** GOLDEN GLOBES ! | OFFICIAL THREAD !! ** - Part V **

Sandra Oh and Andy Samberg did well.

I think censors were on at least 3 times tonight. Anyone know what was said? I think it happened during Patricia Arquette's speech and 2 others, but forgot who.

Golden Globes Snubs: 'A Star Is Born' Loses All But Best Song; 'Mary Poppins Returns' Shut Out:

Alfonso Cuarón Rips Journalist at Golden Globes for ‘Unfair’ Netflix Question:

Omar Sharif Jr. is there:

G won. Rami won. BR won best picture. Awesome.

I like Lady Gaga but i really hate Bradley Cooper. I am glad ASIB was snubbed tonight.

I can’t stand Bradley either. I was so happy when he had a string of flops then we stopped hearing about him. Now he’s back and more obnoxious than ever.

R5 Has DL talked about Omar Sharif Jr before? His Instagram is very gay. I couldn't find a thread, but DL's search feature sucks.

Here he is on the far left comparing his abs with those of the other men in the picture, including Terry Miller, Dan Savage's husband, second from right.

Rami Maleks victory made me so happy.

Lol @ poster at the end of the previous thread called the HWFP 93 illegals. This shit has to stop even as a joke. As a legal immigrant it makes my life worse every day as anti immigrant sentiment grows and Americans are clueless about their own immigration laws. I’ve had “Go Home” spray painted on my garage door and clients have refused to deal with me on the phone when they hear my accent. People with names like Rodriquez and O’Brien won’t deal with an immigrant. Major fucking eye roll. My company is now paying for me and two Australian employees to take voice lessons to lose our accents so we can avoid abuse and the company doesn’t lose out on sales.

/off my soapbox.

Now that Fashion Police is gone, is there any show that dissects the red carpet fashion?

Rami put a lot of work into that movie. He deserved the GG, little pocket gay that he is.

[quote]Has DL talked about Omar Sharif Jr before? His Instagram is very gay. I couldn't find a thread, but DL's search feature sucks.

R9, I think we've talked about Sharif a few times over the years, yes.

And Sharif has been openly gay for years, so yes his IG is very gay. ; )

He also follows DL fave Julian Morris (& his boyfriend Landon Ross).

Rami is very cute and sweet and humble. He deserves all this. It’s a shame the ASIB and Gaga fans will make him miserable on social media for this win.

Glenn will get the Oscar. They always go for an actor/actress who has been around for decades, done good work and missed out.

I want to be in a threesome with Rami and Ben Whishaw.

Cuaron makes a good point in answer to the reporter's question about Roma having a simultaneous Netflix and theatrical release. He asks what kind of theatrical release alone the reporter thinks a black and white foreign film with no big stars would get. If Roma goes on to win some more awards, it might actually open up the awards to less big Hollywood, flashy, big name films because they'll find a streaming platform at the same time as their theatrical release and actually be seen by people. It would be ironic if streaming actually saved the film industry from itself. I think streaming music is saving the music industry, even after they fought it with everything they could.

Issue is Roma wasn’t really that good and was boring. And I like slow films but that was dull and slow.

Rami is the Timothee of 2019 here. Another mediocre faced twink bottom. When he’s strung out on drugs Rami might throw a mean fuck and he sure has the chin to look determined to make you come.

Queen is thought of much more highly abroad than in the US, so it does not surprise me the HFP would give "Bohemian Rhapsody" best Picture. There's not a chance in hell, though, it will win for the Oscars: Best Picture will go to Roma, A Star is Born, The Favourite, Black Panther, or Green Book first.

Rami Malek is 37. On what planet is a 37-year-old a twink?

Did The Favourite not do as well as it was supposed to tonight?

Perhaps there is a fear that one day a film will get streamed on Netflix first, then play a brief theatrical release just to qualify for Oscar nominations, which will make people feel like Oscars are now being awarded to glorified TV movies. Not saying that's the case with "Roma," just saying maybe that was the gist of the concern being raised by the reporter.

(sniff) REALLY, R15?

Lmao GaGas “Monsters” are being ridiculous on social media

Why the fuck was Debra Messing nominated?

R21, Malek is slim, clean-shaven and under the age of fifty. On the dystopian planet DataLounge, and only there, is he considered a twink.

Does anyone watch that shit show Mrs Maisel?....It looks hideous...

Malek also looks much younger than his age. Many believe he’s in his 20s.

Did Lucas Hedges have a date?

Wondering where he is on his spectrum this award season.

Lucas, Rami and Ben are going to end up naked together after the parties.

Hey! Don’t forget about me! I’ll be there buck naked too!

Sorry but Rami will be with his GIRLFRIEND and Golden Globe tonight.

R28 I watched Mrs. Maisel. I didn't find it appealing, cute but ultimately underwhelming. However, Alex Borstein is fantastic, to the point of it being worth suffering through the show just to see her. I would watch it again just for her. Sad she didn't win this evening. Didn't ever see Clarkson though so can't make a true comparison

R11, this it not the thread for your post. Having said that, without knowing what city or state you are in, no one can really respond to it. Unless you just wanted to sound alarmist.

Mrs. Maisel is great television. Period.

Q: "Why the fuck was Debra Messing nominated?"

A: Silly! Because my show wasn't in production this year!

ASIB being shut out makes me very happy, find those two insufferable fake wankers. So glad Olivia won, loved her since last century

Hollywood Reporter is on Bryan Singer now too.

ASIB team is already working to derail BR

Wow Melanie is looking better than Antonio now.

Just read the Antonio had a heart attack already. Was he a coke head in this day?

[quote]Glenn will get the Oscar.

Not if Olivia Coleman has anything to say about it. Bitch was iconic as Queen Anne.

Timmy is very good looking and talented but his last movie is pure shit

[quote]Did Lucas Hedges have a date? ... Wondering where he is on his spectrum this award season.

I don't think he did. He repped his film with the writer though. Also, his awards season is over with the Globes. He didn't get in at SAG and likely won't get in at BAFTAs or AMPAS.

Rami Malek and BR winning were abortions.

R42 True, Carrell was bloody terrible but Timothee really sucks

Timmy is pure shit looking, but his last movie was very good and talented.

‘I wanted to be an actor because of Ben Whishaw’

Kit Harington reveals the first time he was truly starstruck ⭐️🤗⭐️

R47 Well coming out has certainly not hurt Bens' career in anyway

Did anyone else get a look of the rocks Glenn was sporting? Where the f were they from and how much?

R49 I lent her mine.

You are right r43. Hedges was there with the author of Boy Erased and they were sitting together at the front table where Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban were.

Lmfao poor Keith Urban spent the entire night trying to get his wife’s attention and hold it and she was hardly paying him mind lol

I am speaking to someone on Twitter that is a critic and Predicts award noms and wins etc. and he knows some people in the industry and he said ASIB was the front runner for the GG for a while until word changed to BR cause the voters felt “BR is too loved by the people to deny it”. Hence it’s winning. They gave it to BR, not cause they felt it was the best, but because they felt it was the most loved by people besides Black Panther but BP wasn’t getting the win.

He said the chances of BR winning Best Picture at the Oscars is slim, Malek has a shot though and is easily Top 2 in voting right now for the nomination. He’s locked for a nod. Feels Hawke still has a chance to sneak in and knock someone out cause Hawkes performance hasn’t been forgotten by everyone.

He personally feels Malek should get bumped out and Hawke take the 5th spot, but since Malek is not the “5th” spot and definitely Top 2, someone else may get replaced but most likely Hawke won’t get nominated

[quote] Issue is Roma wasn’t really that good and was boring. And I like slow films but that was dull and slow.

Thank god you said this! I was starting to think I'm the only one who felt that way. It's not a great movie, and ten years from now, no one will be talking about this film. I was highly anticipating for the release of this film since I like black-and-white foreign films, but Bicycle Thieves or Rome, Open City this ain't! By filming Roma in a cold, clinical style, Cuarón made me care very little about the characters, story or the themes of the film.

Alfonso Cuarón's best film will always be Y Tu Mamá También

Timothée Chalamet and Rami Malek at the 76th Annual #GoldenGlobes

Saoirse Ronan portrait taken at the #GoldenGlobes

Two-time #GoldenGlobes winner, singer, composer, actress and producer, Lady Gaga. Period.

Omfg R56 I love this pic. Two kind, humble, talented and hard working actors.

R56 Jesus Rami definitely wants that little whelp to get the fuck away from him

The #GoldenGlobes emoji reminds us of the Krampus bell which reminds us that Toni Collette was in Krampus which reminds us that it's still a crime Toni Collette wasn't even nominated for Hereditary.

Taylor Swift at the Instyle after party #GoldenGlobes

Rami Malek dedicates his #GoldenGlobes award to Freddie Mercury

Rami Malek with lovely girlfriend and co-star Lucy Boynton

I can’t stand Taylor Swift, but she looked HOT last night. Wow.

