comedy central gay centered character THE OTHER TWO

I enjoy it a lot, the lead characters are endearing fuck-ups (the sister in particular is a huge hot mess) and I like the fact that while they’re a little bewildered by their tween brother’s success, they love him and are proud of him. Same with Molly Shannon’s mom character — she loves all three of her kids.

And you’re right, OP, the roommate is a hottie and steals all his scenes.

Sadly it's on late where I live and I haven't seen any episodes.

R2 You can watch episodes online with a cable/satellite login.

It will never become a huge classic, but it was a very enjoyable diversion. While I enjoy the sister's character she overwhelms everything so far in the first two episodes. For me at least I need more of the very hot roommate, who wasn't even mentioned in the second episode, and Cary the gay brother whom it appears the story is suppose to revolve around and more of Wanda Sykes.

I was pleased by the gay kiss in the first episode, and the two jack-off scenes (no they don't actually show cock but kudos for fitting in two jack-off scenes in a half hour comedy) I am hoping for more gay kissing rather than just a quick kiss in the restroom of a bar. I will be watching it again.

Oh, not a fan of Molly Shannon it would be nice if she could develop a new persona and not play the same person in every roll she does. Thankfully her roll isn't huge.

r2: Watch it online at their website:

Molly Shannon probably got the mom role because she was in Other People written and directed by Chris Kelly. The movie was based on Kelly's real life experiences with his mother's illness and later death and also how he dealt with homophobic parents. I totally recommend it.

When I tried R5's link it asked me to sign in with my cable provider, which I have but at this link below it asked me no such thing, so hopefully those of you without cable can view it here. I had not seen this episode only the first two episodes listed on IMDb.

It starts out looking like an episode of the Today Show but don't be fooled it is actually the pilot of The Other Two.

It is a fun concept. Episode ended nicely for Cary.

Typo: It is a fun concept. Episode 3 ended nicely for Cary.

I haven't heard of this show. Appreciate the heads up.

Lame!

thanks r11 for you terse and complete review!

Where can I watch this in Canada, aside from The Comedy Channel?

I love this show. Can you be addicted after only 3 episodes?

R13 your only option is most likely to use a VPN with a US based server.

I was put off from watching this show because I wasn't interested in seeing the birth of a Justin Bieber-wannabe's career or the lives of his sad-sack siblings who were jealous of his success.

But I finally watched the first few episodes on demand and really liked it. The young kid is not irritating and the series is not heavily focused on him anyway. The older gay brother (bonus points: played by a self-described "queer actor") could have been the stuff of several gawd-awful Datalounge threads and are played for laughs in the show. "My Straight Roommate is Coming onto Me- Should I Go for It?" The standard DL reply of "This will end in tears" seems to be the eventual answer here, too.

Watch it, if you have the time. There are so few good network series with major gay characters.

R16, I think you are onto something, as I got DL vibes from the show with the Beiber-like story line. I wonder if they are going to delve into the his bearding or trans claims that DL obsessed about at one time. I kind got a weird vibe from the manage storyline though... Molly was funny. I like the show.

Agree. Great show, and the roommate is major eye candy. I suppose Justin Theroux signed off on using his name in Ep. 3? But the depiction of "his" house is not exactly flattering.

OMG, they said pussy on network television! I'm scarred for life.

I have seen one dick in 4 years.

This summer, I'm going to see 50 dicks.

It's empowering.

I fucking LOVE this show. The "straight" roommate is hottie Andrew Ridings who was, in his young twink years, on ALL MY CHILDREN for a few months as JR Chandler. He played the role between out actor Jonathan Bennett and closet case Jacob Young.

He was pretty awful on AMC and I'd never predicted he'd ever act again, but he's worked pretty steadily over the years. He appears to be straight, has a cute wife. I think he is HOT and is just the ambiguous type I would have fallen for when I was in my 20s--so, perfect casting!

(Oh , and I LOVE Molly Shannon, and OTHER PEOPLE was amazing.)

I also love this show and did not know Drew Tarver (the gay brother) identifies as bisexual. Cool.

Surpringly engaging. Where are they going with the “straight but gay” roommate story arch? In the last episode the straight roomie unzipped his pants and had the gay roommate jerk him off.

A scenario many gay men are familiar with...

Yup. Like straight out of my college years.

Never saw Molly Shannon on “SNL”, though I was familiar with her. She was outstanding on “Enlightened”, wouldn’t have guessed she had that in her. And she was funny on that SJP show (“Divorce”? “The Divorce”?)

Maybe a buysexual.

Thanks for the heads up DL! I've set up for recording

why are the only links to pictures, and not actual pictures within the threads?

Not gay - bisexual according to a recent reddit AMA and a Slate podcast but he hasn't been very clear about the subject and maybe that is why his sexuality hasn't been featured as a part of the PR rollout for the show. The emphasis has been on the out gay former SNL writer who co-created and writes the show but not so much on Tarver - even in the Advocate advertorial for the show, there was a vague reference to casting gay actors but no specific reference to Tarver. Considering the Advocate wrote an entire article about a straight actor confessing to fooling around one time with a guy in high school as somehow representing a brave new wave of bisexual/fluidity, you know they would have made him the "out male bisexual" posterboy but I get the feeling he isn't all that comfortable with the subject. When I googled his name and bisexual, the only thing that came up was an odd reddit thread claiming that he was engaged to another female UCB comic but the only evidence was an instagram post that I could never find. If he is indeed engaged to a woman, that might explain the mystery.

Everyone in this show is perfectly cast.

Loved how Justin Theroux's house had only one bedroom but three saunas. And dozens of pairs of black boots.

