No one is coming to save us

Wish there were somewhere I could move...

OP

We can save ourselves!! VOTE

MARY!

Do you seriously think our votes will be counted? Our votes will be tossed. They will say our registrations aren't valid. And the Supreme Court will nod their assent.

We'll know in November where we stand. But these remaining four months are probably going to be the ugliest of this whole regime, so strap in.

I agree Op, we are down but not quite out.

You snooze, you lose. We told you so in 2016. Overconfidence is lethal.

I love listening to intricate conspiracy theories from people who two years ago couldn't tell you who Vladimir Putin is, much less find Russia on a map.

Overconfidence? You "only" needed foreign interference, voter suppression, and FBI meddling to get your candidate to barely squeak into office. And he still lost the popular vote. So much about overconfidence.

[quote] You snooze, you lose. We told you so in 2016. Overconfidence is lethal.

I don't get this. I voted. I begged other people to vote. I didn't snooze and was not overconfident.

[quote] I love listening to intricate conspiracy theories from people who two years ago couldn't tell you who Vladimir Putin is, much less find Russia on a map.

Putting aside the obvious idiocy of this response (we knew who Putin was and where Russia was), there is nothing intricate about believing that Republicans, including the POTUS, were funneled Russian money and decided to take it.

Yes, overconfidence. Hillary barely made campaign stoop appearances after Labor Day 2016 and didn’t step foot in multiple swing states she lost. She even was quoted as questioning why she wasn’t up by a landslide over Trump. She was a lazy, inert, incompetent campaigner.

[quote] Yes, overconfidence. Hillary barely made campaign stoop appearances after Labor Day 2016 and didn’t step foot in multiple swing states she lost. She even was quoted as questioning why she wasn’t up by a landslide over Trump. She was a lazy, inert, incompetent campaigner.

So, this is all Clinton's fault. Got it.

You personally may not have been overconfident, but Media and Democrats generally expressed confidence there was no way Trump could win with his craziness and the built in demographic and electoral college advantage of Democrats. They also claimed Republicans were divided about Trump and their turnout would be supressed. Others said Latinos, blacks, women,and youth were so incensed by Trump, they would stampede the voting booth.

So your way of responding to the fact that Trump, the Republicans, and the Supreme Court are destroying the American way of life is to point fingers at Dems.

R8 who exactly is “we”?

It's time to get out. The USofA of old is over and the reactionary fascistic wing has won. Let the Handmaid's Tale be a caution you don't want to wait until you can't get out to get out.

MARY!

Trump barely won as it is, it doesn't take much to knock him out.

I am CONCERNED!!!

[quote] Trump barely won as it is, it doesn't take much to knock him out.

Except he got to install Gorsuch instead of Garland. And the oldest people in the Court are the liberals and will likely be replaced by more Gorsuches. That will last longer than Trump.

It does not matter who's fault it was. We need to focus on the future and on solutions!!!!

But we aren't. I still see Sanders supporters saying they won't vote for Democrats because they aren't liberal enough. And Trump and the Republicans have convinced people that what's good for millionaires is somehow good for the poor. Immigrants are the new scapegoats and once they are all tossed, they will turn on us.

FUCK THIS NOISE, CUNT OP!!

GET THE FUCK OUT AND VOTE! TAKE TO THE STREETS!

BLOCK ALL CONCERN TROLLS. DEFEATISTS, RUSSIANBOTS AND CONSERVATROLLS!!

R22 = concern troll. Ignore it. Ignore any voice that says resistance is futile or we are already doomed. They are working for the enemy whether they know it or not. They’re as brainwashed as the other side. Block them out and keep resisting and fighting and speaking out. Never stop.

I hope you are all right and I am wrong.

The world might be better off with The Decline of the American Empire.

We live in interesting times.

BREAKING: Judge Ellis DENIES Paul Manafort's motion to dismiss his Virginia indictment. This was his challenge in the Virginia case to Mueller's appointment.

What R6 said. If we fail to take back the House or the Senate then we're pretty fucked because the only way to lose the house (at this point in time) would be mass voter suppression/voting "irregularities."

[quote]So, this is all Clinton's fault. Got it.

When you lash out and call over 20% of all Americans "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic"... yeah, you're not doing yourself any favors. I think I'll just insult a huge chunk of the public, and see if I can win over those undecided independents.

Blame the Russians all you want, but until the Dems repair the Bernie-Hillary split, and find a candidate that everyone can get behind, you run the danger of losing elections.

[quote] Blame the Russians all you want...

