Beto 2020 (part 4)

Is it pronounced “Bee-toe” or “Bay-toe”?

Beto's official campaign. Donate fellow gays

Wow. Mayor Pete stole his thunder. Even his second launch underwhelmed.

Is he going to change his name to Be'quan in order to connect with Black Americans? I can always spot a phony.

That dumb nickname is him in a nutshell. Just too twee to live.

He's speaking at the National Action Network conventions in NYC. Kind of cringey.

You people call 10,000+ phony?

R7, who said what is phony?

R8 the people who said his launch was underwhelming. I like Mayor Pete but you can't deny that thousands of people live Beto and he's pretty much in the top 5 in many polls

Pete didn't even bother to do a launch.

Sorry I meant "like Beto". I was typing too fast

I noticed that Beto released his first quarter numbers today. He collected $9.4 million in his first 18 days. He's behind Bernie and Kamala, but ahead of Pete. TPM figured it out to Beto averaging $522,000 a day, Bernie averaging $444,000, Harris at $171,000 a day, and Pete at $103,000 a day. The others haven't reported yet.

That's not bad considering he's only been in the race for under three weeks.

He’s not generating buzz like Pete.

Beto is clearly a force finishing 3rd right behind Kamala Harris with only 2 1/2 weeks .

The problem is comes off very maniacal while speaking.

Only on dL and some media is Pete a big deal. If you are gay then he is. It depends on who you ask. I don't see the deal with Pete. He looks like a weasel and not that interesting.

I like Pete and I like Beto but it's too early. Primaries are a year away.

But Katy Tur said "it's getting late" yesterday in reference to Biden announcing.

Mayor Pete was (and I think still is) here in DC. The gays had a fundraiser for him the other night. And so the social media feeds have him all over, either in pics with people or by them posting favorable articles about him.

Eh. I'll vote for him if he's the nominee, but I'm not enthusiastic about him becoming the nominee. I much prefer Beto.

I think that gays need to stand behind Mayor Pete.

Not only should gays stand behind Mayor Pete, the fact that (judging by DL) so many gays apparently support O'Rourke because of his looks gives the appearance of confirming all the worst historical stereotypes of the gay community. You should be ashamed of yourself.

R6 He should not be associating with Sharpton. I don’t get why most of the Democratic candidates are bowing before him. Obama didn’t.

Beto's campaigning in Iowa. Yesterday he gave Trump hell about his Nazi racist rhetoric. The rightwing's gone nuts but the left is delighted. No more Mr. Nice Guy. Here's a Fox News reporter trying to trap him..

Both Beto and Pete spoke at the Sharpton event. Beto spoke - as usual - without notes or teleprompter. Pete was reading most of his speech.

Beto kisses the ring

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke appeared Wednesday to back off his initial opposition to slavery reparations, saying he would support a bill in Congress to study and consider the payments.

The former three-term congressman from Texas made his comments during an appearance in New York before the National Action Network, a civil rights organization founded by Al Sharpton.

Asked by Sharpton if he would back a measure introduced by Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, a fellow Texan, O’Rourke answered, “absolutely I would sign that into law.”

The comments by O’Rourke represent an apparent shift on the issue for the White House contender.

Campaigning in Iowa last month, O’Rourke indicated he was not in favor of traditional reparations but stressed that it was crucial for the nation to confront the truth of how black people have been treated in America and that systematic racism exists in the country.

And a few days later, campaigning in New Hampshire, O’Rourke said: “I don’t believe… that [reparations] should be the primary or initial focus of the conversation."

Jackson-Lee's law doesn't stipulate payments, it sets up a commission to study how to address persistent racial inequality in the US. Reparations would only be a second act resulting from the conclusions of the commission.

OK - it looks like Beto's audiences include a lot of horny college girls just like in Texas. He's giving a speech on Facebook at some college and he comes in and they all scream like he's the Beatles.

He's a good looking fellow, whatever else you think of him.

Wow. Today Trump was filmed saying about asylum seekers: "These are not people. They're animals." Fucking hell. Yesterday a bunch of pearl clutchers were saying oh, Beto's gone too far!

So, Beto has failed to catch fire even after relaunching his campaign. The country is not Texas. Should keep an eye on that senate seat imho.

R30 you are obviously not following the campaign - Beto's knocking 'em dead in Iowa.

[quote] So, Beto has failed to catch fire even after relaunching his campaign.

🙄 Yeah, sure. Only if you use some ridiculous "instant" measurement 10 months before the first primaries and caucuses occur. He looks like he's bringing in big crowds wherever he goes.

[quote] He looks like he's bringing in big crowds wherever he goes.

So did Hillary, until people noticed how the networks were rigging the view

Beto's held 45 events so far - and that's in only 2 weeks. The others have done few events. Beto kept that blistering pace up for 2 years in Texas. He can do it in the Presidential race too. He'll out-campaign everybody else.

He can campaign all he wants but can’t force people to like him if they’re feeling him.

Why is Mayor Pete being discussed in a Beto thread?

All I see when I look at him is “Kennedy”.

Astro-turfing, R36. Someone is desperate for us to support the minor DEM candidates while they trash the leaders.

R38 I mean I understand the whole "darkhorse candidate" thing and a lot of Dlers seem to think Pete is that candidate but primaries are a year from now who knows what and how people are gonna vote

Wow. Beto sure ran out of steam quickly, didn’t he? Pete is where it’s at right now, and he isn’t even trying as hard as Beto.

R40 = Pete’s husband

Sorry gurl, Beto is third right behind Kamala and is getting more per day than both Sanders and Harris.

He's a sexy slut

One person on here is a Pete lover and he makes it up as he goes along. He's trying to win the Trump Liars Award for 2019. Just pretend he's not here. Carry on.

R40 do you guys not have your own Pete thread? Go suck his dick over there

Sean Maloney's in Beto's corner...

^Is he voting for Beto because he’s so hot? 😂

I know nothing of any of the democratic candidates stances( not including Sanders and warren) except Biden seems to think the dems should go for the middle and ignore the left of the party. Also its idiotic to pay any attn to polls, especially at this point. Virtually every poll in the country had clinton winning by 5 points in 2016. Pollsters and pundits are morons who cant do anything else for a liviing. Ive heard vaguely Beto is a phony but I have no idea. Trump dominates the narrative and until later in the year when 2020 elections start to get more serious, its just white noise.

[QUOTE]Beto is third right behind Kamala and is getting more per day than both Sanders and Harris.

Check out the recent New Hampshire poll, hon.

The only electable Dems are Beto and Biden. Only they can get crossover votes in red and purple states. Only Beto can carry Texas. And Trump cannot win without Texas. Which explains why the GOP's trolling him 24/7. The others can only win blue states and we can't take the White House with only them.

Pete is now getting all the attentionl. Beto currently in 6th behind Joe, Bernie, Pete, Kamala and Liz

Pete's getting non-stop publicity from the MSM and Beto's getting bashed non-stop by the MSM. This explains that. But Pete (like Beto before him) is starting to get trashed for taking attention away from more qualified women candidates. He's gonna be in the doghouse soon.

BANG ME, BETO

I agree that Mayor Pete stole Beto's thunder...Beto needs to be more proactive and be all over the media like Mayor Pete. Just compare their Twitter accounts...Mayor Pete is being very aggressive staking out positions on many issues....while Beto has a single tweet about Dreamers and several tweets about knocking on doors of potential voters.

R53 Although I agree to an extent, I think Mayor Pete is also getting INVITED to do more media because he's a "novelty act" so to speak. Eventually the novelty will wear off and the media will move on.

Beto needs to do some shirtless jogging.

In shorts of a 7-inch inseam or shorter.

You know that torso is TIGHT.

Beto couldn’t even win a Texas Senate race in a blue wave election against Ted Cruz. He won’t win TX in a Pres election. I don’t see Dems winning TX regardless of who is running in 2020.

I’ve seen Beto speak and he’s a good looking guy who speaks like an average liberal politician.

Pete is stealing his thunder because he’s in another league intellectually.

Polls right now, at this stage and at this time are popularity based. Pete is getting air time and doing interviews which is why he's getting popular. That doesn't mean he'll necessarily win or manage to keep it up.

Let's see what happens when the Summer debates come.

