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Hillary Clinton - "This Is NOT OVER" Running In 2020

Clinton NOT going to think about a possible run until after the upcoming midterm elections.

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by Anonymousreply 155November 5, 2018 5:58 AM

But her emails!!

by Anonymousreply 1October 29, 2018 2:09 PM

Will the Baby Boomers ever leave the stage?

Let Generation X have a chance. Hopefully, she will lose the primary.

by Anonymousreply 2October 29, 2018 2:11 PM

No. We love you Hillz but please stay home.

by Anonymousreply 3October 29, 2018 2:11 PM

She answered the question about running "No", but people can't give up their obsession.

Yawn, keep beating that dead horse OP.

by Anonymousreply 4October 29, 2018 2:12 PM

No.

by Anonymousreply 5October 29, 2018 2:13 PM

She can do whatever she wants, but do you think she'd win a primary? I don't. The risk that Trump cannot be defeated is unacceptable and she lost to him once & it's too scary of a possibility.

by Anonymousreply 6October 29, 2018 2:15 PM

Republicans still can’t get over their boogeywoman obsession with her.

by Anonymousreply 7October 29, 2018 2:15 PM

Hillary was a horrible candidate in 2016, and the idea of her running again is laughable. Trump is an idiot, but he was holding several rallies a day and connected with the Deplorables. Meanwhile, Hillary hardly campaigned and basically ignored the midwest. However, if she'd chosen Corey Booker as her running mate, she'd be president right now. At any rate, the Dems need a much younger, charismatic, and high energy candidate.

by Anonymousreply 8October 29, 2018 2:15 PM

She was not a horrible candidate, r8/ Bernie Bro. She WON the popular vote, and would have probably won the electoral college too, were it not for Russian meddling.

by Anonymousreply 9October 29, 2018 2:20 PM

GO AWAY, HILLARY.

by Anonymousreply 10October 29, 2018 2:20 PM

[quote] She answered the question about running "No", but people can't give up their obsession. Yawn, keep beating that dead horse OP.

That is NOT what she said. What she said was, she doesn't want to run for president HOWEVER she does want to be president.

It would be the same as I DON'T want to see the dentist, but everyone has to go for yearly check-up. You don't want to do something (go through the process) but you have to, to achieve the end result.

by Anonymousreply 11October 29, 2018 2:21 PM

R9 LOL!!! You're a riot!

R8 is right. You're an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 12October 29, 2018 2:27 PM

R9: He said NOTHING about Sanders. You people need to get over your psycho-sexual obsession with that man. It's ruining your lives. It's certainly ruining thread like this.

by Anonymousreply 13October 29, 2018 2:28 PM

R9 She won the pop vote because of California. She lost in the electoral college, because she didn't get enough states. Jesus, take a civics course!

by Anonymousreply 14October 29, 2018 2:28 PM

Hilary, I love you, but you have too much baggage, namely your husband who is charming, but in many ways, a liberal version of trump...when it comes to women anyway.

by Anonymousreply 15October 29, 2018 2:31 PM

I don't want her to run, but it is almost orgasmic to think about 2020 being a rematch of 2016, with Trumpsterism being driven from office and repudiated on a national level, and all at the hands of their worst foe: that uppity bitch, Email Benghazi, whose campaign slogan is simply "Lock him up." Lo, the wailing and gnashing of Republican teeth. The salty sweet tears of Deplorables. Vladimir Putin defenstrating himself in grief, clutching a framed glossy 8x10 of The Donald. Hair Furher getting frog marched straight to the guillotine, Chelsea Clinton wearing an "I don't care, do u?" jacket. The Trump empire broken up after money laundering is exposed, the buildings sold to Chinese interests. The Trump children cut off from the money and shunned by society, forced to compete for the minimum wage blue collar jobs befitting their skill and intelligence level.

by Anonymousreply 16October 29, 2018 2:32 PM

Of course she wants to be President, she has run for President twice that isn't news r11.

You are trying to create a story where there isn't one because you are obsessed with Hillary. She responded no, as she always has, she has repeated she isn't running for office again.

by Anonymousreply 17October 29, 2018 2:34 PM

Is she nuts? I voted for her but it is time for her to fade away. All this does is give fuel turnout for Republicans for the midterms. She had her chance. The Democratic Party needs to promote viable candidates that propel the party forward, not mire it in the past.

by Anonymousreply 18October 29, 2018 2:34 PM

[quote] she has repeated she isn't running for office again.

Then why did she say she is going to wait until AFTER the mid-terms to make a decision? If it is a NO, she wouldn't have said that.

by Anonymousreply 19October 29, 2018 2:36 PM

Doesn't that two-time loser have grandchildren to dandle on her swollen knees???

by Anonymousreply 20October 29, 2018 2:37 PM

Usually, after a candidate runs for president twice and loses twice, they don't run again.

by Anonymousreply 21October 29, 2018 2:37 PM

This is bullshit nonsense intended to rile conservatives up to vote in the midterms. Clinton is not running again.

by Anonymousreply 22October 29, 2018 2:40 PM

R9 Can you explain why Hilary didn't campaign in states like Wisconsin?

