British Royal Family Gossip: Part 32

Mia gets ice cream EVERY DAY.

Mia and Savannah Phillips running around at Gatcombe Horse Trials.

Best chums.

If the ice cream can't do the trick, Anne is just the one to cool down Sassy Savannah.

Andrew at a Hindu Temple in Bahrain.

Lots of photos of Charles and Camilla checking out the vintage cars in Havana, Cuba.

Charles visits an organic farm.

Giles Coren who was confirming William's affair has links to Me Gain and Soho House, so he's not an impartial source of informatino.

Charles and Camilla in Cuba.

An old film of King George VI and his family having a singalong.

New solo engagement announced for Harry.

Two Elizabeths, Two Queens - One Consort and the other a Sovereign.

Sometimes, She IS amused.

Meghan - Before and After.

This guy, from Lipstick Alley:

"I see that Giles Coren is the one who tweet confirmed the Will and Rose rumors it-if that's a real tweet-I would tend to lean to it being true. Giles Coren is an ass but he is super well connected. (Side note loved his The Supersizers series) hes also a racist shit starter. He has a troll account where he would threaten people working for UK papers

The Times Drops Paywall In Solidarity With Giles Coren, Critic Accused of Racist Review

I think hes lost alot of connection and want to start some shit to gain some attention/credibility.

I dont buy that Rose's husband would allow her to embarrass him like that and not divorce her. Hes the one with the money and title after all"

Giles Coren wouldn't KNOW. He's shit stirring but he's gonna end up getting blow back, as will Harry. It's one thing to fight with his brother, but to trash Kate who has done nothing but be a sister to him is beyond.

R15 - Rose's husband is The Marquess of Cholmondeley who is also Lord Great Chamberlain for Queen Elizabeth. No bloody way do I believe that she would insult the present Queen and the future Queen (Kate) in such a fashion as to sleep with William. The story is bs.

He's also David Rocksavage who had a very interesting reputation before his marriage to his very pregnant wife when he was aged 49. Amazingly they had twins (IVF anyone?).

Lainey gossip will always trash Will and Kate. It was her that ran the blind about Kate not giving Meghan a ride. I just assume everything she says about Kate or Will is from Meghan/Harry and a lie. She's also a moron. When Will went to Africa last year, Lainey did a column about how Will just can't seem to quit Jecca Craig (his rumored former girlfriend/childhood friend) as she was famously from Africa. She just about flat out said his trip to Africa was actually to rendevous with her. Then she was informed that Jecca actually lived and has been living in London pursuing an advanced degree and had a small kid and a toddler to boot. So she needs more ammo, although I imagine she'd be perfectly happy saying Will is banging both Rose and Jecca, even if she didn't know Jecca wasn't in Africa. She probably never heard of Rose until this week. I don't think she has Hwood sources either. She's just an established bullshitter who usually picks the crazy side of an issue and has a deep seated resentment against anybody she thinks is "too good."

Has Giles deleted his tweet? A little hit and run? Just read that.

And meanwhile though Harry goes alone to Africa frequently and for vague reasons, Lainey never mentions Chelsey.

I just read an article on the Hanbury sisters that was dated 2010. At no point did it describe her as a rumored ex of Prince William. It was about how they came from a brewing company family while mom had a fashion label, how they were "unconventional" and liked to hang with their parents' friends as much as their own, that the whole family would hang at Boujis club together, and both girls liked to attach themselves to "seasoned" suitors.

"Tim and Emma (Rose and Marina Hanbury's mom and dad) are socially agile, counting the writer Taki Theodoracopulos as one of their oldest friends, and co-hosting an annual cricket match with Zac Goldsmith, which Imran Khan, Prince William, Hugh Grant and Quintessentially founder Ben Elliot have all attended. Nor do they have any qualms about their daughters' preferences for older men. Rose and Marina have had their fair share of younger admirers - Lord Fred Windsor, John Lycett-Green and even Ned Lambton's son Fred, who dated Rose in her teens, are just some of the names linked with the girls - but in recent years both have displayed a predilection for the more seasoned suitor. When she was 20 years old, before she started seeing David Rocksavage, Rose dated Lord John Somerset, then 39; and Marina caused something of a stir a few years ago when she became attached to Robin Hurlstone, then 45, an Old Etonian antiques dealer and former flame of Joan Collins. 'I think Marina and Robin make a wonderful couple. In fact, I was semiinstrumental in introducing them,' Marina's mother Emma said at the time. 'It's not about what age they are, it's about who they are - and by that I mean whether the person is right for their daughters,' says a friend of the family. 'All they want is for their daughters to be happy.'"

Yet thanks to the Harkles it has become a fact that she's an ex of William's at the least, when in nothing I've ever read about him was she ever among either the established or rumored names of his exes.

Another day, another audience for The Queen. If you click the link, you can see the crowds who came to see the Queen in India.

Sophie Countess of Wessex performs simulated cataract surgery. One of the more interesting public functions for a royal.

Princess Anne in her younger day.

Anne and her first husband Mark Phillips at the time of their engagement.

Photos of Anne in all of her finery through the years.

That Rose lady is a chinless scarecrow. Kate is much prettier and has much more energy about her. No Wills cheated on her with that "bohemian" muppet who is stuck with the creepy older guy.

Some of the arguments against the Rose and Will affair could just as easily have been applied to the Charles and Camilla story. "She would never go against the current and the future queen" or "She's not as pretty as his wife" are all comments that were made when Cam and Charles were just a rumour.

I'm not saying the WillRose rumour is true, just that people cheat for a whole bloody lot of reasons so looks and prestige are no defence against it.

R27 - The difference: Camilla's husband DID NOT work for the Crown as Lord Chamberlain.

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Kate looks well fed besides that Rose Hanbury . What a thin and scrawny looking woman that is . Kate is much more prettiger and handsome than that model wife .

R28 He does not work for the crown. He's Lord Great Chamberlain. It's an unpaid ceremonial title. How exactly do you think that affects whether his wife will cheat on him or not?

Diana cheated on Charles and he was the Prince of Wales. It's been reputed that Phillip cheated on Liz. A title doesn't protect one from infidelity.

Don't get why Kate is criticized for being too thin. Yes she IS thin but not unhealthily so because she has great muscle tone. Muscle tone is what separates thin yet fit people from anorexia sufferers. Recently treated a 17 year-old former high school football player with anorexia, his frame was thin but my god the muscle-wasting on him was sad.

Anne really was lovely. She still has a twinkle in her eye and kept her figure. No drama there.

Love the video at R29.

Those guys are happy for him.

Anne would have made a fantastic Queen.

R31 - Diana cheated on Charles AFTER Charles cheated on Diana. Then she out did him in the cheating department.

Diana not only outdid in the cheating, she was criminal about it phone stalking her boyfriends' wives. BPD anyone? She was a classic case.

r36 Do you have some proof of that?

I can see a little resemblance between Kate and her mother Carole in this photograph.

The Middletons attended church with the Cholmondeleys at one time.

R15 Giles Coren is widely disliked by many people in Britain that's for sure. He writes some pretty nasty stuff, that he knows will generate both ill will.. and lots of clicks. He'd love nothing better than to shit stir among the Royals. Conversely his sister, the television presenter, writer and world champion poker player, Victoria Coren- Mitchell is pretty much universally loved in the UK. link below is Huff Post, on one of Giles crueler efforts- about his own son...

No surprise, more on Giles Coren from Lipstick Alley (quoting an article on the Soho Amsterdam bash attended by Harry, Meghan and ... Giles Coren).

"elkirk said: ↑ has he delete that tweet. Giles Coren is a good friend of Meghan he was in Amsterdam with Meghan and Harry last year parting at Soho House.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry party with A-listers in Amsterdam all weekend Columnist Giles Coren was far less private about the elite party than the famous guests he was in the company of.

He took to Instagram to describe the event as ‘a 48 hour party of awesomeness.’

We can’t imagine the Queen will be too pleased with the Prince Harry’s reputation for partying continuing into married life but at least the couple are in it together…

So these rumors are coming from Meghan's camp you all."

Whether he's paid or not, David Marquess of Cholmondeley is Great Lord Chamberlain. I'm not buying that is wife would risk their status in society for a little roll in the hay with William. The Cambridges are a tight family and I don't think Will would want to jeopardize that fact. He knows first hand what adultery can do to a family.

The Great Lord Chamberlain with the Queen's Crown.

I t doesn’t surprise me at all that all this is coming from MeAgain .

I read that Diana was quite ok with the most famous of Charles' "other" mistress, Lady Kanga (Dale Tryon). That Australian. Another gregarious, earthy, busty blonde. Diana would wear Kanga's designs. I don't know if Charles had Kanga when Camilla wasn't available or what. Kanga was married, too.

At some point, suffering from a chronic illness and also an alcoholic, Dale jumped from a first floor window at the Farm Place, an alcoholic and drug rehab clinic. Broke her back. Supposedly was desperately trying to chase down Prince Charles while in her wheelchair at the polo. I saw a youtube bio of her and at some point they interviewed her daughter. Despite the various tragedies of her life she seems to have been a piece of work herself as her daughter was just sort of shaking her head grim, ascribes nothing but selfish motives to her mother in everything, and not much even base line empathy comes out.

Giles Coren is an absolute cunt. He’s infamous for, among other things, getting shitty drunk and trying to start fights with other men on Twitter. I mean physical fights, ‘meet me anywhere you like and I’ll kick your ass.’ Then he sobers up and deletes everything.

Was just going to post the same thing R47. I couldn't finish R41's article. Coren is evil, sleazy, stupid. Of course he has a famous, or at least well known and successful dad (now deceased). That's how these careless, entitled dicks are bred.

R36 I wasn't debating who cheated first, whether the cheating was justified, or who was the more prolific in the Charles v Diana disaster. I'll take your word for it.

I was responding to the poster upthread who seemed to be of the view that Cholmondeley's wife wouldn't dare cheat on him because he has the hereditary title of Lord Great Chamberlain. The rumours of a WillRose romance may be horseshit (who knows) but if Cholmondeley's position is what one is using to arrive at that conclusion, the argument is scrawnier than either Rose or Kate.

Men and women with better titles than David have had a partner stray (ie Prince of Wales, Princess Royal, Queen). Aristocracy does not confer immunity from human foibles.

I thought Coren's tweet was a sarcastic response to Hadley Freeman who asked connected Brits to "spell it all out" for a "gauche clueless American" as to whether there was an affair. It sounded like he was trying to mock the American for being dumb enough to ask on Twitter "Yes, of course there's an affair! Even Jews know about it!"

Will is probably capable of cheating. I don't know if is really is nor not. However, he is beyond discrete and petty. Whoever participated in a dalliance(that's ALL IT WOULD EVER BE!) would we well aware of the rules: discretion or HELL TO PAY!

I do think this is a smear by MM. Sooooo obvious! Tho' heaven knows why she thinks trying to take down the Cambridge Court in a PR battle will somehow turn her into the Ton's Sweetheart. Such short sighted battle plans will never win the war.

If this is one of Meghan's machinations and she's using Coren to tattle on the Cambridges, she had better be careful. I"d never heard of the man until today, but he sounds like a piece of work who will turn on Meghan if it suits him. If he likes to shit stir, she's defecating an awful lot. And if he's a racist, well...

How do you know all this if you've never heard of him until today?

Oh Mary

Giles Coren didn't write the story. He just made a flippant comment on Twitter.

The reporter is Sophia Money-Coutts. She is daughter of the 9th Baron Latymer. She is formerly of Tatler and currently of the Daily Telegraph. Sophia is toff-enough and connected-enough to add credibility. Insider aristo news is her schtick it wouldn't do for a royal insider to be iced out by blatantly lying about the Cambridges. Since the story is quite coded, the question is what does it all mean? The falling out between Rose and Kate could have been about any number of things. What is certain is that Kate isn't above icing out a bitch if she thinks she's crossed the line; with her man, over a dinner party, or whatever else unemployed toffs do with their time.

^Is this a real question? Because I've been reading this thread and the last one...

Have you?

I saw a document the Giles coren did about why his book failed years ago and he met with hanif kureshi and boy was hanif unimpressed and refused to indulge him. That's all I know about him.

The fact that this story and rumor comes out at this time and makes will and Kate look bad, to me it points directly towards Harry and meghan doing it. Do I think all of them are capable of cheating? Yes but this story is suspect. I hope the Williams nasty side comes out and Harry and meghan have no idea what they will be on the royal receiving end. My dream scenario would be that he sues kaiser and lainey.

For the person who said why would meghan leak something like this. She just wants to hurt will and Kate and get her cult of fans to go full negative on the Cambridges.

Can we agree that forthcoming mentions of the Marquis give his hereditary office as Lord Great Chamberlain please? Great Lord Chamberlain is wrong way round.

R55 Most of the posters on this thread use logic that I would not. I do not have enough evidence to decide what the fight seems to be about. Your methods may differ.

If you find my question too silly for anything but a bitchy answer you can ignore it and move along.

So what if Giles Coren is a “cunt”. Cunts can tell the truth, you know. And Victoria Coren is not “universally beloved” (as is that has any relevance either). She’s “meh”.

“It can’t be true because Giles Coren is a cunt” is about the stupidest piece of logic imaginable.

As is....Rose would have too much respect for HM to fuck William! What? When have considerations like that ever stopped anyone having an affair. How silly.

If William was going to fuck around on Kate, this Rose woman is exactly the type he’d probably choose...married too, so hopefully willing to be discreet. Doesn’t matter if she’s got a face like a horse...she’s a different hole to poke, which is all that he’d care about.

No idea whether any of it is true, but the reasons why it can’t be on this thread are utterly ludicrous.

The woman said it isn't true, that's what I'm going by.

[quote] I do not have enough evidence to decide what the fight seems to be about. Your methods may differ.

Where have I decided what the "fight" is about? Are you familiar with the use of conditional clauses?

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MeGain's battle plans are always short sighted. It's as if she is scrabbling around with those claw-like hands, trying to keep a grip on her status, by trashing the Cambridges through leaks. And it is timely, she will be hard pushed do do it when she is under control of the Buckingham Palace offices. On a completely different note. Pa Middleton is quite a silver fox, isn't he?

R60 What woman?

The Middletons are generally very attractive. Pippa looks a little over tanned or something, but the women are very fit.

Photos of Charles and Camilla in Cuba. I think Camilla dress is quite nice.

R61 Oh no, have I used poor grammar in a post on a gossip forum? Zut alors.

Charles and his Golden Lab at Balmoral.

Those two old bats at R66 surely deserve each other. Cam + Charles forever.

Pippa's face is unfortunate, sorry I'm with the late, cunty Karl Lagerfeld on this one. It's interesting that Michael Middleton's family is much more posh or successful than Carol's side. Is this unusual for you Brits, or do the classes tend to mix and intermarry instead of going outside of the designated circle?

[[R59]]If William was going to fuck around on Kate, this Rose woman is exactly the type he’d probably choose...married too, so hopefully willing to be discreet.

Exactly. The logic used on this thread is based on false premises. Aristos bed hopping is an old trope - played for laughs in movies, plays and TV. I don't believe the Queen nor the "grey men" care about it, in fact rumor is the grey men also participate. (Michael Fawcett, cough, cough.)

This story regarding Will/Rose didn't come Harry. It's too intelligent and piercing. Ask who benefits?

-- Harry doesn't, the minute Meghan does makes the next breach in protocol the tabloids will start howling. It makes no difference in his status in the BRF. Meghan is looking for $$$ like some other posters stated.

-- Kate doesn't, unless this is serious & of long-standing, she would prefer to keep it under wraps.

-- However, the Middletons are experiencing financial issues with their company. They have something really valuable - a customer list of the who's who of the British upper middle class. Recently, selling that list has become strictly regulated. Moreover, children party supply is much more competitive with Amazon, discount stores, etc. They need to retool and need angel investors. So - that means -- William, Pippa's husband's family and Uncle Gary.

My conclusion - Carole - she's brainy, she's tough. It would be a two-fer for her: get rid of turnip tosh that has the chance of becoming serious and letting Will know - pony up, I got the goods.

So....on Mumsnet (I know, I know...but AIBU is a guilty pleasure) a couple of months ago there was a thread about Kate. Someone said that they had it on very good authority that an affair scandal was threatening to break over the summer and almost did. Somehow the disaster was averted and Kate was soldiering on regardless.

Now...anonymous sources who have things “on good authority” are best ignored, as this probably should be. However, when the stuff about Kate freezing out a “friend” that most people had never heard of came out with the DM making very heavy weather out of it...and the “friend” had big bouncing jugs and was married to a much older man...I thought.....hmmmm.

Just thought I’d stick that on here because, well....hmmm.

Meh.

There have been a few pics of Kate in the last few months where she looks angry, mean, and as if she's at the end of her rope. Her husband having an affair with a woman in her circle would explain why.

It's finally happening! Theresa May is resigning. It's only a matter of time before Harry is Prime Minister!