The kid is sweet and not a brat at all. The siblings all love each other, which is nice.

Lusting after the dudebro roommate with the hairy chest. But I think, yes, it will end in tears.

Is it just me, or is the sister character a blatant rip-off of Dee from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

R32 I even thought it was the same actress

I thought the sister character is a blatant rip-off of Julie Klausner's Julie from Difficult People. Just look at the scenes from the movie premiere party like her "put it on Billy Eichner's tab!" line. The whole show feels very Difficult People with famous name droppings and mocking them. They even did that tourist bus bit where tourists watch a played out scene from their bus.

LOL. Sorry, ... with famous name dropping and mocking them.

R32 you’re not alone, I also thought it was a lazy rehash of Sweet Dee. I bet even the casting notice was for a “Sweet Dee” type.

R34 you are also correct that this concept is a retread of Difficult People. This show seems like something that was developed ages ago a finally greenlit, I mean is there a more dated cultural reference than pre-tattoo Justin Bieber? Kids don’t even like that kind of bubblegum pop anymore, it’s all these SoundCloud rappers with handrawn tattoos now.

ScreenRant also noticed the resemblance

The two leads were very well cast.

While I do mourn the loss Difficult People, this Other Two is quite a bit less venomous. They'll name drop/pop culture refer, but their insta-famous sib kinda sweetens the funny, bitter-ish escapades.

Yeah, Difficult People was full on mean in an AbFab kind of way where you loved to hate the leads and enjoyed them failing at whatever they wanted to accomplish.

The Other Two seems more sweet with the leads having some kind of redeemable character traits (like their love for their younger brother).

The problem I have with the little brother is by making the age difference 15 years it doesn't seem like the older siblings would be close to him.

Helene York who plays the sister dated Bobby Flay for awhile. I also remember her when she played the barely seen girlfriend of the lesbian lawyer on The Good Fight.

Heléne Yorke is a gay icon in the making and was incredible in the American Psycho musical on Broadway.

I hope the flight attendant guy played by Beck Bennett pops up in another episode.

R44 She also played the fuck-up daughter of a former president, I absolutely loved her in it.

I think because of the age difference, the older two would have doted on their baby brother. And it sounds that they all loved the dead father, while tolerating the crazy mom.

Love the show, too, but so very tired of Molly Shannon.

[quote]I think because of the age difference, the older two would have doted on their baby brother.

My mother had a new baby when I was 16. I doted for two years, then went to college. Never lived at home again. Never close.

That says more about you, r49.

Of course it does, r50. It's about me.

More than about what, though, or whom?

It says more about your frigid personality, r49, than about other people in a similar situation, who would remain close to a younger sibling. Is that clear enough for you?

Well in all likelihood these two characters, who are both written as selfish, would not be close to their 13 year old brother given respective 15 and 17 year age difference as well a difference in geography.

It would have been better to make the brother 18 or 19.

Already renewed for a second season.

Everything is renewed for a second season these days.

In all likelihood this will die a slow and quiet death after two seasons because you can't launch anything on basic cable anymore.

I watched the panel discussion of the show on YouTube. They panel includes the two SNL creators of the show and the two lead actors. Fred Armisen is the panel discussion leader.

It is revealed (no specific spoilers) that the comedy series takes a turn around episode 8, maybe into something dramatic. The panel won't say anything specific. But this show is not a 100% light comedy series.

Heléne said something interesting about her character. She said that her character doesn't realize that she is one of "The Other Two." Her character sees her older gay brother as struggling and maybe a loser, but she thinks she and her younger brother are doing great, even though she's actually as fucked up as Cary. Anyway, that's how she's playing it.

That's exactly what Sweet Dee would think.

My brother is 13 years younger than me. As adults, we're much closer to each other than to our older brother.

[quote]It is revealed (no specific spoilers) that the comedy series takes a turn around episode 8, maybe into something dramatic. The panel won't say anything specific. But this show is not a 100% light comedy series.

I'm guessing an illness hits one of characters. I'm going with the little brother getting cancer and then the mom and older siblings exploit it.

My brother is 16 years older than me and was a wonderful big brother. Even when I was a little kid and he was a swinging single 20something, he would make an effort to spend time with me.

I guess at some point the younger brother becomes a brat by letting fame and fortune go to his head and the siblings turning on him.

Here's the preview for Thursday's episode. Cary's younger pop-star brother releases a viral video "My Brother's Gay."

In this Out.com article, Drew Tarver talks about his queerosity--

[quote] When I read the script, I was like, "Oh, this feels like some real queer issues that I haven't seen.” It’s not as shied-away from. There's straight-up kissing. There's masturbation to men. I needed to see this on TV as a queer person growing up. This is very important and exciting for me to get a chance to do this. And I've dealt with, in my real life, internalized homophobia that I think Cary is going through and trying to figure out.

I wonder if he was semi-forced to talk about his bisexuality to ward off accusations that a straight man was taking another gay person's job.

The Other Two's next episode is Thursday at 10:30 pm EST on Comedy Central.

“As a queer person”

A gay man pushing 30 should know better than to think his closeted/curious/horny roommate will end up being his boyfriend. Enjoy the playtime, but don't expect a disney happy ending. That said, I do like the show.

It's a comedy about clueless people, for god's sake.

Fair point R66

"a little dry. Like a turtle chewing a carrot" ?

Even if a little dry, I would have given the boy a chance. He can learn.

