Lady Louise Windsor

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So her styling by blood is Princess Louise of Wessex?

She is fabulous!

R2 Wiki says Wessex no longer exists

You know what really irks me? Louise is just a 'Lady' whereas her younger brother is a Viscount.

That's right, R2.

She looks a lot like her grandmother did when she was young, only blonde.

Is she going to have any money of her own when she grows up?

I'd expect her dear Granny and Grandaddy will leave her a bit of something, R7, and then she'd get a good chunk of her parent's estate. She probably already has a trust.

Lady Louise Windsor looks all grown up....

You mean Ol' Wonky Eye?

R5 They take the status of the children of an Earl, which means the eldest son (and heir to the title) uses the father's next highest title by courtesy, while all younger children are styled either Lord or Lady.

Her parents don't have much personal wealth to leave in a trust r8. Sophie was raised middle class and Edward is the Queen's youngest son. Most of the Queen's wealth is tied up in trusts or other instruments that pass to the next monarch - Charles - at her death. There will be some money left to the other children but a whole lot.

An Earl's daughters are styled "Lady" and younger sons "Hon. xxx". When Edward is made Duke of Edinburgh after Philip dies, his son will probably take on a different courtesy title, probably and Earldom himself. Louise's styling will stay the same.

Slightly incorrect, R11. The younger sons of an Earl are styled as “The Honourable FirstName LastName”.

The eldest sons of Dukes, Marquesses, Earls and Viscounts are styled with their fathers’ first subsidiary title.

The younger sons of a Marquess or Duke are styled as “Lord FirstName Last Name”.

All daughters of Dukes, Marquesses and Earls are styled as “Lady FirstName LastName”.

The Queen and Prince Philip undoubtedly love all their grandchildren, but it's well known their favorites are Anne's children, Peter and Zara.

How do you know this, R14? Are you a friend of Her Majesty and His Royal Highness?

Just curious.

R12, how do you know that? You have no idea whatsoever of the royal family's personal, private finances. Stop making stuff up.

The Queen Mother left trust funds to all her great-grandchildren: It was partially a tax dodge, but the kids (except William) all got several million each.

[Quote]Of the trust fund, William and Harry are likely to share about £6m at the age of 21 - the bulk going to the younger son apparently to compensate for not becoming sovereign - and a further £8m when they reach 40. Princess Anne's children Zara and Peter Phillips and Prince Andrew's daughters Beatrice and Eugenie, together with Princess Margaret's children, Viscount Linley and Lady Sarah Chatto, will also receive bequests running into several millions each.

However, since Louise and her brother were born after the Queen Mum's death, I don't know if they came in for that inheritance.

Oops: I re-read the article, and William gets a big chunk of money, which seems unfair, given that he'll inherit the income from the Duchy of Cornwall.

Is the Queen "quite fond" of her? I've read that sometimes Her Majesty is "quite fond" of this person or that person.

R19, I believe she and her brother spend a great deal of time with the Queen and Prince Philip, because their home is very close to Windsor Castle. Lady Louise participates in the sport of carriage driving, which Prince Philip also took up after he gave up polo. And since Prince Edward is a favored child and he's close by, it makes sense that his children would be favored grandchildren.

I wonder if Elizabeth will do the same as her mother, and pass down a bunch of money to the great-grandkids. Which would be great news for Charlotte and Louis in particular, and means that Bea, Genie, and Harry better get cracking on the procreation project (Bea needs a husband first, of course: The Windsors don't give money to bastards).

I can never remember which one is Beatrice and which one is Eugenie. Who's the bug-eyed one and who's the one who looks like a PE teacher?

Bea has those unfortunate Hanoverian pop eyes. You can remember via alliteration: Bug-Eyed Bea.

[quote]She looks a lot like her grandmother did when she was young, only blonde.

Same as Charlotte.

I wonder why she didn't have eye surgery. It's very common.

From R1 link:

[quote]Apparently, this is part of a new rule within the royal family which sees [bold]less members of the royal family[/bold] receiving the titles prince and princess

It is not a new rule but is is the wish of Charles that the Royal family, eventually, will be whittled down to the Cornwells, the Cambridges and the Sussexs.

He may remove the Blood Prince/Princess title from all grandchildren of HM EXCEPT them. Anne's kids are prepared, even though the sow took the imperious title of Princess Royal for herself. Edward's children are prepared, and it would only effect Bea and Eugenie. Andrew is such a hack. Pity Jack didn't accept a Marquesat or something because Eugenie could at least be Marchioness of Somefuck.

But we shall see things revealed when London Bridge is down...

Tiny deep-set eyes, pudgy nose, jacked up teeth, frizzy hair, legs like a piano. Stunning.

[quote] Anne's kids are prepared, even though the sow took the imperious title of Princess Royal for herself.

Anne did not give herself the title of Princess Royal; she was given the title by her mother, the monarch. It cannot be removed until her death, unless if Charles would have to pass new letters patent through Parliament to get that done, and he never would: he and his sister are quite close.

When Anne dies, if William is king he can give the title to Charlotte as the eldest daughter of the monarch.

Anne's children have never had titles of their own. Their father is non-royal and not even a member of the aristocracy. So I'm not clear what you mean by saying they "are prepared."

It was given and she TOOK it!

Anne's children are in the Succession order, are part of the Royal Family and by virtue of not having titles, are prepared to be untitled.

It is a pity that the Princes Royal turned down a title for her children. Keep the Royal Duchies for the immediate family but why not create some Royal Marquesates as second tier recognitions.

