Was Jordan Knight of NKOTB being groomed to be the Justin Timberlake of that group?

What is the Timberlake solo song?

hate all of these stupid boy band people - what a bunch of sell outs - timberflake sucks so does lance fat ass

R1 “Gone” where it was basically a solo with the other guys doing background vocals for him. You could see by that point he was being pushed to the forefront. Even giving him a video for the song and making it a single.

R2 Lance Bass doesn’t even do music. He’s like a media personality now.

good - because all of these people have very little to no musical talent - everything about them is fake - their corny songs are written for them, produced for them, choreographed for them, and costumed for them - they're liked trained monkeys

Jordan Knight had a big hit single out in 1999 called Give It To You. It was a big hit, earned a gold record, and I remember buying the cassette single.

The hit.

His ONLY hit. He would have faired better had he released that 8 years prior as intended.

He's 48 now.

is he still taking it in the pooper?

R9 was he ever taking it in the pooper? His brother is gay though.

"Gone" was credited to N'Sync, You may be the only person who thinks that it's a Timberlake solo song.

R11 I don’t care who it’s credited to. It’s a Timberlake vehicle song.

Jordan was the best good looking boybander. He was handsome and very attractive in his 20s

I love this video. It’s so unintentionally homoerotic. He was adorable.

He was stupid, waited 9-10 years to go solo? Lol

Did Knight have a kid prior to starting his solo career? And I don't mean "have a kid" in a Lou Pearlman way.

R16 yes. He did.

[quote] because all of these people have very little to no musical talent - everything about them is fake - their corny songs are written for them, produced for them, choreographed for them, and costumed for them - they're liked trained monkeys

Excuse me?

The open shirt, the perfect beautiful hair blowing in the wind machine, the dance moves, the jazz hands... this is Campiness Gold.

I actually love it. He was hot. Perfect tight young body on him here.

He was Lou Perelman's bitch until that guy from O -T took over.

He still has a hot bod.

Lou had a bitch in every group. Usually it was the youngest of the group, minus this group, where it was Jordan.

NSYNC = Justin

BSB = Nick

O-Town = Ashley

I always found them interesting as a group. I loved Step by Step when it came out. I was a kid at the time and LOVED it. I always wanted to see them Live. They had so much energy. You can even feel it though videos.

I always found Jordan to be the hottest.

Strange nipples.

great looking "pretty boy" in his youth and now a great looking "masculine handsome" man now... and the body is still working...

R21’s pic makes me say “where’s the beef?”

There's something mildly ladyish about this.

He’s hot. Still.

He’s odd though.

He was always the one they had front in center starting with their second album. He was the best dancer, best vocalist, and the best looking. He also had the most charm and charisma. He was a star in his youth. And the most marketable as far as looks.

I still listen to The Right Stuff sometimes and feel like a kid again. This was the video I fell in love with him. That face.

^They're terrible.

He wasn't "groomed," to be anything. He was one of the lead singers, along with the young blonde one.

I thought it was his brother, not Jordan, that left the business because he couldn't get a grip on his anxiety.

Meant to say: He was one of the lead singers so naturally he'd be expected to break out. The other three barely sang and were essentially back up dancers.

But your look always plays a role in being pushed to the front, no matter the talent. That is something very honest from “Dreamgirls”. R32

Their song “Summertime” from their comeback is a guilty pleasure of mine

I bet his ass is smooth

He's a bit of a deplorable though.

I followed him on Instagram for a bit. It wasn't all about politics but here and there, then unfollowed him. Don't know if that's still the case.

I always thought his gay brother was hotter.

But like Lance Bass, he married a famewhore starfucker.

Sure, R33, but if you're the lead singer, you're going to be pushed to the front, regardless. Three of the other guys, rarely sang, if at all.

On a side note, for a long while, I seemed to be on the same flight schedule as Danny. Heading to the same city, from the same city. We also both seemed to have the tendency of picking the same seat on the flight, so we were usually sitting next to each other (across the aisle).

He was always very happy to take photos with fans.

Lead singers aren't always the best singers...

They were in NKOTBs case.

R40 exactly. He was pushed lead because of his looks. Fortunately he was also the best singer besides Joey, who was a kid.

Donnie did vocals also but always auto tuned

Autotune didn't exist back then, did it?

None of them could sing. Simple as that

r43 no, but something was done to Donnie's vocals. They may have used someone else for some songs. NKOTB got a of shit by the time their 3rd album came out for all the lip-synching they did, minus Jordan. It was a big deal back then.

Truth is that even if Jordan could not sing for shit, he was physically the package, and was gonna be up front and center no matter what. That is how it works in the industry.

Listen to the Autotune on the Jonas Brothers in their underwear new song. They can't sing either. Especially Risky Business Nick. Terrible shit. They're not even cute.

Sweeeeet hole. C’mon ya know it! Aaaaah sweeeet hooooole! Yeah! Dat’s right! Boy’s got a sweeet one! Yeah!

Sure, R46.

r49 knows nothing about the music industry. They werent a badass band, they were a pop boy group. Its all about sales. Not music or art.

Say that again R46!

Yes, R50, you are the end all, be all and the only one who knows what they're talking about. We've established that.

r52 it is not about that, it is the TRUTH. They are groups formed for teenage girls. And NKOTB did not form themselves, like NSYNC or BSB and try to get signed, they were created by Lou himself.

Please, for someone claiming they know so much about the music industry they don't realize that they wouldn't put a boy band together without the lead singer being attractive in the first place.

If Jordan couldn't sing for shit, they would have replaced him with someone who could sing and who was attractive.

Name one boy band where the lead singer isn't attractive.

And THAT is how the music industry works.

Exactly, R52, which proves my point. They didn't form themselves. If Jordan couldnt sing he wouldnt have been the star. They wouldve found someone who was better looking and could sing.

[Quote] they wouldn't put a boy band together without the lead singer being attractive in the first place.

Not true.

Exactly, R54.