R71 Just confirming - Carole Middleton leaked a possibly invented story about her son-in-law possibly shagging another woman to save her failing business because...not sure why...because she has a list of upper middle class people who have made purchases with her company, even though it is targeted at a much more low brow demographic? And this list will become more valuable if the William shagging Rose story gets out? And she’s so ruthless as a mother that she would publically humiliate her daughter to implement this cunning plan?

Oh yes, we’ll that makes perfect sense!

Lainey will take ANY story and any woman to say Will is cheating. And the timing of this couldn't be more obvious. When Will went to Africa she said it was obviously to see his presumed old girlfriend Jecca Craig. Lainey was ignorant of the fact that Jecca has been living in London, not Africa, for several years. So Lainey's ass got served with that one. Undeterred she decided to put on blast the original vague rumor about a rift between Kate and Rose. And of course if Will were cheating, Kate would consult with William and ask him to diplomatically phase Rose out, as the original bogus story of the rift went. But never mind the details. This thing is a joke. During Markle's maternity leave she and her surrogates will do nothing but alternately claim various members of the royal family are white knighting for her and Harry while trying to trash the Cambridges and humiliate Kate as much as she can. Expect stories of spoiled, horribly mannered children or anxious children or unmanageable children or robotic, lifeless children next. It's coming.

I'd love for Harry to be prime minister. The only way we'll ever get rid of him.

The Middletons are not experiencing financial issues, that's more of the mud Markle is slinging.

The crap PR is trying to engineer twofers: Oh noes Carol $$ Oh NOES Will will will

The question here is not whether William cheated--most Windsor men do--but who flapped their gums about the cheating? If it was Meghan, that's a declaration of war. I don't know how she expects to win with so little ammunition, but Ms. Tungsten didn't get this far by being reasonable.

Tell Me-gain the war is long over.

They most certainly are, r78...

Harry would be a hilarious PM. He’s less articulate than even Dubya was.

But Harry has heart. He's the hero England needs to solve the Brexit impasse.

I didn't get very far in the Inquisitr groundbreaking story, just to the part where they asserted that Middleton was an "air hostess," which is untrue. It's garbage from garbage PR.

Once Harry is PM he’s going to make Duchess Meghan Foreign Secretary - remember her language skills! Or possibly Chancellor of the Exchequer as she’s so good with other peoples’ money.

Then once they’ve built a tunnel between 10 Downing Street and 11 Downing Street they can install Harry’s secret gay lover the Marquess of Cholmondeley (obvs gay because IVF) and William’s mistress the Marquess’s beard and then...

My head hurts.

R8 - can you elaborate on those ties and where you found them?

What a mess. William cheating on Kate. Haz with Bean. The old BRF guard getting on in years, circling the drain. Charles as King (enough said) Monarchy going to hell in a hand basket. I hope Kate has her own affairs!

Do those of you who rant about how the Middletons are experiencing financial ruin know anything about business and people who run businesses? Most businesses even the most successful ones, have a shelf life. The bigger ones have no problem transitioning for sake of survival, I'm talking about corporations. However, the vast majority of small business owners, yes even successful ones, eventually face the end of a good run. That's when they pack it in, call it a great run while keeping whatever fortune they've managed to accrue. Shutting down a business does not necessarily equate with failure in many cases. Was the business able to sustain wonderful lifestyle, growing family, and a stash for retirement? If yes then it's a success regardless of whether it shuts down due to circumstances out of control.

Meghan's foreign language skills consist of knowing how to say "I can give a great blow job" in 5 different languages.

Letting a couple people go does not equate to shutting a business down.

Hear, hear R89.

But if Party Pieces isn’t in trouble then why did Carole Middleton sell the story about William shagging the wife of the Marquess of Cholmondeley (aka obvs gay because of younger wife with big tits and once made a gay-themed flick)?

I seriously doubt the Middletons are facing financial "ruin". Their business may be facing challenging times as are many businesses in the UK. Even if the business founders, it's unlikely the Middletons' personal wealth will be dramatically affected.

R80 spot on.

Why do people insist that the Middleton’s are forever briefing the press. To what end?

The crap PR company's game is very weak.

[[R89]] Exactly, most small business have a shelf life. The economic winds agst niche establishments like Party Pieces are tough right now. Carole may want to sail into the wind here. She needs investors who can help her retool and reposition it.

The customer list is very valuable. It's been built since the 1980s when giving elaborate birthday parties became a big deal for the up-and-coming set. Of course, now they are even more elaborate, hardly the party bags Carole was hawking in the late 80s / early 90s.

I remember an article about the girls participating in school events and how the Middleton parents were always there - Middletons en masse - they were called. It's not a stretch to imagine that Carole was hawking her wares back then. Another interesting detail. The girls wore uniforms and everyone had their winter wear in coat rooms. Most students just had their name scribbled on their jumpers, etc. Pippa and Kate had hand-sewn professionally embroidered labels. Even before William showed up - the Middletons were selling an image.

It's low brow stuff today, but back then it was very convenient to receive all your party paraphernalia in a big box to decorate your little tike's 3rd birthday.

Regarding who leaked - well, not Harry, not Will, probably not Kate. But if it became something on-going, then Kate would want it to end. So, Carole may not be throwing her daughter under the bus.

What the hell is Fergie wearing at R62? Ack! What's that supposed to be? A long bolero jacket?

The simple face is, this puts attention on the Cambridges in the most negative of ways and william becomes the baddie and in turn it makes me gain and Harry look good as if they're the perfect couple. Seemingly forgetting Harry was apparent a big cheat also and his relationship with me gain had overlapping.

It's a shame that in a family where both parents cheated the sons turned out to be the same.

No, the question IS that there is no evidence William cheated and there is also no question at all who tried to spread the rumor - it's the Harkles. SO you got it all backwards R80.

And also no, nobody thinks ending a business after 30 years of a good run is scandalous - unless it's all bullshit because the Harkles just want to get as much negative crap in the media about Kate, Will and the Cambridge side as possible.

The issue here is Markle is trying to smear. It's not about people overreacting to Rumor Mongering 101. She's as predictable as rain. As I posted up above, the kids are next. As the Harkles like to go low, they'll talk about how George has a very very close friendship with a best male friend - not that there's anything wrong with that! But it will be stoking the jokes about him.

R84 yes we do need a real job for hero Harry to take. A real man's sort of job, as he's always rather insinuated he'd prefer to take on. We have been told he's almost an idiot savant of elite helicopters. Can barely read, but knows the instrument panel of a Cobra inside and out and has instincts second to none (I don't know if it's called a Cobra but it is something intensely alpha). If only JFK Jr. had been so blessed. He, too, struggled with the three R's, but nature did not compensate by gifting him with a genius for instrument panels of flying machines, and so he perished. Harry should get himself a helicopter and fly around with Megs. But not over London or where there's stuff on the ground. In the wide open spaces. Perhaps on a flight path to somewhere very remote in Botswana.

Has anyone noticed how Camilla's foundation garments in the Cuba pictures have been quite good? She must be reading DL!

Calm down, R101. Your husband isn't fucking the neighbor's big-titted wife: William is.

R101 So, according to you, Meghan...already clearly disliked by the Cambridges...is leaking scandalous info to the press in spite of knowing that if they did the same to her (and they have far more contacts & command more loyalty than she) she’d be finished.

This notion that everything negative that appears in the press about any royal or their peripherals is coming from Markle is such tedious claptrap.

It’s as stupid as “Oh, this person on Twitter said something nice about Meghan...must be her in disguise”.

Fuck’s sake.

Well, no one is talking about Skankarella’s sex tape any more, are they?

The very fact that Lainey is making a show of the scandal couldn't more clearly blinker it's coming from MEghan's camp. Geez folks, even thick as two short planks Harry would figure this one out.

haha, but why give Hazdim a pass? HazBean are a single unit we're told, and I believe it.

The sex tape story was going to have a limited shelf life anyway, unless something else came out. No clip, no corroboration and the British tabloids wouldn't dare touch it. Now if the identity of the Canadian woman is revealed and she's known to have associated with Markle, that would be something. One thing I'm unclear about is why the "sex tape fixer" couldn't provide the Canadian woman's phone number to BILD so they could dig into it further. Or maybe that was explained and I missed it.

Why do so many find it impossible to believe William would cheat on Kate? He did so throughout their 10-year relationship. She wanted the ring and the title...she's not about to let a little infidelity get in the way of her goals. I don't think she cares if he screws around, to be honest. If she did, she wouldn't have tolerated it during their relationship. She only cares if it becomes public knowledge.

If this marriage comes to an end, William will be the one to initiate the divorce.

Lainey is a grade-A cunt. Making a big deal about a so-called affair that stemmed from two women rumored to be falling out. Meanwhile her classy master Meghan has real shit out there, embarrassing photos most recently Sharon Stone moment at women's conference. Meghan has documented history of being a skanky fame whore, but Lainey making like Cambridges are in trouble to deflect from M's troubles.

William will never divorce Kate. Why would he? She's the perfect, biddable, fecund Royal wife, with nice legs and great hair. She doesn't give a shit if he cheats as long as he keeps up appearances and she gets access to the good jewels. She's exactly what Charles was looking for when he married Diana, only less aristocratic.

No one was talking about the sex tape in the UK anyway.

And Lainey picked sides a long time ago. She didn’t originate the story, so her pushing it is irrelevant to whether or not Markle is behind it.

Markle makes sure stories get into the press that praise her. I am unconvinced that she’s started dropping stuff to make others look bad, she knows they could just do the same to her (and they have more ammo) plus - Harry. No matter what feud there is between the brothers now, they’ve grown up both hating the press for good reason...they both think it caused the death of their mother. Now, we’re expected to believe that Harry’s willing to betray his brother with the single nost disloyal way imaginable?

“Jeez, it’s so obvious” is not evidence.

I doubt Markle is behind this.

“.....in the single most disloyal way imaginable”

William spends a lot of time in New York because he has a ladyfriend in suburban Connecticut. This other story is a smokescreen. Apparently he and Meghan ran around in the same circles for quite a while before she latched onto Harry. That's one of the reasons why Kate hates her-- she's a reminder of William's wandering ways.

No one has entertained the idea that maybe it was Waity who cheated- with Cholmondeley. Look at pics of P. Louis and pics of Cholmondeley. Same mouth. This whole time I’ve been so puzzled at how he looks so radically different than the other two kids. Plus, she has had a complete attitude change since he was born. Yes, he’s old- but he could give her a posh life like Pippa’s- all the money and vacays in the world- and no pesky “work”.

I think it's Harry who leaked the story. He's lashing out because he knows he's dug himself a hole but inexplicably blames William. He's basically throwing a tantrum.

Just wait--if this Cholmondeley story gains any more traction, Kate is going to get pregnant again. Best distraction in the world.

Will is catting around with Me-gain is the real story. He likes 'em very short and built like a tank in the torso. And it's her grocery skills that keep every Tom Dick and Harry in the yard.

[[R110]] If this marriage comes to an end, William will be the one to initiate the divorce.

Absolutely. If the Cambridges divorce it will be William's choice. Unlike Diana, who held out for Charles to divorce her, Kate will do as she's told and may be required to do the filing. Everyone on these threads seems to be out for Sparkles and her dimwit husband. What if all the "strum un drang" is about the Harkles is a distraction from the W/K marriage.

Sophia Money-Cutts wrote a Times articles featuring that photo of W/K/R looking like something is going on. (Photos can just be instant - Rose was holding a burp, Kate smiled knowingly, Will was thinking hear we go again.) Then she included cryptic tweets.

Something is going on with the Cambridges and the Middletons that is "not on brand" shall we say.

Oh this is priceless! Someone upthread is posting what are clearly satirical theories based on some of the random unhinged postings in this thread and a couple of deranged fraus have taken these as gospel, picked up the ball and are running with it.

Amazing!

Diana didn’t want the divorce, R120.

Other than that, I agree with you. There is something subtext about these Kate/Rose stories. They are saying something without saying it.

Otherwise, who cares about Kate’s “friendship” with a woman hardly anyone’s ever heard of?

Maybe that Mumsnet woman was right. The press found out about an affair back in the summer...were going to run it but then IPSO/lawyers managed to prevent publication, so they (the press) are doing the next best thing.

All speculative.

And the most insane of all keeps adding additional square brackets to create a hyperlink - it’s practically a signature.

Right, the brackets guy is the top shill.

Can someone please point out how this Kate/Rose story has any legs whatsover? And don't even with Giles Coren. The man is a twit without loyalty and would claim HM is a "yacht girl" if the mood suited him.

But how do the hand sewn labels on Kate’s winter coat at Marlborough impact the financial performance of her parents’ business 25 years later? Help me here, I’m not as well versed in financial and commercial matters as some of you.

R77 R101 and R102 are also in contention for that insane frau award.

All at once there are stories on Party Pieces struggling. Maybe Prince William withdrew his support after his wifey cheated. The party tat business could not fund the Middleton’s mansion and lifestyle. William was doing that. And Uncle Gary’s strange tweet about how he can help make the business profitable? Shouldn’t he have offered that advice YEARS ago?

They are breathless.

R116 don’t make stuff up. Lord Porchester is the father of Prince Louis.

Ok.can someone post the MM's Sharon Stone moment from the International Women's Day?

R125 The Rose v Kate story has legs because the major British papers have carried the story. It was first hinted in the DM by Eden then the Sun , The Telegraph, the DM and the Times carried various versions of the story in their Sunday editions. To outsiders, the story seems vague and much ado about nothing, but the fact that even the Times is carrying it seems to suggest that there is something being hinted at beyond "two friends had a falling out." Sophia Money-Coutts, the toff insider, who wrote the Times' version of the story said on Twitter that she has given as much information as it's safe for her to do.

Nobody here knows who leaked it and what it all means but that's what makes for good gossip. It is ripe for rampant speculation.

No, the DM has climbed down from the Rose v Kate story and I don't see anyone else covering it. It's just the MM Stans who are talking about this alleged affair.

That's right R133, but dont tell 132. He's all titillated.

Not really true, r133. Having been out of the loop re this thread, I googled Rose Hanbury and there’s stuff all over the place. But I think that it’s BS... the rags need stuff to sell, and the royals, for better or worse, are a prime subject.

It'd be a shame if William did have an affair, can't anyone have any decency these days? To the women's husband and especially his own wife and most importantly children. W and H grew up in a immoral world where both parents were careless in affairs. They think its the norm but I was hoping they'd see it the other way that it's hurtful and they don't want to be like that.

R133 The DM carried another story by a different columnist. That's not a climb down. That's stoking the fire while pretending to be onside. It's standard DM practice with all the royals.

The story being in the major newspapers is what has given it legs. It is beyond the faithful gossip mongers on DL, Celebitchy etc

[132] You summed up the Turnip Toff kerfuffle well.

R133 It’s not just the DM...that’s the point. Why would The Times & Telegraph be running such a seemingly non-story?

None of us can know what’s happened, if anything...but to me it’s clear that the press think something did.

Or maybe, R128, Party Pieces is slightly struggling in an unstable market, laid off a few staff & the press got wind of it and made a mountain out of a molehill. As usual.

I know it’s much more fun to pretend that royal correspondants do nothing all day but sit and wait for clandestine phonecalls from Harkle, WillKat & Randy - but it’s not actually what happens. They get leads and follow them.

r128 I think something is going on re Middletons and Cambridges; all is speculation and we may never know.

Really R139? I was just on the Fail UK site, and there were only 2 stories about Will -- he is going to NZ for the bombing memorial, and he advocated for his brother and sister in law so they could separate from the Cambridges. The Queen and Chaz resisted, but Will came through for the Sussexes. That's brotherly love for you.

R142 The story about William “defending” the Sussexes against the Queen (as if that would ever happen) was planted by Omid Scobie, Soho House mouthpiece and self-appointed royal expert.

He probably lurks on these pages picking up tips from overmedicated fraus.

What are you talking about, R142? I said it wasn’t just the DM running the Kate/Rose story - which it wasn’t. What does what the DM is currently running have to do with anything?

“Daily Fail”? You sound like that fucking annoying Australian bint on RG that nobody can stand.

R143 I bet Scabies was secretly thrilled hearing about the salad tossing video. So much in common with Markle now...the botox, the heavy make-up and now world-class arse-licking skills. Sisters from another mister, those two.

R141 I agree. The birthday party for Carole Middleton at Pippa’s (end of January) was - strange. Waity was papped going in alone looking upset. Paparazzi was in her face, all around her. No protection from them at all. As many family events as she attends for Will- and he can’t even go to his MIL birthday. The Middleton’s do this when they are pissed at Will. When she was pregnant with George and got papped going in the hospital ( and was admitted) - then it comes out he was off on a party weekend with his friends.

I think anyone who underestimates Meghan Markle's capacity for vicious retaliation is a fool. She's been engaged in a PR war since a year before the engagement. That said, I'm perfectly willing to consider also the fact that the tabloids have figured out that any outrageous story about the Sussex/Cambridges is worth a shot.