The mayor and the lesbian

R56 silly boy. Beto got 4million+ votes and came within 2.4% of defeating a Republican incumbent. Texas hasn't elected a Democratic Senator since 1988. Cruz's approval rating in Texas is currently 50%. Trump's current approval rating in Texas is 39%. A Democratic who can carry Texas blocks Trump's path to victory.

Pete's only statewide race was for State Treasurer. He lost by 40% in a state Obama carried in 2008. Why isn't Pete running for Congress or the Senate or Governor or anything else? Because he cannot win obviously.

Has Beto released his nudes yet? It would really help figure out who to vote for.

Let's just gay-up this country, shall we??

R59 and Beto fans everywhere are learning the hard way that “looks” and Vanity Fair spreads matter little in politics unlike Hollywood. I can’t believe they listed (with straight faces) Beto’s height as one of the main reasons we should support him. These are lobotomy patients.

[quote] Beto fans everywhere are learning the hard way that “looks” and Vanity Fair spreads matter little in politics unlike Hollywood.

No they haven't, and won't.

R62 whether you want to admit it or not but looks and sex appeal matter to the Democratic voters. You need a certain amount of sex appeal and good "looks" to win.

That Pete has stolen Beto’s mojo is not in dispute and is something many are discussing. But it is interesting to see articles like this try to explain how it happened and mention the very things that were brought up in previous threads about the hollowness of Beto and his candidacy that got people called haters and even blocked for pointing out the obvious.

I am not a Beto supporter, but I want for the Democratic nominee to beat Trump. I agree it’s still early and there’s a chance he might even change course. But it has to be a radical shift if he wants to be taken seriously down the line and hope current perceptions of him don’t have legs because his launch was a disaster.

Is the Beto troll on suicide watch now?

The emergence of Mayor Pete exposed the hollowness and the "there's no there there" element of Beto. Pete is like Beto's smarter, younger brother and he is being courted by the media as the second coming of Obama. As much as I hate to give Trump any sort of credit, the second he pointed out the hand gestures thing, it's almost all I could notice about Beto when he did his Iowa rollout. Just too much gesticulating and not enough substance or gravitas.

Even Nicolle Wallace has jumped from the Beto bus to the Mayor Pete train.

Don't count Beto out yet. He's still drawing large and enthusiastic crowds everywhere he goes. The difference is the media has stopped reporting on him because they're incapable of covering more than one person or subject at a time.

R67 that's gonna change. Steve Kornacki just analyzed fundraising figures. Pete's supporters are all white people, the vast majority with an income over $100K. Pete also lost districts in South Bend with voters who were POC. Though the population of South Bend is 40% POC - nothing but white people showed up at his launch.

He is already being called Mayo Pete on black twitter. He can't go anywhere without the support of POC and he doesn't have it. Beto rates higher with black voters than Kamala does - second only to Biden.

Steve Kornaki is annoying.

[QUOTE]He is already being called Mayo Pete on black twitter.

Did Jason Johnson come up with that?

Pete will not be able to attract voters from the South. It's really that simple. Beto can bring them in, the independents in the Midwest, Hispanic and female voters.

AND Texas going blue would be sooooooo sweet

I don’t think Texas is ready to go blue yet. They keep voting for Cruz, who is a repulsive human being. Anyone who can vote for that space alien is voting party, not personality, because the only personality he has is “repulsive,” dialed to 11.

Kamala (top of the ticket) + Mayor Pete (bottom) = all blacks all gays all victory baby. Sorry Beto, Pete is IN!

It will be a national election, R72, and the Senate race in Texas last year was very close. Many told Beto to challenge it. I think they're primed to go blue.

Pete peaked too soon, R73, and he's too controversial. The church goers aren't happy with his 'attacks' on Mother and her babyIn the South it's still all about keeping the guns, making God the mission, and repudiating the gay. Acknowledging it won't hurt you and you don't have to drag down Beto for Pete's sake.

What's controversial about Pete? That he's gay? He seems like the most non-controversial boy scout who's ever been in the running for president.

[quote] He is already being called Mayo Pete on black twitter.

Ouch. That's hitting the nail on the head

R75, that and the fight with Pence clan. The xtians are not pleased with him and the independents would rather vote for someone electable.

Guns, God, and gays are what concern the voters he'll have to attract to win. I'm not sure how he'll manage it, franky, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him chosen as a VP or part of a Democratic administration.

Any Christian person who loves Mother Pence is a Republican. There are plenty of Christians who are Democrats and liberals. Mother seems to have let it drop for now so maybe it didn’t turn out as well as he thought.

“Mayo Pete” isn’t a political commentary, it’s a racist slam against somebody for being white.

Would it be okay to call a black candidate “Black Pete”?

I don't really care what "Black Twitter" is saying.

R79, I normally don’t either, but Jesus Christ, according to those people Pete is Satan. I’ve never seen such animosity towards a Democratic candidate by black people. You’d think he was doing interviews wearing a white hood.

The only thing I can figure is they want Kamala to win and it looks like she’s not going to. They’re only going after one person, him. And a lot of it is outright lies and gaslighting.

Meanwhile, Beto has been driving through the South and picking up allegiances and endorsements from black elected reps.

He even put on a suit.

Beto has had massive crowds in South Carolina, North Carolina and now in Virginia. Lot of black audiences too. I'm thinking he can not only carry Texas but North Carolina too.

His twitterfeed's full of selfies with college girls black, white and Hispanic - all with Hearts-Eyes. He's got the coed vote locked up.

I've noticed that Pete's crowds overwhelmingly look a lot like him: white. That may be OK in Iowa and NH. But that won't play in South Carolina, NC, or Virginia. On the other hand, Beto's crowds seem exceptionally diverse, by race, gender, and age.

We warned you Beto fans, but you wouldn’t listen. At this point even VP is slipping away from him

I saw video from one of Beto's appearances today — a huge crowd, with horny women young and old in front. Boomers to Gen Z, creaming after getting to shake his hand. That gym floor was awash in pussy juice.

Who got JFK elected in that razor-tight race? Women who thought he was cute.

That's right, GOP, keep threatening to imprison women for abortion. Then watch hottie Beto run against Trump and see where that gets you.

Who got JFK elected in that razor-tight race? ̶W̶o̶m̶e̶n̶ 𝑺𝒂𝒎 𝑮𝒊𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒂𝒏𝒂 who thought he was cute.

Beto was asked today about his low charitable contributions. He gave an answer about how campaigning was a sacrifice. Some people accepted that, but others thought it was a poor response.

Edmundo Molina @EdmundoMolina6 Replying to @toddgillman and @BetoORourke He’s got three young kids, and kids are expensive. Give him a break!

Was responded to with:

Sundaynista @Sundaynista · 2h Replying to @EdmundoMolina6 and @toddgillman Beto is worth about $9M. His wife’s father is worth $500M.

His charitable contributions were about $1200.

That is a low amount of charitable donations. I'm disappointed in that. But, apparently none of the Dems have been particularly generous in that regard from what the news said.

It's asinine to nitpick about who gave what to charity when the bottom line is: we know this because all the Dems RELEASED THEIR TAXES.

R85 Pete fans once again: go suck Pete's dick somewhere else this is a Beto thread.

Once all you get away from your Pete fantasies you'll realise that Pete barely had a word to say about Pence when he was Governor of Indiana. But now he suddenly cares? Uh huh.

[QUOTE]Pete barely had a word to say about Pence when he was Governor of Indiana. But now he suddenly cares? Uh huh.

This talking point is trash and has already been thoroughly debunked to you in other threads. Why don't you go lick Beto's crotch.

[quote]Sundaynista @Sundaynista · 2h Replying to @EdmundoMolina6 and @toddgillman Beto is worth about $9M. His wife’s father is worth $500M.

Idiots will idiot on Twitter.

What has his FIL's net worth have to do with it? It's not Beto's money to give away in his name and claim a tax deduction?!

R92 so please explain to me why Pete was completely silent on Pence while he was Governor or Indiana.

Let's be honest. If Pete wasnt gay, Data Lounge wouldn't even look in his direction.

And Pete's racist videos are already flying around the internet. Won't be long till he has to answer to those.

One can be for Beto without being anti-Pete. Something the hardcore Pete stans can't seem to grasp.