[Quote] They wouldve found someone who was better looking and could sing.

You need to do the education.

Guess which one's the lead singer...

Milli Vanilli was not a boy band. Try harder.

Was anyone in 98 Degrees really attractive? Nick Lachey had a big rack but otherwise...

Take That? Go look at the history of how that band was formed. It was formed with the goal of creating a band AROUND Gary.

Indeed. But he wasn't cast for his looks, therefore the claim that they would have found someone good looking to be the lead singer is incorrect.

Does that one member of 98 Degrees still give Glory Hole BJs?

Take That also wasn't formed with the sole aim of being a Boy Band getting teenage girls wet, so it stands.

What was it formed with the aim of? Bringing Barry Manilow songs to a new generation?

[Quote] Does that one member of 98 Degrees still give Glory Hole BJs?

It's the one with the goatee, isn't it?

Surprsingly, no, R67.

[quote]What was it formed with the aim of? Bringing Barry Manilow songs to a new generation?

[quote]Martin-Smith's vision, however, was a teen-orientated group that would appeal to more than one demographic segment of the music industry. Martin-Smith was then introduced to young singer-songwriter Gary Barlow, who had been performing in clubs since the age of 15. Impressed with Barlow's catalogue of self-written material, Martin-Smith decided to build his new-look boy band around Barlow's musical abilities.

And they certainly achieved the worldwide success other Boy Bands had with that formula.

I would actually concede one of the exceptions could be NYSNC because frankly, they were all ugly as fuck.

[Quote] Surprsingly, no, [R67].

Oh, well. The one on the left is actually the best looking, if bland.

R71 and he's a Right Wing Religious Nut who cheated on his wife with a Real Housewife!

[Quote] Martin-Smith's vision, however, was a teen-orientated group that would appeal to more than one demographic segment of the music industry. Martin-Smith was then introduced to young singer-songwriter Gary Barlow, who had been performing in clubs since the age of 15. Impressed with Barlow's catalogue of self-written material, Martin-Smith decided to build his new-look boy band around Barlow's musical abilities.

That describes most pop acts - start with teens/tweens and try to appeal to older with the second/third album (if they get that far). And the subtext of the latter part is like with most groups: "We don't see it for any of these people as individuals, so let's put them together and see if Y can provide what X lacks etc."

I’ve masturbated to all of them dozens of times.

By a process of elimination, are we saying the Lachey that's not Nick likes to give thanks on his knees?

No, most bands formed geared towards a tween girl audience makes sure that the front person is the most attractive.

Unless, as we've already stated, they're NSYNC, where they're all equally ugly.

Good deduction skills!

In the early 1990s, Knight was linked to teen pop singer Tiffany; both denied dating at the time. In 2009, the National Enquirer published an article from his ex-boyfriend which outed him as gay. In a January 2011 interview, Tiffany stated that he is gay, which he then confirmed, saying "I have lived my life very openly and have never hidden the fact that I am gay." In a statement on the New Kids on the Block blog, he added "Apparently the prerequisite to being a gay public figure is to appear on the cover of a magazine with the caption 'I am gay'. I apologize for not doing so if this is what was expected!" Knight has been in a relationship with Harley Rodriguez as of 2008. The two participated in the 26th season of the reality competition series The Amazing Race, which aired on CBS in early 2015, where they placed 9th. The two became engaged when Knight proposed on November 15, 2016 while they vacationed in Africa.

I fucked em all!

r78 that is the other Knight...

I remember when they did that TERRIBLE performance at the AMA's with Flava Flav in 1991

Jordan is great and all but he was no Tommy Page.

Holy shit, Tommy Page is dead?

Jordan was very handsome. I remember when he was on Surreal Life.... he was cool but a bit of a diva.

TOMMY PAIGE WAS A FAKE MUSICIAN ON FULL HOUSE

[quote]TOMMY PAIGE WAS A FAKE MUSICIAN ON FULL HOUSE

How RUDE!

I'm also now reminded of this FABULOUS duet Donnie tried it with.

I'm a 90s kid but I never heard that hit until the guy killed himself. It's strange how some hits disappear almost as soon as they chart.

Tommy Page's suicide. :(

Is he actually considered a pop star if no one knew he was a real life artist and thought he was a Full House ccreation?

Its a shame cell phones and social media didnt exist in 1990. I bet we would have gotten many NKOTB nude leaks.

[QUOTE] Jordan was the best good looking boybander. He was handsome and very attractive in his 20s

Harry Styles is more attractive.

[quote]Is he actually considered a pop star if no one knew he was a real life artist and thought he was a Full House ccreation?

Your ignorance isn't the world's fault.

He was only on Full House because Junior High girls loved the shit out of Tommy Page.

[quote]Autotune didn't exist back then, did it?

Blending existed.

But listening to Please Don't Go Girl, Joey's vocals have Autotune quality to it.

[Quote] Harry Styles is more attractive.

You're on the internet. You can't just lie like that. We have receipts.

They still do it with the shitty drum machine?!

It's funny that after NKOTB broke up, Joey couldn't get a recording contract.

R95 he released a solo album....

I would take this over Styles any day

r95 his solo album back in like 99

I never thought Jordan was being groomed for solo success. NKOTB was one of those groups where they really needed to stick together because on their own they just were not as dynamic. If anything, I thought it might be Joey since he was the youngest and seemed to get most of the screams.

Having said that, Donnie and Joey actually formed pretty good acting careers, especially Donnie. Joey was actually really funny in The Heat as Melissa McCarthy's brother.

In the late 90s both Joey and Jordan had hit singles, likely being able to capitalize on the renaissance of teen pop in the '90s thanks to N*Sync, Britney and BSB. But they were not able to ride the wave of the renaissance.

However, you've got to hand it to NKOTB. They still look good and they're very smart to tour based on nostalgia. The boat cruises, the '80s themed tours with Tiffany and Debbie Gibson et al. They're very successful at it.

