply 450April 21, 2019 5:18 PM

R448 I don't think so. Because holding hands or something similar would be a very obvious confirmation of their relationship.

by Anonymousreply 451April 21, 2019 5:20 PM

Sam stans being insufferable again...

by Anonymousreply 452April 21, 2019 5:21 PM

Nah. People would say how str8 guys hold hands with guys and that it wasn't sexual enough. "but he kissed his ex gfs! Why can't he kiss brandon like he did them! "

by Anonymousreply 453April 21, 2019 5:24 PM

R450 Richard would just be helping his gay buddy Brandon out by showing his sexual prowess is enough to nab some straight dick!!! What a good roommate and friend!!

by Anonymousreply 454April 21, 2019 5:25 PM

R454 the best was “Richard looks injured and he needs Brandon to hold him up and that’s why his hand is on his neck”. Bros being bros

by Anonymousreply 455April 21, 2019 5:29 PM

Jesus Christ, give it a rest with the hand-holding demands already. This is Rain Man-level obsessiveness.

by Anonymousreply 456April 21, 2019 5:47 PM

This is Richard's view this morning hitting it from the back

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by Anonymousreply 457April 21, 2019 6:00 PM

[Quote]Simple hand holding would be enough. That's not a difficult thing to do for a couple that already lives together. They're clearly aware of the speculation and are ok with being papped. So there's no reason for keeping it ambigous anymore.

Exactly.

by Anonymousreply 458April 21, 2019 6:14 PM

[Quote]So now you want them to hold hands for purely YOUR benefit?

No. but it would send a message, right now they obviously want to keep the speculation going. Richard won't come out anytime soon (my guess anyway), but at the same time they're not being obvious as a couple either, no kissing or handholding. This way the most delusional fans will claim they're just friends and Richard is not risking anything.

by Anonymousreply 459April 21, 2019 6:17 PM

I'm not too familiar with timelines but I wonder if Richard took this pic

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by Anonymousreply 460April 21, 2019 6:19 PM

If they want to end the speculation, all they would have to do is hold hands or something similar. But they're not doing that.

by Anonymousreply 461April 21, 2019 6:19 PM

[Quote]They are aware that they're papped. At least the first pap pics were staged by them and the pap was deliberately called. They wanted that speculation. They know how they could end that speculation. By deliberately doing something that would show "yes, we're together". And an example would be holding hands. The holding hands would be most likely done deliberately by them to finally confirm the speculation. you could call it a PR move. It would be a commitment from Richard confirming that he's ok with people seeing Brandon as his partner.

THIS.

by Anonymousreply 462April 21, 2019 6:20 PM

R460, I wondered that too.

by Anonymousreply 463April 21, 2019 6:27 PM

We can pretend it was taken by Richard

by Anonymousreply 464April 21, 2019 6:35 PM

“Par for the course, Robb Stark from GOT (Richard Madden) likes a lot of gay/gay related stuff on Instagram. His gay friends also refer to him as a queen on a lot of his posts. One of those friends who also hangs with Sebastian Stan - Chris Benz.”

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by Anonymousreply 465April 21, 2019 6:35 PM

This is what Brandon is getting this morning

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by Anonymousreply 466April 21, 2019 7:02 PM

r460 they were good friends at that time but who knows if he took the picture. You can imagine he did lmao.

by Anonymousreply 467April 21, 2019 7:08 PM

So R398 your R404 long post is to admit this "he struggled massively with substance abuse trying to numb his own demons in high school" is bullshit you made up. Luckily I watched that video where he says how happy he was in high school. But this sort of BS fanfiction tends to linger and people may quote you as it was true.

by Anonymousreply 468April 21, 2019 7:12 PM

In that video and his instagram R comes passionate for lgbtq (yes, he used all the letters himself) rights. How ironical that he finds himself in this situation where he cannot be himself and has to pretend they are just friends.

by Anonymousreply 469April 21, 2019 7:23 PM

R468, I am not R398 or R404, but here you go

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by Anonymousreply 470April 21, 2019 7:26 PM

R460 I wondered that too. There's also another one on his IG of him from the back with Charlie where he gives no photo cred

by Anonymousreply 471April 21, 2019 7:31 PM

R469 Also recently I saw him liking a bunch of posts about boycotting hotels because of the gay sex ban in Brunei.

