Who or What is "Babe Paley?"

A CGI talking pig with a couple of movies.

OP, surely you can't be serious.

She is an elegant lady on the local cultural scene.

If you have to ask...

...you can't afford her.

So I guess nobody knows…?

Dear fucking christ r6.

Do you have no hands?

But why do some DLers sign their post as her?

r7 Is the guy in the background laughing at Babe's ridiculous dress?

I cannot believe op is serious.

R1 has it right.

Her husband was the chairman of CBS. She was a well-known fashion icon. Truman Capote included her as one of his 'swans', but she later cut off contact with him when 'Answered Prayers' was published.

Read "The Swans of Fifth Avenue"

Certainly far superior to drabs like Mrs. Patrick Campbell.

Thank you, R2!

And while we're at it, who is Mrs. Patrick Campbell?

^^R12!^^

R15, Mrs Patrick Campbell was an actress of the Victorian and early modern area. She performed both in Britain and the US. The person that DL knows as Mrs Patrick Campbell (aka Erna aka Catherine of Siena) is widely seen as a troll with very sordid habits, who is frequently banned.

She never smiles in photos because she had wooden teeth.

[quote]Read "The Swans of Fifth Avenue"

Don’t, it’s bad.

She's that wealthy gal who is constantly trying to live up to my effortless, constitutional chicness.

....

This is all so tawdry and crass.

My great uncle was her dentist, and she did have a partial denture, which she slept in to her own detriment.

I believe she's like Erna or Cheryl, can't remember which.

No fun.

OP ,i doubt your trailer park culture needs to know about her.Maybe you should start lower,Roseanne maybe an work your way up.

"an work your way up."

Big feet, like most horsey WASPs.

Christ wept.

[quote]I believe she's like Erna or Cheryl, can't remember which.

Not mutually exclusive.

Now, imagine an Erna that smells as bad as Cheryl.

"Babe Paley" is the opposite of "Erna"

Hilarious that you queens would expect people in 2018 to know who Babe Paley was. Unless you follow NYC social history, which few do, her name wouldn't be all that important.

R32 I guess you are one of those hilarious queens then too. :-)

I don't think Babe Paley was well-known to the public even in her lifetime.

R32 That is the point. What is more peak DL than a reference only the cognoscenti get?

LOL at DL "cognoscenti." More like porn-addicted shut-ins who stopped paying attention to the world around 1985.

R36 is projecting. Again.

It's called humor r37.

Christ, there are gay men who barely even know who Joan Crawford or Bette Davis were, you expect them to know someone as semi-obscure as Babe Paley?

r32, you seem to be under the delusion that people are posting here to speak to idiots.

She was a doyenne of class , unlike this festering sore of an OP.

39 you seem to be under the delusion that people in 2018 would remember some useless socialite from half a century ago who wasn't even all that well-known. We're not talking about Katharine Hepburn or Eleanor Roosevelt.

She was one of the Cushing sisters, I believe. All beautiful. Smoked herself to death.

[quote]Christ, there are gay men who barely even know who Joan Crawford or Bette Davis were, you expect them to know someone as semi-obscure as Babe Paley?

Anyone who knows American literature, and, therefore, Truman Capote, would know of Babe Paley.

And, besides, who wants to post to the lowest common denominator anyway? That's what Instagram is for!

And those who know medicine, know her father, surgeon Harvey Cushing.

Those who know television, know her husband, CBS' William Paley.

Those who know the Roosevelts, know her sister married FDR's son before marrying Jock Whitney, a name familiar to those who have studied the production of GWTW or the 20th century economic history of the US.

I knew who Babe Paley was before most of you were born.

Who cares about that bitch? I had all the fun.

Wow r44 you're really reaching.

JFC how old and niche are you queens to expect people to know who Babe Paley was?

R48 Not knowing anything that happened before the day your were born doesn't make you young; it makes you ignorant.

She was another Arlene Francis or Kitty Carlisle, except that she married well when she realized that she didn’t have much to offer the world. Too bad no one ever told Kitty and Arlene.

r49 Babe Paley was a rich man's wife who did nothing of note and wasn't terrible well-known outside of certain circles. I would give you Eleanor Roosevelt or Jackie Kennedy, for example. Yes, a younger person not knowing who they were would be quite ignorant. But Baby Paley? Come on.

Long after her death, Babe Paley remains an icon in the world of fashion and style. "Babe Paley had only one fault," commented her one-time friend Truman Capote. "She was perfect. Otherwise, she was perfect."

[R49]

#FACTS

"Truman Capote had only one fault," lamented his one-time friend, Babe Paley. "Truman."

Babe Paley made dying of lung cancer something fashionable.

I agree with you R51 (except that Baby Paley part). She did nothing of note but was just a society dame. Like Nan Kempner, another nothing of her time. We can't expect younger people to remember them.

Babe Paley was everything Dataloungers aspire to: Married to rich man with an enormous dick, hobnobbed with celebrities, threw perfect parties, and died before the wrinkles got too noticeable.