R21 Until now, Hilary will make history in whatever way she can.

by Anonymousreply 23October 29, 2018 2:41 PM

I don’t think she was a “horrible candidate” per se, but I do think she, her people ran a horrible campaign.

Yes, she got 3 million more votes - so what? First of all, those votes were all in states that were safely Blue - she and her campaign failed in getting those few hundred thousand votes in the states where it would have mattered. Second, we do not elect the President by popular vote; the Electoral College casts the votes based on states won to determine which candidate hits the magic number first. This is basic civics, and no, it’s not going to change. Why? The smaller states will never allow it because if it’s just a popular vote, candidates in theory just have to run up the votes in cities, on the coasts, and can ignore everywhere else.

I really don’t think HRC has any plans to run again and risk becoming the female Adlai Stevenson. But there is a part of me that thinks she gets a perverse joy out of all the speculation her potential run in 2020 gets.

by Anonymousreply 24October 29, 2018 2:49 PM

Lord Jesus not this again. The last thing this country needs is a replay of 2016.

She won the popular vote R8 because she was running against DONALD FUCKING TRUMP, an insane failed reality show host.

The fact that she ONLY won by 3 million votes is pretty damning. The decomposing body of Socks The Cat would have won by the same amount.

Similarly, she won the Democratic primary against a crotchety old Jewish socialist who should not even have been taken seriously as a candidate.

She lost to Trump because more people in the right states disliked her than disliked him.

Even factoring in Comey and the Russians, the election should have been hers in a runaway.

Whether that's justified or not, whether it's because GOP propaganda is working is besides the point. Yes, she's had a few brief periods where she was less unpopular, but since she was the wife of the governor of Arkansas, there's been something about her that people dislike. She knew that going in and did nothing to remedy it, ran an incredibly lazy, sloppy and out-of-touch campaign to the point where "It's Her Turn" was seriously considered as a slogan.

As the editorial boards of the New York Times and Washington Post have both pointed out this month, her continued high profile only energizes Trump and his base and for the good of the party she should keep to the sidelines.

She may indeed have gotten the short end of the stick for someone of her talents, but better to be noble and selfless than selfish.

If she does run, it will only undercut Harris or Booker or whoever is going to be the younger standard bearer for the party We need to unite to win in 2020 and Hillary's presence will only divide us, possibly fatally.

by Anonymousreply 25October 29, 2018 3:01 PM

BRAVO, R25,

by Anonymousreply 26October 29, 2018 3:10 PM

She would be a bigger disaster than Sanders. Nothing would energize Trump’s base more than Hillary running for President again.

by Anonymousreply 27October 29, 2018 3:16 PM

R8 Remember how she took the entire month of August off in 2016?

by Anonymousreply 28October 29, 2018 3:19 PM

OMG, woman. Get the hint! You will never be president. Go away! You hurt the Dems with this shit.

by Anonymousreply 29October 29, 2018 3:23 PM

She is a terrible campaigner who would make a great president. But the time has passed. Everybody needs to move on.

by Anonymousreply 30October 29, 2018 3:23 PM

R24 She also won the popular vote because she campaigned hard in the heavily Democratic California instead of going to Wisconsin.

by Anonymousreply 31October 29, 2018 3:23 PM

Agreed, R30.

There's no doubting her political acumen and her brilliance, but she's like Dorothy Z. when the Jeopardy people told her she couldn't be on the show even though she was the smartest one. She's not likeable enough to root for.

by Anonymousreply 32October 29, 2018 3:25 PM

OMG NO

by Anonymousreply 33October 29, 2018 3:26 PM

PREACH IT r25!

by Anonymousreply 34October 29, 2018 3:27 PM

I feel bad for her, she was obviously unwell during the campaign and it's not going to get easier.

by Anonymousreply 35October 29, 2018 3:30 PM

She says she's not running.

by Anonymousreply 36October 29, 2018 3:37 PM

[quote] She says she's not running.

She says she will make a definite decision after the mid-terms

by Anonymousreply 37October 29, 2018 3:39 PM

Jesus, this stupid shit has been posted multiple times on DL, and it's only so the trolls can trot out their old 2016 talking points, hoping it'll depress Dem voter turnout.

Enough. I'm sorry your precious Gab shut down but no one here is interested in your crap.

by Anonymousreply 38October 29, 2018 3:41 PM

She did not, r37.

She said there will be a lot of work for Democrats to do in 2021 if they win the White House. The interviewer asked what she was going to do, in reference to that work, and she said she didn't know and wasn't even going to think about it until the midterms.

It is a flat-out fucking lie that she said she wasn't going to decide about running until after the midterms. The Hill is lying.