by Anonymousreply 472April 21, 2019 7:34 PM

R468 Jesus, I never made anything up. I made it clear I had no idea about the bullying thing either way- I just said that if it had happened, I thought that maybe that could have been a factor in what was going on at that time. And as you've now seen, thanks to R470, I did not imagine or make up having read him say that. If I got the time period that was happening wrong, apologies for that. The interview is about two years old, so sorry I didn't have it memorised. Thank you very much R470. I couldn't remember where I had read it but I was sure I knew something like that was in his past.

by Anonymousreply 473April 21, 2019 7:42 PM

You're very welcome, R473. I just read it a couple of days ago so remembered it.

by Anonymousreply 474April 21, 2019 7:45 PM

Let me get it straight: middle school is not high school. You made up that as an excuse for him allegedly bullying a guy in high school (which serms a made up BS as well)

by Anonymousreply 475April 21, 2019 7:50 PM

+ he mentioned being bullying in the middle school in that same video interview when he said he was happy later in high school.

by Anonymousreply 476April 21, 2019 7:53 PM

I think this is the video people are talking about when they mention an ex-classmate who called Brandon a bully in highschool. Haven't watched it yet but the person seems definitely mad judging from the tweet.

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by Anonymousreply 477April 21, 2019 8:02 PM

He mentions high school in the article in R470, so while he nay have been happier in high school, his middle school experiences were probably not completely resolved yet. That would be perfectly human.

by Anonymousreply 478April 21, 2019 8:03 PM

R475 Oh my god. Can't believe I have to spell this out for you. No, I didn't make anything up. I read that interview at some stage, probably around when it came out since I've been watching 13RW since the beginning. Two years on, I vaguely remembered that he had said he had been miserable in school and abused alcohol or drugs or both or whatever to try and get through his pain. I had never heard anything about any bullying, and was surprised to hear it. He's widely regarded as a good guy nowadays, with extras on set describing him as really nice etc (and that seems like nothing, but actually extras are often treated like crap, so it's NOT nothing) and it didn't seem to fit with the kind of guy he is. However, I have experience with otherwise lovely people unfortunately becoming NOT so lovely when they were going through a dark time, and taking that out on others. Thought maybe it COULD have been something like that (Could, as in simply offering a guess. I know very well that I don't know the guy and wasn't there and therefore don't know the story.) I'm perfectly aware that middle school isn't high school, thanks, I just mixed up the time period, alright? Jeez.

by Anonymousreply 479April 21, 2019 8:05 PM

OMG I can't believe how much time is being wasted talking about high school in here. [italic]High School[/italic]??? Who cares?

by Anonymousreply 480April 21, 2019 8:08 PM

If you watch the video, the guy is obsessed with Brandon. Many said they were uncomfortable watching it. Like- I feel bad for the guy if Brandon did treat him badly in high school, but people change. People grow up and learn from their mistakes and Brandon definitely has. This guy needs to let it go. He only brings it up when Brandon’s in the media for something.

by Anonymousreply 481April 21, 2019 8:57 PM

Hmmm

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by Anonymousreply 482April 21, 2019 9:20 PM

R482 that's him with Matt smith, the boyfriend of one of Richard's closest friends Lily James, he and Brandon travelled to London just to see her play all about eve

by Anonymousreply 483April 21, 2019 9:45 PM

r482 yes like r483 said that’s Matt Smith, his a Cinderella and Romeo and Juliet costar/Love interest’s boyfriend. I’m cackling at the comments though. Why do straight people act like they had a chance with an actor when they suspect they might not be straight lmao.

by Anonymousreply 484April 21, 2019 9:48 PM

I know that picture is old but Richard looks adorable in it.

by Anonymousreply 485April 21, 2019 10:04 PM

when does the GQ shoot drop?

by Anonymousreply 486April 21, 2019 10:20 PM

Young Richard seemed much more carefree... kind of like Brandon is now. But the closet is a very insidious thing especially when tied to professional success.

by Anonymousreply 487April 21, 2019 11:02 PM

I think he's not used to the fame he's getting. He was in a hit show and was still able to have a level of privacy. He can't have that in LA which makes me think he's really into Brandon if he's willing to go the distance with this relationship

by Anonymousreply 488April 21, 2019 11:14 PM

Nearly 500 posts into Part 6. So is he gay?