I didn't I blame the people responsible for the policies for the policies

[quote] but until the Dems repair the Bernie-Hillary split

No such thing exists. All I see are pouting Benrsters. Clintonites have moved on.

[quote] and find a candidate that everyone can get behind

While at the same time demanding absolute purity!!!

[quote] you run the danger of losing elections.

Not to mention gerrymandering, voter suppression...

[quote]When you lash out and call over 20% of all Americans "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic"... yeah, you're not doing yourself any favors. I think I'll just insult a huge chunk of the public, and see if I can win over those undecided independents.

When did Clinton call ALL of tRump voters "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic"? Quote, please.

She called 12% of the voters (half of the eligible voters voted in the election, less than half of those voted for tRump) "deplorable".

This is not why she lost, R29. Why do you work so hard on selling this right-wing point?

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We will save ourselves. Wait for that pendulum to swing to the other side. Nobody will get away with crap like this ever again

FFS, R29, yet Trump was spewing his racist shit everywhere, lying out of his ass all the time, dozens of women came out to accuse him, he had the grab em by the pussy tape, but Hillary called sexists, mysoginists and racists deplorables, so naturally she's the evil one! She called them a mean name!

Yeah, I get the feeling Mueller is going to say, "Yeah, I can't pin anything on him," if we ever get to that point. And the repugs won't bring the turd up on any impeachment charges even if Mueller has a steaming lava pile of evidence. Most importantly, "we" aren't doing anything differently since the trauma of November 2016, so how are we to expect anything will be changed? Putrump has the world where he wants us -- thrown off balance and just reacting to one atrocity after another. The fact that the media made Trump the story 24/7 is what gave him the WH. Any publicity is good publicity for PT Barnum Trump, and "we" talk about him endlessly. What has changed? There's absolutely nothing that will knock his base out from under him, including if he shot every idiot standing behind him at his tantrum rallies.

"They" (the dark side) already had the Supremes, so we're actually quite f-ed for about 40 years. They just waited til today to remind us. And when Putin magically wins every seat in the midterms, what exactly are we going to do about it? I'm not looking at any Dem to save us, either. We already took out a hopeful Franken (thanks, Kirsten Gillibrand), so we are more apt to just self destruct more than getting a beating. No one is inspiring a liberal march to the polls, either.

Maybe we can just hope for a Canadian coup.

Forgive me, R31, I should say "over 20% of all American voters".

That's exactly the point, R34. Trump is gross, but didn't insult the American voters.

I'm not trying to "sell" anything. If you have a different opinion, that's fine. But that's my opinion on where the election turned.

[quote]Trump barely won as it is, it doesn't take much to knock him out.

A left hook to the jaw should do it.

[quote] R14: They also claimed Republicans were divided about Trump and their turnout would be supressed.

They actually were divided. Only one major newspaper endorsed Trump. I think it was the LA Times, but whomever. All the former Republican Presidents and Republican Presidential candidates did not endorse Trump. Both were unprecedented.

See the link for prominent Republicans who are anti-Trump.

You will save yourselves. Looking in from the outside, I still have faith in the US. It might take time, it might not be over this November, but the political pendulum will swing, and enough people will decide that they want decency back in the political process. When that happens, change will come quickly. The Republicans are gutless and disloyal, but when they feel that Trump is a vote-loser, they will turn against him. They are held hostage by him, but the party leaders have no loyalty to him.

Trump represents the last cry of rage of an ageing demographic who hated seeing an intelligent, dignified black man in the White House. That generation will die out and, as always, the next generation will react against the previous one.

Have faith. There is greatness left in the American constitutional system, and you will use it to cleanse your politics of the contagion which has gripped it.

I pray to Cher that you’re right, R39.

There’s always Canada, OP.

Also Old Europe.

Eventually, a new party will rise. The Democrats don't attract enough moderates anymore.

^ Getting citizenship isn't all that easy. Of course it can be accomplished but it's very time consuming and involves money and patience. After all of the run-a-round one may still be denied citizenship.

Stop It! You can"t win by giving it up and discouraging others

This will pass and We Will Win. do what you can but don't give up

R35. One thing I am certain of is that Mueller already has a whole shit ton of dirt on Trump. Forget collusion- let's talk conspiracy/ treason. The whole damn family are low life criminals. The report will be shocking in the depth of Trumps crimes and depravity. Not just Russia and Trump but several other countries where Trump has exchanged money for favors. Never in history had a Presidential administration been so compromised. Come on. We all know what this putz has been up to along with Uday and Qusay and Plastic Barbie and Melanoma. This is one for the history books.