Watch the clip yourself, it's only a minute long.

by Anonymousreply 39October 29, 2018 3:46 PM

[quote] She did not

Yes she did

She added that she's not going to think about a possible run until after the midterm elections next month.

by Anonymousreply 40October 29, 2018 3:50 PM

[quote]Jesus, this stupid shit has been posted multiple times on DL,

I was wondering if someone would point this out. It's like the 10th time this thread topic has been posted.

by Anonymousreply 41October 29, 2018 3:50 PM

Hillary said no, trolls.

by Anonymousreply 42October 29, 2018 3:52 PM

Straight outta Moscow, r41

by Anonymousreply 43October 29, 2018 3:52 PM

She needs to stop indulging her ego with this ambiguity talk. It rules up the republican base. She needs to go quiet until after the sixth.

by Anonymousreply 44October 29, 2018 3:52 PM

[bold] She was asked about the work she would potentially do in 2021 if Dems won the White House. In response, she said she wouldn't even think about it until after midterms. [/bold]

She did not say she was going to decide about running again after midterms.

Fuck you, and fuck The Hill for this clickbait nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 45October 29, 2018 3:53 PM

Well, no R28, nobody does... because she didn't "take the entire month of August off in 2016." What we do remember is that she worked through illness and exhaustion, performed spectacularly in the debates, and despite 30+ years of radical rightwing extremist press coverage that would have brought a lesser candidate (like Donald Trump) to tears, she pulled off the technical win by nearly 3 million votes.

And no, R24, it wasn't "those few hundred thousand votes in the states where it would have mattered;" it was 80,000 votes spread across three states that have been gerrymandered, lied to, and are controlled by the Republican apparatus (literally, they own the voting machines... I would ask "what could possibly go wrong?" but we know the answer and are seeing it once again in Texas as people vote for Beto and see their vote flipped for Cruz) so it wasn't exactly like Hillary stood on the corner and handed out MAGA hats.

I hate the historical revisionism that this topic engenders. The reason that she didn't campaign in the midwest was because the voting models predicted the outcome incorrectly. I know this because I had a friend who was working for the campaign in Wisconsin and was sent home to devote the resources elsewhere because they thought they had the state in the bag.

What they didn't poll and count on was that people in the midwest HATE the Clintons with the passion of a thousand suns. It's both perplexing and completely understandable at the same time, circling back to the rightwing lie machine that has told people in manufacturing and farming jobs that it was the Democrats' fault that their jobs were shipped overseas by Republican oligarchs squeezing every last dime of profit out of them, killing unions, and selling out the country for personal gain since Reagan opened the floodgates in the 80s to offshoring including the obscene tax incentives for killing American jobs. It's the Republicans' mastery of blaming Democrats for everything bad that they do, and the electorate being gullible enough to believe the lies. Hence, we have Scott Walker in Wisconsin, doing his best to destroy what was once a strong liberal state with good jobs and a bright future. This is what happens when you dumb down the educational system, stop teaching science, math, and in particular, civics, and instead bring religion and all of the gobbledygook that entails into the classrooms.

But let's give Hillary some credit where credit is due: she's not running. It's obvious. If she were, she would already have the financial apparatus set up and would be campaigning already. Just because she and Bill are earning some money giving speeches — their plan for the next year, not coincidentally cutting deeply into the time that she would be otherwise required to be raising money and setting the stage for another run — conflicts with this alternative reality where Hillary is the perpetual candidate and boogeyman.

And, let's not forget that Bernie's supporters have not gone anywhere, and are still, to this day, butthurt over the fact that their last-minute Democrat didn't manage to win the primaries. This encapsulates the Democrats' problems in a nutshell, stated eloquently by some pundit I'm too lazy to look up: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. Even when their candidate is literally a child molester, they line up to vote for him. Hillary deletes 30,000 emails about everything from her daughter's wedding to the Nigerian prince's latest scam, and the concern trolls line up to wonder why she would have done such a thing (right before deleting the hundreds of spam emails they get every day, because that's [italic]different[/italic]).

No, what she said in the Hill's quoted interview was that the next Democratic president is going to have a huge mess — the biggest, if you will — to clean up, whether it's in 2020 or, God forbid, 2024. But this is the way that it has been for the last 50 years; the Democrat hands over a thriving economy, (relative) worldwide peace, and stability so the Republicans can fuck it all up.

by Anonymousreply 46October 29, 2018 3:54 PM

Wow, she’s the Michelle Kwan of politics.

by Anonymousreply 47October 29, 2018 3:59 PM

Take a hint, ho. We ain't that into you!

by Anonymousreply 48October 29, 2018 4:00 PM

One thing that President Obama had on his side, IMO, was youth and vigor. His voice, presence and energy went a long way in getting people to like him and vote for him. Even in segregated Philadelphia, white people get behind him regardless of their overall opinion of blacks in general. It was his youth. The same with Bill Clinton too. And JFK.

by Anonymousreply 49October 29, 2018 4:03 PM

R45 when she talks about a possible run (her word) is she talking about a run to the grocery store?

by Anonymousreply 50October 29, 2018 4:04 PM

Thank you R26 and R34

All this "Hillary is thinking of running" started because Phillipe Reines made a comment to the effect that there's "not a zero percent chance" that she'll run.

People like Reines don't say things like that by accident or casually.

