Albert Finney is DEAD TO ME!

i know the name but i don't k know who the fuck that is.

[quote] i know the name but i don't k know who the fuck that is.

(((((GASP))))))

The Annie Curse claims another victim!

R1 Daddy Warbucks, Ed in Erin Brockovich

He and Glenda Jackson were born only hours apart and she's playing King Lear on Broadway this year... hope she makes it!

So young. My deepest condolences go to his parents.

RIP.

He was in one of the Bourne movies right? I liked him.

EBENEZER SCROOGE!!!

Another link

Aw. RIP Mr. Finney.

5 Oscar noms: Tom Jones, Murder on the Orient Express, The Dresser, Under the Volcano, Erin Brockovich.

Marvelous in Two for the Road, Big Fish, etc.

R1, in addition to the two roles listed by R4, add the male leads in Tom Jones, Two for the Road, Scrooge, The Dresser (co-lead), Murder on the Orient Express, many more and roles in continual work on stage.

Corpse Bride!!

Two for the Road is my favorite film of his.

The titles listed at the start of this thread suggest a high level of success in the third act of his career.

"The Dresser" is one of my top 3 favorite movies of all time. He was simply magnificent in that role.

The traditional cunty R1 has been replaced with the new and improved idiotic r1, I see.

Shoot the Moon was not a great movie, but his performance was fantastic.

He was a goddamned legend in Miller's Crossing and Tom Jones.

more votes for The Dresser and 2 for the road and shoot the moon......he was a great actor. RIP Mr. Finney.

Albert finney, Tom Cortney and Alan Bates—I always get them mixed up, they blur into the same person for some reason

Tom Courtenay*

I loved him in Big Fish too!!!! Sniff.

I loved him in "Two For the Road" and "Shoot the Moon".

One of the hottest men ever to hit the screen - a one-off and fantastic actor. Remember being a young teen and seeing "Tom Jones" when it came out in London and spending weeks stupefied with unholy lust.

RIP Albert.

He played a closeted 1960s bus driver in A Man of No Importance (1994). It was also Jonathon Rhys Meyer's first film role.

I know it is not considered a good film, but I have a soft spot for Scrooge - watched it with my Mom many times over the holidays. I thought he did a good job playing old Scrooge and was kind of hot as young Scrooge.

Big Fish is a movie I have been meaning to watch for years.

I thought he died years ago. He and Eva Gabor made a great team.

He'll always be an Angry Young Man to me.

I am in the minority in that I loved his Poirot, who I found to be both funny and other-worldly.

And as a contrast to the ham Branagh, Finney made all his scenes with the suspects collaborations. Everyone was aging in that movie, largely because they were playing off him. Ingrid Bergman won an Oscar for her interrogation with him, where he was mostly off-camera. But the tense energy he contributed made her, and everyone else, a better actor.

Tom Jones is on TCM right now.

One of the early Angry Young Brits in movies, in "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning"

I guess few here saw Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, which really launched his film career. If you haven't, I highly recommend it. Also with the fab, crazy, and talented Rachel Roberts.

Back in the 70s he played Hamlet at the National Theater in a Peter Hall production with DL fave Angela Lansbury as Gertrude. He was good (not great), and she was much better than I expected.

YES YES YES to R13. Two for the Road.

Now this is from another of his movies. Iconic.

So good and heartbreaking in The Dresser.

31 replies and no mention of Wolfen? Shameful.

As Scrooge

In "The Big Fish" he showed how much better the British are at doing an American southern drawl than most non southern Americans.

Didn’t Shelley Winters have an affair with him?

Night Must Fall

He and Audrey Hepburn had great chemistry in "Two For the Road" and according to co-star William Daniels, they were having a fling off-camera. The Henry Mancini score is one of the most romantic film scores ever written.

R33 - Ah, "Wolfen" never gets the credit it deserves for being a first-class horror/sci-fi/crime blend!

"Saturday Night and Sunday Morning" was one of of two of my favourite Reisz films, the other one being the unique and matchless "Morgan"/

Charlie Bubbles with Liza.

R36 - The question is, who didn't Shelley Winters have an affair with?

He also directed Charlie Bubbles.

It's always the same post, OP..... "dead to me" and it's old and tired, like you, you big queen.

R43 - What would DL be without old and tired Big Old Queens?

"TOWEL TOWEL TOWEL"!!

^bump lol

Called Audrey a bitch in TFTR. That was a first in film.

[quote]The traditional cunty [R1] has been replaced with the new and improved idiotic [R1], I see.

Sad, isn't it?

Wolfen was mentioned upthread. My suggestion is to those of us New Yorkers who were born in the 50s and 60s to honor this splendid actor by watching Wolfen tonight -- the movie is extremely evocative of New York in the early 1980s. It's also very hard to peg -- is it horror? Mystery? Sci-fi? It's a gorgeous movie, sometimes genuinely scary, and quite nostalgic.

I worked as crew on The Bourne Legacy, the last film he shot in the US. The word which keeps coming to mind when I think about him was “delightful.” He was sweet, funny and always seemed delighted to be doing something he loved. I actually sort of fell in love with him. Everybody on the crew adored him for good reason. He’d better get paid a significant tribute at the BAFTAs on Sunday night. And he thoroughly deserves to be the final one shown at the In Memoriam at the Oscars.

Wolfen, a really pretty good movie, would pair up well with The Eyes of Laura Mars, not such a good movie, but both very evocative of New York before social media, smartphones, or even common personal computers.

No love for [italic]Looker[/italic]?

Musical Scrooge! I have made that my must see at the holidays for years.

Finney's best: Two for the Road, The Dresser

That movie, more than Roman Holiday, is why I will always adore Audrey Hepburn.

In the early days of cable Shoot the Moon seemed to run on a loop.

R43 It's a DL meme.

You're not suggesting that the same person is posting all the Dead To Me posts, are you? Nobody is that stupid, are they?

Big fan of his. Almost always the best part of any film he was in. I wanna see Charlie Bubbles and Night Must Fall considering I’ve seen most of his films. Like Glenn Close, many Oscar noms but never the front runner.

He also played the hermitic caretaker of the Skyfall estate.

Miller's Crossing

I'm really upset about this. He was one of my favourite actors of all time.

He was a sensational actor and always a presence in any film. He had impeccable timing, even when his delivery seemed ad-libbing.