The Turnip Toff set, as they're being called, are way too experienced and aware of hierarchy to leak this kind of thing; it just isn't "done" in their circles, and the risks of social backlash later on as the Cambridges go further up the ladder are just not worth it.

But for the angry Meghan Markle, with her mouthpieces Scobie and Lainey and Anderson and Mulroney and Clooney - a leak of this kind, whether false or true, would be entirely in character.

The irony is, because no one would put anything like this past her, even if she didn't do it, many will assume she did it, even without proof.

The timing, just as the sex tape shit leaked, is too good.

If Markle did do it, she'll pay later on. Frankly, I don't think she cares any longer - she knows she lost the long game when the Queen and Charles told the Sussexes to fuck off with ideas of their own court, PR, and "brand", not to mention the shabby home base outside of London.

She probably figures she only has to play at this for another four years or so, at this point, why plan on sticking around for Catherine, Princess of Wales and the Queen Catherine?

I’m the person a few threads ago who said that I heard through a third party that the Cambridge’s were going through a rough patch. This seems to bear it to. Tbh, I have not heard anything more since... but the person who told me definitely had a connection, albeit third hand.

Well, hello R146 - it’s the twit who thinks that the plural of “Middleton” is “Middleton’s”.

R146 you are a fucking fantasist, which I can live with, but the “‘s” as plural is unforgivable. Please learn how to spell.

^ bear it out...

R150 while you’re correcting yourself you should also point out that the plural of “Cambridge” isn’t “Cambridge’s”.

It just too much of a coincidence that all these leaks re. the Middletons/Cambridges started when Meghan came into the picture. I'm starting to think that she's the cat among the pigeons.

Touché, r151. Also, who cares...

R149 Um, I do know the difference. I was typing fast and not paying attention. It happens, ASSHOLE.

So the articles are saying Rose and Kate had a falling out because Rose was assuming the queen bee role in their Norfolk country set and Kate was over it. So where in any of those articles is there a hint William had an affair of some sort with Rose, because there is not a single suggestion anywhere to that end. And if you say it was implied, then you are no different than those brainless fools who love Trump and overlook his gaffes with "well, when he said (this), what he was really meaning was (this)."

Yes of course, R154 - fast typing adds nonsensical apostrophes.

Actually, R144, “Daily Fail” has been in use by the cognoscenti for a lot longer than Royal Dish has been around.

Which should show you how stupid people look when they cite something appearing in the Fail as gospel. It’s not, it’s most likely an invention of a Fail “journalist” back at their desk after a couple of pints at lunch.

So the countdown has begun to pushing out Baby Soho -- so exciting! I imagine all the family will be gathering around for this joyous occasion. WOW mini Me-gain time everybody!!

It's also very telling that the leaks started at the end of the Mueller report. Could the Royals be putting out a discreet signal that they want Mueller to investigate their leaks? I think that answer is YES, [[[[[152]]] reply.

R152 where are you

R159 I love you!

What does Mueller have to do with the Royal Family?

Actually, R157, hardly anyone uses the term “Daily Fail” anymore because it’s so unoriginal and, frankly, childish. That irritating cunt of a Markle stan is one of the few who still does. Only, of course, when the stories are negative...when they’re positive you...I mean...Aussie bint laps it all up.

In any event, your comment to me had nothing to do with anything I actually said so until you get your reading comorehension skills up to scratch you should, perhaps, avoid calling other people “stupid”.

And...again, dear...the stories about Kate and Rose did not just appear in the Daily Mail.

Did you catch it this time, idiot?

R147 “I think anyone who underestimates Meghan Markle's capacity for vicious retaliation is a fool”. Except no one has.

But it’s such a relief that you are “willing to consider” other points of view (for once), you arrogant tosser.

R164 - Dear me, a bit of hyperbole and you're hysterical. Take your mends and lie down. And fuck off, as well.

*meds

Such hysteria and name-calling over a bunch of people none of you know. SMH.

R163 “Any more”, two words, not one. Bless!

R166 I thought it was spelled med’s

[quote] Such hysteria and name-calling over a bunch of people none of you know. SMH.

We could recognize a merching grifter narc from a mile away. That is our special talent, [[[167]].

Whoever is spamming with ordinary royal links and pics - how is any of that gossip?

R167 - Because we actually know all those film and televsion stars, musicians, politicians, and figure skaters we also diss here on DL.

R169 - No: meds.

R147 I think Harry needs to pay. I doubt Markle will last four years. There's desperation all over everything she's doing starting with her 11 month pregnancy or whatever month she will be in when she finally actually explodes and Baby Sohobebe comes hurtling out like a torpedo.

Looking back, Harry has been salting stories with William slams for years. He's resentful, and he's disloyal, and probably has been for a long time. Although she might have loved him I don't think Chelsey wanted to shackle herself to a drug addled man child for life and of course Cressida never intended to go beyond two years. He's the one I'm watching. Meghan will just keep doing what she's doing. Harry will continue to believe he's a beloved hero. I HOPE they stay together at least four years - it's very entertaining watching a duo like this desperately spin that they're winning when they're losing. In the process it's very gratifying that they're tarnishing the Clooneys and the Carters.

The Daily Mail has righted the ship with a new piece out by the inimitable Piers Morgan talking about what a hard-nosed social climber Meghan is.

'I hope Harry knows what he's doing': Piers Morgan accuses Meghan Markle of being a 'fake social climber' and claims she's just using him to get to the top

Piers Morgan has branded Meghan Markle a 'hard-nosed social climber' in a fiery interview on Australia's Today Show.

The MailOnline columnist and editor-at-large castigated the Duchess of Sussex in the interview with Deborah Knight which aired on Thursday morning.

He said Meghan was fake and has used people throughout her life to get to where she is now.

Deborah asked 'is Meghan really fake and a piece of work as I know you've said before?'

'You know what I'm sorry to have to say I'm afraid I think she is,' Piers replied.

'Although some people really like her and are falling for this act I'm afraid I see a bit of hard-nosed actress.

'She's been using people on her way up to what is now, of course, the top, which is marrying into the royal family.' "

So what do we think, DLers? Did Harry know what he was doing?

Not that I disagree with Morgan, but how many interviews and opinion and DM opinion pieces is he going to milk out of Markle and the Sussex marriage?

[quote] how many interviews and opinion and DM opinion pieces is he going to milk out of Markle and the Sussex marriage?

And not one about curtsy protocol. No, he is no professional like WE ARE.

R176 - LOL. Why should Morgan be any different from the rest of the crowd?

Piers is in media so he's going to do his thing. Better question you should be asking is why Meghan was dumb enough to cultivate "friendship" with him knowing how these media types operate. Answer is of course Meghan's hubris overrides her game, she was playing with bigger names when she met Piers, then she upped her game with Harry not knowing her climbing left behind fresh footprints.

Efforts to divert attention toward a nonexistent Cambridge marriage scandal just as that pesky sex tape rumor broke has the putrid scent of “Sunshine Sachs” all over it. That firm is the very definition of lowest common denominator PR.

In my mind, it just confirms that there is indeed a sex tape featuring MeMeMeMEMeMeMe out there.

I wonder if Harry has any awareness of how much public goodwill he’s pissed away by entering into marriage with this evil climber. If he’s as dim as people say, probably not.

I think we can safely assume lots of affairs go on in that louche aristocratic set, they simply don't talk about it to outsiders. If this rumor were true, it's possible Kate (or her camp) put her foot down and leaked it herself - would surprise me a little, but it's not unthinkable. She probably could be ruthless in defending her marriage and family. And she's not inherently one of them.

Otherwise, who would have access to such knowledge, then break the rule of omertà and blab, and with a motive to do so? Hmmmm?

R179 - "Answer is of course Meghan's hubris overrides her game"

That hubris came into play in fall 2016 with the threats to the UK press, and have continued to this very day.

R181 - "Otherwise, who would have access to such knowledge, then break the rule of omertà . . "

It's not personal, it's business.

Jesus Christ, for people who claim that Meghan inserts herself into everything, some of YOU sure love to insert her in everything. Meghan responsible for outing William’s “affair”? Is she to blame for what’s going on with Party Pieces as well? Russian election interference?

There is a lot to snark on with the Sussexes, but god, some of you make it tedious.

I like the picture posts. They spark memories and gossip. And they class up the joint.

R183 This is why Charles is acting benign. He knows one day Will is going to settle all the scores.

Carole Middleton engineered the Brexit vote because if the borders closed to European goods then it would increase the market share for Party Pieces and increase the odds that Prince Wiliam would have to shag British women instead of Polish cleaning ladies and French countesses, allowing Carole to leak the stories to Andrew Morton, smuggled cleverly by Pippa who appeared to be on a run through Chelsea but who was in fact carrying Carole's coded messages about William's pan-European sexcapades inside specially painted bottles that only looked like Duchy Original Organic Vaginal Lubricant. Additionally, Carole will save the business by allowing Madeleine McCann out of the basement where she's kept the child to make pinatas all these years because Carole knows Kate McCann will hold several make good children's birthday parties for Madeleine once she's home, and obviously Kate is going to have to all out to make up for being such a neglectful mother. R71 told me.

R184 - I'd discount everything you mentioned but helping the Russians with election interference.

r186 [quote]This is why Charles is acting benign. He knows one day Will is going to settle all the scores. [/quote]

Charles is sitting pretty right now. Abt 2 yrs ago there was speculation that the major commonwealth countries would not tolerate him as King - the British Monarch is still head of state in many places - and would be used by others who don't want Charles as King to engineer a skip over to Will.

But with all the garbage being thrown at both sons, Charles is quietly fanning himself in Havana.

R187, you win best post of the week!

Charles wants another female BRF member who's more hated than Camilla. Such a wonderful husband he is.

HM's former press spokesman, Dickie Arbiter, is giving interviews.

The award for "Comments most designed to ignite the Sussexes fans and critics" goes to...

[quote] According to bookmakers Ladbrokes, April 21 to 24 are the most likely days Meghan will give birth, all at 4/1.

[quotes] Should Meghan and Harry’s baby be born on April 21, they would share a birthday with the Queen.

Snipe away, bitches.

Correction

[quote] Should Meghan and Harry’s baby be born on April 21, they would share a birthday with the Queen.

R184 She gives people ammo for shit like this, because Lainey who she leaks to is now promoting this William being unfaithful story. So of course people are going to gossip that Meghan has something to do with it because her biggest supporters are out there spewing this shit.

That's an odd story to be running now. It's not new. Is it newly relevant?

14 prime ministers, wow her Majesty is indeed an institution.

Those pics of Charles in that unflattering suit and Camilla's practically see through blue dress in Barbados were so unroyal like.I could see her knickers,Queen Mary is rolling in her grave.

Prince Charles needs a better tailor and a better consort.Peeping her sagging bra and massive underwear is not becoming for royalty ever.

R115 Tell us more about William and his “ladyfriend” in Connecticut! That sounds quite likely. If he’s spending a lot of time in New York lately (never been reported any time, anywhere by anyone) then it has to be true.

Is his ladyfriend Doria? Connecticut and California are both in the USA so that pretty much confirms it.

OMG! Spill, R115!

I finally understand how annoying it is to be William and Kate. The thing with Rose could be about anything even about something that seems uncompletely unlikely but people will always jump to the obvious and opportunists like Lainey will pretend like they definitely know when they are just guessing too.

Could you imagine if this was all over something petty like a dress or over some offhand remark that landed the wrong way? Or even if it's actually the other way round and Kate and Rose had something going on? I know unlikely but I'm just using it as an example. I still think the most obvious answer is probably what is going on but sometimes I hate following BRF gossip because there will never be enough leaks that we'll actually know for sure we can only make good guesses.

Or maybe, R198, it’s a complete fabrication. You must have seen on this site someone will mention something (e.g. Harry is bisexual). It could simply be wish fulfillment. It often is.

Then that misinformation gets quoted by someone else as fact.

Somebody further on mentions having seen this a number of times and hey presto - someone’s fantasy becomes a Datalounge “fact”.

The whole Cambridges and Cholmondeleys story started at the Daily Mail. It was subsequently shut down by - the Daily Mail.

What does that tell you? It tells me that it’s bullshit. But of course you’ll find people on Datalounge who swear that it’s true, based on absolutely zero evidence.

R199 That's true it could be completely invented out of thin air. I just assumed with all the smoke that there was something to it but you never know with the British tabloids.

Oh stop it R181, for the 19th time, there IS no such knowledge. It's bullshit trashing by a time on her hands Meghan and her equally contemptible, jealous little pisher of a husband.

Er, R199....not quite. The DM ran the story, then it was picked up by every other tabloid and a couple of broadsheets including The Telegraph & The Times, who added their own details.

Not sure why you’ve decided the DM “shut the story down”. Once a story makes it to their site, it doesn’t stay on there forever. Did they print a retraction? No.

I have no idea whether any of it’s true - it could indeed be pure invention. But your minimising of how far the story reached to suit your own narrative (“It’s bullshit”) is as annoying as the fantasy islanders spinning for their biased agendas.

OR the "thing with Rose" is a nonexistent thing made up by Harry and his lovely bride because the battle lines have been drawn and the Hazbeans are losing and losing big.

Stop pretending you have knowledge that you don’t, R201. You have no fucking idea what’s going on either.

Oh ffs, if the story were real they would have it up for days on end from every angle. Huge fail by Harkle crap PR is what it is.

R184 nothing is going on with party pieces. I should call you R184_tedious because that's been your go to remark in this thread and in all the "Dangling Tendrils" threads you'd spam and gray out.

Meghan and Harry are dumping every piece of bullshit and trash they can invent to slur the Cambridges. The kids will be next, as I've said before. If you tell four lies there is no rule that says, well it's FOUR lies. ONE of them must be true!! No, it's four lies, or ten lies. Meghan is preparing for whatever she's going to do to attempt to upstage Kate's upcoming engagement, and in the meantime she and her bottom feeder PR minions are throwing shit out there to try and drag Kate and William down. Stuff they make up.

I wonder where the tabs got their stories on the royals before Markle showed up...because apparently absolutely everything negative they ever print that doesn’t directly involve her comes from her these days.

R205 Doesn’t work like that. They don’t keep stories up “for days”.

Your stupid argument makes no sense any way. Are you saying the DM KNOWS the story is crap? Did Markle say...”Psst...this isn’t true but...”?

Logic is not your strong suit, is it? Now fuck off with your conspuracy theory bullshit. You’re boring.

Got any evidence, R206?

No. Didn’t think so.

Please go back to your trailer and feed those 52 cats of yours.

It's a miserable stunted life that shills for assholes.

[quote] I finally understand how annoying it is to be William and Kate.

Sure you do R198

R210 You sure do think highly of yourself.

The Will and Kate gossip has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do w/Sparkles and her dimwit husband. Pay attention. It's too clever, and incisive a cut. Not their modus opernandi at all. They aren't that smart.

This story is making its way from the Turnip toffs, to their fringes, to the fringes of the fringe. It has made it's way into the press, although in coded way. We'll see if it dies - i.e. the BRF pay offs whomever is pushing the story. (Carole would like more money). Or, if it has legs. So far, Will's stories about his dalliances have been killed before they bloomed. This one may be different. I have a posh mate in London and will report when I get a hold of him.

There seems to be there there. We just don't know what.

R28 [quote] The difference: Camilla's husband DID NOT work for the Crown as Lord Chamberlain

But her husband DID work for the Queen. He was the Colonel Commanding the Household Cavalry and Silver Stick in Waiting to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

You might want to get your facts straight

R292 The Times and The Telegraph reported that the Daily Mail had published the “story”. They didn’t report the rumour as fact.

The Daily Mail did try to shut the story down when they subsequently published a story from their columnist Richard Kay, speculating that the whole thing was just a rumour. Without mentioning that the rumour first entered the public domain via - The Daily Mail!

Even for the Mail this was some significant disingenuousness! They floated a non-story, were obviously pressured to remove it and then published Kay’s piece questioning their own “story”. That’s why I’m calling it as bullshit.

Kate hates William's friends. The only people she likes are her useless brother and sister. Ever since they got married she's refused to go to his friend's weddings. William either doesn't go, or he goes alone

And let's not forget the time William chose to go to the wedding of his ex-girlfriend's (jecca craig) wedding instead of going to his own cousin's wedding (Peter Phillips wedding to Savannah what ever)

Kate and William have had problems for a long time. She accepts what ever he does. What else can she do? She knew that going into the marriage. I could see them just announcing one day out of the blue (not any time soon) that they are divorcing. They aren't the type to spill their dirty laundry in public (like Diana and Charles). But more likely I see them staying together and living separate lives.

Richard Kay was Diana's favorite journalist. It's probably William who got Richard to try and squash this. But now, William is going to owe the Daily Mail

Diana, Charles and Camilla all had their own personal journalists who would write slanted stories defending them and trashing the others. Diana had Richard Kay, Camilla still has Arthur Edward (the sun) and Penny Junor. Charles had david dimpleby (however the fuck he spells it) and Penny Junor. Penny's written many, many, many books. Before Diana died all the books told how insane she was because all she ever did was imagine that Charles was having an affair with Mrs parker bowles and how it was absolutely false and "charles and Mrs parker bowles were simply nothing other than good friends" and to suggest that they are anything else is a lie

Rose has big boobies.