That interview is all over the place - you can tell the "reporter" emailed some generic questions and cut and pasted the replies. You can tell the reporter wanted to play up the gay vs bi angle with the evil privileged biphobic gays oppressing the poor virtuous bisexuals but Tarver to his credit didn't take the bate. It sounds like he is still dealing with some internalized homophobia as he avoids any details of his personal life - does he a boyfriend? There is an entire reddit thread speculating that he is engaged to a woman so who knows. His answers were so generic - the only thing we really learned is that he watched that Brit bisexuality series and then everything is bi-phobia and bi-erasure, etc.

And using Queer as some kind of universal identity just papers over significant life differences, especially between bi and gay men. Heterosexuality is still privileged and that will always cause a conflict between those men who only have sexual and romantic relationships with other men and those who lead basically a heterosexual life except for sex with men on the side. The only thing we have in common is homophobia - or is that biphobic?

R6, yes, Molly worked with Chris before plus Lorne Michaels is one of the executive producers for this show.

My problem with the latest episode is that they’re sort of writing Cary at a level of integrity higher than he should be for the show to work. The sister occupies the same moral (or amoral) universe as the show business people which made her story tonight more amusing, while Cary’s seemed like something from a more serious or earnest show. What made Difficult People or Always Sunny was that both stars or all five stars are at the same level of awfulness.

Anyone else chortle when the guy at the bar said he didn’t know Cary was gay when they did the play together?

“What is he, headless?” To paraphrase Karen Walker

r72, but I think that there is great potential for conflict there when the leads operate on different levels of integrity for serious drama purposes and comedy.

I disagree because they don’t share the same storyline in the episode, so it felt like watching two different shows.

That's the whole point, r72. To have both the older siblings as craven, clueless opportunists would be ridiculous and tiresome. r74 has it right.

r73, the friend said that because he obviously was not interested in Carey at the time, but after Carey's sudden elevation to "gay icon," he was more famous and hence, more fuckable.

R76 = idiot

I'm with r76 et al. The clueless double act has been done with Edina and Patsy and most recently with Difficult People. I like this fresh new spin with one in the pair still being thirsty but also a decent and relatable person deep down. And it makes the other one look even more cartoonish in comparison. So I guess that makes him half of a straight man?

I think that I would have let the roommate finish the blowjob before I pushed him away, but that's just me.

Call me a creep, but I really wish the show was on HBO or Showtime then you'd get at least ass (the roommate's?) and maybe flaccid dick from an extra or two.

^^^ I’m watching on Xfinity and they have episodes listed as explicit versions. So far I think it’s just been language, but who knows?

I love how maturely that lusting after the straight/closeted guy situation was dealt with. It's all fun and games until you start catching on that internalized homophobia and the desire to "pass" as straight. That scene should be linked to every time a thread about chasing after a straight guy appears here on DL.

The little exchange at the end when that guy responded with disgust after Cary had said "Thanks" was some really biting commentary. You rarely see subtle gay interaction like that in other mainstream comedies. And that agent treating Cary as her newest pet fag hit close to home.

r80 That actor basically has no upper lip so the BJ was most likely toothy in addition to being dry. Still, I'll miss seeing his bod going forward. They could make him come out and start dating a hot gay guy who constantly hangs around the apartment, but I think that would take away from Cary's growth. On the other hand, the roommate should do whatever the fuck he wants with his life.

I love this show.

Me, too. This last episode suggests it may have darker undertones going forward.

I think the darker undertones of the show have to do with the father's death. In the last episode it was mentioned that lied about the dad dying of cancer.

The gay curious roommate is a total butter face. As hot as his bod is, that face is tragic.

Youre blind R86

In the panel discussion video upthread, the actor playing Cary talked about preparing for a later episode where he had to cry for several days of filming. They didn't say much about why he was crying in that episode, but it appears the crying wasn't comical.

I get a weird vibe from the actor playing Cary - there are short segments after the show online where the two writers and the two main actors provide some behind the scenes commentary and the guy who plays Cary is very coy about his sexuality. He mentions internalized homophobia at one point but at such an abstract level that it almost seems like scripted irony. I read somewhere that he only came out at 27 but claims he was never hiding anything and that his attraction to men is a recent development. In the clip below after the pilot aired, the all talk about how similar they are in real life to the show but he talks about having a sort of famous sister but never mentions the obvious. In a later segment he vaguely talks about "queer" actors but never in the first person...odd.

I don't find Cary to be very attractive and his neediness doesn't help. He should have been grateful the hunky roommate wanted to experiment with him. He'd never get another guy as hot as him.

While the sister has her moments, her un-self aware crassness relegates her to side show status. Cary may have his flaws but he is definitely smarter and has more of a moral compass. To reject the handsome roommate who he rightfully knew was only using him was smart and self-protective.

I think the latest episode is very entertaining, but also telling. That rollercoaster of Cary wanting the clip to be taken down one moment and then letting it stay online the next shows how fickle he (and the media industry itself represented by Wanda's character Shuli Kucerac) is. Also the scene at the end where his response, to his colleague not knowing he was gay when they worked together, was a bit too enthusiastic was hilarious and telling. That awkward moment afterwards was priceless. Craig standing up for himself and pushing his roommate away was pretty epic (yeah, Mary!) given that it's a brand new show that hasn't even established itself yet.

There apparently has been some chatter online about Tarver’s sexuality, this is also being discussed in his own separate thread

He was discovered by CBS in a talent showcase in which he participated as an LGBT member, and is criticized in the Deadline article because someone knew him as having had a girlfriend. Other people chimed in to defend him and allude to only recently having come out.