Albert Finney was excellent in so many films - Tom Jones, The Dresser, Under the Volcano, A Man of No Importance, Shoot the Moon, Big Fish, Erin Brockovich, etc., etc.

One of my all-out favourite Albert Finney performances was in the underrated The Browning Version (which I believe came out the same year as his excellent performance as an Irish gay bus conductor in A Man of No Importance) - 1994, I believe?

Linked a scene from The Browning Version that is testament to his subtlety and emotional depth as an actor.

RIP Albert Finney - and thank you so much.

MARY!

[quote]I wanna see Charlie Bubbles

prepare to be disappointed.

You beast.

i had an irish BF who was a dead ringer for young Finney. Memories...

Great actor RIP

We are deeply saddened to hear of the passing of Albert Finney. The recipient of the BAFTA Fellowship in 2001, Finney will be warmly remembered for his powerful performances in Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, Tom Jones, Big Fish and many more.

We are deeply saddened to hear of the death of Albert Finney. He was a huge part of the National Theatre acting company from its early days in Chichester and performed many roles over the years, including Hamlet which opened the Lyttelton Theatre in 1976.

I remember seeing SHOOT THE MOON with my Aunt Denise when I was about 10 years old. And then seeing ANNIE a few weeks later with my Mom. Then putting together that the father in both was the same man and thinking - wow, that’s what acting means. Thank you, Albert Finney. 🙏🏾

The five-time Oscar nominee made his screen debut in Tony Richardson's "The Entertainer" in 1960. His last role was in "Skyfall."

arewell to one of the greatest actors, Albert Finney. His extraordinary performance in TOM JONES is one for the ages.

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I loved him in this with DL fave Joanna Lumley - which also showed how SHE could act

[quote]I'm really upset about this. He was one of my favourite actors of all time.

He had a great run and left a prolific body of work that's highly regarded. Not much else a body can do.

He was front and center in one of my favorite scenes from any movie, the Danny Boy scene from "Miller's Crossing."

i was thinking just this morning how few "famous" deaths there have been recently.

Albert Finney loved making Millers Crossing so much he stayed after wrap to be a female maid extra.

"I'm only happy in character roles. I'm not the romantic type."

"I don't think that we necessarily lie. I mean, we make our living by pretending that we're someone else. I don't tell tall tales. I always tell the truth." #RIP Albert Finney, a creative, honest, and always compelling actor who made his every film worth watching.

OMG thanks R75, that's so funny and charming a story.

All those English "angry young men" actors in the 60s were so great: Terence Stamp, Peter O'Toole, Michael Caine, Sean Connery, Tom Courtenay, Richard Harris and Albert Finney.

Kitchen sink dramas.

Terence Stamp was never much of an actor.

I thought Terence Stamp was French.

NO, R82

Terence Stamp is The Limey.

TCM, God love them, shows SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING once in awhile, and hopefully will put it on the schedule pretty soon. It's really good. There's a scene with a gay couple who own an antique store and who are seen walking this big white fluffy poodle. Lots of exteriors of slummy London neighborhoods; portrays sex and abortion that was pretty shocking for 1961. All those British b&ws really get under your skin.

You’d never guess he was English by his teeth.

Not trying to be funny, but really thought he'd already passed. He was great in Miller's Crossing.

[quote]TCM, God love them, shows SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING once in awhile, and hopefully will put it on the schedule pretty soon. It's really good. There's a scene with a gay couple who own an antique store and who are seen walking this big white fluffy poodle. Lots of exteriors of slummy London neighborhoods; portrays sex and abortion that was pretty shocking for 1961.

Odd, considering it was shot in Nottingham.

Joanna Lumley will be hosting the BAFTAs on Sunday so I think it’s safe to say she will at least mention Finney. I’m sure she adored him like everyone else did.

Just posted on YouTube - a rare TV interview.

When Marcia Gay Harden told her father she'd gotten the part in [italic]Miller's Crossing[/italic], he was really impressed that she'd be working with Albert Finney because he was Tom Jones, after all. She mentioned that to Finney, not aware of the movie and thinking it was a reference to the singer. Finney was a good sport and started singing "It's Not Unusual" in his best Tom Jones imitation.

You didn't have to have been born in New York City in the 1950s to appreciate "Wolfen" (said the Brit) anymore than you have to have been born in the industrial Midlands of England to appreciate "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning". Naturally, you may have a special sensibility for both movies if you're from the area, but it's not a given.

In fact, I'd guess that people born to ordinary folk on the Lower East Side in the 1950s might appreciate SNASM more than a British aristo born in a posh area of London in the 1950s.

Just saying . . .

The only time I've cried in a theater.

[quote]And he thoroughly deserves to be the final one shown at the in Memoriam at the Oscars.

And they better not pull that "too late, the reel's already in the can" crap.

Thanks, R90.

R93 That scene, and the last scene in "Field of Dreams," when Costner and his father play catch. My own dad died at 59, when I was 25, so obviously I've got some kind of issues....but I do think most scenes are beautifully done (and "Big Fish" an unexpectedly wonderful film, anchored in Finney's epic, but deeply human performance).

This scene from "Scrooge" always put a lump in my throat; now it's even more poignant.

Also, Finney was turning down knighthoods before it was fashionable. Too bad; "Sir Albert Finney" has a nice ring to it.

I loved him in anything he did. I liked the humorous, sarcastic side of him too.

RIP Albert Finney. You were appreciated by many.

I think he had a working class background and it was that background which informed his decision to call knighthoods and such for the bullshit it is.

My God. Him with Tom courtenay in The Dresser" showing that one plus one can equal 6 .

My God. Him with Tom courtenay in The Dresser" showing that one plus one can equal 6 .

Not surprised he turned down a knighthood. Like Paul Scofield, it seemed like his style.

He was very low key. Lived in a seaside town in England.

A real actor's actor, a real artist.

I loved him as Poirot.

Wonderful actor who left a legacy of outstanding performances.

Especially love “Saturday Night and Sunday Morning” — he and Shirley Anne Field were a great couple.

Dated DL fave Carly Simon!

I'm interested in seeing a TV movie he co-directed and starred in called The Biko Inquest. I wonder if it is any good. It surely can't be worse than Cry Freedom.

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Finney was younger than Hepburn and looked it too in TFTR. They seemed a least a generation apart vibe and appearance wise in that film.

