The Atlantic Bryan Singer article is here!

What timing. Think this will hurt BR at the Oscars?

I was just digging into the Variety article about this whole thing (linked) and am heading to the Atlantic article now. What I've read so far is... wow, yeah, it's not looking good for Singer.

[quote]One of the men, Victor Valdovinos, says he was a 13-year-old extra on the set of “Apt Pupil” when Singer fondled his genitals.

[quote]The three other accusers are identified in the story by pseudonyms. One, identified in the story as Andy, says that he had sex with Singer when he was 15. Another man, identified as Eric, says he was 17 when he began having sex with the director. Singer would have been 31 at the time. The third man, Ben, alleges that he and Singer had oral sex when he was 17 or 18.

[quote]“He would stick his hands down your pants without consent,” the man told the Atlantic. “He was predatory in that he would ply people with alcohol and drugs and then have sex with them.”

SEVENTH GRADERS? Oh Bryan

So what...???

They willingly gave it up for drugs or booze.

You know, it's one thing to get a guy drunk and feed him pills and the sexually assault him. But when you are messing with 12,13,15 yr olds? That's a pedophile. That's not just criminal behavior, it's psycho and he's lucky he isn't dead.

I hate that fucker. For years we've had to deal with a lot of people who believed all Gays were creepy, sick, predatory, perverts. And now here comes Brian Singer.

A 15-year-old cannot legally or morally consent to giving it up for drugs and booze, r5.

Which I feel you already know, and which doesn't actually matter to you.

Agree he's gross and gives gays a bad name-- I would never even consider nor want to have sex with a 7th grader-- grow up your'e ill!

I had to stop reading just like I had to stop watching surviving R Kelly. I can only take in increments.

He’s a nice Jewish boy. Stop!

Bitches I predicted this would drop to coincide with the Oscar nomination

[quote]But when you are messing with 12,13,15 yr olds? That's a pedophile.

No dear, it's an equally disgusting hebophile. Expand your vocabulary.

Wonder why they even bothered to sign him for the RED SONJA remake when everyone and their dog knew this was coming down the pike?

The thing is, this has been known since the DEN scandal. Buzzfeed did very thorough research. Singer and Spacey took advantage of the DEN chickenhawk parties. And yes, Geffen is implicated.

I love that they published it the day after Bohemian Rhapsody's undeserved Best Picture nomination. It's like they knew!

[QUOTE]No dear, it's an equally disgusting hebophile. Expand your vocabulary.

He’s an ephebophile.

One of the authors wrote about the abuse allegations a long time ago for Premiere. I remember it being quoted here years and years ago, I think even on the Usenet groups too.

[quote]He’s an ephebophile.

Nope. That's 15 -18.

[quote] Singer categorically denies ever having sex with, or a preference for, underage men

Oh, my sides!!!

[QUOTE]Nope. That's 15 -18.

Well he’s a combination of both cause he likes them at that age, too. In fact I’d reckon that since #MeToo happened, he’s been engaging more with his ephebophilic side while suppressing his hebophilic desires since it’s safer for him.

"Underage men?"

If they're men, they're not underage, Bryan.

If this takes off like Harvey Weinstein, Bohemian Rhapsody can kiss it's Oscar chances goodbye. I bet some of the other nominees are somewhere celebrating this right now.

Ugh, what a fucking pig.

Bryan Singer finally getting his comeuppance… Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?

BR didn't have a chance at the Oscars anyway, except possibly for Rami, but I'd bet his chances are at about zero now.

Where’s the proof? Michael Egan who kicked the accusations off in 2014 admitted he lied and had never met Singer before.

[quote]Singer applied to the University of Southern California’s film school but didn’t get in; he settled for the Division of Critical Studies instead. He made a short film, Lion’s Den, starring his childhood friend Ethan Hawke;

Good thing Ethan is skipping the Oscars this year.

Should he just kill himself now?

And Singer's press agent announces he is going into drug/alcohol rehab in Europe in 3....2.....1....

And now does Corey Feldman name names?

I wonder what Ben Hardy and any other adult actor who used sexual favours for roles in Bryan Singer films is thinking now?! 😳

Sympathy for his son. Bryan belongs in prison.

I forget he had a kid! I started the thread for that too.

Geffen will never face consequenes, alas, it is just not how the world works.

Singer deserves to lose his career, like The Woodster.

Dan Snyder next, please.

Poor Rami Malek. Yesterday was probably the best day of his life. And now he doesn’t have a chance in hell. No one’s giving BR anything.

[quote]One DEN employee recalls a party at which teenage boys were shown porn in the movie theater. The employee tried to go inside but was stopped by a bodyguard, who said: “Kids only.”

Let's get it trending on Twitter so Bohemian Rhapsody's Oscar chances will be obliterated. I know which movie I want to see win all those awards.

While what Singer did to young Valdovinos was immoral and illegal, the notion that being fondled once set the stage for his life of dysfunction and domestic violence isn’t plausible in terms of cause-and-effect dynamics. He’s out for cash. Did anyone else notice that tenses don’t agree in certain passage of the article? Obviously The Atlantic’s editorial standards have fallen.

It will be interesting to see how the article is treated, it does not seem to be getting picked up much, but it is early yet.

Depraved MF needs to be cancelled. Ian McKellan and all his pool party buds, too.

RIP Gawker, you did a lot of heavy lifting re: Spacey and Singer.

When you gotta use Bryan Singer as a character witness...times up!

It's already trending on Twitter and being reported on the industry sites.

Gawker and Buzzfeed tried to take down the Empress years ago

Hollywood is full of pedophiles who will vote for BR.

It will still win a handful of Oscar's

I think Rami will be fine. If anything he'll get a sympathy vote. No, Rami need not worry about Bryan Singer. He needs to worry about Christian Bale.

Wondering how the industry will deal w/ this. Seems like they are trying hard to forget Weinstein ever happened and to preserve their image. Yeah, there’s Time’s Up, but that’s in partnership with CAA and some of the agents who worked for Harvey were CAA agents. Tarantino admitted he knew enough about Weinstein but did nothing to stop it, and I feel his statement is an afterthought now.

I believed the reason it’s taken so long to get credible info to take down Singer is because he is connected to other powerful men who could protect him, and this won’t be resolved until all those involved are brought to light. Like Weinstein, Singer is just the tip of the iceberg and I hope all the scum, procurers, etc. that enabled his crimes are exposed as well.

Reading the bit about Brad Renfro is so very sad.

[bold]At Saturday’s PGA breakfast for that film about the dead A+ list singer, the producer with a royal-sounding last name completely avoided mention of the disgraced A- list director in his prepared remarks. The new association president deserves recognition for bringing up the subject. The producer responded with the same old fake story about the director supposedly needing to take care of a sick mother. Of course, all the usual kneepad-type Hollywood reporters simply parroted this fake story. The real story is that the director was fired. He was freaking out and not showing up to work, because he was worried about a then-forthcoming article, exposing some of his misdeeds. One of those anecdotes described an underage-looking boy procured off the streets for a group sex session. Freddie Mercury "Bohemian Rhapsody"/Graham King/Bryan Singer/PGA President Lucy Fisher[/bold]

The late WeHo Confidential site had plenty of dirt on Singer and the Entin Twins, who were Bryan's live-in companions at one point.

[quote]I think Rami will be fine

Rami stood up to evil bitch Singer on set and wanted him sacked.

About damn time. Singer has gotten by for years.

He’ll be fired from Red Sonja by end of day, and he will never work again.

[quote]And now does Corey Feldman name names?

He has. It's casting agents no one has heard of so no one paid attention. Anyway Feldman has problems of his own he's running a prostitution racket with those hags in his 'band'

Correct spelling and definition: A hebephile is a person who is primarily attracted to adolescents, or children who have at least started puberty and have signs of adult sexual maturation, but are still young and developing both mentally and physically. Generally, this means teenagers and preteens between 11 and 14 years old.

Finally!!!

Accusations of child rape barely put a dent in Woody or Roman's careers.

We are not going to have that pedophile/hebephile shit here. He’s a pedo.

Period.

[quote]One of those anecdotes described an underage-looking boy procured off the streets for a group sex session.

Singer has a thing for homeless kids. We had a comprehensive thread last year.One of Singer's sleazy hangers-on, an ex actor, runs a homeless shelter in LA and procures for Singer.

[quote] I hate that fucker. For years we've had to deal with a lot of people who believed all Gays were creepy, sick, predatory, perverts. And now here comes Brian Singer.

And the hundred Bryan Singer defenders who will no doubt descend upon this thread like they did to the Spacey threads, calling anyone who takes issue with Bryan's behavior a sex-negative nelly or whatever, will not help matters any.

What was I thinking?

Uh, in what world R54? Woody is finished and will never make another film, and Polanski is widely hated and has been literally exiled from this country for decades.

Just finished the article. There’s nothing here. How many lawsuits were brought against this guy and dismissed?

Singer is probably upset that they’re talking about him in the news again, but his career will survive. The only thing that can destroy him are criminal charges. A perp walk. A trial. Until a prosecutor somewhere comes after him, he’ll be fine.

[R13] looked up the company producing this Red Sonja reboot, Millennium Films. Surprise surprise, this company has claims of sexual misconduct too.

Found the thread that we had on the Entin twins and Singer's procurers

r59, check out all the films Wood and Pol made post accusation and what awards they won, notably Oscars. The only way Roman is "suffering" is not being able to travel to other countries to win lifetime achievement awards.

[QUOTE]looked up the company producing this Red Sonja reboot, Millennium Films. Surprise surprise, this company has claims of sexual misconduct too.

I don’t think they could even find another big name director who wants to do that movie. It’s a relationship of convenience for the both of them. They probably consider themselves lucky to have landed Singer.

The Oscars have lots of controversy this year. First the Kevin Hart business, then them digging up Gaga's old collaboration with R. Kelly, and now this scandal casting a shadow over Bohemian Rhapsody. This is starting to feel more like the VMAs. I wonder if it'll help or hurt the ratings.

That thread at R62 has had lots of posts removed - mainly ones about Wayne Castro and Tommy Johnson and also photos we found on social media of very young guys wth Singer, including a guy who has been passed from Gus Van Sant to Singer.

That was before #metoo R63.

Well they’re also in their mid-80’s now, R67. Not everybody can be Clint Eastwood. What slowed them down, #MeToo or Father Time?

In plain sight

The Entin twins when they were young enough for Singer

BR won the GG a month ago. Did anyone in Hollywood not know about Singer then? I don’t think metoo really means much to a lot of these voters, sadly. Or there are that many metoo peeps out there in Hwood that they can’t care. I’m jaded but I can still see Rami winning and BR even winning BP, which is pathetic because of Singer and because it’s completely mediocre.

At The Abbey, where certain people named upthread procured for him

With Tommy Johnson on right

This photo has been public for years. Hollywood doesn't care. The kid is Frankie Donjae

Bret went to Deadline back in 2017

I know I’m going to be crucified for saying so but I’m not particularly sympathetic toward the older (16 and up) party-boy “victims:”. I remember being 16 and I knew right from wrong and free choice from coercion. They had their good time and were cast aside. A tough life lesson, perhaps, but hardly the stuff of a war zone or the Great Depression. The article drips of the platitudes and moral assumptions of victimhoid as per define by secular “therapeutic” culture. The real world is quite a different place.

That poor Brad Renfro. He never had a chance.

An article like this and accusations happen just about every year for Singer for the past 3-4 years with numerous photos like R74 being public for that long or longer too.

At worst BR will now just end up getting just Rami's win (unless interviews really really push Rami to talk about the accusations and people get mad at side stepping answers).

Singer is too much of a nobody with no well known face for these things to hit him that hard unlike musicians and actors.

[QUOTE] I remember being 16 and I knew right from wrong and free choice from coercion

Just because you may have, do you think that automatically applies to all 16 year olds? Predators know how to spot those who haven't learned life lessons like that. And Los Angeles gets a daily supply of those kind of innocents.

But you were fine, so fuck everyone else, right? You might want to ask yourself what happened to you that resulted in you lacking empathy on that kind of scale.

The one in the middle was Van Sant's boy he's called Chris

James McAvoy knew

Even if you think the older teenagers should have been aware of what was going on, [R76], there are victims here as young as 13. Certainly everyone can agree that an older man (and a powerful director on top of that) going after someone that young is just wrong. There is no excuse for his behavior.

Call Me By Your Name!

I would imagine that many who sympathize with Singer are those who envy him for the lifestyle he had. How many DLers if given the chance of being a relatively young and powerful Hollywood elite would’ve done the same thing? Me personally, I would’ve bumped it up to 18-25 as that’s just my preferred age group but everything else in terms of the nightly LA pool parties and running through guys like Kleenex would’ve been the same.

Why are people posting pics of him with guys who are clearly over the age of 18?

(R79) Life happens to people and we either wise up or perish. Theses guys are looking for money - just as they were when they met BS all of those years ago. Nothing much has changed. I feel empathy for the people suffering in Venezuela far more than these dopey ex-party boys. Life has been too cushy here for too long. They still have their hands out to Bryan (save for that executive).

Frankie Donjae has become an Instagram escort.