The HFP had enough of Gaga's outrageous campaigning. The Oscar voters are different. Gaga has a lot of stock with them. Glenn Close is an old woman who has probably already forgotten where she was last night. Gaga will win the Oscar.

R64 I hope you're being sarcastic.

She's his beard.

What's HFP?

R67 that’s his girlfriend as long as that’s what they claim.

Harry Fucking Potter.

(Hollywood Foreign Press)

I might be a mediocre actress and have a face more plastic looking than Nicole's at this point but that Oscar has MY name written on it. Suck on that british cunt!

Gaga is winning the Oscar for song. Not Actress.

R66 What the fuck fantasy drug are you on?

Is your transition done by now, Miss Gaga?

Madonna

Wow. If Maleks momentum doesn’t fizzle over the next few weeks and/or Singers controversy doesn’t hurt him, he may win that Oscar.

Did they bring in special seating for Chrissy Metz? She looked even fatter than usual.

R77 Oh I think the Singer stories are going to become very prevalent

Freddie Mercury’s reaction to that ridiculous film actually winning awards

Taron Egerton & Amber Beard

R76 I would’ve preferred a dedication like this instead

I think Rami is adorable and I'm glad he won.

R69/R64 , and who are 'they', Rami's PR team ???

This is how things work in : "A Long Summer Of Couples Marketing"

Movie.- Bohemian Rhapsody

'Couple'.- Rami Malek and Lucy Boynton

Like Cooper is not promoting himself with his tranny looking beard and his plastic babies

R80 Exactly, the sack of shit never came out whilst alive and infected fuck knows how many men with Aids because of his total self loathing, that car wash cunt

Rami and his twin brother Sami

Christian Bale's accent sounds fake like he should be saying "Please sir may I have some more?"

I fucked Freddy and me dick fell out!

Rami didn’t really capture Freddie’s charm and wit, his performance was more a portrayal of a caricature combined with lip syncing to Queen songs

Christian Bale used to be gorgeous, too bad he's been relegated to wearing styro foam bellies and other such gimmicks in thankless Oscar bait...

R93 loved his speech though...

R91 you cheeky thing

I don't believe Gaga will be nominated for an Oscar.

Did Vice win anything ? I real enjoy Bale.

R96 Of course she'll be nominated. Whether she'll win anything other than Best Original Song is the question.

R97 Yes, Bale won.

Fiji Water Girl Steals The Show During Golden Globes Red Carpet

“It’s all strategic,” the woman, known only as the “Fiji Water Girl,” told the Los Angeles Times on Sunday. “You’ve got to angle.”

Gotta say they really prettied up that award. It used to be butt ugly.

So did Chrissy Metz call Allison Brie a bitch?

Nah, I don't think she did. I watched the clip and she does say something, but you can't clearly make out, "bitch," unless that's what you want to hear. Her tone sounds shady, but honestly, why would she call her a bitch right in front of those two presenters? The situation makes no sense.

Glenn and Rami are now front runners for Oscars?

R103 insiders say Close is looking good and Malek is top 2 as of now. But let’s see if things change over the next few weeks.

But the Oscar is between Malek and Cooper as of now.

The real reason Cooper was shut out was because he was wearing a white jacket with white pants. Pants should have been black.

R105 ASIB won song. It wasn’t completely shut out.

The reason the film lost was because voters said you can’t deny how loved the film is by the public, so they gave the more loved film the win over the more critically acclaimed ASIB.

They gave it to Malek cause they felt he was a stand out over Cooper the Live Aid sequence sealed the deal and showed the dedication and work he put in.

Gaga has a lot of OLD Hollywood in her corner. She's sucked up Tony Bennett, Julie Andrews and the list goes on. She didn't do these things by accident. The Oscar could still flip back to her. Glenn winning GG could be seen as the Lifetime Achievement Award. Gaga still has hope.

Christian Bale is a little bitch

Go, go Bohemian Rhapsody, I knew that's how the foreign press felt. And none for Bradley Cooper! I'm so happy!

The SAGs will tell us more of where things will go. The SAGs are USUALLY better at predicting the Oscar winner than the GG, who tend to do their own thing. We shall see.

I think they will give Cooper the SAG over Malek. Cooper has more pull with his peers than Malek does.

But does anyone *like* Cooper? Hopefully he doesn't get it. Gosling, Mortenson whoever would be alright. Malek would be best!

[quote]Gaga has a lot of OLD Hollywood in her corner. She's sucked up Tony Bennett, Julie Andrews and the list goes on. She didn't do these things by accident. The Oscar could still flip back to her. Glenn winning GG could be seen as the Lifetime Achievement Award. Gaga still has hope.

Gaga has the Oscar for Best Song. Actress is between Glenn and Olivia Colman, and when in doubt the Academy will go with the Brit.

Colman is by all means my equal, wish I could say the same about the other nominees.

Cooper's wife (or gf?) reminded me of Matt Dillon's gf in "In and Out." She did not give a shit.

R56 Is that Rachel Griffiths? She looks terrible.

[quote]r66 Glenn Close is an old woman who has probably already forgotten where she was last night. Gaga will win the Oscar.

I certainly HOPE so! If Glenn wins she'll become more insufferable than ever. And she'll make more and more dreary, sob story movies.

She only comes alive playing a bitch on the small screen.

Glenn's an excellent actress but The Wife was not a good film and Jonathan Pryce outshone her. But she'll win for sentimentality. Poor Olivia.

Don't you pity me.

Sandra Oh should have hosted alone, Adam Sanberg is an idiot and not funny

Googoo isn’t winning anything. She’ll be lucky to be nominated.

When are the academy awards nominees announced?

R117 - Olivia’s role is supporting; she is in the wrong category.

I thought Sandra Oh and Sandberg were not that good, but in this environment they feel like they have to be careful

[quote]r121 Olivia’s role is supporting; she is in the wrong category.

How very dare you.

The only time I was suppoorting was in THE SWARM. And even then I was above the title!

Deb Messing lost again? My irregular borders!

Why did everyone melt down when Close won? I know it’s been a while but she’s no stranger to the GG stage.

I don't think Gaga and Cooper are actually that well liked

Exactly, they are unlikable and nothing special. I don't understand why anyone would root for them.

I think the GGs were great this year. Congrats to Ben Whishaw!

I think there's some things people need to remember: having BR and ASIB in Drama left a clear pathway for Green Book to triumph as Best Film - Comedy. There will be no such distinction at the Oscars.

The GGs have definitely put Glenn Close in the frame to win the Oscar - she better just hope that voters don't watch her boring film. The smooch from Douglas was a great reminder of her triumphant past and, though I found her speech kind of cringy ("Category Sisters"? Presuming she will see them all a lot more....where? At the CC awards? SAGs? O.K.), it was refreshing to see someone of her stature so genuinely surprised to have won something. She doesn't have the gravitas of Streep but it was a good showing - and that's primarily what the GGs are about: auditioning to win better, bigger awards. She's looking a bit "presidential" now.

However, I wouldn't rule out Olivia Colman who is not only terrific as Queen Anne but the whole film is structured and edited to make her every appearance an absolute knockout. Like I said, Close had better hope voters don't actually watch The Wife. (Was it actually a whole novel? I thought it was short story.)

Emily Blunt looked like she lost the ability to fly at the GGs. She really looked like the wind had been knocked out of her. Probably the realisation that now she'll have to consider starring in A Quiet Place 2: Where Things Get Even More Quiet. It's going to be set at the GGs, right after Olivia Colman's name was announced. I'd say at least she still gets to fuck her husband but...he's gay, isn't he?

Also, Bradley Cooper has Robert DeNiro and Clint Eastwood firmly on his side - probably others. The Academy establishment will no doubt be supporting him on the night. Whether that outweighs the new Academy voters, remains to be seen. But I think the ASIB awards circuit restraint has a lot to do with observers considering it a lock on THE NIGHT. Not for Gaga but certainly for Cooper. There is probably an assumption that everyone else will be voting for it so they'll cast a vote for something else. I would think the snub at the GGs would make the films supporters really lock down the votes now to bring home some wins.

I don't think BR has a chance at Best Picture and I would suspect Rami Malek will not take home an Oscar. However, I have to hand it to little Mr. Malek whom I have previously not been much of a fan - I LOVE his red carpet/ballroom efforts to meet Gaga, Kidman and gawd knows who else. That was all really adorable.

Ben Whishaw!

Ben has so much class, I’m happy he won

Did Ben meet Rami? Ben was supposed to play Freddie in BR when Sacha got fired but it didn’t work out because of James Bond. Brian May is a huge fan of his

The GREEN BOOK producer was fucking annoying. He took 1/2 an hours dating around on stage before starting his speech and then took nearly as long giving it.