There would be no BSB or NSYNC without NKOTB

Yeah, R96... which was 5 years after the band broke up and he had to initially pay for on his own and sold on his website.

He wasn't able to get a contract with anyone, even immediately following the break up of the band, most likely due to the timing of everything and Grunge taking over.

[quote]There would be no BSB or NSYNC without NKOTB

And no NKOTB without New Edition.

And Nno New Edition without the Jackson 5 and...

[Quote] they're very smart to tour based on nostalgia. The boat cruises, the '80s themed tours with Tiffany and Debbie Gibson et al. They're very successful at it.

How is that smart? That's the norm.

SO who ever above posted they were a Lou Perlman group is a moron. Lou used to run private jets for rent and wondered how these kids could afford a private jet rental and found out they were a boy band. So can thank NKOTB for Lou the molester.

NKOTB is smart because they have their OWN cruise. Not an 80s cruise it is their fans. NKOTB was special because they were charting on urban charts. No other boy band was charting on the urban charts and pop charts.

r104 they started on the Urban Charts, and were not charting on the pop charts. Their sound started off as urban. Remember, they were the white version of New Edition... it was for the second album that their producers and label realized they could be something way bigger, and they switched to more pop/urban and made Jordan the lead. After that they shot to the top. By their 3rd album they were full blown pop.

[quote]No other boy band was charting on the urban charts and pop charts.

Really?

I guess someone defines boys bands as white unless stated otherwise...

According to Billboard NYSNC charted on Pop and Urban charts.

I was surprised that NSYNC only had 2 #1s. Even Britney has 5.

Even Britney? As if she were a one hit wonder....

Britney's chart placings took a nosedive. Lots of her hits have mediocre placings because of chart rules / business deals.

[quote]Even Britney? As if she were a one hit wonder....

Yes, "even" Britney because while Britney was a global success, her ratio of singles to #1s is really low, so it's a surprise that NYSNC's is even lower.

Britney sold 180 million albums and sold out tours....

Britney also can't sing. Same as these white "boys."

[quote]Britney sold 180 million albums and sold out tours....

Yes, and has 41 singles and only 5 hit #1... one of which she only sings the hook of.

Its 2020... no one cares about singles anymore. People werent buying her singles like crazy (she still had many Top 10) because they were buying her albums in full.

When your album comes out January 1999 and you still have the 10th best selling album of the 90s decade, you did well.

Britney sang fine when she started.

I meant at the time - no WHITE boy bands were charting on the Urban Charts. NKOTB and George Michael were getting urban charts and some of the black artists were pissed.

At that time, US record labels were not invested in selling singles but in selling albums. That affected singles chart peaks because some singles were not easily available outside of their parent album.

Many black people still hate NKOTB

Good to know.

But like the Bee Gees.

The black people that hate NKOTB is because they are seen as white artists that used black inspired music and dancing and culture to sell albums, which they did at first. They were LITERALLY the white version of New Edition.

Maurice Starr was behind both New Edition and New Kids on the Block.

[quote]Its 2020... no one cares about singles anymore. People werent buying her singles like crazy (she still had many Top 10) because they were buying her albums in full.

Yes, it's 2020 and her career was at its peak in the late 90s and early aughts when singles mattered, regardless of album sales.

R117 what other white boy band was there when NKOTB was around?

The sponsorship of Spears' first tour was given to Pepsi. Clear Channel, who wanted to sponsor it, retaliated at losing the contract by blacklisting her from stations owned by them. Hence, the dip in her singles placings while her album sales remained high.

Late 90s? Sweetie, Oops came out a year later and sold 20 million albums.... a year after Britney came out and sold 16 million albums...

Jordan did have a minor hit in the late 90's. Fun fact, the girl in the video is Donnie Walberg's partner on the show blue bloods.

[quote] Its a shame cell phones and social media didnt exist in 1990. I bet we would have gotten many NKOTB nude leaks.

Nude Kids on the Block?

I vaguely recall reading an article in the Star supermarket tabloid around 1990 when NKOTB were popular. It was billed as a shocking expose on how the New Kids weren't as wholesome as their image. The article was about their backstage debauchery, including sex with (female) groupies. If I'm remembering it correctly, the photo that accompanied the article was a photo of Mark Wahlberg (who wasn't one of the New Kids but would hang out with Donnie and the rest of them) posing totally nude backstage, but the tabloid superimposed a giant star over his dick. This was probably a year or two before he became "Marky Mark" (and before the Internet took off). For many years afterward, I hoped that the uncensored photo would surface on the Internet.

Yes. But he couldn’t sustain it and make another hit.

R129 all male musicians get laid more than anyone in the world.

The guys now even admit they fucked many girls during their youth, and moms too.

[quote[Late 90s? Sweetie, Oops came out a year later and sold 20 million albums.... a year after Britney came out and sold 16 million albums...

What part of, "early aughts," did you not nunderstand, sweetie?

^I'm clearly drunk but you get it.

"Was Jordan Knight being groomed to be the Justin Timberlake of NKOTB?" And I got trashed for trying to do a thread about 5 Seconds Of Summer...

[quote]I vaguely recall reading an article in the Star supermarket tabloid around 1990 when NKOTB were popular. It was billed as a shocking expose on how the New Kids weren't as wholesome as their image. The article was about their backstage debauchery, including sex with (female) groupies

I highly doubt Jon was having sex with female groupies...

Janie Lane was having sex with female groupies AND denizens of DL.

Jon was too busy having hot sex with big tittied Tiffany!

[quote] I highly doubt Jon was having sex with female groupies

No, I think it was mostly Donnie and Danny.

R138 and Jordan, who in 1990 was the most popular besides Donnie. Danny and Jon were never as popular and Joey was younger so most older teenage girls weren’t throwing themselves at him.