What was Francia Raisia doing with Bryan at R69??

so forget about the parties... he has now been credibly accused of molesting a 7th grader, a 15 year old, and a 15 year old Brad Renfro

Yes, those 15-year-old party boys with their sophisticated ways of scamming innocent Hollywood directors out of their hard-earned cash and semen. Poor Bryan!

Brad Renfro never stood a chance. There were rumors back then about Bryan molesting him, now we know they were true. Poor Brad.

Please avenge my passing.

[quote] At The Abbey, where certain people named upthread procured for him

The Abbey is 21 and over. Why would they procure for him there?

That should read The A.bbey is 21 and over.

[QUOTE]There were rumors back then about Bryan molesting him, now we know they were true.

Based on what? There was very little about Brad in the article.

If there’s blame to be levied I’ll point the finger at the boys’ parents. You have to assume that this sort of thing goes on given human sexuality coupled with power and money. If you don’t protect your children this sort of thing can happen - and it can happen even when you think they’re well-protected. Such is life.

This photo still creeps me out

R94: What information are you withholding re: The A.bbey?

DL banned the word "abb-y" years ago but sometimes when you type it, it shows up just fine, r94.

I'm not withholding jackshit, R98. The A.bbey is not twink central. There are other bars and clubs where that scene is there.

Why is the Abbey such a popular place? My friends took me there on my first visit to LA and I found it very bleh. All I remember were a handful of older, sloppy drunk queens and one who fell down some stairs. I was surprised how "messy" the patrons were, especially earlier in the evening.

Singer is creepier than Spacey.

I'm so glad the media aren't letting Singer off the hook.

I spent most of my 20's getting drunk on berry martini's at the abbey. I'm a woman, however. It's become more tacky as of late.

Underage guys got in to TigerHeat - Wayne Castro and Tommy Johnson picked up guys for Singer there and so did the Entins. We had posts about it in the thread linked upthread in which half the posts have been removed.

Singer is into sex tourism

r81 So did Ben Hardy going by that photo were he looks like he's imitating his oral skills!

[quote] r97 This photo still creeps me out

But creepier than this?

so many interesting posts here; if nothing else, my vocabulary is increasing.

Seriously, I agree with the poster who says there's really nothing here in terms of legal action; he hasn't been charged or convicted.

His lawyers and p.r. team will issue denials, demand retractions, etc.

Perhaps Singer will work again; perhaps he won't. This article won't make it easier in today's world.

I agree 100% with R79 who tells R76 that just because at 16 he knew what was what, it doesn't mean everyone does. Predators look for vulnerable kids who don't know what's right. Sure, I blame the parents, too.

I worked a Hollywood event in the late '80s right out of college and it involved telling celebs which table they were seated at at an event; looking back, one of them flirted with me a little. But nothing else ever happened. Thank God. This shit'll fuck you up for the rest of your life.

[quote] Bryan’s friends have names like second rate gangsters or third rate porn stars: Wayne Castro and Tommy Johnson. Brazenly, flagrantly, indiscreetly photographing themselves with boys and more boys… willow thin, pale and hairless. Funnelling boys into Bryan’s world: club promoters, model agents and studio executives. The scale of Bryan’s boy network, his boy compulsion can only be guessed at. It is without doubt an addiction over which he is powerless, his life unmanageable. Yet, to many… perfectly normal. A sex addict amongst sex addicts.He says, “I don’t see the point of knowing anyone unless I’m going to have sex with them.”After the premiere I am invited to the Ritz in New York. When I get to the room they’re there. It’s one of those parties… the men and the boys. Snorting coke, drinking beer, young boys sitting on the laps of those revolting, sour men. It makes me sad and angry. When I write about their party the following day they are outraged, they tell me to take it down… I mean, I’ve been to straight parties and met trafficked eastern European girls… hookers. I feel the same sadness. They are a long way from home. They sit with me until they realize I am useless to them. A young, straight actor/waiter tells me proudly that Bryan takes him to an apartment, gives him drugs and alcohol, hires a pretty girl prostitute and throws himself into the mix as the boy fucks the girl. The boy tells me that Bryan tapes the encounter. He has a big smile on his face, this was the role of his lifetime.

R106 well no.....obviously.

Bohemian Rhapsody is toast.

I wonder what happened to Brad Renfro on the set of apt pupil.

[QUOTE] A young, straight actor/waiter tells me proudly that Bryan takes him to an apartment, gives him drugs and alcohol, hires a pretty girl prostitute and throws himself into the mix as the boy fucks the girl. The boy tells me that Bryan tapes the encounter. He has a big smile on his face, this was the role of his lifetime.

That could be what he did with Brad Renfro.

he's also into watersports... paying straight guys to pee on him

Most of these guys aren’t very attractive

R114, no, they may not be. maybe the super hot ones weren't as vulnerable?

Super hot teen guys are not nearly as vulnerable. They are treated differently.

It’s easier to take advantage of someone whose more insecure

Why is Bryan being castigated? Straight queens like Polanski and Woody Allen walked away with any punishment. Both were defended for years by the Hollywood elite. Singer liking underage cock is a sin though.

[quote]Straight queens like Polanski and Woody Allen walked away with any punishment

WTF is that supposed to mean R117?????

Rami Malek had NO IDEA!! This is totally new information! He was too busy preparing for his role to know that Bryan was diddling those kids.

[quote] I remember being 16 and I knew right from wrong and free choice from coercion.

And I look back at some of the stuff I thought was neat and cool when I was in my TWENTIES and shake my head at how stupid it was.

I don't think it matters if it looks like some underage kid appears to know what will happen at a Singer Pool Party with drugs and alcohol. The relevant question is "Who is the adult, and who is the kid?" It doesn't matter if the kid appears to be agreeable or "okay" with it at the time. It's up to the adult to actually be an adult and follow the law even if the adult wants something contrary to it. The laws were set up to protect kids, even the stupid or naive kids who should have known what they were getting into.

R119 and? Gaga claimed to not know and everyone turned their faces in belief. He can claim the same thing she did.

Thank God SOMEONE is trying to expose this MONSTER for what he is.....

R121 so two liars makes it okay? Everyone knew about R. Kelly and everyone knew about Singer. Maybe not definitive evidence but where there's smoke there's fire

R118 It is a satire deary. However Allen fucked around with underage women and didn't even get a slap on the wrist. He supposedly molested his "daughter", Dylan as well. He never did time. Polanski continued to pump young women after he fled the US for raping a 13 year old anally. Singer likes young boys yet why is he the one that is being called out? For the most part, DL has been great about calling BS out. I'm proud of my brothers here for exposing his sleaziness.

R121 how do you know "everyone" turned their faces in belief? Everyone???

How about the focus remain on Singer and what HE did, not what the kids didn't do or should have done.

The Empress Singer defenders are deflecting. The young victim is to blame not the old pervert. What a sick bunch of cunts they are.

(R120) What about the issue of differing ages-of-consent in different countries, which someone else alluded to upthread? In the U.K. 16 is considered to be sufficiently mature to engage in consensual sexual relations. In the U.S. it is 18. Are the British depraved? Is America a more “moral” country? Or do we simply infantilize young adults beyond reason? I think there’s a huge difference between a pre and post pubescent human being in terms of sexuality and tend to gravitate toward the British view. And no, I am not into young boys - quite the opposite.

R128 The US has differing consent laws going state by state. There are states that have 16 year old consent laws. For example the age of consent in New York is 17. However you cannot be over 21 and fuck a 17 year old . One has to be under 21 to have sex with a 17 year old.

A list of the ages of consent in countries worldwide (for those that have them): Obviously they are culturally relative.

Giving minors alcohol to fuck them is illegal if they’re 16

And age of consent in the UK, like all laws, is not black and white. There are ways to prosecute a man like Singer even if his victims were 16.

Anonymous accusations are bullshit, how can the publi confirm they were even true. I bet the Atlantic didn't' even ask for proof that these guys had ever met Singer, they were out for blood. And yes, it's homophobic. They know the public will eat this shit up without proof because it confirms negative images about gays. They wouldn't do this to a straight director who has a move nominated for an Oscar without actual proof!

Fuck anonymous accusations and everyone who eats them up!! so unfair.

R133 = Bryan Singer

r134= witch hunter

[quote]The Empress Singer defenders are deflecting. The young victim is to blame not the old pervert. What a sick bunch of cunts they are.

Who?

She has issued a statement.

Its just a Democratic smear job to delegitimize my presidency. Sound familiar ?

These "victims" are too cowardly to show their faces or give their names. I wouldn't be surprised f the didn't even exist.

I myself was shocked that there was no Anthony Rapp, a single, credible person willing to bravely step forward and be the face for these victims. Makes the story more limp. It’s just a bunch of anonymous sources and old dismissed lawsuits, really.

[QUOTE]Obviously they are culturally relative.

So why are you bringing them up? Given all of the allegations against Singer were based in the US, and you admit age of consent is based around culture, what's the point in mentioning it?

So far in this thread, you've blamed the victims, the parents of the victims and somehow tried to suggest that age of consents in different cultures has relevance to what happened in America. I wonder what bullshit line you'll start spouting next.

So do you think it's a given that Singer himself was molested as a kid?

That Victor Salva perv was able to continue to make movies after molesting a kid and possessing child smut. This Singer fuck has deeper pockets and more power so, unfortunately, I think he won't be going away anytime soon.

r142 Seems to fit, yes.

R142, probably.

I agree -- one name person would have given this more weight.

I can't believe people here are making any sort of excuses for Singer, especially after all the info posted here over the years. Absolutely shameful.

I don’t like that Singer defends himself by calling the article homophobic. He equates his alleged behavior with homosexuality. That is damaging us all. We should not tolerate this “defense.”

There are several names and pictures.

I don't believe anything will come of this. Bryan Singer isn't exactly a household name like Kevin Spacey. Sure, his movies are huge and well known but how many people pay attention to who directs them? Hell, the only reason anybody cared about Harvey Weinstein is because he got big name actresses. If he sexually assaulted a few no-name actresses with bit parts in his movies nobody would have given a damn and he'd still be working.

I hardly think an article with anonymous sources and hearsay will be enough to destroy him. We need concrete proof and/or a big name star to come out against him.

R147 The Kevin Spacey defense

R148, you're right and my comment diminishes that; that was not my intent.

"Jeff Herman, Go-To Attorney for Hollywood Sex Abuse Claims, Was Once Accused of Rape"

In the news for suing Bryan Singer (again), Herman escaped prosecution despite what the police recommended. He denies the allegations. Jeff Herman represents two Harvey Weinstein accusers, actresses Kadian Noble and Dominique Huett, and on Thursday made more news by reportedly suing director Bryan Singer for allegedly raping Cesar Sanchez-Guzman in 2003, when he was 17 years old.

Singer denies the allegations and points out that Herman previously represented Michael Egan in 2014 rape cases against Singer and three other Hollywood gay men that collapsed within weeks, forcing Herman to admit to “untrue and provably false allegations” and pay a settlement to two of the men."

Fox is blaming Queen for hiring Singer. Ha.

Ultimately, he has not been charged or convicted - yet. So, could his career reignite? I think not. Why? Because Fox execs had serious misgivings about him directing BR - not (officially) because of his known predilection for very young men / teens, but because he's a known prescription opioid addict (claims takes them for a 'bad back') which makes him erratic and causes him to skip work for days at a time. Fox were stuck with him initially on the project because Roger Taylor and Brian May like him.

And lately, the Empress's has indulged herself in regal on set tantrums. He was such a raging bitch on BR Tom Hollander quit and had to be begged back. Insurers now consider Singer a major risk. That's why he's now over.

r152....obviously he didnt have to pay too much or he wouldnt be going after him again.....typical though....when youre accused, point the finger at the accusers.

(R141) I’ve been trying to put the story into a larger context, you moron. You just want to engage in a witch hunt to make yourself feel morally superior, which you decidedly are not.

Nothing in the story is shocking to anyone who knows of Singe, but it is incredibly well researched. Good journalism.

The saddest bit was the part about the late Brad Renfro.

[QUOTE]The saddest bit was the part about the late Brad Renfro.

There was barely anything in there about him. How was that the saddest bit?

Singer is an aggressive, pathological, predatory ephebophile and chemsex addict. That is not enough in Hollywood to cast him out. Young guys who are preyed on and then become rent boys and meth addicts don't excite the sympathy of Middle America like Mira Sorvino and Annabella Sciorra. It's very sad, but people make some homophobic assumptions that this is just 'gay stuff'.

Because he is dead? A large part of that is the sordid lifestyle he was pushed into from a very young age?

The visual of a 15 year old Renfro sitting on the bed watching Singer fuck another child while he debates what he should do is fucking heart breaking

[quote] Singe,

The EMPRESS Singe to you.

R156 And what context is that? That if this happened in another country or culture it'd be fine? Except it didn't happen in another country or culture. So it isn't adding context, it's just another attempt to throw enough dirt in the air to cloud the facts. We've seen it from your type before.

And I don't need to try and make myself feel morally superior to someone who molested children, or those who defend someone who molested children.