He was a great actor

Larry King Live: "We're all shocked and saddened by the sudden deaths of Tom Jones and Laura Linney on the same day. We have Jack Nicholson on the phone. Jack, you worked with Tom on the set of An American Werewolf in London in the early 80s. Did he look sick to you then?"

Well, that sucks. My dad had a huge man crush on him with Anouk Aimee!

I didn't like Two For The Road. Audrey was too weepy.

But loved Tom Jones.

I confuse him with Peter Finch.

The sensuous eating scene from Tom Jones.

[quote]And he thoroughly deserves to be the final one shown at the In Memoriam at the Oscars.

Is there enough time to include him. or have they already finished editing it?

R115 it’s over two weeks off I say yes. Anouk Aimée left him for Ryan O’Neal which is interesting. She pulled in some hot cock.

Before The Devil Knows Your Dead -/- excellent and often overlooked film. With Philip Seymour Hoffman, Olympia Dukakis, Marisa Tomei, Ethan Hawke.

Brilliant movie told in flashbacks. One of the last scenes (won’t give plot away), “What some people won’t do for money...” Just see the movie

I’d forgotten about that one, R117 — fine film!

R60. He seems to have retained his integrity through his long patchy, perverse career.

He appeared in some minor American junk films but he rose above them.

5 Oscar nominations and no wins.

I know how he feels.

^ Finney was the reverse of O'Toole who misbehaved and shouted monotonously.

He got into each character he played. Finney said no to Hollywood and the celebrity life.

He was determined not to be typecast.

I love my life!

Has Erin Brockovick commented?

R121, yes, Finney was not a publicity whore like so many young actors of today's generation are.

He was a serious actor.

I think O'Toole was for the most part, too. He did phone it in for a while during the middle decades of his career, but he had a powerful presence on film from Lawrence of Arabia in the 1960's to a few of his final roles like 'Venus' (his final Oscar nomination).

Wasn't Albert family?

Extraordinary actor.

Guilty pleasure is my yearly holiday screening of Scrooge.

R124 Thank you for your calm response.

But I've spoken to Englishmen who've told me that O'Toole was inept on stage.

His late 60's Hamlet was a disaster at the National. They had to find a play called "Jeffrey Bernard Is Unwell" about a drunk to cover for O'Toole's lapses.

I agree Finney didn't do too much stage work in his latter years but he must have been good if Olivier chose him (amongst others) as his successor to manage the National.

R 125 Name your sources.

R125, I've never heard any gay rumors about Finney.

He was married to 3 women, but you never know, I suppose.

Charles Laughton saw Finney in rep in Birmingham and helped him get cast at Stratford in 1959. A few years later when Laughton was dying in Los Angeles, his wife Elsa Lanchester told Finney that Laughton would want him to visit him so he could study a dying man and "draw from this experience" as an actor in future performances. So Finney did come and sit with Laughton, who was too far gone to know Finney was present.

I agree Finney was magnificent in "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead". "Rich in Love" isn't much of a movie, but Finney is simply wonderful as a retired South Carolina businessman who is at a loss when his wife disappears. "Under the Volcano" too: unforgettable portrait of an alcoholic who knows he is doomed.

R.I.P. Thanks for these performances and so many others.

I forget who I heard this from (it was probably one of my UK friends) but the story goes that sonetime in his 20s Finney did try the homosex once just to see if he was at all inclined but found it not to be for him so that was it. I wonder who the lucky guy was. Maybe Alan Bates?

Damn, one of my all time favorite actors. Albert Finney was one of the few, who never gave a bad performance regardless of quality of the film. And note the Gary Oldman, that’s how you do Churchill.

I liked him in Wolfen.

I agree that Finney's performance of Churchill was better than Oldman's.

But I think Finney's Churchill was for a TV Movie, so it didn't get the same attention.

R133, I believe he did win the Emmy for the role. It just has to be said he did the better Churchill. Yah, I’m being petty, but I love Finney.

[quote]All those English "angry young men" actors in the 60s were so great: Terence Stamp, Peter O'Toole, Michael Caine, Sean Connery, Tom Courtenay, Richard Harris and Albert Finney.

I hope you meant to say BRITISH, not ENGLISH.

[quote]Nobody is that stupid, are they?

Did you somehow miss the last Presidential election?

Yes, R135, Connery certainly considers himself a Scotsman.

And Peter O'Toole and Richard Harris were neither English nor British.

I have no memory of Connery or Caine or Stamp doing the Angry Young Man films of the late 1950s and early 1960s. Harris, Courtenay, Burton, Finney, Bates - David Warner, too, if you want to count Reizs's "Morgan", yes, but that's 1966 already - not the others.

Look Back in Anger was 1959, SN&SM 1960, Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner 1962, Harris's This Sporting Life 1963. If you want to count Caine you could mention "Alfie" but that's already into the Swingin' London era (which for my sins I remember well) - 1966. Even if you want to count Caine's turn as the anti-007 Harry Palmer, it's 1965.

The Angry Young Man era was really a short-lived one, 1959-1963.

R139, you forgot The Angry Silence with Oliver Reed.

The Angry Young Men claimed to be young and vital.

They were determined to kill off the well-behaved homosexuals Noel Coward, Terence Rattigan and Binkie Beaumont.

Unfortunately those Angry Young Men quickly turned middle-aged— and half of them turned into old queens themselves.

R140 - Was Reed in that? I thought it was someone else but you're right, I forgot it.

R139

Has Susan Dey commented?

Terence Rattigan was far more critical of the establishment than Coward and Beaumont - it's true his meticulous style suffered when the AYM films came in, but I wouldn't put him in Coward's class - I thought him a more accomplished serious writer, and I say that with all respect to Coward.

What is this nonsense about the Academy being unable to put Finney in the death montage if it’s already been assembled? Is this not the 21st Century? Is it not Hollywood, ground zero for innovation in film? For Christ sake, I could add him to the montage on my iPhone in 10 seconds. There’s no reason they can’t.

R142, he had a small role in it. The leads were Richard Attenborough, Pier Angeli and Alfred Burke. Brian Bedford and Brian Murray, who both went on to distinguished stage careers in the US, were also in it.

Yes R144. 'Meticulous' is the 'mot juste' for Rattigan.

'The Winslow Boy' is a masterpiece.

R146 - Thanks. I don't think I've seen it but once and that a long time ago. The others, more famous, are more frequently revisited.

Even though is smack in the middle of the Swingin' London era, I might include Bates's character in "Georgy Girl".