A hero.

I don't give a SHIT who Mrs. Patrick Campbell is!!

So to speak ...

Babe Paley—known for her high-profile marriage to CBS founder William Paley and her ranking in the International Best-Dressed Hall of Fame—was one of the reigning doyennes of New York’s high society in the 1950s.

[quote]She was another Arlene Francis or Kitty Carlisle

I don't think so! Was Babe ever in the legitimate theater?

Babe had style, but, a great beauty? She looked like Hedda Lettuce's older, plainer sister.

She did have style and was a huge fashion infuence. She was photographed with her scarf tied around her purse, and started a trend.

R61 judges beauty using the overdone, over surgified women of the 2000s as his guide post.

Babe Paley was the WASP ideal of beauty borne of class and breeding.

Like Secretariat.

[quote]Was Babe ever in the legitimate theater?

According to Babe, there is no "legitimate" theater. They are all trash; just some more obvious about it.

[quote]Babe Paley was the WASP ideal of beauty borne of class and breeding.

But was relegated to "cafe society" for marrying a Jew...

R23 Tell us more! What else did he say about her?

Truman said that Babe slept with her dentures -- and full makeup -- until Bill fell asleep.

Then, she removed both.

But she set the alarm clock to wake up before her husband. So she could be in perfect hair, teeth, and makeup when the maid brought in coffee to wake him.

I admire that devotion to illusion.

I love that someone with the name "Babe" was accepted by New York's upper crust. It's like when Hyacinth says that Porky Hooten sounded very "public school."

R68 New York's upper crust *gave* her the name.

[quote]r32 Hilarious that you queens would expect people in 2018 to know who Babe Paley was. Unless you follow NYC social history, which few do, her name wouldn't be all that important.

She was a style icon of her time. It's not that she's so famous on her own, it's more that she crops up a lot when you read about the early jet set society. Or if you read biographies on old movie stars of smart historic figures like Jackie Kennedy, she'll turn up in those.

An interesting thing is that her husband was a horrible cheapskate, and for all her style, she had to cut corners wherever she could. Like, she'd buy straw hats and the dime store, etc., and make them smart.

It's sad that almost all those society women were basically whores...just with safer long term jobs.

Hardly any of them actually cared for their husbands.

I guess it helped that everyone was drunk - -

R71 Darling, EVERYTHING is better when you're drunk.

"Babe Paley was a rich man's wife who did nothing of note and wasn't terrible well-known outside of certain circles. "

I beg your pardon.

Did her pussy stink?

I'd think sleeping with dentures would make them all yucky and hard to clean...

[quote]you seem to be under the delusion that people in 2018 would remember some useless socialite from half a century ago

If you're the least bit cultured you'll know who Babe Paley is. Truman Capote, CBS, her influence on American fashion.

Have you ever been to Paley Park on East 53rd Steet?

You can know about Truman Capote and CBS without really knowing who Babe Paley was. Only gay men of a certain age seem to care about these old high-society women.

[quote]You can know about Truman Capote and CBS without really knowing who Babe Paley was.

No, you can't.

If you know Capote you know "Answered Prayers" and "La Côte Basque 1965". And therefore you know who Babe Paley is.

And if you're informed about the history of American fashion, you know who Babe Paley is.

Yes, you can r78.

"No you can't, no you can't, no you can't!"

She was a Washington DC socialite friends with Katherine graham and Andy Warhol married to....

Not acknowledging Babe Paley and Jacqueline B. K. Onassis as the style icons of the mid century is truly the divider between us and all the others.

I love it when ignorant people try so hard to make that seem like a quality.

A very unforgiving bitch.

Knowing of Babe Paley is what separates man from other apes.

R84 Oh, honey, even if she had forgiven you, you'd have been too strung out to recall . . .

Not knowing who Paley is like ordering a whopper without the cheese....hope that explains it better to you cretins

R86: I was a writer! Who did they think I was: their Court Jester?

To all of you who don't know Babe Paley, she forgives you.

Yes, she is that polite.

I thought someone else did the scarf on the bag thing.

Could Anna Kendrick play her?

Turn in your gay card!

[quote]I thought someone else did the scarf on the bag thing.

Lilly Pulitzer?

No, it was Babe with the scarf.

Lilly Pulitzer was flashy Florida trash, not elegant Manhattan sophistication.

"I have seldom known a person, who deserted the truth in trifles and then could be trusted in matters of importance." -Babe Paley

[quote]"I have seldom known a person, who deserted the truth in trifles and then could be trusted in matters of importance." -Babe Paley

A woman whose husband fucked bimbos in their town place at the St. Regis knows what she is talking about.

I thought Jackie did the scarf on the bag.

You forget the scarf I delivered to the handbag was MY POWER! I can tie it any way I want. It's a sword. It cuts both ways.

I am sorry but Lily Pulitzer was not Florida flashy trash. She was no Babe Paley or Slim Keith, but she is and was a goddess in the WASPY UMC frauen world.