Goth

It's been around since the 1980's.

It's dead.

It's been around since the 1980s.

The look was born amidst the New Romantic rubble of the early-to-mid-1980s, and has died out and been reborn with the regularity of clockwork since then.

The look is more a combination of late 70's Punk with a bit of New Romantic thrown in.

Punk from the late 70's

Now it's Stupidgoth. Wear all black cuz we like it, no concept behind it. We look good that's it! Don't care about existentialism or any thinking shit either, we ain't chumps.

How can a stupid lemming trend endure into a fifth decade? Imagine if people wore poodle skirts and ducktails into the 1990s as if they had never gone away.

Fuck the mothers, kill the others

Fuck the others, kill the mothers

The Goth look has been around a long time, actually.

I'm a geezer, but I like Goths, I like the music. This is my favorite video of one of the Castle Parties from many years ago, using a Clan of Xymox song. The girls are really cute, and undoubtedly no longer Goth.

I still see it around on teens.

Goth had a revival with the emo movement back in the aughts.

I prefer steampunk.

steampunk was never for teens

That has been around since the late 70’s. It’s been tired since day one but it is still very popular.

Half the guys in my high school looked like this.

I literally saw an industrial mallgoth in TJ Maxx today, with the cyberpunk boots and fishnets and a black duster. She looked kinda cool in a Matrixy-way.

Here's another thing that bothers me--the flapper look! When did women get the diea they could get all gussied up like sleek jezebels?

Who asked you?

R11 Not a goth but always wanted to go to the Castle Party. It's intriguing, kinda like Comic Con except cooler. And I do like the music.

I had a tall young working class goth fuck bud with the biggest cock in town. He got more into being a vampire so I let it go. I was in my early 40s and he was in his early 20s.

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Remember SNL's Goth Talk?

The Goth Look went totally mainstream in the nineties, with every other girl wearing black chokers, long black drapey things, and too-dark lipstick. It had to have been around before, but I wouldn't associate with anyone who knows about the history of the Goth subculture.

Tell me, did Goth going mainstream in the 90s have anything to do with the Vampire craze of the '00s?

Goth 2 Boss

r25 , check the soundtrack albums of the Twilight movie franchise and you notice the who-is-who of emo music.

Yes it’s dead. Now all the girls who would have been goth are now ‘queer’. I’m 100% serious. It’s just another performative ‘outsider’ shit. They all are non binary demisexual, trans masculine gay boys. Blue hair, septum piercing and a woke twitter account.

Same type of people as 30 years ago, just a new fad.

They disappeared off the face of the planet alongside Fairuza Balk.

I think you can trace it back to the leather-and-black-eyeliner stuff that the Stones and Doors were doing at the end of 'sixties. Alice Cooper was already parodying it in the early 'seventies.

Whenever Bela Lugosi’s Dead was released.

R25 two words: Marilyn Manson. I was in high school in the 90’s. The rise of bands like MM and NIN, mall goth stores like Hot Topic, role paying games like Vampire: The Masquerade and movies like a The Craft broke the Goth look mainstream. Sad a lot of those kids didn’t know crap about the origins of Goth or bands like Bauhaus. By the late 90’s Goth had been replaced by the Nu-Metal look, then the emo look.

Looks like way too much effort getting that look and make-up and hair put together

You just know a guy like this is kinky in bed—bondage, hot wax candles, etc.

Kiss them for me

"Looks like way too much effort getting that look and make-up and hair put together "

Like the guy said above, the same people who would have been Goth 30 years ago, are now non-binary trans queer.

Not to take this thread to a dark place (or maybe that's appropriate), I think Columbine killed the scene. After the media went after Marilyn Manson, nobody wanted to look like the freaky, outcast, goth kid wearing all black and in trenchcoats.

After Columbine many schools banned trenchcoats.

Goth is now genderqueer.

Last Goth Standing

The best goth bands were the ones that actually hated being lumped with the genre. I remember loving this back in 1990, even though my musical tastes were very far removed from goth (at the time I was all about house/dance music)

OP/R19 I blame Peaky Blinders for the return of Roaring Twenties couture.

Marilyn Manson was poser goth. It kind of jumped the shark when they came out.

1915 OP, 1915.

R40, not quite accurate, we have Ronny Moorings of Clan of Xymox, who is a slightly thinner version of Robert Smith. He's 58.

Nico was the first rock Goth.This song is from 1968.

A lot of those 80s/90s Goths smelled like spoilt milk.

It's not as big as it used to be, but it refuses to die.

Has Hot Topic ever gone out of business?

Sadly, no ...

Some hipsters DO wear poodle skirts and ducktails, r8!

Goth evolved into Industrial in the '90s, r13, like its musical influences. There it found a more leathery expression.

It was such a stupid geeky scene. Hated goths and I hate Anne Rice.

Goth became Emo which begat Queer. Around the Emo phase it really started to become a joke.

I started college in 1978. The first goth girl I ever saw was in one of my classes the first semester. I didn't even know what that style was called for a few more years.

When I think of 90s/early 00s mainstream goth, I think of the cyber look of Cher's 'Believe' video, AEON FLUX, or Lacey Chabert playing Penny Robinson in the LOST IN SPACE movie (1998).

About 5 or 6 years later the fashion trend became emo/post-hardcore with it's bright colors & commercial logos married to 'kawaii' (cutesy Japanese cartoon style), and all the sleek nu-metal & industrial trappings of the late 90s fell away along with the 'gay club' elements of the look.

FUCK ALL OF YOU ASSHOLES

How do you keep all these labels and names of trends sorted out? How counter-culture is it really? Sounds like way too much effort. Rebels have always been around, and they always wear black. And leather. And metal.

I admire anyone who does and dresses how they want regardless of criticism I wish I had that kind of confidence.

Malice Mizer were goth, non?

I always assumed they were, and in France they were certainly promoted that way. I don't know how the Japanese think of them; does 'Goth' even exist there, conceptually?

R59, I don’t know about music, but a lot of Japanese anime and cosplay is pure Goth.

This gif never fails to amuse me. They're so earnest.