As others have said, Singer’s personal behavior in terms of his lackluster work ethic might do him in before anything else. Just like the passage of time did more to hurt Woody Allen and Roman Polanski. If Singer was a top notch professional whom actors loved to work with and kept churning out hits like clockwork, his career would be unharmed by these allegations. But me, I’d be wary to hire him for fear that he’ll randomly walk away from the project whenever he feels like it.

(R162) It’s not my problem that it’s beyond your intellectual capacity to view the story through cultural and biological perspectives. Jesus what a twat you are.

Who’s Andy? He got into porn??

Can anyone figure out the true identities of these victims?

R165 why do you want to know who he is? so you can masturbate to a molestation victim?

Who let the fat frau (r166) in??! No, because a lot of us know who’s who in gay porn and we discuss their personal lives and how fucked up they are. We actually may know who this one is.

Sure sure R167, you might as well use his tears as lube

R166: MANY porn stars are former victims of molestation / sexual abuse.

It's on Drudge, top of the middle column. Everyone reads Drudge. He's finished.

And fuck his "homophobic" response. This has nothing to do with that, and hopefully everyone realizes this

[Quote]Everyone reads Drudge

...come again?!

[quote]Bryan singer and his LA pool parties are ACTUAL Hollywood nightmares that many people have spoken out about for a long time. He’s a deranged, abusive and sadistic man, so are his accomplices. It is so incredibly difficult for survivors to come forward, Love and respect to them x

Yup. He's a POS.

R170 = deploreable or Russbot

FF / Ignored

Wait whut? You made that up r26.

R171/74 like it or not, they do. FF all you want, that doesn't change the fact one bit

r175....thank you....I was going to say the same thing.....Egans downfall came about because Singer and assoc sent their pitbulls after him to shut him up....and I wouldnt be surprised if Geffen had a hand in it like he did with Jarek whatsisname and Don Burns. "Dont pay attention to this liar....hes lying and seeking attention". Sounds like Trump and co.......

The Oscar for Best Picture is in the bag for "Green Book".

Any comment from Hugh Jackman?

[QUOTE]It’s not my problem that it’s beyond your intellectual capacity

Says the poster who can't figure out they don't need to put brackets around the post number they're replying to.

[QUOTE] view the story through cultural and biological perspectives.

You mean utterly irrelevant ones?

No they really don't r176. "Everyone" does read reddit and this story is on the front of that for instance, that is a much bigger deal that Drudge which isn't *that* high traffic of a website.

Exactly, R160!

[QUOTE]The visual of a 15 year old Renfro sitting on the bed watching Singer fuck another child while he debates what he should do is fucking heart breaking

The article said he left before the sex started. Singer just used Brad to help persuade his victim into hanging out in that bedroom with him. The victim wanted Brad to join in.

R181 not to be insulting, but you must be young. I'm talking about the everyday average American, who gets their news from the Drudge Report. Not to mention DC and Wall Street. Certainly not Reddit 😅!

This is how the story will go nationwide and worldwide. Not Reddit--seriously I can't believe I actually read that

[Quote] I'm talking about the everyday average American, who gets their news from the Drudge Report.

Okay, clearly time to stop talking to you. You are a crazy person and I am not going to further derail this thread.

[quote]I'm talking about the everyday average American, who gets their news from the Drudge Report.

Only deploreables read Drudge Report. You are a Deploreable. Goodbye.

[Quote]Renfro sat sheepishly next to the waterbed, looking unsure of what to do while Singer and Andy fooled around. Clothes came off, but Renfro didn’t move.

The account is he clearly was sitting there for a fair bit of the action.

[quote] walked away with any punishment

That's your idea of satire "deary" r124? What punishment did they walk away with?

[QUOTE]The account is he clearly was sitting there for a fair bit of the action.

So what? How was that the most tragic part of the story? Brad Renfro watched Singer make out with some guy on a bed, oh the poor thing! Forget the part where Bryan Singer is alleged to have forcibly raped another kid anally.

You just care about the Brad Renfro part more because you’ve got a hard on for him.

R186 it's "deplorable".

And if this is today's DL, I'm glad to move on. Excuse-makers, apologists, and those with their heads in the sand

"If there’s blame to be levied I’ll point the finger at the boys’ parents. You have to assume that this sort of thing goes on given human sexuality coupled with power and money. If you don’t protect your children this sort of thing can happen - and it can happen even when you think they’re well-protected. Such is life."

You seem to be a horrible person. How about putting the blame where it belongs - on Singer.

"In the U.K. 16 is considered to be sufficiently mature to engage in consensual sexual relations. In the U.S. it is 18. Are the British depraved?"

Some of the victims were younger than 16, and some of the behaviors described involve forcible rape, not just statutory rape

OR BECAUSE HE IS DEAD r189, and he got taken in as Singers pet when he was a child and now he is dead.

And obviously Renfro had sex (which by definition) is raped by Singer as well, he just isn't alive to tell the story. It is fascinating to finally see a glimpse into their relationship from someone else.

Yes, I believe Singer is responsible for Renfro's ultimate demise. Fucking sicko.

At the DL there were rumors about Renfro and Singer going way back.....people were saying he got the role in Apt Pupil after taking a "vacation" with Bryan

Brad Renfro was out there doing fucked up shit before he even went to Hollywood. I don’t see how you blame Singer for his demise. Nor is there any proof that Singer was fucking Renfro. You think the authors of this article didn’t explore that angle? You think they just happened to leave that part out?

Huh? They mention they have two sources who said Singer referred to Renfro as his boyfriend?

Wasn’t Renfro fucked up since before Hollywood? I’m sure Hollywood only escalated everything with all the access to drugs, alcohol and sex.

On one of the old Gossip threads there was a poster who appeared to have some insider gossip on Renfo and singer. He said that the only reason Renfo got the role in Apt Pupil was because he agreed to go away on vacation with Singer and put out for him.

[QUOTE]Huh? They mention they have two sources who said Singer referred to Renfro as his boyfriend?

So what? I jokingly refer to guys as my boyfriend all the time. Doesn’t mean we’re fucking. And if the authors had a scintilla more than that to help prove Singer was raping him, they damn sure would’ve included it.

[quote]"Mr. Singer's PR rep, Mrs. Patrick Campbell, 72, replied from Barcelona: 'Molesting 13 year olds is laughed at in Europe! Only stinkfish care!'"

[Quote] I jokingly refer to guys as my boyfriend all the time

Including 14-15 year olds....?

What the actual fuck is wrong with you r199? You refer to kids as your boyfriend as a joke? I guess you do, because who would defend Singer but a pedo.

Even that big article that came out last year about Hollywood and Brad Renfro didn’t have anything about Singer molesting him.

Look, Singer defender(s) showing up doing their same song and dance. What a surprise.

I wonder if there is a two for one deal defending Singer and Spacey, it must be the same person.

Of course not r203, you could get sued for saying such a thing without solid proof.

That is why the Atlantic doesn't claim it, they just make it obvious.

I don’t like Singer, you can see the perv all over his face, but we don’t know what happened between him and Renfro.

I’m not defending Singer as a person, nor am I trying to discredit the article. Singer certainly didn’t help Brad, for sure, and he abdicated his responsibility as an adult to help stir him in the right direction, but I’m not entirely sure that Singer raped him.

Also I’m sure more than Singer had a go at Renfro. Let’s be real.

This article isn't about Renfro. Focus people. The disgusting Singer defenders are trying to distract.

Brad was such an amazing young actor that he didn’t need to sell his ass to get roles. He would’ve been successful with or without Bryan Singer’s assistance. Remember that he wasn’t discovered by Singer—he was already established well before Apt Pupil.

So you think it makes more sense that Singer and his 'boyfriend' Renfro just hung out for a couple years but never had sex?

Why Singer was so comfortable with his 'friend' he thought nothing of having sex with him on the bed, but I am sure their relation was platonic in nature and Singer was on his best behavior!

That is a bigger stretch for me to believe.

I’m not a Singer defender. I find him to be a creep. But I also know there’s NO PROOF.

If Bryan wants to fuck senior citizens let him.

[QUOTE]So you think it makes more sense that Singer and his 'boyfriend' Renfro just hung out for a couple years but never had sex?

Brad Renfro did not need Bryan Singer. He wasn’t some waiter at a pool party looking to get discovered after hitching a ride to LA. Singer had no power over him. Brad even had his own money.

"Hollywood is full of pedophiles who will vote for BR.

It will still win a handful of Oscar's"

Is this the frau-iest frau comment of all time? Clueless pearl clutchers

[Quote]Singer had no power over him

You certainly are giving a ton of agency to a 14 year old child. A bit disturbing, that's the kind of mindset predators use to justify their actions.

They aren't victims, they understand exactly what they are doing!

[QUOTE]You certainly are giving a ton of agency to a 14 year old child.

The fact is that Brad was an established actor who already worked with directors far bigger than Singer. He was not the type to keep hanging around someone who repeatedly performed unwanted sex acts on him.

Bryan raped him and you know it.

He was a messed up kid but Singer did him in- Prior to being cast in The Client, Renfro had no acting background and had been living with his grandmother in a trailer park. Director Joel Schumacher cast him after looking around the country for a "tough kid" who had the necessary life experiences to understand his character. He soon attracted a large fanbase as he continued to star in movies like Tom and Huck, The Cure and Sleepers. After 1998's Apt Pupil, however, a series of criminal arrests and stints in drug treatment limited his choice of roles.

Yes, you continue to talk about him as if he were a 30 year old adult and not a child r217. It is really weird to me.

[QUOTE]Bryan raped him and you know it.

It’s almost as if you people want to believe Singer raped him. Bryan Singer was surrounded by tons of hanger-ons who weren’t his victims. Why can’t you wrap your minds around the idea that maybe Brad was one of those guys who enjoyed his company, his parties and his drugs?

You are the one that has been attacking anyone that suggests Singer laid a hand on Renfro r221.

You seem very invested in defending him, I see earlier you were dismissing the article and saying there was nothing of substance to it so well. Of course.

i mean, we knew ALL of this for YEARS and no one did ANYTHING about it. i HATE Bryan singer with a very deep passion.

[QUOTE]You are the one that has been attacking anyone that suggests Singer laid a hand on Renfro.

Please quote all the attacks I’ve launched against people who disagree with me. It’s a discussion forum. We’re having a debate. We don’t all need to march in lockstep in the same direction.

There's rape and then there's rape rape.

[Quote]Just finished the article. There’s nothing here.

[Quote]Singer is probably upset that they’re talking about him in the news again, but his career will be fine.

[Quote]I would imagine that many who sympathize with Singer are those who envy him for the lifestyle he had.

All from this same Singer didn't touch Renfro poster.

Singer deserves to be painted with the same brush as Spacey, Weinstein, etc. They are predators and have to answer for their actions. Of course they will try to discredit their accusers but there won't be hard evidence to exonerate them because at the end of the day, they did what they are being accused of.

[QUOTE]All from this same Singer didn't touch Renfro poster.

Right. And where did I attack anyone?

People want to believe he raped Brad Renfro so they can blame him for Brad Renfro's death and therefore wrap their outrage in the label "MURDERER."

Or maybe just maybe, I'm pointing out how you have been doing nothing but trying to attack the article and defend Singer this entire thread r228?

Good Lord these replies are a hot fucking mess

Bry's lawyers are all over this post per usual.

[QUOTE]Or maybe just maybe, I'm pointing out how you have been doing nothing but trying to attack the article and defend Singer this entire thread

I didn’t defend Singer until people started bringing up Brad Renfro.

^^^^YUP

Singer is a pederast. It is, like pedophilia, a psychosexual mental disorder that as of the current time no cure has been found for. Chemical castration has not even proven to stop these people's pathological sexual urges. There is no other solution for people like that but prison.

234 was in agreement with 232. for the record..

There's always surgical castration R235

Unlike even Weinstein, Singer is connected to seriously powerful people who will do anything to protect him. This is why the sources are mostly anonymous and no big names have come out, and he'll probably never get charged for anything.

DEN was just the tip of the iceberg.

R224 I think the rest of us agree what the definition of pedophilia is. It’s not marching in lockstep, it’s common sense. You believe children can make adult decisions and give consent. They can’t, that’s why they aren’t allowed to vote or drive or drink. That’s why actual adults aren’t allowed to offer them alcohol or drugs. But according to you if a child has been in movies and has a credit card he’s capable of making adult decisions even if he’s impaired by alcohol or drugs provided to him by the adults who should be looking out for him? That’s your argument, right? You tell that to a jury and see how it flies.

Surgical castration does no better than chemical castration. These men get off on overpowering youngsters who are smaller, younger, and less powerful than them. There are other ways of doing that that don't involve the use of their sex organs. As I said before, to date no cure, or treatment has been found to stop these people from the urge to do what they do.

It's hard for sex crimes from years ago to be taken to a criminal court, just the reality.

What matters is the court of public opinion, is Hollywood FINALLY going to ostracize him?

I think plenty of people tried to do something about Singer but they got the usual treatment that people get when they go public with an accusation of sexual misconduct: "Shut up, it never happened, and even if it did it was your fault and not a big deal." Unless, of course, the accused is someone that the powers that be view as expendable and needing to be gotten rid of.