R95, because on DL you're not allowed to like two candidates. If you support Candidate A, then you must absolutely despise Candidate B. Or at least that's what the trolls would love.

[QUOTE]And Pete's racist videos are already flying around the internet.

Oh really? Provide a link to one of them. We'll wait.

R97 Black Twitter is already calling him "Mayo Pete".

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/secret-tapes-racially-tinged-police-scandal-may-revive-difficult-time-n994871

R98, your bizarrely written link is to an article about the possible existence of some secret tapes, not the "racist video" you were falsely purporting to have been floating around the internet. FAIL.

Also, no one gives a fuck what "Black Twitter" is saying. I don't live and die by what Ava DuVernay shat out as a tweet this morning.

Beto has the millennial vote.

Why exactly would Beto have the millennial vote, R100?

It will be a bloodbath between Harris and Beto for Nevada, California, and Texas. Whoever wins two of the three will get the nom.

Harris has zero chance in Texas. It'll be Beto with 10% hardcore lefties for Bernie and 10% lunatic Asians for Yang.

R101 Beto increased the millennial vote by 500% in Texas. Judging from his rallies, every college girl in Texas has a crush on him and got off their asses to vote.

I don't see why Harris would have any 'natural' support in Nevada. She has no appeal to Latinos.

Harris will get California and Texas will go to Beto, but Nevada comes first in the Calendar. If Beto/Harris do not finish 1 or 2 in Nevada, expect to see them drop out of the race. Not placing well in Iowa or NH is not importan to their long term aspirations, but Nevada, South Carolina, and Super Tuesday are a must.

You wish, R100. Millennials have their own candidate in Buttigieg, whom they will vote for.

Hello,

It's me.

[quote]Let's be honest. If Pete wasnt gay, Data Lounge wouldn't even look in his direction.

Except he’s not popular only on DL.

Since they analyzed Pete's donor base, it's obvious he's only popular in NYC, DC, LA and SF. His support is strictly upper middle class white people living in those solid blue cities. He can't win the nomination with that. He's the pundits' darling.

[quote] Millennials have their own candidate in Buttigieg, whom they will vote for.

Gay millennials, yes. But that doesn't seem to apply across the board. And, you can't win the nomination with just that demographic.

[quote]n NYC, DC, LA and SF.

LA and San Fran are not white cities. I don't care what people say. However, Pete is actually not courting the minority vote and that might hurt him in the long run (in fact, it could be as soon as Iowa and New Hampshire primaries are over). O'Rourke, Castro, and Harris are climbing rather quick in the polls. Biden and Sanders are still leading in the polls, but as NALEO cited, it is mostly on name recognition which is a poor indicator of sustainability in competitive primaries.

[quote] LA and San Fran are not white cities.

OK. But that's not what the poster above said. He said that

[quote] he's only popular in NYC, DC, LA and SF. His support is strictly upper middle class white people living in those solid blue cities.

His support comes largely from white people living in those cities -- not that the cities themselves are largely white. And I think that's accurate. Here in DC the gay millennials are going nuts over Pete. But I don't get the same sense from people who aren't gay or white.

[quote] in DC the gay millennials are going nuts over Pete. But I don't get the same sense from people who aren't gay or white.

𝑴𝒂𝒚𝒐 𝑷𝒆𝒕𝒆 supports that theory

Beto's been doing dozens of Town Halls, full of college girls. He's got that millennial vote locked down. They all tweet how they swooned in his presence. It's Betomania 2.0.

Pete has proposed creating Americorps and child tax credits in a speech.

So he proposed creating things that already exist. Twitter is taking the micky out of him badly.

Stop being a cunt, R114.

Pete's great and so is Beto. I'm really happy to have some young, engaged candidates in the race.

I'd have to say that Beto has the best chance of winning as I see it now. I love what Pete is saying, but I don't think he can attract much of the independent vote in the South or the Latino vote. Beto could.

I also think Beto would mop the floor with lying Don. Pete may have some problems with that and be peaking a bit too early.

I think that you are correct R116. I expect Beto will do decently in Iowa and New Hampshire but not necessarily win either one. I would expect him to win in Nevada and South Carolina. And win big on the first Super Tuesday.

Beto the Has-Been.

𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮 𝗗𝘂𝗺𝗽𝗲𝗱 𝗕𝗲𝘁𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗠𝗮𝘆𝗼𝗿 𝗣𝗲𝘁𝗲

There was never any logic behind the Beto candidacy. Never.

He is HOT AS HELL. I'll give you that. Probably the best looking politician in the country. And he's generally liberal and seems like a nice enough guy.

But there was no substance behind it. There never has been. If you want to do anything more than oogle your candidate he doesn't offer you anything.

Some of you say we need a white male to win. I don't agree with that even a little, but even if you feel that way you have to admit Pete is a more solid option. There's something going on between his ears.

And I say this as someone who basically likes him and happily donated to his Senate campaign. I think given sometime in the senate with serious lawmakers he probably could learn a lot. He's a smart guy. But he's just not ready for something like this

The logic behind the Beto candidacy is that in a Presidential year, he can carry Texas and the GOP cannot win the Presidency without Texas.

How thick are you people? Pete - or Mayo Pete as black twitter calls him - can't win anything beyond ultra-blue states. He's no use to the Dems. And his lack of support with PoC will kill off his campaign.

R120 Gets it. This isn't about policies. Or experience. This is about Winning At All Costs. We have to nominate someone who can WIN. Deal with the niceties later, but first we have to save the fucking country from disaster.

That would be a much stronger case had he won Texas, but he didn't. Rather than gamble with a reach state, its safer to just go for the states Obama won, which was plenty.

There are absolutely SOME voters who just want a pretty face and some charisma and don't care about anything else. But there weren't enough to win Texas and I genuinely don't believe there are enough to win the presidency.

Look at that lard Trump. Hideous, disgusting human being inside and out but he won anyway. Beto isn't the surefire winner you think he is. And his poll numbers back that up

Oh please. Poll numbers at this point are meaningless.

Some people want to call the primary race a few weeks into this. We are months away from any votes being cast.

His fans here set VERY high expectations for him saying things like Biden was afraid of him and he would be the immediate front runner.

That's part of why his polling (which is meh but not bad) seems worse than it actually is

Beto's polling is meh right now because the media has been all over Mayor Pete to the exclusion of every other candidate, so Pete now has major name recognition in his favor (along with Biden.)

Pete's got big problems with black people. Black pundits - Jamil Smith, Jason Johnson - have started the attack. He has a really bad record with POC in South Bend.

Beto arguably got as far as he is right now because of excessive coverage. The press are fickle. Fair weather friends as they say. Any strategy based on them giving you good coverage is doomed

Pete’s “really bad record” involves a police chief illegally bugging some officers who were doing something wrong. When Pete found out about the illegal bugging, the police chief was fired. Because the police chief is not supposed to be a criminal, not because Pete is a hood-wearing bigot.

Meanwhile, there’s lawsuits in every direction because blacks want the tapes, the tapes were made illegally and if they were released it would be a crime. But Black Twitter doesn’t care, they just want the tapes, they didn’t want the police chief fired, and the want the tapes illegally played. Here in real life, if you have evidence of wrongdoing that’s collected illegally and released, the criminal can be let go because it prejudices his case.

If you don’t like Pete, fine. But please don’t spread lies about a candidate.

This is not just about Pete. If I read on Black Twitter that Beto is a Martian, and therefore not eligible to run for President, I would correct that too. Because some one of these people is going to be either the nominee or maybe the VP, and letting lies about them just sit out there is not ok. Be accurate.

There appears to be a lot of false reporting on Black Twitter about a lot of things, and I’m wondering if some of these people are Russians trying to stir up shit. It’s just too many people posting stuff that is obviously false or doesn’t make any sense, and then somebody else picks it up.

R129 Im wondering if your the troll. What is your beef with black twitter? Do you spend any time on twitter? Just about every major group there talks up their candidates and attacks all others. Frequently with misinformation. It's rampant and isn't tied to any race in particular so I'm not sure why you're bringing race into it

Because there are some very angry people on Black Twitter that are really riling people up with false information.