I loved him. Great actor of his generation and he had such a distinction of class, intelligence his movies will blaze on.

R147 - I agree. And I thought the 1999 remake quite good, particularly Jeremy Northam in the Robert Donat role of the barrister. Northan's career in my view should have been better, as an aside.

Rattigan was a tailgunner in WWII.

Miss R136

Touché.

Great scene from Shoot the Moon.

R.I.P.

R145, I don't know. But in previous years we've been told by the Academy that it was too late to add someone, so that's why people here are bringing it up.

[91}: Marcia Gay Hardon is obviously an idiot.

Al Pacino was originally supposed to play the father in Shoot the Moon with Lisa Lucas as the oldest daughter.

He lost his looks SO EARLY thanks to chain smoking and boozing it up.

Al Pacino would have ruined that film. Shoot the Moon was exquisite. With the best work Finney ever did and the 2nd best work Keaton ever did. And Dana Hill should have been nominated for Supporting Actress. Hell, even Karen Allen was great.

Agreed, R158, Al Pacino would have ruined “Shoot the Moon” with his scenery chewing and overacting.

[quote]No love for Looker?

Bitch, I loved that movie! That was an HBO staple one summer, lord knows how many times I’ve seen it.

Thanks for the reminder about BEFORE THE DEVIL KNOWS YOU'RE DEAD. What a great, great film that was. Every performance right on point.

Just re-watched TOM JONES tonight, in memory of the great Albert Finney.

Looking back on it now, I think it may have been the first film to actually SEXUALIZE "the Male" for me. Yes, there were hot & hunky men in films before, but I think TOM JONES was the first film that actually made a male into an unapologetic figure of desire & lust. I know that I responded, and that, as an incipient gayling, TOM JONES was an integral part of my development.

RIP Albert Finney.

'I can't call you Albert and Al doesn't feel right. What shall I call you?' How about Mr. Finney, he told Liza. She laughed and said, 'Look buster, you want me in a love scene in my drawers, so I'm not calling you Mr. Finney, I know. I'll call you Birdie.' That's not my name, Finney said. "It is to me, Birdie."

[quote]He lost his looks SO EARLY thanks to chain smoking and boozing it up.

Same thing happened to Peter O'Toole.

157 - At least he had then to lose. Unlike the "pretty boys" who curate until only string and twine is left to use on their faces.

But Mr Finney NEVER lost the twinkle in his eye. And the always handsome Paul Newman wouldn't have been so if he hadn't had a twinkle in his baby blues, either. "Looks" are only ever a part of "it". And for about ninety percent of the world, probably including you and I, thank God for that!

r34

The only REAL Scrooge is Alistair Sims or Reginald Owen or Laurence Olivier

Even though it has almost been 40 years. I will never forget I really enjoyed my experience of working with Albert Finney. He was a wonderful actor and man may he Rest In Peace.

Julia summed it up in her oscar speech " why doesnt he make more movies...i love him".... Daddy Warbucks...to Skyfall....he was an Actor first then a Star....how its MEANT to be.... RIP

Please stop ragging on Peter O’Toole.

I don't think Washington Square has been mentioned, though of course The Heiress didn't need to be remade, especially not with Jennifer Jason Leigh peeing on the carpet.

5 nominations without a win. how tragic.

R166 - and I wouldn't even include Olivier. It's Owen or Sim, hands down - with respect to the work Finney did in "Scrooge".

Some Americans who have a fondness for that Reginald Owen "A Christmas Carol" may not know that the actor playing Bob Cratchit, Gene Lockhart, was the father of actress June Lockhart, who would later become immortalised as the Mum in the long-running television series, "Lassie".

Explemplary career marred only by never having had a nude fireside wrestling scene with an Alan Bates and/or Oliver Reed

exemplary*

[quote]But I've spoken to Englishmen who've told me that O'Toole was inept on stage. His late 60's Hamlet was a disaster at the National.

In Peter O'Toole's Henry Higgins in Pygmalion with John Thaw as Alfred Doolittle, Thaw wiped him off the stage in their scene. Ot'Toole also indulged in a ghastly bit of scene stealing, talking his shoes off and picking at his toes. The other actors were bemused.

R175 - I'd heard the same thing about Daniel Day-Lewis, although never had the chance to see for myself - that he was uncomfortable onstage, his real metier, despite his creds, was film.

A friend had booked to see DDL in Hamlet. As fate would have it, it was the day after his nervous breakdown and the understudy Jeremy Northam performed and he loved him ever since.

As with Peter O'Toole, alcohol destroyed Albert Finney's looks.

I once read that "Tom Jones" was the last movie JFK ever watched.

LOL r152

“Stop it George, she’d rather fuck Frank!”

I love SHOOT THE MOON. It’s reminds me of my parents arguing, which they didn’t do in public or indeed very often, but both had no problem telling each other how deeply offended they were by each other and insisted on getting the last word.

“Orphans” with Matthew Modine!

The great Finney was responsible for TWO of the finest careers in film in the last 50 years: His own and Peter O'Tooles' after Finney turned down LOA

Albert Finney and Audrey Hepburn in 'Two For The Road' (1967)

Best Churchill I've seen. Gary Oldman my ass.

Finney was first choice for Lawrence if Arabia?

Bye

Dammit! *of* Arabia.

He was never gorgeous or even classically handsome, but what he did have was what someone upthread called the twinkle in his eye that he never lost - and what someone else upthread pointed out as something inherently male and sexual in his presence.

His boyish randiness of Tom Jones led Easily into Two for the Road, where he started out slyly sexy and edged slowly into a comfortable middle-aged sensuality.

As his lead actor days waned and his looks faded into old age, he never lost that odd appeal that seems to come from within. I remember at the close of Skyfall, when he appeared under a wooly layer of beard, I thought, holy fuck, is that Albert Finney? Of course. Who better to link the desperate present to a forgotten past? He’s got a whole story in his eyes.

Many thanks to the poster who gave the link to "Saturday Night and Sunday Morning" upthread. I've been wanting to see it again!

Does anyone have a link to "Two for the Road"?

Proof of Finney’s amazing versatility, less than ten years after “Tom Jones”! (And a shout-out to the jaunty Anton Rodgers, too!)

I thought he was absolutely gorgeous, would take him over the likes of pretty boys like John Gavin any day.

r181 = Jiminy Glick

As a young lad I rubbed one out to TOM JONES and SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING.

RIP you handsome lug.