Joey doing community theater (playing Dion of Dion & The Belmonts)

^What an unfortunate Irish face he has. Did he grow up malnourished? Rickets? An orphan?

r53 Lou wasn't responsible for NKOTB that was Maurice Starr. All of those groups were in part formed by their managers, but some members were discovered or recommended by other group members themselves: Kevin from BSB brought his cousin Brian into the group, Justin and his mom found Lance and convinced him to join, NSYNC, Donnie knew some of the members of NKOTB from school and had them join the band etc.

R142 they had someone different originally and then dropped him and wanted to find someone very young, and searched and found 12 year old Joey McIntyre. The other four knew each other, he was from a different part of Boston.

The four were from a poor part and Joey was from an upper class Suburb in Boston.

Joey would go home crying and wanted to quit because of how mean the older guys were to him. They had to finally let him know they were just busting his balls and treating him like a younger brother, and convinced him to stay.

R141

May mangy leprechauns tear up your hole, laddie!

blah.

In most boy bands BSB and after, there's one or two who actually can sing very well, and then the rest are just kind of there for show. they can sing a bit, but they're not the strong voices.

Justin T. really CAN sing, but the rest of N*SYNC (except for JC) couldn't sing lead if their lives depended on it.

R147 that is why JC and Justin sang all the leads. Besides the fact they were the faces for the group.

98Degrees was only Nick Lachey

The hottest one with most presence is always plucked out to be the front and end up with a solo career. The others try to follow but never live up to that ones. Or non live up to it b

NKOTB= Jordan and Joey

NSYNC = Justin and JC

98Degrees = Nick Lachey

BSB = Nick Carter

OTown = Ashley Parker Angel

I liked Ashley’s solo single, though. He was more pop punk rock.

Ashley Parker Angel was actually the Weakest singer of that group. Supposedly the other guys hated him. He wasn’t even originally picked, someone else was. They dropped out and then someone else was picked, and then Lou decided to fire that 5th person and went with APA because the band needed “the face” and “the baby” of the group that would be a teen heartthrob, like Justin and Nick Carter were.

By the time their 3rd album came Jordan was clearly the one they had in mind to make the most $$$ off of. I mean even during their concerts he was always put front and center, and they had to just stand in place, dance in place and sing back up for him while he got to run around and roam the stage in freedom.

Jordan had gorgeous thick dark hair.

I will repeat this story expecting the usual sure jans. I have a "friend: who works in music PR. He told me that he had a meeting with Jordan Knight at the record company. My friend is hot as fuck. He says he meets with him, it is just he and Jordan. Jordan says "you ever seen a nine inch cock" then stands up has his dick out. My firend blew him in the conference room, says it was nice, very thick about 8 but not nine.

R152 seriously? Enough with the fan fiction.

The rise of Grunge and Hip Hop killer pop music, including NKOTB, but you all forget in 1995 they got back together and released a Grunge/Hip Hop album. It is hysterical to listen to now.

r150 that is not true - they were all picked on Making the Band on MTV. Ikika was the one who left the original ban and was replaced by Dan - the obviously gay one.

r153 I am only retelling and I have no reason not to believe my friend. Mind you this was years ago near the height of their popularity.

[quote] The black people that hate NKOTB is because

Oh, DEAR!

Jordan looks like one of them girls from Fact Of Life in R151. They're all before my time, but he looks like a tough girl. I don't care for his lesbian updo.

He looks like a beautiful man

Which one was hospitalized for cum?

All of them, R159.

Lil Kim r159

Ashley Parker Angel had a reality show later on MTV or VH1 or something, when I was young. Him and his baby mama. I remember one scene where he had to go food shopping and didn't really know what to do. And another scene where one of the guys in his band was working construction - and Ashley, too, I think. It was maybe the first time I realized not everyone who was ever on TV or in music has a forever career or money.

R162 he does Broadway and plays in NYC now. He is doing better now after divorcing his wife.

His son was on AHS Hotel.

See, I was wrong. Everyone who was ever on TV does have a forever career and money.

They can always come back

There used to be a time when teen heartthrobs went away after their shelf life was over. And other flashes in the pan. But now I don't know if anyone noticed - this never happens any more. Now there are at least conventions for so many ex-TV shows, so there's money to be made. Charging for m&g's, photo ops and autographs. At best the teen sensations get a new life, like the NKOTB/BSB shows (aka, NKOTBSB). Too bad someone like Jamie Walters couldn't have hung on a little longer (I think he's an EMT now - which is cool) ...but really no one's career actually dies now. And with Quentin Tarantino, no former movie stars get left behind either. We no longer get to gloat about all the has-beens.

r23, that has to be one of the worst live performances I've ever seen but I do love Step by Step, video. That was my jam when I was like 8 years old.

R167 I think Jordan was awesome.

Jordan was the best looking and I like his nipples.

1d were more successful than these hoes. Even Louis Floplinson walked out with 30m.

Concert engagements have always been the primary money maker for recording artists. And concert ticket prices are at an all time high, right? It's no surprise that 1D made more money.

Styles is already making more money per year than he did in 1d, via two number one albums, merch and arena tours.

NKOTB outsold Michael Jackson and Madonna in the early 90s and made over $150 million in One Year. They brought in money.

R22 I always thought JC Chasez was the one in *NSYNC bending over for Pearlman? He was definitely the prettiest. I thought Timberlake was too supervised.

Jordan looks hot still. JC looks like SHIT

JC would look better if he stopped dyeing his hair. Long hair doesn't really suit him either.

He looks ok here. He was never exactly a knockout. Good eyes but the rest was always meh.

Didn't Donnie tell a story about all the New Kids, except Jonathan, jerking off together in a hotel room ?

R178 no

I think he enjoys admiration from the girls and the boys.

r178 Only in your dreeeeeeeams

The guys from NSYNC were always so ugly looking to me. BSB, 98, even O-Town were way cuter.

Ramen noodle head, fuggo Kirkpatrick, dizzy blond queen...when Joey Fatone is your "hot one" then you know you're in trouble.

Justin was the hot one.

