Lisa Hartman

I bought the cassette of this album "Til My Heart Stops" the week it was released in 1988

Quelle homesse!

Or is it quel homesse?

Before nose job

She used to dress exactly like Vanity and Apollonia.

Funny how there's this undercurrent of promoting fitness, with Barry Bostwick obviously showing off his bulge. The women are all in leotards and strip off their jackets. Barry seems to grab Lisa's ass, and checks out Judy. This would not fly in the #metoo era.

R4 wow. Even though it was an obvious job, it improved her looks so much.

"Yeah I fucked him"

Oh, honey, who HASN'T?

Maaahhh baybeeeees!

Was she successful as a singer? Did any of her songs crack the Top 40?

I think she had a hit or two on the country charts with Clint Black, R11, but her solo stuff never went anywhere chartwise. She had a good amount of success as an actress, but I think she wanted the music career more, and it never really happened.

She was basically Melissa Sue Anderson's butcher, older sister.

She got to sing top 40 hits on Knots Landing and then the Alec Baldwin character had her sing on his Christian tv show. She sang Amy Grant songs on those episodes. As a kid I always wished those were on her albums.

R6 what are you talking about?

I sort of love the fact that she was doing well career-wise, met Clint, got married and then settled down with him.

I don't think either of them felt the need to continually chase the spotlight.

I wish more celebrities, actors, actresses, musicians followed the same path. Yea, you were on a hit show or a soap or had a hit single or two... your brief moment shining bright is OVER. Go and enjoy life doing something else.

No, I was not into Lisa Hartman. But I was into Clint Black! He was hot! I wished he was gay.

She was the poor man's Patty Duke.

[quote]Were you into Lisa Hartman?

Yeah, about six inches' worth.

R6. This was meant for the Judy and Audrey Landers thread

R6 and R20, I am so lost.

I want to see whatever R6 was describing! Post a link, R6??

She had a hard look.

She was just a piece of meat

R21 this is the clip with Barry Bostwick, Lisa Hartman and Judy Landers

I know it's a DL cliche to have this reaction but I had gotten pretty confident that Clint Black was a closeted gay (he did a lot of the "I don't have time to date" thing for a while), and then all of a sudden he was dating her and they got married and it seemed pretty arranged and fake to me.

However, if they're still together I take it all back.

Lisa's mom Jonni was a big shot PR person. She represented several big names and companies. I think she died last year.

Clint, not gay BTW.

I like that one duet they did that was a hit. I forget the name.

She was in a couple juicy made for tv movies

She looks damn good for a woman in her '60s.

I found her cute and endearing in Tabatha.

She looked like the girl next door who went bad girl. Because of her cheeks and eyes she could only look so hard, but then she butched it all up with her rocker hair. I also thought she was a lesbian and that Clint was a closet case but they somehow clicked and made it work.

Clint has a daughter by some random woman he banged in the late '80s, and he and the mother tussled over child support in the 1990s. It was well known that Lisa did NOT want that kid around. Clint paid for her upkeep but had no real relationship with her.

Apparently she's now an aspiring singer:

The only thing I’ve seen her in was that soap from the early 90s with Jennifer Beals, Drew Barrymore, and Tuesday Knight.

R32 was Clint with Lisa when he knocked up the other woman?

Ive been obsessed with TV movies from the 80s/90s lately, and found Dazzle on YouTube. Anyway, Lisa is the main character in it.

R29 I hated Lisa's 80's spiked hairdo and didn't know that she could sing. Damn, she and Clint both look and sound great in this video. I never hear of Clint anymore. He should be up on the charts.

R33 2000 Malibu Road. I can’t believe I know this shit. It was a summer show I think (because I was on vacation in Toronto when I used to watch it).

It was a Spelling show, wasn’t it?

I thought she looked very classy and demure on her Knots Landing wedding day.

R34, I've read a couple of different birthdates for the daughter, anywhere from 1989 to 1991. He met Lisa on New Year's Eve, 1990. So it's unclear what the deal is there.

She had a hard time getting pregnant too, IIRC and was over forty when their kid was born.

Hard to believe Clint's eyes have actually gotten smaller. He always did look like Roy Rogers' bastard son, and now he's turned into Roy Rogers.

He must have a big ol' peen for her to stay with him all these years.

Yeah well, his can't hold a candle to mine.

Can you believe how thin and gorgeous Alec Baldwin was back then? JFC he was beautiful!

She did this TV movie where her character talks about her botched hysterectomy that I used for my acting class.

He was a great foil for Joan.