So he was definitely sending up a trial balloon to see how people reacted and if there was positive reaction she'd be setting up her campaign in a heartbeat.

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by Anonymousreply 51October 29, 2018 4:16 PM

Perhaps hold off on booking the Javits Center this time around, sister-friend.

by Anonymousreply 52October 29, 2018 4:20 PM

[quote]She won the pop vote because of California.

She won the popular vote because more people voted for her. 3 million more.

“California” is just code for queers and brown people, isn’t it? Alt-right TRASH.

by Anonymousreply 53October 29, 2018 4:21 PM

The 3 million was a pathetic number, given who her opponent was. She should've won in a landslide. And the 3 million weren't even spread out over the country. She was a disaster of a candidate. And of course, all the celeb starfucking didn't help matters either. The endless parties and photo ops with annoying celebs was such a tone-deaf move.

by Anonymousreply 54October 29, 2018 4:23 PM

A lot of Bernie Bros / Jill Stein supporters on this thread

by Anonymousreply 55October 29, 2018 4:23 PM

I know there are some Hillary supporters who believed she should have ran unopposed in the primaries, but Sanders ran and his run and support he garnered exposed weak links for Hillary to address. And while I understand why she shouldn't have picked Sanders as her running mate, she could have picked someone younger who could appeal to Sanders supporters. But instead she chose a dull DC insider like Kaine who held no appeal to the people who preferred Sanders. Combine that with little to no campaigning in the midwest and she was in trouble. Contrast this with Trump who had weaknesses with evangelicals because of his character. But Trump was smart to pick Pence as his running mate as Pence was the real deal as an evangelical religious right winger and signalled Trump would take them seriously in terms of implementing polices they wanted (and he has let them). Trump united his base with his VP choice; Hillary didn't. I think choice of running mate played a part in ultimately who won as Trump excited and enhanced his base while Hillary didn't.

by Anonymousreply 56October 29, 2018 4:40 PM

She was asked about the work she would potentially do in 2021 if Dems won the White House. In response, she said she wouldn't even think about it until after midterms.

She did not say she was going to decide about running again after midterms.

Fuck you, and fuck The Hill for this clickbait nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 57October 29, 2018 4:41 PM

I supported her and wanted her to win in 2016, but I think Clinton running in 2020 is a VERY bad idea.

by Anonymousreply 58October 29, 2018 4:43 PM

She was asked about the work she would potentially do in 2021 if Dems won the White House. In response, she said she wouldn't even think about it until after midterms.

She did not say she was going to decide about running again after midterms.

Fuck you, and fuck The Hill for this clickbait nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 59October 29, 2018 4:44 PM

[quote]I know there are some Hillary supporters who believed she should have ran unopposed in the primaries

Those people are undemocratic and should move to an absolute monarchy, rather than set the political agenda in the U.S. Why are you pandering to them?

by Anonymousreply 60October 29, 2018 4:45 PM

[quote] She was asked about the work she would potentially do in 2021 if Dems won the White House. In response, she said she wouldn't even think about it until after midterms.

She used the words "possible run" (her words) again was she talking about a run to the grocery store?

by Anonymousreply 61October 29, 2018 4:45 PM

r56 Sanders stayed in the primaries until the very end. He should have conceded much earlier (when it was clear he had no way to win) and backed Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 62October 29, 2018 4:46 PM

Yes, r61, she was talking about a run to the grocery store.

by Anonymousreply 63October 29, 2018 4:47 PM

Gee, r61, are those the only two possible options? I bet if you jiggle your head really hard you might come up with one or two others.

by Anonymousreply 64October 29, 2018 4:47 PM

The fact of the matter is this thread is mostly a bunch of assholes who hate Clinton talking to a bunch of Rightwingers who use Clinton hate to increase Republican votes.

by Anonymousreply 65October 29, 2018 4:50 PM

R64 so she was talking a run in the park?

by Anonymousreply 66October 29, 2018 4:50 PM

[quote]She won the pop vote because of California.

I don't even understand what this shit means. I keep seeing it and it's so meaningless. All it does is prove how stupid the electoral college is - an antiquated system which has allowed regressive, knuckle-dragging moochers to dictate the direction of this country

Does the fact that millions of people live in a particular state (a state that's a fucking global economy all on its own) somehow negate their vote? You want to know what's actually ridiculous? The fact that someone like me who lives in NYC -a city with a population greater than several red states combined- is beholden to those shit, red states that contribute less than nothing for the upkeep of the country. On the contrary, they TAKE my money. They control where MY money goes. The fact that a turtle-looking dickhead hick from a TAKER state with only a little more than half the population of NYC alone, controls the purse-strings, is what is actually despicable.

