"The new Dumbo is ostentatious and overworked, less a work of imagination than a declaration of how imaginative Burton thinks he is."
So now he's shat on 3 children's classics, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Dark Shadows and Dumbo. 4 if you include Alice in Wonderland, although I personally liked it.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 26, 2019 5:17 PM |
Dark Shadows was a children's show?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 26, 2019 5:39 PM |
Yes, children liked it, regardless of whether their parents approved of them watching it.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 26, 2019 5:42 PM |
I bet it will be decent. It's about a fucking flying elephant. Kids will like it and that's what matters.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 26, 2019 5:50 PM |
I dunno....it seems as if terrible reviews for mass audience films means they do really well.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 26, 2019 6:20 PM |
You defend the remake of [italic]Pete’s Dragon[/italic], you enable this.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 26, 2019 6:33 PM |
The original was one of Disney's most charming pieces of animation. An overblown nearly two-hour Tim Burton remake? No thanks.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 26, 2019 6:45 PM |
No one considers Dark Shadows a children's classic just because some kids watched it here or there.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 26, 2019 6:50 PM |
Not quite sure I would classify Dark Shadows as a children’s show, let alone a classic, but Burton fucked it up so bad that I’ll never see one of his movies again.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 26, 2019 6:52 PM |
Why are Dumbo's eyes blue? I don't get that part. I look forward to Shazam. Great reviews for that flick.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 26, 2019 6:58 PM |
Tim Burton is an aspie tard.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 26, 2019 6:59 PM |
Dumbo without the songs, though.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 26, 2019 7:06 PM |
R1 You forgot Sleepy Hollow and Planet of the Apes.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 26, 2019 7:51 PM |
A great example of something that should NEVER have had one DIME spent to remake it. I take it there were no jive black crows and no hallucinatory "pink elephants on parade" sequence. The original was perfect. Someone should kick Tim Burton in his tiny nuts!
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 26, 2019 7:56 PM |
I think Dark Shadows was mostly watched by children and teens. It had bubblegum cards, even.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 26, 2019 8:00 PM |
Sleepy Hollow's great. Wonderful cinematography by Emmanuel Lubezki and a great score by Elfman. Tons of fun actors in it too and a pleasantly subdued performance by Depp.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 26, 2019 8:08 PM |
This looks boring as shit. It seems like a movie I would fall asleep in. I’m so looking forward to Aladdin and Lion King but not this.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 26, 2019 8:11 PM |
Does Dumbo even talk in this? Do any of the elephants talk? Does Timothee the Mouse speak? If they don’t then this isn’t Dumbo. Can you imagine making The Lion King with none of the animals talking?
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 26, 2019 8:12 PM |
I hate remakes, especially live action ones. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 26, 2019 8:13 PM |
Did Dumbo speak in the original film?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 26, 2019 8:17 PM |
People need to stop hiring Tim Burton.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 26, 2019 8:28 PM |
No, Dumbo doesn't speak in the original.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 26, 2019 8:28 PM |
Do any of the animals speak in the original?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 26, 2019 8:30 PM |
Burton's downfall began with the shitty Mars Attacks - that's when having too much artistic freedom and overblown budgets started getting to his head. He's made a few decent films too since then but it's been well over a decade since his last good live-action film (Sweeney Todd) has been released.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 26, 2019 8:38 PM |
[quote]Do any of the animals speak in the original?
Timothy the Mouse, the nasty lady elephants, the jive-talkin' crows . . .
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 26, 2019 8:39 PM |
I love Mars Attacks.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 26, 2019 8:41 PM |
Mars Attacks is a cult classic.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 26, 2019 8:43 PM |
[quote] less a work of imagination than a declaration of how imaginative Burton thinks he is.
That describes almost everything Burton's done in the last couple decades.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 26, 2019 8:43 PM |
So do Timothee the Mouse, the nasty lady elephants and the jive crows talk in this movie?
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 26, 2019 11:48 PM |
Apparently Timothy Q. Mouse (the character's actual name) isn't even in Burton's movie. I'm guessing there are no talking animals this time around.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 27, 2019 12:07 AM |
Most of his "films" have been abominable, including the unbelievably overrated "Edward Scissorhands".
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 27, 2019 12:14 AM |
I'll be honest. I'll see it for Colin Farrell. Yes, I bet his talent is better showcased in indie movies. Still. For him.
I call it the opposite of boycott.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 27, 2019 11:13 PM |
R32 still a closet case
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 27, 2019 11:45 PM |
The Disney remake gravy train is about to crash!