by Anonymousreply 489April 21, 2019 11:16 PM

R489 only so much lately because of the new pics. Common opinion is probably bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 490April 21, 2019 11:23 PM

r489 Richard has never said his sexuality and he usually says that it’s private/not their business when asked in interviews. I just assume he likes men and women but I’m not gonna label him since he hasn’t said anything yet.

by Anonymousreply 491April 21, 2019 11:43 PM

Well he's clearly not straight. Whatever he identifies as.

by Anonymousreply 492April 21, 2019 11:44 PM

I don’t think his past gfs were beards. In my eyes he’s bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 493April 21, 2019 11:59 PM

R493, they could have been beards....Or maybe, he has just decided what he really likes (men)

[quote]“Par for the course, Robb Stark from GOT (Richard Madden) likes a lot of gay/gay related stuff on Instagram. His gay friends also refer to him as a queen on a lot of his posts. One of those friends who also hangs with Sebastian Stan - Chris Benz.”

[quote]In that video and his instagram R comes passionate for lgbtq (yes, he used all the letters himself) rights.

by Anonymousreply 494April 22, 2019 12:05 AM

I think he's probably bi too.

by Anonymousreply 495April 22, 2019 12:06 AM

r494 what video are they talking about where he seems passionate for lgbt?

by Anonymousreply 496April 22, 2019 12:47 AM

R494 I noticed last fall that it seemed like he followed an awful lot of gay guys on Instagram. Granted, a lot of them appeared to be in the modeling or design business, etc., so perhaps they were all people he'd worked with before. Still, it made me say "hmmm."

by Anonymousreply 497April 22, 2019 12:48 AM

r497 lol I remember this Richard stan on Lipstick Alley pointed out that he followed a lot of male models lmao. I mean he follows female models too, but as they pointed out he usually has some connections to those but the men he doesn’t seem to have had any previous contact with. But who knows lol.

by Anonymousreply 498April 22, 2019 12:51 AM

well in other news Brandon just followed Douglas Booth's private ig account where he only has around 200 ppl allowed to follow so thats interesting.

by Anonymousreply 499April 22, 2019 12:53 AM

Very, R499! If I am not mistaken, not even Nick Grimshaw follows that one, which surprised me.

by Anonymousreply 500April 22, 2019 12:59 AM

R499 Ooh, he's in Richard's inner circle now ... it's getting serious!

by Anonymousreply 501April 22, 2019 1:04 AM

wonder if they are all hanging out right now, Brandon seems to get on well with folks from the uk

by Anonymousreply 502April 22, 2019 1:16 AM

R499 That’s good news for the folks that were worried about a breakup.

by Anonymousreply 503April 22, 2019 1:24 AM

R499 they live together and were photographer together on Thursday...there were people who thought they'd broken up?

by Anonymousreply 504April 22, 2019 1:25 AM

*r503

by Anonymousreply 505April 22, 2019 1:26 AM

R504 all the idiots here who study likes and follows to figure out what is happening and ignore what is right in front of their eyes.

by Anonymousreply 506April 22, 2019 1:30 AM

R501 There is some imbalance to this relationship. Brandon's like the sophomore who gets invited to join the cool seniors because he's dating one of them...

by Anonymousreply 507April 22, 2019 1:34 AM

R506 you can look at their Instagram activity and be rational too.

by Anonymousreply 508April 22, 2019 1:35 AM

R507 or maybe it's that he's dating someone who's 7 years older and has friends mostly from another country..

by Anonymousreply 509April 22, 2019 1:36 AM

R594 It’s because our resident Instagram stalkers noticed that neither RM nor BF had been online for like a whole 24 hours (this was on Fri or Sat) when they’re usually at least liking other people’s posts even if they’re not posting anything themselves.

Some had speculated that maybe they were traveling at the time and that’s my guess, too.

Gawd, we’re all stalkers, aren’t we? :-X

by Anonymousreply 510April 22, 2019 1:46 AM

Accurate AF

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by Anonymousreply 511April 22, 2019 1:54 AM

I never understood the desire some men have to masturbate with one another. If I plan a sexual encounter, then I'm expecting a dick to fill some orifice.

by Anonymousreply 512April 22, 2019 1:54 AM

R512 Why not? It's not gay if they approach it like a pissing contest. After all cumming is just a biological function... people are the ones who add on all that love and relationship stuff.

by Anonymousreply 513April 22, 2019 1:58 AM

Fellow IG stalkers, I feel I should apologise here. I started following R & B's accounts on Thursday and I am the kiss of death. As soon as I start following someone, they stop posting.