Republicans can't actually win in many places on the state level without gerrymandering. Pointing out that millions of people living in a state "had the nerve to vote" for Hillary, doesn't make your point, it only highlights the fascistic-leanings of the right-wing who don't believe in having an actual Democracy where it's one-person-one-vote.

by Anonymousreply 67October 29, 2018 4:50 PM

You can't possibly be that stupid, r66. So you must just be an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 68October 29, 2018 4:51 PM

R68 when she is talking about a RUN (her word) if you deniers insist her run is not for POTUS then what is she running for?

by Anonymousreply 69October 29, 2018 4:52 PM

I already had r68 blocked

by Anonymousreply 70October 29, 2018 4:54 PM

Fine, whoever's most popular with the public. As long as the DNC doesn't rig the primary in her favor again. Yes, fairness does actually still matter.

by Anonymousreply 71October 29, 2018 4:54 PM

[quote]She was asked about the work she would potentially do in 2021 if Dems won the White House. In response, she said she wouldn't even think about it until after midterms.

She is not going to do SHIT if a Dem wins the White House. She believes that Oval Office belongs to her, and she sure as fuck isn’t going to help someone else who beat her to it. Yes, she’s that much of a narcissist.

by Anonymousreply 72October 29, 2018 4:56 PM

R72, I'm not a huge Hillary fan. I frankly, don't like her, but she worked very hard for Obama after he beat her for the nomination and all of those bitter, Harriet Christian-type racist hags couldn't get over that she had lost. She worked her ass off to see him win.

by Anonymousreply 73October 29, 2018 4:59 PM

Gee, I don't know, r69... Senator? Governor? Speaker of the House? Are you really so limited in your thinking that these never crossed your mind?

And r70...though you can't see this...if you have me blocked its because you are a racist white supremacist because that's the only thread I posted on you could have taken offence. So congratulations.

by Anonymousreply 74October 29, 2018 5:05 PM

[quote]Does the fact that millions of people live in a particular state (a state that's a fucking global economy all on its own) somehow negate their vote? You want to know what's actually ridiculous? The fact that someone like me who lives in NYC -a city with a population greater than several red states combined- is beholden to those shit, red states that contribute less than nothing for the upkeep of the country. On the contrary, they TAKE my money. They control where MY money goes. The fact that a turtle-looking dickhead hick from a TAKER state with only a little more than half the population of NYC alone, controls the purse-strings, is what is actually despicable.

I also live in NYC (part-time) and I don't like it either, but the fact of the matter is that we're one nation and our money has to go to other states. We can't dictate to whom and to where our money goes when we live in a communal society.

by Anonymousreply 75October 29, 2018 5:06 PM

Brilliant post, R46.

Hillary fucking WON the election, Muscovites, Velesians and BernieBros.

by Anonymousreply 76October 29, 2018 5:08 PM

[quote] Gee, I don't know, Senator? Governor? Speaker of the House? Are you really so limited in your thinking that these never crossed your mind?

She has already been Senator (been there-done that Clinton has said about running for Senator again), and if she wanted to run for Governor, the primary is already over

So any other things she could run for, as she had already missed her chances running in the mid-terms?

by Anonymousreply 77October 29, 2018 5:09 PM

If you block the BernieBro and Putin-trolls, two-thirds of the thread disappears.

by Anonymousreply 78October 29, 2018 5:10 PM

[quote]We can't dictate to whom and to where our money goes when we live in a communal society.

When LA, TX and I forget the third state (a moocher one) needed disaster relief, NY, NJ and CT didn't hesitate to vote to give our money to those states. When Sandy hit NY/NJ/CT...LA, TX and that moocher state voted AGAINST us getting aid. Our own fucking money!

We're not communal. We're beholden to the political equivalent of an incel living in our basement who bitches about us all day and yet couldn't survive without our money.

by Anonymousreply 79October 29, 2018 5:10 PM

"......forced to compete for the minimum wage blue collar jobs befitting their skill and intelligence level."

It's this kind of classist arrogance that will continue to be the undoing of the democrats. 67% of the electorate live on minimum wage. and they have been shamed and silenced.

Good luck with getting them to vote for anyone who spits on them. Deplorable indeed.

by Anonymousreply 80October 29, 2018 5:11 PM

You are truly being stupid now, r77. The whole premise you are pushing is that Clinton will decide to run for something AFTER the midterms. Talking about her being too late to run for something BEFORE the midterms shows you are just pulling bullshit out of your ass.

by Anonymousreply 81October 29, 2018 5:11 PM

R54 You are exactly right. Middle America, hell, most of America doesn't give a flying fuck with celebrities think. Hillary's schmoozing with them did her no favors. All that money spent on that JLo concert, only for her to lose Florida. Instead of kissing celeb ass, she should have been out talking to regular people about their real life problems. I hate Trump passionately, but he was a better campaigner, and thus, won the election.

by Anonymousreply 82October 29, 2018 5:14 PM

R80, you're tiresome. You truly are. Those DEPLORABLES can't actually point to any Republican policy that benefits them. You seem to think it's simply appalling that people on an anonymous board go off about those people, yet the current president of the US winning over those same people by vilifying other minimum wage/working class people who *aren't white* is of no concern to you. Quelle surprise, another enabling "liberal" who ignores the actual suffering of working class people at the hands of a limo-riding/silver-spooned/racist-NYer who appeals to those other "working class" people.