My personal opinion is this: many people who pursue careers in front of the camera in show business are very, very ambitious and usually around high school have already developed a self-image centered around being bound for stardom (Lea Michelle’s character in Glee is a good example). So the idea of Drew being someone who did not identify as gay or bi for a long time and then comes out and vaults to the head of the line in this showcase while not being completely comfortable publicly with his sexuality, fits to me this profile of the ambitious ingenue.

Here's a Youtube video from 2016 where Drew Tarver plays a character, Drew, who talks about his new gay relationship. The title of this comedy routine is "When Your Whore Friend Gets Into a Relationship."

I don't know when he discovered he was gay-ish or bi, but it appears he's been very gay-friendly for a while.

r95 That UCB/alt-comedy crowd is very gay friendly so it is strange that he would have been closeted so long or that the other gays wouldn't have suspected. He was in a longterm relationship with a soap actress so that might have delayed his coming out (There is reference to his IG post from Oct. 2014 saying Happy 10th anniversary to Levin Rambin (now deleted) but there is also her IG post from Nov 2013 with his picture captioned as ex-boyfriend so who knows). He had to be out on some level on Feb of 2014 because he won the CBS diversity award for an LGBT that year. I think he is 33 so if he came out at 26 that would be around 2012.

He obviously friends with Michael Henry and appeared in one of his videos so you would think he would be more upfront about his sexuality but the same rules don't seem to apply to bisexuals. They get a pass for being in the closet because apparently gays are so mean to them that they cower in fear of being evicted, fired (not that many would have gay bosses but never let logic get in the way of self-pity) or beaten up by those roving packs of militant biphobic gays! I kid but you would assume as much according to bisexual activists - they spend much more time berating gays than straights and invoke biphobia to effectively exempt themselves from any responsibility in working against homophobia and heterosexism.. Why would they - heterosexuality has its privileges and since 90 % of them end up in straight relationships, their interests align much more with the heterosexual majority than with the homos. Anyway, we are constantly told that sexuality is so fluid these days, no one is really gay or straight so problem solved! The Advocate puts a male/female couple on the cover - a lesbian no less married to a man - and deems it the more "queer" than actual same sex couples. But you can't object without being denounced as a privileged cisgendered man! If you didn't know any better, you would assume it was some devious plot by evangelical christians to undermine the gay rights movement from within. Of course that is just a crazy conspiracy theory but we live in bizarre times - who would have ever thought that the FBI would run a counter-intelligence operation against a newly elected president under suspicion of being a Russian asset!

References for above in the link below - odd page I know, it almost seems like it was computer generated or translated from another language but the links work so....

That site is basically a computer generated site

R95 so if we take everything at face value; he says he is 30. 2014 anniversary is 4/5 years ago depending on when it was. That means he was 26 or 25. So according to that he was 16 or 15 when they got together........ I doubt it.

He is lying about his age. Being discussed over here

comedy central ran a NEW episode last night, but labeled in as "series premiere". WTF. it appears the ep will rerun Thnurs night. cute highschool dance with a hot drama teacher.

Daniel K Isaac is cute, and an out gay actor

Wonder if last nights episode was filmed before JJ Totah came out as trans. Also what did these gays do to him to get on that list?

he list is men he wants to fuck... ^

No, that was definitely his shit list.

who is this jj person?

I'm really enjoying this. Episodes 3 and 4 seem to hit a stride that episodes 1 and 2 just hinted at.

Molly Shannon's Midwest middle-aged mom 'do is like a cross between Kate Gosselin and Rachel from "Friends" if it had been done at Supercuts.

And I literally laughed out loud when Wanda Sykes attempted to do damage control by taking down Internet photos of the sister who had gone as Terri Schiavo for Halloween.

You must be the only one who’s never heard of the Can I Speak to the Manager haircut.

After the latest episode I stand by my earlier criticism. Cary’s writing is so different from Brooke it’s like watching two different shows when their storylines are separate. Contrast it with say Schitt’s Creek and how David and Alexis are clearly both occupants of the same kind of world.

I’m afraid the show is a bit of a mess.

That two-tone approach s a big draw for me, to be honest.

Anyone else expected Jackie to do a Mamacita impression when she started talking about accents?

I loved the running joke of catching all the teachers who snuck off during the dance to have sex.

So did Drew fuck the teacher? Will we see more of him?

Jackie Hoffman as Lorraine, Chase's body double, was friggin hilarious.

And Ken Marino as the pathetic, and mildly creepy, manager is pure genius. Richard Kind as Skip is also hilarious doing all these side jobs while acting as Cary's talent manager on the phone.

r111 Wasn't that school in some suburban area? Which would mean Cary or the teacher would have to travel back and forth to see each other. Not gonna happen, probably. I liked the teacher but he was more of a one-episode writing device to confront Cary with a possible alternative career choice for a drama major.

I think there is a higher chance to see Josie Totah again for her character to screw with Cary and his career or love life.

r108, agree to disagree. I think if they were both crass like the sister, it would get old fast. The brother is more is the more centered of the two, and I in no way find it difficult to have them co-exist in the same universe. I don't see the comparison with Daniel and Alexis apt at all.

Schitt Creek's Daniel and Alexis come from the same level of entitlement and adapt to their new non-glamorous lives in a rather similar way (Oh! How quaint is that! Look at me, I'm doing something totally mundane!).

Brooke and Cary approach life in their own, individual way even though they both try to make it in the entertainment industry. Brooke is more cynical and ruthless and Cary is more whiny, shy, and self righteous.

Another show DL's gonna run into the ground.

r111, the diner "the other two" were sitting outside of after the school dance is in Elmont, NY, in suburban Nassau County, Long Island. Not sure if that was intended to be relevant to the storyline as Elmont, per se, or just suburbia in general.