The problem is the magical thinking that someone is going to save us. It's what gave us Trump and Sanders. No politician is magical. If people don't work for their own benefit and against evil, it will persist.

Exactly

My balls itch.

[quote]We can save ourselves!! VOTE

LOL! We did vote. For Hillary. A lot of fucking good that did us.

I feel sad. Requiem aeterna for god America .....

What the fuck is the point of relying on voting in a system where districts are gerrymandered and in the case of the presidential vote, the winner doesn't need a majority of votes? It is a mockery of democracy. Why is the Democratic Party not arguing for constitutional reform?

All balls itch, r49. It's a fact.

I am seriously looking into moving to the South of Spain - possibly Sevilla ( one of my favorite places) or perhaps Valencia. I work remotely and the cost of living is quite low for Western Europe. I don't think democracy as we have known it will survive Trump.

Too soon op. Let’s strike back like the empire and see what happens.

For the people wanting to move. Wait Until you see what other countries treat immigrants like. Not to be Debbie downer. But most euro countries aren’t going to let you move there unless you bring a significant wallet. I’ve done it twice, Australia and UK. most of them will require a degree. And if you’re over 40 most are going to flat out deny you.

[R36] Trump called voters dumb all the time. He said the entire state of Iowa was stupid during the primaries. And he WON Iowa! He insulted tons of Americans. ALL. THE. TIME before the election. And he still won (with help from Pooty).

R56, I was thinking the same thing: His lack of remorse over the "grab 'em by the pussy" conversation was pretty fucking insulting to female voters.

Republicans don’t let up in their quest to rule and crush. They are naturally aggressive, relented, and United. You can’t get Democrats focused and united to win dog catcher.

Also, R55 is right. It's much more difficult to move (permanently) to Canada, Australia, or Europe than most Americans realize. That's not a workable escape plan for the vast majority of us.

American gays better save money. It will soon illegal to be gays or engage in any gay activities. Gay clubs will be closed. Gays will be bullied, beat up and jailed. Trump will ensure it will happen very soon.

It is not hard to move to Spain if you do not work in Spain and can demonstrate that you have adequate income to live there also. I have a job with a US based company and I work entirely remotely. I will not be taking a job from any Spaniard. Spain has 25 % unemployment. They welcome expats who have the money to live there, pay rent and support Spanish economy with purchase power. You cannot compare Spain to the UK or Australia. You must be quite wealthy to be able to move to the UK and not need to work there.

I have done due diligence and understand the taxation issues as well - just adding that in before someone brings that up.

Part of me says fight Trump like he fights, but then I look at the graveyard of those who tried that including, Jeb!, Lil Marco, “Crooked Hillary,” Mark “Appalachian Trail” Sanford, Bob Corker, and Lyin Ted. Trump is a natural charlatan, bruiser, conman, thug, and bigot. You can’t beat him at being down and dirty. Now the problem is what’s the alternative because whatever has been tried Aint working.

[quote]I love listening to intricate conspiracy theories from people who two years ago couldn't tell you who Vladimir Putin is, much less find Russia on a map.

Russia's disinfo campaign has been well documented for years even before the 2016 Election even happened. When you rant about people not knowing who Vladimir Putin or finding Russia on a math, you're talking about yourself. You're not talking about the people who've been keeping abreast of the situation since 2014, 2015. That's why YOU find the stories about Russian collusion so incredulous. You yourself didn't know who the fuck Putin was, didn't know anything about Russia and now are incredulous that a country and leader that wasn't on your radar could've done such a thing as meddled in the presidential elections.

From 2014: Russia and the Menace of Unreality

After you've read that article, take your snide comment about conspiracy theorists and shove it up your ass.

R55 I have a MD and could easily get high priority status to emigrate to the UK/Australia/New Zealand and get a medical license. I do not want to work for the NHS, etc. I am looking at Spain as that country is affordable outside of the major cities. And as noted above, they are happy to have Americans with a means to support themselves come and live there and support the weak Spanish economy. I understand I would not be able to get a work visa, but I don't need one or want one.

He didn't beat Hillary. She had more overall votes and he had huge assists from the media, FBI and Russia. She was the one person he was most afraid to go up against.

Maxine Waters own party the dumbocrats is joining with the Trumptard party and attacking her. Nancy Peloshit is the worst thing that ever happened to the Dems. I'm moving out of this shithole country because my income follows me wherever I go. See you in Spain R53.