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 27, 2019 11:55 PM |
Why is Disney releasing 3 major live action classics - Dumbo, Lion King & Alladin - this year? Are they afraid the world is gonna end?
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 28, 2019 12:56 AM |
Nobody cares about movie critics. This turd will make a gazillion dollars and launch endless sequels.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 28, 2019 1:03 AM |
A live action remake of Dumbo actually makes sense as the original could use a weency update.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 28, 2019 1:10 AM |
Tim Burton should be institutionalized. I think that's the only way to keep him from further destroying his reputation.
Dark shadows would've made more money if he had just taken the original camera negative, cut it into 1 inch pieces and sold them as guitar picks.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 28, 2019 10:21 AM |
Dumbo is doing worse than expected calling Disney’s remake heavy tentpole schedule into question
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 29, 2019 8:12 PM |
Seems stupid to eliminate the crows, and especially the mouse.
I did like the new Charlie and the chocolate factory, so I will probably watch this.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 29, 2019 8:36 PM |
Critics are useless, and the masses will flock to stupid shit.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 29, 2019 8:38 PM |
Bambi wherefore art thou? Let's see that hunter kick some mama ass!
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 29, 2019 8:45 PM |
After the trailer that came out 4 months ago, I really wanted to see it. Just the look of it, plus Farrell, Keaton, Devito and Green.
Now they are advertising it with a riff on that M Buffer saying “let’s get ready for dumbo!”, I lost all interest in it.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 29, 2019 9:02 PM |
[quote]I did like the new Charlie and the chocolate factory
Oh, so YOU'RE the one.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 29, 2019 9:04 PM |
R42, Burton should have combined the two movies as Bimbo.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 29, 2019 9:11 PM |
R45, you had me chuckle.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 29, 2019 9:35 PM |
It's all CGI everyone is on a green screen set. Nothing looks real.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 29, 2019 10:27 PM |
And he made Dark Shadows as a comedy. A very unfunny comedy starring that yuckfest Johnny Depp. Ruined it for ever having a great scary version it deserved.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 29, 2019 10:28 PM |
[quote]ostentatious and overworked, less a work of imagination than a declaration of how imaginative Burton thinks he is.
Imo that's true of every Burton film for the last 25 years.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 29, 2019 11:42 PM |
[quote]So now he's shat on 3 children's classics, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Dark Shadows and Dumbo. 4 if you include Alice in Wonderland, although I personally liked it.
Dark Shadows was NOT a children's series. It was a daytime gothic soap opera. Older kids and teens might have watched it, but it sure wasn't meant for kids!
DS was an unintentionally funny soap, with people walking in front of the cameras, the performers forgetting their lines and characters walking into closets instead of out the door. The series was so low budget, the scenes with mistakes were never reshot.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 29, 2019 11:57 PM |
Really can't comprehend why Disney chose to remake this dull cartoon, or maybe any of their mostly dull cartoons with talking animals.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 30, 2019 12:00 AM |
The NY Times DUMBO review was odd, the reviewer seemed to enjoy it, then said it took a dark turn.
Tim Burton has to make everything 'gothic' and downbeat. The producers must have already figured that out before they asked him to make this film.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 30, 2019 12:12 AM |
Yeah well, Dumbo is downbeat to begin with. The title character and his mother endure all manner of indignities throughout the film. Most of Disney's cartoons had a dark side but the bright colors, animation and funny sidekicks were distractions so the kids wouldn't get too scared. I tell ya, I was terrorized when Bambi's mother was shot because "Man was in the forest."
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 30, 2019 12:53 AM |
I didn't mind Dark Shadows. Eva Green was the highlight of that movie.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 30, 2019 2:16 AM |
All I needed to see of the trailer was fucking Danny Devito saying "Whooooooooah!" like he was Macaulay Culkin, or another pre-pubescent child actor, to know I would hate it.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 30, 2019 2:19 AM |
I would like to see it, and I guarantee I will enjoy it. My BF will,. too.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 30, 2019 2:23 AM |
Blu-ray in three months.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 30, 2019 10:52 AM |
This doesn’t make sense. Are his bones hollow like a bird’s? It isn’t physically possible for something as dense as an elephant to fly.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 30, 2019 10:55 AM |
Saw Dumbo last night. Dreadful. Was asked to fill out a survey afterwards so clearly Disney is concerned. Colin is as handsome as ever but fuck’s sake the movie is a dour, joyless CGI mess. Wish Disney wouldn’t stop shitting on their classics.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 30, 2019 12:52 PM |
[quote]Eva Green was the highlight of that movie.
She is the highlight of everything's she's in.
[quote]Wish Disney wouldn’t stop shitting on their classics.
Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella were hits. And there was a 2 year gap bewteen each. I don't understand why they are making things in a hurry and releasing three livre action remakes in the same year. Maybe they have inside intel on a meteot decimating earth or something.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 30, 2019 3:31 PM |
[quote]This doesn’t make sense. Are his bones hollow like a bird’s? It isn’t physically possible for something as dense as an elephant to fly.
He has oversized ears. What's not to understand?
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 30, 2019 3:43 PM |
Budget: $170 million
Domestic gross as of this morning: $15 million
ehhhh
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 30, 2019 4:05 PM |
I think themain appeal for the audience, with the live action remakes, is the princesses stories - Cinderella, Beauty & the Beast etc. I think Alladin and Mulan will be hits. Oh and probably Lion King, but just because the generation in their 20s and 30s grew up watching it.
If they remake Bambi, it will probably flop too.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 30, 2019 4:31 PM |
It's ALL in front of a green screen.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 30, 2019 4:40 PM |
I haven't seen Dumbo, nor do I have the desire to, but I agree with r60. I don't understand why they're releasing The Lion King (also a bad idea) less than two months after Aladdin, which comes only two months after Dumbo. They should have scheduled The Lion King for the Fall or better yet, pushed it back to 2020 and let Aladdin be their summer tent-pole this year along with Toy Story 4. Let these films breath a bit and give the audience a rest from getting overly fatigued by them. I also agree with r63 that the princess stories are probably easier to recreate and have more of a built in audience. These live action CGI fests with anthropomorphic characters can seem really sterile and bloodless because they're overly reliant on green screen storytelling and never capture the magic of their animated counterparts.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 31, 2019 4:48 AM |
Does Colin Farrell wear leotards in it?
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 31, 2019 5:28 AM |
[quote]I think themain appeal for the audience, with the live action remakes, is the princesses stories - Cinderella, Beauty & the Beast etc. I think Alladin and Mulan will be hits. Oh and probably Lion King, but just because the generation in their 20s and 30s grew up watching it. If they remake Bambi, it will probably flop too.
Exactly. I’m excited about Aladdin and The Lion King because I grew up with them. I did not grow up with Dumbo and couldn’t care less about that movie. Same with Bambi. But I would be all over a live action The Little Mermaid! 🧜♀️
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 31, 2019 5:33 AM |
Also, isn’t this Dumbo story completely different than the cartoon? It isn’t faithful to the source material.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 31, 2019 5:35 AM |
Dumbo is a CIS non gender lesbian so this is very worrying for those types of movies going forward. Thoughts and prayers.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 31, 2019 5:37 AM |
"Casey junior's coming down the track, Casey Junior's back, Casey Junior's back. Time for lemonade and crackerjack"
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 31, 2019 6:56 AM |
Tim Burton's a hack. At least johnny fucking Depp isn't in this one.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 31, 2019 6:57 AM |
Saw it today. It's definitely a Tim Burton film. It's half an hour too long, the second half, not true to the source material is unnecessary. It has nods to all the songs but the only one that's performed is 'Baby Mine'. Timothy Q Mouse shows up but has nothing to do. The crows are completely absent. There are other elephants but no mean ladies. The film works best when it trusts the source material, which isn't often.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 31, 2019 7:17 AM |
[Quote] But I would be all over a live action The Little Mermaid! 🧜♀️
I thought that was happening.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 31, 2019 11:32 AM |
It's at #1 with a worldwide gross of $116 million.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 31, 2019 3:48 PM |
[quote]At least johnny fucking Depp isn't in this one.
You know he was just itching to put Depp in the role that ultimately went to Farrell
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 31, 2019 4:31 PM |
I dislike Burton's movies for the most part. Charlie and the Chocolate factory and Alice in wonderland were terrible. For strange and Gothic themed movies I prefer Guillermo del Toro. His films are gorgeous and disturbing but don't make my skin crawl in the way that Burton's do.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 31, 2019 5:07 PM |
Saw it. It's a kid movie. No adult level. It is cute. I was by myself, but the kids in the theater seemed to enjoy it and to be engrossed. Colin Farrell was pretty to look at. Farrell, Green and De Vito do a good job, but it is not the kind of scenario that showcases an actor 's talent.
Acceptable popcorn movie. I wish it got to perform better than Aladdin.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | April 6, 2019 10:33 PM |
I liked it....it was less than what I expected, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. r6...I happened upon Petes Dragon on Netflix and decided to watch it...I never liked the original....I LOVED IT. Different story, but surprisingly good.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | April 6, 2019 11:01 PM |