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Was Abraham Lincoln gay?

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by Anonymousreply 52May 21, 2018 9:40 PM

Whatever. His hole wasn't that clean.

by Anonymousreply 1May 15, 2018 8:34 PM

Dear Lord in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 2May 15, 2018 8:35 PM

Here is a discussion about that.

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by Anonymousreply 3May 15, 2018 8:52 PM

Every, single male on earth is gay and women do not exist.

by Anonymousreply 4May 15, 2018 8:54 PM

Certainly not!

by Anonymousreply 5May 15, 2018 8:54 PM

Seeing that portrait of Joshua... i get it.

by Anonymousreply 6May 15, 2018 9:00 PM

This has been discussed TO DEATH by historians. We will never know, short of finding letters or something which make it clear he *was*. It's very unlikely we would ever find letters making it clear he was not.

by Anonymousreply 7May 15, 2018 9:02 PM

I thought there were some letters or journals

by Anonymousreply 8May 15, 2018 9:04 PM

Lying scoundrel! Absolutely not! Why.. Abe ate my pussy every night!

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by Anonymousreply 9May 15, 2018 9:06 PM

In the 19th Century, people did not think of their sexual behaviour as their identity. They had sex with this person or that person.

by Anonymousreply 10May 15, 2018 9:06 PM

When I was a kid, I thought he was Jewish. Obviously, I'm the wrong person to ask about his sexual preference.

Hey, I grew up in Brooklyn, not Jewish, but all the men I knew named Abraham were.

by Anonymousreply 11May 15, 2018 9:13 PM

Not sure, since sexual orientations were not defined in the culture at that time, but I'm sure his predecessor James Buchanan was gay.

by Anonymousreply 12May 15, 2018 9:21 PM

[quote] It's very unlikely we would ever find letters making it clear he was not.

Dearest Robert,

The feelings you describe toward your roommate at Harvard, while I’m confident they spring from noble foundations, certainly go beyond what I consider suitable or healthy. You must tell him to cease his unsound importuning at once or you will be compelled to consult the Dean about new quarters. Having never been to Paris, I cannot comment on whether or not the French consider such relationships to be “perfectly normal.” I cannot even begin to imagine what you might infer from his stated desire to “go up into” you, but it sounds disgusting and unnatural.

Tad sends his devoted love and, as for your Dear Mother, well . . . What can I say?

by Anonymousreply 13May 15, 2018 9:21 PM

Mary, dear, that wreath of flowers is so becoming, did you just win the Kentucky Derby?

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by Anonymousreply 14May 15, 2018 9:26 PM

He would have been what we call a "man lover." The letters he wrote to his dear friend were definitely scandalous.

He married because that's what was expected of him. People need to understand that homosexual men stilled married women in those times because men were groomed to marry and have children.

by Anonymousreply 15May 15, 2018 9:27 PM

R13, so are we to infer from this Lincoln letter that his son Robert was a demanding bottom? I find this hard to believe. I would think that the son of the president would be a vulgar, nasty top.

by Anonymousreply 16May 15, 2018 10:38 PM

[quote]“a streak of lavender, and spots soft as May violets.”

YASSS KAWEEN!

by Anonymousreply 17May 15, 2018 11:10 PM

Oh, bullshit R10. Not in America, or we wouldn't still be fighting to be recognized as people. It was unthinkable to some people back then. Which is why we have to only guess Lincoln was and don't know for sure.

by Anonymousreply 18May 15, 2018 11:19 PM

Power Top. Totally masc!

by Anonymousreply 19May 15, 2018 11:24 PM

There's no real evidence that Lincoln was gay, just a lot of very silly, outlandish speculation and unsubstantiated gossip.

by Anonymousreply 20May 15, 2018 11:24 PM

R18 Actually, there was a lot of same-sex sex occurring. It just wasn't seen as being an identity, because sex of any sort wasn't spoken about. Read the letters of South Carolina Governor, Senator, and Congressman James H. Hammond and his lover he met at South Carolina College (now the University of South Carolina) interestingly it wasn't his homosexual relationship, that led to the end of his political career, but a scandal that involved him and his four nieces. It really wasn't until FDR made a huge deal out of sailors frequenting the Art Club and YMCA in Newport, R.I., when he was the assistant Secretary of the Navy in 1919, that there was a true gay panic in this country.

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by Anonymousreply 21May 15, 2018 11:33 PM

Was he gay?