I’m Canadian and my family members who live in the US are relieved they can always come back if things get even worse.

R61 why don’t you want to work under NHS/socialized medicine? My ex husband is also MD and I’ve always been a 1% so I’ve been able to experience many countries for extended periods of time. Spain is nice.

I've been watching a show on Netflix called Escape to the Continent. It is about British couples wanting to move south because it is so much cheaper and it is their dream. There are several shows in Spain but there are other countries too. France, Greece, Portugal, etc. They usually tour 4 houses, show style of living, language, etc. It is very eye-opening and interesting. Most housing is $100,000 cheaper than it would be in Britain. And there's the charm factor. But the couples seem a little rattled by the end of it. The south of France one, the couple still wanted to move. It seems to be the language that seems to be a bit of a stumbling block. But give a couple episodes a try. If I were younger, I'd go.

R55 A few years ago I realized I was burnt out seeing patients. And I just don't see myself being able to adapt to a new system of practicing medicine after 2 decades practicing medicine in the US. Also I started a disability review consulting service and I enjoy that and it can be lucrative. I have travelled all over the world and have worked in Africa and South America with medical charity organizations. I have been to Spain many times and have always loved Seville ( I speak Spanish fluently). The Costa del Sol is also very affordable and another option.

R69 Unlike the British folks, I grew up in an American/Latino city - Los Angeles. I have lived and worked in Mexico and South America and speak Spanish fluently (in fact, I spent the summer before medical school studying Spanish in Sevilla.)

How many of us have stable, reliable jobs -- jobs that we'd want to do and could do for another few decades -- that have the potential to be 100% remote?

R71 I know, most do not have these opportunities. I am thankful that I loved to study and read, and got a scholarship to a good medical school, and dedicated approximately a decade to studying and working at the hospital, often working 100 hours a week. Now, twenty years later, I can reap some of the benefits for sacrificing my 20's to study and endless hospital rounds and overnight call. I can't even tell you what TV shows or music were popular during those years. Now in my late 40's I am ready to have some fun in Spain to make up for those difficult, lost years.

R61 I say go for it. It took me along time to realize that one day it will be my last.

OP is right. It's no use.

Thanks for the link R53. I'm within 6 years of retirement age and hoping to move outside the U.S. if not full time then at least for half of the year.

I went on a hiking/walking trip to Ireland earlier this year. It was cold and rained everyday and the walk took me through muddy farmers fields covered in sheep and cow shit. It was my worst vacation but when I came back to the U.S. and begin to catch up on the news which seems to be mostly related to politics lately I notice my stress/anxiety levels increased. The left vs the right arguments is getting old and I see it on the few blogs I visit and even at my local diner at breakfast.

I've been to Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Japan and Scotland and was planning a trip to Portugal but it looks like I need to add Spain to my bucket list.

R71, as it happens, I also work in health care, and do have a job that can be conducted remotely (via teletherapy). I also lived in Spain for several years (Madrid, not Sevilla), and have considered doing precisely what you have described, in the event that conditions worsen in the U.S.

I asked that question because this is not about me, or you -- it's about all of us. I was raised by fundamentalist evangelicals whose attitude was very much, "We got ours. Why should we care about those other people?" They thought that if others lived in poverty and desperation, it must be because they hadn't worked hard enough. I'm truly happy that you are finally able to enjoy yourself after decades of sacrifice -- I know from watching close friends and relatives exactly what is lost (sleep, family time, fun, friends, sex, love) when someone decides to become a doctor -- but it saddens me to see that kind of thinking here.

WRITE YOUR REPS AND SENATORS

VOTE!!!!

Vote republican!

I think if I "push back " at a MAGA like Maxine wants, i'll get shot and there will be one huge civil war.

You all will go to prison and be tortured for engaging in homo acts. Be prepared. Straights will have the right to bully and refuse to hire you.

They have that right now in 28 states

I have thought of moving to Central America somewhere. Costa Rica or Panama, maybe. I am hoping it won’t be necessary. Not Honduras or Guatemala, obviously.

And now the Supreme Court has killed unions.

Of course

Kagan roasts the majority

R82, Panama and Uruguay are being promoted heavily by International Living. In a few years, I’m hoping to be living on a sailboat cruising the Caribbean and taking on paying customers.

Who is going to pay to fuck your old hole?

And that put the final nail in the coffin. Bye, rights.

Trump is the most transformative president since FDR

Is this going to be another situation where people threaten to leave the country but no one ever does?

This is not a drill anymore

We have to save ourselves... there's no Messiah...just vote and protest.