[quote]" … he dies, a part of me dies … his refusal to accept a Knighthood - that moronic delusion of inclusion - elevates him further in the Arts and humanities. Albert was Manchester. Please watch Charlie Bubbles. … … there must be something I can dream tonight … "

[quote]Please stop ragging on Peter O’Toole.

I think most people here like O'Toole.

A poster above was just pointing out that O'Toole went through a bad period in his middle decades in film (mainly the 1970's & '80's). He had a big drinking problem and had to have part of his stomach or gall bladder removed.

O'Toole was great in his 1960's films (eg. Lawrence of Arabia, Beckett, The Lion in Winter, etc.) and also gave some strong performances in his final decade (eg. Venus in 2006, which was his 8th Oscar nomination).

I saw O'Toole in the production of Pygmalion in the production R175 mentioned. I was in one of the first few rows, and I remember a lot of spitting.

R76 He was like Olivier in that he often hid under make-up in his big films. And he also played ordinary people in smallish films.

He was a bit perverse (like Paul Scofield). And he liked Older Women (his first two wives were both older)

R90 His interviews are indeed rare. And he hated the celebrity scene (as exemplified by the oily, ghastly GraemeNorton.

He was NOT a Luvvie!

R130 Silly gossip like this is useless without sources

R157, R188 He was never particularly handsome. He had a manly demeanour with baggy eyes and a Wendy Hiller nose.

R162 He played a sex-object in ‘Tom Jones’ because it was created by homosexual TonyRichardson.

R157, R178 he obviously smoked but I have never seen any reference to his drinking like those alcoholics O’Toole, Harris and Burton.

R185 Finney was paid an exorbitant sum to do screen tests for ‘Lawrence’.

R196 Yuck!

Well, I’m so freaking glad O’Toole got the Lawrence gig!

R198, as Noel Coward said, O'Toole was so pretty as Lawrence that it should have been called "Florence of Arabia":

Smell YOU, R197. You think you’re the man with all the answers? Give me a fucking break.

Finney WAS considered handsome back in the day. He’d never have been cast in Tom Jones if he wasn’t. He had to be approved by STUDIO EXECS, not just “homosexual Tony Richardson.” That comment alone renders YOU useless.

R200 Tony Richardson already directed Finney on stage and in his first film.

There were no "STUDIO EXECS" on 'Tom Jones'. It was produced by "Woodfall Films" in John Osborne's living room in Woodfall Street London and two-thirds of the cast were friends and lovers from Richardson's stage company.

I could have sworn he died in the 1990s. Oh well, RIP.

In Peter Nichols "A Day in the Death of Joe Egg" on Broadway in 1968.

R201 'Tom Jones' was like a home movie by a group of talented people (half of whom were sleeping together). They did it cheaply shooting it in the country with (I think) no studio sets.

Albert in drag—

Albert & Wendy take the Orient Express. Great actors, both.

[R81]

I'll see your "Terence Stamp wasn't much of an actor" and raise you a "Spirits of the Dead" and "The Collector".

Watch those and open your eyes.

Stamp should've been recognized for either of those roles.

Another film in which he performed the perfect southern drawl was "Rich in Love." The movie was a C- overall, but he was great in it. One would think that American actors would do a decent job of the typical Charleston type accent, but they don't. They always over ham it and end up sounding comical.

And don't get me started on how they butcher the New Orleans accent(which, granted, is not truly southern.)

Looking at you Kevin Costner in JFK. At least Tommy Lee Jones did not make a fool of himself.

R113 I thought your comment yesterday was ignorant but now, after watching some clips overnight, I agree that vocally he could be confused with Peter Finch.

And both Finney and Finch had the same bushy eyebrows in their latter years

He was pure sex in Tom Jones.

I fear Vanessa is next to go into 'that Great Goodnight'.

She is next to 'cross the bourne'.

He played Billy Liar on stage; Tom Courtenay got the role in John Schlesinger's movie.

R212 (I've always admired Finney but always considered Courtenay as the second-choice weed)

He appeared on Broadway twice, and was nominated for a Tony both times. (Luther and Joe Egg).

^ he looks like fun in that picture.

(I never understood what's the point of John Osborne's play 'Luther'. I don't think Osborne was much interested in Lutheranism, Catholicism or Protestantism.

He was told he had a talent for fulmination which he made use of in that (rather dreary) "Look Back In Anger' and a great deal afterwards but he was a cantankerous, wife-hating, drunk from 1965 until his death.)

Speaking of Tom Courtenay & Peter O'Toole, they both appeared together in the 1960's film, "Night of the Generals".

Tom Courtenay has had a very recent screen resurgence with 45 YEARS and winning a BAFTA for his season of UNFORGOTTEN. I think he had the advantage of being mobile after his cancer bout and remaining slim.

Finney was absolutely handsome - that impish smile, tall and rugged - I'd hardly call him anything else, even if the looks wore off early.

And as far as noses go, please rememer that O'Toole had quite the conk and he got the nose done specifically to up his chances for getting Lawrence. It changed his look completely. But if you can find early images of him in, for example, the version of "Kidnapped" he made before getting "big", you can see who really had the nose. That nose job O'Toole got for Lawrence virtually gave him the next stage of his career.

This obituary thread must be a DL novelty.

We've reached 218 posts and not one whiff of negativity or scandal (apart from his Wendy Hiller nostrils).

This obituary thread for Alan Bates reached 353 posts— but Bates did have some kind of strangled gay sex life.

I liked his hard boiled,rough exterior to Julia Robert’s naivety. He seemed like a fun friend to party and converse with. See you when it’s my time.

He really took himself out of the business for years at a time, multiple times. So there isn’t considerably much filmed before his prettiness settles into huskiness.

I also liked The Browning Version. He’s a total heartbreaker.

Slutty Diane Keaton nailed him on the set of Shoot The Moon.

R81:

Stamp was a blank faced beauty. A fashion model. Not fit to lick Finney’s boots.

Interesting how Bates wound up with the movie version of JOE EGG (he was excellent too).

Albert Finney and Glenda Jackson were born on the same day in the same year. They also both turned down honors from the queen because of working class pride.

Here they are on the picket lines:

R197, I've seen the term "luvvie" before - what does it mean?

R228, it’s a term for show biz folk who flutter aroubd calling people “darling,” “sweetbeart,” “luvvy” and other terms of endearment. Hints at a sort of fakeness.