Mea culpa. I'll unfollow so that one of them will accidentally upload a story so filthy they'll claim they've been hacked.

by Anonymousreply 514April 22, 2019 2:21 AM

R514 lololol

by Anonymousreply 515April 22, 2019 2:29 AM

I just assumed they left the country. The last time Brandon and Richard both disappeared was when they were back in London.

by Anonymousreply 516April 22, 2019 2:30 AM

Does anyone know anything about Aron Piper? I remember Brandon used to like most of his posts (I think he started around early October?) and they would leave cute af comments under each other’s posts but then Brandon stopped liking his posts lol. I mean, he wouldn’t like every single one but he usually wouldn’t go more than 2 posts without liking his next post. Us fans noticed it. Aron liked his most recent post though and he still occasionally likes his posts lol. Haven’t seen anymore flirty comments. I don’t know much about Aron but is into men?

by Anonymousreply 517April 22, 2019 2:35 AM

R516 Makes sense. Maybe they're with Douglas.

by Anonymousreply 518April 22, 2019 2:41 AM

R517 He has serial killer eyes. Creepy.......

by Anonymousreply 519April 22, 2019 2:42 AM

r519 lol he does

by Anonymousreply 520April 22, 2019 2:53 AM

Aron Piper is 22? 3 years younger than Brandon. Looks freaking rough for 22.

by Anonymousreply 521April 22, 2019 3:08 AM

R521 It’s not easy hiding bodies

by Anonymousreply 522April 22, 2019 3:21 AM

Sounds like Brandon was into Aron until someone better came along. lol

by Anonymousreply 523April 22, 2019 3:27 AM

r523 it wouldn’t surprise me if he found Aron handsome especially with the cute emojis he would leave lol. He stopped being flirty toward the end of December iirc. That’s the last time he liked a pic too if I recall.

by Anonymousreply 524April 22, 2019 3:45 AM

I dont find either Aron or Omar from Elite hot. I was thinking of giving Elite a try but is the plot and acting really worth it if you dont find the gay couple goodlooking and need to use subtitles? Like I will use subtitles gladly for hot guys, like in Skam France, but for meh looking guys...

Richard is totally a huge upgrade from Aron, lol

by Anonymousreply 525April 22, 2019 3:52 AM

It does sound like there was a flirtation there possibly. (re Aron) I think also this timeline adds weight to the likelihood that BF and RF started up their romance around New Year’s. (And according to the tabloids, Richard and Ellie were broken up at least by January. Someone here suggested they might actually have split in December and the gossip mags didn’t get wind of it till several weeks later, which is a distinct possibility.

And if that’s the case, we’d have the newly single Richard inviting his “pal” Brandon to spend NYE with him. (To my knowledge there aren’t any confirmed sightings of the two of them together in Scotland, but we know for fact they were both there over the holiday so it seems likely they met up at some point.)

My guess is that after their first meeting last fall they talked and flirted long distance for the next couple of months. Then NYE happens, and by mid-February Richard is living stateside with Brandon. That must have been some mind-blowing sex!

by Anonymousreply 526April 22, 2019 4:13 AM

Brandon and Richard definitely got together in January. I think that's why it was officially reported he and Ellie split up when reality is that they were done December. They must have really connected and R didn't want to do the LDR so he moved stateside with the cover of it mostly being for work.

by Anonymousreply 527April 22, 2019 4:21 AM

R526 I think Richard and Brandon must have been flirting as well but in private, and probably even messed around (maybe sexting). Then Richard invited Brandon to come to Scotland, and at that point Brandon knew it was getting serious and dropped any side flirting.

by Anonymousreply 528April 22, 2019 4:22 AM

R&B are actively liking various and sundry posts on the gram as of 15mins ago. I imagine them in laying in bed together scrolling SM with Charlie at their ankles in between. Every couple of minutes B reaches over to tweak R's nipple just to distract and annoy him. Y'know, the usual.

by Anonymousreply 529April 22, 2019 4:34 AM

Yup. He was single New Years. Had a crush on B and invited him and they hooked up and got serious. Possible they got together even before The New Year.