R136 Brian really wanted Ben to play Freddie.

I think it worked out better that way. Glad Ben still got a globe.

r138 Where in your link does it say May really wanted Ben?

Ben was supposed to play Freddie? And you all think Rami looks nothing like Freddie? Ben really doesn’t.

R139 The Metro article wouldn’t link:

[quote]Ben Whishaw was named as a replacement in December 2013. However, he was never given a contract and there was no official confirmation he would be stepping into the role. Brian May had said he hoped the James Bond actor would sign up for the role, dubbing him a ‘real actor’. But in 2014, despite Ben still being linked to the lead, things surrounding the film were up in the air, and he ended up telling Time Out: ‘I don’t know what’s happening, it seems to be on a back burner.’

R140 Ben is a phenomenal actor though, he’s completely believable in everything he plays. I think his Freddie would’ve been interesting (and he can grow his own moustache)

How tiresome it would be to see the 3rd remake of ASIB win anything at all. The movie has been made 4 times! Cooper and Gaga only had to fill already well made shoes for their roles, and end up just playing themselves, letting the vehicle carry them.

It's obvious that Bradley and Gaga don't like each other. They can barely look at each other without sneering. She seems to be chummy with her music team from ASIB, but cold with Cooper and Sam Elliott.

We saw the way she shoved DiCaprio on live TV, and she's rumored to have a bad temper off-camera. That shove wasn't forgotten.

See, no one can like Cooper and Gaga, not even Cooper and Gaga.

A gay actor headlining? That never would have happened.

[quote]My company is now paying for me and two Australian employees to take voice lessons to lose our accents so we can avoid abuse and the company doesn’t lose out on sales.

They're going after anyone with a foreign accent now? I though it was just those that sounded Spanish.

[quote]We saw the way she shoved DiCaprio on live TV

Did. Not. Happen.

R75 and she beat Frances McDormand (FARGO), to boot!

R79 maybe so. But I don't see how it will hinder Malek, since it will also be revealed that they clashed on set and Singer was a dick to him. Malek would come out sympathetic and triumphant.

R96 she already has an Oscar nod for co-writing (with Diane Warren) "Till It Happens To You."

R121, Oscar nominations will be on Tuesday, January 22.

I think it was the interview host who said “she’s such a bitch”. But the question remains... is she a bitch?

BAFTA nominations are this Wednesday (Jan. 9).

However, the BAFTAs are now weird because films must now comply with diversity requirements to be eligible.

R154 Will Joanna Lymley host it?

Glad Gaga and Cooper didn't win, never forget American Sniper. Sadly Richard Madden and Christian Bale won, both famous for being 24 carat assholes.

But delight Olivia and Ben won, hopefully Olivia is now gaining momentum for the Oscar win.

R156, I know Christian Bale has a reputation for being nasty, but what's the deal on Richard Madden?

Richard Madden is an asshole? He’s had a career for like five minutes.

You know who would love Colman to win the oscar? The people behind The Crown.

[quote]24 carat assholes

Oh, dear.

When the Bodyguard was at a high in the UK a tabloid ran an article about Richard Madden being a womanizing love rat.

[quote] Richard Madden is an asshole? He’s had a career for like five minutes.

Because they were both born in the same town, Madden thinks he's as famous as William Wallace.

I think Malek might sweep, certainly hope so.

r161 Can't say I'm scandalized yet.

I'm very happy for RM but I'm an Oscar winner already

R131- I was thinking the same thing. The Oscars are a lot more about industry support vs. the GG. Cooper always has positive things to say about De Niro and Eastwood - and he did The Mule probably because Eastwood asked him to. If those two have any sway over the academy, it could be Cooper's night.

R164 bitch, my biopic made 7x more money than yours!

What was up with the new trophies? They looked like they were purchased at Party City.

The Oscars have a long history of awarding A-list actors with Best Director and Best Picture Oscars. Redford, Beatty, Costner, Eastwood, Gibson, Affleck have all won. So, I think Bradley has to be the strong favorite for director at least.

Cuaron is the strong favorite.

R169 Which is a shame as it is his weakest film since the cancer three way 'Tambien' garbage

Ben Affleck didn't win for his hiiiiighly overrated Iran movie and neither should Cooper. I'm no Cuaron fan, but if it's between the two he is the lesser of two evils.

Clint Eastwood is a great director!

Once again Roma wasnt that good!!!!

Will Cuaron lashing at that reporter asking about Netflix and theatrical releases hinder his chances?

Roma was complete nonsense. Not understanding the hype for this.

I would be completely fine with Cooper winning Director although I personally want Spike Lee to win. BlackKklansmen is as triumphant

Yes, I'm definitely for Spike Lee! No comparison!

BlackKklansmen was one of my favorite films of 2018. I thought it was fantastic and deep while still being fun and witty and clever. I enjoyed it a lot.

Lee deserves the win.

My biggest gripe is Driver being pushed over Topher Grace, who I feel gave the better performance.

Regina King has a 22 year old son??!! I thought he was her date!

Green Book was the best movie of the year and deserves the Oscar. It's one of the rare dramas that is both excellent and holds your attention.

I avoided Green Book for a while cause I thought it would be a boring race bait movie, and didn’t like the previews for it.

I finally saw it cause of it getting nominations at GG, CA and SAGs and was surprised how good it was. It was fantastic!!! Not boring in the slightest, always holds your attention while telling an honest story. Ali gave such a powerful performance. You could feel his anxiety, his internal pain and the haunting of it all. Fantastic performance.

I loved that this film acknowledged how WASPs looked down upon Italian Americans cause that’s the reality of it all. I know too many people that claim Italians were treated like all other white men in America. False. They were treated as less and in some places worse than black People. They were hated and seen ass fake whites.

If only more Italian Americans knew their history in this Country.

Spike Lee needs to make a film that doesn’t collapse under its own weight. He has yet to accomplish this in decades of filmmaking. When he does, he’ll win.

Thanks for that link to Bale but what the fuck with that accent?

Ratings were the lowest in 4 years. I don't think it has anything to do with the awards. I know for myself I just can't get interested because of so much going on in the world. Usually I like the distraction of award season but I can't get into it. I call it the Trump-effect.

Bale has a different accent every few minutes.

Why do people not realize this?

And the ratings are gonna be low for all awards shows. People don’t watch them the way they do. They rather watch the clips of specific people winning on YouTube.

I personally love watching Awards shows. I’m a cinephile. Always have been. Always very invested in movies and award shows.

R183 is correct.

Ratings for awards shows have been on the decline for many years, long before Trump.

There are too many awards show today, and the other reason is that people are saturated with celebrities because of social media.

R184 I love your second point.

I never thought of that and it’s so true. Before the internet and social media you had to watch these awards shows etc. to see your fav actors etc. now they’re always available to you. The internet and social media have ruined EVERYTHING but no one wants to admit it.

[quote]I loved that this film acknowledged how WASPs looked down upon Italian Americans cause that’s the reality of it all. I know too many people that claim Italians were treated like all other white men in America. False. They were treated as less and in some places worse than black People. They were hated and seen ass fake whites.

I recently got into a heated argument with someone over MYSTIC PIZZA, of all movies. He could see that Adam Storke's WASPy rich family were looking down on Julia Roberts' character for being working class, but he didn't believe me when I added that they also disapproved of the coupling because Julia was of Portuguese descent. In other words, not really white -- or as we like to say on DL, 'white-adjacent.' To him (white), they were all white and I was just needlessly bringing race into the equation. I had to explain that there was a time in the US, even a recently as the 1980s, when Italian-Americans, Portuguese-Americans, and Greek-Americans were not considered white by Anglos. The WASP family even made derogatory remarks about her ethnicity, for God's sake!

[quote] The internet and social media have ruined EVERYTHING but no one wants to admit it.

There are several celebrities that don't have social media. They are the smart ones. Keep the mystery alive.

R187 I wish Madonna would delete her social media. I miss when she was a mystery.

But really, they were their best when we knew as little about them. The glitz and glamour were amazing. Now we know everything.

Think of all the glamorous and mysterious actors back in Hollywood's golden age. Obviously it depends person to person but most of them were just as "nornal" as anyone.

Loved the look on Billy Porters face when he didn't win, as if he thought he had a chance.

R186 I get into fights about this shit all the time. Mainly with Italian Americans. They’re so in denial. I can show you one argument I got into with an Italian man about it a few months ago and he swears “Italians were always treated exactly the same as other whites with the same exact opportunities”. That’s NOT TRUE. There’s a reason so many Italians had to have their own neighborhoods in run down areas, like the Hispanics and blacks.

There are even books by white men in the 1800s and early 1900s trashing Italians. Look into it. They were HATED but Italians today don’t believe it.

Oh they believe it. They just don't want to acknowledge it because it's too painful to admit they were seen as inferior, just like the irish and the jews.

