Does the movie Crash (2004) still hold up today?

It was always terrible.

How can a movie that was never good "hold up"?

It was a dumb film the first time I (unfortunately) paid to see it in theaters.

I will say both Matt Dillon and Don Cheadle gave great performances.

The director of "Crash" was embarrassed his movie won best picture. Definitely a mistake the academy will never live down.

I've refused to watch the movie. Partly because it looks like a manipulative piece of shit, but mostly because it won the Oscar instead of BBM. I wouldn't let the Oscar thing bother me if the movie really was something I might enjoy but since I highly doubt it (I've watched maybe ten minutes of it) I just keep on hating the whole thing as a reminder of Hollywood homophobia.

R4 I'm sure he didn't feel the same way in 2006.

Is there anyone out there that thought this movie was good? I'm curious.

[quote]Is there anyone out there that thought this movie was good? I'm curious.

It got fairly positive reviews, but it literally got the worst reviews out of all five movies nominated for Best Picture that year.

How the hell could anyone think this is a better movie than Brokeback Mountain? Unless you just hate gay people.

Not that this matters, but R7's post prompted me to look both Crash and Brokeback up on IMDB to see the ratings. Crash scores a 7.8, Brokeback a 7.7.

I would have predicted Crash's score a lot lower, (7,2?), and Brokeback's higher, at least in the 8's. Make of it what you will.

The movie Crash (2004) wouldn't even hold up in 1992.

I preferred 1996's Crash directed by David Cronenberg and starring Holly Hunter. Amazing that a movie about a sexual fetish did as well as that one.

IMDB sucks. Look at the RT ratings.

Imdb tells you the opinion of young straight white guys.

Roger Ebert loved Crash

It was a cliche-ridden, heaping pile of crap. I can't believe Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars.

Jinx, R15!

The car fire scene was gut-wrenching.

It seems like the majority of Oscar nominated films and performances are about acceptance and have some sort of "rooting for the underdog" type theme. The Oscars are never really based on good film making. A lot of people hated "Shape of Water" for the same reason of it being too preachy or "too Hollywood."

R19 Then I guess No Country For Old Men would definitely be considered in the minority. I didn't really care for it though. Film making-wise it was brilliant, but it left me cold and although I can be a fan of ambiguous endings, not so much of Men.

No Country was the rare movie I actually saw in theaters. And I had no idea what it was about. I never read a synopsis, I never saw a trailer. Never spoke to anyone about it. I didn’t even know it was a Coen Brothers movie. I only saw a piece of a commercial, and something about the image of Bardem (whose name I didn’t know at the time) as Anton Chigur stuck and compelled me to drag a friend to see it. He just looked so evil, like a version of Michael Myers who talked. Had no idea how apt that comparison would prove to be.

My eyes were glued to the screen. From the moment it ended, I knew I’d just watched one of the greatest films ever made. Completely blew me away. I’ve watched it at least once a year ever since.

[quote]How the hell could anyone think this is a better movie than Brokeback Mountain?

Lack of death by tire iron wins it every time.

[quote]How the hell could anyone think this is a better movie than Brokeback Mountain?

Matt Dillon and Ryan Phillippe as scene partners in Crash.

Matt Dillon, Ryan Phillippe, and Loretta Devine as scene partners in Crash. That is one of the trifectas of my moviegoing career. There are hardly three actors I've liked more, and when the fuck are they ever going to be in something together again?

Jake Gyllenhaal was aal BBM had to offer me. And they killed him off. It was really no contest for me.

they would have voted for anything other than BBM.

But CMBYN won adapted screenplay. that's progress, I guess.

Still, I would have done with Heath over Phillip. Heath's character was so tragic.

He did a great job.

Jake Gyllenhaal was all it had to offer you? What’re you, fucking nuts? You took nothing from Heath Ledger? And he died at the very end—you had a whole fucking movie with Jack, it’s not like he died after the first act.

They killed his character with a tire iron, Fuckface Von R25. Not an ending I was happy with AT ALL. And Heath Ledger was one of the most boring actors in existence. He should have been an accountant. Or a pig farmer, like some guy we were looking at here the other day.

I did not like Heath Ledger in his role as the Joker.

I did not see Heath Ledger in his role as the Joker. I don't go to comic book movies. Or even watch them at home. Especially when they have Heath Ledger in them.