I'm positive Donnie told a story in an interview where he said they were jerking off in a hotel room together

JC always comes off bitter about Justin’s solo success vs him flopping hard.

[quote] JC always comes off bitter about Justin’s solo success vs him flopping hard.

I think JC might have been able to have successful solo career if he hadn't released that stupid "All Day Long I Dream About Sex" song. That pretty much killed his bid for a solo career.

Are you forgetting "Some Girls Dance With Women"?

R186 the entire album FLOPPED. No way he was having a successful solo career. Most dont.

JT and Beyoncé are rare.

I always thought that JC would be the successful member of NSYNC, which sadly was not to be. Haven’t heard from him in such a long time.

Always loved “Step by Step” very catchy song.

JC’s solo album sold a total of 121,000 copies. He was never gonna have a big career. Some aren’t solo acts.

I met Jordan once many years ago briefly. He was a dickhead for no reason. So if he acts like that on a regular basis behind the scenes, it’s no wonder his solo career never took off.

[Quote] He was a dickhead for no reason.

Paint us the picture.

Some people say he is nice. Some say he isn’t. He is someone that likes to be to himself and left alone. He grew up poor and sharing a room with siblings, and then was always with NKOTB. He was never alone. Once they broke up he became very introverted and always wanting to be alone.

[quote] JC’s solo album sold a total of 121,000 copies. He was never gonna have a big career. Some aren’t solo acts.

JC's album flopped because he went for an '80s sound with an "I'm a sex maniac who can't get enough pussy" theme. If he had released an album with songs more in keeping with his NSync style and image, he might have been able to have a mildly successful solo career, at least for a few years.

He wouldn’t have r195. Nick Carter released a good pop album that FLOPPED. Same for Jordan Knight (and his lead single went Platinum!!!!)

Kelly Rowland had a couple of minor hits from her solo album plus a smash hit with that Nelly song and her album still tanked.

Some have it. Some don’t. Not everyone is meant to be solo. JC doesn’t have the looks to be a solo pop star anyway. Never did. JT did.

JT was always pushed as “the hot one”, as well as the baby (he was like 16 when they broke out here) and the one girls loved most.

It was pretty obvious that the label was pushing Timberlake as a solo artist so he got the best producers, JC not so much.

It’s all about money. They knew who would make them more money. JT was also a lot younger. He was like 19 when his solo album dropped. JC was already late 20s. People forget the rest were older than JT

[quote]JT and Beyoncé are rare.

They are?

R200 based on all the failed solo’s vs successful, yes, it is still rare.

Okay.

The American Music Awards performance of NKOTBBSB

I used to be in love with Jordan. So hot when he was young.

r204 so pretty

R205 yes. He was. And still looks good.

His solo career flopped because he has no personality.

But he is hot

What is the gay brother up to these days? Did he get married to the Latino bf?

More likely he was being groomed to be a producer’s cumdump

R209 he is married I believe and they live a peaceful life together. Very cute couple. They did The Amazing Race together I believe.

He’s also very very close friends with Kirstie Alley.

Jeff Timmons from 98 Degrees could've had a very successful gay porn career had he not wasted his time being an extra in 98 Degrees. Same goes for Kevin Richardson from BSB, though he looked very similar to Eric Hanson.

Yes, because making millions as an extra in a superstar boy band is worse than gay porn.

I’m sure gay porn would pay them so much more...

There was an article i read in some tabloid back in the day it was about Jordan (not Jon) who wanted to be/desired to be a woman and his therapist was encouraging him to expressed himself starting with the 2 earings in each ear, fashion ect ...the guys were furious about it especially Donnie because Jordan was the talented one on that group. Anyone had that article?

[quote]What is the gay brother up to these days? Did he get married to the Latino bf?

I could be wrong, but I think they’re just playing married (rings, using each other’s last names), but aren’t really. I say this because I never heard of them having a wedding or seen any pictures of their wedding and I’m pretty sure there would be pictures if they had married.

Nope they’re not married. See this update from last year.

I’d be damned if I was with someone for 12 years and I wasn’t married yet.

Here is the article the title is called “New kid wants a sex change”

Jordan sure was beautiful and a bit feminine back in the day.

[quote]But he is hot

He’s 50. He’s old.

R217 believes tabloids

Jordan didn’t have the ambition that Timberlake did for a solo career. Donnie and joe actively sought out acting roles and joe did musical theater. Jon had crippling anxiety but did well in real estate.

There used to be a show on vh1 called bands reunited and they tried to get the New Kids back together about 5 years before they actually did. Only Jon and Jordan agreed to it.

Jordan didn’t have the ambition that Timberlake did for a solo career. Donnie and joe actively sought out acting roles and joe did musical theater. Jon had crippling anxiety but did well in real estate.

There used to be a show on vh1 called bands reunited and they tried to get the New Kids back together about 5 years before they actually did. Only Jon and Jordan agreed to it.

He’s 50 years old but he can KICK STREECH AND KICK!!!!!!

"I’d be damned if I was with someone for 12 years and I wasn’t married yet."

According to the bf, they're trying not to rush things. Lol.

I though wearing commitment rings and calling your partner "husband" was cute when gay marriage was not legal and a possibility for gay couples. But I think it is just ridiculous now. Either get legally married and wear your husband's ring and name or just say you have a partner and fuck the rest. Maybe this is also about money and Jon doesn't want to share his estate or support his partner.

Since when does DL care about marriage? Does that piece of paper matter?

[quote] I meant at the time - no WHITE boy bands were charting on the Urban Charts. NKOTB and George Michael were getting urban charts and some of the black artists were pissed.

I dont recall NKOTB receiving airplay on black radio. When did that happen? Which songs? I think black audiences generally disdained them because they were created by the guy who produced New Edition and enjoyed greater commercial success than NE.