[quote]r182 Ratings were the lowest in 4 years.

Thanks, Glenn.

[quote]Loved the look on Billy Porters face when he didn't win, as if he thought he had a chance.

He'd said earlier that he deserved to win because he's the embodiment of black, effeminate gays, which is the "in" thing now. In fact, he used the term "poster child."

Italians have made themselves feel better about themselves by putting other minorities down. They were seen as minorities once upon a time. Once they were accepted as “white” they jumped on that bandwagon fast and haven’t left.

Only Italians are NOTHING like WASPs culturally. In a lot of parts in the Midwest and south Italian food is still seen as “ethnic” dishes aka Italians are ethnic. They just refuse to accept that.

I love the Italians that say “I’m not white, I’m Italian” lmao.

In late 19th-century America, there was a growing prejudice against Italians, although they were recruited to satisfy the demand for cheap labor. They were immigrating to the American South, particularly Florida and Louisiana, in large numbers because of poor conditions at home and to fill the shortage of cheap labor created by the end of slavery and the preference of freedmen to work on their own accounts as sharecroppers.

Sugar planters, in particular, sought workers who were more compliant than former slaves; they hired immigrant recruiters to bring Italians to southern Louisiana. In the 1890s, thousands of Italians were arriving in New Orleans each year. Many settled in the French Quarter, which by the early 20th century became known as "Little Sicily."[4]

In a letter responding to an inquiry about immigration in New Orleans, Mayor Joseph A. Shakspeare expressed the common anti-Italian prejudice, complaining that the city had become attractive to "...the worst classes of Europe: Southern Italians and Sicilians...the most idle, vicious, and worthless people among us." He claimed they were "filthy in their persons and homes" and blamed them for the spread of disease, concluding that they were "without courage, honor, truth, pride, religion, or any quality that goes to make a good citizen."[4]

Billy Porter was WONDERFUL in POSE. It’s a shame his ego got so huge that he believed he was gonna win simply cause he’s black and gay and feminine.

No. Just no. He let HIMSELF down with the ego.

The March 14, 1891 New Orleans lynchings were the murders of eleven Italian Americans in New Orleans, Louisiana by a mob for their alleged role in the murder of police chief David Hennessy after some of them had been acquitted at trial. It was the largest mass lynching in U.S. history.

Many Italians (from Italy as opposed to Italo-Americans) resent depictions of themselves on FAMILY GUY as having olive skin. Many of the comments on YouTube are "We don't look like Mexicans" or "We have people with blond hair and blue eyes." Check out FG clips/comments sometime.

R198 TERRIBLE. But don’t tell them that. They deny it. They swear they’re just “white”

Even the blond haired italians with pale skin have the classic unmistakable italian face. The face shape, the nose...think: lady gaga.

The self loathing ones should accept their unique features and embrace their natural looks. Acceptance start with self. It's always sad when adults have yet to come to that realisation.

Here in UK the irish are still treated with mild suspicion, there is still a lingering of 'other'. Imagine an Italian. They wouldn't know how to deal with it if they are anything like in america.

Madonna is Italian but she looks way TOO white

Madonna's also French Canadian from her mother's side. She's a distant relative to Celine Dion.

I was watching La Bamba last year. Richie Valens gets involved with a blond, white girl. When he drops her off at her house, her father looks on disapprovingly and later asks her, "Is he Eye-talian?" No, worse. He's Mexican!

For God's sake of course they can be prejudices against Italians or against Poles or ANY nationality, ANY group of people really - if you can group them you can judge them as a group, but that doesn't make them "not white". What a ridiculous interpretation of the word "white" do you have in America? I'm waiting for people to claim that women and gays aren't really white, wouldn't be a far jump.

Billy Porter is a pretentious prat who thinks he is King of the gays....he isn't. And his bullshit comments in the terence McNally documentary were hilarious

R204 lmao exactly.

I know a brown skinned Mexican who claims his grandfather came here in the 40s and went to all white schools etc. and was always treated as a white man with zero issues. He’s from Illinois. I find it hard to believe. I asked if his granddad told him that himself and he said no he just knows.

Who makes up this kind of shit in their heads?! Wtf.

And don’t get me started on the hot Mexican guy I was talking to from TX literally obsessed with white men to the point he wants to move to Orlando or San Diego cause their gay population is mostly white guys. He makes sure his skin always looks super fair with chemicals, lips pink and wants to bleach his asshole so it’s pink like a white guys.

Talk about self hatred. When I called him out on it (I’m a brown skinned mixed Hispanic) he got upset and always said it’s not that deep. DUDE YOU LIGHTEN YOUR SKIN AND EVERYTHING IS WHITE WHITE WHITE. How is it not that deep? I’m shocked he even liked me. He eventually cut me off cause of me calling him out.

His brown skinned Hispanic ex told me after that they broke up cause he too hated how White obsessed he was and he personally felt he was self hating and a bit racist toward blacks and his own. Said he’s been like that since young.

That is so sad to me.

The Godfather illustrated this prejudice when the waspy politician and wife were dealing with Michael, so Italians get it to a degree.

A surprising number of people dont know that we has internment camps for Italians during WWII which is surprising to me.

R205 THEY WERE NOT CONSIDERED WHITE IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING. WHICH THEY WERENT.

You proved our point.

[quote]Green Book was the best movie of the year and deserves the Oscar. It's one of the rare dramas that is both excellent and holds your attention.

Wait -- it's a DRAMA? Who knew?

r209 Which point did I prove? That it's ridiculous to make up races on the fly like "Italian race"? Yes, I agree. But you here keep complaining that Italians claim that the are white and see themselves as nothing but white. Well, because they ARE, and because there is nothing else they could sanely see themselves as.

Mahershala Ali is the star of the new season of "True Detective," which premieres this Sunday on HBO.

I think one of M's spawn is in that, too.

Mahershala Ali is a very interesting choice for True Detective and I have a feeling it’s gonna be amazing.

R211 Italians have a lot of “Middle Eastern” and black dna. Hence why so many whites saw them as “half n_ggers”

Do you have a link to Porter’s quote? It was presented as verbatim above. But mysteriously no link.

[quote]Mahershala Ali is a very interesting choice for True Detective and I have a feeling it’s gonna be amazing.

I smell EMMY!

Green Book is a polemic shitshow.

Green book was surprisingly good. I just hate the ending.

Up until that ending it was beautiful

For R216

[quote]Porter, who plays HIV-positive ball emcee Pray Tell in the show, says he hopes he wins the Golden Globe: “I’m the black gay guy, I’m the poster child now. People need to see what that looks like.”

Billy Porters attitude is probably part of why he lost.

“ says he hopes he wins “

Seems like the part about him saying he should win was a complete lie. That was messed up to make that up out of whole cloth.

He never said he should win, he said, “hopes” he wins.

You owe us an apology for intentionally providing false information. And the rest of you fools need to stop believing everything you read. Ff the fake posts above.

R194, why are you making up these claims and trying to paint a bad picture of the guy? It’s very misleading.

R223 probably a racist upset a black gay man was nominated and got attention and praise.

He didn't say "I hope I win." The article phrased it as "he hopes he wins."

But saying "I'm the black gay guy. I'm the poster child now" is implying that he should win for those reasons alone.

Reviews are positive r214.

[quote]r201 Even the blond haired italians with pale skin have the classic unmistakable italian face.

In the classic VALLEY OF THE DOLLS ripoff THE BEAUTY TRAP (which I shall start a thread on, believe me!), the blonde, Northern Italian heroine from Queens is named Eve Petrangeli. Her agent makes her change it to Eve Paradise to avoid discrimination from clients, and our little cupcake promptly shoots to modeling stardom.

This is the late 1960s.

He hasn't been mentioned much but I think my beloved "Lobster" guy will be in Best Director. Won't win but they already nom'd him once for that wild Screenplay and his latest looks amazing. He can be our new Lynch -- and "The Favourite" his "Elephant Man" that shows he can tell a linear story without fuss.

So now we’re “implying” when upthread it’s was “He'd said earlier that he deserved to win”

So he never said that.

An apology and correction are clearly in order.

R229 you're splitting hairs. He clearly meant he should win for being gay and black. How else would you take "I’m the black gay guy, I’m the poster child now. People need to see what that looks like.” The article was kind and rephrased his sentiments as "he hopes he wins." Get a clue.

Read the entire article. There are other quotes. He comes off as pompous and self-aggrandizing.

[quote]I love the Italians that say “I’m not white, I’m Italian” lmao.

No Italians say that.

Some Italians say that.

[quote]Italians have a lot of “Middle Eastern” and black dna. Hence why so many whites saw them as “half n_ggers”

Almost no Italians have the DNA makeup you described. Most are 100% European (ie, white).

R234 that’s very very FALSE.

No, it’s not.

Just to be clear he never said that he deserved to win. That was made up by a poster.

