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Geraldine Page

"The greatest actress in English language" or the hammiest ham who ever ham'd?!

I think she was a bit of both. She reminds me a lot of La Streep in that regard - she was always totally mannered onscreen but still very fascinating and compelling to watch. I still hate her for stealing Whoopi's Oscar, though.

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by Anonymousreply 82March 27, 2021 10:15 PM

Which Oscar was that, the Color Purple?

by Anonymousreply 1October 18, 2018 12:50 AM

We've talked about here here many times....

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by Anonymousreply 2October 18, 2018 12:54 AM

The hammiest.

She is the Thelma Ritter for snobs with an equally unappealing voice.

She looked like a dog playing opposite Paul Newman in 'Sweet Bird'.

Anyone who appeared in that appalling Ingmar Bergman pastiche called 'Interiors' deserves out utter opprobrium.

by Anonymousreply 3October 18, 2018 12:54 AM

Didn’t she beat out Streep in Out of Africa that year?

by Anonymousreply 4October 18, 2018 12:57 AM

Page and Sandy Dennis were extraordinary on stage. You couldn't take your eyes off them.

by Anonymousreply 5October 18, 2018 12:57 AM

I loved her in "Dear Heart" and tweet years later in "Trip to Bountiful"

by Anonymousreply 6October 18, 2018 1:00 AM

Way to theatrical for my taste. But I imagine she must have been fascinating to watch on Broadway. Did she ever win any Tonys?

R3 I thought Maureen Stapleton was fucking amazing in that one.

by Anonymousreply 7October 18, 2018 1:01 AM

R7, Geraldine Page and Kim Stanley are among the legendary stage actresses who never won a Tony.

With Page, it's especially strange because she won an Oscar and Emmys despite being most known for her stage work. You would think the Tony would have been the first thing she won, but she went 0-4. She passed away about a week after her loss for 'Blithe Spirit.'

by Anonymousreply 8October 18, 2018 1:07 AM

[quote] Did she ever win any Tonys?

4 nominations, 0 wins. In 1960, when she was nominated for Sweet Bird of Youth, Anne Bancroft won for The Miracle Worker. Anne also won an Oscar two years later, when they were both nominated for the same roles.

by Anonymousreply 9October 18, 2018 1:08 AM

R3, Bergman, Interiors? No dude, Woody Allen. So much for opprobrium.

by Anonymousreply 10October 18, 2018 1:49 AM

I was quite young when I saw a TV version of Truman Capote's short story"A Christmas Memory." I had already read the story and was so touched by Geraldine Page's performance . She won an Emmy for that role.

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by Anonymousreply 11October 18, 2018 1:56 AM

She was doing Blithe Spirit at the time of her death. Didn't show up for Saturday matinee and stage manager sent someone over to her apartment. Found her dead. Heart attack. Sad that she was only missed because she didn't show up for work.

by Anonymousreply 12October 18, 2018 1:57 AM

She was very good as the maniacal serial killer in What Ever Happened to Aunt Alice.

by Anonymousreply 13October 18, 2018 2:06 AM

Geraldine earned that Oscar for TTB and all of her years of wonderful work. Whoopi won for Ghost so stop whining op.

by Anonymousreply 14October 18, 2018 2:09 AM

R10 He wrote "Bergman pastiche".

by Anonymousreply 15October 18, 2018 2:11 AM

Between the stagey material and her mannered performance, "Trip to Bountiful" is unwatchable as a film--sentimental slush. Much better on Broadway with Cicely Tyson.

I think of her as being part of a cohort of actresses who were considered prestige players when they did something on tv or in film because of their stage reputations--Julie Harris was another, although I think she was better in her non-stage roles than Page.

by Anonymousreply 16October 18, 2018 2:22 AM

r3 is a VULGARIAN!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 17October 18, 2018 2:22 AM

Much more mannered than Streep. Not a technical actress like Streep.

by Anonymousreply 18October 18, 2018 2:24 AM

Brick house on the right is the Chelsea townhouse where she was found dead as a doornail. Looks like a nice street.