Oh yes, we're the elitists, mot Trump who won them over by making them feel special based solely on their epidermis and nothing more.

by Anonymousreply 83October 29, 2018 5:17 PM

She was the most qualified person to ever have run for office and she would have made a great president. But she shouldn’t run again and I don’t think she will.

Unfortunately, 25+ years of Republican and media smears have worked on too many people for her to ever be elected, which is too bad for the American people.

I think the first woman POTUS will probably be a Republican, sadly. A female Democratic candidate would be attacked from both the left and the right, while the GOP will always (and Trump is living proof) close ranks around their candidate, whoever he or she may be.

by Anonymousreply 84October 29, 2018 5:17 PM

not*

by Anonymousreply 85October 29, 2018 5:18 PM

[quote]Middle America, hell, most of America doesn't give a flying fuck with celebrities think.

THEY. VOTED. FOR. ONE.

by Anonymousreply 86October 29, 2018 5:19 PM

R86 But Trump didn't have a string of celeb buddies speaking at the Republican convention. And he didn't canoodle with them. You know good and well he had the Deplorables convinced he was worth billions because of his business prowess, and they were too stupid to do their own research. Instead, they allowed Fox News to tell them what to think. Pftt

by Anonymousreply 87October 29, 2018 5:24 PM

[quote] But Trump didn't have a string of celeb buddies speaking at the Republican convention.

WHAT?

by Anonymousreply 88October 29, 2018 5:26 PM

Hideous fatass satanist sow.

by Anonymousreply 89October 29, 2018 5:55 PM

[quote] She was the most qualified person to ever have run for office

NOT EVEN CLOSE R84

Not sure where this lie got started. She was the most qualified person running in 2016. Period.

Within recent memory, George HW Bush, Al Gore, John Kerry and Bob Dole were far more "qualified" than she was, e.g. they had spent more time in Congress, had held various other positions (Bush was CIA chief, Ambassador to UN and to China), Gore and Bush had spent 8 years each as VP... in the scheme of things HRC is towards the middle of the poack in terms of "on paper" qualified candidates

by Anonymousreply 90October 29, 2018 6:00 PM

[quote][R86] But Trump didn't have a string of celeb buddies speaking at the Republican convention. And he didn't canoodle with them.

Only because he couldn't get them. His supporters are idiots specifically because they think Trump isn't into celebrity culture. He worships at the alter of celebrity culture. If his choices were between meeting a Hollywood celebrity or military vet, he'd meet the former every fucking time. He lives, breathes and eats celebrity culture. So when these idiots go off about Hillary and celebrities, they need to keep in mind that they voted for one who would rather be an Oscar party than lunch with them at Olive Garden.

by Anonymousreply 91October 29, 2018 6:04 PM

AT* an Oscar

by Anonymousreply 92October 29, 2018 6:04 PM

^^She had served one term as US Senator and one term as SOS.

You could argue that Bill, who had been governor of Arkansas for 11 years when he was elected, and had been Arkansas attorney general, was far more "qualified" as he'd run a government for 11 years.

by Anonymousreply 93October 29, 2018 6:04 PM

Who is going to get out the vaudeville hook for her? Thanks for your service, but it’s time to leave the stage, Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 94October 29, 2018 6:06 PM

I was so disappointed when she picked Tim Kaine as her running mate.

by Anonymousreply 95October 29, 2018 6:31 PM

I wasn't disappointed with Kaine until his debate with Pence.

by Anonymousreply 96October 29, 2018 6:40 PM
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by Anonymousreply 97October 29, 2018 8:12 PM

I guess trying to shift all your misogyny to Nancy Pelosi didn't work so the RNC has to resurrect Clinton-hate.

by Anonymousreply 98October 29, 2018 8:17 PM

She will never be elected. Time for her to start enjoying her retirement.

by Anonymousreply 99October 29, 2018 8:19 PM

Here is the thread back in 2016 Thread from 2016

Can Trump win Ohio, PA, FL and NC?

Trump campaign says if they win Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina. It's OVER for Clinton. They win

Does he have a shot at all of these states?

And EVERY SINGLE DLers laughed at the notion Trump could win those four states over Clinton - yet he swept them all.

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by Anonymousreply 100October 29, 2018 8:40 PM

She will only serve to keep the dolt in the WH if she runs.

by Anonymousreply 101October 29, 2018 8:51 PM

Troll thread.

Russia should be disconnected from the net

by Anonymousreply 102October 29, 2018 8:53 PM

R102 The fact that Dems love to stay in a little bubble and listen to no opposing ideas or arguments is the very reason Trump was elected. I'm not Russian or a troll, but I know that a large segment of America is tired of the elitist party the Democrats have become. It's all the very wealthy, celebrities, and people who work in academia. Keep covering your ears and screaming like a toddler. It accomplishes nothing. I live in the south and paid attention to what people in my community were saying. Trump was a form of backlash.

by Anonymousreply 103October 29, 2018 9:00 PM

Tell us all how the Democratic Party has become "elitist." We are dying to hear.

by Anonymousreply 104October 29, 2018 9:04 PM

SHE WILL RUN. SHE WILL WIN.

by Anonymousreply 105October 29, 2018 9:32 PM

[quote] Tell us all how the Democratic Party has become "elitist."