I started seeing a bunch of stuff on my feed from people I don’t follow and know nothing about, and they were repeatedly talking about how they heard from somebody that is a popular source on there, that Pete is evil, so therefore you must vote for Kamala, etc. I had been researching some of the candidates and I knew what they were saying wasn’t even honest mistakes, unless they’re complete morons. It was deliberately twisting things around or outright lying.

Then all these people would post responses saying they believed it, without checking for themselves.

It was just way too calculated. This wasn’t some random person saying, I love Kamala, this was people with large followings posting something and all their fans would pick it up. And they were described as people that others listen to.

And I saw very few “I love Kamala” posts. Most of them were, so-and-so is a devil worshipper who eats babies, vote Kamala. Regular people don’t spend all their time attacking other candidates and nothing on their preferred candidate.

It has been noted recently that Russians are on Black Twitter and they were also using black avatars in 2016. They're doing it on Facebook too. They tried in 2016 to turn blacks against Hillary and others and had some success.

Michael Tracy, Jack Posobiec, and Mike Cernovich are three white people with large followings who spend all day spreading nonsense. And that was literally just off the top of my head

And that's not to even mention conspiracy theories like Qanon.

If you are only seeing angry black people on twitter its either a reflection of who you follow. You sound like you just want a reason to spread racial divisiveness

I literally do not follow these people. They just dropped into my twitter feed one day and I had no idea why they were there. I found that very weird because I don’t usually follow that type of person anyway. Most of the people I follow are journalists and newspapers. I don’t follow celebrities or personalities.

I think you have to accept that twitter has certainly been infiltrated by Russians by now. I read recently that Facebook had leaked, or was hacked, a lot of passwords of their users.

You can’t assume that someone on Black Twitter or anyplace else is actually an American.

The NYTimes article about Pete is what they're referring to. There have also been articles in HuffPost and Buzzfeed. If Pete can't get the support of POC, he's out of the game. They're the Dems' strongest supporters.

Pete, unlike Beto, has the skills to overcome such a hurdle.

How about y'all take all of this shit to a Pete thread?

PeteBros attacked Tiffany Cross yesterday when she criticized Pete's racist record in South Bend. PeteBros are getting as toxic as BernieBros.

Beto's IG story today featured Beto at home making pancakes from scratch.

Seems like he is a great dad. Probably too much of a "fun" dad

All the travel and campaigning must be hard on a family. I hope they get through it unscathed.

[quote] I’m wondering if some of these people are Russians trying to stir up shit.

Jesus Christ aren't you dimwits over the Russia bullshit yet.

[quote] Pete, unlike Beto, has the skills to overcome such a hurdle.

OK. Sure, Jan.

🙄

“Pete’s racist record”?

Do tell, R138. Tell us about all of Pete’s racist actions, how his dad wore a white hood and burned crosses like Trump’s dad. Do tell.

PeteBro: stick to the Pete threads. Steve Kornacki analyzed his donor base (and Kornacki is gay himself). His support comes from white people earning over $100K and living in NYC, DC or California.

He has 0 support with PoC... the Democrats' strongest constituency. Increasingly he is being attacked by African American journalists. The MSM is trying to ignore this as they created him - he's a nobody. His record in South Bend is that of a Republican and - the cherry on the cake - Buttigieg brags about being palsy-walsy with Zuckerberg.

Who’s the obviously white troll that’s trying to make “Mayo Pete” happen? No one thinks he’s a racist.

Can we get back to what's actually important?

Beto is the best looking political figure if our times

I've been on Team Lanky Skate Punks since about 1986.

Who is the Pete troll posting on a Beto thread?

There's a pic of Beto taking his shirt off to put on a T shirt on twitter. He has truckdriver's tan on his arms but his torso is not tanned. Looks good. Needs to sunbathe.:

Pete troll: can you please tell him to go on a diet. He's chubby with very wide hips. Totally out of shape. Please create a GoFundMe to get a gym membership for him.

r150 share that picture here immediately!!!

I think you're misinterpreting the term "Mayo Pete." It's to indicate that he seems to be as white-bread as they come. You know: speaks seven languages, plays two musical instruments, good Episcopalian. All those "oh, gosh" things.

If the joke is that highly educated people come off "super white", it seems to be a racist joke.

Nonetheless, it'd be great if all Pete talk both pro and con could find its way to one of the 1,275 currently active Pete threads.

R154 I'm not the Pete Stan and I see why you're annoyed but I think he is relevant here because he is competition for Beto voters.

The same way we talk about Bernie in thread about Warren. Because they are competing for similar voters.

So any ideas why Beto ins't doing this CNN town hall tonight?

[quote] So any ideas why Beto ins't doing this CNN town hall tonight?

Don't be silly. A good bro will never miss WWE Monday Night RAW.

[quote] If the joke is that highly educated people come off "super white", it seems to be a racist joke.

🙄

You appear to be going out of your way to make this into something racist. Got it.

BULLETIN: VIDEO OF SHIRTLESS BETO RELEASED

Pete can't speak French for shit. Don't know about the other languages he claims to speak. His little prepared statement had like a dozen mistakes in it. But I'm sure he impresses the waiters at the French restaurant in South Bend.

Pete Bros: please do something about tubby Pete's weight and blobby-ness. He is going to look so short and chubby on the stage next to Beto. Pete's only 5'7" and Beto's 6'5". Can you get him some of those Tom Cruise shoes??

The person that started the Pete talk started it by lying and distorting Pete’s record.

I’m looking at several candidates right now. If I start reading on the internet that people shouldn’t vote for Warren because she beats her black housemaid with a tire iron, or don’t vote for Beto because he slept with Mike Pence, I’m going to have a problem with that too. A lot of this stuff comes from internet trolls that are posting all over Twitter and Facebook and they’re either paid Russians or Republican trolls at best.

They’re doing it because they want to damage Democratic candidates to help Trump. This stuff isn’t even to promote one Democratic candidate over another, it’s to weaken Democratic candidates in general so that whoever Trump faces will be heavily damaged. And it’s too soon to know who that is now, it could be any of them. So they go after whoever’s getting a lot of attention.

If next week it’s Beto in the lead, just wait. It will be “did you hear about the time Beto gang raped twenty girls in high school?” Don’t listen to people that make these wild claims with no substantiating evidence or links. The stuff on DL they’re claiming comes straight from twitter. There is no real backup because it didn’t happen. Don’t help those people.

Pete troll. Go back to the Pete threads. You'll be happier there.

R156 Beto is refusing to go on cable news - also a reason why they're bashing him. He is doing only grassroots stuff, doing Facebook livefeeds of his town halls and getting local media coverage. I think he is calculating that - as the primaries are a year away - the threat of overexposure at this juncture is too great.

God bless you r159

And God bless America

I want to count every hair on Beto's body with my tongue.

I could spend days doing Beto

He just naturally oozes sex appeal with no effort

He's so tall but he's graceful. Men that tall are generally clumsy and awkward but he isn't.

He was a skater. Good coordination

But there are five people doing CNN Town Halls tonight and a lot of people who don’t know anything about any of them will tune in.

It’s a good way to get free advertising and it’s actually substantive information, not just judging pies at the county fair or something. Not that candidates don’t have to do that too, but a lot of the coverage now is 30 second sound bites at best. Getting a whole hour for free is a good chance to make your pitch and it must be worth millions of dollars in paid advertising.

Saying I won’t do it, is actually a disservice to voters who are just starting to get engaged and don’t really know anything about any of them. If you spend one hour listening to Elizabeth Warren talking about policy, and zero hours hearing Beto’s policy, a lot of people are going to go for the one they can hear, even if it’s not necessarily the best one, out of default.

It’s early days, so this is a chance to say something that will make you break out and get a lead over others. I can see not wanting to cut a ribbon or something, but this is about ideas.

Anybody think Beto will do a Town Hall on a day when other candidates are not doing it too?

[quote] Beto’s policy

LOL 😂

Beto unlike the vast majority of candidates has policy positions up on his website. Only others who do are Warren, Gillibrand and Yang.

That’s the same problem Hillary had. “It’s all on my website,” doesn’t work for people who don’t want to read pages of complicated policy.

We all know people have criticized Hillary for that.

Let's see, first the problem is that he has no policies or plans -- until it is pointed out that in fact he does. Then the problem is that they're on his website. As opposed to where, exactly? Putting things like this on a website is apparently also a problem because Hillary did it.