[quote] I think we can safely assume lots of affairs go on in that louche aristocratic set, they simply don't talk about it to outsiders. If this rumor were true, it's possible Kate (or her camp) put her foot down and leaked it herself - would surprise me a little, but it's not unthinkable. She probably could be ruthless in defending her marriage and family. And she's not inherently one of them

That went through my mind too. Everyone thinks Kate is a wimp, but she learned every single one of Diana's tricks, but she also learned from each and every one of Diana's mistakes. When William dumped her and went to a club and screamed to the entire room, "I"m Free", she set out her own media campaign to get him back and it WORKED. She knew the press would pit her and Meghan between each other and Kate had her own plans. Her performance at Prince Louis's christening was so OBVIOUS. The weird, constant stupid looking grin on her face while she looked at the baby the whole entire time was really laying it on thick. She is certainly a better actress than Meghan will or could ever hope to be

R214 The Times story didn't just report the what the DM said. It had other sources. here are reports on the ground in Norfolk that Kate is upset at Rose and that things will eventually settle down.

[quote] Reports over the weekend -- which it must be said are completely without corroboration -- were that Kate has asked for Rose to be "phased out" of her and William's social life for reasons not known. ("Local WhatsApp groups are buzzing with it," trills a source on the ground.") For if Gloucestershire is the brash arriviste county, full of Range Rovers and Londoners in clean wellington boots flocking to boutique hotels for the weekend, Norfolk has traditionally been the quieter, smarter cousin. "No scandals here, please, we're above all that" is the general vibe among Norfolk grandees.

[quote] While the rumours about Kate and Rose's spat ricochet around the WhatsApp groups of the chattering classes, the general belief is that the situation will return to normal (for Norfolk) soon enough. Show over. The aristocracy there have been an insular, close-knit bunch for centuries. A little light rivalry isn't going to change that.

Takeaways from the article: Norfolk aristo life is inbred and and boring as fuck if you don't enjoy shooting.

If people want it I can post the entire Times story since it's behind a paywall.

The baby is sleeping and she's got the rictus grin on and is staring at the baby like she's never seen one before. She certainly knows how to put on a performance. I was shocked that no one else detected her fake bullshit and was acting to the crowds/media. She seemed high

I wouldn't put it past her to have spilled the story about Meghan supposedly making Kate cry (are we supposed to believe she's that wimpy?) during a dress fitting. That story seemed like bullshit

Don't you bitches fuck with me about the typos in R219. I can't be arsed.

[quote] Party Pieces is slightly struggling in an unstable market, laid off a few staff & the press got wind of it and made a mountain out of a molehill. As usual

Maybe not. Party Pieces is struggling enough for Carol to go out and give press interviews late last year/earlier this year. It's struggling enough for them to lay off people. The Middleton's have never missed a chance to merch their company whenever something was happening with their famous daughter. I'm shocked they were able to earn so much money from that company. I hand it to them, they earned every penny, the hard way - selling cheap, tacky looking shit that's made in China and sells for only pennies to just a few dollars at the most

The Telegraph story just says who is part of the Cambridges' circle, but they consider the story significant enough to put it above their masthead and in larger type. (That's so crazy)

The Guardian doesn't have a story but it reports that others do.

It's in the big three broadsheets, (Times, Guardian, Telegraph) plus the biggest tabloids (DM and the Sun). This was widely reported.

You certainly seem well informed R215 ( apart from thinking that Peter Phillips married his own daughter). How are you aware of Kate’s innermost thoughts? You must be very very close friends, right?

The Middleton’s what, R222? I’m like totally curious!

R215 Kate hates William’s friend’s what? Which friend? This sounds rather serious!

Which friend’s weddings won’t she go to? Who is this much-married friend?

How awful about William not going to Jecca Craig’s wedding’s wedding!

How did Peter Phillips marry his own daughter? Those royals sure are crazy! Especially as she hadn’t been born at the time. Blimey!!!!

And you can see Kate and William divorcing. But only for two sentences, when they reconcile and live separate lives.

Congrats R215 - in a thread of utter stupidity you’ve elevated stupidity to an art form.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the Rose story came from Kate, either directly or through someone close to her, as a means of putting an end to an affair by exposing it. The fact that all of Kate's friends, godmothers to her children, come from her past should tell you something. She doesn't seem to have made any friends from William's circle in the 15+ years she's been around. That she stays away from their weddings is very telling. And unlike Harry, William is quite happy to remain in his circle and is not hankering for new celebrity friends, so Kate has no chance of pulling him away as MM has done with Harry.

It's entirely plausible that William has affairs up in Norfolk. There's nothing do to up there except drinking, shooting and shagging. But Kate is not joining in on any of that.

Diana was the people’s cum dumpster.

R222 And where’s the evidence of Carol “merching” their company? Seriously...where? And giving a couple of interviews as the mother of a future queen and grandmother of a future king is evidence of their “business failing”...how?

Why are there so many fucking idiots on this thread? You’re (nearly) all utterly lost in this invented universe where the entire BRF and their peripherals are engaging in Machiavellian-type shenanigans day in, day out.

This is the real world, not some fucking Dynasty/Dallas hybrid.

Please, please...for the sake of us who actually like the odd fact with our gossip (or at least gossip that makes logical sense) can you not take your fat frau arses back to Tumblr & Royal Gossip? Why do you need to be here at all? You have no idea how cretinous and obsessed you all sound, do you?

How do you pronounce toffs and where does the expression come from?

R230 Rhymes with cough. Not sure where it comes from...it’s a very old word going back to (at least) the Victorians.

I'm going to share something that's very difficult to share. It's something I learned about my feelings in a prior thread, and hesitated to share. I don't much care for the way Meghan dresses, or her protocol blunders. But she has a natural way in dealing with the public. She shakes hands, with a beaming smile, and the public seems to really enjoy meeting with her. That's a real talent, in itself. I'm a bit ashamed for being so harsh on her.

How did Anne go from drop dead gorgeous to my grandmother in the span of 5 to 7 years?

R232 In what way is smiling & trotting out a trite, predictable phrase a “talent”?

It’s called superficial charm. All narcissists have it. When the most important thing in your universe is what people think of you, you are the loveliest person imaginable. At first.

A little hesitancy and shyness would be normal under Markle’s circumstances. Striding out all beams, bells and whistles with apparent ease is an indication of her arrogance, actually.

But you’re entitled to admire that. I don’t.

I don't like MM. I think she is a user, a phony, and a con artist. I think she is a new low for the BRF and I look forward to the day when she makes her exit.

But I will give her credit for certain things: she has an appealing and pretty face, and a lovely smile. She conveys warmth and charm. I admire her courage in taking on this public role of joining the BRF when she has such a messy background and a number of skeletons in her cupboard. I admire her nerves in facing the public after reading the onslaught of ridicule and contempt directed at her over the last 18 months. I pity her undergoing all this whilst she is pregnant.

Toffs refers to toffy-nosed, the aristos.

William and Harry are both kind of disappointing. Peter Phillips, on the other hand, is hot and exudes confidence. Imagine if he were the heir. Lucky Autumn.

This thread is beyond dull. Create a MM one (good luck) and let it be that playground. I miss Mary's "borrowing" ways. I miss intelligent discussion about other BRF members, though that's been at least a year since. Also tedious is the "Keep Calm and Carry On" Frau shit intro each fucking time there is a new thread. Can we get some wit in here?

Go back to Celebitchy! We are doing important work here, [[238]].

Im disappointed that Wills is a cheating cad. I was hoping Kate and Wills had real chemistry. I recognize that its hard to stay in love and faithful as time goes on..but to think their marriage is a lie. It makes me think that at least MM &Haz have a more sincere insincere , copsetic relationship.

Sunshine Sachs!

From November 2018. How interesting.

More Markle hearsay.Mixed with Kate lies. I do believe Carol Middleton merches,her company is doing bad an her only asset that pays is her daughter will be Queen.Please discuss Sausage fingers and his wife.I find them way more interesting.As she struggles to fit into a role of Queen Consort amongst Kate,Meghan and the boys.

Toffs... it's very dull.

My former flat mate in London has it on excellent source that the Cambridges are collaborating with Kim Jong-Un to launch nuclear testing on all “Party Pieces” competitors next month. This rumor has been kept quiet in royal circles, but now friends of friends of Jeff Bezos among the turnip toff set have warned him to go underground.

It’s true!

R233 Looks like the windsor genes catch up to every member eventually and she always had it rough with her wiry hair anyway.

R229 Seems like DL has been invaded since Royal dish closed their thread on Meghan and Harry.

Wow R242, lots of good info in there about the embarrassing world of PR shills. They are basically grown up brown nosers.

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A company marketing its products??

COLOR ME SHOCKED!

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And as for mixing up Peter Phillips' wife's name (autumn) with his daughter's name (savannah) , does it really matter? I can't be bothered to learn one trashy name from the other

A company marketing its products?? COLOR ME SHOCKED!

Cashing in is what they do. Read the comments on the articles. The Queen's subjects weren't really impressed

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Those super tight jeans aren’t really in style any more, are they? I wish Kate would stop wearing them. They’re a little obscene.

She needs an eye lift. I agree, the skinny jeans look terrible. She looks haggard and underweight. Wills cheating is literally eating away at her.

Beth is on her way to Somerset.

Kate and Beth out on the same day. Is Kate upstaging HM? How dare her have an event on the same day. She could have visited those scouts any day.

OR

HM is showing how much she loves and supports the DoC by coordinating her events with Kate's. They're a double act.

Ever since she was a little girl, Liz has always loved the horses.

Paul Nicholls' yard, Somerset.

SomersetLive says hundreds braved the foggy weather to welcome HM to Somerset.

She will visit 4 sites today. Her last visit was in 2012.

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R202 - Actually, the DM did somewhat hedge its bets with the William-Marchioness-Kate affair; if you read it to the end, it has something sounding like a disclaimer, and it trotted out Richard Kay a couple of days later announcing that the whole thing had been a rumour and that, basically, the story had no legs. That IS the DM's way of issuing a retraction.

The story emerging right on the heels of Meghan's BILD sex tape story smells to high Heaven. It did its job: it deflected attention from the sex tape story and replaced it with a shadowy insubstantial Cambridge sex story. It also got the DM big royal headlines at a time when none of the UK press dared to go where the really big story was.

Sorry, but to me this smells of throwing the Cambridges under the bus to save the BRF and particularly the Sussexes from a much bigger scandal, JUST as the adorable little Sussex baby is about to make its entrance.

All of which says to me that that sex tape story might have had more legs than initially supposed and MI6 or BRF specialists are on the trail of that tape now.

I support ye olde "Cui bono?" approach: who benefits?

Who benfitted from the Cambridge-Chomondeley story?

The Sussexes.

R262 Totally believable. Also, someone needs to look into the books of all these Toffs. How is this Turnip Duke of Cholmodonalay (or however you spell it) worth 112mill GBP ?

He has a couple of ruinous shitholes and god knows how many overheads. Where are these moneyed families stashing their cash? Turnip CholomondWhatever also used to be a “film producer” back in the day and we all know that’s dirty laundering 101.

"Alluded to" is not proof. A close friend who is a doctor has been jeering for years at the public's gullibility in thinking that every time the media publishes a study citing "links" it constitutes absolute proof or causality.

Uncle Gary doesn't present as a paragon of virtue, for sure, and he may have helped his sister and her family out, but assuming that ipso facto Party Pieces wasn't a success (the business was publicly valued at one point) is a specious link.

But here is some coverage of the Middleton's finances from 2011, the year of Kate's and William's wedding:

"By the year 2000, a year before Kate went up to St Andrews and first met Prince William, the mail-order firm was on the internet, employed ten people and was handling more than 1,000 orders a week.

Today, thanks largely to an astonishing bounce brought about first by the royal romance and then the engagement announcement, business appears to be booming and Party Pieces employs 30 staff working out of two large converted farmhouses near the family’s home in rural Berkshire."

At this time, although as a private corporation the Middletons were not required to open their books, City analysts put the Middleton's worth at £30 million, most of it vested in the business.

Yes, this is a gossip site, but it does help to bring a bit of caveat emptor to much of what's put up.

The Middletons worked hard. More power to them for, as Mrs Bennett would say, the enviable placement of their daughters in a cruel hard world.

That's okay. Many people knew about Markle's sex tapeS and grocery activity, but now everyone does. We can wait.

So what if there is a sex tape? It will blow over just as Tampongate, the toe sucking scandal, the Epstein scandal, etc.

R265 Nice spin dear. Want to stick your tongue a little further up?

Look at you, falling for the “official story.” HAHAHA.

R263 BILD did not write a sex tape story. Multiple English, Dutch and German sites reported that porn tycoon Kevin Blatt said a Canadian woman on the phone tried to sell him a Meghan sex tape a year ago. Some Dutch and German newspapers also had it in their print editions. The media that carried the story all had the same source.

The Tumblr gang spun that into the idea that BILD had a interviewed someone about the sex tape story and that Harry was seen at the BILD offices trying to negotiate with them to keep the story out of the press.

The tape may or may not be real. All we have so far is Kevin Blatt's word. I would guess media organizations have contacted Mr Blatt. If the tape still exists and it's in North America I can only imagine the kind of money being offered. The DM and AMI would cream themselves if they got their hands on any such tape.

I don't think it exists but the tabloids/scandal rags will definitely hunt for it.

R267 - But the toe-sucking scandal didn't blow over: it finished off Fergie's and Andy's marriage for good, made a divorce imperative (they were only separated at the time), and got her exiled from the family for many years - Philip was reputed to refuse to be in a room with her. The scandal itself is now just historic, but it defined Fergie's public image and her relationship with the BRF for decades. She was at Balmoral with the two little girls the Sunday morning it broke: within an hour, she was packed up and headed back to London with Bea and Yuge - I remember the look on her face on the photos of her leaving.

Publicly accessible images of The Queen's grandson's wife and the next monarch's son giving a blow job to some man for money will finish off Meghan Markle in the same way. There's no "so what" about it. If the BRF know that that tape is out there and could be released, they'll move heaven and earth to stop it.

Modernisation has its limits.

Photos of Kate having fun with the Scouts today.

R269 - I will bet you a month's pension that even if the DM, The SUN, and The Mirror could get their hands on that tape (and they have the resources to buy it at almost any price up to seven figures) they would put it quietly in the lower left hand corner of the desk and lock the drawer. They didn't even dare print the story that it might exist - which tells you something about devastating the impact of this story, if it were proved to have legs, would be.

They don't mind printing interviews with people who thinks she's a social climbing golddigger and spending the taxpayers' money like water, but releasing a tape of a senior member of the royal family giving sex for money is, as they say, a bridge too far.

The possible impact is removing a member of the royal family from the succession (not to mention a juicy source of clickbait for years to come). It has too much potential for lasting damage for them to run with.

If they wouldn't touch the story as it moved across Europe, you can bet your arse they would never release images from the tape - although possessing the tape, if it exists, and letting the family know they have it, would give them an incredibly strong hand to play over the next ten years or so, especially where Meghan and her behaviour are concerned.

God, some of you cunts are thick.

Party products on a party products website that sells party products is “merching”? No, it’s not. That Party Pieces has seen a bump in sales since Kate married William is inevitable and not the fault of the Middletons. That’s what happens when a previously unknown company becomes known. That is not “cashing in”.

The DM frequently has columnists speaking independently & at odds with it’s stories. So no...Richard Kay’s sychophantic ramblings is not “the Mail’s version of a retraction”. They didn’t retract anything....but even if they had, the point still remains that the story had legs and sprinted to the broadsheets. Why?

And no...moving images of the wife of senior royal willingly being filmed with her tongue up some bloke’s arse would not “blow over”. Fergie’s toe-sucking did not blow over, neither did tampongate.

It’s such a fucking shame that refugees from Tumblr and the royal forums have congregated here. You’ve utterly ruined a decent djscussion with your nutjob conspiracy theories.

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R272 The global media have no silos. If the tape exists there are German, Dutch and American media orgs that would want it too. Melchiorre, Cooperman and Pecker over at AMI would pay a pretty penny for exclusive access. Not everyone is as deferential to the British Crown as the UK media.

^^^^^right here, yup.

Harry doesn't have very many patronages for the length of time he's been around.

Kate looks good in this color.

There are THREE scandals rocking the Royal Family according to The National Enquirer.

William represented the Queen at a medal ceremony.

That Enquirer Cover is LOL. Sad thing is that their stories tend to be more accurate than the MSM as of late.

R279, hah I definitely believe all of those stories, even though the NE sucks. It’s hard to imagine MM not dabbling in drugs as a Hollywood actress. It would be next to impossible to avoid them.

