Sound of Music movie questions

OP, Maria was feverishly masturbating at the thought of the CAPT from her first night in the house (when he "blew that silly whistle").

[quote]Is Uncle Max just the gay friend?

And is the Baroness his hag?

I was hoping the captain would blow my whistle.

C Plummer is so hot in that movie

Great movie. I even teared up a few times the last time I saw it

Fun fact, Kevin Spacey originally played the Captain, Plummer was his replacement .

The song Edelweiss was written specifically for the film. Contrary to popular belief, it is not a traditional Austrian folk song.

R6, Spacey was to play the CAPT as an embryo

R7, I know Austrians who swear up and down that Edelweiss was a traditional folk song but it was written for the film

Franz was big into the German S&M scene.

"Edelweiss" wasn't written for the film. It was featured in the original Broadway production. The only songs written for the movie were "I Have Confidence" and "Something Good." The latter replaced "An Ordinary Couple" from the stage show.

[quote]Fun fact, Kevin Spacey originally played the Captain, Plummer was his replacement .

Spacey was 6 when the film was made, so I'm not surprised it didn't work out.

Is it true that Emma Stone was the first choice for Julie Andrews' role?

Jeanette MacDonald was considered for the role of Mother Superior. Then she died.

And, of corse, there is the omission of "How Can Love Survive?" b Otherwise, it was a great film. And climbing a mountain to get to Switzerland, 150 miles away.

They decided to cut Max and Elsa's numbers ("How Can Love Survive" and "No Way to Stop It") to make them outsiders to the immediate family (aka The Trapp Family SINGERS).

The von Trapp villa was actually filmed at two separate locations. The house with the gate and gravel drive is several miles from the lake, and the terrace on the lake was built for the film and that house is just a facade.

I remember as a young gayling thinking the Baronness was so glamorously beautiful and what a fool the Captain was for dumping her for the dowdy and boyish Maria.

Me too. The Baroness was so chic. Maria looked like the muncher she was.

When I learned that the film had been nominated for Best Actress and Supporting Actress, I thought that the Baroness was the supporting role nominated. Frankly, I've never seen what was so award-worthy about the Mother Abbess. But Elsa was everything.

Edelweiss (the flower) plays big in Austrian lore, but not the song.

The Schluchtenscheissers like the tune, though, even though they weren't shown the film on TV until 2000.

The movie desperately needed Rolf dong.

Why has Eleanor Parker been inexplicably been excluded and ignored in every single cast reunion since the 60s? Was she that hated on set? It’s odd as they all pretend her character was never even in the film. It’s like a Commuinst purging of history.

R23 I believe Parker chose not to partake. She retired from acting and public life by 1991, before those reunions became commonplace. The film was only 26 years old at the time. It wasn't until the 30th anniversary in 1995 that they really began doing those reunions.

I still want to know whe the Mother Superior called Maria a cunt face.

Thanks, R24. But that still doesn’t really explain why she has barely been mentioned as being part of the cast in the last 30 years.

Seems odd that they would all intentionally leave Parker out in all the interviews, reunions, etc. Perhaps that was her wish?

Eleanor Parker was thrice nominated for an Oscar, all in the Best Actress in a Leading Role category. When she died in 2013, her son revealed that it took his mother many years to make peace with the fame that the Sound of Music role brought her. Adding that it was only in the last ten years of her life that she came to appreciate that she did the film. So, it is likely Miss Parker declined participating in the SoM interviews and reunions.

Did any of the von trapp children grow up gay in irl ? Kurt?

The story about them escaping on foot over the mountains to Switzerland is fiction. They actually took a train.

The escape in the musical and film was supposed to be symbolic, for God's sake! That's why the song says "Climb every mountain/Ford every stream/Follow every rainbow/Till you find your dream." The movie begins and ends in the Alps. The difference is that Maria is alone at the beginning, and at the end she has a family.

SOM is long, boring, dumb movie. I usually can understand the appeal of a "big event" movie or whatever, even if I can't feel it...but this is a turkey without wings, I'm sorry.

Who else thinks of the movie Beautiful Thing whenever the Baroness is brought up in conversation.

Lucille Ball was originally cast as the Baroness. Gary, of course, talked her out of it.

I feel genuine pity for you, r32.

As an aside, if any fans of Ms. Parker's are already sick of holiday fare, here's a little known movie of hers from 1972.

[quote]Who else thinks of the movie Beautiful Thing whenever the Baroness is brought up in conversation.

My younger brother (who is also gay) and I loved this movie as young teens in the late '90s, and whenever our mom would yell out a question to us (e.g. "What do you boys want for dinner?"), we would always answer with "ELEANOR PARKER!" but in Jamie's weird accent. Usually, she would respond with "What?" and we'd be like "Never mind!" and give her the response she wanted. XD

Friedrich smelling cookies.

^^^ at first glance I thought that said “selling” cookies and thought that’s not very Austrian, tortes would be better!

Probably the worst score R&H ever wrote - the two songs mentioned as being cut are awful along with the abysmal Lonely Goatherd and My Favorite Things - I have never heard of anyone who loved doorbells.

R40 "My Favorite Things" has inexplicably become a holiday classic. It's overplayed around Christmastime.

R37, for those of you not familiar with the film, the line comes in about 4:05. My brother is also gay, but the only inside gay movie tie-in we had was that my brother used to tell people that he sang Somewhere of the Rainbow so beautifully as a child that they wanted him to sing it at Judy Garland’s funeral, but my parents wouldn’t let him.

You're insane, r40, it's one of Rodgers' most accomplished scores, perfectly characterizing story's Austrian roots.