Outside the last Democratic convention all the garbage cans were filled with empty cups from Starbucks.

At the Republican Convention, they go to Dunkin Donuts

by Anonymousreply 106October 29, 2018 9:33 PM

Beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 107October 29, 2018 9:35 PM

That's the dumbest argument on this thread, r106. I hope you were making a joke.

by Anonymousreply 108October 29, 2018 11:09 PM

Says R108 who makes daily trips to his Starbucks for coffee. When was the last time you stepped into a Dunkin Donuts?

by Anonymousreply 109October 29, 2018 11:12 PM

Oh my god, you were serious. You are truly that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 110October 29, 2018 11:15 PM

R110 it is talk like that only reinforces in people minds that Progressives are elites. As you have never set foot in a Dunkin Donuts.

The comparison between Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts is a metaphor to contrast the differences Republicans and Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 111October 29, 2018 11:17 PM

Who keeps posting these stupid "Hillary Clinton Running in 2020" threads? Her political career is OVER. She and her hubby want to stay in the news but as a political candidate she is DONE.

by Anonymousreply 112October 29, 2018 11:22 PM

That you think Starbucks is an "elite" establishment says all anyone needs to know about you.

(And though I don't drink coffee, when I go to a coffee shop to meet someone I go to the most convenient one...probably just like the people at political conventions.)

by Anonymousreply 113October 29, 2018 11:22 PM

[quote]And EVERY SINGLE DLers laughed at the notion Trump could win those four states over Clinton

There were DLers at the time who clearly gave warning, especially about Pennsylvania, that Trump could win there and had better than a 50/50 chance of doing so. Granted they were laughed at. It seems like in 2018, DLers are now more willing to listen to those living in the battleground states to get the actual pulse of what's happening.

by Anonymousreply 114October 29, 2018 11:24 PM

After 2016, I don't trust polls like I used to.

by Anonymousreply 115October 29, 2018 11:25 PM

[quote] That you think Starbucks is an "elite" establishment says all anyone needs to know about you.

I don't think it is, it is how deplorables view it as a place where the "elites" go.

by Anonymousreply 116October 29, 2018 11:28 PM

R116 Precisely. Starbucks is for those uppity folks who can afford to spend 5-6 bucks on a single cup of coffee.

by Anonymousreply 117October 29, 2018 11:29 PM

No, they don't. Stop pretending you know shit about Trumpsters. My God.

by Anonymousreply 118October 29, 2018 11:32 PM

[quote]When was the last time you stepped into a Dunkin Donuts?

Lots of “elites” in Boston, New York, and Washington drink Dunkin Donuts.

by Anonymousreply 119October 29, 2018 11:32 PM

[quote] No, they don't. Stop pretending you know shit about Trumpsters. My God.

You are the one that is out of touch, with your head in the sand.

by Anonymousreply 120October 29, 2018 11:33 PM

Will the ticket be Clinton-Biden or Biden-Clinton? So many choices.

by Anonymousreply 121October 29, 2018 11:38 PM

[quote] You are the one that is out of touch, with your head in the sand.

Because you made some nonsensical claim you can't back up?

OK.

by Anonymousreply 122October 29, 2018 11:41 PM

[quote] Because you made some nonsensical claim you can't back up?

No because you were the same person who was convinced Trump couldn't beat Clinton

by Anonymousreply 123October 29, 2018 11:44 PM

Holy shit! First you know where I get my coffee (when I dont drink coffee). Now you know what I posted on a thread two years ago! You are amazing!

It must be so much easier to live in a world where what you believe to be true without any evidence is certainly true.

by Anonymousreply 124October 29, 2018 11:47 PM

R124 you are the one that was convinced Trump couldn't beat Clinton, not me

by Anonymousreply 125October 29, 2018 11:49 PM

You have no idea who i am or what I was or was not convinced of.

by Anonymousreply 126October 29, 2018 11:50 PM

R126 you protest too much, methinks

by Anonymousreply 127October 29, 2018 11:51 PM

Tell me what I am wearing, r127!!!!

by Anonymousreply 128October 29, 2018 11:53 PM

Elitist = educated, open-minded and not kowtowing to bigots and racists.

I mean it can't possibly mean anything else, right? What else could it mean since they worship a wealthy, born-on-third, never worked a min. wage job, handed tens of millions from his parents, lived in a literal golden apt, limos, private planes, fucks over working people, private membership country club. The worst stereotype of a NYer and all of those poor, (white) working people in "real 'murcah" gravitated to him like flies to shit. Gee, I wonder what it was about him that appealed to them since his entire life exemplifies "elitism." Whatever could it have been...?

by Anonymousreply 129October 29, 2018 11:54 PM

[quote] Tell me what I am wearing

Something with a brand name

by Anonymousreply 130October 29, 2018 11:55 PM

The Starbucks guy is wearing a Polo shirt with J. Crew khakis and Sperry Topsiders. He has gel in his expensively coiffed hair.