In the early days, George Michael was embraced by black music fans. His early songs were played on black radio as if he were a black artist. His videos were played on BET. That changed when his music became more white and gay ("Listen Without Prejudice")

R226 their market was to black audiences at first. The original “Please Dont Go Girl” Video even had them in a mostly black school with a “black” love interest. The sound of their first album was more R&B. It was with their second album they went more Bubblegum Pop.

They later redid the video to sell it to white girls.

The original video.

The revised video, now moved from the groups hometown of Boston, to Brooklyn, NY. And the video is less of a story and the girls in the video are now all ... WHITE.

^OMG how old is Joey in that video? It looks like a kindergartener is lusting after his teacher.

People forget Joey was younger than the rest of the group. He was only like 11 or 12 when he was found and placed in the group. He was also bullied by the rest of them and almost quit daily until they calmed down and let him know they’re just messing with him because they like him. His mother said he would come home crying daily because of the bullying.

The other 4 knew each other in real life and formed the group. There was originally a different 5th member that was later dropped by the creator of the band because he wanted someone younger and from a different background within Boston.

The other 4 are from poor areas of Boston, from poor families. Jordan said they would wear sneakers with holes in the bottom to school. Joey is from an Upper Middle Class area of Boston, and was not used to what the other 4 were, as he had not been exposed to what they had been.

Joey is only 47 now.

[quote]Jordan didn’t have the ambition that Timberlake did for a solo career.

He also had a baby during his brief comeback, which doesn’t help you keep a “sexy” image.

R224 Imagine being with someone for all those years, and if you break up, you walk away with not a cent. No way would that setup work for me. But if they’re OK with that, that’s all that matters. I just don’t understand the point of playing husbands but won’t make it official.

R204 r205 that’s a nice picture. Danny has a foundation in honor of his mother who died of breast cancer, he is very sweet and speaks of her so lovingly. She used to bake birthday cakes for all of the neighbor kids and he does it now.

Jordan turned 50 today...

Happy Birthday Asshole!

[quote]Was Jordan Knight of NKOTB being groomed to be the Justin Timberlake of that group?

If course he was because he was banging the boss.

Who was Justin Timberlake groomed to be?

[quote] Jordan turned 50 today...

That kinda blows my mind. I guess we'll be dead soon.

I see what you did there, R238.

He was a dreamboat in his youth

I always thought that Jordan was the only one with talent in the group. I remember all the girls going gaga over Joey McIntyre. Danny Wood was (and still is) the ugly one in the group.

Talking about Tommy Page. I wonder whatever happened to Nick Kamen?

Too old to be groomed.

R241 I knew girls who loved him but I do feel I knew more girls who liked Jordan and Donnie more. I usually assumed girls who liked Donnie liked guys that would get them in trouble.

People who have met Jordan say he's an arrogant asshole. Which kinda ruins his appeal.

Jordan and Joey were the only good-looking and talented ones in the group. Donnie had thuggish appeal I guess. Danny is unattractive. Jonathan looks way better now as he's tanned and mature.

Does his salami still have its casing?

He’s a white kid from Boston. I doubt he wouldn’t be circumcised

New Kids benefited a lot from their joint tour with Backstreet Boys as it made them relevant with younger millennials who now obsess over them too

[quote] everything about them is fake - their corny songs are written for them, produced for them, choreographed for them, and costumed for them

As opposed to whom, dear?

Agree with r250. That is the case for most pop stars

He was a beautiful young man. Since he was closeted, the added pressure for him to be a solo act (at a time when people were not as accepted of out gay men) must have been frightening.

If he has issues with sexuality and gender identity that could explain his douchebag behavior or he's just a narcissist.

Jordan doesn’t, Jonathan did. Jordan has been married and has kids. His brother finally came to terms with being gay.

Jordan talked about growing up in a working class mixed neighborhood in Boston. His family was a large Episcopal minster's family and his parents ran a foster home. One of his adopted brothers is black and he talked about growing up when there were racial tensions in Boston. His black brother got called the "n word" in the streets and it hurt Jordan very deeply. But what I don't get is why did Jordan and the rest of NKOTB never publicly condemned Mark Wahlberg's racist antics especially when you have Donnie who will always give credit to "New Edition" and talk about how he and the rest of New Kids admired black culture. Jordan was a b-boy, breakdancing on the subway and Donnie was a freestyle rapper. That said, New Edition seem cool with New Kids. Also Jordan doing a duet album with Nick Carter is weird, Nick has a raspy baby doll voice while Jordan has a deeper voice.

This duet is so weird. Sounds like a Robin Thicke/Justin Timberlake reject song. Nick can't sing. Who's idea was for these two to make a joint album? They aren't Toni and Babyface.

Nick Carter required lessons on how to sit on a stool. This is not a play on words. He didn't know how to sit on a stool, or how to get on or off one. He couldn't learn it in a day either. It took professional choreographers and coaching. He's a lucky bitch because he's one of the top 10 stupidest celebrities of all time. Zero talent. Sit Nick.

Nick and JT debut solo albums came out weeks apart. People though Nick would be JT’s biggest competition but he flopped so bad.

Only AJ and maybe Kevin had a bigger shot at solo success but neither seemed interested. Nick cannot sing well, or dance well, or has any soul in his singing. He has no fashion sense either. MTV did push his solo album but nobody wanted to hear an outdated sounding pop rock album with songs like "Miss America".

JT's debut had a strong R&B and hip-hop production courtesy of The Neptunes and many danceable tracks. JT could dance and had that cocky white boy swag, it was inevitable, he would outperform Nick.

Kevin? Are you serious? We had the thinnest voice of them all. The only thing he had going for him was he could be Eric Hanson's porn twin.

Kevin was good-looking and charming. JT also had a thin voice too but he still took off. It was the late 90s/early 2000s and J. Lo, Mandy and Britney were a thing too and Janet and Madonna still enjoyed success. So Kevin had a shot on his looks alone and could have relied on studio help.

Even if Kevin couldn't sing, AJ could. And both are much hotter than JT and Nick could ever dream to be.

