The Official Leaving Neverland and Michael Jackson Train Station Thread

It's funny you mention this, did you know that Safechuck had to have been a time traveler to have been on that train? Go ask your precious Dan Reed about it. Blah, blah, crazy ramblings, blah blah.

You mean the train station shown in the documentary, while he described the alleged abuse that happened there, numerous times at a place that didn't exist?

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If you were molested "hundreds of times" by a man as grotesque and bizarre as Michael Jackson would you remember every single detail, or would those memories become a blur, perhaps to keep your own sanity?

R3 Dan Reed already debunked multiple train stations. Said the abuse happened later (16/17).

I have no idea how he was traded for someone who says they were never abused either with the new explanation. Safechuck got fucked by Dan Reed, but he should have known.

{quote]Safechuck got fucked by Michael Jackson

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r7 WW! Fuck yeah! Train loon is setting himself up now for these, he is losing it.

[quote] Does a train station station cause you to reconsider what you already know about Michael Jackson?

No, because I know he was innocent.

FUCK OFF REDUNDANT THREAD THIEF

You are just going to get ALL the Jackson threads banned, you OCD, Aspie Ass Pie.

R11 I came here to tell you to take your meds, and call mom. She worries.

Maybe you could email her mom r12, like you psychotically emailed abuse victim Jimmy Safechuck and threatened to do to his coworkers. You are fucking insane spending all night defending a homosexual pedophile.

Seeing Micahel's disfigured face should be enough to force parent to run away with their children from the monster.

I would vomit uncontrollably if I had to suck on that discolored schlong.

I wonder what has to be going through your mind to fake being rimmed by a pop star in a train station at 14 that didn't exist until you were probably having consensual sex with some other man when you were almost an adult.

I'm sure if Jackson fans had their way new laws would put in place ASAP that required death by firing squad for anyone who mistook a train station for another building. It's the most grievous crime one can commit!

R16 No, lying about being abused as a boy when you're 40 and being caught putting that abuse in a place that didn't exist it is.

So fans have taken one full month to semi-discredit ONE example of the abuse James Safechuck spoke about. What about the hundreds of other examples he could recollect of the top of his head? Do you want to still defending Jackson when you are 80?

"No cap"

Number 1 pedophile

R20 The only pedo in America to fuck an adult in a train station that didn't exist.

R21 Hardly an adult. He was 15 or 16 at the time the train station was built. Don't make up figures. At the same time his Scientologist wife Lisa Marie Presley said she could not get in bed with Jackson because there was always a small boy in there. Was she lying too?

What a great idea a poll is. Now the pedo homophobic Train Station Troll can stop saying that '90% of DL support MJ'.

The Neverland Ranch was vast, with several stations. But how fucking creepy does Jacko look, next to that 3 year old kid?

Michael was so fucking ugly and all his music since 1990 was TRASH. He even has a picture of little children on his tombstone in Forest Lawns.

Safechuck claimed he was molested multiple times in a place that didn't exist. Never thought you could do worse than Arvizo's "he stopped calling me" or "he kidnapped me at Neverland" but hold. my. beer.

R23 "The Neverland Ranch was vast, with several stations"

Safechuck provided the photos of the new train station, that were taken years after the abuse stopped. You're funny.

Most music since 1990 is trash, R24, and the whiter he got, the worse his music got.

"hold. my. beer"? are you posting from 2015? Trying to grasp American catch phrases so you look like a legit person and not a paid poster?

Jackson was confirmed as a sex offender in 1993 when he paid off Chandler to the tune of 20m. What must Chandler have had on MJ for him to pay out such an astronomical fee?

Was all the money for that silence worth it? His music after that was lackluster compared to what came before it.

R23 For those who defend Jackson, we didn't need more proof of his innocence but we're glad it's come out. It should get more people to at least investigate Safechuck's claims instead of taking them at face value. That 3 year old kid is his son btw.

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Once a whore, always a whore.

r30 nice try, asshole, trying to sound like a reasonable and moderate person but we all know you are the train troll, and if you're not, you've hitched your star to a fucking loser who hates gays and loves pedophiles.