Pedophiles are attracted to PRE-PUBESCENT children. Bryan Singer is not a pedophile. He is a pederast. Someone who is attracted to post pubescent boys who have not reached adulthood.

"Surgical castration does no better than chemical castration. These men get off on overpowering youngsters who are smaller, younger, and less powerful than them. There are other ways of doing that that don't involve the use of their sex organs. As I said before, to date no cure, or treatment has been found to stop these people from the urge to do what they do."

He's not a pedophile, most of the guys he's been with are young adults. He deserves to be in prison, though.

At this point I doubt singer is going to see one moment inside the jail cell. The best I can hope for is that his career is ruined

The only "young adult" Singer would be attracted to is one that has the appearance of someone younger. Once they look like adults he wants nothing to do with them.

OK, I concede.

I’ve always defended Singer here before, but there are too many witnesses now.

Singer is a creepy predator and Mr. Hyde who rapes teenagers.

Another vastly talented entertainer I admired revealed as evil by #MeToo.

Gross.

The silence of everyone who starred in his movies is defeaning. I guess there is still debate on whether he is *really* over and they should publicly denounce him.

It just goes to show how guys are still mortally terrified of it getting out that they are gay and engaged, willingly or unwillingly, with some sex fiend like Bryan Singer. And sadly there are plenty of people who will argue you to the death that even if Singer's victims were kids they were willing participants because they didn't speak up right after it happened.

But the fact there's no one coming out to defend him is telling, R248. Even Harvey Weinstein had his defenders at first. (I'm looking at you, Donna Karan.)

What does Hugh Jackman have to say?

Like Trump and the GOP, the studio heads won't do anything to Singer until his activities come back to hurt them.

But was their even time for reactions? I think we can only judge tomorrow.

This is a business. If his movies bomb, then he will be out of work. If he makes money, he will continue to work...somewhere in this world.

The Brad Renfro stuff IS sad, R45.

I don’t fall for the “child sex abuse is responsible for all of my crimes, failed relationships and addictions as an adult” that some of these people are trying to sell.

But Renfro isn’t trying to sell it and addictions started somewhere. Renfro could have straightened himself out. But boy — did Singer and DEN give him a mountain of shit to overcome.

Which ultimately, he didn’t.

People still trying to protect Singer, I'm glad they found another home to publish

[Quote]"We have been asked why a story reported and written by two Esquire writers is being published in The Atlantic," they said. "This story began with our editors at Esquire. After months of reporting, this story went through Esquire's editorial process, which included fact-checking and vetting by a Hearst attorney, and the story was approved for publication." They continued: "The story was then killed by Hearst executives. We do not know why.

I want him to be impaled!!

IMPALE THIS MOTHER FUCKER!

WOW ^

[quote]i mean, we knew ALL of this for YEARS and no one did ANYTHING about it.

Not ALL of us knew; I for one had my head down, preparing for the role of a lifetime. Bryan could've walked around the set with a different twink spinning on his dick every day and I wouldn't have noticed, that's how focused I was!

I had NO idea! I thought Bryan was a straight dude like me!

R243 you’re splitting hairs. And in my country we don’t use the word pederast. That word is just used to minimise the crime of pedophilia. As though an adult fiddling with a 14 year old is not as serious as fiddling with a 10 year old. “Oh he’s not a pedophile, he’s only a pederast, he likes them young but not young young so he’s not quite a monster” Where I’m from however, it’s all the same.

It really annoys me that Bryan Singer's response is to try to play the gay card and claim homophobia. How fucking dare he.

Same with Kevin Spacey trying to say the Rapp story was about admitting that he was gay.

So insulting for them to do that shit.

13 out of 20 acting nominees played real life people!

sorry wrong thread

"As though an adult fiddling with a 14 year old is not as serious as fiddling with a 10 year old. “Oh he’s not a pedophile, he’s only a pederast, he likes them young but not young young so he’s not quite a monster” Where I’m from however, it’s all the same."

Where are you from? Because in the US, states have laws that penalize people who abuse prepubescent kids harsher than people who abuse older kids.

R195 ("Brad Renfro was out there doing fucked up shit before he even went to Hollywood. I don’t see how you blame Singer for his demise.") do you mean that because Renfro was fucked up before he went to Hollywood--what exactly? It isn't tragic? I ask because victims are usually treated as pieces of shit. Only raping a virgin is 100% not going to meet with any what aboutism. If Renfro was fucked up before Hollywood, and it seems he was, it's all the more tragic that BS picked him out as a likely victim and one who wouldn't stir enough sympathy in people who consider young victims damaged goods.

In ancient Greece his kind of behavior was embraced. Open your minds. Love is love.

So was slavery and considering women as property r267.

We've evolved.

EXCUSE ME. Not all of us think those were bad things, respect that!

[quote]In ancient Greece his kind of behavior was embraced. Open your minds. Love is love.

That's because you're an old fart attracted to someone who isn't a full-grown adult and you want to believe so desperately that a 17 year old is just clamoring to be with a 50 year old for "love." Are you really this delusional about yourself? No teenager -unless they're really fucked up- isn't into a man or woman who is even older than their parents.

is* into

The A.bbe.y wasn't 21-and-over back in the 90s. I know, I was there all the time when I was coming out. It was just a coffee shop, very cool spot to meet college aged guys. I used to see Bryan Singer there, he was shooting USUAL SUSPECTS at the time. I knew many of his coterie.

Poor Tommy....Too stupid to realize what his husbands friendship with Bryan Singer was about? Tommy = when you think it's a "coincidence" your decades older husband married someone who looks like a teenager.

[Quote]husband married someone who looks like a teenager.

When they started dating Daley was 18, barely legal.

[R243] Attempt to reason with these hysterical, moralistic queens at your own risk. They prefer mob justice over due process, drawing knee jerk conclusions over scrupulous review of evidence, scarlet letters over moral comlpxiity, etc. Today they are determined to sink their pitchforks into Bryan Singer, tomorrow it will be someone else. They don’t believe in free choice or existential realities - everyone is either a predator or a victim. Oh - and even though Drudge is the most legitimate and respected online news source in the country (operated by a gay man, btw.) only “deplorables” read it. You dealing with a bunch of elderly, narrow-minded, out of touch scolds who will never be amenable to reason or debate. Gotta love DL - it a good barometer of the moral and Intellectual decline of the gay community.

Well good for your country R261. Both crimes (pederasty and pedophilia) are heinous crimes, but I'm sorry, a grown man having sex with a 3 year old boy to most anyone with a brains is worse than a grown man having sex with a 17 year old boy, someone who is about to enter adulthood.

r275, you are the one who lacks reason if you are using a gossip board to make generalizations about the entire gay community. And if you like Matt Drudge and the Drudge Report you clearly aren't a bright person. Drudge is a self-hating gay, not some sort of gay rights pioneer.

Singer's days as an A-list director are over due to his addictions and unreliability. I don't think he's being protected anymore, which is why this article was allowed to go to press. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they totally throw him to the wolves on this one, and he's completely cast out of Hollywood and allowed to face legal consequences.

Try telling that to the producers of Red Sonja r278. They just hired him to direct for millions of $. Even knowing all the shit about him and what was going to come out. Whorewood never changes.

The craziest thing about this thread is that random Drudge fanatic that came out of nowhere.

Pedophilia was murdered in that cellar with the rest of the Romanovs.

R274 He was also a regular at Singers "parties"....Thankfully Lance found his RICH soulmate....

The Drudge Report looks like html written in in notepad. Why is it so visually shitty in 2019 if this guy has so much money and readers and influence?

R275 Bry's lawyer. Save it for your closing argument to the jury.

R282 until Daley starts looking 30, then his twunk ass will be back in the UK while DLB grooms that baby.

Did Singer ever meet cute little Timmy Chalamet ?

R276 here it’s not a crime to have sex with a 17 year old if you are also a within his age range and not in a position of power. If, however, that 17 year old is your employee or in your care, plied with alcohol or drugs, emotional or intellectually vulnerable then yes you could get in trouble. But any adult having sex with a child (under 16) can face jail time. Because it’s not the age of the victim that matters but the act of abuse. Molest a 3 year old or a 12 year old and it’s all molestation. The act and the intent is the same.

R275 make no mistake, I think Bryan Singer is a disgusting sex fiend who should be drawn and quartered. He's a sick piece of work. I didn't try to reason with anyone. I'm just a stickler for accuracy. Pederasty and pedophilia are two different psychosexual disorders. Yes, as I said above I believe an adult to sexually penetrates a 3 year old boy is sicker than an adult who sexually penetrates a 17 year old boy. But I also believe that both acts are deserving of long prison terms.

Ed Buck is being exposed and he was untouchable too, for decades.

Birds of a feather....

Brandon Routh in R291 looks so good...

Noah Galvin dropped Bryan Singer info back in 2016.......For Bryan Singer to cry "homophobia" is an insult....

This Singer stuff has been known in the WEHO community for years......many young guys back in the late 1990's/early 2000's would get invited to the pool parties and other events........

DL has been talking about it since then as well r295.

There is a difference between inviting young guys to pool parties and raping 15 year olds, or molesting 13 year olds throughout a whole workday. "The Singer stuff" isn't exactly a very precise term.

R56 He probably lives them because they're desperate and more vulnerable.

R297 -----Are YOU Bryan Singer?

Christ, just STFU, R275 and stop playing martyr for the gays, you hypocrite, because you know damned well that this site has spent years questioning Aaron whateverthefuckhisnameis's sexuality for being with a much older woman, because it's simply preposterous to believe he would be attracted to someone that much older than him, yet you believe that a 17 year old gay guy would be physically-attracted to the average 40+ year old man. Stop playing the homophobia card. This isn't even about the legality when it comes to a 17 yo. We're talking about the fact that there is seriously something wrong with a full-grown adult regardless of gender/sexuality not even capable of being attracted to someone who is out of their fucking teens. Like how the fuck is someone who is 21 yo a bridge too far for someone in their 50s who's busy pursuing a 16/17 yo? You want to normalize the arrested development of grown adults solely because they're gay when you know the reaction would be the same with heterosexuals as has already been proven with that Aaron guy.

[quote]BR won the GG a month ago. Did anyone in Hollywood not know about Singer then?

The GGs are voted upon by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, a bunch of foreign 'journalists', not people in the industry.

[quote]even though Drudge is the most legitimate and respected online news source in the country

What the fucking fuck. R275 is completely insane.

What kind of work has he done on his face? And what about his size meat info?

r299 That doesn't seem like an appropriate reply to my post. Maybe read it again?

I'm thinking that poster has to be Drudge himself r492. No one else on the planet would say that about the Drudge report.

[quote]Mrs. Patrick Campbell, 72

Looks like she shaved a few years off.

R305, now give me winning lottery numbers since you can already see future posts

Can we stop bitching about vocabulary? Preying on minors, be they 15, 10 or 5 is fucked up.

I've worked with a few associates of BS. One a 40 year old producer who called himself 24 on Grindr and insisted to me over drinks that BS is innocent.

Also know this guy and I'm 150% sure he got paid to say this. He's quite hung too.

This has all been orchestrated by the “A Star is Born” camp...that cunt Cooper!

The "no proof!" shriekers really take the cake.

You could show them Bryan Singer's pecker tracks on a 14-year-old boy's sphincter and they wouldn't believe it.

Ian McKellen has stayed out of it, it seems.

He and Kevin Spacey should do a vaudeville act.

I've lived in LA for about 7 years. If you go to a party with cute young aspiring actors, they'll likely have stories about being hit on by Bryan, if not worse. I went with a buddy to a party and they started talking about Bryan. My buddy (who used to be very sexy but has put on weight in recent years) claims BS offered him a lead role in X2 if he put out. He did not. One of HIS friends (a stunningly sexy straight guy I checked out at the whole night) also mentioned getting indecent proposals and attending a Singer party but leaving with his ass intact.

The Entwins are obnoxious snobs.

She looks awful at R308 like a demi-butch lesbian

Im not convince SInger s career is over if the entertainmnet industry thinks Singer can still make them a buck. My hunch is Geffen was on the edges of all of this not to mention Roland Emmerich and others.

[quote] No dear, it's an equally disgusting hebophile. Expand your vocabulary.

Do you mean HEBEPHILE or EPHEBOPHILE? You might do well to expand your spelling abilities before you lecture us about why we shouldn't call you a pedo.

R315 Singer has also been fucking up on sets. He's done.

R25 what in the name of rkelly are you talking about it's not known who won the Oscar but it's decided.Singer was fired so if anything it would help.Must be Gag fans

I wonder if this could reflect badly on twink Olympic diver Chris Mears who there used to be a busy thread on here about his association with Singer?

R319, has Chris’s mussy been violated?

Between Bryan Singer and Jared and Ivanka, Hugh Jackman has questionable taste in friends.

"it a good barometer of the moral and Intellectual decline of the gay community."

Agree with your post, R275, but I think it is more fraus than actual gays. I prefer to think so anyway.

some interesting names here

[quote]Today they are determined to sink their pitchforks into Bryan Singer, tomorrow it will be someone else.

Actually, I'm hoping that tomorrow will be Bryan Singer too. There's way too much evidence out there for us to let him to get off scot-free.