I dunno, dahling. He nevah sucked my top hat!

by Anonymousreply 22May 15, 2018 11:35 PM

There was a tree full of parrots, a birthday tablecloth and an Ungaro frock underneath that top hat.

by Anonymousreply 23May 15, 2018 11:51 PM

He was a big ol homo. Loved rimming men.

by Anonymousreply 24May 16, 2018 11:15 AM

The original American BDF

by Anonymousreply 25May 16, 2018 11:23 AM

Use a poll

by Anonymousreply 26May 16, 2018 12:19 PM

He had some kind of disease. Freeing blacks led to a lot of rape and murder. Bill Cosby,oj, Michael jackson

by Anonymousreply 27May 16, 2018 12:31 PM

He used to beat the shit out of his wife.

by Anonymousreply 28May 16, 2018 12:38 PM

He was so ugly he had to marry a crazy woman to get a fuck

by Anonymousreply 29May 16, 2018 2:01 PM

And to think Lincoln is the republicans original ronald reagan.

by Anonymousreply 30May 16, 2018 2:09 PM

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by Anonymousreply 31May 16, 2018 2:31 PM

r29 Modern historians think that Mary was not crazy and Abe and Rob put her in institutions to shut her up.

by Anonymousreply 32May 16, 2018 2:35 PM

He was a vampire hunter.

by Anonymousreply 33May 16, 2018 3:02 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 34May 19, 2018 7:51 AM

Lincoln was one of the Best. Gay or not. Brilliant and soulful man who had a challenging life but rose above all adversity.

by Anonymousreply 35May 19, 2018 8:02 AM

POZ FACE!!!

by Anonymousreply 36May 19, 2018 8:17 AM

Based on OP’s pic, he really needed to moisturize.

by Anonymousreply 37May 19, 2018 10:54 AM

Of course he was gay. Yes, they didn’t use the word “gay” in those days, but so what? It would make a world of difference to gaylings all over the country if historians could just come out and say it: One of the best presidents was gay.

No “straight” man of his day or now would rhapsodize of his lover’s thighs! Thats because he wasn’t straight. He was gay.

by Anonymousreply 38May 19, 2018 11:26 AM

[quote]Every, single male on earth is gay and women do not exist.

"Every single good person is straight or bisexual and all evil people are secretly gay. Therefore anyone who does anything good cannot be a gay man." God forbid anyone bad be compared to me."

by Anonymousreply 39May 19, 2018 1:22 PM

[quote] Modern historians think that Mary was not crazy and Abe and Rob put her in institutions to shut her up.

Nice try, tranny revisionist.

by Anonymousreply 40May 19, 2018 1:27 PM

[quote] Lincoln was one of the Best. Gay or not. Brilliant and soulful man who had a challenging life but rose above all adversity.

Who wanted to ship the coloreds back to Africa.

by Anonymousreply 41May 19, 2018 1:28 PM

I’m no historian, but is it possible that many African Americans at that time might’ve wanted to return to their homeland?

by Anonymousreply 42May 19, 2018 1:54 PM

All hail Marcus Garvey!

by Anonymousreply 43May 19, 2018 1:58 PM

C.A. Tripp wrote an entire book arguing that he was gay, or at least bisexual.

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by Anonymousreply 44May 19, 2018 2:41 PM

Did Mary Todd's pussy stink?

by Anonymousreply 45May 21, 2018 5:34 PM

It really was so different back then, I think he had had more than one male lover. He was extremely intelligent, he did not live by other peoples mores. Sorry I spelled that wrong.

by Anonymousreply 46May 21, 2018 5:41 PM

Lincoln was a pretty large guy and Mary looked tiny. Maybe they did not fit that well?

by Anonymousreply 47May 21, 2018 5:42 PM

Well, personally, I think that if no one gives a shit about bisexual dolphins and lesbian seagulls, then no one should care about gay/bi sexual humans!

by Anonymousreply 48May 21, 2018 5:50 PM

Josh got that lanky stovepipe nightly for years.

Abe died while watching a play. The Original Theatre Queen.

by Anonymousreply 49May 21, 2018 6:07 PM

Poor Lincoln. President during one of the worst periods in American history. Married to a crazy woman. Sons all dying off like flies. And yet he was an outstanding leader. What a remarkable man.

by Anonymousreply 50May 21, 2018 9:23 PM

Honey, let's just say he was very focused on picking out the flamingo-shaped napkins , if you know what I mean.

by Anonymousreply 51May 21, 2018 9:35 PM
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by Anonymousreply 52May 21, 2018 9:40 PM
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