Post a link to back up your science or don’t expect anybody to believe it.

Italians are white, but like a spicy white just like Greek and Balkan people. That person doesn’t know what they’re talking about ^

[quote]I love the Italians that say “I’m not white, I’m Italian” lmao.

Never in my life have I heard any Italian or Italian-America person say this or anything similar. Where do you live?

Forget Italians, did they have to reinforce the stage for Chrissy's appearance?

Chrissy Metz loves lasagne, 3 at a time.

Chrissy skipped the after parties. She was seen hanging around the Beverly Hilton kitchen door giving handys for any leftover short rib dinners.

Didn't care for the salmon.

R237 it's still arrogant to suggest you should win because you're the poster child for the latest cause célèbre.

Any Italians that don’t know their History...

I bet Bradley wishes he could take back this interview. That didn't help his GG chances.

[quote]Almost no Italians have the DNA makeup you described. Most are 100% European (ie, white).

Genetic admixture from Middle eastern and North African populations is the reality when it comes to Sicilians/southern Italians. It is a genetic melting point.

Would an Italian mother think Chrissy needs to eat a little something?

R248 no, she would tell her if she lost the weight, she’d have such a pretty face

Poor Chrissy Metz...

Is Chrissy still hanging around the Beverly Hilton doing some dumpster diving, or did she finally have enough to eat?

[quote]Never in my life have I heard any Italian or Italian-America person say this or anything similar.

Hon, the" Italians are not white white" meme is not just something DL came up with, it was a 90s reference to Italian-Americans complaining about their confusing past.

Modern Italian Americans are so out of touch with their history in this country and in Italy. It’s scary.

So many sites have clips of the show that you don't need to actually watch it so that has to hurt ratings.

I didn't watch the show because I had only seen a couple of the films and don't have the premium cable channels to watch the television nominees. Compound this with the desire to avoid hearing political statements or " Let's hear it for the women" - type speeches. Sorry. The award shows have ceased to be a draw.

You can predict who is going to win based on the applause they get when their name is announced. Gaga got a smattering of applause. Close's applause was thunderous. Close or Coleman will win. Gaga will be lucky to be nominated. I think people realized over time that ASIB , while good, was over-hyped out of he gate. Once the buzz stopped and viewers didn't have journalists and influencers going on about how amazing ASIB was, people saw the film for what it was. There's nothing special about it and Gaga is playing herself.

r252 That is such bullshit. So some Italians came to America - as white people. Then they were not awarded "privilege" by the people already there, so now the entire country has to accept they are not white, against anything they ever believed and can see with their own eyes?

DO YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELVES? Fucking Yankees.

No I'm not Italian, but European and I hate you.

If Chrissy had daily colonics for a few weeks, she could probably drop like 200lbs

Hate away, r257. I remember watching some trashy talk show back in the 90s, probably Jerry Springer. A black family was on the show, including the mother and some of her adult children. Issue: who's the father? Was he white? The mother proclaimed no, that she had never gone out with a white guy. Her children responded with what about SoAndSo? Mother responded that he's not white, he's Italian.

Wherever this crap came from or who started it, it didn't start on Datalounge.

It started with ellis island. On their passport you'd find 'italian' instead of racial classifications. Their swarthy looks didn't help them melt in with wasps.

They weren't white but this doesn't mean they were black. Read the book when the irish became white.

It's complicated but remember, race is a social construct, it didn't always exist and people went by ethnicity/tribe, like germanic, wasps, mestizo,roman anglo...

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Casting Joe and Nicholas in the Favourite makes me think the director may be gay.

If some idiot Americans decided in the 20th century that Italians aren't white, it doesn't make it so. You also don't say black people don't have a soul, they are at least not considered to have a soul, because the KKK said so. A dumb opinion is just that. Italians consider themselves white (majority, native Italians, you know what I mean). The entirety of Europe considers Italians as white as anyone and has done so long before America was "discovered". No Jerry Springer show can change that.

R263 He married Labed (actress from his films!) she's 34 and she pings

Ariane Labed

#LesbianSmirk

Just getting to read these mentions and man I love y'all!!! Your support and love is tremendous. #blessed

Golden Globes: Melissa McCarthy Is Secretly Handing Out Ham Sandwiches to Guests

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Joanne McCarthy (cousin)

sorry wrong thread

R264 We were discussing American history with race hence the whole point of the discussion centering American racial classifications.

KKK by the way, are a satanic cult. The whole 'grand wizard' and the language itself is witchery. The burning of the cross jesus died on is a demonic action and based on satans hatred for christ and christ like 'saints' people.

American history in general is fascinating.

R256 not always. Stallone lost the Oscar to Mark Rylance and Stallone’s reception at the globes was tremendous.

The only people who think Italians aren’t white... are American blacks, as evidenced by R259’s example.

The only people who don't recognize that Southern Italians have a significant amount of non-European hereditary are who think having middle eastern blood is bad.

It's a big part of the Sicilian history.

The Golden Globes thread turned into a discussion among white supremacists! Fun!

[quote]Lee deserves the win.

Spike received an Honorary Oscar in 2016.

Enough with the "Italians aren't white" bullshit. Start another thread if you want to discuss it. We're talking about the Globes here, not your 23andme results.

R277 lmao I feel everyone should HAVE TO do DNA tests

Was this Jim Carrey's first public appearance after his girlfriend comitted suicide and all the STD allegations?

The Golden Globes lost all credibility when they gave one to Pia Zadora.

[quote]Was this Jim Carrey's first public appearance after his girlfriend comitted suicide and all the STD allegations?

Jim Carrey gushes over new girlfriend Ginger Gonzaga, on the red carpet at the 76th Golden Globe Awards:

You guys are still obsessed with Pia Zadora lmao. It’s been like 30-40 years. Let’s move on.

Is Bryan Singer laughing all the way to the bank? Does he get a cut?

Does Singer have a Producer Credit? I know he has sole Directors Credit, but if he has a Producers Credit he gets a Globe too for Br winning.

R284 no, he was not a producer.

R285 ok good. Cause I don’t want him getting shit, especially with how he’s trying to take this movie and Malek down with his SUDDEN acknowledgement of this movie and sudden love and kindness of it all and Malek.

Bitch please. We see through you.

I know Dexter was given a Producer Credit since he couldn’t get a Directors Credit for doing the final 2-3 weeks of filming.

Not a very sexy item but did you know the replacement director, Dexter Fletcher, was the love of a certain actress's life (by her own admission, I heard it come out of her mouth), the daughter on a DL/gay iconic series: Julia Sawahla. I got the feeling he broke her heart along the way.

Rami is amazing. I hate how Singer treated him.

How old is Jim Carey’s new girlfriend? For someone with mental health issues, an endless parade of much younger women looking for a come up can’t be healthy.

R289 you're so cynical.

R282 Let's move on to 2011 and Jolie and Depp being nominated for "The Tourist".

[quote]The Golden Globes lost all credibility when they gave one to Pia Zadora."

Actually that's when they got their shit together. Dick Clark took over and got it on prime time TV.

I think Chrissy is finally leaving. There is a crane at the corner of Wilshire and Santa Monica.

Cyndi Lauper shading Gaga. She's not having the Judy Garland comparisons.

Both Sasha Baron Cohen and Ben were in attendance to see Rami and BR win. Awkward?

I wouldn't say awkward. I'd feel a certain way if I was Cohen though. He made a fuss, and parted from the film. The role landed acclaim and awards, and the film had a huge box office and awards, not so much acclaim, but was a crowd pleaser. Ben never seemed to find the time to film it so he quietly went away.

Cohen will win an Oscar someday and he would've been great in this, no doubt. But these things work out in a zen way. The role was Rami's and good for him.

[quote]Ben never seemed to find the time to film it so he quietly went away.

Ben Whishaw was never actually offered the role. We just went through this earlier in the thread, he made clear he was never given a contract.

[quote]Enough with the "Italians aren't white" bullshit. Start another thread if you want to discuss it. We're talking about the Globes here,

So is Lady Gaga white?

Whishaw would've gotten raked over the coals, anyway, since Freddy was Persian/Indian and he's strictly European. There would have been an uproar.

The studio never would have signed off on Whishaw sadly, he is not straight enough for such a high profile movie. Maybe one day we will get there.

Can somebody explain the Cindy Lauper thing.

R302 I can't explain it but damn she-bop is looking FANTASTIC!

And if she's referencing Judies version I agree, Gaga and Cooper vs Garland and Mason?!?! Pfft!

Dear, go back to selling your skin rash lotions or whatever.

The studio didn't want out actor to play Freddie's role so they did recast Whishaw

Freddie Mercury Movie & Ben Whishaw - Brian May Interview

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Bohemian Rhapsody: Brian May wanted a different actor to play Freddie Mercury

Brian May has confessed he had his sights set on Ben Whishaw for the role of Freddie Mercury.