Wasn't Henry Cavill a frequent guest at Singer's parties? Has he ever said anything?

Do people get that this asshole is essentially a gay version of R. Kelly? No normal person will ever think it's acceptable to be a grown person who's into teens. You can't normalize it and constantly chalk up the reaction to hating gays when a 45yo man with a 17yo girl would get the same reaction.

If Brad Pitt suddenly started dating some 17yo girl, you think people would have a positive reaction to it? Grow up and accept that no 17yo is genuinely lusting for your 50yo ass.

Why does 17 even get repeated.

The bigger allegations in the reporting are the 13 year old and the 15 year old.

R72 and R74 Actually that's not the Abbey, that was halloween weekend in New Orleans at Oz in 2012. It was 18 and up at the time. I worked there in 2012 and remember the big hullabaloo about Singer.

[quote]it a good barometer of the moral and Intellectual decline of the gay community."

You're doing the Nazi/Trump/Republican thing of projecting onto the opposition that which is actually true of yourself, and not them.

If Brad Pitt suddenly started dating some 17yo girl, you think people would have a positive reaction to it?

Didn't hurt Paul Walker.

Has Bryan ever “dated” an ADULT???

r327, I'm just saying it for those who want to pretend the other allegations don't exist. The attempt to normalize this shit because the person is *technically* legal. I mean the creeps who know the age of consent in every state/country just freak me the fuck out.

R331 when he came out as bi when the first real accusations were leveled at him (this whole thing is de ja vue that happens every couple of years and then it goes away) he said he had had many girlfriends so maybe he likes women of legal age......

HE is such a piece of shit on so manu layers and like Harvey there are so many actors who knew and have never said anything but you bet your ass they will be vocal in their disgust and “shock” if this gets real traction.

I wonder if Bryan will if the heat gets turned up and he's rejected by Hollywood will start throwing some actors under the bus I mean for avoidance of doubt adult actors who have slept with him for roles eg Ben Hardy, Tye Sheridan and the British guy who starred in TV series Skins?

You can just shut up about Polanski and Allen, r124.

Each man has a different case with different circumstances and they're different from Bryan Singer's.

Polanski's case is so old that even his victim has forgiven him. And the whole point of #MeToo is that Hollywood is CHANGING how it handles criminally accused people from now on. So quit trying to crucify 2002 Hollywood -- they're not giving Polanski work anymore!

And Woody Allen has been exonerated, in my opinion, after all the sordid tales about Mia and Dylan Farrow coming out from immediate family members who witnessed everything, disbelieve Dylan and hated Mia, then killed themselves over it.

You're just a mob with pitchforks and you need to have SEVERAL fucking seats.

He will be difficult to insure, but a well-connected and well-liked friend will personally ensure he has a comeback 3-5 years from now.

4 years tops. ^

Why would they R336? His biggest crime in the eyes of the industry is that he can't keep an eye on the job. Walking off Bohemian Rhapsody is probably worse for his career than his sex crimes.

more background

Wrong, r140.

Victor Valdovinos went on the record and his story is new. Egan was always public. Marc Collins-Rector was convicted by the same people making similar allegations. Singer is always photographed with and acknowledging sexual relationships with very young twinks, one of whom I knew. Ditto dozens of on-the-record witnesses of Singer supplying underage twinks with drugs and alcohol; abusing drugs.

There are too many accusations from people on-the-record and willing to sue / press charges, regardless of the anonymous sources.

I hope a lot of well-known and well-connected rich and famous men go down with him. They've been getting away with this shit for far too long.

He's going to be poison soon, so any actor better think long and hard (too easy, let it be) before working with him.

Not true, R54, Allen cannot get his work released. Took a while but his career is finished.

"He and Kevin Spacey should do a vaudeville act."

They're two wild and crazy guys!!!!

"He and Kevin Spacey should do a vaudeville act."

But that would only get old people in the audience. I think they'd prefer to do a Disney thing like "The Suite Life of Bryan and Kev"

Matt Drudge is a closeted, self-bashing homo.

Hopefully, r174 realizes this.

[quote]But that would only get old people in the audience. I think they'd prefer to do a Disney thing like "The Suite Life of Bryan and Kev"

I'll produce — and cast!

Does Drudge still wear that dumb hat to cover the bald?

David Geffen has nothing to do with this, tinhat @ r177, other than being another gay man with more power, success and money than you do.

[quote] I'll produce — and cast!—Dan Schneider

And no doubt lots of shooting of their "feets" from what I hear about you, Dan.

[quote]the everyday average American, who gets their news from the Drudge Report.

Not even at Drudge's peak, which was 15 years ago.

Maybe r189 doesn't know that Renfro died a semi-homeless drug addict.

Hi, Matt! You're still pathetic unfuckable little homo. And, no, nobody has cared about you since 2006.

And "an intellectual"??? To quote Karen Walker: oh, honey... no!

[quote]Matt Drudge is not closeted or “self-hating.” I know it angers you when gay intellectuals go “off-script”

"Gay intellectual"

r353, you aren't an intellectual, and neither is Drudge. You are a dumb Log Cabinette, and Drudge is DEFINITELY closeted and self-hating:

Oh, people are calling for chemical and surgical castration again?

Why not racks, pits and pendulums, too?

I thought we were waiting for one from Esquire.

r359, Hearst killed the article at Esquire so the writers took it to The Atlantic

r261 is from St. Olaf.

[quote]Hearst killed the article at Esquire

DEATH TO THE FASCIST INSECT THAT PRAYS UPON THE LIFE OF BRYAN SINGER

F/F the pro-rape and slavery troll @ r269.

I'd like to know how these guys like Singer find time and energy for all these parties and sex with young guys? Directing films and all the other projects they work on is tough work. Is it the drugs? I mean I have a stressful full time job, I'd never be able to keep up with all this partying, etc. Not defending him and the others in the least by the way. Those poor young guys snared into the web of pedos is terrible. What makes it more frightening is that it was all so cold and calculated. It seems some of them didn't have a chance.

According to the article, he also physically abused his twinks, there's a bit about him dragging one chicken around by his hair

[quote] Not true, [R54], Allen cannot get his work released. Took a while but his career is finished.

He's 83, ffs. His career was hardly cut short in its prime. I'd agree, however, that it's ridiculous to whine that going after Singer is homophobic because Woody Allen and Roman Polanski got to keep working. Those were different times and in the past few years, plenty of straight pervs have been taken down.

Yes, r334.

All your delusional conspiracy theories and envy-driven projections will come true.

Who the fuck is envious of the bloated lizard faced peter pan pedo? Grow the fuck up

Oooh, color me heartbroken that you've discovered I'm a "non-playable character," r353.

In contrast to you, who's easily played by anybody, especially corporate and evangelical predators in the Republican Party.

Real "intelligent" and principled.

Matt Drudge just got red tagged by Muriel. Love you dear.

R356, suddenly I'm transported to the Algonquin Round Table after having read that "intellectual" thought.

Drudge is an intellectual? Jesus fucking Christ has someone sunk to rock-bottom when that turd is your standard.

He must be reading the datalounge:

LOL at the Drudge troll who doesn't know the difference between 'dissident' and 'dissent'. Gay intellectuals, indeed.

Rami knew.

R43 no it's not you fucking pizza gate moron piece of shit.

[quote]when he came out as bi when the first real accusations were leveled at him (this whole thing is de ja vue that happens every couple of years and then it goes away) he said he had had many girlfriends so maybe he likes women of legal age......

De ja vue?

Believing what Brian Singer said about being bi?

God, some of you are too stupid to live.

It amuses me that Marc Collins Rectum wore the cheapest Ratty Korean Wig ever.

It looks as if he just reached into the dishwasher, pulled it out and plopped it on his head with a mirror.

Rami Malek DENIES ever hearing ANY allegations against Bryan Singer.....What a fake ass cop out.......No Oscar for this closeted mutant....

It's silly for him to call the accusations homophobic since at least one of the accusers is gay

R379, yet he’s anonymous.

R379 ----Exactly!!

I am sick to death of teens saying they are too damn stupid to say yes or no to an adult who wants to have sex with them. I was old enough and wise enough by the time I was 12 to know know how to say no and to stay away from these bastards and I did not have to go home crying to mom. Why do we make excuses for whiny guys who decided they wanted to have sex with a creep?

r379, The charge against BS is largely being led by gay men all desperate to out-SJW each other.

Personally, I guess it's a "coincidence" that every X-Men reboot the characters got younger and younger.....?

r383, and yet he claims that this is all the result of homophobia from straight people. The Singer defenders need to get their stories straight.

The people on this thread are fraus who have no morals and don't expect their children to be responsible for themselves. I would have never thought of hanging with an adult, just to see what I could get out of him.

r386, the ones with no morals are the ones like you who defend rapists and child molesters. You apparently don't expect adults to be responsible for themselves

Quote from the article: "He says he was passed around among the adult men in Singer’s social circle."

Anyone know which guys he's talking about?

Still no defense of Bryan Singer from Lucas Till or Evan Peters or MacCavoy?

"don't expect their children to be responsible for themselves"? r386, are you kidding? How much is Bryan Singer paying you to say such ridiculousness?

Underage people may be more sophisticated than they used to be due to society advancing, but they're still prone to bad decisions based on immaturity and incomplete emotional development. Adults are supposed to know better. That's why when adults do something to underage people, they generally take the blame.

This victim-blaming from you and others on here is truly repulsive in the worst way, but I know it's likely coming from a) underage boy enthusiasts, b) defenders of underage boy enthusiasts, or c) people on Singer's payroll. Therefore, I'm glad most people on here don't take it seriously.

R387, rape is violent and brutal. I simply do not believe these boys were raped and I wonder if these guys ever thought to use the word no, or even to punch the guy in the face. For you to pretend that none of these young men could take care of them selves and knew their own minds.

[quote]I simply do not believe these boys were raped

Well, that settles that.

Block that troll who keeps defending this pedo.

No wonder so many 25 year Olds are still living at home, still pretending to be babies. Their parents told them they did not have to take responsibility for their own actions.

I truly wonder if Bryan Singer is posting on this thread.. Sure is a lot of "blame the victim" going on....At this rate someone's going to label DL as "homophobia".

Dustin Lance Black didn't hesitate to criticize Weinstein. Interesting how he's gone silent on his good friend Singer. Hypocrisy is fascinating.

All I know is that two people were involved, two bodies, two minds and two people with intentions. Is Singer a big guy , well muscled and able to take on young strong teens?

Men have been bothering young teen girls forever. Men are a lot stronger than girls. Young teen boys are strong.

SIN.....It's right there in my name people!!-------Bryan SINger......

I have a great deal of disdain and disrespect for men like Singer but I also have great disrespect for parents who do not teach their children to have respect for themselves.

This tweet is from 2014

DLB being called out for his hypocrisy after condemning Weinstein:

I had no idea about this either.

Lol at Dustin "I dated an 18 year old at 40" condemning BryBry

[quote]rape is violent and brutal.

Not necessarily. It takes various forms. What it is above all is a violation not only of the body but the mind along with it. It's scary how utterly clueless some of you are about the nature of sexual abuse and assault, yet are absolutely convinced that you're right and everybody else is wrong. The Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.

Dlb is not really any different I believe. What grown ass man goes for a barely legal teenager like Tom as a bf? Who at the time was a closet case and desperately needing a father figure after his dad died?

I mean I am partial to a twink or 2 but even at 25 I don’t think I could date an 18 year old. 20 sure....

Did singer refer to Ethan Hawke as a childhood friend? Hawke is 5 years younger than singer which would put Hawke in the 7th grade around the time singer would’ve been a senior in high school.

Oh, is Ethan the first victim? He sure was a cute kid.

Did he not having any true friends to confront him? No adult has parties with high schoolers, drugs and alcohol without abuse. BS only has accomplices...and now lawyers. Too many simliar accusations to ignore. His name is mud. Bankruptcy and loneliness are his future. I was hoping the allegations were false, but they’re too credible and too many. Talent wasted, youth stolen, trust violated. No one is winning here. Other than a full admission, not sure what is helpful to all those affected. Money has to be drying up soon. The 30 and 40 somethings in the article still sound like lost adolescents

I couldn't believe it a few years ago when USC named the Critical Studies film program (the one he went to) the Brian Singer Critical Studies Department. Money really talks I guess. I noticed they took his name off the program last year or so. BTW they renamed the program long for him not that long ago, well after all these allegations have come out.

(although I guess college age boys who go to USC would probably be too old for Singer so maybe no harm was done there.)

Loving this story.

That sick fuck also screwed around with an underage Kodi Smit-Mcphee.

R43, a handful of Oscar's what?

Does anyone have any idea what happened to Michael Egan? In 2015 he got sentenced to two years in prison, so he should be out by now.

He's been pretty silent with all the new allegations. My guess is that Singer's people gave him a big payout after jail to keep him from talking again in the future. He declined it the first time in 2014, but after seeing how much power Singer has he probably just figured this time, fuck it (which is understandable).

I know someone who worked with Bryan. He is indeed a cunt, pervert, coke head and totally useless at his job.

I didn’t even finish the article in The Atlantic. I know this story by heart, as they say.