The Dunkin guy is wearing a sweat-stained Iron Maiden t-shirt with holes, jeans from Walmart that barely fit over his size 42 belly and flip flops. And he's pretty much bald.

Now that we've got the ridiculous stereotypes out of the way, an you both just agree to disagree and leave the thread alone!!!

by Anonymousreply 131October 30, 2018 12:00 AM

Starbucks is absolute shit-tasting coffee.

by Anonymousreply 132October 30, 2018 12:04 AM

[quote]Will the ticket be Clinton-Biden or Biden-Clinton? So many choices.

The ticket will be strictly Lose-Lose either way.

by Anonymousreply 133October 30, 2018 12:04 AM

I believe it's just called Dunkin' now. Donuts need not apply.

by Anonymousreply 134October 30, 2018 12:05 AM

Here in Fairfield County everybody goes to Dunkin Donuts, no matter what their socioeconomic class is.

by Anonymousreply 135October 30, 2018 12:32 AM

Terry McAuliffe, a long-time Clinton hand, says she'll never appear on a ballot again. I don't think he'd say that if he had any doubt about the matter.

by Anonymousreply 136October 30, 2018 1:03 AM

LOL R136

That may be wishful thinking on McAuliffe's part as he himself has launched a trial balloon for 2020

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by Anonymousreply 137October 30, 2018 1:09 AM

R137, McAuliffe's not going to play the Marco Rubio role to the Clintons's Jeb Bush. He would not run if Hillary was getting in.

by Anonymousreply 138October 30, 2018 1:12 AM

The Russians hacked Robby Mook's smart dildo. Important visits to FL, WI and PA were canceled.

by Anonymousreply 139October 30, 2018 1:15 AM

Raising "Campaign" Funds

by Anonymousreply 140October 30, 2018 1:20 AM

[quote]The Russians hacked Robby Mook's smart dildo. Important visits to FL, WI and PA were canceled.

Robby Mook wasn’t interested in any hot Midwestern cock. Fool.

by Anonymousreply 141October 30, 2018 1:20 AM

her ego know no bounds. I dont think she would win the primary but who knows what kind of control she still exerts with the democratic hierarcy? As horrible as trump is, she couldnt beat him in a national election in 2020 if she somehow got there and i doubt the country or world would survive 4 more years of trump. This is how urgently bad this decision of hers would be.

Im sure her thinking is,,,,,,see public trump is terrible, now make up for your terrible injustice and install me with my rightful crown. Her husband has some political instinct surely he must know what a disastor another run for her would be and for the country. Altho I suspect he is fast heading to some possible dementia issues.

by Anonymousreply 142October 30, 2018 1:23 AM

Right. Which is why he is not officially running yet R138. Just testing. And hoping that she stays put and that the Clintons put the power of their network to work for him.

by Anonymousreply 143October 30, 2018 1:25 AM

She's not "deciding after the midterms whether she'll run."

That was established 10 hours ago. Why are you still on this thread?

by Anonymousreply 144October 30, 2018 1:41 AM

Terry McCauliffe doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.

by Anonymousreply 145October 30, 2018 2:02 AM

I have never met a more obvious Russian troll than R142.

by Anonymousreply 146November 4, 2018 3:50 PM

If she runs again that just will energize the Republicans even more. It would be the best thing that could happen to them in the next election cycle. I’m beginning to think it’s all a big conspiracy and she’s part of it, to actually KEEP them in power.

by Anonymousreply 147November 4, 2018 3:55 PM

"I’m beginning to think it’s all a big conspiracy and she’s part of it, to actually KEEP them in power."

Unlike Sanders and Nader, who actually did exactly that, Clinton genuinely cares about the country.

by Anonymousreply 148November 4, 2018 3:56 PM

She's not running. This is being kept alive by people who need someone to hate, which is really just pathetic.

by Anonymousreply 149November 4, 2018 3:56 PM

Time for a borscht break, Boris!

by Anonymousreply 150November 4, 2018 4:45 PM

R78 If you block the "Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million," Data Lounge seems much smarter.

by Anonymousreply 151November 4, 2018 5:17 PM

"Terry McCauliffe doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell."

I'm sure a lot of people said the same thing about Donald Trump.

by Anonymousreply 152November 4, 2018 10:08 PM

I still say if Biden and/or Sanders runs, she will too. If they both sit it out, then I don't think she will run.

by Anonymousreply 153November 4, 2018 10:12 PM

IF Democrats sweep the midterms, IF Mueller concludes his investigation very soon and recommends impeachment, IF Trump somehow got impeached or found guilty of criminal misconduct, I could mayyyybe see Hillary throwing her hat in the ring for 2020, Mayyybe getting the nomination under those circumstances, And maayyyyybe having a shot against the likes of Mike Pence.

But it's not so likely!

by Anonymousreply 154November 5, 2018 5:32 AM

She said that she will decide after the midterms which Democrat she will SUPPORT for the presidency.

by Anonymousreply 155November 5, 2018 5:58 AM
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