Trump Ally calls Decriminalizing Homosexuality "a mistake"

r1 Why are you here?

I have a right to be where ever i wish.

And so it begins. This sounds like a deliberate attempt to encourage a backlash against us. Bad times.

Asshole.

Republicans are disgusting aberrations of humanity. Absolute filth.

I think that legalizing gay marriage was a milestone. As a group, LGBT must remain vigilant and mobilized.

R1 and R3 are vile.

What a surprise. POS is a POS.

I have the poster on block, R8. It's a Trumpster.

I think decriminalizing religious nutjobs and sociopatsh and giving them political power is a mistake.

VOTE all the republicans out of office. THIS IS YOUR POWER!

-Register to VOTE

-Research all the candidates

-Plan how you are going to vote, mail in or in person.

-VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

-VOTE for ALL Democrats. The Republicans should be punished for supporting this types of people and having these vile policy in our modern Democracy.

Use the power that we all have given each other in our Democracy. VOTE the Republicans out of power, all of them. This is it. It will get much worse. VOTE them OUT.

Tony Perkins is an irrelevant dinosaur. These types are always going to be foaming at the mouth and saying these types of things. The mistake is in giving this idiot a headline. His ramblings aren't worthy of any media attention.

R11 is correct. We must take his advice.

OP and r7 here. I am not a "Trumpster". I am a gay man.

Tony Perkins strikes me as the kind of guy who once got a drunken brojob in the frathouse at 3AM, loved it, but wanted to pretend it never happened.

Just VOTE the Republicans out of office, this is the most imperative thing.

But why are these religious nutjob, Nazis, so fucking stupid? European Civilizations tended to be pro gay. Hello, think the prolific empires of Ancient Greece and the Romans. What existed in Europe before were egalitarian small scale societies who were also pro sex, pro gay. Being pro sex and pro gay is NATURE.

Tony Perkins and his kind are probably gay themselves but deeply closeted which is why they are so anti-homosexual.

What about heteros lying and cheating on their spouses. Being horrible parents. Creating dysfunctional families. Divorcing and walking out?

Gays are relatively new to this marriage and kids game. Don't blame us.

I am the farthest thing possible from a Trumpster, idiot @ R10.

Apologies, R10. I thought you had me blocked because you thought I was a Trumpster.

This will lead to concentration camps if we can’t get a handle on this now. I’m not being hysterical either.

These types are usually pedos or so deep in the closet that they have to take their irrationality and frustrations out on gays, immigrants and minorities.

And, how have the FUCKING Log Cabin Republicans responded to this? And, also to the linked article?

Here's one homo story he doesn't want anything to do with.

No, you're not R20. I have personally tired of those like R12, R14, R16. I don't care what makes these idiots tick or what they can or can't be. What I care about are my hard fought and won rights being attacked and at risk. I've now come to HATE Republicans! I want nothing to do with ANY of them except to stomp them into the ground.

And, we all know that the Trump Administration recently appointed Perkins (on the recommendation of Mitch McConnell) to this International Religious Freedom

I hope when there Dems take control they will recind the tax exempt status of the fundies since they are really political groups trying to pass legislation against so many people.

You mean Mitch McConnell the gay traitor married to a Chinese spy?

You know what’ll happen next? Kim Davis will get her job back...

These people would turn the clock back to 1900AD on gay rights if they could get away with it.

Why are Christians so obsessed with the sex lives of consenting adults, who they will never, ever meet? And why does every sexual “sin” that they identify, immediately lead to pedastry?

I just cannot imagine spending my life, going on and on and on and on about who fucks who. I mean, they already think everyone but them, are going to hell, so problem solved. Right?

They are sadistic sociopaths.

Vote the Republican out of office, ALL OF THEM. THIS is going to get worst, it is very dire.

Is there such a thing as a "Enemies of Gays" listing? If not, maybe one should be produced and made to go VIRAL all over the USA!

[quote]Kim Davis will get her job back...

Wait.. what?? When did she lose it??

Totally agree r29. Couldn’t have said it better.

R20 is right. Make sure you are eligible to vote. Vote in primaries and vote in the general.

I'm quite alright with someone making this ass hat a martyr.

[quote]Tony Perkins is an irrelevant dinosaur.

Exactly.

Tony Perkins is upset that he & groups like his no longer have the influence they once did.

Tony Perkins (and the innumerable others like him) are closeted. End of story. Straight men spend ZERO time considering the morality of gay sodomy.

Another closeted republican....see you under the bathroom stall Tony!

"Tony Perkins", how ironic!

Commie Cuba is about to legalize gay marriage and the religious right wants to criminalize gays in the US. And we're somehow better?