I read once that Finney wisely decided to not join Oliver Reed and Richard Harris on pub crawls because he wanted to live longer. Smart move.

A Rolling Stone article around the time of Shoot The Moon.

His housemate (or “housemate”) was a post-Brideshead Diana Quick.

He seemed like he had the emotional ups and downs but after his first failed marriage tried not to inflict his depression on anyone or go too nuts with the self-medicating.

A FB friend once lived near Albert Finney and he told me he loved Finney. One time Finney showed up at his front door and yelled “PLEASE TURN DOWN THAT FUCKING ABBA CRAP!”

R225 - I think you're right he was no Finney but calling him a blank-faced beauty is debatable. He was very good in "The Collector", "The Limey" "Priscilla Queen of the Desert" "Far From the Madding Crowd" - it's a respectable enough filmography.

I respectfully disagree, R232. I couldn’t stand him getting acclaim/nominations for Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. He is completely blank faced during that entire film. He showed absolutely no range or emotion whatsoever. He made a good General Zod, though.

Anouk Aimee, Finney's second wife, left him for Ryan O'Neal.

I’ll say one thing for Stamp - he as better than Laurence Harvey, who was undoubtedly the worst of the Angry Young Men. He was so shit he made Dirk Bogarde look straight in DARLING.

But yeah, Albert Finney shone far brighter.

Terence Stamp was mentored early on by the same admiring queen who mentored Laurence Harvey, producer James Woolf.

You're right, r235, Harvey was the worst, but Stamp was painfully self-conscious and artificial in his own wooden way. Not a flicker of humor or intelligence or life force, as displayed for example by the lovely Albert Finney. Not a drop of acting talent, either.

Stamp was basically a cardboard cutout who embodied the ideal face and fashion of London men in the Sixties. To be working-class was fashionable then, so Tugboat Tel was in. His personality and affect were so blank that Jean Shrimpton famously said that she only went out with him because he was so good-looking, and now she can't understand why she stayed with him for so long. She found him terribly dull; she was alternately puzzled and bored to tears by his blankness and lack of culture.

[quote]so Tugboat Tel was in.

What's Tugboat Tel?

R236, Brits have an annoying tendency to make cutesy shortcuts of names. In this case “Terence” becomes “Tel.” I hate it when Garry is turned into “Gel” and “Gazza.”

R238 OK, thanks. But I still don't get "Tugboat"?

Stamp's father was a tugboat captain on the Thames, r237. The London papers called Terry "Tugboat Tel" as a little dig at his class origins.

R240 Thanks again. The London papers are as pointlessly bitchy as DL.

Amazing, isn't how, how loved and admired Finney was? In all the papers and on forums like these, famous people and ordinary people alike are bowled over remembering how great he was and grieving his loss. He was always one of my very favorite English actors.

R242, he was a genuinely lovely man. I’m not surprised by the heartfelt emotion following his death.

That “Rolling Stone” article at R230 was so L-O-N-G — could have been pared down considerably!

Was Finney wearing toupees as early as Shoot the Moon ('82) and Under the Volcano ('85)? Thanks for anyone in the industry sharing info.

[quote]I respectfully disagree, [R232]. I couldn’t stand him getting acclaim/nominations for Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. He is completely blank faced during that entire film. He showed absolutely no range or emotion whatsoever.

I think Stamp was hired mainly to look regal and lofty in that movie, which he did well enough.

R246, yeah, he had that quality down pat but I didn’t give a fuck about what happened to his character. They really missed the boat in that regard, in my opinion. That character should break your heart and he sure didn’t break mine.

Stepan Elliot wanted Tony Curtis for Priscilla but his wife wouldn’t let him. It would have been a different performance, certainly a bigger one. On the upside, Terence Stamp insisted Bill Hunter was cast as his love interest.

In one of the documentaries, Guy Pearce rolled his eyes that Terence played the transsexual but he was the only one among them who refused to do the tuck. Also he wanted to look like Jacqueline Bisset and was super depressed the he looked like what he claimed was an old trout.

It must be weird to be so beautiful that it makes so so fucking neurotic about how you look.

R248 You mention the word 'neurotic'.

I notice that Albert Finney uses the word 'neurotic' twice in this compilation of interviews from right at the beginning of his career.

Albert Finney was to Terence Stamp what kerosine oil is to skimmed milk. As for acting, one would think that having an expressive face would be a large part of it. Mr Finney had that down pat. I'd have loved to have had a conversation with him or be in a room hearing him conversing and I don't do that "acolyte" shit. But he is one of two famous people , now both dead, who I would have humbled myself for. Usually it's just "the works" that impress me about an artiste. The vast majority of them, bad and good come off as the craziest of the crazy, not to be touched by a bargepole.

I like Stamp. He’s lovely.

Audrey Hepburn should've married Finney instead of the Italian shrink.

AND, within the first few minutes of GUMSHOE, you'll see somebody dialing the phone with a pencil!

There are conflicting accounts as to why Finney didn't do Lawrence of Arabia. Wikipedia says David Lean dismissed him after two days of filming. But most other sources say that Finney turned the part down after that hugely extravagant screen test mentioned above because producer Sam Spiegel demanded that he sign an exclusive seven year contract. Finney wasn't interested in being tied down like that.

[quote] You mention the word 'neurotic'. I notice that Albert Finney uses the word 'neurotic' twice in this compilation of interviews from right at the beginning of his career.

It seems like he knew himself pretty well and was wise to turn down the contract with Sam Spiegel and the kind of work that would make him unhappy.

Charlie Bubbles is a gem, if anyone is undecided about seeing it. And Albert directed himself getting a blow-job from Liza Minnelli, which surely puts him in contention for DL Fave territory.

Audrey was too old in TWO FOR THE ROAD because when she played the young character she as unbearable. She simpered sweetly more than Olivia De Havilland at her worst.

“I’m so happy I’m so happy ... I love you”

I still can’t get over Audrey being pursued to play Anne Frank. If she had done it then she would have been the oldest looking teenage girl in cinematic history, even beating out Stockard Channing in Grease for the dubious honor.

R249 Watching those rather awkward, raw interviews in the Youtube video from way back in 1960 are making me think that—

1. Finney wasn't Working Class as people so often assume.

2. That he was as self-effacing, as serious and as "down-low" as Alec Guinness.

Finney was lower-middle class from Salford. Specifically, he was regional and got his accent beaten out of him at RADA, though not completely.