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by Anonymousreply 19October 18, 2018 2:29 AM

She was great in Sweet Bird of Youth with Paul Newman

by Anonymousreply 20October 18, 2018 2:37 AM

Whoopi gave a more nuanced performance in The Color Purple over her performance in Ghost. So you shut the fuck up, r14.

by Anonymousreply 21October 18, 2018 2:47 AM

She unfortunately will be forever linked with F. Murray Abraham’s nauseatingly pretentious obsequiousness when presenting her with the Oscar. Half the Academy is still vomiting from his appalling display of faux humility.

by Anonymousreply 22October 18, 2018 2:51 AM

I know I am.

by Anonymousreply 23October 18, 2018 2:54 AM

Yes you are a ham R23 but at least you could share your roles around to the other old ladies such as Chupa-Chupa-cheeked Geraldine Page

by Anonymousreply 24October 18, 2018 2:58 AM

There's another thread here which says the great Vanessa Redgrave is "The greatest actress in English language".

Vanessa is genuine English.

This American woman named Page is a vulgarian compared to Vanessa!

by Anonymousreply 25October 18, 2018 3:03 AM

There’s a Whoopi-losing-the -Oscar troll here today, I see.

by Anonymousreply 26October 18, 2018 3:05 AM

There were more tics in her performance in THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL than at an orgy full of people with Tourette’s.

by Anonymousreply 27October 18, 2018 3:06 AM

Geraldine was a goddess, in any role she appeared in. Incapable of giving a bad performance, no matter how bad the movie was otherwise. She came close to saving the the unintentional comedy "I'm Dancing As Fast As Fast As I Can" for example. All praise to the great Geraldine Page!!!!

by Anonymousreply 28October 18, 2018 3:10 AM

Joan Crawford steamrolls Geraldine Page into letting her accept her Oscar should she win.

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by Anonymousreply 29October 18, 2018 3:15 AM

I think people are being a bit too harsh on poor F. Murray - he was just having a major fanboy moment there. It was super cringe-worthy, but he didn't mean anything bad.

One week after he won his Amadeus Oscar, and when he could probably snag any film role he wanted to, he instead decided to join the Mirror Repertory Company, only so he could work with Geraldine. He was probably still under her spell when he had to hand her that Oscar a few months later. There was something about her that made all of her co-workers go crazy for her. James Dean also had a major diva-worshipping thing going on with her.

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by Anonymousreply 30October 18, 2018 3:30 AM

Dear R30 you couldn't have chosen a more unflattering picture of either of them!

by Anonymousreply 31October 18, 2018 3:32 AM

R31 That's from a production of "The Madwoman of Chaillot" - they're supposed to look scary.

by Anonymousreply 32October 18, 2018 3:43 AM

R30, isn't that Exene with John Doe?

by Anonymousreply 33October 18, 2018 3:45 AM

R32 The characters in "The Madwoman of Chaillot" are supposed to be sympathetic.

Girardoux wanted them to be innocent, honest and naive characters in a modern, venal world.

Looks like hammy Geraldine wanted another excuse to go all Grand Guignol and chew the scenery.

by Anonymousreply 34October 18, 2018 3:51 AM

The wonderful Martita Hunt starred in the 1948 production of 'The Madwoman of Chaillot'.

She won the New York prize for Best Actress in the role and, I think, Marlon Brando got Best Actor for 'Streetcar'.

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by Anonymousreply 35October 18, 2018 4:02 AM

The scene in Pope of Greenwich Village that OP posted a photo of is one of my favorite movie scenes ever. She was the grieving Irish Catholic mother talking to the cops about her dead son. Brilliant! If you have never seen that movie you have to find it and watch it immediately. Do not deny yourself the chance to see some brilliant acting. Eric Roberts, Mickey Rourke, Darryl Hannah, and some amazing acting. Funny too.

by Anonymousreply 36October 18, 2018 4:04 AM

[quote] Between the stagey material and her mannered performance, "Trip to Bountiful" is unwatchable as a film--sentimental slush. Much better on Broadway with Cicely Tyson.

I much prefer the porn version, "The Trip to Plentiful" starring Jeff Stryker.

by Anonymousreply 37October 18, 2018 4:05 AM

Geraldine Page blew me away in Trip to Bountiful. One of the greatest screen performances I’ve ever seen. Saw her onstage in Agnes of God. She was simply extraordinary.

by Anonymousreply 38October 18, 2018 4:08 AM

Page on George C Scott: "Great actor, alcoholic, wife beater. What else do you want to know?"

by Anonymousreply 39October 18, 2018 4:12 AM

R21 fuck you cunt. Try making me shut up. Whoopi is not a quarter the actress Geraldine is , troll.

by Anonymousreply 40October 18, 2018 4:17 AM

Was ^^^

by Anonymousreply 41October 18, 2018 4:18 AM

Whoopi = Fart.

by Anonymousreply 42October 18, 2018 4:18 AM

I loved her in "The Beguiled". Bit of trivia: Elizabeth Hartman, who also starred in "The Beguiled" died in June of 1987, the same as Page.