[quote]Tony Perkins is upset that he & groups like his no longer have the influence they once did.

Unfortunately, their views will continue to have influence on our society for quite some time to come, thanks to Trump's stacking of the judiciary.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo appeared on Perkins' radio show last week to announce the first "Ministerial to Advance Religious Freedom" – a gathering of foreign ministers, religious leaders, and civil society representatives from around the world, coming together to advance the cause of “religious liberty” – i.e., ways to camouflage discrimination with religion.

[quote]OP and [R7] here. I am not a "Trumpster". I am a gay man.

My post was not meant for you. Obviously you are not a Trumpster.

I noted that R1/R3, who I have on block, is a Trumpster.

And in Pakistan, R40:

[quote]A new law lets people self-identify their gender on official documents and offers protection to 13 trans candidates in this week’s election

"European Civilizations tended to be pro gay. Hello, think the prolific empires of Ancient Greece and the Romans. What existed in Europe before were egalitarian small scale societies who were also pro sex, pro gay. Being pro sex and pro gay is NATURE."

They also enslaved half of the population of their enemies, slaughtered their brethren for sacrifices to their gods, were subject frequently to despots, tyrants, monarchs and dictatorships, more so than democracies and republics, women were subservient and had no rights. Homosexuality was tolerated, but not accepted and the Romans loathed it and abhorred it. The Senate hated the gay Emperors especially. Hadrian had to keep his gay relationship a secret so as to not alienate his troops. They all married for show. Only the supposed cultured Romans who spoke Greek and were Hellenophiles had sex with men, usually younger teens or boys. Your view of gays in the ancient world is distorted and totally incorrect.

Iran has been a leader in tranny surgeries (mostly because they force gays to undergo them) for a while now, r43. The Religion of Peace hates gays but apparently has no problem with making pseudo-women. Don't think for a second any Muslim country is thinking of treating gays decently.

But it’s a good idea though, r45. I don’t understand why they don’t try something similar in the states.

Guys like Perkins would also probably be able to get behind it.

Tony Perkins is one of those Christians who places the blame on natural disasters like floods and hurricanes on gays and liberals. His house was destroyed in 2016 by a flood.

R45 an evangelical is calling for recriminalizing homosexuality. This has fuck all to do with Iran.

Index finger , "Jen" Richards will be cheering this on, no doubt.

I think forced sex reassignment surgery is the way to deal with the gay problem. This has dragged on for decades now and tough action needs to be taken...

With the Trump administration beginning to listen to the concerns of supporters like Perkins and his followers maybe the tide is begging to turn.

People with opinions like this are dangerous and need to be eliminated. We need an armed gay vigilante.

r48 I was responding to the idiot who was holding up Pakistan as an example of tolerance for its stance on trannies. Just one more thing that shows LGBTQIAAXYZ8675309 is just a crock of shit. We gays (and I guess the les can come too) have to look out for our own, period.

I wouldn't fuck Tony Perkins with Ann Coulter's dick.

I’ve got a question: as a gay If their was a cure that would make you 100% straight would you take it?

R54 Yes!!

A "cure," r54? As if being gay was a disease? Fuck off, homophobic frau!

Well, it’s not a natural condition to be gay. We didn’t evolve to find the same sex attractive as it would lead to the human race dying out. Just because of the gay rights crusade of the last forty years doesn’t make it a normal physical condition to be gay.

R52 I apologize for being aggressive toward you. I missed your post. Yes, we do need to take all these threats seriously.

A PhD scholar from Harvard says that the original version of Leviticus, the book of the Bible used to condem homosexuality, actually allowed it, and that the addition of the condemning language was added a century or so later.

Ted Talk - "Theme: Future Societys" [sic]

"One to two percent of the main male population is considered as pedophiles. This means worldwide more than 57 million people. Therefore, pedophilia is not an irrelevant phenomenon we can ignore. It is unrelated to class status and educational level. The medical student Mirjam Heine explains how an appropriate approach to the unchangeable sexual orientation pedophilia might look like."

(Pedophilia described here as an "orientation" and a "sexual desire"). The "left" is also in a process of pushing things that will make people think decriminalizing homosexuality was a mistake. They are using the language used for homosexuality for T, pedo and incest. They do not care how this will affect homosexual rights or existence. They have other interests).

Would you do it though, r56. I mean, a chance to be a normal heterosexual?

[quote]r54 as a gay, If their was a cure that would make you 100% straight, would you take it?

I know i’d probably like a lot of drama queens I see to magically become straight...maybe then they’d shut up.

Alright, I’ve got another question. If you could roofie straight guy you liked with a drug that would make him into raging slutty queen would you do it?

I sucked him off once in an ABS. Allegedly.