Something has to explain how unbelievably bad she has performed up 'til now. She was (at best) a mediocre actress, she failed as a wife, her clothing line went to shit, Tig didn't take off like she imagined; but... she can eat out a hairy man's ass like nobody's business which apparently compensates for all manner of shortcomings.

I doubt they will let the tape see light of day, even Kevin Blatt was afraid just having a partial copy would bring MI6, Interpol, the FBI, etc. to his doorstep. Still, he put his rep on the line by revealing its existence.

R273 Yes there are some fucking dumb cunts on here. Equating legitimate business selling merchandise to negative contextual meaning of "merching" is just icing on the fucking cake. Notwithstanding they can't see past their shit-smeared lenses that their idol Meghan is the one merching like a thirsty ho that she is.

Too many threads on MM and Harry. This thread is dominated with trash talk about them and now you bints have created a thread devoted to their living arrangements. What the fuck? And someone is always sneaking a post about them in the Continental royal thread too.

Sickening.

How Now Sugar Frau?

This poster cracks me up. A hugely hormonal postpartum mother adoringly gazes at her recently born child and it IS ALL AN ACT designed to out do Meghan in front of the crowds and media. Kate was so devious that her fake bullshit slipped under everyone's radar except this astute poster's finely tuned instrument. Don't you get it folks? She was maliciously using her newborn to play people. Either that or she was high!

[quote]She knew the press would pit her and Meghan between each other and Kate had her own plans. Her performance at Prince Louis's christening was so OBVIOUS. The weird, constant stupid looking grin on her face while she looked at the baby the whole entire time was really laying it on thick. She is certainly a better actress than Meghan will or could ever hope to be

[quote]The baby is sleeping and she's got the rictus grin on and is staring at the baby like she's never seen one before. She certainly knows how to put on a performance. I was shocked that no one else detected her fake bullshit and was acting to the crowds/media. She seemed high

I think that poster has serious mental health issues, that's why I didn't even respond. Sometimes you have to walk away from even looking at crazies.

If that affair rumor is true, Kate should pull a Jackie Kennedy, go to her father-in-law and demand millions to stay put.

Another shot of Frogmore Cottage I hadn't seen before. Do you see that gate marked private? The public had access up to that gate; and yes, that astonishingly close to the property.

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Welcome back R243 - I’ve missed you and your inability to string a couple of coherent sentences together! I’ve tried parsing your post a couple of times but it’s the usual word vomit that I’m sure makes sense when it’s swirling around your tiny head. But keep up not understanding the difference between “an” and “and” and your inability to hit the space bar at the start of each sentence. It’s your signature style - own it, you halfwit!

Also, if you google map Frogmore Cottage you will find the house butts right up against the public access road. So, will they block off that road entirely? Because otherwise the Sussexes will be in much more of a fishbowl than they ever would have been in Kensington.

I'm sure all those details have been worked out. WHEN IS THE MOVE IN?

R294 - they will move when MegAntoinette is finished changing her mind.

Meg is a truly weird combination of pretentious and cheap/tacky.

It’s hard to know how she will react to FroHo.

I almost suspect she won’t notice how substandard it is.

She was constantly posting photos of that hovel she lived in in Canada as if it were worthy of Architectural Digest. (“Look! I’m hot shit! I have a white sofa!”)

It's an upgrade for Meghan considering what she had (or didn't since she rented), she knows this but will always try to trade up for grander abode. By the time the 2nd child comes along, she'll be wailing about not enough room blah blah blah. But really it's just that there's not enough room for her ego.

Some of you mouth-breathers have latched onto “merching ” as your buzzword du jour and naturally have no idea what it means.

“Merching” is using a product or service and being seen to do so, most often on social media, where the product or service hasn’t been paid for, and receiving compensation for doing so. This compensation will either be direct payment, receiving the product or service for free (also known as being “comped” - there’s a new one for you all) or receiving something else in exchange, quite often publicity or a different product or service (also known as a “contra deal” - there’s another one for you.

Carole Middleton promoting her company isn’t “merching” - it’s promoting her company. That’s her job.

So I will be in England's fair and pleasant land in the fall and have a mind to stop by Windsor for a what-the-hell-why-not visit. I wonder if all those devilish details will have been sussed by then? Will the Sussexes even have moved in one wonders? How much of an easement will be established to keep the looky-loos and unwashed masses at bay?

I will return and report.

R71 The Middleton's party goods are "meh." There are tons of much better, whimsical, colorful, party goods made by UK sellers on Etsy.com

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Rose looks like Chelsea Clinton. They have the same ugly mouth with the fat roll underneath the lower lip. Rose makes hers worse by not filling in the entire lower lip with lip liner (just like Patsy Ramsy).

^^^^typo: Patsy Ramsey. Here's Rose and her ugly mouth...

Good lord, this Rose woman looks uglier facing front! This thing was a model?!! Talk about low standards or in this case no standards.

I’m reading “That Woman,” the book on the Duchess of Windsor, by Anne Sebba. Still so mind blowing, that abdication. Even though they kept busy as a married couple, imagine what it must have been like to always have that THING between them. But to all outward appearances, they seemed to make a go of it.

I wonder how the Duke of Windsor looks to the young Royals today. Like a disaster? Or like a romantic rebel who did a cool and courageous thing walking away from a life he didn’t want?

R128 Uncle Gary's business advice would probably be to include "party favors' like cocaine.

R299 Good for you, please do report. And snap up those Sussex souvenirs in the Castle gift shop while you can.

Rose looks a little wild, unlike the demure Kate.

Right R299, we'll look for your Trip Report.

I just read there are 32 people buried at Frogmore. There's 11 gravestones visible behind the Victoria & Albert mausoleum, and the dilapidated looking cottage is right by the access road.

If they don't actually move there where will they go? They're giving up the Cotswolds place which was apparently free in exchange for publicity for new builds sales in Great Tew, because they can't afford to buy it/staff it. It has been confirmed by stalwart royal journalists that they are homeless n London. But now MM's syncophants are putting out that there may be a delay, which to me equals dragging feet cause they don't want to go there.

Of greater interest to me is why MM's paid mouthpiece Omid Skobie did a twitter poll on how Ginger Jesus should be presented to the world. And there has suddenly been tweets and articles asserting Meghan should NOT show the baby right after birth.

This pregnancy has the stench of a scam all over it. Why can't they keep it simple like others who apparently use surrogates did? She had passed the 12 week mark in early October, per her own PR. If she pushes this back to May, it will be insane. And why has she been wearing a 9 month sized bump for three months?

Oh, I found Meghan and Harry's latest made-up leak that Prince William went to his father and the queen advocating that Meghan and Harry should get more budget for just themselves and their own pr hilarious. Apparently William recognizes that although he and Kate are popular in the U.K., Meghan and Harry are global superstars and a priceless asset, and if the BRF wants to keep them, they should pay. I myself would pay to see William's face when that little gambit came to his attention. It will probably go as well as Meghan's attempt to get Apartment #whatever in Kensington Palace.

R233 It's the starched hair --- Lady Capulet meets Gibson Girl.

[Blind Gossip] While everyone is focused on the dust up between this TV actress and her sister-in-law, there is something else going on you should know about!

Thus far, everyone has been assuming that it is the actress who is causing the drama. After all, she is the newcomer and she has also reportedly had trouble with some of the other people around her.

However… maybe it’s not entirely her fault.

You see, Sis has been in a bad mood lately. And it’s not just because of the actress.

Sis also had a dust up with one of her long-time friends.

Why?

She suspects that her hubby has been bonking the long-time friend behind her back!

Oh, boy. Is Hubby taking after his Daddy?

Similar: The Pretend Holiday Invitation

TV Actress:

Sis/Her Husband:

[Optional] Do you think Hubby is cheating on Sis?

So many of these "articles" about Sparkle's staff leaving talk about her strong "work ethic".

WTF?

What exactly is she "working" at that requires multiple emails and bothering people at 5AM?

In what way is she busy at all that she needs a work ethic?

The source of the Middleton Family money has always been a mystery despite quite a few articles detailing their rise from semi-detached home, to country cottage, to large country home.

* Mike Middleton was the recipient of a trust established in the 1930s worth apprx £100,000, earmarked for the education of descendants. Although it was split among the children, the capital was not touched and it continued earning sensible sums along the way. Then in the 1980s, the London Financial Markets took off and so did the value of the trusts. For example, Kate the oldest, was moved to better schools. Moreover, Pippa attended Marlborough on a full scholarship. So, while the fees were expensive, we can see how they might have become affordable: the trusts increasing returns and Pippa's full scholarship to Marlborough.

* In the late 80s, Carole, who loved children's parties, got the idea for Party Pieces. She originally started promoting them at local fairs and created mail catalog as her mailing list grew. She also attended every school event, reached higher-level clientele and expanded her list. Yes, the stuff is tacky and the poshest girls at school probably party planners for their birthdays. The less posh no doubt had parents who wanted easy decorations for younger siblings. The list is 30 years old. It's include several generations of many persons who went on to do very well for themselves.

* Party Pieces Income: Part comes from selling party pieces, part comes from the list and it is not inconceivable that Uncle Gary purchased tons of stuff as a way of laundering money. This is how they become rich.

* Prince William: Widely rumored to have helped them make cash purchases - these include a vacant lot outside their old property which again the Middletons paid cash for, their new Middleton Manor (the décor of which originated from Royal basements). Moreover, he provided access to discounts - most famously an Audi Kate drove during her girlfriend days. Other discounts may have been used as well.

Present day: The trusts are probably large right now, but can't be touched. Party Pieces merchandise has run its course and the list can be sold due to new regulations. If Uncle Gary is no longer in need of money laundering and Prince William is not as generous (for reasons), then one can see how, while Middletons are not going broke, they are experiencing a money crunch given their lifestyle.

Favorite bailout bet: Pippa's shady father in law.

Much of what you’re saying rings true R316 but I’d be interested to see a source for the Middletons’ current house being decorated with furniture raided from the royal cast off furniture collection. It doesn’t work that way.

R253 James Middleton's company sold marshmallows with digital images on them not cakes. I hate marshmallows.

R258 And while we're at it, her hair doesn't look good with that red rinse on it.

R311 Well, the silicone Moonbump seems to have liquified. The bump certainly was sloshing around in this video that someone previosly posted.

R314 , it's been mentioned a few times on Blind Gossip that they know Sparkle reads it, alluding t o the fact she contacts them with blinds, the first starting when she was shagging the dim Prince.

Ya'll wanna be me.

R322 Finally! That is the emerald Vladimir Tiara that MM wanted to wear at her wedding, not the one that Eugenie wore at her wedding.

R255, R262: Please show me even one instance of KATE herself (who is the only Middleton member of the royal family) merching on behalf of Party Pieces, her brother’s various businesses, or Uncle Gary.

Name ONE instance in which Kate, since marrying into the royal family, used her position to push products to promote or comment on any of her family’s businesses or activities. I can’t come up with a single one. (The rest of her family doesn’t count—they are private citizens, and have a right to work and run their lives and businesses as they see fit. Just like the Markle clan).

The Middletons started that party business in—what? the 80s?—and it flourished because it offered products that weren’t as easy to find or purchase as they are today. Before that, both Carole and Michael held good jobs in the airline industry (nothwithstanding the “doors to manual” snickers among the tushy toffees or whatever the hell the upper crust—who never earned an honest pound/dollar in their lives—call themselves). They used their own money to start and grow that business. Newsflash: drugs, yachting, and website clicks aren’t the only way to make a living!

Megs, Mulphoney, Lainey, and the S.S. PR shill brigade sashay into the picture, and suddenly, we’re subject to a flood of stories that portray the Middletons as the antichrists, William as a cheater about to divorce Kate, Charlotte as a brat, and Kate as a mean girl who won’t give poor little Megsy a ride to shop, among other “revelations.” A rather convenient distraction from sex tapes and expanding/contracting/shifting baby bumps, don’t you think?

Even disregarding Uncle Gary’s potential role, I can well imagine that Party Pieces could be having trouble. They’re not a novelty anymore, and with the advent of Amazon, I would bet they have trouble competing. As someone mentioned above, businesses have a life cycle, and theirs seems to be at the end. They haven’t really branched out into new markets, so it makes sense that the business has eroded. No shame in that, the kids aren’t interested in running it obviously, and the parents are probably keen on retiring.

“Newsflash: drugs, yachting, and website clicks aren’t the only way to make a living!”

They’re not, but they’re incredibly lucrative!

Regarding the Omi poll... typically, children who aren’t being of the monarch/future monarch on put on display outside the hospital, right? Usually they just release official photos

I like to imagine the Queen having her tea by the fireside at Windsor and fantasising of what life might be like now if Harry either hadn't married at all or had married Chelsy. I imagine Kate and William have done the same . . .

"When the children are asleep/We'll sit and dream . . . "

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r317 - I didn't mean they decorated all of Middleton Manor with Royal cast-offs. It's probably the English country modern look they all strive for. Just meant that W/K allowed some interesting decorative pieces, no longer in use, for them to borrow. As to the source, it was a tabloid speculating on how the decorated.

Regarding sources - some of it is quite old.

Middleton Trust - came from one broadsheets before Kate's wedding. Information regarding growth of said Trust is my own knowledge of how the London "Big Bang" made all sorts of dusty old trusts suddenly more valuable.

Same for the Midddleton's rise in wealth, and Carole's early years. Again from a piece on Party Pieces around Kate's wedding. Uncle Gary - well, that is just a rumor going around and I ID it as such.

Pippa's scholarship - a profile on her during her "moment"

Prince William's contribution - rumors have going around for quite some time. ID them as such. Kate's Audi - tabloid from their breakup abt her new Audi, point being that they are still together cause she got the Audi.

Present day - knowledge of list selling laws in place in the UK and my assumption that Uncle Gary and William are not ponying up.

Best bet for bailout: Pippa's father-in-law has already given James a "job" a tour guide at their "estate." Betting is he will contribute as he has not been tapped before.

Fergie and Andrew mugged newborn Beatrice and Eugenie in front of the Portland Hospital where the princesses were delivered. Edward and Sophie beamed with baby in full view of the photogs at Frimley Park Hospital upon delivery of Louise and subsequently James. Below is a photo of Anne in front of the Lindo showing off baby daughter Zara. So there is precedent for royal offspring regardless of hierarchy being shown publicly for the cameras shortly after delivery.

Anne was/is a class act!

R327 - in English, please.

Oh for Christ's sake, Party Pieces only let three staff go.

Exactly - and they were most likely brought on most recently (“last on / first off” in business) so they are possibly just back to where they were before the Xmas rush. It’s not a publically listed company and has no need to report this kind of news so anything in the press is conjecture, again.

But even if the business was being wound up - so what? What’s the impact for the royal family? None. Just another excuse to cut down the Middletons, who will one day retire on the enormous profits that they have no doubt invested wisely over the years. Good for them, I say!

Party Pieces cut half their staff according to the Sun (take it with a grain of salt).

It's significant if the company only has 6 workers and it let 3 go.

I think they had 10 workers...

R337 If that's true, it's 30 percent of the staff complement. That sounds significant to me but I defer to those with better knowledge of the topic.

I think it goes up to 40. The business is seasonal. This is a non story..

Just a quick glance at their website shows nothing that would differentiate themselves from Amazon, or other low-cost party suppliers like Walmart (or the English equivalent). Their stuff is very generic and inexpensive, so there’s nothing unique there. But no shame in that, they struck when the market was hot, and did well.

R 311, I think it is possible that he did this to keep them away from the Cambridges.

[quote]Last night a spokesperson for Party Pieces told The Sun: “Party Pieces owes a duty of confidentially to its employees and cannot comment on speculation."

[quote] "We can confirm the business is currently working on an exciting development partnership and long term growth strategy, and as part of this process the company’s structure is being reviewed to align with its financial targets, in consultation with its staff."

Sounds like they plan to fire more people.

^ Firing staff due to Brexit.

R238 One never 'borrows'! One acquires'..,

“The wardrobe malfunction with Janet Jackson was Sunshine Sachs’ highly controversial work.”

R345 what does that mean? They planned it? Or did damage control?

This is one of the articles from around the time of the wedding that R330 mentions.

It's doubtful of the Middletons' finances. The family's personal wealth, based on their consumption, far exceeds the size of its business. The article is only speculating based on known facts such as the homes bought, how much the company says in publicity material and the fact that they have 2 shell companies. Party Pieces is a private company so its books as not publicly available.

Good question, R346.

Here’s an article that claims Janet Jackson is an S.S. client. Doesn’t say when she signed with them. Justin Timberlake signed with S.S. in 2018.

According to Variety, Ken Sunshine “advised” Justin after the 2004 Super Bowl debacle. Justin T. ended up smelling like a rose. Janet got thrown under the bus.

If Janet was an S.S client during nipplegate, I would’ve dumped them.

It's only taken 32 threads and thousands of poorly-informed, poorly-reasoned posts to get to something interesting that has a ring of truth to it. Thank you, r262.

Perhaps some big company is buying Party Pieces and the trimming of staff is part of the deal...