I’m DL’s “Den Insider”, however, allow me to point out that I’m not the only Den Insider on DL. I know for a fact that there are others here who participate regularly on DL, because I know these people personally, & some of us worked at DEN together, while all of this shit was happening. And also allow me to point out that my former coworkers aren’t a bunch of fucked up losers. When we were recruited for employment at DEN, we all had good jobs, and we wanted to be part of something that was at that time, going to change the way that a certain demographic consumed entertainment. We had top companies investing in our possible and up coming success. We worked long hours, leaving our DEN warehouse in Santa Monica at 1:00 or 2:00 am, and getting up at the crack of dawn to do it all over again, day in, and day out.

We wanted the company to succeed, and even though the tech to make it all work out as envisioned wasn’t altogether there yet, we felt like we could eventually make this work.

Imagine the disappointment we all encountered, when everything came crashing down because a couple of assholes couldn’t keep their dicks in their pants, specifically for the purpose of molesting and raping teenagers from the Philippines, or small towns all across America.

All of this shit is true, and Bryan, if you or some of you other DEN predators (David N.) are reading this, you know that this is ALL TRUE, & and then some.

Personally, I don’t understand how Bryan hasn’t had the LAPD, or the FBI cuff him, and lock his ass up. I’d venture to say that there are large sums of money, and/or “gifts” exchanging hands, because the facts are that any other sexual predator out there without clout, or cash, would have been locked up long ago.

Personally, I don’t give one flying fuck if men in their mid 50s want to run around with 18 year olds. There’s definitely something going on with a person who cannot relate to, or have healthy relationships with others in their own age group, so yeah, people will raise eyebrows, and shake their damn heads in pity, but hey, whatever. But explicitly pursuing 14 year olds who come from broken homes, or dysfunctional homes or poverty, is not only criminal, but really fucking sick and predatory. And yet, here we are, reading a story, AGAIN, that we have all known about for well over 20 years.

Hmmm... 🤔

Are we now expecting the dams to break and a flood of new information and allegations to emerge?

[quote]’m not a Singer defender. I find him to be a creep. But I also know there’s NO PROOF.

Oh, my sides.

The Kids in Super 8 and School of Rock Were Cast by a Convicted Pedophile and Leonardo DiCaprio’s Childhood Manager Sexually Assaulted a 13-Year-Old. Pedowood.

Did Renfro’s parents look the other way? Like Lindsay Lohan’s parents?

He grew up in a trailerpark with his grandmother. Your question simply does not apply.

Look the other way? Some parents sell their kids out for those Hollywood paychecks. Look at Amanda Bynes. No way she wasn’t raped while working under the pedos at Nickelodeon.

Wasn’t Renfro living with his Grandma in a trailer? Poor woman probably had no idea about anything going on.

One that I will say “turned the cheek” were the parents of Jamie Lynn Spears, who suddenly got pregnant at 16 while working for Nickelodeon. She claims her daughter was her teenage boyfriends but many blind items and people at the time believed it was one of the Nickelodeon heads that got her pregnant, and the one suspected left Nickelodeon not long after I believe.

I still believe her parents knew and they got paid off to go with the teen boy story.

Well I just read through the whole thread. Interesting. Though the most shocking part was there is someone who doesn't believe the Drudge Report is one of the most viewed websites in the world.

[quote]even at 25 I don’t think I could date an 18 year old.

I had a 17 year old stealth-date me when I was 27. Seriously. He looked older than I did.

I only realized, and checked out his driver's license while he was in the shower, because he didn't get enough of my pop culture references (clueless about the Beatles and JFK). I don't think he's still alive. (He has an uncommon enough name, I think I'd be able to find him if he were.)

[quote]Personally, I don’t give one flying fuck if men in their mid 50s want to run around with 18 year olds.

Run around?! It’s called *mentoring*, you philistine!

Bryan Singer has GAY LIPS!

And Eyes!

Singer looks like a creep

Except these guys aren’t trying to date these teens, R424. They’re just screwing them and passing them around.

And let’s look at this as if they were attempting to “date” these teens. What kind of relationship are you, as an adult, really attempting to develop with 17 or 18 year olds? I get the physical attraction thing. Of course young men and women look fucking great at 18. Most people do, and even more so if they happen to be beautiful.

That being said, even this, only goes so far.

What is a 30, 40, 50 year old person really looking for, aside from sex, when dating teenagers? Power and control. That’s really the bottom line.

It’s just SOOOO fucking easy to manipulate a teenager or a very young adult. It’s definitely akin to grooming a kid, I’d venture to say. I mean, what kind of pushback are you going to get from an 18 year old, that you, as an experienced 50 year old, can’t handle?

People who seek these specific dynamics out, are control freaks who do not appreciate the word “No”. They are poorly equipped to mitigate the intimate relationship dynamics that could possibly occur with their peers, and even if they tried to engage their emotional and intellectual equals, they would find it distasteful, or fail miserably, because the only thing that these types hate more than the process of aging that we all go through, is the word NO.

LOL, R425!

The Singer defenders are pretty funny "Why there is nothing wrong with him hiring a 13 year old as an extra and them sexually assaulting him!"

Gurl, give it up already. No one is buying what you are selling. I've been reading that N@MBLA defense that boys can't be taken advantage of for years here from a couple people and you embarrass yourself.

Do you think Bryan Singer enjoyed Call Me By Your Name?

Bryan must have been so disappointed to find out "Eighth Grade" was about a girl.

i don't understand the argument that because past abusers got away with it then no abuser should be held accountable - you have to start sometime and the culture has changed.

i don't understand the argument that the teenagers share blame - all teenagers are horny as hell, but you're the adult and supposed to know better or at least be able to restrain yourself.

Nope, R432. Chalamet probably looks way too old for Singer, and as far as Singer’s concerned, Hammer’s only a few steps away from being embalmed.

Singer is - again - accused of the violent rape of a kid. Also the molestation of the 13 year old extra starting in the morning. We don't even need to discuss grey areas and age of consent. He is a dangerous predator.

I bet Singer faps away to The Tin Drum. Nasty perv.

r429 is right. These people aren't looking for mutually satisfying sex with equals who just happen to be tragically underage. They want fucktoys they can use for their own enjoyment and then afterwards not only get rid of but intimidate into pretending it never happened. Nothing healthy or life-affirming here.

Shit, good catch, R706.

R439 has VISION, no?

R440 I think R439 meant reply 406.

No, I meant what I posted.

You’ll see.

Meant R406

Hope Hawk did a better job protecting his own kids

Go away, R442

[quote]I am sick to death of teens saying they are too damn stupid to say yes or no to an adult who wants to have sex with them. I was old enough and wise enough by the time I was 12 to know know how to say no and to stay away from these bastards and I did not have to go home crying to mom. Why do we make excuses for whiny guys who decided they wanted to have sex with a creep?

Because there are laws against it, Dora Dumfuck.

He's a PEDOPHILE! = what a disgusting, and sordid, scandal!

He's a sleaze who gives minors access to drugs and alcohol and then sexually assaults them = *shoulder shrug* meh!

Sadly we have become so jaded and desensitized that people need to get whipped into a frenzy with scandalous buzzwords to keep caring about such entertainment gossip and news.

Michele Clunie is a tragically stupid, stupid woman. She willingly sold herself to the devil incarnate for 30 pieces of silver. How much did/does this scum sucking pig pay her for agreeing to incubate and babysit his demon spawn? No way BS should be allowed anywhere near that kid (a boy, of course). He should be taken away from both of them.

BTW--Clunie's Insta is private. I have to think it's because she constantly gets harassed on SM to answer for herself. She claims to be an "activist". For what? Pedo rights?

Well, young Brad Renfro and Ethan Hawke are like twins

Anonymous accusers have no credibility. Egan admitted he lied and had never met Singer. Singer had no involvement with Mark Collins Rector or the DEN guys. The "rumors" stem back to blind items and homophobic esquire articles from the 90s. The fact that people are use pictures of him posing with femme gay men who are over the age of 18 as "proof" that he's a pedophle is clearly homophobic. There's a pic of hm with a twnk that is BALDING and people say is under 18. Gay men are the worst sjws imaginable.

r254 CORRECT. money talks. money can buy, save anything and anyone.

Wow the Singer defenders are out in full force.

Meanwhile, An Open Secret’s producers and Enty Lawyer are over the moon about this, despite the article making zero mention of them. One has to wonder if the writers took a look at their Twitter history and realize no one would believe them if they were mentioned. Can’t wait to see their egos blow up.

[quote]Egan admitted he lied and had never met Singer.

Nope

[quote]Singer had no involvement with Mark Collins Rector or the DEN guys

Nope

[quote]Egan admitted he lied and had never met Singer.

He did not, liar.

his creepy face says it all. only a few people have good judge of character i see.

It's clear that gay men are the easiest to frame and false fully accuse. That article is a bunch of anonymous sources and failed lawsuits, nothing new, and everyone is taking it as gospel without the smallest grain of salt. That kind of shit wouldn't fly if the director had been straight.

^^^sad.

""Those withdrawals came as the cases — which claimed teen sex abuse at parties at Hawaii and Los Angeles mansions from 1997 to 1999 — appeared to collapse under the weight of Egan's own prior sworn statements from 2003, in which he said that he'd never been to Hawaii and that no one other than the occupants of the Los Angeles mansion had sexually molested him. He had even signed a statement in 2003 that he'd never had sexual contact with Neuman. In addition, several of the defendants filed evidence such as credit card receipts and witness declarations to show that they hadn't been in Hawaii during the period in question."

[quote]It's clear that gay men are the easiest to frame and false fully accuse.

If that were true, Bryan, you would have been in jail 20 yrs ago. Even if you never go to jail though, it's so satisfying knowing your reputation has been destroyed and you're suffering such intense humiliation for your sick deeds.

Egan is a proven con artist

r48, He didn't go to jail because there was no provable criminal offense, back then or now.. In fact there was great evidence to the contrary of what he was accused of back then.

The court of public opinion is notoriously homophobic. No proof or evidence needed when it come to burning a gay man.

really going to bat for bryan singer. like he's really done some good for the world. he makes crappy movies. no wonder the world is what it is.

"Where were the parents?????"

From the OP article-

[quote] The portrait of Singer that emerges is of a troubled man who surrounded himself with vulnerable teenage boys, many of them estranged from their families.

Serial killer John Wayne Gacy used a similar approach. He targeted young boys who were run-aways, who had no one. The boys were missing before he killed them and missing after he killed them, so no difference. He finally got caught when he killed a young boy in his town who he was "interviewing" for a job. The boy's parents knew something was wrong when he never came home that day, and they knew he was at Gacy's interviewing for a job.

We're not saying Singer = Gacy, just that they both had a similar modus operandi.

Why do people insist on defending him here?!

Interesting enough, Amy Berg congratulated the writers on the article, but no mention was made of An Open Secret. Goes to show how much Gabe Hoffman butchered it and put his ego above the safety of Singer’s victims.

R447, I've wondered about Michelle Clunie a lot through this. She was a working actress for years prior to Queer as Folk - lots of guest appearances, etc, but she was making a living. Then she had her run on that show, and after that her career seemed to dry up. Is that why she entangled herself with Singer - she needed the money? You'd have thought as part if their agreement she'd have tried to get him to help her career. It's incredibly hard to believe that she is clueless about all this. What a weird situation for her to end up in.

Drudge Report is the Fox News of Internet news media blogs.

It's for old right wing fools feeling tech savy for having his site bookmarked in their browser they call netscape (even though it's something else like Google's Chrome or Microsoft's Edge).

According to the article Singer targeted several vulnerable teens. These weren’t empowered wealthy precocious teens (a la a that recent movie) that had the wherewithal to act as their agents capable of dealing with the consequences. These were targeted children that Singer could throw aside.

[quote]Is that why she entangled herself with Singer - she needed the money? You'd have thought as part if their agreement she'd have tried to get him to help her career.

Her career was already washed up. She's a not very attractive or talented woman of 49. She isn't getting any work anywhere. At least nothing that will support a good lifestyle. I'm sure part of her very lucrative bearding and spawning contract with BS was the requirement to be primarily care taker to Bry Jr.

She sold herself so I hope she at least got A LOT of money.

The Gacy freak sounds like a complete nut.

[quote]Does anyone have any idea what happened to Michael Egan? In 2015 he got sentenced to two years in prison, so he should be out by now.

Why did he go to jail, r413 (or anyone)?

R449: BULLSHIT A MILLION WAYS FROM SUNDAY.

I worked there, Singer pulled up all the time in his sports cars. Fuck off, asshole. I’m not a liar, and neither are all of the people who would happily back me and others up, if we were asked to engage in legal proceedings via depositions or court testimony.

Are posters even reading the article? All this stuff was talked about in the text.

Yeah i had that poster on ignore r472, so I didn't see it til now but yes everything they said is completely fabricated.

Again with the Singer defenders? The jig is up. Also, any concrete word on this Brett Schulte? I see the name and allegations thrown around by the nutters, but I can’t find him anywhere.

Please, r451. The reason why Open Secret and Enty didn't get any credit is because they hardly broke the news. If anything, Enty got a lot of his BIs from DL.

r471 A Ponzi scheme.