Let's be honest for a moment, the only reason that DL as a whole is so invested in Safechuck us because they thought he was hot. Post after post made this clear.

He was hot, and then he turned 14!

Safechuck should get a real job before he tries to fix this by spinning the "MJ was my lover at 17" angle. That's a credibility destroyer.

He has a real job, psycho, did you not email him there? And I hope you do email his coworkers, it will only make his life easier, they will make a gofund me for him to take a trip and get away from fucking wingnuts like you. YOU really make them look like even more victims than they already are, and you are making people hate MJ even more. Well played!

One month ago, HBO aired an explosive “documentary” called Leaving Neverland, which told horrific stories of child sexual abuse by two accusers of pop icon Michael Jackson. In the aftermath of its premiere, which was almost universally embraced by the mainstream media, I wrote three different stories, including one which included interviews with important subjects the movie ignored, casting doubt on whether the film really should be taken as mostly, or even partly, factual.

Since then, the production has been found to have numerous substantive problems, and its narrative is now filled with significant holes. But strangely, while the tabloid press in the United Kingdom has been all over the movie’s implosion, there has been a complete blackout of these developments in the news media here in the United States.

The revelation which has gotten the most attention (it has been featured in at least three of the major U.K. tabloids), deals with the story of accuser James Safechuck, who was originally presumed to be the more credible of the two alleged victims. It centers on Safechcuk’s detailed claim in the movie that he was forced to have sex with Jackson, near the start of his abuse, in the second floor of the train station at Jackson’s Neverland Ranch.

In the film and in his lawsuit deposition, Safechuck says that his abuse by Jackson ended in 1992, when he was about 14 years old. A huge part of the movie’s narrative is that Jackson lost sexual interest in these boys when they reached the age of 14, supposedly because that is when puberty hit (though the average white American boy currently begins puberty at around ten years old).

However, there is now a huge problem with Safechuck’s allegation. Construction on the train station building, which was not commenced until late 1993, wasn’t completed until mid-1994, and after that time, Jackson, who had just gotten married to Lisa Marie Presley, was rarely even at Neverland for the next several years.

This suggests that Safechuck, based on his own testimony, and the film’s most prominent premise, made up the story about being abused in the train house. This would be problematic for anyone who has no corroboration for their dramatic claims, and who finally came forward to sue 21 years after their abuse, but given the remarkably wide latitude which abuse claims are given, especially in the #MeToo era, it would hardly be devastating on its own.

Poor, deluded R38 is a prolific fan-writer of Mills & Boon style romance novels featuring the pedophile Jackson.

They are part of a whole generation mind-fucked and desensitized by the in-plain sight obsession Jacko had with boys.

How will these people function as (God forbid) parents of their own children? They live in a world where Moonwalking is the truth, skin bleaching is justice and raping boys the all American way.

I don' t think he is r39, he has nothing at all to say about MJ or his music, he just autistically posts the same shit over and over, like someone paid him to do it. There's no passion in his defense, he just really hates abuse victims and gets paid to troll and try to discredit them.

The pedo supporter has cited an online news oulet called Mediaite who nobody has ever heard of.

NONE of the UK broadsheets have written about the train station 'plot hole' because the majority of intelligent people here loathe Jackson and have since 93 when he paid a child 20m to shut up.

It's amazing what pedophile fantasies these MJ haters can invent. Speaking of, has Safechuck explained his numerous molestations in a specific room in a train station (he provided pictures of that didn't exist until near adulthood?

In the last couple of hours I’ve been given access to the Santa Barbara County construction permits for the Neverland train station by my source - approved Sept 2, 1993 pic.twitter.com/xjtfvEvsUu

— Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) March 30, 2019 Reed replied to Smallcombe on Twitter, saying: "Yeah there seems to be no doubt about the station date. The date they have wrong is the end of the abuse."

Even if the documentary had merely shown footage of repulsive Jackson hand in hand with dozens of children, discussed the locks and bells at Neverland, and recapped on the Jordy Chandler and other pay offs, without James and Wade featuring, it would have been enough to incite fresh global rage against junkie child rapist Michael. Predators like him need to be discussed and their legacy destroyed.