“Party Pieces is a private company so its books as not publicly available.”

In other words, R347, it’s like any other private company. So it’s useless to “speculate” whether or not the Middleton riches are commensurate with their business. Furthermore, as private citizens, they aren’t required to disclose how they invest their personal wealth. Only Kate’s wealth, as a member of the royal family, is subject to public scrutiny.

R351 This is a gossip site. It's raison d'être is speculation.

The Middletons are royal adjacent. If not for their wealth, Kate would not have had the private school education that placed her within William's social circle.

The article at r347 is fascinating. The most interesting thing is their analysis of companies of similar size as Party Pieces only clearing 130K annually in profit. Makes sense to me that there’s funny stuff going on. I hope it doesn’t blow up in their face.

The pic posted by R304 ...that girl looks just like Alyssa Edwards.

I'd imagine that Kate's wealth isn't open to public scrutiny as technically she doesn't have any taxable income. William is paid from his Fathers income and a trust, so neither is his.

Diana's wealth was only exposed after her divorce/death.

I have some real gossip questions to be answered.

1. Does Prince Dreamboat Andy have low hangers? We have all seen his endowment "down there" in those racy pictures of him gallivanting in his birthday suit. However we have no clear photographic evidence of his "crown jewels"

2. We do know that he sports a majestic royal bush. Any reports on his musk?

3. Does anyone have any hi-definition photographs of his armpits?

"There may, of course, be other explanations, involving aspects of their lives that we do not know.

Kate’s biographer, Claudia Joseph, has suggested that some inherited wealth on Mr Middleton’s side of the family played a part. In fact, this appears to be a red herring. Kate’s paternal relatives were prosperous merchants in 19th-century Leeds and it has been reported that her paternal grandfather, Peter, inherited the then equivalent of £1.3 million in 1951.

Probate records show, however, that it was £19,500 – the then equivalent of £480,000 – of which Peter Middleton’s share was only a quarter. Indeed, if Carole and Michael had inherited any wealth, they would probably have lived less modestly in their early married lives."

Yes because the very thorough background check that was done on the then Kate Middleton before her engagement either missed the fact that her maternal uncle was a drug dealer and laundering funds through her parents’ company, or discovered this information and it was decided that it wasn’t a problem.

Uncle Gary is a drug user - he’s admitted to using coke and as a rich man I’m sure he can afford the best. But if he was a drug dealer he’d be in jail by now and his niece wouldn’t be the next Princess of Wales.

The Middletons got rich through good luck and hard work.

Some of you people live in a fantasy world.

Let's shine the spotlight back on Meghan's finances. Was there a clothing line that never took off? How much of her own money did she stupidly fronted in that failed venture? What was her net income after agent fees, taxes, and extra spending associated with wannabe starlet? Who's paying her PR now? When are the receipts from her clothing bill going to be made public, so that we can see money was actually spent on them?

I think in June we'll hear about Sparkles' million pound wardrobe.

Wow, even if Meg is not the source of the nasty rumors, she has got to be loving it. Poor Kate, this is actually pretty sad if true. Of all things.

Their fiscal year ends on the 31st of March and the report is normally released during the last week of June.

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R359 From what I recall it was not a clothing line. Meghan partnered with a clothing line to do something called a “capsule collection” which typically is a one-off arrangement where a brand works with a celeb to design a couple pieces of clothing, stamps the celebs name on it for publicity and cache, and then markets it to the public that way. I can’t recall what brand she worked with, but I remember never having heard of it before which would explain why they would be eager to partner with someone with her d-list level of fame.

This arrangement would not require her to put forth any money.

Per BlindGossip (a possible MEghan shill notwithstanding), if this Rose prattle came from Kate then she really is that proverbial iron hand in a velvet glove--and I for one damn well welcome it.

Petty William and vengeful Kate give the Cambridges edges and edges make protagonists that much more fascinating and dare I say rootable. Own that inner bitch Katie honey.

R363 As always, the DM link shows a video instead of the article. You can find it by Googling "Daily Mail Middleton Trust Fund." Or by going to DM and searching for the title"The family tragedy that helped the Middletons make their millions."

It was Reitmans, R364; as part of their "Reitmans. Really." campaign in which they tried to reposition the brand as something other Stein Mart North. That is, nana's first choice for white polyester capris.

Her jawline looks very mannish in that photo.

Really R368? I dont see it.

R369 you made me LOL in public.

I agree with R369. Dil knows all there is to know about delicate bone structure.

R367 you can sure see the merching in the video after the Reitman's ad. Its so obvious now, but unheard of then.

[quote] you can sure see the merching in the video after the Reitman's ad.

Who wants to tell R372 how the internet works?

With out a nose job, and hair straightening, Megs could pass as Dil.

LOL about the detour into Dil/ Megs as Dil. I saw the movie when I was little and thought he was a she. It wasn't until when I was in my 30s and I saw it again on cable that I thought what a dumbass I was for thinking he was a woman.

With all the screeching going on, we needed a brief distraction..

R324, Meghan and of course Harry (he is right there with her) are so resentful and competitive they want to dismantle everything Kate and William have that make them "better" even though Kate and William EARNED everything that makes them better, except for the fact that William was born first. Poor poor Harry, the only second child of an heir that was ever born. How can the world and various granny and great granny bequests make it up to him? Never mind Margaret, Anne, Edward, Charlotte, Louis. It's Harry! Life is so UNFUCKINGFAIR!

So, Meghan has ghosted her entire family, even Doria's side which has not dragged her through the gutter on social media. There is no money there. The Middletons have money from a business they started in the 1980s when nobody else was doing it and there was no internet. They became rich. Not fabulously wealthy like SOME of the aristos dotting the countryside, but real money. The family is also close, loving, available to each other, and supportive.

Kate and William waited a long time to marry rather than mimic the fate of his mum, Diana, who was engaged at 19 and married at 20, and we all know the debacle that ensued. Jack and Eugenie also waited a long time. Chelsy and Harry were together a long time as well, many more break-ups than Kate and Will, but hit the rocks. Kate and Will culminated with Willam being a man of his word and pretty fucking much he and she emerging triumphant no matter how bitter Will stans tore their garments. Subsequently they've had three beautiful kids and they may not be done.

This is in contrast to Harry Meghan who wed after Harry had been turned down by everybody eligible on two continents and apparently then decided he may as well go into the grifting business and marry a pro (or whore, if you will).

This cannot be borne!

Therefore - oh, the Middletons are self-made? Oh dear, maybe ONCE they were but their business is suffering now, they had a good run, and btw if it ISN"T suffering it's actually just a front for Uncle Gary's drug business so no credit to them. They're NOT better than Meghan's family.

Hmm? Doesn't Michael Middleton have a girlfriend? Never mind, making it up right now. They're NOT a happy family and Meghan isn't the only one with a broken family!

Will and Kate are NOT a genuine couple with a genuine courtship and family - he's CHEATING! They're just as fake as Harry and Meghan.

It's all a concerted dismantling effort by PR and as transparent as glass and very ineffective. All the rumors in the world won't make Kate look unhappy, insecure in herself, unconfident. I remember an Enquirer drop claiming she was post partneming, Will was being patient, but poor Katie couldn't get out of bed. Then she kept showing up at her engagements bright eyed, happy and glowing, which is why this crap doesn't stick.

I also like the stan who posted weeks ago that "Kate and Will were going through a rough patch. Just a BIT of rough you know. Just enough for people who aren't them to chatter about it and pass it on to third, fourth, and fifth parties, because Kate and Will share like that, but nothing to WORRY about. It will blow over." Because when people go through a tiny, "oh it's nothing!" period of stress they confide in all their social friends. While assuring them it's not a big deal. That's how everyone in MY family does it. It's not a faked up piece of groundwork bullshit at all.

Besties.

Sheesh Megs, say it don't spray it especially when it's the HBIC QE2

To the delusional, naive fucks on here. Stop ass licking grifters and criminals with your PATHETIC ‘explain-aways’! Are you all really that stupidly ignorant?

Royal families and the super-wealthy/aristos have been hiding/laundering their cash and getting away with heinous crimes for a millennia. WHY is it so hard to believe the Middletons are any different? OF COURSE Party Pieces was a laundering front for Uncle Gary’s cocaine business. JUST WAIT till this shit hits the fan.

That’s not even the worst of it. Guaranteed, the tabloids are next going to start hinting about Pippa’s father in law (another ‘commoner’ who just ‘happened’ to become rich overnight without winning the lottery and then randomly bought a hotel in a tax haven) DAVID MATTHEWS pedo past. There have been many blind items about David and Pippa’s husband JAMES, raping kids and worse at their secretive Eden Rock Hotel on St Barts. Bet every single celebrity who’s ever stayed there is now quaking in their boots.

Why are Jeffrey Epstein’s shenanigans so easy to believe but this is not??

^ Please take the psychopath assessment immediately!

Gary Goldsmith sold his company for £275 million. It would be very likely he helped fund his sister's kids' education without money laundering or drug dealing.

^^ Naive idiots/paid spinners

*rolls eyes*

R380 The Eden Rock Hotel secretive?? It’s paparazzi heaven you suburban twit! The rest of your unhinged rant doesn’t deserve comment.

It must be torture to be living on welfare in some flyover state, all torn up with envy at other people’s success.

R380 Just checking your post for signs of lunacy:

Extensive use of exclamation marks!! ✔️ Random words in ALL CAPS? ✔️ Tin hat nonsensical conspiracy theories? ✔️ Complete inability to construct a logical sentence in the English language? ✔️ Total lack of understanding of how the upper classes, royal families and mega-rich operate? ✔️ ✔️ ✔️

Well done - you’re officially certifiable.

We don't care what they do behind doors, r380. They meet the expectations of their role, for the most part. Dress appropriately, unveil plaques, support worthy causes, etc.

They're not the bloviating, self-important, bump-cradling, fame whoring, real whoring, self-pitying, scheming, conniving spectacle that is MM.

Bitch, please. Markle will be pushing everyone aside as she flings herself out the Lindo doors with the sprog. Her placenta will be hanging out like a price tag under her dress.

She'll be showing off not only her wardrobe, but that of the baby. They will have to remind her that this is a quick photo op so she doesn't spend hours in front of the press doing the baby like she did those briefcases.

R386 Oh I agree. MM is repugnant.

To the rest of you Royal Stans. You’re also repugnant. Get a clue, you sheeple fucks.

Yup yup yup yup yup.

Thread summary, thus far..

R377 vs R380 Pistols at dawn

Will cut the cunting cunt.

But seriously though. Money Laundering and Child Rape. MM kinda pales in comparison.

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r393 - recently new regs were passed that makes selling personal information contingent on the customer's approval. Maybe long-time clients can be sort of grandfathered out of the regs, but not the new. My understanding of this impact on Party Pieces.

Do you think Sparkle does anal?

If she tosses some random's salad for money or favours, I think pretty much anything else would also be on the Markle menu.

Harry's been busy again

R397, you mean Sunshine Sachs has been busy again.

Harry is just a dimwit.

[quote] Royal families and the super-wealthy/aristos have been hiding/laundering their cash and getting away with heinous crimes for a millennia. WHY is it so hard to believe the Middletons are any different? OF COURSE Party Pieces was a laundering front for Uncle Gary’s cocaine business. JUST WAIT till this shit hits the fan.

This is one of my research interests. I agree with you that there is a lot more money laundering going on than people know, but none of this will ever come to light. It benefits no one to publicize it.

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R387 is savage. Had a laugh, myself, reading it. Please stick around.

Some of you have an interesting take on Doria. She's always seemed so noble, so unselfish, so wise. The truth is that she doesn't give five fucks about any of it, and I find that incredibly refreshing. She doesn't seem to want much to do with her disgusting daughter, and I like that, too.

Doria's motto " Don't do anything for someone, unless they can do something for you " was slipped out, somewhere. It explains a lot.

I still think her real name is Doris

R404 Wow, is that right? It sure would explain a lot.

Funny how if you just keep your mouth shut, people think you’re dignified and wise.

It's always worked for me, R406, and I'm not dignified OR wise.

I have this feeling Doria doesn’t want to spend much time with Sparkle . When the baby is born it will be 2 weeks and off to LA again .

Even 2 weeks is pushing it.

R387 "Bitch, please. Markle will be pushing everyone aside as she flings herself out the Lindo doors with the sprog. Her placenta will be hanging out like a price tag under her dress."

R387 for the win!

Have the intelligent, interesting posters fled for saner pastures? I miss pictures of, and tidbits about, the BRF (you know, the rest of them, living and dead.) I also enjoy gossip and speculation about H & M and K && W, but I find the increasingly numerous Tumblr-type posts irritating and boring. Can't these posters be given their own thread?

^K & W

R411 Well, I tried with a Duchess of Windsor post upthread, nobody bit.

I was wondering how today's young royals view the abdication - hot or not?

Charles makes a new friend in the Cayman Islands. Look at those red and stubby sausage fingers. There are photos of Camilla as well.

I don't know why she wears so much makeup. It's warpaint. Is everyday a battle for Meghan?

Sophie with a doctor who has saved the sight of over 20,000 Indian children.

R411 R413 - It's hard to compete with the Daily Mail and rumours of sex tapes, the Downton Abbey's set's adultery, maternity wardrobes of 650,000 in six months, dangling tendrils, and the imminent arrival of the Queen's first mixed race half-American grandchild.

One tries now and then, but it's like tacking against the wind.

*Downton Abbey set's

I’ve read that Sebba’s book (and a bunch of others about the Windsors) R413, and was intrigued by your post. It’s a fascinating episode in history. I didn’t respond because it’s hard to say how they must feel about it and I didn’t want to contribute to some of the more nonsensical comments on here pretending to know exactly what the royals are thinking and feeling. It’s interesting to think about though.

It’s so far removed from the young royals. I wonder how connected they feel to it. I’ve attached a documentary made by Edward, the Queen’s Son, about his great-uncle, Edward, the Duke of Windsor. It’s interesting because he clearly felt drawn to and interested enough in the story to make a docu about it. He tries to remain neutral, but bias still creeps in on occasion. Watch and let me know what you think!

R411 I imagine the younger royals, raised with stories of the shame of his abdication and his subsequent shunning and financial decline, realize it wouldn't be cool in reality. But, a couple of them probably secretly wish they could escape the institution without suffering the same consequences.

^Not sure if they privately think he was very brave or just a love-addled dope.

R19 - Unless I'm mistaken, that photo isn't of Edward - it's his younger brother, Prince Albert, later Duke of York and then King George VI after his brother decamped with the American adventuress, as the inimiatable Queen Mary aptly called Wallis.

R414 I wonder if Prince Charles has psoriatic arthritis, a condition marked by sausage fingers and toes.

I think you’re right R422. Clearly whoever posted it to YouTube just slapped the wrong photo as the headline photo. The documentary is legitimate though if you click on it.

R399

I’d agree with you normally, but we’re also living in a time now where we commoners know about Jeffrey Epstein and his super wealthy pedo friends; Panama Papers; Royal affairs and A list college cheaters, just to name a few scandals that have surfaced recently....

It’s only a matter of time before more dirt squirts out. Party Pieces drugs front, Doria’s (real name changed from “Doris”) jail spells, Royal bearding, and so on.

I guess the Elite had ‘fixers’ or whatevs in the past that killed or paid to keep shit hidden. The internet kinda fucked that up.

Thanks for posting that video, I will definitely check it out. Sebba’s book is interesting but she does make certain claims that to me read as pure speculation, such as Wallis having physiological issues with her sexual anatomy etc. As evidence she mainly cites Wallis’ “masculine” facial features, then goes on to speculate how this would account for Wallis’ over the top coquetry being compensation. I dunno.

Meghan tabloid covers. Some of the headlines are hilarious. I wish the "Meghan must go" conversation would really have happened.

R419 Thank you for the video. Though the younger royals are removed in time from Edward's situation, it is an infamous part of modern British history that continues to generate interest (in recent popular culture, the movie 'The Darkest Hour' and the series 'The Crown' come to mind.)

When is that crazy bitch supposed to fart her baby out?

Ewww she hooked up with Matt Lauer? I didn’t hear that before.

And what’s the deal with her and Piers Morgan? Piers acts like such a spurned lover whenever he talks about her. Did they actually hook up too?

Matt Lauer fucked everyone.

I’m not surprised Sparkle seems to have really gotten around. Daddy issues, entertainment industry, and she seems to have decided she would trade on her sex appeal (though god knows why.)

So of course she’s fucked everyone, too.

Is Phoney Balony Mulroney MM’s gay lover or Madam.

Mulroney irritates me more than Smegs.

And WHET Samantha Markle!

Videos and a slide show of The Queen's week of engagements.

What was the purpose of H and Smegs random trip to Morocco?

To check on the surrogate?

Samantha is supposedly dropping her book soon, around the time of the birth. Maybe she is holding off to avoid Sam fatigue and for maximum impact? Leave it to the Markles (and I very much include Smegs in this lot) to try and upstage the other.