There are literally 100,000 or more Cary types working as waiters in NYC, waiting around for their big break to happen, living in crappy apartments with roommates. Fun for a while, I suppose.

There was another new episode last night, it was listed as "First Look" for some reason and will air again during the normal time slot on Thursday.

Lots of shirtless Drew Tarver.

He’s okay

Huge head body ratio

I'm wondering now exactly how the dad died. Suicide? In a hotel room with disco lights getting fisted?

It was funny how Patrick Wilson was so supportive of the brother in public but wanted to avoid riding down in the elevator with him.

He's presented as a dolt on the show, but I find the sister's old BF played by Josh Segurra to be very hot.

I was almost expecting him to kiss Cary in the locker room.

#metoo, but yeah, i did too. ^

Very uneven episode. I think the premise is wearing thin fast.

Patrick Wilson really filled out those jeans. Yum.

Didn't watch tonight, but is the hot roommate still on the show, of did he disappear after the blow job moment a couple of weeks ago?

No he hasn’t been on since then

I lost interest without the hot roommate

I love how they made Cary look even more unsuitable for the Andy Cohen bartender gig by showing him in the gym with all the muscle guys. The real Andy would have screamed in terror for a guy like Cary (a nobody without a gym bod) to be cast as bartender on his show.

STINK and how it came to be....

[quote]I'm wondering now exactly how the dad died. Suicide? In a hotel room with disco lights getting fisted?

Yeah, I think it was suicide.

Anyone have YouTube TV? I can't find this show on there. Ugh.

Josh Segarra was sexy AF in that lockerroom Scene with Cary

Patrick Wilson looked hella tight in those jeans

I feel so stupid. Only in the latest episode I realized that I have mixed up Josh Segarra with Jack Kesy. Josh was great in Arrow playing a good guy who turns out to be a bad guy out to take revenge on the Arrow / Oliver Queen.

I love that Cary didn't realize that Patrick Wilson was totally fake during the AC WWHL segment and didn't give a fuck about Cary at all.

Thanks for the recommendation, Datalounge. Two eps in, and I love it. And I totally agree that it feels like a sweeter, slightly less cynical version of Difficult People, but... it works for me.

Helene Yorke should get all those chest moles removed.

[quote]Wasn't that school in some suburban area? Which would mean Cary or the teacher would have to travel back and forth to see each other. Not gonna happen, probably. I liked the teacher but he was more of a one-episode writing device to confront Cary with a possible alternative career choice for a drama major.

I think the area was somewhere in New Jersey maybe 30 to 60 minutes away from NYC. In the previous episode, Brooke went there to track down that girl who wrote the letter to Chase.

Never really noticed Helene York in her Broadway shows, but love her! And she can move!

Josh Segarra Is Zaddy 🔥🔥🔥🔥

I love how they're always putting drinks on Billy Eichner's tab.

I screamed when Greta Lee showed up. She was as funny here as she was in Russian Doll. Love that bitch.

Me too, r146. She's great.

Episode three was hilarious but I feel like it’s gone downhill from there. I’ve also found myself really disliking Cary and the straight actor playing him.

Either Drew Tarver is terribly miscast or perfect for the role, because I hate him and his character more than his sister. He isn't an asshole but I still want him to fail at everything he tries, because I find him annoying as hell. So, if that was the show's intention Drew is perfect for that role.

Drew Tarver's not straight R148

some of these "viewers" seem to do nothing but bring their politics to watching this show. you may not be aware of this, but this is a sitcom. its funny. is not a thesis on gay/straight world views. it make me laugh. that's the purpose of a FUNNY SHOW.

R148, he’s either really “queer” with no evidence to back it up or he’s an opportunist who used some vague label to take advantage of situations where he could have some career momentum if he said he was.

The jury is still out but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some Jussie Smollett type allegations of him exploiting gay visibility for financial gain.

R151, it’s just a shame the show hasn’t been funny in about four weeks.

Not funny for you R153

r151 = Chris Kelly

In all seriousness, there's nothing wrong with talking about the messages in this show, especially because we don't really have (mainstream) sitcoms with gay leads that go beyond stereotypes. So some of us are excited to break it down more than we usually would with other similar shows. That's not "bringing politics into it", you privileged frau cow. Besides, the creators of this show have been writing sketches for SNL for years now and if you think there has never been any social commentary in those, you've been watching the wrong show.

“Roll” for “role” is the new “loose” for “lose.”

r155

not a frau, and not a fan of SNL so....

I hope they don't get rid of the hot roommate. What's his deal? I'd like to see him and Cary get together

I miss the roommate!

Uh oh. Y'all making me worried. I've only seen the first four episodes, but I've loved it so far. I guess people who've spent their careers writing sketch comedy may not have the chops to sustain a full show? We'll see. 🤞

FWIW, in one of the after-show talks that Comedy Central puts after every episode, the lead actor described himself as a "queer actor". I know the "q" word is triggering to eldergays, but he's definitely not straight.

Lots of sources are calling him bisexual, since apparently he either had or has a girlfriend.

Drew Tarver (Cary) is bisexual

R162 - he looks much better on the show.

that was the link to the podcast where he says he was bi

I’ll take Cary over Will and Jack any day.

Oh hey, it’s Jimmy Fowlie as an Instagay on tonight’s episode!

And another one is Nick Adams, naked in a church!

Seeing Brock Yurich fucking a woman was so weird, since he's so gay.

Love that they actually picked authentic instagays

Is Nick Adams an Instagay??

didn't one of the "instagays" say he was straight? and one a virgin?