by Anonymousreply 530April 22, 2019 4:35 AM

The power of good bussy

by Anonymousreply 531April 22, 2019 4:42 AM

man I hope someone gets a good pic of them on the patio smokin in their undies...

by Anonymousreply 532April 22, 2019 4:47 AM

A good bussy can heal the psychological pain of grabbing pussies.

by Anonymousreply 533April 22, 2019 4:49 AM

the sex must be crazy good... where’s the onlyfans

by Anonymousreply 534April 22, 2019 5:02 AM

I think their flirtation started around October. The “you’re so lucky” IG post was on November 9th. The photo was taken on the 4th.

by Anonymousreply 535April 22, 2019 5:04 AM

Aron is cute but he’s no Richard.

by Anonymousreply 536April 22, 2019 5:10 AM

r535 I could see light flirtation going on even though he was still with Ellie supposedly then. Maybe he and Ellie were having problems before Brandon even came and that’s why they broke up though. I don’t like to speculate too much on that though because Richard stans liked to semi blame them breaking up on Brandon, which I found odd because they also insisted he was just straight lmao.

by Anonymousreply 537April 22, 2019 5:12 AM

Well the timelines overlap so there had to be at least flirting going on. Doesn't make R or B bad people if that was the case

by Anonymousreply 538April 22, 2019 5:18 AM

R537 What do those fans see in Ellie? Is it because she's their Mary Sue? I mean she's very young but looks Frauish with a case of serious bitchface.

by Anonymousreply 539April 22, 2019 5:21 AM

Because of Homophobia or biphobia. They just want him with a woman so they can pretend he's Completely str8

by Anonymousreply 540April 22, 2019 5:24 AM

Young Richard was cute... though not exactly handsome. I have an urge to pinch his cheeks.

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by Anonymousreply 541April 22, 2019 5:26 AM

Who is this Aron who can’t spell his name correctly?

by Anonymousreply 542April 22, 2019 5:27 AM

R542 This dude...

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by Anonymousreply 543April 22, 2019 5:32 AM

r539 idk lol. There’s this one stan on twitter who used to talk shit about Brandon that turned her into her ~princess~ and she and Richard broke up. She got called out on her homophobia once and all her little minions came to her rescue saying she was allowed to dislike someone. Which okay, that’s true but everyone and their mother could pick up on the fact that she didn’t like Brandon because he liked men and she saw that as a threat/bad thing lol.

r542 he’s a Spaniard actor lol

by Anonymousreply 544April 22, 2019 5:33 AM

Is this Aron person gay?

by Anonymousreply 545April 22, 2019 5:39 AM

I personally think that people who believe nothing is going on between Tim and Armie or that both of them are straight have as much as evidence as Charmies, so I’m never truly convinced by one side or the other. It’s endless

by Anonymousreply 546April 22, 2019 5:41 AM

Lmao wrong thread, sorry

by Anonymousreply 547April 22, 2019 5:41 AM

R545 He's European... anything goes.

by Anonymousreply 548April 22, 2019 5:45 AM

Oh god. Can we not bring Tim and Armie in this post

by Anonymousreply 549April 22, 2019 5:46 AM

R549 You just did. {eye roll}

by Anonymousreply 550April 22, 2019 5:49 AM

As we get closer to the new thread, I hope someone inserts ( fuck ) before “buddy” next time.

by Anonymousreply 551April 22, 2019 6:01 AM

Richard is such a coward, gay marriage is already legal you pussy

by Anonymousreply 552April 22, 2019 6:24 AM

Richard recently liked a photo of Gabriel-Kane Day-Lewis (Daniel’s hot son). I wonder how well they know each other?

by Anonymousreply 553April 22, 2019 7:37 AM

R552 Um, what does marriage have to do with any of this?

by Anonymousreply 554April 22, 2019 7:41 AM

[Quote]I dont find either Aron or Omar from Elite hot. I was thinking of giving Elite a try but is the plot and acting really worth it if you dont find the gay couple goodlooking and need to use subtitles?

I said the same in the Elite thread, that out of all the male characters they picked the ugliest to play gay. It's such a shame, the rest of the cast is gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 555April 22, 2019 8:16 AM

[Quote]I don’t know much about Aron but is into men?