AJ's got some dark demons. If one more repressed memory surfaces, he'll get a face tattoo. Lou Pearlman preferred blondes so maybe he was diddled by a family member.

Poor Aaron had so much faith his big brother would beat Timberlake in sales lol. The comments are funny. Even back then Aaron was a pathological liar. Also, I'm surprised Timberlake admitted to getting drunk before a performance.

New Edition was smart to get rid of Maurice Starr. Their music afterwards vastly improved. Johnny Gill added some more grown vocals. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were a major upgrade for production. Heart Break was one of the greatest R&B/New Jack Swing albums of all time. Bobby Brown's solo career was impressive and Don't Be Cruel is a classic.

New Kids stuck with Starr who kept writing bubblegum stuff that they were too old to be singing. A lot of their music didn't age well at all at all even for 1980s standards. They finally ditched Starr for Teddy Riley for their 1994 album Face The Music. Major upgrade in production but it was too late as their fans grew up and moved on.

I think it would have been hard for Jordan to go solo. New Kids were considered lame and derivative. Bobby Brown was able to break into solo because he had that cocky street appeal. Jordan was a meek church boy in comparison.

JT had the benefit of dating Britney, NSYNC being hot on the R&B charts and getting features.

[quote] He's a bit of a deplorable though.

Yeah, just a bit. Just remember "I'm Independent" in this context always means "I'm a moron". This is from his facebook

[quote] Hey everyone... I’m not a Republican, I’m not a DemocratI’m an Independent. Regardless of Trumps personality or what you or I think of him, I’ve always thought this was a political witch-hunt. An unethical act to try to take down an American President! It made me very angry to see the media spinning this story, lying, and trying to convince and brainwash the WHOLE WORLD that the president COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA to win the election, all to enhance their own political agenda and narrative. That is a seriously messed up and awful thing for our country!! That is why I am happy with this outcome because it is what I believed all along. Whether I am or I am not a Trump supporter doesn’t matter here! You would all be surprised of what my political views are. I will tell you this, they aren’t all Republican or all Democrat. They are INDEPENDENT!

He attacked CNN on Twitter too, defending some ignorant statement Trump said to an Asian American reporter.

[quote] To twist, distort and magnify everything into a racist story is racist, exploitative and devisive on the media’s part. Him saying “ask China” to a reporter who is Asian is not racist unless you are viewing everything through a racial lens. And they say Trump is devisive?!

I'm going to take my advice from someone who spells "divisive" wrong. He's one of us!!

Jordan should have gone to TV or movies in the 90s. He had a soap opera beauty to him when young. He would have to tone down that Boston accent though.

I would have thought Joey McIntyre would have had the big pop career. He had a brief time in the spotlight in 1999. He did a Disney concert with Britney Spears.

Since Justin Timberwimp was mercifully not even a blip on the collective consciousness of society back then, OP, I'd have to say no.

Bobby Brown would be a better comparison as NKOTB was the white New Edition. But Jordan wasn't as confident or cool as Bobby. Jordan was a shy church boy. Donnie was analogous to Bobby but his younger brother Mark eclipsed him. Technically Mark counts as a solo success since he was in NKOTB for a year before they released their debut album.

Jordan is a Trump defender???? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!

I think Jordan is just an asshole who likes to be contrarian. He was supportive of the Floyd protests

I went to see Chicago in NYC years ago when Kevin (the hottest out of all the boybands to come out since BSB hit the scene) was playing the Billy Flynn role, and he does have chops. They just don't give him enough time to shine in BSB. Here he is singing On Broadway...

Every boyband has a Bobby Brown. Donnie was NKOTB's Bobby, AJ was BSBs, and so on and so forth.

From 1988 to 1991. Bobby was a pretty big solo artist though and eclipsed New Edition. AJ's solo flopped and Donnie never tried. Bobby found the right producers who used him to propel the New Jack Swing sound.

R276 Kevin is a god. Why was the fuck was Nick more popular?

Wonder what Jonathan thinks of his Trump supporting brother.

I am curious of Jonathan's life story. His coming in terms with his sexuality and how his religious family took it. Did his band mates know of his sexuality when they were touring too? So many questions. Jon looked ghostly when young, always introverted and nervous now he looks happy and fulfilled with his partner and his skin is a tint of olive now he looks almost unrecognizable

He went from this

To this

And I wonder if Jordan was the first person Jon came out to. I feel being his brother he would have known anyway.

Back in March new kids and friends released a covid quarantine song

Which has a great video and is a really fun throwback song

I think Maurice Starr created NKOTB just to spite New Edition and prove his theory he could take a bunch of white boys have them sing black music and be successful. He was right but he never set them up for long-term success and likely never considered investing in solo careers. He wrote extemely commercial fluff songs and was stealing money from them. He didn't give a shit about them.

Sorry here's the link to "Houseparty" video worth a watch,

Made me love NEW KIDS all over again

They admitted at one of their cruise that the gang used to jerk off together except for Jon who would just peep at the door.

Weren't some of their songs popular in gay nightclubs like The Right Stuff (which btw sounds like Janet Jackson's You Can Be Mine)?

Step by Step also sounds like the Captain Planet theme song

Q and A answer to “Which new kid they would like to marry.”..Looks like Donnie admitted to have sex with Danny.

I remember reading about Jonathan's panic attacks some years ago. I wonder how much being a closeted pop star in one of the hottest pop acts of their day had to do with it?

Jordan couldn't carry a solo career. He has no it factor, artistry or distinctiveness to him. Even Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis who helped thr careers of Janet and later Usher couldn't help Jordan. Jordan should have been a model or actor really.

Jordan was the most talented and the lead singer of the group but he wasn’t ambitious enough and had no drive . Donnie who couldn’t carry a tune was the real leader behind the scenes.

I like that House Party vid.

[quote]Weren't some of their songs popular in gay nightclubs like The Right Stuff (which btw sounds like Janet Jackson's You Can Be Mine)?