You’ve never seen any Batman movie, including the Dark Knight trilogy? What an insufferable prick.

I've always believed that Crash won because Munich, BBM, and Capote split the vote.

It won by plurality, not majority of the vote that year.

r29 You go to comic book movies? And you're making fun of anyone else on the planet?

R30, no, Crash won because of homophobia. That was confirmed when it was revealed that many older Academy voters refused to even watch Brokeback Mountain.

[QUOTE]You go to comic book movies? And you're making fun of anyone else on the planet?

Some of the best movies released over the past decade have been “comic book movies.”

I did love all three movie but probably Crash the least. Anyway, racism is still front and center...so it seems like it would still fit in 2018.

[quote]I've always believed that Crash won because Munich, BBM, and Capote split the vote.

No love for "Good Night, and Good Luck"? I thought it was a great little movie.

Heath was terrific in Brokeback, how in the hell do you not see that? When Jack finally shows up and Ennis runs down to greet him, that is the best kiss I have ever seen on screen.

There has been so much controversy in the past year that it would definitely be a different "Crash" if it were made today.

[quote] no, Crash won because of homophobia. That was confirmed when it was revealed that many older Academy voters refused to even watch Brokeback Mountain.

Hysterical proclamations don't make facts - and they certainly don't supplant basic math.

And even if one were to accept your premise, it certainly doesn't preclude my position that Crash won a plurality, not majority, due to other movies splitting the vote.

[quote]Heath was terrific in Brokeback, how in the hell do you not see that?

Because he was blond and boring. But thank you for asking, run-on sentence queen. I might ask why you care so much what I think. Do you lose your shit like this every time someone fails to see things your way?

People were giving BBM bad ratings on IMDB at the time to make its rating lower.

I wasn't, r40. I didn't like the movie, but I doubt I gave it any rating anywhere.

R40 wasn’t even in reference to you. The whole world doesn’t revolve around you, cunt!

Finally, r42.

[quote]It was a cliche-ridden, heaping pile of crap.

[quote]Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars.

Those two statements support each other perfectly

[quote]It was a cliche-ridden, heaping pile of crap.

Yes, a movie in which a gay guy gets killed in the end is a "cliche-ridden, heaping pile of crap." Even crappier when a tire iron is used in the hate crime.

Timee & Armie > Jake & Heath

R38, it’s not a hysterical proclamation that many Oscar voters opted not to watch Brokeback Mountain because of the content. There are articles and interviews where that was confirmed. Do you not remember Tony Curtis? Even Clint Eastwood, who has more credibility than Curtis, didn’t watch it.

[quote][R38], it’s not a hysterical proclamation that many Oscar voters opted not to watch Brokeback Mountain because of the content. There are articles and interviews where that was confirmed. Do you not remember Tony Curtis? Even Clint Eastwood, who has more credibility than Curtis, didn’t watch it.

So, you wholly unproven contention is that, except for homophobia, BBM would have won the Oscar.

Unlikely. The other three movies were all reasonably strong contenders that year - which supports why I think Crash won - they split the vote.

BBM was a good movie, but was not far and away the best movie that year. It certainly deserved a nomination. Ang Lee certainly deserved the Director award. Ledger turned in an excellent performance. But, the movie was hampered by Gyllenhal and AnnE, who both did solid work, but not stellar.

awww, I love Jake in that movie. He's the one who breaks my heart actually. That shot as he is driving away was powerful.

Quote Some of the best movies released over the past decade have been “comic book movies.”

A sad commentary indeed. I can’t wait for the nerd/teenage boy thing to go out of fashion. My fear is that they (and their female equivalent reality shows) are here to stay.

Crash was a inferior variation on the much better 1991 film, Grand Canyon. I recall being suprised when it was nominated for best picture and horrified when it won.

Huh? Why the clouds?

Back when it won Best Picture and there was a lot of bitterness here from people who loved Brokeback Mountain, we had a hilarious Crash troll who would shitpost in breathless prose about how it was the best movie ever made. It was like the Chick-fil-A Shill meets Butterfly's Honey.

I wasn’t around here back then, but I never would’ve expected it to win Best Picture.

I should say, I never would’ve expected Brokeback Mountain to win Best Picture, even if it was obviously the best choice.

It didn't "hold up" when it came up, much less "today." Terrible movie.