Open Secret was quite informative. I have the impression people are somewhat hating on it? Why?

Open Secret was great for the average person, if you've been following the Singer and DEN stuff on the DL for years though it was nothing new.

Was Hugh Jackman mentioned?

Predators prey on the weak. For the most part they wouldn't dare to go after someone with a strong mind who sees right through their bullshit and will fuck with them.

"although I guess college age boys who go to USC would probably be too old for Singer so maybe no harm was done there."

Nope, he was well known at the school for hitting on college boys

Everybody knew, including the rank and file of entertainment industry. My friend, who's a fifty-something woman working in TV production, knew about it years ago.

I see Wayne Castro is here, earning his keep.

The college boys were for his friends who are into college boys. Singer likes them looking like infants.

As for whether Bryan Singer is still directing RED SONJA, a Millennium rep is "checking" for me (7 hours later).

Honestly, people WANT Singer's baggage to taint their movie projects like Red Sonja? But an openly gay actor as (straight) lead? Way too much of a risk!

My guess, r485, is that Millennium has legal looking for an out clause and/or negotiating a way out with Singer. Theresa contract in place so letting him go isn't that simple. .

[r478] Another reason for dislike towards An Open Secret is because the producers are alt-right loons. Yes a stopped clock is right once a day, but they’ve exclusively pandered to that crowd and cite Alex Jones and Enty Lawyer as credible sources. Plus, for all their activism and rage at pedos, they sure love to support and defend rapists like Trump, Mike Cernovich and Brett Kavanaugh. They even defended Roy Moore before his pedo news cost them too many followers. They also threatened to sue one of the victims they interviewed for their film for criticizing it. So yeah, there’s quite a bit to hate about them if you glance at their Twitter feed.

Also, I’ve yet to hear what’s the scoop with this Brett Schulte figure, as he wasn’t mentioned in the article for his apparently being a ring leader and yet I see the nutters throw his name around a lot.

R481, sure.

Except there are laws in the United States and other countries, against trafficking minors across international borders and state lines, for the purpose of sex. And there are also laws against having sex with minors in all states, and although the ages may vary from state to state, it is against the law to fly or drive a 17 year old from another state, into California, in order to engage in sexual activity with said minor. And on top of that, it is also against the law to give alcohol to people under the age of 21 in any setting, for any reason, in all states, as well as drugs, other than Marijuana, in specific states where Marijuana use is recently legal, to people under the age of 21. Doing so is called contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

What the fuck do you think this is? A game?

None of us here are perfect. Surely most of us here have fucked up in one way or another. Maybe we cheated on our partner, surely most of us have called in sick to the office, and headed to the beach. This isn’t what this is. This is a group of men who are adults, getting kids and teens who were under the age of 18 completely SHIT FACED, for the sole purpose of sex and rape.

Some of you here need to reassess your values. It is not OK to fuck kids, even if they are 17 years, and 363 days old, and want it, at least not in California, where most of this shit took place. And it is also NOT OK to recruit boys who are 13 or 14 years old, from other countries, who live in poverty, and offer them “education and jobs” in the Unites States, only to have those CHILDREN arrive here, and find themselves in situations where they are being plied with alcohol and drugs regularly, so that you and your buddies can pass them around amongst each other as party favors.

JFC. What is wrong with some of you???

[quote]Singer had no involvement with Mark Collins Rector or the DEN guys.

Liar.

Google Draft DEN Bridge Financing Investor List which Buzzfeed linked to in its peerless, superb research into DEN. Bryan Singer was an investor.

Singer was even willing to settle with Egan for 100k as long as he signed a NDA, this revision of history that one troll is trying to do is hilarious.

Of course, all these details are reiterated in the Atlantic piece also.

[quote]] Another reason for dislike towards An Open Secret is because the producers are alt-right loons.

Amy Berg did that West Memphis Three doc which ignored key evidence against them. She is not trustworthy. However, Singer is a predatory sex offender.

Andy Dick. Another sick fuck who I’ve had the displeasure of meeting.

Keep him out of your lives and homes, if you know what’s good for you and your kids.

How this sick fuck keeps himself out of jail on child molestation charges is another mystery for the ages.

Oh shit, is Gus really that bad as well? I knew van Sant's no saint, but I was still hoping he'd be above Singer.

Andy Dick wouldn't stop touching Ivanka on Kimmel, security had to pull him off.

Singer and Van Sant's pals Brett Schulte and Andy Dick

Slightly off topic, but what is Andy Dick even doing for a living these days? Procurement?

We DLers knew all this shit years ago. I remember those days when Singer's minions were here 24/7 shit posting that it was a homophobic witch hunt, everyone is "sex negative", none of the victims were a day under 18, spitting hairs on what an actual pedophile is....blah, blah, blah. Lather, rinse, repeat.

It amuses me that he keeps playing that tired 'I'm a victim of homophobia" card. If anything his gayness has protected him all these years. No one wants to look like a homophobe, so he gets away with his crimes.

"No one wants to look like a homophobe, so he gets away with his crimes."

Nonsense, men who abuse boys get harsher punishments in the legal system than men who abuse girls. He got away with it because of $$$ and connections, same reason why hetero men in the business get away with abusing women

He was crowing about being bisexual and having a baby, so why is he crying homophobia now?

[quote]Here's some tea on director Gus Van Sant. He is going to be 61 this July and he is getting it in with young boys who have come to L.A for a come up. Case in point: he got it in with Skyler T a young guy from Texas who apparently ran away from Houston this past spring after getting into issues with his family and ex gf. What is he doing now? He is a cam model on cam4.com, where he is filmed wanking off to loud techno music and pretending to sing to it. In return, people (mostly men) tip him. He is also an escort as well. Gus Van Sant preyed upon him real quick and got him basically right after he arrived in L.A (see photo).He is also a cyber-playtoy to Bryan Singer, director of X-Men.

Yeah, he de-gays himself when it's convenient, then cries homophobia when it's convenient

I wonder what Matt and Ben did for Van Sant to get him to helm GOOD WILL HUNTING....but that was Weinstein’s call, wasn’t it?

But sleazy straight pedos can't whine that they're victims of oppression, can they R502?

r507, yes they can. They'll trot out the same cliches about how they're victims of "mob justice" and a "witch hunt"

[quote]Slightly off topic, but what is Andy Dick even doing for a living these days? Procurement?

Hanging around at Angelina Jolie's house. Seriously.

Gays can be sleazebags and criminals, too. There is nothing homophobic when you call people out on their sleaziness and criminal activity since that's the main focus and not the sexual identity.

R508. But not based on their "identity". Straight, white men are not in a any protected legal class, until they get old and can cry about age discrimination. Singer uses the gay card to claim he is being discriminated against. The implication (and not so subtle threat) is that a law suit will be aimed at anyone who challenges him. False equivalency. Sorry. Nice effort though.

[quote] The implication (and not so subtle threat) is that a law suit will be aimed at anyone who challenges him.

r511, in the US you can't legally sue anyone because of a so called homophobic remark. All you can hope for is that a "that's homophobic! Stop that!" threat will scare off the ones posting these so called homophobic remark.

^^{{sigh}} But you can intimidate anyone who is investigating you for crimes.

Why is Angelina Jolie allowing this freak around her kids? Why is Brad Pitt allowing it?

[quote]^^{{sigh}} But you can intimidate anyone who is investigating you for crimes.

But not with the threat to sue for being homophobic. But sure, you can threaten people to lose their jobs and careers or make their friends' or family members' lives miserable.

[quote]Why is Angelina Jolie allowing this freak around her kids? Why is Brad Pitt allowing it?

I was around guys in the '90s who were into hot boys. Nothing wrong with it, as long as everyone is 18+. No one was into skinny 16 year olds- we were into masc frat boys with developed bodies.

Not sure what to make of some of these accusations against Singer. I do know these guys saying "If only this guy didn't put this hands down my pants once for 30 seconds when I was 16 years old, I might not have turned out to be such a loser" are jokes. I mean, come on. My eyes can't roll back into my head far enough.

Bryan Singer has had a life most dream of in terms of career and being catered to. His attempt to now claim "homophobia" is ludicrous. How exactly has he been prevented from doing anything in life because he is gay? This is about rumors going back YEARS about him. He's just getting caught now like every other famous creep after years of getting away with it. Shame on anyone even mentioning he is being targeted for being gay when you know hetero scum are also finally getting held accountable. Find someone more worthy of your defense.

Except the guy is saying if he wasn't molested for a whole day when he was 13 years old, with no one helping him cope, maybe he wouldn't be such an addict. But keep downplaying.

So when is chicken-hawk supreme David Geffen's number finally up?

[quote]So when is chicken-hawk supreme David Geffen's number finally up?

Watch your language! This is my husband you're talking about!

"Geffen has an estimated net worth of $8.6 billion, making him one of the richest people in the entertainment industry."

It would take a literal act of God to touch him.

The problem isn't the money. It's the connections where others can help out to eliminate threats (by threatening to ruin them). A rich idiot without connections can be brought down quite easy when he finds himself in a situation where he can't buy himself out of.

I mean Hearst executives vetoed this story about Singer. You don't need another reminder of how powerful people can be protected.

R524 bullshit. If there were hard evidence of David Geffen being with underage guys (and there isn't because he never was) the system would take him down gleefully.

What planet do some of you people live on. I fucking hate the wacky fringe alt-right Pizza gate weirdos. You do nothing at all the further the credibility of the accusations against Singer. You only harm it with your breathless excitement. Scum.

R526 yeah and I got picked up pretty quickly, didn't it?

Why is r449 straight-up lying?

Even Bryan Singer doesn't deny Egan was once in his entourage.

Valdovinos, Sanchez-Guzman and Skopek are NOT anonymous!

Simply repeating lies won't make them true, troll.

If Hollywood wants to act as if nothing is happening, is there anything the powerless can do? This can’t be another one of those times a Singer scandal gets coverage, only to be talked about for a couple of days then buried in the news cycle and forgotten.

r455 = more lies and the Homophobia Card. He must be a gay chauvinist.

When you're 15 or 16, you may THINK you know but you really don't know and end up making poor decisions and choices.

A quick reminder that Hollywood isn't turning on Singer because he's a sexual predator preying on minors. They turn on him, because he's acting unprofessional and that makes him a liability.

You know how you can fuck with these predators? Turn them into professional liabilities so their powerful backers abandon them.

Singer freaked out about this very expose on the set of Queens and it got so much under his skin that he became a disruptive force (an even bigger than before apparently) on the set and he got fired.

If Red Sonja becomes a financial success with Bryan Singer as director from start to finish Hollywood will welcome him back with wide open arms.

[quote]I got picked up pretty quickly

Pics please.

Very true r531. People that age think they know everything, but they don't. With time and wisdom you look back and realize just how immature and clueless you were.

You don't take a 15 year old, ply them drugs and alcohol and pass them around for sex. Even if they were to tell you that is what they supposedly want.

Agreed R532 and fat chance of that happening R533

Exactly R531. I worked with indigenous youth who lived on the streets - daily. Over 90% of these boys were groomed by adults. Not just men by the way. They all acted tough but were just broken boys. When you deal with boys who have been groomed, raped and sexualized at an early age you can see it for what it is. They aren't adults and don't think like adults and they do make poor choices. But that doesn't mean they deserved to be preyed upon. I know these creeps and the way they operate. Bryan Singer is going down and it is because he has become a liability - to the profit margin. When I worked with the boys one thing became apparent. These creeps like to play together. You get really good at spotting things that give them away. One thing stands out really clearly with Bryan Singer. It was known that an expose was coming out about him, he was not performing or even turning up to work and doing what was required on Bohemian Rapsody. He was AWOL alot and during all this he was very publicly given another directing job for Red Sonja and a 10 million dollar paycheck. It's a major red flag. Almost like we have your back if you have ours type thing. Just an observation from someone who worked with boys like the victims.

Unfortunately, most movie goers do not care about the private lives of behind the scenes people, like Directors or Producers. They only care about the actors, if they like them and maybe whom they are fucking. This isn't new. Charlie Chaplin, for years one of the biggest stars in the world was known for his interest in under age woman. His career nevrr suffered. It only did when he was deemed "un American" by criticizing the US government for not recognizing the threat of Hitler sooner. As a result he was later falsely accused of being a communist. The man had $75,000,000 by the 1950's, most of it in Gold in Europe. He was not by any means a communist but he did have a very young, but not illegal wife, Oona O'Neill.

R415, Did you know Jeffrey Sachs at DEN? Was he involved, or just an investor?

[Quote]These people aren't looking for mutually satisfying sex with equals who just happen to be tragically underage. They want fucktoys they can use for their own enjoyment and then afterwards not only get rid of but intimidate into pretending it never happened.

It isn't even just discarding them, they are usually discarding them with a alcohol or drug addiction because they encourage these kids to party, party, party so they will be easier to manipulate. They are utterly destroying them.

People would have *some*s) sympathy if he was in a loving relationship with a 17 year old, no one is going to have sympathy with the way he treats these guys.

To be fair R538, were 16-17 year old girls taboo in Chaplin's day?

R537 Hurry, WalMart is having a sale on tin foil today!