Roger Taylor was also very impressed by Whishaw's work in Richard II

from 2015 interview

As for the Freddie Mercury biopic, in which Whishaw was supposed to have played the late Queen frontman after the originally mooted Sacha Baron Cohen left the project citing “artistic differences”, that seems to have gone into development hell. “I don’t know. I truly don’t know. I’ve got no news about it,” says Whishaw. “There’s no script as we stand and no director and therefore no film, so we’ll see.”

Whishaw did a screen test for the part two years ago, in which he sang “Bohemian Rhapsody”. I’m impressed, I tell him. “I don’t have a great voice but I do have quite a big range apparently” –

Transcript: Glenn Close and Sam Elliott on the Power of Small Roles and the Allure of Westerns

[quote]r282 You guys are still obsessed with Pia Zadora lmao. It’s been like 30-40 years. Let’s move on.

There is no "moving on" from her epic performance as an incestuous hillbilly midget in BUTTERFLY!

[quote]Thirty-three years after her big night, the 'Butterfly' star reminisces about the uproar over her being named new star of the year — beating out the likes of Kathleen Turner and Elizabeth McGovern — and the melodrama of her life since then, from tumultuous marriages to a golf cart accident that left her unable to taste or smell.

BAFTA thread

Nominations are coming!

Jesus! It's not like Pia Zadora won Best Actress anything at the GGs. It was New Star of the Year. Big whoop!

This pic was taken tonight at the NBR awards. Bradley really lost his looks. He looks like Barry Manilow's less attractive brother. And are he and Spielberg both wearing rugs?

[quote]R314 Jesus! It's not like Pia Zadora won Best Actress anything at the GGs. It was New Star of the Year. Big whoop!

Fellow nominees Kathleen Turner and Elizabeth McGovern were not amused.

#Choose-a-Side

R296, R297 The film could have won more acclaim with Sacha Baron Cohen in the role of Freddie. Cohen was great in Talladega Nights. Cohen would have been more gutsy in the role. When I see Rami in the BR trailer, all I see is a straight guy pretending to be gay.

Cyndi can comfort herself with the Tony for Kinky Boots. First Tony ever for a female composer solo.

I don't think it's a bad thing that Cohen and Whishaw lost the role because it's really a bad film.

[quote]r310 [bold]Transcript: Glenn Close and Sam Elliott on the Power of Small Roles and the Allure of Westerns[/bold]

Awkward transition:

[quote]Sam Elliott: [Lady Gaga] was stunning to work with. There was a moment where we all were at the Greek Theatre. I wasn’t there for many of the live venues that we did. But we were there at the Greek Theatre. It was all her little monsters, her fan base that follows her so religiously … they were the extras in the crowd. There was a moment late at night. We’d been there a long time, where everybody was kind of restless. We’d shot through the day, and they’d been in the sun all day. Now it was kind of turning cold. And she just came out of nowhere and sat down at the piano and started singing. It just rocked the place. Everybody just pretty much stopped. The crew stopped. Magical.

[quote]Glenn Close: You’ve done a lot of Westerns?

Glenn Close defenders clap back at Gaga's monsters:

Omg dead @320. Shade for the ages.

R221 I had a Texan friend who when he used the word "fierce" to described someone's performance, meant "terrible".

R226 Do they kill off the main stars of "True Detective" on the show every time they end a season forcing them to cast someone new every year?

Enough with pretending Cohen is a legitimate ACTOR. And his version would have FLOPPED and not gotten award recognition. Cohen is all about shock value and controversy yet you all act like he is some amazing thespian. Malek can act circles around Cohen.

As a matter of fact I bet if Cohen stayed on he would not be getting nominations.

I see this weird thought process that if one actor gets nominations for a role that means the original actor would have. No. Cohen would not have given the performance Malek did, which was ELECTRIFYING like no other performance this past year.

His Live Aide sequence would have been a joke too.

^ Awards are more about the role and bigger acting rather than the better acting

R326 Cohen would be laughable. If you think we would have gotten the same performance out of him we got from Malek you don’t know anything about acting or Cohen.

R320 amazing a room full of her own fans was impressed by her singing!

Malek was very overrated, IMO. His performance was all artifice and overbite. I can't guarantee that Cohen would have been better, but the fact that he left the project because the Queen Machine didn't really want to explore the nitty gritty of Freddie tells me the film might have been a lot more interesting than the bland pap that we wound up with. And Cohen is very talented, and seemed to be committed in the way that said he would have dug in his heels and really given us a memorable Freddie. The Bohemian Rhapsody that's on screen now is so dreadful that yes, had Cohen played it as written, it wouldn't have been very good because I don't think he would have bought into it. Malek just did what he was told, and the performance is all surface because the script and direction are all surface. It's a shockingly awful film, one of the worst of the year.

The BR haters don’t ever stop.

I legit saw one on twitter claiming it still hasn’t broke even yet alone made profit. A $55 million dollar movie has grossed almost $750 million but hasn’t broken even according to haters.

Yet that same user says MPR only needs $260 million to break even on a $130 million budget. Makes sense.

Cohens controversy vehicle would have flopped. It also would be panned. Cohen is all about controversy. See his career and why he’s famous.

If you wanna see drugs and fucking so bad watch a Skinimax flick

The nitty grityy SBC wanted were tabloid rumors and drug and sex parties, not wholly uninteresting, but way less interesting and special than what made Queen such a great band and Mercury such a legendary frontman. And such a project would have never ever gotten the music rights, so it's a moot point.

BR is an instant classic, highly likely will be the best remembered movie of the year for good reasons. The GG made the right decision.

If you're referring to me, R330, I didn't say a word about the box office. I know it's a huge hit, way bigger than anyone anticipated. But that has nothing to do with what I said. Most blockbusters are shitty movies. And Bohemian Rhapsody is a shitty movie.

BR was not shitty and it connected with audiences like no other film last year and is probably the most talked about film in a long time besides Superhero movies.

Whether you liked it (majority) or didn’t (minority plus critics) fact is it left an impression on you and everyone is talking about this film since November.

R327 If you think we would have gotten the same performance out of him we got from Malek you don’t know anything about acting or Cohen.

I never said that he could be as good as Malek or better I meant he would get all the nominations Malek got because of the role and mustache, wig and fake teeth

Whaddaya MEAN "most blockbusters are shitty movies," R329?!

I mean the majority of critics still liked it, just not a big one. But you really can give very little on the critics. Some 90+% films are total shit. Award shows actually seem the better judges so far.

Bohemian Razzie is an awful film awful editing awful screenplay and the lip syncing was very obvious it's a very bad cliche film

I liked Aquaman for watching Nicole Kidman kicking ass alone. Now Michael Bay blockbusters ( with exception to his produced Bumblebee) ARE shitty.

The lip syncing was obvious? Now you are just making shit up at random. The real reason some can't see BR is a great film is because it's glossy and happy and people are trained to see glossy vs. gritty as a sign of quality, which is obviously stupid.

Aquaman's trailer was so stupid I haven't watched the film

Aquaman was surprisingly fun and Amber Heard was surprisingly cool

Richard Madden is a Kenneth Branagh protege. Sir Ken cast him as the prince in Cinderella, and then directed him as Romeo in the West End.

The Prince was prettier than Cinderella.

Poor Tom Hiddleston must have aged out of that job r343.

G went from 3rd place to 1st in two days on Gold Derby charts

G needs to withdraw her name from award consideration for THE WIFE, as it's becoming more and more obvious this is a sympathy vote.

By staying in the race, she's giving acting itself the finger - her message is essentially that any performer's actual [italic]work[/italic] doesn't matter; instead, in G's world, a performer's worth is judged by how much guilt they can wring from their peers.

[quote]The film could have won more acclaim with Sacha Baron Cohen in the role of Freddie. Cohen was great in Talladega Nights. Cohen would have been more gutsy in the role. When I see Rami in the BR trailer, all I see is a straight guy pretending to be gay.

TRAILER? You mean you are criticizing a movie you haven't even seen and praising the performance of Cohen that doesn't even exist?OK then.

I'm actually quite getting my hopes up that BR could snag the Oscar. It's a (kind of magic) force of nature. Queen on stage would definitely lift the pathetic Oscar show up.

[quote]G needs to withdraw her name from award consideration for THE WIFE, as it's becoming more and more obvious this is a sympathy vote.

Many Oscar wins are sympathy votes. Especially for older actors, they are often awarded in recognition of an entire career rather than because a single performance was so great.

Yeah, what's happening with Close is nothing new. It's happened in the past and will happen in the future. I hope she wins! Let her enjoy herself.

It just happened for Meryl Streep a few years ago. They awarded her for her past decades work pretty much.