Come to think of it, it sure does!

It’s hot that they jacked together. That’s a total whiteboy thing to do. New Edition would NEVER!

Remember Danny’s leaked J/O vid from a few years ago?

Jordan called out Kirk Cameron for his homophobia. He even implied that Kirk is a self-hating homo:

"Get right with yourself on the inside... Ya won't have to take the fight to the world.. #justsayin."

The Jacksons, NKOTB, Take That,, Westlife and Backstreet Boys are the few boy bands were majority of the members were attractive. The Beatles were never good-looking, The Osmonds were weird looking and NSYNC was especially ugly except JC and Joey. New Edition was pretty average looking except for Johnny Gill and Ralph Tresvant. One Direction only had one legitimately attractive member Zayn.

New Edition and Boyz II Men are the only ones who had music that adults loved to listen to. NKOTB had a lot of embarrassing songs that are cringe and extremely too 1980s. They needed better writers and it's not a shock they were so derided in their day that even MTV didn't pay them much attention. NE lucked out after firing Maurice because he would have ran them into the ground with his shitty songwriting and producing skills. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was a major set up as Heartbreak was one of the best 80s R&B albums and Johnny Gill's sexy vocals were much better than Bobby's non-singing. NKOTB's Face the Music however was an improvement to their 80s stuff but it flopped as their fame was over by 1994.

I think Backstreet's debut is very listenable as it was more R&B and they kinda sounded like a white Jodeci in some songs. However Millennium was more poppish and it probably alienated their black fans once they released Black and Blue. NSYNC were mostly singles artists but they had a lot of fun party songs and Celebrity was a strong pop album.

They were definitely influence by New Edition, Bobby Brown, Pebbles and Janet Jackson.

You Can Be Mine

Mercedes Boy by Pebbles.

Crucial by New Edition

Bobby Brown

Jordan could definitely dance better than Timberlake in his youth. He was a b-boy.

Jordan Knight could not have competed with Bobby Brown, Michael Jackson and George Michael. And when he tried to go solo in the late 90s past his prime, he could not compete with Usher, Maxwell or D'Angelo and you already had BSB, NSYNC and Eminem for the white boys copying black culture. Joey McIntyre is not an R&B singer at all, he is a Broadway/oldtime-y pop singer.

He was being groomed to give up his ass to producers but was a bit of a prude so his career fizzled.

Disney had their own Jordan Knight in the early 90s with Damon Pampolina. Frontman of The Party.

Wonder if Maurice Starr was like Ron Pearlman or Edgardo Diaz and was pervy towards New Edition and New Kids on the Block. He certainly stoled from both of them we know for sure.

This 1991 MTV interview with Jordan explains it all. He basically said he put the well-being of the group before his own. He wasn't interested in going solo and abandoning the others. He seemed protective especially of his brother Jonathan who I think he knew was gay. The interview cuts off when he talks about his black adopted brother being a victim of racist attacks in Boston and how it traumatized him.

Joey McIntyre had a Disney concert with Britney Spears. He admitted his love for her and wanted to beat up Timberlake for breaking her heart

If Joey managed to date Britney, he would have gotten a major career boost. They would have been a hot couple

This is the Disney Channel concert. Includes commercials and everything. Joey did a bigger push than Jordan probably because he was younger and sexier.

What's interesting is that Britney did sing live during her first album tour as shown in that Disney Concert video. She only began lip-syncing around her second album era. Joey did lipsync at one point once his voice began maturing but had to sing songs like "Please Don't Go Girl".

Donnie flirting with Jordan

Not a bad cover. Prince is a very hard artist to cover.

He also did a very good cover of The Delfonics. He is a way better singer than Bobby Brown, Justin Timberlake and Harry Styles that's for sure.

so gay and sooooo fine....we miss u bb

It's funny how Jonathan is more masculine and straight seeming than Jordan.

He married a masculine female version of him.

Twins!

GAY GAY GAY GAY

His wife looks a bit like non-binary bisexual Sara Ramirez.

I like his voice but his solo music is so bad. Give It To You was the highlight and so was his first album thanks to Jam & Lewis. Everything after was laughable. It really proves you need good songwriters and producers. Being a good singer isn't enough.

Maybe had he gone solo in say 1991 or 1992 and got the same producers as Bobby Brown and Toni Braxton like Babyface and Teddy Riley he probably would have been more successful.

he should be on OnlyFans if he had any sense.

I'd rather Joey McIntyre make the OnlyFans but Jordan could join him

Fashion icon. He rivaled Prince in the 80s with his interesting choices.

Jordan is gay.

Jordan is not gay but there was a tabloid were he always felt like a female trapped in a male body and he wanted to dress more feminine and Donnie who was the leader of the group went balistic because it would runied NKOTB and he blamed Jordan’s therapist for encouraging the idea.You can see a bit of it in their 1989 providence concert were he look a bit feminine.

Imagine if both Jordan AND Jonathan were gay...

Donnie and Danny are ugly.

I would love to see Jordan, Joey, Jon and Marky Mark go at it during their physical peaks.

Well they did admitted to several group jerk offs together except for Jon who peaked outside the door to watched them.

Jon supposedly "dated" fag hag Tiffany!

Jordan and NKOTB performing on The Mickey Mouse Club. What a cutie he was.

I wonder if NKOTB could have transitioned to an adult audience had they stayed together. Their last album was very smooth R&B music similar to Boyz II Men and Ki-Ci & Jojo. It was a natural evolution from the bubblegum new jack swing stuff they were doing in the late 80s/early 90s. I feel they would have been better received if they went down this route.

Joey has not aged well at all, despite being the youngest. Someone posted here that Joey sometimes hooks up with men.

And that story about NKOTB having a circle jerk? I heard the same thing about Take That too. Maybe it's some sort of urban legend in the boyband universe.

R339 Take That talked about having a group jerk in the back of the tour bus in their documentary. The goal was to see who could cum the quickest. Robbie won.