Do you have a working gaydar? He is effeminate and pings loudly. Of course he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 556April 22, 2019 8:18 AM

^But he's also European...

by Anonymousreply 557April 22, 2019 8:23 AM

R556 Do you know that Aron's insta follows/likes are full of random gorgeous girls lol Sure he can be bisexual but don't think he's gay.

by Anonymousreply 558April 22, 2019 10:14 AM

I'm not going to say which but some of the people on this tread type like they write tumblr fanfiction...and the charmie mention just confirms that

by Anonymousreply 559April 22, 2019 12:06 PM

R537 There's a Daily Mail article from last October that shows Richard and Ellie exiting a restaurant after a "glitzy night on the town" and they both look beyond miserable. I'm sure they weren't happy with the paps and all the flashbulbs, but it's also noteworthy that Richard exits the restaurant first a good 20 feet in front of Ellie and gets into the waiting car first ... and they're both ignoring each other, not just the paps. I know it's hard to base a conclusion off of one series of photos, but they sure didn't give the impression of being a happy couple there.

by Anonymousreply 560April 22, 2019 1:12 PM

[quote]I imagine them in laying in bed together scrolling SM with Charlie at their ankles in between.

Pics please. (Emphasis on the S&M portions with the dog would be great).

by Anonymousreply 561April 22, 2019 1:16 PM

R561 Bros.

by Anonymousreply 562April 22, 2019 1:21 PM

R560 Yes, I saw that photo. I think their relationship ended in October. She waited until January to announce it.

by Anonymousreply 563April 22, 2019 1:38 PM

r560 oh really? I looked up and the pics and lmao. I never paid attention to his relationships before he started hanging with Brandon. He does have RBF which make it hard to pick up on how he feels because he looks pissed if he’s not smiling and like you said, it’s hard to pick up on just a few pics but who knows lol. Maybe like r563 said, they broke up sometime around then. He started following Brandon in November even though they met in October and then Brandon followed him.

by Anonymousreply 564April 22, 2019 1:46 PM

I'm curious about Brandon's relationship with Sam Smith because i want to see a pattern similar to Richard. How long where they together before the first pap pics of them came out? Did Brandon follow Sam's circle of friends on social media? did he a starting liking his post?

by Anonymousreply 565April 22, 2019 1:47 PM

R494 R496 ups that was my mistake in R469 should be B instead of R. It's clear who I was talking about in the context of my previous post (Brandon's fb interview). Unintentionally I proved how it is easy to start far-fetched line of conclusion and speculation, a typo is enough just the same as any statement starting with "I believe, vaguely remember, hear etc." like that EW employee or the fanfiction poster here. Others pick from there adding new bits etc. I don't know now who the other poster R472 who continued with hotel boycott was talking about (b or r). Sorry for my typo, hope this will help undo a bit, I will use initials from now on to avoid confusion.

by Anonymousreply 566April 22, 2019 1:50 PM

he was with Ellie in November still, they look annoyed in the pap pictures because they are annoyed that they're being photographed on a night out. We don't have to put down and deny his past relationships to accept this one

by Anonymousreply 567April 22, 2019 1:54 PM

SamSmith canceled 3 concerts recently because of his healthy .sad

by Anonymousreply 568April 22, 2019 1:58 PM

R567 I’m not denying any past relationship, or even putting it down. I’m just saying that I doubt they were a perfectly happy couple until Brandon suddenly broke them up. They were likely nearing the end of their relationship regardless. It happens.

by Anonymousreply 569April 22, 2019 2:02 PM

[QUOTE]Richard recently liked a photo of Gabriel-Kane Day-Lewis (Daniel’s hot son). I wonder how well they know each other?

This guy’s hot? According to who?

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by Anonymousreply 570April 22, 2019 2:11 PM

R570, Gabriel-Kane, because of his tattoos, is a guy who looks hotter with clothes on.

by Anonymousreply 571April 22, 2019 2:20 PM

His father is a lot hotter.

by Anonymousreply 572April 22, 2019 2:22 PM

R570 he’s one of those celeb-spawn who become models through connections while being beyond mediocre.

by Anonymousreply 573April 22, 2019 2:28 PM

That kid is not cute. I'd rather fuck DDL

by Anonymousreply 574April 22, 2019 2:33 PM

His mom is very beautiful too

by Anonymousreply 575April 22, 2019 2:39 PM

R560 R563 He and Ellie went on vacation together in November (per both of their instas) maybe it was a last ditch effort type of thing? In the photo she has posted, she seems happy. R always seems annoyed in pap photos though and there are photos from inside that event where both are smiling (not photographed together though).