There will always be the lifetime achievement win. Eddie Murphy deserved the Oscar for "Dreamgirls" and "Little Miss Sunshine" Alan Arkin won for simply showing up and knowing his lines. He did nothing of merit in that film but was on his fourth nomination.

Growing up, I knew and liked Queen's songs especially from Flash Gordon which I loved back then. Freddie Mercury was also one of the first people I knew about who was gay. But aside from a few facts, I didn't know much about his or the bands real life. I saw BR and enjoyed it but like a lot of people I was disturbed by how Freddie being gay was down played but I wasn't completely surprised. What really bothered me was reading after how almost the entire movie is a lie from how they met all the way up to the "reunion" at Live Aid. Plus to find out they completely changed the relationship he had with his long time partner was disgusting. I know all bio pics change somethings but you could actually make another movie about the real Freddie and except for the songs, it would be completely different.

BR is a very watchable but very flawed film. It doesn't deserve to win any awards - its rewards are the huge worldwide box office result.

BR is not a lie, it's an adaptation of real life. This conflict and kiss and make up dynamics in the band existed (Paul Pretner being a huge problem) they were just not tied to Life Aid, but at random uninteresting times. That's doesn't make it a lie.

Completely changed the relationship with Jim Hutton... because they met after a party and not in a bar? What? No. They summed up the relationship pretty well. Jim was this proud and unstarfucky working class dude Freddie just fell for, pursued and then settled down with - and the also employed btw. What kind of information are you reading?

Another thing re Jim Hutton: The first time he saw Queen live was backstage at Live Aid, I'm pretty sure, and according to him he just thought "That's my man". They included that interview information in the movie. It was very truthful and the sciptwriter should get way more credit!

Lmaoooo @ they changed Jim and Freddie’s relationship. Complete bullshit. They changed how they met and nothing else. And a lot of what was in it Happened just not in that order or it was dramatized for movie purposes (Freddie quitting the band) but that doesn’t mean the entire movie was lying.

And the gay aspect wasn’t downplayed. We see he’s gay early on and from then on he was gay!

He meets this guy cater waiting a party, hits on him then years later look him up in the phone book and takes him to Live Aid. That's summering up their relationship ? They were together for years, he took care of him while he was suffering. You see none of that. Since they were playing fast and loose with the facts, they certainly could have had them get together earlier to show more of this important relationship. But they didn't.

R359 you see NONE OF THAT because they didn’t show anything that happened after Live Aide. They intentionally didn’t show his suffering and dying. They wanted the film to be a CELEBRATION of Mercury, which they achieved.

FOX is considering making a sequel where we see Freddie’s life POST Live Aide.

Eh, and between the phone book and Live Aid they become a couple and have a big movie kiss. Yes, that is very truthful. On a meta level it makes it part of the happy ending, you can't have that at any time in a movie. The movie ended 1985 as r360 said. It didn't have to, but it makes sense it did. It certainly makes FM more of a rock god than an AIDS victim and, as I said, gives the film a happy ending.

R361 that’s what they wanted. To celebrate Freddie. Not make him a victim or a pervert who got what he had coming for sleeping around and shooting up etc.

They made it where you loved him and that’s that.

Most biopics condense/conflate timelines and omit certain people or utilize composite characters for time purposes. Doesn't make them 'untrue.' They're still factual, because many of the things did happen, but perhaps not in the way portrayed in films. It's called dramatic license. I've noticed that many people today consider a biopic a lie if it doesn't include every aspect of a person's life in chronological order or exactly as it happened.

It's not just the Jim Hutton thing that they got wrong (and that's not such a big deal because of where they ended the movie), but they got multiple recording timelines wrong, from Fat Bottomed Girls to the most egregious, the whole bullshit sequence of We Will Rock You, from how it came about to claiming it was recorded in 1981. The entire Mike Myers scene never happened, from the fact that the label actually was supportive of the song to the fact that no one even approximating Myers' character ever existed. If they wanted to write a scene around creating drama about the concern that BR the song was a tough sell, there could have been better ways to do it (even though the entire sequence was unnecessary considering there really was nothing at risk for them releasing the song as a single). It wasn't even needed since the recording of the single was enough to show how difficult it was (and was the only scene in the film (for me) that ever came to life. By the time they got to Live Aid, the fact that the reunion was so full of shit killed any sense of admiration at how they reproduced the concert. And also, by then we'd seen Malek lipsync enough that the effect had worn off and it was just another tedious bit watching him try and navigate his false choppers.

Good Grief 1) The did not get Jim Hutton wrong. At all. 2) Several people explained to you why "the timelines are wrong". How someone can be so clueless about how movies are written and what they are, escapes me. 3) Why on earth do you care when "We will rock you" was written? You got incredibly candid information about how and why it was written pretty straight from the writer Brian May himself, as you know he held everyone involved in the film a 3 hour lecture about it minimum. You want more authenticity than that? You gotta stick to documentaries, though not all of them will deliver that either.

I bet that guy didn’t even see the movie... just read some article and repeated what he read.

R365 It's okay gentle flower. We know you love the movie. Doesn't mean everyone has to. Just because others are bothered by the many inaccuracies doesn't mean you have to be, it's called an opinion. You are okay with the fact that they spent so little time actually exploring the homosexual side of a gay icon, that's fine. Others are not. If you notice, the posters who have problems with the film, simply state their case without attack. You however can't do the same.

[QUOTE]Richard Madden is a Kenneth Branagh protege. Sir Ken cast him as the prince in Cinderella

Which means that they've probably fucked.

R344 they were both ugly

I didn't know a thing about Queen before BR, but in any case I didn't think the movie was anything special. Certainly not best picture worthy.

Best films and performances not even nominated. Ben Foster and Thomasin McKenzie Leave No Trace. Brady Jandreau The Rider. Joachim in You Were Never Really Here. All terrific, all directed by women, all ignored.

Brian Tyree Henry should be in the Best Supporting Actor conversation for If Beale Street Could Talk. It's essentially a cameo, but I think he is incredible and that is such a weak category this year.

Noah Centineo is the perfect example of Italian who CLEARLY has DNA tied to the Middle East and maybe a little Africa. But people will say oh he’s Italian so he’s “white”.

Baby he’s OFF White.

It's better than most best pictures. I can't get over that extremely mediocre Ben Affleck movie that won, the name always escapes me. Argo? And then the media had the audacity to pretend Affleck was snubbed for best director ... Does anyone still remember Spotlight? I assume it was probably alright, but BEST film of a whole year, I doubt it. Mostly forgettable middle brow Oscar bait sweeps.

BR would be something special and memorable for a change, not to mention something gay in a positive way. 100% rooting for it!

Agreed. And I love that it is blowing the possibility of "Black Fucking Panther" winning. More and more each day.

SPOTLIGHT felt like half a movie. I was waiting for all the preliminary stuff to get out of the way so that we could get to the trial... and then it was over.

Only idiot racists are obsessed about BP winning r375. No one seriously has been looking at it to take the prize, you guys just desperately want to it so you can rant about black people.

"Spotlight" might be the worst Best Picture winner in my lifetime. Rachel McAdams rattling off lines as fast as she could so she'd sound smart, Ruffalo doing his cliche blow up "We can't let them get away with this!", Keaton wasted., and, worst of all, more Catholic priests diddling boys and presented as unapologetically gloating about getting away with it. Great for the gay community, so damn tired.

Fuck off, R377, Oprah just came out encouraging voters to award it Best Picture. You are on some sad alternative planet.

(And, for many of us, it's not a racial thing but a cinephile thing where we hate the idea of awarding a stupid comic book movie and encouraging more of them. But everyone is racist in your bullshit world, I guess).

Ruffalo was simply *awful* in SPOTLIGHT. Doing his angry man thing which was an exact repeat of his performance in THE NORMAL HEART. I'm gobsmacked that he received an Oscar nomination for that performance.

I do have to say though that I'm glad it beat THE REVENANT that year.

Also, not wanting BLACK PANTHER to win Best Picture of the Year does not make one racist. Where are you retarded trolls coming from? Awards Daily?

[Quote]Oprah just came out encouraging voters to award it Best Picture.

Snort. Well if Oprah said so! Clearly it is the movie to beat them

Black Panther has never actually been a front runner for BP. Period.

[Quote]Also, not wanting BLACK PANTHER to win Best Picture of the Year does not make one racist.

Learn to read.

Agreed. And giving McAdams an Oscar nod for hooking her hair behind one ear the whole movie was also baffling. I don't think she had a close-up the entire movie and the clip they used for her on Oscar night was her listening to the unapologetic priest she had conveniently tracked down. I don't think she even spoke in it. Best they could find.

[QUOTE]Learn to read.

I did, hon. Why don't you go back and read your own posts.

You are seriously out of touch, R381, and must not be in the business. Oprah's appeal has led to much discussion and not just on DL. It wasn't just a blip. It's played out as the perfect antidote to fixing the OscarSoWhite mess. I'd say "Black Panther" was the front-runner as a result -- until the Globes put "Rhapsody" in the lead.