But don't give up... don't you dare!

Unions can collect dues from non-union members? Thank you SC for stopping this racket

No one is coming to save us and the Democrats and people with common sense can't be arsed to vote

This is where being an elder gay becomes fortuitous. I may be old, but I'll also be dead within 25 years

R94 can i have ur stuff?

[R25] That's still too long. I can't imagine the hell we will be in, in 5 years. I wish I was an elder gay now.

I meant that above reply for [R94]

Unions Ollie to dues and engage in collective bargaining. Now you can get the benefit of that bargaining without paying dues. Does that seem fair to anyone?

The case was financed by another right wing billionaire who wanted to destroy what's left of unions. Unions used to be the backbone of the Democratic Party. Figured it out yet R 93? You seem kind of slow.

Unions collect dues.....

Should we just give up?

Now these billionaires are so powerful they can pretty much install whoever they want. And keep them their bitch. It's time for pitch forks and storming their castles. Tax their asses at 90% and confiscate 90% of their (stolen) wealth.

No, no one will save us. We have to save ourselves. Small, local units of resistance in Red states, blue walls in blue states. A Ho Chi Minh trail of resistance.

This is not even as bad as it's going to get. It's a process to break us emotionally. Each defeat weakens us. They know this. We take deep breaths and continue. Every vote matters, every gesture of resistance matters.

So, are some of the people on this thread thinking about moving to Spain or something?

Smells of a revolution.

[quote]So, are some of the people on this thread thinking about moving to Spain or something?

Fuck you bitch. I can't afford to relocate and I'm old, so staying to fight these cocksuckers.

R106:

What have you got against cocksucking?

So what are the safe blue states for now?

I'm in Virginia which used to be reliably red but has trending bluer and bluer over the past decade.

"No one is coming to save us."

Oh yeah, OP?

Eli's coming - hide your heart, gurl.

I'm an asshole and a skeptic, but I trust Mueller. Not one breath of scandal on his side during any of this (and you know Trump paid top dollar to his top guido to find some dirt), and not one leak on Mueller's team.

He's going to drop the hammer and when it happens, it will end Trump.

Hoping and praying you are correct, R110.

Exactly, OP. It's already over.

Most Americans woke up too late, if they have at all yet. THEY are " the people who allowed this to happen." THEY ignored years of data, and warnings by experts and activists. Fuck. Them. Fuck you braindead conformists who are to blame tor this nightmare.

Wow, in two years, we have gone from brave new world of progressive delight and bright future to a Dystopian despair and depression. Not voting is deadly.

That’s the ballgame. We might never win another civil rights victory in our lifetimes

“You can’t just hope for happy endings. You have to believe in them, then do the hard work and take the risks.”

“In this part of the Universe, which is known to us, often the wicked prosper while the good suffer and one hardly knows which is the more annoying.” - Bertrand RussellI

The GOP have STOLEN the White HOUSE....A SECOND Supreme Court seat....They have STOLEN our tax dollars to enrich MILLIONNAIRES (who coincidently own GOLF COURSES)....next GAYS, MUSLIMS, AND "undesirables" the GOP hates will be living in tent cities detainment centers....

Why are Democrats and Liberals so passive?

So, OP, what else is new?

They won. The rest of this century is theirs.

[quote]I'm an asshole and a skeptic, but I trust Mueller.

That's nice, but I wouldn't trust the new Supreme Court to answer the questions that will be directed to it if Mueller does indeed "drop the hammer" on Trump:

Does POTUS have to turn over evidence in a criminal probe, like the Nixon tapes? Must a POTUS testify before a grand jury? Can a POTUS be indicted?

The answers, of course, will be no, no and no -- by a 5-4 margin.

People need to remember the SC can rule itself into irrelevance if it doesn’t follow judicial protocols. They have to be able to actual substantiate a decision. Too many idiotic ones and they will lose all relevance.

Additionally, plenty of corporations support gay rghts. Nothing the SC does can stop that. The Republicans are dead set on tearing the country apart but to what end? Corporations still have power. States will become more powerful in making up for the feds’ deficiencies.

It will be ugly, there will be economic hardship, the country will become even more starkly and aggressively divided but the good news is, eventually all of the baby boomer will die. And the GOP will be over for good.

Resist, oppose, take action, don’t give up. This will end up like when the GOP tries to make policy: short-sighted, cruel and pointless. People will tire of it very quickly. Even the GOP likely doesn’t want to see a complete end to the culture wars. They’re not meant to end, they’re meant to be perpetuated.