The Queen writes about baby Edward to her midwife/nanny Helen Rowe in 1964. Click for more photos and the Queen's scribble.

The three Windsor ladies - Anne, the Queen Mum and Queen Elizabeth. Everyone got the memo to wear white and gold. LOL.

GOD looking at that GIF, if Markle has one genius it is finding the camera lens. Look at her find it right before she starts gesturing and yakking at poor nonplussed queenie. If there were a satellite telescope on Mars aimed towards London and it for some reason was aimed towards Markle when it zoomed in she would find it.

R432 Since Mulroney is married to a gay or bi guy it is rumored by twitter's The Beard Club and others that she and Jessica are close like that.

There's a contingent claiming the Markles are in on it with Smegs. Hard to believe since the trash talking from Samantha is pretty heavy handed. Then again she never delivers anything you can put your arms around. Last year someone claiming to work for a PR concern in London described how her firm met with Markle and her reps to discuss hiring the PR firm to assist her transition into royal life. Their brief was about what you'd expect - Markle saw her demographic as young people, she especially wanted to appeal to the U.S., she thought she could build to being Diana V.2 (apparently said exactly that). But the interesting part is her dad and her sister were both listed as contacts.

If all of this is really about promoting Soho House, even if it has gone haywire, then indeed Samantha and Tom Sr. are not on brand. For the BRF, sure. Family is family. For a douchebag ill-conceived high-ish level global brothel like Soho House, no. Everything must be aspirational. That is the only circumstance under which I can see Samantha and Tom Sr. secretly cooperating with Meghan, helping her "separate" from her trashy background (and giving the public ample reason to see why she would want to) - if her "ghosting" them is more about her Soho brand than her BRF one.

R434 the speculation is the BRF sent them to Morocco to head off Markle appearing at the Oscars. It's believed that massive gazillion dollar beige caftan she wore was her intended "Oscar look" and she was going to present with Serena.

In that “Reitmans, Really” ad campaign Megs is painfully, painfully awkward. And simultaneously irritating.

I usually feel great compassion for awkward people, but Jesus Christ she is annoying.

And she has the weirdest figure I’ve ever seen on an actress. I can’t believe anyone thought she should be modeling their clothes.

But the Sparkle Sashay is on full display! She twitches her terrible, wide, flat ass back and forth like she’s Jessica Biel!

You got flat, wide white girl booty! Ain’t nobody got time for that!

The Princess Royal Mary, Princess Margaret Rose and then Princess Elizabeth all kitted out.

Oh ffs R428 is this your first day on the DL? A lot of what fell out of your mouth is pure BS.

Anne had her time as a Brownie. She probably was a leader because she's good at bossing people around.

A lovely photo of the Queen Mum with her two daughters.

In the Brownies Anne would have been a Sixer

Did someone say Sparkle Sashay? It's on display in all of the ads, but the crossed eyes in this one really overshadow it.

Watch her eyes when she spins around at :25.

R403 I agree about Doria. I don't care what is or isn't shady in her background, nothing shady or a lot shady. I love her don't give five fucks attitude and it's absolutely genuine. You can't fake that. She was perfectly composed but not even marginally thirsty at the three royal events she attended, and as a consequence looked about a thousand times more royal than her daughter. She's the one who fit in. I like that she doesn't care about clothes unless she's dressed up for one of these infrequent royal outings, which is ALSO on par with the BRF, who often have rumpled, don't give a fuck off duty style, particularly when out in the country. She doesn't look at all put upon or beat down doing her heavier laundry in a public laundromat - she seems to like her L.A. life just fine.

I was offended on her behalf when so many Sugars were certain she would move to the U.K. so she could be a damn nanny for the Harkles. Does she LOOK like she wants to nanny their spawn? She barely musters interest in the child she has.

Lord, Sparkle licks her teeth at :07 as she makes eyes with the guy. She really gives blow job face at all times. That's some awkward dancing tho.

Markle's biggest problem is she looks like what she is. She can put out all the poor me (or wonderful me) stories she wants. One look at her and people see the phony and the conniving.

She was hot as fuck, r445

R449 = blind, deaf and dumb.

R449 = Phony Balony Mulroney

Okay, I was wrong. I watched it again and the eyes do not overshadow that walk at the end, or the accompanying feral look on her face. It's like the scene at the end of every deranged-nanny Lifetime movie when, after a long and bloody fight, the protagonist thinks she's won and we hear sirens in the distance. She plucks Madyssyn and D'ykotah from their hiding place and just as she's about to hobble out of the house with them, MM Reitmans-walks up behind them, hatchet in hand. Police storm the house. End.

Reitmans. Bloodlust. Really.

r449 - I agree, Sparkles looks sexy in her Reitman's commercials. Seems some posters are trying impose their opinion of clips we can we see with our own eyes.

Since every one has gone shit house crazy, I made this to lighten the mood.

She's repulsive.

R445 - The Sparkle Sashay and her fake megawatt smile can suck the energy out of any room she enters. She's quite exhausting to watch so I can only imagine what living with her would be like. She's also a terrible actress.

She is definitely not a person who would know anything about the phrase "less is more".

The Royal family haven't been 'Squeaky Clean' in over a thousand years of history. The have had adulterers, gay scandals, divorces, madness and internal feuds all of the way through their history.

Very few Monarchs have been untainted by it all, including HM Queen.

They all have too much money and too much time on their hands.

Harry is my favorite royal.

Yeah she’s sashays, and yes she is sexy. I picture poor besotted Harry eagerly watching all these YouTube videos and Suits re-runs in the early stages of their long-distance courtship.

R454 LOL! You should add 'Duchy Original'.

The outfit in the Reitman’s ad looks cheap. Her body is so blocky and squat, too.

But she looks animated and engaging, and she has a nice voice.

I think she just tries too damn hard to be sexy to actually *be* sexy. Desperation is never attractive.

R445 I have second-hand embarassment from that video.

R437 What a lovely picture. The gowns...

Her voice is creepy and phoney like her.

For R460

lol r466

Did you bitches not learn the terrible dangers of the fake husky voice from the “Theranos” threads?!?!

Megs is obviously not heavy, but her body reads as awkward and burly in those ads.

She is short and awkwardly shaped, so she probably needs to be underweight to read as “thin” on camera. See also: Kelly Ripa.

She seems like a weird looking little kid playing dress up and pantomiming “grownups being sexy.” With all the discomfort that implies.

R460. Why, thank you. Perhaps Charles will see this and expand his business into feminine hygiene products, further ingratiating himself with his new daughter-in-law.

Here's the final Reitmans ad. This time it's the frauen who get to pretend they recognize her.

I am starting to see very clearly how MM sold herself to Harry. I think he felt trapped in a deep hole with no way out. He knew (and stated) that he would become increasingly irrelevant as his brother's children grew up. He lacks the skills, cunning,and even desire to have a role like Andrew's. Always he would be overshadowed by his brother, perhaps to the point of becoming invisible like Edward. And along comes MM, with her big brown eyes, blinding smile and American confidence. Plus she was fun, liked to party and knew how to give a killer blowjob. She convinced him they could turn the whole thing around with PR magic and have a great life as dazzling globetrotting humanitarians, beloved by all.

But sadly, MM's knowledge of the BRF, British traditions and the British public were entirely lacking and now poor Harry is worse off than when he started. He's no longer the lovable rogue. He's the fool who got conned by an obvious grifter who is now ensconsed in the BRF.

R466 I'm saving this, if you don't mind.

Her eyes did cross in that commercial at R445. I'm surprised the director didn't reshoot it.

Duchy tampons. I love it. Perhaps Meghan can hand them out during her menstrual health activities Harry reminded us about at his deceased friend's memorial service -- with inspirational messages written in red Sharpie? (though I can't think of anything inspirational related to menstruation) Ah, it all comes full circle in the Windsor clan.

R472, agreed.

In reality, I think the “invisible” royals like Edward gets the best deal of all. Edward gets to live a low key but well-financed life with a fraction of the responsibilities big brother Charles will have. Then again, that kind of life wouldn’t be appealing to a famewhore like Harry.

[quote]Her eyes did cross in that commercial at [R445]. I'm surprised the director didn't reshoot it.

What if they did and that was the best take of the bunch?

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I think she’s for sure an adventuress, but can’t deny she’s kind of adorable in those ads. LOL at the price tag sticking out.

[quote]I think the “invisible” royals like Edward gets the best deal of all. Edward gets to live a low key but well-financed life with a fraction of the responsibilities big brother

I think it took Edward some time to realize this. He formed is own TV production company which produced some awful "Battle of the Network Stars" type of tournament with teams sponsored by lesser royals. It was heavily criticized by the press. Supposedly, he had been advised not to embark on this project. Later, one of his production teams started following Prince William around at St. Andrew's which enraged Charles. The press had a 'silent agreement' sort of arrangement with the RF that William would be left alone and allowed to live his university years in relative peace. IIRC, the press did honor this, but Edward did not. Then there was the whole scandal of Sophie influence peddling with a reporter who posed as a wealthy Arab who wanted entree into the RF. They learned to recede into the background.

R477 Well then maybe a Diva Cup. And the name fits.

LOL I found this.

Perhaps our resident meme creator can personalize the "Dutchess" cups for Meghan?

She could write inspirational messages on them, eg, 'You go, Gurl!'

R481 Nipples just like her topless photos

More inspirational messages for the menstrual cups:

You got this!

Hang in there

Be strong

Keep the faith

Go with the flow

Go heavy or go home

Cling to hope

Feel your power

We are with you!

The embryonic kick of PMS.

Wow dirty Blackamoor cows have turned another good thread into a cesspool of their racist,inbreed rantings.You slags are actually discussing menstral cycles and royalty.Yuck,your all screaming nutters probably inbreeding with your siblings.

An Carol Middleton/Party City/Uncle "cocaine"Gary are merchers bitches.Just like your beloved Meghan,who your all insanely jealous of.Laughs.

Prince Harry dosen't want you pigs,face it.

R488. LOL, you're a nutter.

Been there; done that

[quote] The press had a 'silent agreement' sort of arrangement with the RF that William would be left alone and allowed to live his university years in relative peace. IIRC, the press did honor this, but Edward did not.

Not true.

For true story, watching "Reinventing the Royals" on Youtube.

Truth was that (1) William agreed to meet with the press and then they would leave him alone.

(2) William met with press.

(3) Edward was working on a video.

(4) After meeting with William, press left town.

(5) Edward's people did not leave, but were filming around the town but NOT following or filming William.

(6) Charles' PR guy used this as an attack on Edward which quashed his documentary even though none of what was being filmed after the press left was of William at all.

(7) This was one of the examples (there were others) given of Charles' PR guy throwing other royals under the bus to improve Charles' (and Camilla's) image.

(8) The Queen eventually insisted that PR guy be fired and reminded Charles that the whole family was supposed to work together and not attack other family members to benefit himself.

Excellent 2 part documentary.

R488 you’re back! You still don’t understand the difference between “an” and “and”! You still can’t construct logical sentences! You still have barely any understanding of the English language including spelling, grammar and punctuation! You still don’t understand what “merch” means while continuing to use it!

Now you hate Meghan (I think that’s what you’re trying to convey, it’s not exactly clear) whereas before you were shilling for her!

You’re deranged and everybody is laughing at you! Keep up the good work, R488, you’re extra special.

The Royal Family and their horses...

R485 “Go with the flow” wins!

Queen Elizabeth's Jewelry and Tiaras --

I especially like Queen Mary’s Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara (aka “Granny’s Tiara”)- slide 7

I had never seen the Victoria Suite of Sapphire and Diamond Set- slide 9

Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara is said to be the Queen's favorite. I wonder who will get to wear it once she's gone, Camilla or Catherine?

wow the sashaying in the Reitmans ads is so totally pronounced. Like she'd bump the person walking next to her. It's fine for those ads, to sell High Street clothing, but she really needs to do away with it for her royal appearances. It does seem like she's toned it down since the wedding, has learned how to walk straighter and more naturally.

Thanks for the info. R491. I was working from memory. It was a little more complicated. I guess Edward also learned he's expendable to an extent.

With Deep Fake and other AI software, I'm not convinced that any alleged sex tape of MM is actually real. It's too easy to put someone's face onto another person's body. See below.

R367 MM looks so much better with a side part (whether it's the left or right). The center part isn't as flattering.

r495 - the cornflower blue on the sapphires on the Victoria Suite of Sapphire and Diamond Set is exquisite. Most sapphires today are darker, like on Diana's engagement ring.

R116 Kate waited 10 years for William. She wants to be Queen. She wouldn't dump all of that effort and ambition for the Turnip Toff film drector no matter how much money he possesses. She would never want to fracture her young family.

But something is going on. Since the birth of Louis, Kate's looked really haggard. Either he has health issues or William is cheating on her. I've never heard about him having a mistress in CT. Who is she?

R353 There really aren any company comps, because the other companies aren't owned by the family of the future Queen of England.

R502 I thought that the rumour was that William fucked the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, not that Kate fucked the Marquess. It can be difficult keeping track on these threads, eh?

Deeply hilarious (not) April Fool’s blind on BG.

Will is the baby’s father!!!!!

OMG.

R493. Truly one of the perks of being royal. The horse William is riding (#9 in the article) is so beautiful.

^Though I understand Kate is allergic to them.

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I think it needs to be said: the tampon jokes are about as funny as one-liners on Hee-Haw.

R 495 R501. Are they Ceylon sapphires?

R509 I think you missed the point entirely.

That Vladmir Tiara is truly magnificent. No wonder Meghan allegedly wanted it.

Tiara etiquette

No I got the point. The point is no obscure or clever. It would have been funny twenty years ago. Today it's just dumb.

Meghan has as much chance of ever wearing the Vladimir as I do.

My fantasy is that after the Queen is raptured and Charles becomes King, Camilla at the first state banquet as Queen wears the Vladimir (although she seems to favour the Delhi Durbar and the Honeycomb) with Meghan sitting at the far end of the table watching. Or better, Camilla wears the Delhi Durbar and Kate wears the Vladimir, with the emeralds rather than the pearls, and the Cambridge emerald earrings and pendant. And Meghan still has only the tiara she wore at her wedding.

That is, if Meghan is still around.

Oh that Enty... The joke R505 is many of MEghan's fanatics are going to run with it and squee that of course William wanted into her pants. (As if their were enough antibiotics in the world to persuade him to tap her ugly ass. MEghan can keep on dreaming. You'd have to be downright stupid with little prospects to fall for her ultra-basic ploys. Harry case in point.)

Dammit! Their should be "there."

R515 I love the scenario with Kate wearing the Vladimir. She can carry it off too.

r510 I don't know. In Victoria's time at the height of the Raj, Sri Lanka was called Ceylon. All I have to add. Maybe someone with an interest in gemology can help.

I'm no gemologist, but my mother has a vintage Art Deco ring with a large marquise-shaped Ceylon sapphire in the middle and it's a beautiful cornflower blue color. Eugenie's pink/salmon sapphire (called a padparadscha sapphire) is another rare and beautiful type of sapphire.

Forbes magazine wades in, specifically the "Me-Gain" waters. This is the first piercing look from American media of Smegma that I have seen.

I never thought I would say this but Camilla has kind of grown on me. Her clothing has improved out of sight. She must have an incredible stylist.

I assume this is general knowledge but in case it's not.

The carol service in December is one of several fundraisers the Henry Van Straubenzee memorial fund holds over the course of the year. The charity sells tickets to attend. It's not a memorial service. It's a way to recap the work the charity has done for the year and encourage its donors to shell out cash for the year ahead.

From their website

[quote] We aim to improve the quality of education in impoverished rural Ugandan schools by investing in buildings and providing hygienic and educational resources. We form partnerships with schools to ensure that even the poorest children have access to high quality education.

Some girls don't attend school when they have their period or stop school when they hit puberty. Feminine care products help keep girls in school. Based on the charity's mission statement, they probably provide feminine paper to encourage school attendance. Discussing menstruation wouldn't be out of place for this organization.

Probably not tampons though.

Those Reitman ads are so bizarre. They read more like an ad for a stay-at-home mom fantasizing that she's suddenly famous. I half expected the ad to end with Markle being snapped out of her daydream by someone honking at her mini-van, stopped at a light while her 4 kids scream that they're hungry.

That Forbes article is excellent.

First mentions of her “telling a fib (or ten)” and making it clear that she is the architect of her own unpopularity.

Also - interesting - a “royal insider” says the palace has a lucrative deal with People Magazine in the hope that if Americans love her, Brits will follow suit. Think Enty told us about this quite some time ago.

Yes...excellent article. And the R word appears nowhere (I think).

Should have said....thanks for posting it, R521.

Yes, James Middleton and Pappa Middleton too, have supposedly sexually assaulted several Caribbean barely legal girls, whom they hire as cleaning or kitchen help, then rape them. They are selected because they are poor and black and have no voice up against white privileged assholes like them. MM's thirsty shenanigans pale in comparison to rape and beating. But you go right ahead obsessing over what dress she's gonna wear to get more attention...