Yes, Navaris' character did.

I want to lick the roommate's chest hair.

"I used to be fat but now I have two nieces." Off-beat hilarious.

Saw that it was written by Cole Escola of Difficult People. This show is so much better. Loved the burn on THIS IS US.

[quote]Saw that it was written by Cole Escola of Difficult People.

Knew it would be hilarious the moment I saw that credit. And it was full of his brand of humour, especially the "How can we know you're gay if there's no shame?" bit.

Last night’s episode was the first I’ve really laughed at since episode three, but I think Difficult People is much superior show, although Helene York is a much better actress than Julie Klausner. DP dealt with serious matters in a much more fluid manner whereas on this show, the dramatic turns feel like authentic. Both shows deal with gay issues in different but very unexpected ways that I haven’t seen a show tackle.

I also loved the giant eyeroll when she found out the British guy was cut

Bring Saamer back, please.

Who was he?

The British guy r176 mentioned. Although his hair was short on the show.

Reviews are start to coming in for the upcoming HBO documentary.

oops wrong thread

'HE'S DOING 'CALL ME BY YOUR NAME' AGAIN."

Comedy Central took the place of my CNN tonight...why does this happen with Spectrum?

Loved that ending.

I still miss the roommate though.

AT least the roommate got a mention.

At least we know Cary keeps his hole clean in anticipation of sex.

Starving yourself for a full day in case you might have sex in the evening is ridiculous and will reduce your muscle mass and fuck up your blood sugar levels in the long run. But of course that was written comedically; it wasn't an endorsement of this practice.

I think the showrunners were referring to the last scene when they said they had to do it three or four times and Drew was able to cry on cue without menthol every time.

Cary is slowly morphing into something awful but I guess that's inevitable when you're in showbiz.

I just think this show should already generate a spinoff called "The Roommate "

Let's face it, neither of those two would have made a convincing top.

Josh Segarra plays such a sweet character. You just know he would eat your ass forever to make you happy.

r189 I was expecting that scene to go like "No, you eat the pizza - No, you eat it, go ahead..." ad nauseam because neither wanted to top. It was something different to watch two guys decide on the spot which position they'll take later in the bedroom.

Also, garbage food like pizza lies in your stomach for hours and hours, and after that takes ages to reach your large intestine. They could both have eaten it and then bottom with zero issues.

r190 He's so fucking sweet. He can carry me around like he did Chase anytime.

The awkwardness when two guys that are attracted to each other discover they are both bottoms.

It's a great opportunity to dust off the sybian, though.

Wasn't there something earth-shattering big promised that changes the show's dynamic or something in episode 8?

r194 You're right, there's a scene on an airplane that was supposed to happen in the eighth episode. It's the first thing they ever filmed and it's been hyped so much, I'm sure I haven't hallucinated it. Perhaps the reviewers had the episodes available to them in a different order than we do?

isn't that airplane scene coming up next week?

Most likely, yes, but I distinctly recall hearing several times that it would be in the eighth one. In any case, I fully expect Ken Marino to jump off the airplane and I won't settle for anything less at this point.

I hope we haven't seen the last of Daniel K. Isaac

Anyone with a fireplace can do "Call Me By Your Name"

Julio Torres' character should have hooked up with Cary.

r200 I was just assuming that is where the episode was headed. And then nothing.

Who’s that, R200? I don’t have a shorthand with D-list NY theatre actors.

SNL writer and comedian of some sort, apparently.

Josh Segarra looks so different here on this show. He looks blackish or Blatino. In the past, he looked very white

But he is Puerto Rican r204

Ahhh hence The hot Blatino swag

That lockerroom scene with josh was so hot

I love Cary (looks and personality) and was so sad to see him turn show biz douchey in the last episode. I hope it was just a phase.

WRONG R155. That’s exactly what this is. Let me tell how this thread is gonna go...

Instead of talking about the quality of the show, this thread will devolve into an “IS Tarver is gay or straight” drama, but he won’t be gay enough for some of you and not straight enough for the rest of you. Someone will cyberstalk him and then keep us updated on his online friends and family (only the cute ones tho). Someone will crawl out of the woodwork proclaiming a friend of a friend saw Tarver at a Singer/Spacey twink party 10 years ago. Then the usual DL gargoyles will jump in with the requisite critique of Tarver’s appearance as if he’s some goddamn porn star or something. Someone will go into the history of queers on TV while mentioning some gay character from the 80s blahblahblahhhhhhh 400 replies later.

[quote] Let me tell how this thread is gonna go...

Because of DL's format it's not really that evident, but you can have different topics in one thread. If posters discussing one particular topic (like, "IS Tarver is gay or straight") bothers you so much you can put these posters on ignore and focus on appreciating the discussion about the show. Any other approach would force you to come off as unhinged hall monitor trying to control the conversation (and posters posting their disapproval of you trying to be a hall monitor) and that also derails from actually discussing the show.

r209 There's a special thread for Drew Tarver already.

Also, like r210 mentioned, this isn't Reddit. People have [italic]always[/italic] discussed various aspects of a movie or a TV show within a single thread. That's part of the appeal of DL for me, as there's less discussion overall but it's all in one place.

i fell in this love with this show when I saw Molly Shannon's hair in the first minute of the Pilot episode.

I like that they're using Molly Shannon sparingly.

This week's episode was boring and lacking in comedy. I don't care if Cary is a rice queen. The molly subplot was lame too.

love this show

Best new show of 2019

Good Trouble is best new show

R202/R203 he also does occasional standup appearances on Seth Meyers and The Tonight Show.

Julio Torres wrote the SNL skit "Wells for Boys".