Beto mentions policy in his meetings with voters and in response to questions. So what precisely would you have him do?

Hmm, I blocked one person and nine posts between R165 and R174 disappeared.

Don’t blame me because people didn’t want to read Hillary’s website. They didn’t. How many times have people complained about this?

People are lazy. You may want voters to all be engaged and reading page after page of technical policy on a website, but a lot of voters aren’t smart enough to understand what they’re reading. Others can’t be bothered. Most voters probably never looked at any of the websites, or past the first couple pages at most.

Remember who was elected election instead of Ms. Well-Thought Out Policies? Mr Build the Wall.

Voters are morons. If you can’t say it in a few words, they’ll never get it.

R175 I don't think that's possible? Those 9 comments aren't all the same person

Voters either like a candidate or they don't. People like Beto. Elizabeth Warren can bring out 10 brilliant policies a day and nobody gives a fuck because nobody likes her. Hell, people adored Hillary compared to how much they don't like Warren.

I thought Warren would acquire Bernie's obsessed fans as their policies are so similar. They did a poll of Bernouts - if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, will they vote for Warren? Nope. They're a cult.

Actually I saw some people on twitter who said they were Berners in 2016 and have been turned off him for one reason or another. They liked Warren. But most Berners, I agree, are not changing.

There seems to be a small cult of Warren followers that are going on and on about her policies being the best. Since it’s so early and some others haven’t even posted their policies in detail, I’m guessing those people are policy wonks. Which is not the majority, by any stretch of the imagination.

Look at Trump: “Me like wall.” “Groping women fun.” “Wife has big tits.” Elected. That’s what you’re dealing with.

Come to think of it, I wonder what would happen if you ran a younger, handsomer Trump that said and did the same things. I bet a lot of Deplorables would love that guy even more.

Maybe Beto could start grabbing boobs at a rally.

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Warren's desperate to go up in the polls. She has some good ideas but mainly that need to be reigned in by reality. She cannot be elected. Too many people can't stand her. Maybe she's running to be Secretary of the Treasury.

Beto is only polling like 2 pts above Warren. Stop acting like its some dramatic difference

Did anybody watch the Town Hall last night? Overbearing: Warren and Sanders Underwhelming: Klobuchar, Harris and Buttigieg.

We do NOT have an embarrassment of riches. Judging by last night - we've just got an embarrassment.

At the She the People forum for WoC in Houston yesterday, Beto was brilliant. The crowd screamed enthusiastically when he came on and when he left was chanting Be-to, Be-to. Joy Reid was the moderator and looked surprised by his reception (being he's a white guy) and looked all flustered when he came on, telling him "oh, you're so tall in person". Is he short on TV?

He was asked about the minimum wage and went into a detailed discussion not only of the disparities between what white women, black women and Hispanic women earn (and naturally he had all the percentages) but pointed out that the ERA's ratification would help to alleviate the problem. Joy went: "Wow" when he brought up the ERA.

On Lawrence O'Donnell's show later, Joy was gushing about Beto: "you ask him a question and it's like a computer goes off in his head: he gives you a detailed answer with all the relevant facts placed in historical context - hits on every point you raised. Amazing."

Great. Now why the fuck wasn't that all over the media?

Because the media have been over him for a while. He’ll regret that Vanity Fair spread and the day he decided to stream from his dentist.

I don't regret the Vanity Fair spread though and that's what's important.

Looks like Beto's presidential aspirations are finished for good. Do you think he will try for the other Texas senate seat, or just go away?

R189 - you're nuts. Beto's not going anywhere. He's on purpose avoiding TV - article in Politico today. He doesn't want to start boring people with overexposure the way Pete has.

Beto can carry Texas. You don't need the Rust Belt if you can carry Texas.

I see no reason why the Rust Belt would pick Pete over Beto anyway.

Uncle Joe will be taking much of the oxygen for himself from now on. It’s going to come down to two old coots for the nomination with the rest angling for veep. And that would be as good as interviewing for president because Joseph will be one-term.

Pete seems to think that a bunch of racist, blue collar Trump supporters will vote for him because they aren't homophobic. Insanity.

Beto criticizes Obama over deportations and ICE

At the She the People Presidential Forum, for Rep. Beto O’Rourke criticized the Obama administration’s number of deportations and tactics used by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

[quote] The practices under this president, the practices under the last president, where families were broken up, where you had internal enforcement — I think in one year alone in the previous administration, 400,000 deportations from inside the United States, some people who had been here for decades, who pose no threat … We don’t need those internal roundups and deportation and enforcement.

^ Seems like Beto thinks he doesn’t need the black vote. Shading the first black president is the right way to do it.

I'm am black and not voting for Beto in the primary.

However, he is 100% accurate about Obama's immigration policies. Obama empowered ICE and dramatically ramped up deportations and arrests. It was first under him that ICE started doing outrageous things like pick people up leaving walmart or deporting immigrants after they testified in court cases.

He believed that if he got "tough" on immigration, republicans would give him immigration reform. He was 100% wrong. Republicans got all the cruelty and amoral immigration policy they wanted and Dems got nothing.

It's foolishness like that that should make it clear why picking another "Consensus building" candidate is is idiotic. There is NOTHING the GOP will ever do that would give a Dem president a win. So you should just pick a candidate that will pursue good policy and leave the GOP out of it.

^ You May be black, but you’re not representative of the black community. I’d say less than 5% share your criticism.

R197 Besides being black I'm also an immigrant.

All black people might not agree but every immigrant or person who spends time around immigrants knows Beto is exactly right. Beto is from Texas where people have seen the results of this draconian policy first hand.

[quote]^ You May be black, but you’re not representative of the black community. I’d say less than 5% share your criticism.

You just went through 8 years of protests over ice immigration practices under the Obama administration. What do you mean only 5% share in the criticism of the Obama administration immigration practices? Beto’s view is not uncommon in the Southwest.

Beto's comments were well received at the forum because they were true. Obama was the Deporter-in-Chief. No getting around it and he is the only candidate who is honest enough to mention it.

He can't attack Trump on immigration if he ignores Obama. And immigration is going to be Trump's key issue to campaign on.

Beto’s campaign started out by trying to attract the most talented people. Now those that signed up early based on the PR blitz are quitting, probably upon discovering the emperor has no clothes. Rats 🐀 fleeing a sinking ship, and the beginning of a sad end for a candidate who had no business running for President. Now that both the veep spot and senate have probably slipped away too.

Beto's campaign manager is Jennifer O'Malley who was Obama's campaign manager in 2012. She got rid of the 2 BernieBros who had been working for him.

[quote] Jennifer O'Malley who was Obama's campaign manager in 2012. She got rid of the 2 BernieBros who had been working for him.

No wonder Beta is fading away. Taken down from the inside, and he lacked the strength to fight back.

How odd that he gets trolled on DL by rightwingers. The other candidates don't.

[quote] The other candidates don't.

What utter nonsense. Right wing trolls go after Kamala and Warren on here all the time. It's been happening for over a year now

More of Beto addressing black voters' issues. Very impressed by the guy asking the questions -- I hope he runs for office someday (and wins!)

I'm glad the two Bernie plants were "allowed to exit" the campaign. Who knows with these left over Bernos from 2016. You can never be too careful with them .

That guy at the forum was incredible. Hell, if he wins Beto should name him Secretary of Labor. Beto's segment at the Union forum was excellent. He always has all the facts at his disposal. He has an amazing memory. He reels off facts, figures, names, places everything in historical context. Joy Reid said you ask Beto a question and it's like he's got a computer that goes off in his head - he's got all the receipts and speaks eloquently and passionately to boot. He's gonna score big in the debates.

Beto seems to be refusing interviews with cable news though he has done an hour long interview with Jorge Ramos in Spanish which will be televised tomorrow morning.

Crowd of tens of people come to Beto appearance

Gauntlet thrown, Pete.

800+ showed up at Beto's Town Hall in San Francisco today. He was in LA last night and got a big crowd there too.

While Pete is posing for Vogue Magazine... Beto brings out the most detailed climate change policy ever.

[quote] Beto brings out the most detailed climate change policy ever.