I kind of love how Maggie Smith's native Essex accent peaks though today in that Graham Norton interview.

R259 You say 'regional' as if it were a brand.

I suspect he was an actor who wanted to explore different personalities and wouldn't want to be labelled.

[quote]And Albert directed himself getting a blow-job from Liza Minnelli, which surely puts him in contention for DL Fave territory.

Ew! Ew!

r260 well, it kind of was! Like the Beatles were. It was an important part of how class was perceived and how that changed in the 1960s.

Here is his hometown in Charlie Bubbles. And Liza.

Did they give him a tribute at the Bafta's?

R263 I didn’t see it but supposedly they opened with a Finney tribute - I guess there they do the opposite and put the most important first.

I don’t know why I care about who gets the last in memoriam spot but for some reason I get so invested in it. I sure hope he gets that spot but who knows.

Thank you R262. I must rewatch the bleak 'Charlie Bubbles' to guess at any autobiographical elements.

I honestly thought he was dead years ago.

Awww this is sweet...and I’m genuinely surprised because a) Diane Keaton never talks about Shoot the Moon, and b) she rarely if ever joins in the chorus of celebrities commenting on other celebrities deaths — because she thinks we’re more interested in her collages and other such shit.

They hooked up on this movie right?

Weren't you Albert Finney's understudy?

My guess is that he started the memorial segment at BAFTA because was shoved in at the start. Had he died a few months ago he likely would have ended it.

R252 - He wouldn't have had her. He said she was a bitch during the filming.

This thread's a precious rarity in the DL archive, full of real appreciation. Which I support in full.

Regarding drinking: heard or read that Finney's two main hobbies were racehorses and wine. Thus if he enjoyed a drink, it was apparently informed by connoisseurship.

The day after Finney died I heard a radio interview with Sir Tom Courteney. The two became close friends after making 'The Dresser.' Despite Finney's views on the honours system, when Tom was knighted, Albert respected his acceptance of the honour - and bought Tom and his family lunch at The Ritz after the ceremony.

The interviewer didn't shy away from asking when Tom last saw Albert. It had been in hospital a few weeks before, after Albert had declined further treatment. The simple unsentimental description by Tom (with that distinctive voice) of saying goodbye to his friend slayed me. RIP.

R270 He had onset romances with both Audrey Hepburn and Diane Keaton. Can you imagine Albert Finney playing Eurotrash lord of the manor with Audrey in Switzerland?!

Shelley Winters claimed to have nailed him but she claims to have nailed everyone.

Thank you for that, R271. I guess I could find Courtenay’s interview online but maybe just reading about it is enough.

You're welcome R273. I heard it on BBC Radio 4's flagship morning radio show 'Today.' What added to its poignancy was its unexpectedness, as I went about my morning routine.

It was absolutely a model of how these things should be done. Both Courteney and the interviewer were flawless. There's obviously more detail I recall (which added to my slaying), but which I held back. It really moved me.

I haven't checked to see how available the short interview is (couldn't face it again) but it certainly should be made accessible. Unforgettable.

R274 regarding your description of Courtenays final visit, my guess is that his cancer had returned.

Kidney cancer is usually fatal im surprised he survived it at all, let alone over a decade.

When did you hear it r274? Friday morning, Saturday morning? I download BBC Radio programmes and can have a lookie.

Morrissey is obviously a fan of his fellow Mancunian.

Heard the Courtenay BBC interview on Saturday morning. (Apologies for misspelling his name above.)

Malcolm McDowell and Mike Figgis in the Guardian.

In 1991, the Steppenwolf Theatre Company opened its $8.28 million theater at 1650 N. Halsted St., finally jettisoning its old digs in a converted dairy barn. It picked the American premiere of an aptly titled play, Ronald Harwood’s “Another Time,” to mark the occasion. The opening production would showcase the theater’s spiffy new turntable. But Steppenwolf, which was still raising money for the building, also felt like it needed a big-name actor to work alongside Rondi Reed, Andrew White and Molly Regan.

It came up with a 54-year-old Albert Finney. And it gave him a tough assignment. In Act One, he played a Lithuanian Jewish refugee to South Africa, with a limp. In Act Two, he played the man’s son, a concert pianist.

I didn’t start reviewing theater in Chicago until the following year, but by many accounts, Finney’s work in “Another Time” was extraordinary. The Tribune’s Richard Christiansen certainly thought so. And the Washington Post sent its outstanding critic, Lloyd Rose, to take a look. Rose (who went on to write Doctor Who spinoff novels) utterly was transfixed by Finney, devoting almost all of her review to one actor’s work. “He does the kind of physical acting that leaves you thinking about nothing but the characters' souls,” she wrote. But it was Rose’s last paragraph that got to the heart of the Finney matter — she was arguing that Finney may have been British and already a movie star, but he was, at his core, a working-class guy and thus a Steppenwolf-type actor.

“American actors are trained to work from the inside out,” Rose wrote, “to find the truth of the character and let that truth dictate physical expressiveness. The English work from the outside in; by his own account, Olivier's first insight into Shylock was that he probably had very clean fingernails. The drawbacks of this sort of approach are clear: hollow, fussy performances. But when an actor already has a presence that suggests immense inner life, his precise application of technique has an extra excitement — he's his own matador, and his own bull.”

Finney, who died Feb. 7, grew up the son of a bookmaker in gritty Salford, Lancashire — just a few cobbled and impoverished streets over from my late father, actually — and Steppenwolf had its origins somewhere between Highland Park, where it first staged performances and Normal, Illinois, where most of its early ensemble members went to Illinois State University. But Finney was no interloper when he was hired to work in Chicago in 1991.

He’d already appeared in the production of Lyle Kessler’s “Orphans” that Gary Sinise and Steppenwolf took to London in 1986. “Orphans,” a piece about two orphaned, feral brothers, already had been produced in Chicago in 1985 (the cast included Terry Kinney, the late John Mahoney and Kevin Anderson) and it remains one of the most famous productions in the company’s history — there really were two shows, Sam Shepard’s “True West” and “Orphans” that branded Steppenwolf as in-yer-face, rock-’n-roll, Chicago-style or whatever such now-dated metaphor you might prefer.

The London production featuring Finney — who got ecstatic reviews even though many critics had issues with the play — was Steppenwolf’s first international staging. It would return to London, of course, most famously now with Tracy Letts’ “August: Osage County” and, in just a few weeks, with Bruce Norris’ “Downstate,” a co-production with the National Theatre. But “Orphans,” with Finney blowing up the theater, was the show that established the company’s fame in the United Kingdom.