He showed himself to be a control freak on CA. A dumb one.

NEELEY O'HARA!!!!!!!

She looks like kim bassinger

Uh Kim Bassinger is a beauty. Lisa H, not.

I think she looks like Theresa Russell.

Here you go, R27.

She’s Jewish and from Houston. My friend from Houston back then knew the family and always brought that up when she appeared in anything.

Lisa Hartman Lisa Hartman

R44, I really hope you're a dude!

R26 & R52 I'm from Houston, too, and my mother worked with Jonni Hartman at KPRC, the local NBC affiliate, for several years. Lisa is quite a bit older than I am, so I never met her, but I do remember that my mom often would mention her whenever something went on with Lisa careerwise. Can't exactly say I was "into her" but I probably was made more aware of her comings & goings than I otherwise would have been because of my mother's connection.

On the other hand, those photos of her with a shirtless, furry-chested Alec Baldwin from back in the day do pique my interest....

Fire plug.

She looks ugly and I hate her.

R41, or he could be a really great man who treats her right.

She seemed likable, but Tabitha sucked (not due to her) and then I don't remember what else she did.

She looks terrible at R38 and it's not because of the cleavage! The femullet, headband, wristlet ... yechhhh! Not even the beauty of the groom can redeem that shot.

R44 is Jack McFarland.

I remember the shock when her character, CG was killed off on Knots Landing. I guess a lot of people must have complained, because she was back as "Cathy Geary" pretty soon.

R61, BINGO!

R62- yes, there was big fan backlash when Ciji got killed off but her 2nd character didn’t really ignite. She was always a 5th banana on the show, backseat to the trio of powerful female leads (Mills, Van Ark and Lee) and even Constance McCashin’s Laura.

That was priceless R24. Thank you!

What the fuck do you mean by *even* Constance McCashin's Laura? I was the star of that goddamned show. Who else went through rape, a rumored lesbian affair, child birth, divorce, fucking Bill Devane, and a brain tumor? Who, I ask you!

This small online picture was a full page ad in US magazine in the 80s along an interview with Lisa.

Alec with no pants led to much masturbatory fantasies.

Rock Singer Ciji

I don't care what Alec Baldwin has said, for a guy who was THAT FUCKING HOT to have hit the wall at a relatively early age must've been tough to deal with.

I had the cheeky "Tic Tac spokeswoman" tagline upthread and am JUST now understanding that Kelly Harmon (Mark Harmon's sister!) and LISA HARTMAN are NOT the same person!!

R69 I still think he's hot

I remember seeing Lisa on a Love Boat rerun pre-nose job. Didn't even look like the same person.

If you want a real treat, google or go to YouTube and look up her singing “Hole in my Heart”. Girl has some talent and pipes on her. It’s always been my favorite version of that song.

Jonni made far more money than Lisa ever did.

I can't believe that I am defending Lisa Hartman, but I think that some here are judging her through the lens of the 2000s. Her look on Knots Landing was very in at that time. The hair was ubiquitous and even that wedding photo is very much the look of 1989 brides(the headpiece and hair-not the cleavage.) I agree that she was not beautiful in the Jaquelyn Smith true beauty sense, but she was very cute. I would say that she was the dime store Farrah Fawcett with a slightly punk edge. If you notice, she is never smiling in any of her photos. She really seemed to like being the "bad girl."

Off topic" wasn't it when he was super hot in Knots Landing the same time he was engaged to Janine Turner?

Some people think the biggest reason Knots hasn't been released is because of the many covers of songs that Lisa sang on the show. The deals they made for licensing the songs don't include DVD releases, just for Television. So they have to have to do it all over again, and some writers demand unreasonable amounts that the companies can't afford. It's been an issue for other shows that feature popular music too from being released on DVD.

I liked her better with her original nose.

R76 - That SUCKS!

I’ve forgotten all about her OP.

She had a quintessential 80s look

I had this poster of Lisa on my wall

If you say her name 13 times while holding a candle in front of a mirror, she'll appear sing you one of her songs and drag you to hell!

Considering she was big in the 80s, her life turned out pretty well.

It's so weird..cos, in Ireland and uk knots landing was about 5 yrs behind and on daytime...and yet, with zero knowledge of Lisa, I was so drawn to CG ..her character. She obviously had something that wasn't just hype. I can even sing "I've got a hole in my heart' lol....she was fabulous...

I always thought she had a hard, tough look to her when she was younger that was a bit unappealing, but she looks like she's really softened over the years according to that recent video that was posted. Age suits her.