Environmental activists slam weak Beto proposal

“Beto claims to support the Green New Deal, but his plan is out of line with [the] timeline it lays out and the scale of action that scientists say is necessary here in the United States to give our generation a livable future,” Sunrise Movement executive director Varshini Prakash said in a statement.

Net-zero emissions by 2050 in the U.S. is about 20 years too late.

To stay below 1.5 degrees C we need net-zero GLOBAL emissions by 2050 at the VERY LATEST.

Beto's climate plan isn't consistent with climate science and will let millions die.

Oh well, if the "Sunrise Movement" says so, it must be true.

So Beto fans have taken to attacking Pete nowadays? A few weeks ago, he didn’t matter to them.

THE VIEW RIPS BETO

McCain started by asserting:

I think there is, there’s a sort of cognitive dissonance; I don’t know which comes first; you’re right. Bernie, Biden, Buttigieg, they’re polling in the top three (unintelligible) in Iowa, New Hampshire, most swing states right now. Polls can change. I don’t know if it’s that journalists are following them because they’re doing so well; I will say it is noteworthy Pete Buttigieg is a minority in and of itself; he’s an openly gay man so that’s historical as well.

I will say that what bothers me of all the coverage of the candidates so far is — and I know you like him, but Beto’s coverage infuriates me on an almost daily basis. No woman could ever lose running for Senate and then go on a Jack Kerouac road trip, abandoning his wife and kids, finding himself (Goldberg starts laughing) then do an announcement on the cover of Vanity Fair, that’s what he did, and then going on — he did; he left them and went on a road trip to find himself after he lost. No woman could do that. And then he went on —

Behar, interrupting, turning to host Abby Huntsman: “But we could say that about your husband.”

McCain: — Just one second. And then he went on the cover of Vanity Fair and said he was born to run. I believe that if Kamala Harris or Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth had done any of those similar things they would be lambasted in the media. (Audience applauds)

Goldberg: Well, yeah, because if you have children, you can go, but nobody would understand.

McCain: You’re a grown-ass man finding yourself after you ran? I don’t understand it. (Audience applauds.)

Goldberg: Oh, honey.

McCain: I never get applause, so clearly people are agreeing with me. Imagine Kamala doing that?

Goldberg: Men are always, “Oh, I’ve got to find myself.” But women, you can’t get up and just leave your kids. You know, people will not — they don’t care if you find yourself when you have kids. You find your kids. That’s what you do.

I wonder how long McCain is going to last on the show now that her father's dead. She's a bitch, she isn't intelligent, she isn't witty and she's fat.

R214 the Sunrise Movement is a bunch of Bernie nutjobs.

If you pricked Meghan McCain with a needle she would deflate, leaving only a pathetic, wrinkled, rubbery scrap.

But she is correct. What a boneheaded move by Beto. And to publicise it? Who is advising this guy?

Meghan McCain is a moron, and is right about nothing.

And R220, you're not even American so why do you care?

Legal resident.

It wasn't just Meghan. It was Whoopi and most of the audience.

And you can't vote, R222. So fuck off.

According to new CNN poll favoring Biden, Beto support has evaporated. 13% in March down now to 6%.

Kamala likewise down from 12% to 5%.

Biden up from 28% now to 39%.

If you believe CNN.

I like a Biden-Buttegieg ticket.

Me too.

CNN’s polls are historically pretty good, also ABC, NyTimes/Wapo. Fox News polls are often pretty accurate, they take large samples. They often come up with something Republicans don’t like -reality.

The only poll of interest is the Texas poll which shows both Biden and Beto can beat Trump. I don't buy the Biden - nobody in Texas gives a fuck about Joe Biden. But Beto can pull it off. There is no way Trump can win in 2020 without Texas. This has got all the pundits waking up. You don't need the fucking Rust Belt if you've got Texas.

Nobody gives a fuck about Texas. It’s going to stay republican so who cares?

R229 - dummy

Im not trying to attack anyone here or take any side.

However while polls this far out can be useful in gauging interest, they have a terrible track record of choosing the eventual nominee.

In 2016 Hillary was ahead by 50 points. She won by about 10. In 2012 Herman Cain looked like he would win the GOP nom this far out. In 2008 Hillary was also the front runner yet Obama won. And in on the GOP side Giuliani was the front runner, and he imploded when he got real coverage.

Again, the polls just dont become predictive until maybe a month before Iowa

Beto is just too sexy to be president. It's not going to happen.

I said the same thing about Avenatti and i was proven right.

But Obama was sexy!

Lawdy, Lawdy, Sunrise Movement (the BernieBro kids who invented the Green New Deal) attacked Beto about his climate change policy when it came out.

Today, they apologized to him! They said they didn't agree with one of his deadlines but otherwise it's a great plan. And they're calling him "Beto".

Who do you think the Beto trolls will support now that Beto's campaign is effectively over?

Beto's campaign has just started Trump troll. He had very successful Town Halls in California and his detailed climate change policy is getting rave reviews.

R225 on the other hand, there's this. Where's the "Beto is over" troll?

^ So everyone but Warren beats Trump.

Beto beats Trump by 10 points - he is at this stage the strongest Dem against Trump. This poll comes out this morning. And an old lady pundit on Daily Beast proclaims "Beto is finished!"...

Nicolle Wallace was pointing out the punditry is so down on Beto and are ignoring his strength in the field. Garrett Haake said there's an enormous disconnect between the MSM and what he's hearing as he follows candidates around. MSM keeps claiming Pete's in with a shot (mainly because his Comm Director Lis Smith books him on every damn TV show) and Beto's finished.

Beto will resurrect at some point. He's smart to keep his profile low right now and the other candidates over-saturate the media.

Some old queen DLer must be a higher-up at MSM, it's the only explanation.

No one even knows the name of Beto's wife.

Interesting the Beto fans are touting a poll from CNN that places him strongly in a head to head against Trump but dismiss the same poll when it shows his support against other dems in the primaries could be as low as 4%.

Chasten, her name is Amy and she's very tall and very thin. Unlike you.

Beto's IG story about the family turtle was adorable.

Beto standing up for Pete. Pure class.

Beto is love.

This is a great way to set himself for the governorship of Texas in 2022. Same for Pete. Thanks to his 2020 presidential run he'll set himself up for the Governorship of Indiana. <3

Texas Governor is mostly ceremonial which is why Rick Perry and Dubya could do it. Lt Gov has more power.

[quote] Texas Governor is mostly ceremonial which is why Rick Perry and Dubya could do it.

And Ann Richards.

There's an article in the Washington Post written by Beto's ex-girlfriend. She's a professional writer. Sounds like she's still in love with him.

Excellent piece.

R250 of course she is. Ive never met Beto and even i can't stop thinking about him. Imagine having done him

When she's standing next to him in the photo she's almost as tall as he is. He's 6'5" so she must be well over 6'. An Amazon.

His ex is sorta famous as a writer.

[quote] He's 6'5" so she must be well over 6'. An Amazon.

She is probably standing on her daddy's wallet.

She's a redhead and so is Beto's wife. He's into redheads. Redheads are so basic.

This is a weirdly aggressive anti-Beto piece in Politico

The MSM trashes Beto as much as they promote Pete. The GOP is terrified of Beto. He can carry Texas and there's no path for Trump to win without Texas.

Chris Evans Beto's digital guy is gay, right?

Beto O’Rourke plans ‘reintroduction’ as 2020 buzz fizzles

He needs a break out moment in the debates or it's over

Is the Russian Troll/Beto Fangirl still alive, or did he end it yet? You there, buddy??

The Beto stans are not trolls. Just dickmatized. We've all been there

Politico is a piece of shit rag along with The Hill.

Beto is still visiting small communities. He really is making a play for Kamala's turf and she really is sleeping on this one. If Harris loses California to Beto her hopes are gone.

The media's takedown of Beto is coordinated. What's behind it? It's so OTT now it's obvious to anybody. I wonder if this started up when he called Netanyahu a racist. The MSM and AIPAC are inextricably linked.

Nothing is coordinated. The media is inherently fickle. It is the height of foolishness to rely on their good will. They regularly build people to break them down later. Politicians are no different than pop stars in that sense.

There is definitely a coordination there.

I love him, but he's out of his depth on the national stage.

He kind of had to try a presidential run after the fundraising results in Texas.