[quote]Well, it’s not a natural condition to be gay. We didn’t evolve to find the same sex attractive...

Actually, scientific evidence points 100% to the contrary of your claims. Of course, I wouldn't expect someone who hasn't cracked a book or read a scholarly journal in his entire life to know what "scientific evidence" is, so there is that.

He wants to make homosexuality illegal and his name is Tony Perkins?

Complete rubbish, r65. I’ve probably read/studied more than you and there’s no scientific basis for what you’re saying except in rare incidences among certain species. You’re simply another deluded queen who’s trying to validate homosexuality as a natural behaviour.

R67, your tone suggests a trip to Greece should be in your immediate future...

We evolved to differentiate the function of copulation and sexuality. Sexual arousal with body parts whose structure and functions are not the same as the ones our body has, is a sickness. In fact, the most intelligent species practice sexual segragation, not even cohabitation at that level of development, as we become more compkex neuro cognitively, we apply logics, and logics dictates that sexual attraction to members of another sex is not only unhealthy but dangerous in some respects. Sexual attraction to opposite sex was considered by some gnostic schools as a curse given to the demons, because they were cursed with sexual dimorphism, not like the easy kind humans have but a very harsh condition, unlike anything we have ever seen in this world.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to feel sexual attraction to members of an unlike sexual kind, totally distint and disimilar morphologically to ourselves. Homosexuals rightly differentiate copulation and sexuality. Two completely different things. The idea that if humans become homosexuals will end humanity is bullshit, for one simple reason, reproduction is based primarily on female choice. Maternity is a natural right given to females, they can have babies whether they are missing one or two limbs, or bad looking or whatever, whereas paternity is a privilege given to males by females. Of course we don't learn this truth in school,but nature is biased. There is asymmetry in nature for a reason, not for unity like they want us to believe but for disparity and antagonic conditions.

One word for the ignoramus at R57:

BONOBO

And various anthropological studies of societies where homosexual people (predominantly male) are given special status (see fa'afafine, and more) where their benefit to the population is in taking on nurturing roles, such as childcare and/or elderly care, work typically rejected by males performing the local brand of masculinity. [ And before R57 demands I go fetch for him, this info is fairly easily found on the internet, as well as documentaries on fa'afafine and other 3rd gender peoples.] Similar, if less formal roles are also seen in our own western cultures- anecdotally I think many of us would be familiar with expections that lesbian/gay daughters/sons take care of aging parent , where the hets are let off , the excuse being 'Oh but s/he's too busy because married-with-kids etc'.

Homosexual behaviors have been observed and documented in over 450 species. This is discounting all the insect and worm species in which hermaphroditism is common and in which the concept of gender hardly applies. Homosexual behavior is hardly "rare" - in addition to simple mounting behaviors, there are numerous species in which long-term and in some cases life-long pair bonds happen between animals of the same sex.

One man can impregnate hundreds of women, in theory, so male homosexuality is no threat to the survival of the species at all. Moreover, gay men have been able to get aroused enough to impregnate women throughout history. It only takes one or two sexual acts to get a woman the right age pregnant. There is much research now that suggests that there are a number of moments in gestation in which the fetus can be flooded with hormones from the mother. Those moments seem to lead ultimately to sexual orientation - essentially turning a "switch" on or off.

There's a lot of strange anti-science stuff being promoted on DL. This stuff is not all that hard to find or research. We need to know this information to fight the disinformation and anti-scientific crap promulgated by the religious right

Not sure why you're bothering to engage with the visiting homophobic troll...

"[R1] Why are you here?"

He's here because dog whistles are free speech, don't you know.

Any basic bitch will tell you that.

...and r1 is definitely a basic bitch...

Thank you, R69, R70, R71 and R72; you did the work that R57 tried to refute (after all, he's more well read than any of us, or so he would claim). R57 iz smert.

SLAP!

U.S. Justice Dept. Files Brief Rejecting LGBTQ Workplace Protections THU, JUL 27

The U.S. Justice Department said flatly in a legal brief that federal civil rights law does not ban discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Tony Perkins NOOOO!

R1 probably a bored teenager in flyover. Remember Nikki Haley’s recent speech to rightwing teens about not “owning” the libs?

There’s so little for the trumpkins to do in stripmall hell that they’ll choose liberal forums at random and then troll on them. They’re best ignored because their goal is to get attention. Just f&f and block.

That is a confusing report at R77. It starts with a case that is specifically about a gay case , then starts talking about transgender.

R79-over 7 million people in California and New York voted for Trump. Do you think those Trump supporters are different from the Trump supporters in the Midwest?

Yes r81, I do think they are different in at least one way. The Trump supporters in California and New York are richer due to higher earnings in those areas.