R41, inexplicably????? learn your gay history, Barbra sang it on her Christmas Album! Even as a child though I wondered, what is a nice Jewish girl doing a Christmas Album for?????

Yes, r33! Love the story, r37!

R44 but what does the song have to do with Christmas? The film doesn't even feature a Christmas scene, unlike MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS.

Am I the only one who sensed the homoerotic subtext between Rolf and the Captain?

"Come away with us!"

He really wanted Rolf to tag along.

R46, though it sounded dull, I always thought those brown paper packages tied up with string made for a Nazi era Christmas wrapping. You think some of those girls in blue satin sashes could have given up a few of them to spruce those presents up!

R48 LOL

For the five people here who haven’t seen it.

I remember loving singing My Favorite Things in 5th grade chorus. I was called gay and I thought they meant I was like Sam in Bewitched.

How can a movie that Saint Sally Feld , Jessica Walter , Parker , Julie Harris and to a lesser extent Jill Haworth starred in be forgotten? Certainly not many DLers have ...

The great Eleanor Parker was sublime in SOM should have won an Oscar without a doubt be nominated. Although did you think she was a tad too old for The Captain ?

Even though her character was planning on sending those sweet kids to boarding school didn’t I read she got along very well with the children ?

[quote]The song Edelweiss was written specifically for the film.

No it wasn’t. It was written for the stage version.

"My Favorite Things" has become a Yuletide song because Christmas itself is one of many people's favorite things and it is a season that encourages people to enjoy many of their other favorite things.

In many ways the movie was better than the stage version. (Same goes for "West Side Story.") If you want to make your own comparison, check out the recent television adaptations, which were faithful to the stage version (with much larger roles for Max and Elsa.) The US version with Carrie Underwood, or the more recent UK version with Julian Ovenden and Kara Tointon.

Were ewoks related to the pacunis from land of the lost?

[quote]The von Trapp villa was actually filmed at two separate locations.

This is sadly incorrect. The villa was loaned to the film company by a darling old nazi friend of the Baroness, Manfred von Bratwurst. Manni mistook Julie Andrews for Leni Riefenstahl, and thought they were filming Triumph Of The Will, Part 2.

They had great difficulty filming because of the Horst Wessel song playing constantly on the gramophone, and 'Manni's' insistence on constant toasts of schnapps to the late Fuhrer. The children were horribly drunk throughout the filming, and had to be prevented from singing: Do Re Do Me, Mein Kapitän!

The camera helicopter pilot in the Opening Scene hated Julie Andrews and attempted to decapitate her on every take. He went on to successfully behead Vic Morrow.

Where'd you get that, r7? Here's the OBC version of "Edelweiss," sung by the original Captain Von Trapp, Theodore Bikel:

It is a very well known fact that if you play Edelweiss backwards a voice says: "This song is to dedicated to the memory of the flower of the alps, Magna Goebbels."

In the original cut Maria was an armed and dangerous Nazi-hunter.

Had I known we’d trash “The Sound of Music” so relentlessly, I would have brought along my harmonica!

Alternate endings

Salzburg is a zillion km from Switzerland.

I recently watched the movie for the first time since I was a kid— I had totally forgotten that the Baroness has such a big role. In high-def, all her wrinkles and caked on makeup are very apparent

An closer colleague at work used to go to the ski resort the real Von Trapps ran in Vermont, I believe. The colleague said the real Maria was a no-nonsense bitch

The movie is so so so much better than the script for the play. I just can’t watch the play any more. It’s the same with West Side Story

Sad that none of the kids had a major acting career. All sort of languished in middling roles

R63, which makes their escape over the Alps so much more thrilling!

I dated one of the ski instructors at their Vermont resort.

What r65 said.

[quote] the Baroness has such a big role. In high-def, all her wrinkles and caked on makeup are very apparent

Seems to be in character! I too loved the baroness as a boy. I couldn't understand why the captain preferred the plain woman with a funny nose and big jaw.

Yes, they took the train northern Italy, where the Captain had dual citizenship because of the way the borders were redrawn after World War I. If they'd escaped over the Alps from Salzburg, they would have found themselves in Germany.

What did the Maria experience the first time the CAPT went down on her?

The true meaning of “cunt face”, r72

A new favorite thing, r72.

[quote]The movie is so so so much better than the script for the play. I just can’t watch the play any more. It’s the same with West Side Story

"West Side Story" and "The Sound of Music" were both adapted for the screen by Ernest Lehman.

^ And both directed by Robert Wise, although William Wyler did two years of pre-production on TSOM. He lost interest and dropped out to direct The Collector. Fox and the producers only allowed him to do that because Wise was available and willing to take over immediately.

I saw a good theater production a few years ago & the story seemed just like the movie; maybe they rejigged the book with Lehman's improvements.

R64, you need to adjust the settings on your TV to film, unless you are watching something like sports. The visuals on movies are ruined if you don't. Everything looks like cheap video.

I don't associate The Sound of Music with Christmas, I always associate it with Easter. When I was growing up it was always shown on Easter Sunday.

I meant 1972. No recourse for DL.

Sorry, wrong thread again.

I like the subdued colors of the film. They resisted the temptation to make it a garish technocolor fantasy.

I also like "My Favorite Things." My favorite song in the score. I wish it had been part of the Mary Poppins score instead.

R76 according to the documentary THE SOUND OF MUSIC: FROM FACT TO PHENOMENON, Wyler really didn't do much of anything script-wise other than wanting to make the Anschluss an extended action sequence. His heart wasn't in it and was just biding his time (and stringing Fox along) until a better offer came around.

Mary Poppins did Spoonful of Sugar instead.