I'm becoming obsessed with Drew Tarver. He is so cute. I started watching his skits with UCB on YouTube. Some of them are pretty good.

Did Drew's thread get deleted?

Never mind, I found it

OK, after the post-show bit on Comedy Central's website I am totally in love with Alex Segarra. What a doll.

Oh yeah?

I think it's Josh Segarra. And he's so beautiful and magnetic, I can't keep my eyes off him when he's on screen.

I first thought Josh Segarra was full-on Blatino. He's Puerto Rican, European Spanish Dominant. He's a chamelon!

Google Images reveals Josh's beautiful and suprising BLUE eyes.

He was on a show called Sirens a few years back and the running joke was that he was fantastically well-endowed. Nice hairy chest.

He needs a thread

Is the big plot twist that Sweet Dee the 2nd is actually Chase’s mother? In the last episode she said to a mollied-out Molly Shannon, “I’m Chase’s sister, not his mother. Remember?” Did she say that because she was afraid something would slip out of her mouth?

I doubt she'd forget giving birth and then never wonder why her vagina was ruined. She also doesn't strike me as someone who would be consciously keeping such a secret for so long.

she was just reminding the mother that she had responsibility for the kid. (my take)

R230 I thought the plot twist was let slipped that the father was an alcoholic? And that his death must have been related to that.

YAYYY!! I did not know we have a thread for this. The dead girl sequence is funny AF

So good, I’m sad there’s only one more episode left.

Hopefully we won't have to wait a year for season 2.

That was the big secret that was supposed to change the trajectory of the show?

Pretty underwhelming.

r237 Agreed, I was very underwhelmed. Shouldn't have been hyped so much. I was losing it whenever the pilot and the co-pilot spoke, though. That was genius.

The opening cum joke made me cringe because the word "cum" is not really used in that context in reporting and just in general. I guess an "et alii" joke would fall flat?

[quote] Helene York who plays the sister dated Bobby Flay for awhile. I also remember her when she played the barely seen girlfriend of the lesbian lawyer on The Good Fight.

I saw her on an episode of Beat Bobby Flay today (probably a repeat), and she was really funny. She has tons of character and she gave Bobby shit throughout the show.

I thought the mom's freakout was hilarous sharing the details of her husband's death and how she had to unfreeze his dick from the roof.

I loved the return of Beck Bennett's flight attendant character.

I am at episode 8 and I also think they’re heading in a “Chinatown” direction with the sister.

r240 Those details were hilarious but the fact she was saying that in front of all those kid actors made me cringe so bad I couldn't even look at the screen.

One of the things I like best about this show are all the cringe-worthy moments, R243 - like when Cary sang Happy Birthday to Chase.

Priceless.

R241, am I the only one who finds him super sexy?

There are times on SNL I think so, particularly his Putin impression. R245

I find the manager rather sexy.

I thought Beck Bennett looked different in this episode than he did in the pilot, to the extent that I thought she had the two confused and the joke would be that she's such a slut for flight attendants she mixes them up all the time. I found him sexy in the pilot but he looked washed out and a bit sickly here.

^^^ The lighting on planes does no one any favors.

A couple of Gold Derby editors are predicting that Molly Shannon will get an Emmy nomination for this show. I doubt it. Comedy Central is one of the networks that gets ignored by Emmy voters and the Academy.

But, I would love it if Molly Shannon or actresses from streaming shows or sitcoms shoved out the SNL women out of the nominations. I'm tired of overrated people like Kate McKinnon and Leslie Jones getting nominated.

Shannon was just spectacular in Episode 9.

Molly Shannon is brilliant. The only other actress who could have pulled off a scene like the "rooftop dick" one is Lily Tomlyn.

Just hours away from the finale on the east coast, who’s going to be watching? I’m going to miss this, I hope it gets a second season stat!

Meh

r253 The second season has been confirmed and is currently being written, but I doubt they're going to release it sooner than a year from now, if that's what you meant by stat.

Ugh, it kind of went out on a wimper, not a bang.

Yeah the ending pretty much reiterates my issues with the season in general, it’s wildly uneven in direction and story. Like they just found out now that the kid can’t sing? That couldn’t have been the running joke all season? It seems they flail wildly with ideas. The show was not quite ready for Primetime, but the creators were SO confident and self congratulatory. Ughh. I won’t be watching Season 2.

well, that will just free up you time for watching more "reality" programs. i will stick with this show. its funny and touching, and often shoots off in directions that i didn't expect. like the "shoe" man turning her down.

Sad they just dropped the whole subplot about the roommate

Yeah that’s bizarre

Im not sure why you all think that. Cary realized his relationship with the roommate was unhealthy, put an end to it, and moved on. Seems like that part of Cary's emotional development was over.

he still lives or did with the roommate when the drama teacher came to date him. the reason they went to the loft was because "my roommate" won't want us in my apartment.

Yeah, the last episode was definitely the weakest one, humour-wise. I don't think I laughed once, actually.

Isn't the teenage actor who plays Chase an aspiring singer in real life? Was he fucking it up on purpose on the show? Didn't sound too bad for me for the most part. Like your average person doing a bland cover on YouTube. Certainly nothing worse than what we hear from established singers whenever their live vocals get isolated.

No roommate for several episodes, and then the adorable Josh Segarra breaks up with the sister? I don’t like the direction the show is going!

Wasn't the entire show filmed before the pilot aired?

Two things. So, nobody knew that he couldn't sing live after all this time? And, they were promoting it as his "live" debut, but hasn't he done concerts or shows before the VMAs, so they just admitted to the world that he normally lip-syncs at his appearances?