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by Anonymousreply 43October 18, 2018 4:19 AM

Page won an Oscar nomination for this scene alone from Pete N Tillie. Note Carol Burnett starting using the climax of the scene as her own.

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by Anonymousreply 44October 18, 2018 4:26 AM

R44 As her own what?

by Anonymousreply 45October 18, 2018 4:28 AM

R45, her own schtick.

by Anonymousreply 46October 18, 2018 4:33 AM

Woody Allen wrote a great part for her in "Interiors."

by Anonymousreply 47October 18, 2018 4:52 AM

R47 No American family is as blind as the characters in that ridiculous grovelling homage "Interiors ".

Ingmar Bergman laughed at it. He thought it was meant as a joke.

by Anonymousreply 48October 18, 2018 4:56 AM

OMG, I love this scene!!! I don't care if she's hammy. It works. She is fabulous!

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by Anonymousreply 49October 18, 2018 8:17 PM

There's a painful clip on Youtube of her trying to sing a duet with the late Gladys Cooper.

by Anonymousreply 50October 18, 2018 9:18 PM

R29 Is that a factionalized account? It seems implausible.

by Anonymousreply 51October 22, 2018 1:31 AM

R44 Pete N Tillie was one of her more unnecessary Oscar nominations. That and You’re A Big Boy Now.

by Anonymousreply 52October 22, 2018 1:36 AM

Man, Interiors was a pretentious, affected slog. Maureen Stapleton's character was the vulgar interloper, but she was the only good thing in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 53October 22, 2018 1:44 AM

I did really like her in movie, The Trip To Bountiful. She is compelling to watch.

by Anonymousreply 54October 22, 2018 1:50 AM

Sweet Bird Of Youth was shown recently, and she plays a man using drunk to the hilt.

by Anonymousreply 55October 22, 2018 1:53 AM

R29 Joan accepted the Oscar on behalf of Anne Bancroft, not Page.

by Anonymousreply 56October 22, 2018 5:00 AM

Her husband, the great Rip Torn, is still with us.

by Anonymousreply 57October 22, 2018 5:23 AM

they had a very strange marriage. Torn had a baby with actress Amy Wright during the marriage.

by Anonymousreply 58October 22, 2018 6:01 AM

yes r56 we know. Maybe you should reread the post or watch Feud.

by Anonymousreply 59October 22, 2018 6:01 AM

She was Sissy Spacek's cousin.

by Anonymousreply 60October 22, 2018 6:03 AM

I think Torn is Spacek's cousin.

by Anonymousreply 61October 22, 2018 6:04 AM

Hondo happened to be on TV this weekend. It's hard to believe she was 28 when that film was made - that's one rough looking 20-something.

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by Anonymousreply 62October 22, 2018 6:13 AM

The topper to F's comment about Geraldine is Anne Bancroft's eye roll reaction.

by Anonymousreply 63October 22, 2018 6:14 AM

I don't think Bancroft rolls her eyes negatively. I think she is just confused as to what is going on and glances at the monitor. Whoopi is too happy. She's overcompensating. Jess is cool is ice and figures out who won and says it to Sam. (Geraldine had just done or was still doing his play A Lie of the Mind.) My skin looks luminous. Very peaches and cream.

Funny who Bancroft was nominated for a role Page created on Broadway.

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by Anonymousreply 64October 22, 2018 6:27 AM

Whoopi said on the View that she only saw the Trip to Bountiful recently. (like within the last 5 years or so.)

I guess it was painful for her. I would have thought she'd be curious to see what beat her. (and Whoopi is a movie fan, I used to work in a video store she frequented. She rented a lot and was a big fan and would get quite excited when classics would be released finally.)

by Anonymousreply 65October 22, 2018 6:31 AM

I played in African this year. My native heritage.

by Anonymousreply 66October 23, 2018 4:13 AM

I always loved her.

by Anonymousreply 67October 23, 2018 4:15 AM

[quote]I think Torn is Spacek's cousin.