I am curious to see what happens when R has to go to the UK to film 1917. Brandon doesn’t seem to be working, so it is feasible he can go with, but might not if R will be busy.

Does anyone know who that Michael person is? His insta is full of celeb pics, incl RM, Ellie, Armie, K Stew, Paris Hilton, etc. he seems a bit sleezy...

by Anonymousreply 576April 22, 2019 2:40 PM

Brandon does a job. He will be filming AHS 1984 in the states soon maybe as the same time as Richard is in the uk working.

by Anonymousreply 577April 22, 2019 2:58 PM

Just because an actor isn't filming doesn't mean they don't work. I doubt B would spend the entire time in the UK while. R is filming. They're not a married couple. It'll be meet ups back and forth but not him there the entire time

by Anonymousreply 578April 22, 2019 3:14 PM

With Sam, I seem to recall that there was a lot of flirting on ig before they were papped together. And they started to follow all their friends. After they broke up I think Sam's friends unfollowed Brandon and Sam did it too.

by Anonymousreply 579April 22, 2019 3:14 PM

My definition of efeminate must be different from some because Aron Piper is not flamboyant at all. And his name is correct, it's basque.

And i don't think he is gay either. Their flirt was nothing more than people form different Netflix shows playing a bit.

And Elite is a very funny show to watch, the fact the cast is attractive is the less important thing. The show is addictive and the gay storyline is interesting and cute.

Curiously women doesn't seem to share the opinion about Aron because he is probably the most popular of the actors in terms of female fans

by Anonymousreply 580April 22, 2019 3:17 PM

Sam still follows some of Brandon’s friends and cast members of 13rw. The only people he was quick enough to unfollow was Brandon and Alisha.

by Anonymousreply 581April 22, 2019 3:23 PM

R581 and Miles of course.

by Anonymousreply 582April 22, 2019 3:25 PM

[R582] Did he ever even follow Miles? Miles and Brandon never even speak anymore.

by Anonymousreply 583April 22, 2019 3:27 PM

Sam did follow miles before he broke up with Brandon and he unfollowed miles right after the split . But he accidentally followed miles around Jan (I couldn’t remember very clear) and unfollowed miles again in very short time. That’s the whole story

by Anonymousreply 584April 22, 2019 3:31 PM

Sam seems to have a habit of doing that with guys who had/have connections to Brandon.

by Anonymousreply 585April 22, 2019 3:34 PM

Part 7 link

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by Anonymousreply 586April 22, 2019 3:47 PM

I so want Richard and Sam to meet lol!

by Anonymousreply 587April 22, 2019 3:50 PM

R587 Cruel

by Anonymousreply 588April 22, 2019 3:59 PM

I think a previous poster said they already knew each other? Smith is friends with Douglas Booth. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’ve met though...

by Anonymousreply 589April 22, 2019 4:04 PM

.........

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by Anonymousreply 590April 22, 2019 4:17 PM

Sam is a fan of GOT so I’m sure they’ve met at least once. Must suck knowing the ex is boning the King of the North

by Anonymousreply 591April 22, 2019 4:40 PM

It seems that Brandon was the one that ended the Sam Smith relationship. I remember Sam being very emotional on SM. I was sad and embarrassed for him.

by Anonymousreply 592April 22, 2019 7:48 PM

You don't know who ended what, you just want to shit on Sam Smith. That relationship is history, there is no real reason to bring him up anymore. Brandon and Richard are the topic. Stay on it.

by Anonymousreply 593April 22, 2019 7:53 PM

r593 Sam is grateful for you defending his honor.

by Anonymousreply 594April 22, 2019 8:01 PM

Argh no news or updates or pics?

by Anonymousreply 595April 23, 2019 1:08 AM

R595 they’ve started posting on thread 7 before this one officially closes.

by Anonymousreply 596April 23, 2019 1:38 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 597April 23, 2019 1:58 AM

I love BF and RM.

by Anonymousreply 598April 23, 2019 1:59 AM

Sam is ugly.

by Anonymousreply 599April 23, 2019 1:59 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 600April 23, 2019 1:59 AM
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