R509, I’m not here to defend Jolie, nor am I a Stan, but Andy Dick was never invited to Jolie’s home. He showed up because he accompanied someone else, and went as their “plus one”.

I have no idea why anyone would bring Andy anywhere with them. But this is what Andy does: he fucks a group of people over, then when he becomes ostracized from that group, he blames all of his bad behavior on booze and drugs, & starts attending recovery group meetings, claiming that he has seen the error of his ways. He then ingratiates himself with a new group of people in the biz, who also attend these meetings, and he then hangs out with them, until he ends up fucking one of them over by borrowing money that he never pays back, or whatever. He then proceeds to start boozing and drugging again, until he fucks someone over from his boozing and drugging circle, and then proceeds to go back to his “recovery” spots.

Now, there are lots of people who relapse, and attempt to get sober again, so that in itself, is nothing out of the ordinary. What distinguishes Andy from other people who relapse, is that Andy is always out on the lookout, to see who he can scam next. He ingratiates himself ONLY to people with money, and connections, regardless of whether or not he’s sober, and he inevitably screws everyone over, especially people who genuinely want to help him get his shit together.

I am assuming that this is how Andy ended up at Jolie’s house. If his date from that evening is reading this, I suggest they NEVER, NEVER, EVER, leave Andy alone in any room of their home. They need to expertly stash their purses, wallets, and keys. Never leave him alone in the car with the engine running, even for a few seconds. Hide ALL valuables, such as jewelry and watches. Stash all prescription meds, and expensive skincare creams. Do not allow him to get anywhere near your closet, especially if you have designer items such as handbags, shoes, or leather jackets. And by all means, NEVER allow him to crash at your pad. He will never leave, and you will have to pay him to get the fuck out.

I’m not even kidding about any of this. Anyone who’s had “dealings” with Andy, who might be reading this, will agree with EVERYTHING I wrote, 100%.

[quote] They all acted tough but were just broken boys. When you deal with boys who have been groomed, raped and sexualized at an early age you can see it for what it is. They aren't adults and don't think like adults and they do make poor choices.

That can be also said about those who are raised in very religious homes or grow up in cults.

The uncomfortable truth is that most of us grow up in conditions that fuck us up in one way or the other. And I include kids who grew up in homes where they have been raised based on conditional love (if you obey I love you, if you don't obey I am going to be so very disappointed ... which creates co-dependent nutcases).

What we need to focus on is to help children to overcome their childhood trauma to so they don't grow into insecure, fucked up adults who are easy prey for snake oil salesmen like Trump or religous cult leaders.

r543 One only needs to look at Andy Dick’s Wikipedia page to know he’s a piece of shit who has been arrested for car wrecks, drug/alcohol problems and groping/indecent exposure towards underage girls. Him doing the same towards guys isn’t impossible, but being tied with Bryan Singer is new

Even Lindsay Lohan would run for the hills if she sees Andy Dick coming towards her.

Is that even physically possible R546?

Don’t forget he can be blamed for getting Phil Hartman’s wife on drugs, meaning he is responsible for their deaths.

r547, if a black guy is nearby Lindsay will make it possible.

R545, I’ve never read his Wiki, but surely his arrests are mentioned.

Andy’s involvement with Singer is NOT new.

Andy also claimed, about 10 years ago or so, to have adopted a little boy from Asia. Turns out, that the “little boy” was a man underaged teenager who was living with Andy, who Andy told everyone was his son. He even made the kid call him “Dad”.

I could write an entire thread with 600 posts, about Andy, if I got on the phone & started calling Andy’s former friends.

LMAO, R547!

I meant as in the first I’ve heard about him having ties with Singer because he’s not in any of his films. Did they have another link beyond the Brett Schulte feeder? Because I can never find anything about that beyond people mentioning it when they are involved, because it wasn’t mentioned in the article and it seems like only the nutters and people on DL mention it. Where did the Schulte story come from?

R551, I’m not sure why you need to connect these people, but here the deal:

If you want to learn all about this sordid webb, may I suggest you hit the bars in WeHo, starting with the Abbey?

Make sure to bring some crisp $20s and $100s, because money talks and bullshit walks.

That said, you have already gotten a plethora of real and true information on this treasure trove of a thread.

R551, I forgot that we cannot write out the name of the restaurant-bar where many of Singer’s former and present thinks hang out. The place is called T H E A B B E Y. Corner of Santa Monica & Robertson. Valet parking directly across the street on Robertson.

I haven’t really kept up on any of this, however I’ve always been puzzled by Egan. Does anyone know if he actually lied, or was he genuinely involved in some way with Singer and his crowd?

R554, Egan was telling the truth. He was hanging out at the Encino estate.

Now, I’m speculating here, but Egan May have been paid to tell the story with erroneous information, and then publicly recant. Great strategy if you’re a big name, and know that a bunch of other guys will be spilling the beans. Or he told some truths, and threw the airplane trip in there, in order to force Singer to pay him out a larger amount of cash.

Either way, Egan was an underaged teen when hanging out in the Encino estate, and for sure he got paid off to plant and recant his story, or got paid to drop charges and recant the story.

Singer stays on Red Sonja, btw.

I mean Egan was involved in the DEN scene.

[quote]He was a regular at the DEN estate and appeared on one of the company’s shows, Royal Standard. (The senior-level employee who recounted the party where underage boys had been shown porn also recalls once seeing Egan—so high that he could barely stand up—getting out of a limo with four DEN executives.) Before withdrawing his lawsuits, Egan passed a polygraph and was interviewed for nearly seven hours by a psychiatrist, who found him to be credible. At one point, Singer agreed to pay Egan a $100,000 settlement, but Egan rejected the offer, refusing to sign a nondisclosure agreement

The discrepancies in Egan's statements that were attacked were about trips to Hawaii, and Egan got busted through his involvement with another ponzi scheme operation which led people to try to invalidate everything he evey said. I mean, the dude isn't an angel, he is a uneducated drug addict grifter who spent his youth in the DEN house.

He was involved. He seemingly just messed up the dates and places of his abuse, likely because he swam in drugs. Dirty lawyers and Hollywood problem solvers did the rest.

I'm TRULY surprised. Not because of the sex crimes, but because he was such a mess on Bohemian Rhapsody. The film succeeded in SPITE of him, not because.

I don't know-know, but I'm pretty sure he did two years in prison because he tried to take down Singer.

[quote]I could write an entire thread with 600 posts, about Andy, if I got on the phone & started calling Andy’s former friends.

Please do, R550. That sounds like it would be a juicy gossip thread.

One of the producers of Red Sonja channels Donald Trump when he justifies continuing with Bryan Singer-

[quote] "The over $800 million Bohemian Rhapsody has grossed, making it the highest grossing drama in film history, is testament to his remarkable vision and acumen. I know the difference between agenda driven fake news and reality....

Ha, and reality can be counted in Dollars of course.

Damn, heart breaking. I feel sorry for the victims who risked everything to actually go on the record thinking it would make a difference, and nada. Singer marches on.

Nah, he's badly wounded. And there are many, many more victims who can come forward.I don't think he'll ever sleep very well again.

Thanks for that, r555.

Badly wounded? No one of significance has even spoken out against him, and he is keeping his current 10 million dollar job of directing Red Sonja. I wish I could be that "badly wounded"

Why can't we have a Weinstein-level outpouring of stories with Singer? Nobody is coming forward with ANYTHING. Fucking sucks.

The situations aren't really comparable. Weinstein pressured actors. Singer's victims were all these no name teenagers that no one cares about. Like he said "no one is going to believe you"

Blips

^^^^money talks^^^^Surprisingly, he was honest.

Yes, and today? Conversation at r569 is 11 hours old.

Just like at how few names there are. Amber Heard ,Anthony Rapp and Olivia Munn. That's it? No one was willing to abandon Singer, and I guess they were correct. They suspected he would still survive this.

does he profit from the success of BR?

The other very important reason why Singer isn’t going down, is because of the number of others who would be at great risk of going down, if Singer did.

This has everything to do with money, AND power.

Weinstein’s small potatoes compared to some of the people who Singer calls his “friends”.

He’s fucking Teflon. It’s completely unbelievable, but here it is again.

I for one don’t believe the “victims.” I find it wonderfully coincidental that this article is coming out on the heels of the huge commercial success of Bohemian Rhapsody. Sounds like some losers looking for a payoff.

Why hasn't someone just offed him? These kids, now grown, their lives ruined. They have nothing to lose. Or one of their angry dads?

Yaaaaaaas

Yes R575 because NOBODY'S been talking about this for 20 years

On top of the other laughable stupidity in that post, this article has been under development for a year, we have known about it well before BR came out.

Wait they really disqualified BR because of Singer? That’s fucking nonsense. Enough with the SJW shit.

R575 = Wane Castro or Tommy Johnson.

They should disqualify it because it’s terrible!

Im surprised that GLAAD is saying anything at all....usually they only get up in arms about anything trans.

Well, BR was nominated for a BAFTA for best British film, and Singer's name is listed first as a producer of that film. Some in the press are asking, "Will Singer show up at the BAFTAs?"

A guilty person would stay home, or a guilty person would show up to signify innocence, or an innocent person would show up, or an innocent person would stay home to keep the attention on the film and Malek. You choose.

What that means is that GLAAD didn't receive any kind of financial incentive (as in sizeable donation) from the BR producers to stick out their neck for the movie.

How is Singer involved with Geffen? Are they business partners, or do they have a closer association.

When even BEE thinks you're sort of disgusting:

Was Singer one of the people that got Mark Salling of Glee murdered? Salling was a couple of days away from naming names that got him into child porn and then he “kills himself”??? Come on.

Matthew Morrison was always at Singer parties and close to Salling and was also friends with Geffen

Bryan's been a very naughty boy.

R573, isn't he the director? I'd hope so

Not very surprising Singer gets to stay on "Red Sonja." Three big reasons:

*Millenium Films' CEO Avi Lerner has faced multiple allegations of sexual misconduct himself. Predators protect predators. (It's like Trump supporting Roy Moore). *Lerner is obviously one of those morally bankrupt Trump-like folks who spouts things like "fake news" to dispute obvious truths *And of course, the biggest, Millenium Films only cares about those dollar bills, no matter how many kids' lives are destroyed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- the only way to stop Singer is to organize a campaign along the line of "Mute R. Kelly". Every time one of his movies comes out, launch a hashtag promoting a boycott and share the abundance of articles about his past. Have protesters show up at his premieres. Publicly shame awards organizations for nominating his work. The fight won't be easy, but it is necessary.

What makes you say that, r588. I always thought Salling realised his life was basically over at that point, so he decided to end it all.

Do you have any evidence that he was getting ready to name people?

R588, that’s a bullshit post and you know it.

Sailing wasn’t naming names. His was a done deal when he hung himself.

Bryan is a sexual predator, but he is not a murderer.

Salling agreed to a plea deal to name names.

He was just a few days away when he suddenly “killed himself”.

r591 Yes, just don't try to start with Bohemian Rhapsody, because then you have already lost. (I'm fine with GLAAD's decision though), but going further it should be possible to mute him or at least be a real pain in his ass.

That poster is repeating the Enty (of couree) crap about Salling. He pushed it as this juicy conspiracy.

FFS r594 That's horrible!

R594, your ignorance is astounding. That’s not how it works.

You get the offer of a deal on the table. If that deal includes the contingency of naming names, then you name names BEFORE the deal is secured. Once the information has been verified, or not, the deal stays, or goes, depending on the outcome of the investigation.

Fuck off. And learn the fucking law, before you go online and spout bullshit.

New thread

Closed.

You don't understand, CDAN told him so r598

How people still hang off that damn website.

Red Sonja will never be filmed. Not with Bryan Singer at the helm.

Singer's movies are awesome.

r261 is just a hater.

r500,

I noticed Andy Dick had a voiceover role as a muppet sex shop owner in THE HAPPYTIME MURDERS. He was good for the role and the movie was hilarious. Woefully under appreciated.

I know that Dick is a creep, but his stalker here is out of control, Maury. I know of no evidence that Dick molests kids. Adults are a different story ...

Les Moonves and Harvey Weinstein could have played the Anti-Semitism card, but they didn't.

There's a bunch of whackadoodle slander and libel about unrelated celebrities on this thread.

I think trolls are trying to get it closed down.

Then you should start an Andy Dick thread, r550.

And Dick's association with Singer IS new to me. I've never heard that before and I don't believe they've ever worked together.

Earlier exposés suggest Egan lied about some of the details in his accusations, r554, in order to successfully sue Singer for damages. But Singer's team debunked many of his claims in court and proved that he was a scammer in other areas of his life.

But read the earlier Egan articles -- Singer's team always acknowledged they worked and partied together through DEN. The Atlantic article suggests that since Egan passed lie detector tests, his drug and rape stories may have been true and he simply fabricated the location to be in Hawaii because that's the court where he was suing -- and the only court where the statute of limitations hadn't run out.

r588 = more left-field libel.

F/F! Ban it, burn it, red-tag it!

JFC, Singer's PR team is really earning their keep minimizing and deflecting on this thread (homophobia! What about...!).

Whom did he hire, Scientology?