It's Rip Taylor who is Spacek's cousin.

by Anonymousreply 68October 24, 2018 1:20 AM

Anne Bancroft may have been nominated for a role Geraldine Page originated, but I wonder how Lillian Gish felt about someone else winning an Oscar for a role she originated.

by Anonymousreply 69October 24, 2018 4:18 AM

Does the 1953 TV version with Gish, Eva Marie Saint and Eileen Heckart still exist? Has anyone seen it?

by Anonymousreply 70October 24, 2018 5:47 AM

R70 It has been shown at MOMA, but I haven't seen it.

by Anonymousreply 71October 24, 2018 5:52 AM

Geraldine was fantastic. One of my faves along with Sandy Dennis, Kim Stanley, Tuesday Weld, Meryl Streep and, of course, Jessica Lange.

by Anonymousreply 72October 24, 2018 5:58 AM

[quote]I still hate her for stealing Whoopi's Oscar, though.

Oh, DEAR, no.

by Anonymousreply 73October 24, 2018 6:08 AM

I saw Page on Broadway in "Agnes of God" where she was freaking brilliant, also in her final role in "Blithe Spirit" where she was an incredibly scene-stealing ham, but the role is written that way. Angela Lansbury was also shameless in her Tony-winning performance of Madame Arcati a few years ago.

At Mirror Repertory Company Off-Broadway Page was at her very peak in Clifford Odets' "Paradise Lost" opposite the then unknown Steven Weber, who held his own opposite Gerry, and launched his career (where is he now?) At Mirror Rep Page also SHAMELESSLY played a small role as the Polynesian Servant Girl in W. Somerset Maugham's "Rain" in "light Egyptian" make-up. She got huge laughs as her leading lady Sabra Jones was a lousy actress, and Geraldine just decided her nothing role was comic relief. She NEVER would get away with it today, of course!

by Anonymousreply 74October 24, 2018 6:28 AM

Much like her sisters in tic-acting (Kim Stanley, Sandy Dennis, Jess Lange, sometimes Lee Grant), I think she fluctuates between fascinatingly brilliant work, and hysterical forced hamming. I can think of so many of her performances that would be better if she just kept her fucking hands still. Did Lee Strasberg give them this constant need to be fidgeting? Fidgeting with your fingers is not acting!! I've never seen any of them on stage but i'm assuming it works better in that context. She still does have some impressive screen performances, and I actually liked her in 'I'm Dancing As Fast As I Can', still a manic performance but it felt less 'acted' and more 'felt'.

by Anonymousreply 75October 24, 2018 6:51 AM

R76 Based on your definition of "tics", Meryl should be on your list...

by Anonymousreply 76October 24, 2018 7:04 AM

[quote]Did Lee Strasberg give them this constant need to be fidgeting?

Right? Uta Hagen, a very affected actress, was like this too. She was incredibly distracting onstage, as she was always TOUCHING EVERYTHING, obviously looking to endow each gewgaw with her "sense memory", and "substitution" folderol.

I'm an actor and after hundreds of classes and drama school I can report all that Method/Meisner/Stanislavski stuff is embarrassingly outdated crapola! If there were famous talented actors who studied, I have to say they would have been talented and famous WITHOUT IT!

by Anonymousreply 77October 24, 2018 7:05 AM

This fidgeting it meant to show Realism, as opposed to Just Stand There and Speak. Joanne Woodward is another one who does it. That and over-gesturing though Woodward added a bizarre mouth twisting to her repertoire. Sandy Dennis was most famous for a pointing mannerism which I believe she picked up from Eileen Heckart. But Page is the most irritating exponent of the Method fidgets.

by Anonymousreply 78October 24, 2018 8:07 AM

I love the fidgeting, goddammit!

by Anonymousreply 79October 24, 2018 4:24 PM

One of the most talented actresses ever. Like all performers, the quality of her work varied from project to project but unless you have an axe to grind, even her appearance on "Night Gallery" put you on notice that you were watching a major talent. People don't realize that an actor doesn't get much if any rehearsal on fim and tv sets, so they tend to resort to mannerisms that have gottem them through other things.

by Anonymousreply 80October 24, 2018 4:32 PM

bitch

by Anonymousreply 81March 27, 2021 10:12 PM

Mannered to death. Her Academy Award was definitely a gift. Watch her in [italic]Summer & Smoke [/italic].

More tic laden than a stray dog.

by Anonymousreply 82March 27, 2021 10:15 PM
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