Of the 24 "experts" that contribute to gold derby, only 2 were predicting a Black Panther win. I dont see that as a front runner, but whatever, this will lead nowhere.

We can all agree that McAdams nomination is a classic example of just nominating a well liked movie for more categories. Her performance was a lot of nothing.

Oprah and Ellen are both drunk with power. They really think they run the world.

McAdams was just there as a spot filler. I was ok with it only cause I genuinely like her and she seemed so happy about it. So good for her.

Spotlight is something many don’t even remember. No lie. They can’t even remember the name. Or they can’t remember what it was about or who was in it.

I do love that The Revenant lost though. Hated that movie, hated Leo’s “performance” and hated Tom Hardy. But Spotlight was a bunch of meh.

Argo was entertaining but Best Picture? Please. Such bullshit. The Kings Speech is another one that shouldn’t have won.

Justice for The Social Network.

The King's Speech felt like a TV movie. The production values looked it, too. I wasn't surprised to learn later that the speech therapist's office was previously used in a porn movie.

This is part of why GG have BR the award. I think for once they abandoned the idea of “Best Reviewed” or “Most Serious and dark” or “Most Political” and went with “Most Beloved by the public that people actually connected with”.

Bohemian Rhapsody has many flaws but it would be an awesome win.

The Chrissy Metz jokes are hurtful. . I’m sure when she’s finished counting her money in her mansion she’ll have a good cry.

[quote]The Chrissy Metz jokes are hurtful. . I’m sure when she’s finished counting her money in her mansion she’ll have a good cry.

And then she’ll have her third dinner.

Chrissy Metz lives in an apartment and has a roommate.

She spends too much on takeout — probably 8,000 to 10,000 calories a day — to have a mortgage.

Morbid obesity doesn't pay for itself!

R325 Just because Cohen's a comedian doesn't mean that he can't be a good actor.

Robin Williams won an Oscar and a SAG award for "Good Will Hunting". He also won Golden Globes for "Mrs. Doubtfire" and "The Fisher King". Jim Carrey gave sensitive performances in the TV show, "The Duck Factory" and the film, "The Truman Show".

Cohen also claimed to be bisexual back in 2016, stating that he's 23% gay but he could have been joking. This could explain why he looks comfortable playing a gay character in "Talladega Nights".

He also had great charisma and screen presence in "Talladega Nights".

She used too r393, she was struggling financially before she landed This Is Us r393.

She has upgraded by now though.

If Chrissy was smart, she'd buy a McDonald's franchise and build an apartment above. A win-win for the fatty.

If Chrissy just received a raise this season to $40k per episode, I doubt she's living in a mansion. Subtract her taxes, agent and manager fees and food- she's probably clearing a couple grand an episode.

Was it Allison Brie who stole her purses?!

Cohen was already nominated for "writing" (improvising?) "Borat". And he was a huge part of Oscar winners "Hugo" and "Les Miz". I think he is far more than Borat and loved him as Time in the second "Alice" movie. The right role (as Freddie could have been) and he will be awarded. He's just got "It".

Cohen is no Freddie. Move on.

Freddie is deaddie.

[quote]r363 Most biopics condense/conflate timelines and omit certain people or utilize composite characters for time purposes.

And worse!

Sometimes they even give you a fuckin' [italic]labotomy[/italic] you never really received.

r394 The worries are about what kind of comedian SBC is. He does mean spirited minstrel shows, basically. Robin Williams was never that and always seen as a great funny/serious actor. Decades before Good Will Hunting.

We will never know how his Freddie Mercury would have turned out. Judging by his comments about wild stories and his attacks on Brian May (like who the fuck is he? Yes, you may believe that I'm a Queen fan), I think we dodged a bullet. Also judging by Maleks and BR's success both with the public and the awards, I doubt what we have was not close to the best outcome possible.

Cohen is a stunt comedian. He’s not a standup comedian like Williams was. And Williams had 2 Oscars noms before Good Will Hunting. He was seen as a real actor since the 80s.

You’re comparing stand up comedians who learn the craft and love it to someone who does stunts and grotesque and mean things to get attention.

R387 I do love that The Revenant lost though. Hated that movie, hated Leo’s “performance” and hated Tom Hardy.

I agree x100

R385 We can all agree that McAdams nomination is a classic example of just nominating a well liked movie for more categories.

Coattail nomination

I feel that may happen with Sam Rockwell this year.

He was fine in VICE but nothing worth a nomination. However, he was better than Bale.

R405 / R406

Rami Malek Awkwardly Snubbed By Nicole Kidman at Golden Globes

[quote]r406 We can all agree that McAdams nomination is a classic example of just nominating a well liked movie for more categories. Coattail nomination

Like stupid Glenn, basically.

Rami Malek was ignored by Nicole Kidman?😱

R410 Nope Glenn is the sole nominee for The Wife she's not getting nominated for strength of her film

That is an incredibly dumb comment r410. No one cares about the Wife except for Glenn's performance.

After watching Glen winning GG I have seen the future. She will win The Oscar.

R414 for THE WIFE?

Nicole didn’t snub Malek. She was clearly not paying attention to that as she was trying to get everyone situated then step off to the side.

She totally saw him watch the video again

And was trying to get out of the way more than anything. She looked overwhelmed.

Watch the acceptance speech. A minute later she says hi to him as the guys giving his speech.

Malek said on Kimmel he met Kidman years ago.

Why on earth should movie star Kidman acknowledge googley eye tv actor Rami? He is not in her class, or any class.

R419, are you Bradley Cooper's stick figure beard?

R403 The majority of Queen's fans are straight dudes. Some of them walked out during the movie in the theatre because they didn't realize that Freddie was gay. I think that having a more PG movie added to the movie's success with the public.

And many, many more remained seated, even of the ones that didn't realize Freddie was gay (though how), and were pretty much made to sympathize with and admire a gay dude.

I remember on my 3rd viewing of the film a group of 3 sitting behind me gay bashing after they found out he was gay.

R423 they were beating up gay people?

[quote]Robin Williams won an Oscar and a SAG award for "Good Will Hunting".

And that's too bad, The Oscar should have gone to Burt Reynolds. The few times Williams didn't go all manic and scream "Nano!, Nano!" the critics genuflected.

R424 sorry no lmao. They were trashing gay people throughout the film. But never left and sang along to the songs and seemed to enjoy the movie. Minus the gay aspect.

When he found out he had Aids they said that’s what he gets for living that sick life.

They were white by the way.

Burt Reynolds should have won for sure.

Williams was nominated twice beforehand.

Please, these BR stories are getting as crazy as the Mary Poppins audiences fleeing the theater with screaming children. Blind people knew Freddy took it up the ass- it's not a shock to anyone.

There were people who did not know

R428 I don't know about the veracity of these stories, but there are young people who had never heard of Queen/Freddy and have discovered them/him via BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY or have learned more about them/him via the film.

I was a sixth grader when WAYNE'S WORLD came out in early '.92. That's when I and many of my friends/classmates first heard "Bohemian Rhapsody." We then learned that Freddy had just died a few months earlier. I don't recall if we learned he was gay then. Probably not, since I think that's something I would have latched onto as a gayling myself. Plus, Ryan White had died a year or so before, which was national news, and Magic Johnson had also recently announced he had HIV, and they were not known/reported to be gay. So, having HIV/AIDS didn't automatically make you gay. We were being taught that it could affect anyone so be careful and use protection.

R430 Gee shame Freddy did not use protection after being diagnosed with HIV, fuck knows how many men he infected the self loathing chicken gimp

[quote]Freddie is deaddie.

That's what I said-dy.

Taylor Swift only got to present because Margot Robbie declined.

Taylor owes Margot a fingerbang.

R433 one can't present at both GGs and Oscars?

How is that Margot Robbie only 28? She looks 40.

Not according to the info in the link, R434.

I'm pretty sure Gary Oldman will be presenting Best Actress at the Oscars, just as he did at the Golden Globes.

R435 why are you asking us? Ask her DNA.

R435 She's lying about her age she's not 28

Her team made this site to apologize to her and say they made a mistake lol

Lmao it’s been proven she’s the age she claims numerous times on here with the year she graduated HS and went to college etc.

Some people look older than they are. Some younger. It’s all about DNA makeup and your features. I know a guy that started balding at 15. It happens.

R411 What a c*nt is Nicole

[quote]I know a guy that started balding at 15.

15 years old?

His name was James.

It's true. He told me all about it in-between his stays at halfway houses.

If Ben Hardy was there I wonder if he gave his ass out to any Hollywood bigwigs ,producers or casting directors as a bit of lubricant for the greasy pole of his acting career?

[quote]How is that Margot Robbie only 28? She looks 40.

It’s possible.