Have you ever heard Miley Cyrus sing live? Worse than a karaoke singer.

Funny end to a delightful first season

Looking forward to season 2

I am curious how they can get a second season out of the premise especially since the kid wants to go to college and give up his fame? Without him there's no other two.

I hate the sister. Why do they have to make her be such a nasty bitch all the time?

R269 I took the end shot to mean that Molly Shannon’s mom character was going to be a famous talk show host and they would be overshadowed again, The Other Two.

Just finished watching the finale. Enjoyed it a lot, especially Streeter.

I'm a fan of the show. It's not perfect -- even though it's meant to be a parody of a pop star's life, it has some issues with basic realism (such as the fact that no family members realized Chase couldn't sing before now). That said, I find the premise of exploring the lives of the relatives of a famous person intriguing; I find the jokes funny more often than not; I find the supporting characters hilarious; and I find Drew Tarver massively adorable.

I'll definitely be checking it out when it returns. I don't understand some people on here saying they're giving up after one season. Lots of shows try to find their footing in their first season. Here we have a show with a gay showrunner and gay lead, a rarity on TV, and some people can't stop taking shots at it. Let's give it a chance, huh?

[quote] I don't understand some people on here saying they're giving up after one season.

It's mostly people who only watch tv shows/movies for the male 'eye candy' and don't care much about the story, jokes etc. Sadly, there's quite a few of them

Or maybe the show just sucks?

R273 OR maybe people's lives don't revolve around mediocre TV shows. Sadly, there's quite a few of them.

Meanwhile, RIP Broad City. But there's no gay white characters played by straight men, so you guys probably don't watch it.

r276 RIP Broad City, indeed. I stopped posting in that thread a year or so ago because there was simply no interest in it from others. But the last season was outrageously strong, on par with the first one. Most shows only wish they could go out on such a strong note.

I'll watch the second season of this show, of course. Even though I don't like the fact that Josh Segarra might not return one bit.

One thing I don't get is Chase is 14 and has already been accepted to NYU? Did he finish high school already? Doesn't he still have 3-4 years to go?

^^^ In an earlier episode the sister learned that Chase had completed high school on Streeter’s phone, which he was shown doing multiple choice test questions on previously.

I like the show quite a bit, too. Not perfect, but well worth the time invested.

The best parts of Season 1 to me were when Cary was interacting with his "straight" roommate. So uncomfortable yet sexy, and very funny in an OMG! way.

Broad city is he funniest show around, R276. Those women are masters of anti-comedy. While I wish I had more seasons to enjoy, it’s going out on a strong note which is the best thing.

Josh Segarra is not returning for the second season? Why?!

Hopefully it's because he was cast in another show.

No one confirmed Josh is leaving. The poster above just suggested he might be leaving because he declined to get back together with the Brooke character in the season finale. Of course, he can always change his mind. Doubt they'll get rid of him; I saw when he guested on the after show and the creators/cast clearly like him a lot.

He was cast in Rupaul's upcoming Netflix series as his boyfriend R284

Really good show.

Agree that the final episode was disappointing. Hopefully it will rally and improve again for season 2. Drew is so adorable!

I was really surprised at how opposite Josh Segarra's personality and demeanor are in real life (as seen on the after-show specifically) than his character.

I'd love to see outtakes and bloopers from this show; they must be hysterical.

Segara is gay right? When he was on the Comedy Central after show for like the 3rd or 4th episode, he talked about going on a family vacation to Disney World when he was a kid and it was Pride weekend and how he surrounded by all these gorgeous men - could he have telegraphed it any more?

Was it this video R290?

r291 Yes - he is very likeable...

I'm not saying that Josh Segarra isn't gay, but he is married to a woman with a kid.

BROAD CITY had one of the best series finales ever.

No r290. He is a married straight dude with a child.

Son

The actor who plays Carey was somewhat featured in last night's Brooklyn Nine-Nine. He was a bit dry and robotic; not as funny as he is on The Other Two.

I am late to the party but just discovered this show. It is so charming and so fucking gay. I fell in love, can't wait for season 2.

I did think it was weird how the roommate plotline was dropped in episode 4(?) and never brought up again though.

Has season two been delayed due to covid-19?

Scuttled to HBO Max

R300 - Great news! Comedy Central didn't seem to know what to do with this show and did a terrible job promoting it. It should have gotten as big as Schitt's Creek, but perhaps because of production agreements (just guessing) it didn't make it to streaming services like Hulu or Netflix where it could have built up a bigger audience. Now it might be able to via HBO Max!

I hope fucking Xfinity and Fire TV can figure out how I can watch HBO Max before this premieres! I know...I can watch it on my computer, but..blech.

Looks like there'll be plenty of time for that, R302....

[QUOTE]The first seasons of The Other Two and South Side, which aired on Comedy Central last year, will begin streaming on HBO Max in 2021, followed by new seasons to stream exclusively as Max Original series. Both shows, produced by Comedy Central Productions, had been renewed by Comedy Central for a second season but neither new season has aired. (Season 2 for The Other Two is yet to be completed).

The Other Two (season 1) is FINALLY on HBOMax y'all. Gonna rewatch the shit out of this show. Do we know when season 2 will arrive?

R304 Don't think there's been an announced date but it should be sometime later this year.

Thanks, pal!

I was wondering about season two just the other day. Good to know.

Rewatching on HBOMax! It’s really good, and Andrew Ridings is HOT!! I hope he’s in season 2.

The Andrew Ridings scenes are hilarious because of his passive aggressive latent homosexual advances.

Which character does he play?