But it's not panning out. It's not going to pan out. I wonder if there's any way he can change course and run for Cornyn's Senate seat. Which he could win.

Tonight's appearance on Maddow was embarrassing.

Stammering, unassured. He pales next to Pete and Kamala.

Anytime people are seeing Beto's face, he's winning.

Bullshit R269 He knocked it out of the park. Bringing up the US' appalling history of exploiting Central America and how we are largely to blame for the migrants arriving at our border - was brilliant.

Kamala made a fool out of herself again with Tapper. If she's going to support Bernie's Medicare For All deal, it might be a good idea to actually find out what's in it. Don Lemon already had to correct her. Does she know what's in the Green New Deal she supports?

Pete's disappearing since his identity politics speech. Steve Kornacki on MTP had polls up showing Pete has zero support among PoC. In Indiana Pete gets solidly beaten by Biden among white people polled. Black people in Indiana gave Pete 0% of support.

I thought Beto did well on Rachel. He again didn't dive too deep but he did a good job of relating today's issues with our policies. He seemed informed and spoke well...although he does have more modern/young inflections in his speech patterns. I think he was a bit nervous or amped as he moves and fidgets a lot. He looked cute too.

The maddow interview was fine. He didn't do anything wrong but it won't help him much either. He is at less than 4% in the polls. He needs a viral moment. I think the debates are his only chance. I hope he makes the most of it.

I cannot stress enough that his style of campaigning, which necessitates the media covering him constantly to show off his charisma, is just too risky for a general election. Its why I don't support him for the nomination, even though I like him personally.

As Beto has learned, no one can control the media, they are fickle and unreliable. They are fair weather friends. The same people that built him up now do hit pieces for no reason. Beto's style of politics is not the right choice for 2020.

What is his "style" of politics? is Biden's style what will win in 2020? So far the electorate seems to think so.

The electorate's not paying attention. They're conflating Biden with Obama and Joe Biden is NO Obama.

Beto was on The View today which was surprising given they've been bashing him for months. Whoopi Goldberg was fucking rude. What's that bitch's problem? McCain was - of course - a bitch. Beto did a great job. He looked good too. I wonder if some of the hostility from women in the media is because of his looks? They want a woman to be candidate even if none of the ones running can take down Trump. And fuck it, a hot guy shows up.

Beto live-streaming his haircut was desperately embarrassing.

He’s a publicity hound.

He should drop out now.

The "Beto is embarrassing" Troll should be embarrassed at doing one of the lamest jobs of trolling I've seen on the DL. Bye, bitch.

I personally enjoy the Beto live streaming. I like looking at Beto in any context. But I don't think this is helping his camapign. He needs people to take him more seriously

Beto streamed his haircut and highlighted the story of the barber who had immigrated from Mexico, was running a successful business. And because he added the haircut, people paid attention. I loved the black guy who wandered in for a haircut and knew he recognized Beto but couldn't figure out if he was the governor or the mayor.

That being said, I wish Beto'd grow his hair out a little.

Beto’s haircut was a fail. He got ridiculed on Twitter and deserved it.

R279 just agreeing with anyyhing Beto does is not helping him. People do no think of him as a serious candidate. They think he's frivolous. This did not help that impression.

He needs to carry himself with some gravitas moving forward

People who watched the livestream loved it. And every political candidate in recent memory (including Bernie Sanders) has been filmed at the barber shop. It's the 'Salt of the Earth' place. And as it was mostly in Spanish, it's pandering to Latinos bigly.

"Gravitas?? Oh, you mean like they have in space, the astronauts and stuff? I love astronauts! America has produced the greatest astronauts of all time, with the most gravitas!!"

LOL! Beto actually is almost too deadly serious. He is incredibly intense and passionate. Watch him on Maddow.

Cold Open on Showtime's Presidential show

I like Beto but I am digging Steve Bullock too.

R282 The only who people who watched it were people already voting for him, which is not nearly enough even one state in the primary. He needs to move well beyond the audience who has liked him thus far. I know it's not want you want to hear but his campaign is going poorly. That is just fact based on numerous polls. He needs to take a different tack.

R286 Steve Bullock is Mountain State sexy.

Beto 2.0 is already forgotten again.

R289 sorry, pal, Politico just reported several of Obama's people have just gone to work for him. Which shows none of the Obama people have faith in Biden or Kamala.

Beto CNN town hall tonight.

Politico article

He really was spectacular. He will be fun to watch in the debates.

I hope he draws along with Pete and Eric Swalwell. Yummmmm. Poor Biden, he'll be the main target in whichever debate night he draws.

He was brilliant - never stumped for an answer and gave such incredible detail on subjects as obscure as returning carbon into the soil in farming (WTF?), he's already had 150 Town Halls since his launch and he's so at ease with people. It was very touching when Dana Bash asked him about his Dad, he got quite emotional discussing him. He's so damn charming - just like Obama.

Unfortunately, only something like 700,000 people watched it.

Progressives don't like Beto any longer.

Beto O'Rourke Challenged on Fossil Fuel Donations

Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, John Iadarola, and Francesca Fiorentini discuss Beto O'Rourke's plan to address climate change on The Young Turks

They aren't progressives, R296, they're BernieBros - and Beto handled the 2 Bernie plants at the Town Hall very well. They're freaking out because Ro Khanna who is Bernie's co-chair (but a close friend of Beto's) has formally co-sponsored the Medicare for America bill (which Beto supports) and which is the competition to Bernie's loopy Medicare for all plan.

The fossil fuel complaints were pushed by David Sirota, Bernie staffer, back when he was pretending to be an independent journalist. All Beto's donations in oil and gas came from individuals who work in the industry. 350,000 Texans work for oil and gas and some of them are Democrats.

Beto founded the No PAC Caucus and wrote the bill with Ro Khanna. He stopped taking any corporate, lobbyist and PAC money in 2013. Bernie took PAC money till 2016. Bernie also took oil and gas money and of course gun lobbyist money.

I agnostic on Beto. He's broadly underwhelming in every category but attractiveness.

But I often find myself defending him on twitter because the attacks about the fossil fuel donations are completely dishonest

There's the documentary HBO made during the Texas Senate campaign which comes out on HBO next Tuesday. It got rave reviews at SXSW and won the audience prize. Be interesting to see if it gets attacked now that Beto's the whipping boy for the MSM, GOP and BernieBros.

R290 it means they want a paycheck for as long as Beto has money. He’s over.

R293 Biden’s using TelePrompTers on the campaign trail. Grandpa’s gonna need one during the debates.

R300 none of Obama's people have gone to work for Biden, Pete or Kamala. Says a lot.

I think we are at the point where staff hires are less informative than poll results.

Beto was on Nicole Wallace Friday. I couldn’t watch him. I’m just not interested in his campaign.

He had a great interview with Nicolle. She outright attacked the media that has been trashing Beto to try to bolster Pete's chances. Beto refused to criticize the media or Pete and the saturation coverage he receives.

He's on Face the Nation tomorrow so he's upping his cable news presence.

Pete meanwhile was asked yesterday why he was running for President. He said because I'd be a very good President and I can win. Somebody's a narcissist....

Beto on the Impeachment train

Beto distinguished himself from the pack by producing a comprehensive immigration reform plan. He is the only candidate that has tackled immigration as a centerpiece of his campaign. The other candidate that might tackle immigration head on is Kamala, but that's probably down the line as she is trying to court black voters in the Southeast.

He really has balls of steel knowing the Dem party is trying to win over the racist vote of the upper/Midwestern states. In other words Pennsylvania, Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

He might be white on paper, but Beto is a true Hispanic candidate. He's more Mexican than Castro for Pete sake! : 0

btw, who's the cute twink bottom that is always following Beto round?

That's Chris Evans. I assume he's gay. He's cute. Wish he'd shave that goatee through.

Gov. Jared Polis of Colorado-the only gay Governor now - was teasing Beto today about the goofy story of a pothead in Austin who broke into somebody's house and stole a ....popsicle. Mugshot: hot guy.

Jared Polis (@jaredpolis) "My friend @BetoORourke is such a wholesome, all American guy that even the criminal who impersonated working for his campaign only stole a popsicle"

LOL!

Beto’s campaign is out of steam.

A Popsicle? Damn! he is hot.