Thomas might now retire just to spite Liberals. He has signaled he wants to step down. However, he probably wants to stay long enough to be part of the historic new Court that will overturn Roe and radically remake American society and jurisprudence for the rest of this century.

Why are Democrats so passive? Because they're too busy worrying about where transgender people pee. The Republicans are united on their core issues. Hell, even Evangelicals embrace a man as close to Satan as you can get. But Dems? Splinter City. Everybody's special and got their own agenda. I wish the Dems would focus on universal human rights like income equality, healthcare, education, and fair immigration laws. AND bring us a white male non-geezer, candidate in 2020 with governmental experience.

[quote] Additionally, plenty of corporations support gay rghts. Nothing the SC does can stop that. The Republicans are dead set on tearing the country apart but to what end? Corporations still have power.

R122, what I fear is that most people are secretly not at all supportive of gay rights and not at all comfortable with gay people. To the extent that it's considered the socially correct -- and, therefore, the profitable -- thing to do, sure, individuals and corporations will wave the rainbow flag. But if the tide turns, and that pressure disappears, I think their support will disappear.

Because the LGBTQQIAA2+etc. umbrella covers 30% of the population (the counter-cultural, the fashionably coiffed, straight people who think of themselves as kinky), it has been easy for us all to convince ourselves that we are a more powerful contingent than we really are.

But real gay men and lesbians will always be a very, very small segment of the population, and, consequently, a vulnerable one.

Yeah, the tide can quickly turn. Corporations only support gay rights because the culture changed to support it. Culture changed largely because homosexuality became minimally accepted or tolerated. At the same time, current polls show that support of gay rights is shallow, often shaky. There has already been a regression of people sayin they are comfortable seeing gay couples or same-sex romantic intimacy. Much of the support for gays is about civil rights or civic matters, and when it turns to actual same-sex intimacy, people become very queasy and uneasy. Court decisions and law can undo the cultural gains we have made as they set the standard that homosexuality is unacceptable, inferior, immoral. Many will follow the lead of conservative rule because they want to be on the winning team, including corporations and media.

Sometimes I wonder if Nancy is really working for the Republicans. She couldn't be weaker or less ineffective if she tried. The Democratic party might as well not exist under her "leadership." Her whispery shaky voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me now.

"what I fear is that most people are secretly not at all supportive of gay rights and not at all comfortable with gay people. To the extent that it's considered the socially correct -- and, therefore, the profitable -- thing to do, sure, individuals and corporations will wave the rainbow flag. But if the tide turns, and that pressure disappears, I think their support will disappear."

I disagree, I think that most people generally are accepting, or at the very least, tolerant of LGB. It is the T nonsense that has people pulling back on their support. And your average every day American really does not differentiate LGB from T, they think we are all one and the same. So, when T's demand access to women's spaces, insert themselves into women's sports teams and take away rewards, scholarships, etc., behave obnoxiously and violently, that all reflects on the rest of us.

Also, the left has either purposely or inadvertently made T the face of the Democratic party. So again, when people think LGBT, they really think T because that's what's shoved in their faces every day.

Pelosi is worse than ever

Pelosi is part of the non-opposition. So the future looks grim.

Pelosi is wonderful.

Says no one ever

Pelosi wrangled through the ACA which was no easy feat. Reid did it in the Senate. She is very tough- behind the scenes.

It is time for her to step down. And Schumer. We do need new leadership.

It is so much easier for conservatives. They are easy to rile up and their red meat is much more cut and dry. The Dems are a big tent party and have so many moderates ( the GOP has NONE lets be honest). It is NOT easy for any Dem to rile up the whole party without turning off a good chunk. We have to find the right strategy/right message and perfect issue. Silver lining- this SC opening has galvanized the right but it was like gasoline for the left. I have seen some wishy washy moderate Dems sit straight up with that happening and are now freaking out.

[quote]The Republicans are united on their core issues

United like when they passed an immigration bill, wall funding and Obamacare replacement?

“Save me, save me, be the light of my eye.”

Christmas Mouse will save us!

Right here in the middle of the country, homophobia and racism is alive and well. Transphobia too, to a lesser extent. Right wing evangelicals , at least here in Koch kookooLand ,hate homosexuals even more than abortion Drs. It's sickening but people here have decent education and make decent income, but are hateful and judge mental. Toss up as to which is worse,Catholics or Evangelicals. I knew Trump would win . The attitude here was Obama = Satan the antichrist. Even a number of black people voted for Trump.. To them, Obama wasn't really black..

Move, dude