"Tabitha" premiered 41 years ago tonight, September 10, 1977 on ABC

[quote] i think that some here are judging her through the lens of the 2000s. Her look on Knots Landing was very in at that time.

I am a time traveler and have come here from the year 1984 to tell you that we all thought Lisa Hartman looked fucking ridiculous.

Destiny, looks, and career-making nosejob

The pilot for [italic]Tabitha,[/italic] spelled [italic]Tabatha,[/italic] starred an obscure actress named Liberty Williams. This blog post says it never aired, but I saw it as a kid and was surprised when the regular run started with Lisa Hartman, because the two of them were so different. (It's not on YouTube at the moment.)

I read a blind item that she and Clint Black threw the hottest swingers parties in Nashville. It was on the AGC page somewhere in the older archives.

I would get between that shit

Somebody posted here years ago that Clint likes to suck dick at adult bookstores.

WOW SHE was rough looking. Like someone tough one who demands to speak to the manager NOW.

She looks old in these pictures

R91, your linked thread says nothing about Clint Black other than that he knocked up a groupie.

She reminds me of Jennifer Aniston.

According to the link Clint Black was married to Chelsea Bain’s mother.

I had no idea that Clint Black had a child... Chelsea Bain (Black). Interesting. Is this a case of a woman getting knocked up, having the baby and not relying upon Clint?

I wonder why Clint and Lisa never spawned one or more... they didn't even go the adoption route.

She was so hard-looking and had such horrible hair (even for the 80s!) I don't know what her appeal was.

Was she really that popular? I think the Ciji character on KL was a big hit... so much so that they brought her back as Cathy after (spoiler) Ciji died. But my sense is while Hartman was fine as Ciji, the popularity had more to do with the writing and storytelling at the time. It was a great murder mystery, I never got the sense Cathy was as popular, and post-KL, it's not like Hartman had a huge career.

In summary, she was hot for a split second due to circumstances, then was an average level celebrity.

Discuss.

I always liked how polished she seemed on Knots Landing. Her nose job really did something to change everything about her face. I think she must have had at least two; the original wider nose from Tabitha, a neater looking one pre-1982, then the really narrow WASPy one from knots onwards.

Does her pussy stink?

Check her out in "Deadly Blessing" , an early horror film starring Ernest Brognine, Lois Nettleton, Doug Barr and SHARON STONE!!! Lisa plays someone she may not appear to be.

R97 why would they want to put an end to their incredible lives by having kids to raise and be tied down by them

R97 They did have a kid

Ciji has a day from hell.

Lisa Whelchel > Lisa Hartman

You know she's got some stories from the 80s.

Lisa Hartman Black

Her nose looks ridiculous, so obvious. They made it teeny-tiny, but somehow her face is still hard and butch. It did nothing to soften her fearures.

Lisa and Lorna Luft before Carrie and Samantha.

Lisa and Clint

She was so rough and hard-looking.

I just went to Clint's wikipedia page and it says he was born in 1962 which makes Lisa about 6 years older than him. I'm actually shocked he's not older Not necessarily older than Lisa, but older in general.

Poor man’s version of me and Keith.

Lisa and Clint make much more sense than Nicole and Keith.

I didn’t like her. She was too much of a tv actress who seemed generic to me. She sure wanted to have a succsssful music career a l a Olivia Newton-John, Sheena Easton, but it never took off.

Lisa Hartman, Hot Stuff!

I like Temp Me from 1987

What the world needs now... is LISA HARTMAN!

More Judy Landers, please!

Mooning Johnny Carson

Clint Black and Lily Pearl Black. I have to say that I was absolutely shocked when I heard her sing, and that the fact that she sounds better than both of her parents.

Lily Pearl Black singing.

Her albums sucked

Damn, Clint really does look like Roy Rogers.

I hate her, solely because she got to do those hot scenes with the hairy, sexy Joe Penny in those movies they made together. Bitch!

She looked so fucking 80's and never in a good way.

R124, Her first album and her last album did kind of suck, but I thought that Hold On and Letterock were pretty solid albums.

Letterock

Lisa Hartman looks like every Tammy I've ever known from Texas...and that means she looks like a trailer park honeytrap.

I listened to "Hold On" (so you don't have to). She was very unremarkable as a rock singer. The standout was this outtake produced by Jeff Barry - much more effective in an understated vein.

Thanks R131, I have that CD, which contains bonus tracks. But that song wasn't one of them. Anyhow, I think it sounds great.

But as I posted above, her daughter (Lily Pearl Black) has a much better voice than she and Clint has.