Beto's campaign is just building up steam while Pete's runs out.

It's a long game, the attention will shift back and forth.

Beto last night in San Franciso at the CA Dem's conference got mobbed - Betomania's alive and well in California.

Then Beto can run for President of California.

R308, it's probably Chris Evans his communication director. Did you see the documentary on HBO about the Texas race? He's on there a lot.

Chris was with Beto in San Francisco today. He's gorgeous. He shaved the horrible beard off. I can't figure out if he's really short. Beto's so damn tall, it's hard to judge other people's heights when they're standing next to him.

R315 Hello again, Chasten.

Chris is gay. There was a livestream of a Town Hall of Beto's and it was Chris' birthday and a guy brought out a birthday cake, everybody sang Happy Birthday to Chris and the boyfriend kissed him to raucous cheers. Boyfriend was cute too.

R318 I’m not Chasten. But Chasten has a better shot at the Presidency than Beto.

Chasten, Pete said this today. Can you translate? Everybody's taking the piss on twitter. You should defend your husband.

"There is no such thing as an honest politics that revolves around the word 'again.'" - @PeteButtigieg #CADem2019

Beto is huge in California. He really is one of the best orators. He absolutely kills it on stage which bodes well for the upcoming debates.

The national polls are definitely ignoring the grassroots support for Kamala, Beto, and Pete in California. I would go as far as saying [bold]those three are probably the real frontrunners in the Golden State[/bold]. If the polls weren't so tilted to favor Sanders and Biden, which DL has done a great job of deconstructing polls showing how information field companies can arrange a poll in order to favor certain candidates, popular support in California would show different results.

I honestly don't believe polls anymore after 2018. Who are they polling? I've never been polled in my life. There seems to be a common complaint that pollsters mainly get elderly people as they're the only ones who bother to answer unknown numbers on landlines.

make that after 2016...

Beto will win California! He's coming back strong now--if only the polls weren't all skewed towards the popular candidates they would show that. Beto is back and better than ever!

Beto was exceptional at the convention. I can't wait for the debate where we could have Eric Swalwell, Beto O'Rourke, and Pete in the same debate.

On twitter there's a poll on who is the hottest between Beto, Swalwell, Cory and Julian Castro. Beto's winning bigly.

It's now a given that Beto can never win. He even ruined his chances in the veepstakes by running.

Giggle. Beto's the only candidate who can beat Trump now that it's becoming increasingly obvious Uncle Joe's gone goofy (or goofier than before). Yesterday at the Atlanta DNC meeting it was more flagrant than ever when Biden spoke before Beto. Beto got a standing ovation from the African American audience - Joe didn't.

None of the others can flip purple or red states.

Beto's currently polling at 2%. Competing with Cory and way behind Uncle Joe, Bernie, Kamala and Mayor Pete.

'Man, I'm just born to be in it.'

Texas Democratic Poll today: Beto's leading with 27% over Biden with 24%. Interestingly, Beto has the greatest support among black and Latino Texans. Castro polls at 2% and Kamala at 8%.

Impressive. He might win his home state if Biden doesn't pull a rabbit out of the hat.

[quote]Beto's currently polling at 2%

Beto and Pete are polling 5%

Beto, Warren, and Harris are now polling above Trump nationally.

If Beto could win Texas, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania can just go fuck themselves right off the face of the earth.

Sadly, in the same Texas poll Mayor Pete is again @ 0% with black Texans.

In contrast Latinos now favor Pete Buttigieg over Harris and Castro. Mayor Pete is #5 behind only O'Rourke, Biden,Sanders, and Warren. It's just too bad he didn't make a go at the Southwest much earlier.

Pete Buttegieg has zero chance of winning the primary because he is never going to get any black supporters and that is mandatory to win. He's just a distraction for well-educated, white, voters currently, who would be much better off consolidating their support behind Beto. It's O'Rourke/Harris time.

It's just outstanding to me how he cannot get over 0% with black people. I'm sorry but that is just wrong. Even Warren is barely making a dent.

Why focus on red Texas? They'll vote Trump in the general no matter who he's up against.

because Texas is a battleground state in 2020 R339.

At least it's a battleground state if there is a Texan in the race.

Trump cannot win without Texas - too many EC votes. The Texas GOP will go nuts if Beto's on the ticket and they have to spend 100s of millions trying to hold onto Texas - Texas is the most expensive media market state - worse than California. The GOP has been used to not having to invest a dime in Texas - Beto changed all that.

The DNC spends way too much time obsessing about the Rust Belt - it's the Sunbelt - Texas and Arizona - that are going to save the Democrats. And for that you need a candidate who appeals to Hispanics and Beto is the strongest candidate.

The boys both together

[quote]because Texas is a battleground state in 2020

Says who? That's like calling California a "battleground". Beto failed to win the Senate against the universally loathed Ted Cruz in Texas. Why would they vote for him in the general? No one believes Texas can flip. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Michigan, on the other hand, can be realistically won back. And Trump can't win without a couple of those. The DNC won't sink money into a state they're likely to lose.

Ted Cruz is not universally loathed in Texas. He is more popular than Trump though. And as Beto was 'beaten' (if he was - the Texas Civil Rights Project is claiming 290,000 were not counted by Texas' corrupt Secretary of State who, thanks to all the Democrats who got elected to the Texas legislature riding Beto's coattails, has now lost his job) by 210,000 votes. Presidential year turnout is always higher than mid-terms though Beto got mid-term vote totals up by 150,%, youth vote up by 500%.

And I'll tell you a secret: Texans are Texans first of all. If Beto is the nominee running against the Yankee Trump - he'll beat him. Texans look after their own. The carpetbagger Cruz affected the phoniest Texas accent ever to campaign - an accent he doesn't actually have in real life. He wore cowboy boots everywhere, pretending he was a Good Old Boy. Trump can't do that.

[quote] In covering presidential politics, there are moments when you have to choose between the polls and what you see with your own eyes. After following O’Rourke for most of two days, I am going with my instincts: The solid, attentive crowds of more than a hundred that he attracted for Friday town meetings in smaller southern Iowa towns like Ottumwa and Knoxville don’t seem like a short-lived mirage to me. Nearly eight months before the opening-gun caucuses, his presidential campaign just doesn’t feel like a futile gesture by an also-ran who instead should be running for the Senate from Texas.

I like Beto but he is not making inroads in Iowa ...yet. I think he is a tireless campaigner and a good one but if he doesn't start making up ground I would be concerned as Susan Collins.

PS at R346 I see impressive VPL!

R346, The New Republic is a cesspool of Bernie incels? And since when is going to University of Iowa a second rate gig? Assholes.

The New Republic is run by Bernie ex-staffers who come to Bernie's defense every time he gets in trouble like excusing Bernie's sympathy towards Sandinistas or hacking Hillary Clinton's campaign in 2015.

Whatever, R349. If that's the case then it should be even more impressive that one of them thinks that Beto is running a substantive campaign.

R343 Beto: “You can be my VP but you will need to buy a new wardrobe.”

Pete and Beto 2020

Beto's college girlfriend wrote about their affair. Unfortunately she doesn't discuss details we would be interested in.

That Ex is an idiot. She forgot to include the most important Beto attributes like dick size, girth, cut or uncut.

Beto is from Southern Texas so he's probably uncut.

Wow, r353. Some men really do grow into their looks in middle age. I can honestly say that I would never have looked twice at young Beto. Not just unattractive, but the off-putting kind, to me.

The girlfriend knows that if she'd sat on the story longer, people would care even less.

Beto came out with his plan to defend LGBTQ rights today.

Beto needs to prove his LGB loyalty by pounding my ass first.

Beto's new Father's Day video has me all verklempt.

The New Yorker had an article on Beto's days as a punk rocker. Some people on twitter started attacking Beto (he gets trolled by the GOP) and Cedric Zavala his bandmate in Mars Volta came to his defense with an obscenity laced series of tweets. Then some former bandmate of theirs chimed in to bitch that Cedric and Beto spent more time competing on how many women they could fuck than they did playing.

Young guys in a band having sex? The horror!!

Does the Beto Troll still post about Beto, or has he lately been as absent as Beto's grasp of policy?

Maybe the Beto Trolls decided it was pointless to post here among the brainwashed Pete Bros.