I was thinking "how lucrative can this deal be?" if People published the five friends' story about Meghan. Makes you wonder if People cleared it with the Palace first and the PR people and courtiers knowing how bad it would look to the British people gave the go ahead. Part of marginalizing Me-Again, perhaps. It was a major miscalculation on her part, palace green light or no.

[quote]According to inside sources, who like Meghan’s friends cannot be named, Royal Communications have a very lucrative deal with People Magazine in America. The reason? Apparently, they feel if Americans fall in love with her, then the Brits will naturally follow.

[quote]This is made clear when American actors like George Clooney have recently criticized media treatment of Meghan saying she is being “pursued and vilified”, and likening her scrutiny to that was received by Princess Diana. Like all PR for Meghan, this statement, too, seems to be doing more harm than good, with thousands of people leaving vitriolic comments.

The FORBES article is the first America broadsheet to bring up the glaring issue of the British taxpayer paying handsomely for someone who doesn't even appear to like Britain. It also brings up the fact that Meghan's PR efforts have all backfired. And thankfully someone has pointed out that she was a big nothing as an actress.

However, I'm a bit disappointed that FORBES repeated the bullshit that Meghan is worth $5 million. A publication like this should have been able to check this and not print it if it weren't true, which it very likely isn't.

Still, it has to be a dismaying appearance for the BRF.

Yes..that $5m thing is seriously irritating.

There is simply no way that a supporting character on a second-rate soap walks way with that kind of money in the bank. Even if she had made a sum like that, what’s she been living on?

Absurd.

Maybe those Reitman ads paid well.

R527 you’re obviously unhinged, but even so - don’t make stuff up.

It was interesting that the Forbes article appeared at all, I suppose. But even apart from the dodgy $5m quote, I have to say that the article was clearly not sub-edited - Forbes shouldn’t publish content containing typos/grammatical errors and mistakes with the titles of some of the key players.

R528 Maybe Dickie Arbiter telling Meghan to stop being "clever" was a reference to exactly this sort of situation, where she goes to People but BP gets a heads up and decides whether to let her hang herself. They've been in this game a lot longer than she has, with much more at stake.

I had never heard of this Meghan person before she hooked up with Harry. Was her show on ABC?

R533 I also felt that something was off in the wording and editing. It read more like a lower-tier tabloid piece.

She could be worth that much, if you factor in ad revenue from her website, with various odd gigs, and the show.

Adverts pay well when you’re George Clooney or Jennifer Aniston. Not so much for “hot girl#5”.

She got that gig because, not being well known, she was cheap.

Her show Suits was on the USA Network, a cable outlet.

Well, except there weren’t any ads on The Tig, R537. She wouldn’t even have got enough clicks to generate an jncome as hardly anyone visited until she publicised her sex life.

She got freebies and free publicity (of her own design) on The Tig. Not much else.

I think the biggest clue that she’s not rich in her own right is that she was never seen in Givenchy & Dior till she married a rich man, pdidn’t own her own house or car, and didn’t contribute to the wedding.

Millionaire? Bullshit. She earned well, and spent well.

I'm curious now. What designers, if any, was she seen in before Harry?

Writing about that crap she did on The Tig, is advertising. If there were links, she was getting money from that too. She could have approached companies, and offered to do it for them, or used the services of companies that do it. When I was between contracts for work, I wrote blog posts for tech companies as "reviews" of the products from the point of view of a random blogger. There are companies that employ folk such as myself, who have contracts with say "Shitty McShitson's Computer Factory" to shill on blogs the company pays exposure for via google adds, and SEO. Even as a part time writer, I still got a percentage of revenue if my "blog post" resulted in a sale. It pays well if you can get them to hire you.

Clooney has his own links to Prince Andy n Epstein....

(Did he sue tho...nope. Wonder why.)

I have said this before, but I always see Suits as ranked among the most-watched shows on various Kodi Addons. In fact, that's the only reason I knew what Suits was. Kodi is a way to watch tv shows for free online, and Addons are a type of black market tv channel.

I can't figure out what kind of people watched Suits. It's probably popular in Romania or Sweden or some other random country where Kodi is widely used.

R543 All of the “companies” she publicised were her friends & none of them were famous, known brands. She may have made something....but millions? Nope.

Did you even look at The Tig? Doesn’t sound like it. Goop it wasn’t.

Let’s say she has $5m in the bank. Actually money. Can’t be wrapped up in property because she owns none....although possibly she was a financial whizz with the markets & has shares. Maybe.

But if we’re basing it on earnings, how much do you think she would have to have earned over the last 10 years to have $5m in the bank?

She has lived a very full life...endless selfies of herself flying the world, showing off her stuff, living the dream. That costs.

She would have to have made a lot more than $5m to have that much left over. So we’re talking multi-millionaire level. An actress with one supporting role and a blog plus a few ads for a Canadian shop? Get real.

R520 - an Art Deco ring with a large marquise cut Ceylon sapphire sounds exquisite. You don't see marquise cuts much any more.

r521 The knives are out for Sparkles. Yet, her sins seem venial. I fear she's being pushed out. I'm lowering her time as part of BRF to less than 2.5 years.

On the Cambridge side, Will is headed to NZ to honor the dead from the terrorist attack. He's not taking Kate. Don't know how long he will be gone. Very convenient to be out of country during the Turnip Toff rumors. Regarding the Marchioness, I wonder if being out the country facilitates the aftermath of ending an affair. We will get news from Down Under abt his activities during off-duty hours?

R521, That article was excellent.

Kate probably isn't accompanying him because of the kids and their schedules and b/c her presence might be an unwanted distraction, with coverage about her hair and clothes rather than the important tragic event that the visit commemorates.

It's more likely Kate has the runs and doesn't want to be far from the shitter.

R548 The Duke of Cambridge will be in one of his grandmother’s realms as her representative at a time of great sorrow there. The rumours (such as they are - they seem to be abating) would continue whether he’s in England or not. And his presence in New Zealand isn’t going to shield him from them (if he needs it which I doubt). NZ is a modern country with access to media. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

Of course knowing some of the more deranged contributors to this thread (not you, R548) I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them now piles on drawing a link between the Christchurch massacre and William’s need for an excuse to be out of the country!

Megs is just. so. odd. That’s why she’s fascinating.

It’s not a compliment.

R471 Not only does MM appear cross-eyed , you notice how bow-legged she is as she comes in. Her left calf bows inward. It may account for her strange gait, so it may not just be that her shoes are ill-fitting and the heels too high.

I don't find MM's Suits co-star sexy at all. This love scene is so awkward and embarrassing --- the smooshing faces and MM's feigned orgasmic, open mouth is laughable.

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R556 That stylist s a mess in every way judging from her photo - her ratty hair being the worst. I hated Kate's pussy bow blouse. It made her look like an 1980s secretary.

Stylist’s shirt is wrinkled in that photo.

So many things said out loud in that Forbes article that has been suppressed in murmurs and disgruntled whisperings. One of the more pointed truisms was where it said MEghan "had her own shadow as Maid of Honor." It is all about MEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

And as FYI to HM's subjects, apparently the DoS pr is under the impression that "if Americans fall in love with her, then the Brits will naturally follow." Because Brits are sheep and really susceptive to American caprice? So much shade.

Brits should have read as British. I'm turning in, long week.

[quote]Also - interesting - a “royal insider” says the palace has a lucrative deal with People Magazine in the hope that if Americans love her, Brits will follow suit. Think Enty told us about this quite some time ago.

[quote] I think the biggest clue that she’s not rich in her own right is that she was never seen in Givenchy & Dior till she married a rich man, didn’t own her own house or car, and didn’t contribute to the wedding

Kate didn't contribute to her wedding. And actually, she'd be damned lucky if she even earned $5,000 during her whole entire lifetime. She was supported completely, 100% by her parents until she was about 30 yrs old. She couldn't even afford to buy a can of soda. She probably had more money saved up as a child from birthday's and Christmas than she earned as an adult. Her parents had to feed and clothe her. The same goes for her useless loser brother and sister, who tried and failed to cash in on their sister's social climbing success

Forgotten Wraiths of my Data Lounge,

The Mater has missed you o'so very much. I now find myself lapping within the equanimously rhadamanthine labyrinth of the supine, for this unto my self is the soulstealth of life-giving. :-( Petty kindnesses, as one is bereft to mention. My Love, he makes no affront to carve out space in which to centre the fecund entity which carries within it the lifeblood of Neue Bvitannia. Mordancy, thine name is me.

Mother is no help! Upon my ruminatively texted queries — oui, my very PLEAS for succor and kind platitudes — met with this perniciousness I am: "Time difference. Sleeping. Love you!" I then query of my own self, why bother to take up stylus in delicate hand and spend my most jejune of the times, by night or by day, to beatifically calligraphise within the box of text? Why? Why in deed??

Mother neither dignifies my query with a heart-felled response nor does she calligraphise back unto me. I have always been within the belief that Mssr's. Jobs and Cooks actualized this box of handwritten-via-stylus text solely for my divine purpose. I do BELIEVE that! The men who stride the Halsapower have always sought my contemporaneous gaze, so focal and non-wonky as it is. Always.

Mother? My Love? No. Wherein they find within their brine-macerated hearts the means to respond, it is with the disgrace of the thumb-typed font. Such pain has never been materialized within me as that taciturned within me by THEM!

My pain-scented tears — so redolent are they of the raw sexuality of raclette sucked from a lover's long finger; the aqueous solution of aspartame; above all else, a chunk of purloined bottarga wrapped in one's doffed Cosabella thong and surreptitiously tucked into the pocket of the objet' of one's d'esire, that glassy crystallinaliazition of Ghost of Paramour Future — yes, these tears floe now.

Hold me, DL. I'm scared! I shan't find even the wherewithal within me with which to actualize my self's much-vaulted and forward-looking Campaign for Umbilical Justice.

#Broken #Haters #HeartHurt #WhyMe

R564 Kate didn’t contribute to her own wedding, but her parent’s did. They paid half. And who has ever suggested that that Kate is/was a millionaire in her own right?

Any more irrelevancies you want to bore us with? Please at least attempt to follow the course of the conversation if you want to interject something.

Kate has nothing to do with whether Markle is a multi-millionaire or not.

I didn’t know Kate’s parents helped pay for her wedding.

I believe they bought her dress, R567. Not sure of any other contributions to it, though.

It's not the palace that has a deal with People, it's Sparkle herself. Watch how People articles stop once her ( I say her, because that dopey ginger cunt is just letting her run the whole show now) offices do move to Buck Palace, and the reigns are pulled.

That Reitmans campaign, can't remember who said it, but apparently " she was the most arrogant woman I've ever had to work with". Seems to be a theme with her.

Say what R569? The Forbes article says BP has the People contract. I doubt any "reigns" will be pulled. I also think you're making a mistake to give Prince a pass because he is driving this car too.

What does this fucking bitch have to be arrogant about? Wait, I know the answer to that. Clueless, loser cunt who sees a cross between Mother Teresa and Angelina Jolie when she gazes in her poisoned mirror.

No one knows exactly how much the Middleton’s paid towards the wedding but it was a significant amount & that was made clear from the very beginning,

Me so horny. Me love you long time. Me sucky sucky.

The Forbes article is gone.

God, there’s that fucking hat again.

My brother says you must never screw the “weird hat girl.” Apparently there’s one in every group.

R575 I thought you were kidding.

But it is truly GONE.

Let the Sunshine....let the Sunshine in....the Sunshine Sachs in.....

R473 - I believe the Middletons paid for Kate's wedding gown (Pippa's as well), which, given that it was bespoke McQueen, must have cost a pretty penny (in the six figures, I'm guessing). Then there were the diamond earrings they had made for her, they paid for that as well, and one night in the largest suite at the Goring Hotel where the family stayed the night before the wedding with attendant services, probably a couple of thousand quid at least. Obviously, they didn't pay for the venue, security, formal reception, or informal party later on.

R577 - Someone should take an ad out saying, "Where has the FORBES article on Meghan Markle gone? Is this censorship by the British Royal Family?"

R572 - "Mirror, mirror, on the wall/Who is princess before all?"

The DoS should've learned from Michelle Obama, who, for her inaugural gowns, picked a young, up and coming designer, Jason Wu. Although I was disappointed with his designs, nevertheless, it was an example of someone with power, using it to benefit someone who needed the exposure.

I'm baffled by the DoS and her not, say, researching UK design schools and their British born students/recent graduates to have them work with her.

That would have been a win-win. She gets some fresh ideas and they get the exposure.

I maintain that the DoS should go full severe. No more flounces, ruffles, froo-froos. If done with wit and flair, she'd certainly carve out a distinct, hip, appropriate style. That's not so say she has to forgo pretty prints and bold colors when the occasion calls for it, but still.

Kate is, at most 5 '10' and 125. She's a human clothing hanger. Everything, therefore, will look good on her. I don't care for the from fitting skinny jeans.

The DoS doesn't work with the limitations of her body proportions. Again, forget trying to wear expensive designer frocks. She needs a young British designer that reveres, say, Yohji Yamamoto and proportion her garments to her body.

R549 - I checked as well and it IS gone. However, FORBES did another snarky article on Meghan in December, and that is still available:

https - www - forbes com sites guymartin 2018-12-31 meghan-markle-in-2019 the-royal-babys-en-route-but-her-courtliness-is-under-the-microscope

" . . . All that, and much, much more has to be laid into the duchess now, and brought to a fine, natural sheen. The process is by no means complete [sic], which makes it such good sport to watch.

The article, however, is mostly cautiously sympathetic but does get a few bits wrong, like this one:

She'll be cut a small, loving break by Fleet Street in the coming weeks, leading up to the royal birth in March, but the duchess' life in the spotlight will be a lot longer, more granular, and more unforgiving than that. Recently dug up is the gleeful abandon with which the duchess and her first husband, Trevor Engleson, larded the gift bags for their wedding party in Jamaica with festive little sachets of marijuana. In a year, that will seem as benign as a picture of the duchess in kindergarten. In football speak, interdicting the opponent's offensive options is an excellent reason, even if there are no others, for her to bring her father and her wacky siblings in from the cold."

Yes, Fleet Street certainly has cut her a small loving break in the weeks leading up to the birth. If that's Fleet Street's view of a "break" we can only imagine what's in store after the christening.

But this is my favourite bit, and it inadvertently makes the case for why Meghan is doing so badly:

". . . It's best to take the long view in family adjustments, and it's also clear that Ms. Markle's warm acceptance into the fold has constituted an extraordinary effort on the part of the royals, from the Queen on down, to make her feel at home. But, for that, the royals and the court itself will expect more than a modicum of "return," in the form of proper royal deportment. Meaning, as in every other family, it's pay to play."

And this is where Meghan's Achilles is. She doesn't believe in "pay to play". She's strictly a "Give me a hand, I'll take the arm" kind of girl.

Only three and a half months separate the two articles.

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Here is the link to Part 33. Please don't begin posting there until this part is finished at 600 posts.

Queen Mary with her only daughter, Princess Mary.

Remembering the Queen Mum who died on this day in 2002 at the age of 101.

The Queen shaking hands with actress Julie Christie with Warren Beatty leering in the background.

Look at the fashions of the royal ladies.

Love this Brexit meme.

Oops, I missed Isla Phillips' birthday on March 29. Here are some photos of her. I especiall love the second to last photo with the barrettes in her hair.

Reposting the Forbes article on Meghan.

The British Royal Family have some of the most confusing guidelines about titles.

*Achilles HEEL . . .

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R588 - I think that photo is from the South Africa tour just before King George VI finallly gave permission for the marriage of Elizabeth and Philip, which was annonced almost as soon as they returned.

R585 - Amazing how much HM looks like her Aunt Mary . . .

Photos of Prince Edward - with and without hair.

Sophie Countess of Wessex wearing a similar wrap dress like Kate's two tone pink number.

For what it's worth, yougov just released a March 2019 popularity polls on the royals, and it is virtually unchanged from last year except that Kate gaine a couple of percentage points from 62% to 64% and Harry and the Queen are now tied. I take these polls with a huge bucket of salt, but for those who care, the March 2019 rankings are:

1. Harry - 72% 2. HMQEII - 72% 3. William - 71% 4. Kate - 64 5. Prince Phillip - 55 6. Meghan - 52 7. Charles - 49 8. Anne - 46 9. Zara - 42 10. Sophie - 29 11. Camilla - 29 12. Edward - 28 13. Eugenie - 25 14. Beatrice - 25 15. Andrew - 23

So for all Meghan's OTT efforts, she's still 12 points behind Kate, and only 6 points behind the 68 year old Pss. Anne.

Charles should take a look at this and realise he should be backing the front runners, not the Sussexes.

Sophie can pull off some HUGE hats like this one.

Sophie’s gown is so much more successful than Kates. Gorgeous blue.

Sadly, I didn’t get to the Forbes article in time. And, sadly, it seems to have been scrubbed entirely from the internet. The Wayback Machine only pulls this up momentarily, and then stalls out. I cannot find the content.