When someone accuses someone of a crime, and it comes out that person couldn't have even been there when they said the crime was happening--then I'm sorry but nothing else they say can cure that absent a confession. And MJ is dead.

It's like any episode of SVU when the person changes their story multiple times, accuses them after getting fired, fingers the wrong person, lies about knowing the person, etc. Even if there's a grain of TRUTH to your claim you just aren't credible anymore the minute you fabricate/deceptively hide major details

Michael wasn't gay, didn't likecto be touched, didn't like to get naked (vitiligo patches) and didn't even cuss. Why would he suddenly start eating boys' asses out?

How about when hundreds of people accuse someone of crimes over 20+ years? And how funny you bring up SVU, even THEY knew he was a pedo and made an episode about it.

Didn't like to be touched, train troll? Oh come the fuck on!

When you mention the major inconsistencies in Leaving Neverland's stories MJ haters want to resort to personal attacks and name-calling. It's not my fault this man said he was abused in a place that didn't exist, years until after the "abuse" stopped! Sad!

So much this

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When someone accuses someone of a crime, and it comes out that person couldn't have even been there when they said the crime was happening--then I'm sorry but nothing else they say can cure that absent a confession. And MJ is dead.

It's like any episode of SVU when the person changes their story multiple times, accuses them after getting fired, fingers the wrong person, lies about knowing the person, etc. Even if there's a grain of TRUTH to your claim you just aren't credible anymore the minute you fabricate/deceptively hide major details

R48 Bashir directed that scene and even told them to hold hands. It was sweet justice that Jackson caught Bashir on tape lying was later humiliated in court.

I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that Wade claims that Michael never beat him but then claims that he fucked him and "put his dick in my 7 year old mouth". What a piece of shit. I can't even...

"So much this" r50? did you come over from TWOP. Also, we know you're the same person.

I agree with many people that Wade Robson is probably not the most pleasant person and very likely an opportunist.

This train already left the station, Redundant Thread Thief!

No, you cannot banish relevant subjects to separate threads. You're just going to get Muriel to delete ALL Michael Jackson threads.

Everybody please F?F THE OP and move back to the designated space:

Now you're switching up to Wade, huh r53? What "most people" do you agree with? No one on this thread has said that.

Literally none of their claims against Wade even made sense. Their legit grasping at straws and because the Jackson estate has so many social media bots on call they actually think people believe them hahaha

Safechuck is toast. His entire story is down the drain now.

There's a difference between forgetting a key detail-- and making up something that you say happened multiple times in a place that was not there until after the "abuse" ended, you were already "traded" (by someone who says nothing happened), your "abuser" wasn't even living there, and you weren't even going to Neverland according to your own mother.

Also R56 I don't know what planet you're own, but even most of the LN people I've seen admit Wade is shady as hell and unbelievable. That's why people stopped talking about him 4 threads ago in the official thread. Safechuck was the credible one, until well...the train station nonsense. Now it may be time to switch back to Wade.

Safechuck is still credible, nonsense is right.

R59 If Safechuck was ugly, and a little less effeminate, I think he would've been by DL as soon as this came out. The first LN thread is full of talk about how sexy he is and how people just wanted to hug him. it's hard to admit your crush faked a sex abuse claim but the construction records show he wasn't there.

Yes r60, because everyone here are "thirsty queens" according to you. Fuck off, why are you on a gay board?

R61 Because being a thirsty queen and a gay person are nor mutually exclusive....why are you on a gay board?

Michael. Jackson. Is. Innocent.

Bill. Cosby. Is. Guilty.

And speaking of Cosby, someone needs to get to the bottom of how they actually booked Aileen Quinn on [italic]The Tonight Show[/italic] the night he was a guest host. There used to be a clip on some non-YT video site but the Copyright Gestapo took it down.

Safechuck lied about sex abuse--and got caught. The places didn't exist. Disgusting, mentally ill creature there.