A couple of weeks ago, the British actor Brendan Coyle, who recently worked at the Goodman, told me about his long obsession with Steppenwolf and his lifelong ambition to work there. I’d heard the same story from many British actors over the years.

Over the last week or so, Finney has been justly feted for his movie career, of course, as well as for work in many other plays. But it’s also worth remembering what he did, both abroad and at home, for Steppenwolf, which now is planning another expansion to its theater.

When it gets built, it’s a pity that Finney, my dad’s favorite actor in the world, won’t be in the first show.

Chris Jones is a Tribune critic.

cjones5@chicagotribune.com

R280, R281 are you a DLer or examples of 'cut and paste'?

Thank you, R282, was wondering about that myself!

I googled it and it is a cut and paste.

When I arrived at Salford grammar school in 1954, Albert Finney had just left for Rada, the glittering star of the school’s dramatic society. My school friend and future colleague Les Blair, a year my senior, witnessed his legendary performance as Sweeney Todd. Albert’s legacy shone its light on all of our productions and we tracked his meteoric progress in awe. My final-year production of a very forgettable play won the brand new Albert Finney cup, donated by his parents.

By the time I followed him to Rada in 1960, Albert had become an RSC star, understudying and going on for Laurence Olivier as Coriolanus; he had toured with Charles Laughton, had just completed Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, and was appearing in the West End as Billy Liar. There, my Rada classmate and fellow Mancunian Ian McShane and I sheepishly visited him in his dressing room after a performance, to be greeted by his characteristically convivial generosity.

This generosity of spirit drove him to support films by young directors. He had opted for a percentage rather than a fee for his appearance in Tony Richardson’s award-winning Tom Jones; with the proceeds, he and Michael M formed Memorial Enterprises. (“Albert Memorial” – joke.)

Cynics will tell you that he backed my first feature film, Bleak Moments, produced by Les Blair, because we were all Salford grammar boys. But our bedfellow fledglings were Stephen Frears, with his hilarious Gumshoe, and the late Tony Scott, who made the moving Loving Memory.

Finney and M took on Bleak Moments sight unseen. There was, of course, no script. The film was an expansion of my play of the same name at the Open Space theatre – but neither Albert nor Michael had seen it.

Sign up to our Film Today email Read more As a backer, Albert’s behaviour was impeccable. No interference of any kind, only full support and warm enthusiasm. He would visit the rehearsals occasionally, quietly watching improvisations, murmuring with excited amusement. Similarly, he would show up now and again on location, spreading his unique bonhomie and goodwill to a tired and overstretched young cast and crew. In post-production, he was gently encouraging at all times.

I regret not having had more to do with Albert over the years. We did discuss working together once but it never came to anything. He was a unique, positive force and I owe him an enormous debt, as does Les Blair. Had he not backed Bleak Moments, our whole subsequent careers could well never have happened.

In one of those articles it said his mother didn't want him to let on that his father was an "illegal" bookmaker! He stated his upbringing was lower-middle-class. And his parents donated the Albert Finney Cup for acting to his old school, so you can kind of imagine a slight Hyacinth Bucket-type, very middle-class snobbiness about keeping mum about the real nature of his father's work!

R286 Reverse Snobbery is just as pernicious and silly as Snobbery.

And it's all ridiculous nowadays because England's Working Class had been replaced by the Welfare Recipient Class. And the UK Labour Party has been taken over by Islington SNOBS who hate the traditional Working Class and "White Van men".

R287 - On point. The irony is that the middle-class Labour snobs who wear progressivism like an accessory are led by an Islington dweller who is an unreconstructed 1930s Stalinist who hasn't yet turned over the calendar to see what century this is.

R287 what is Reverse Snobbery in this case?

R289 The British love 'the underdog'.

R287 is suggesting that some middle-class people such as Finney's mother aspire to be working class because Brits (especially) think the poor are "morally superior".

Given the comments about Finney's family background; and the convolutions of the British class system; it's interesting that Finney stepped back from the fuss by declining a Knighthood.

In one comment I heard or read Finney merely observed (when pressed on the matter) that in his view the honours system perpetuated snobbery.

Admirable that Finney was secure enough just to let his distinguished career speak for itself - without any need for further 'elevation.' Contrast that with say David Beckham, so desperate for an extra piece of showy bling to make himself feel a cut above.

He got the final place in the Oscars memoriam segment.

[quote][R287] is suggesting that some middle-class people such as Finney's mother aspire to be working class because Brits (especially) think the poor are "morally superior".

And conversely everyone dreads being decried as "posh."

Am I the only person who has watched a TV show with James Fleet thinking he was Tom Courtenay?

[quote]And conversely everyone dreads being decried as "posh."

Apart from Jacob Rees-Mogg and Mrs David Beckham.

R294 James Fleet isn't as thin and haggard as Tom Courtenay.

R293 "And conversely everyone dreads being decried as "posh.""

But not actually being posh.

Rather like Profl Higgins' dictum, "The French don't care what they do actually as long as it's pronounced properly.'

Remember when he was making like 10 movies a year? He was cranking them out like there was no tomorrow.

Oops, I was actually thinking about Michael Cane. I don't know why I confused those two.

"Michael Cane"

Oh, dear.

I had no idea Michael was a lesbian.

Too bad this thread was hijacked by right-wingers bitching about "the welfare class" and "Stalinism"

Michael Cane

R3012 You might be over-sensitive if you think this thread was "hijacked" by discussion about "the welfare class" and "Stalinism". They were mentioned once in a thread of 300 posts.

An impartial reader could only guess such over-sensitivity arises from being an ungrateful Welfare Recipient.

R300 I don't like "Michael Cane" AKA Morris Micklewhite.

Lazy voice, Ginger colouring, bad attitude.

R304 must be a right-winger if he thinks calling people poor is an insult. Thanks for revealing that you have a low IQ. It must be hard to be that dumb.

R305 I’m not a Michael Caine fan either. His charisma is undeniable but I never thought much of him as an actor:

Who?

Jeez, who knew he was still ALIVE?

Another one! I never liked him. His false teeth were awful. I was always waiting for them to slide out of his mouth.

But Erin Brockovich of course.

Let's read a time stamp shall we?

Why did cretin at r308 bump this year and a half old thread?

Oh wait, it’s because she’s a cretin.