Anne was smart not to give her children titles. It helped them be grounded, and they grew into well-adjusted adults who have actual jobs. Andrew should've taken notes.

God the number of people on these threads who think that they know about how the Monarchy operates but really only repeat what they pick up from other clueless people on other threads. And they have picked up what they know from People and In Style.

R31 Anne was never able to “give her children titles” - they were never hers to give. All titles come from the Monarch. Anne’s children as children of the daughter of the Monarch could only inherit any titles from their father and he was untitled. Her Majesty could have created Mark Phillips an Earl (or Duke, Marquess, Viscount etc but he reportedly (never documented) declined the offer.

However even if he had accepted, their children would have been styled as children of an Earl (or whatever) - “Viscount SubsidiaryTitle” for Peter and “Lady Zara Phillips” for Zara. There was never a chance of a Prince Peter and Princess Zara under the Letters Patent issued by King George V in 1917, unless The Queen issued new Letters Patent.

Titles are meaningless anyway, unless you have money and influence to go with them. When you're the grandchild or great-grandchild of a monarch and will never get anywhere near the throne, it's a bit silly to keep calling yourself a Prince or Princess.

Louise has a sweet face & the bloom of youth, but, "a beautiful young lady", OP?

Prince Edward has been waiting for his father to die so he can become the Duke of Edinburgh. If the Queen dies first, the title will probably not go to him. Any comments on this.

R34, Louise has a pretty face, very blonde hair, good bone structure, and a long neck.

I don't think she'll grow up to be a truly great beauty, but if she's shown how to present herself to best advantage, she'll be regarded as one.

She did get the eye surgery r25

I think she is just in that most painfully awkward year. Once she gets her teeth fixed and fills out a bit more, she is going to come into her own. She has that amazing complexion like the Queen and has confidence and personality of a girl older than 14, yet is age appropriate.

When Prince Philip dies, the title Duke of Edinburgh is automatically inherited by his eldest son, Prince Charles, the Prince of Wales. Charles could renounce it and it then it would go into abeyance until he dies, when it falls to William. More likely, there will be a second creation of the Dukedom either by Elizabeth or Charles for Edward and his male heirs. Also, letters patent do not have to be passed by Parliament, as indicated by R29.

Also, if Charles is Duke of Edinburgh when he becomes king, the title would merge with the crown and it would be available for Charles to grant to his brother Edward in a new creation.

When Edward and Sophie married and their titles of Earl and Countess of Wessex were announced it was also announced that the intention was that the Duke of Edinburgh title would be conferred on Edward “in time” or whatever the polite way was of saying “when Philip dies”. It was a surprise that Edward was only created an Earl, but the intention re the Edinburgh title explained that.

As stated upthread if Philip dies before the Queen the title reverts to the Crown and she can create Edward Duke of Edinburgh. If the Queen dies first then on Philip’s death the title reverts to King Charles (or King William if Philip outlives his eldest son) who could then recreate it for Edward.

So many ifs, we’ll have to wait and see. But I’d be very surprised if the Queen predeceases her husband, by the look of him!

^^ R41 here correcting myself - another “if”: If Philip predeceases the Queen the title goes to Charles who would then need to renounce if it were to go to Edward. If not, again as stated upthread, it reverts to the Crown, who would be King Charles, who could bestow it on Edward.

There are the titles Prince and Princess of Wales to acknowledge Wales. The title of Duke of Edinburgh to acknowledge Scotland. Why is there no prominent title to acknowledge Northern Ireland?

Too politically sensitive, R43, although one of the Duke of Gloucester’s subsidiary titles is Baron Culloden - currently bestowed on his grandson. It would never be conferred today (look up the history of the Battle of Culloden for why) but was originally conferred on the current Duke’s father in 1928. Political sensitivities weren’t so considered ninety years ago.

Both William and Harry have subsidiary titles based on locations in Northern Ireland but I imagine that it’s a struggle finding places which aren’t sensitive for either the a Catholic or Protestant communities in Northern Ireland.

I think Louise is the spit of her Auntie Anne, who was a handsome young woman but grew up to look like one of the evil nannies in Mary Poppins.

Anne was an athlete and has kept her figure. She is less concerned with coloring her hair or wearing makeup. She would still "look handsome" if she made the effort but she clearly doesn't care. She dresses suitably and gets on with it. Doesn't suffer fools.

Lady Louise Windsor is 14. I always think she is older because she is so tall. She's still wearing those non-descript classic clothes that royals wear when they are children. I expect next year she's going to be able to dress more contemporary in public. Let's hope she doesn't go to the Yorkies for fashion advice.

She’s 14, yet she dresses like an eight year old. That has to be the most awkward age for a girl, imagine doing that in the worlds spotlight. Having said that, I believe her and her brother are just naturally huge dorks. Prince William was spotted at a tennis match with his mother when he’s was about 12 or 13 and was wearing Ray-bans, don’t see either on of the Wessex kids being able to pull off that look.

R49 She's a 14 year old girl at a formal Royal wedding. She's hardly going to turn up in jeans and a fucking t-shirt.

R49, while I wouldn't use the word "dork", I do agree that Louise and James seem a bit sheltered. Two of my best friends - a Lesbianese couple - raised their two boys in a very sheltered environment (almost no TV, very little pop culture influence, a focus on music lessens, outdoor activities, team sports and other 'old fashioned' pursuits) and the kids have both turned out to be super-children - extremely well-adjusted, able to carry on conversations with other human beings, engaged in the world around them instead of looking at phone screens, etc.

This sums it up for Anne.

Another little piece on her.