Semenya, female runner with extra testosterone, wipes out competition at Commonwealth

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Yes, but can she rock an Ateleir Versace frock like me?

Cause that's what determines who's a woman.

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Dishonest

They threw women under the bus

The Guardian and the rest of the media can still not write about it honestly. Boycott them.

She is more than just a " female runner with extra testosterone". She is a biological male, with undescended testicles.

Did you see in the comments.... The "Guardian Community Moderator" said:

"Comments on this thread were opened in error and will soon close."

r5 I don't agree with the boycott, but they are being political about this and not reporting the facts. The only reason for it is her medical test results were leaked to the media initially. That was wrong, but if they are now reporting on her using medical diagnoses, then they need to be honest.

Other sports are using testosterone levels as the criterion for assigning gender categories. There is NO reason why any event or body shouldn't do the same.

I would expect a greater sense of sportsMANship.

Dumb complaint. Many different ethic groups are predisposed to certain things based on genetics. This is no different, just more specific to her alone. Get over it

I don’t get it. Seems unfair to eliminate someone who was born with a physiological advantage. That’s called, in other instances, having a knack for something. What’s next? Eliminating basketball players who happen to naturally grow up to heights that are off the charts ? Denying a recording contract to someone whose vocal chords, ears, nose and throat placement give them perfect pitch and an amazing lung capacity?

It’s called talent because you are born with it, people! Testosterone is no different.

Can journalists report actual FACTS about transgenderism?

Does this athlete have male sex organs? Penis? Testicles? All of the above?

Does this athlete have "ambiguous" genitalia and a medical diagnosis of "intersex"? If not, does that not make this athlete NOT female?

Is this athlete a genetic female? XX?

This person should not be in a category with females bodies, female athletes

And if you do not give a shit about this, gay men are next as trans as pushed as acceptable over gay.

R11, if you were talking about a woman who was producing higher than average amounts of testosterone from her ovaries, I would agree. But Semenya's natural testosterone levels are much higher than those that can be produced by ovaries in any conditions. This suggests that she has internal testes. She is intersex. I don't think it's fair for her compete in the female league under these circumstances.

r14 is right.

This is widely accepted in other sports organizations. If I were the female athletes, I'd file a class action lawsuit against the IAAF for allowing her to compete. It's unfortunate that she has to be in the middle of this, it must be hard for her, but this is getting out of hand.

This person was just a test case. The Olympics said they would let men compete in women's events.

Caster Semenya is not transgender; she is intersex. She comes from a village in which this condition is fairly common. Her external genitalia is female, and I assume that if she were actually XY this fact would have been leaked, as other medical information about her has been leaked.

Didn't she undergo all kinds of tests years ago, when this controversy first started? Biologically, she's a female, per their definition, i.e. with female genitalia and IOC can't do much else.

Has Miss Swan commented yet?

r17 People with her conditions tend to have undescended testicles (which they must remove) and XY chromosomes:

[quote]"They usually find out because their period doesn't start. They do not have a uterus: the vagina ends blind. They have testicles in the abdomen which must be removed or they can become cancerous.Apart from the fact that they can't bear children, they are completely female." Yet these women have XY chromosomes. If sex testing were limited to chromosomes, they would be declared male.

I thought IOC does gender chromosome-based testing these days? Weren't some "female" athletes disqualified in Rio since they failed that test?

The political push is so big, all science, sports, fairness must be thrown out the window

R21, all competitive sports organizations should; it would decide and settle the transgender issue. It's not about hate, it's about unfair advantage based on genetic development. Males will develop the lung, heart and musculoskeletal benefits of being male and therefore, ought not to be on a female team. But they know that; it's winning, even when they know they have an unfair advantage, because you're not seeing many cases of women trying to enter competitions as men.

Semen, ya!

Semenya will retire because otherwise the advantage from the unnaturally high level of testosterone will become too apparent and they won't be able to deny that the wins were through cheating because "she" would have lost every race against the male competitors "she" was supposed to be competing with all along.

A similar case happend in the 1960s in austria were it was discovered that "female" skier Erika Schinegger is a bio male raised as a girl because his genitals were grown inside. It's actually surprising that he managed to pass for so long because even as a "female" he look like a guy in cheap drag.

r26 That guy looks all the way male. He probably had a normal male pubescence, at least as far as hormones are concerned.

Semenya's face at least has a subtle feminine quality to it (I'm not defending her, by the way).

The person at R26 now lives as a male

Semenya's face has a feminine quality? The only thing feminine that I see is the lack of a hardy beard.

I hate how no one is allowed to say the truth.

Why is it like that all the time now?

Erik Schinegger was able to father a child after learning he was male.

Semenya is a great name for a woman with extra testosterone.

The Guardian, protecting and promoting its fetish.

You can't fool me, R26. That's Harry Styles.

A career as a professional athlete isn’t a right and no one is being deprived of their rights if they aren’t able to compete on a national or international level. She and other intersex female athletes are being given options, rather than banned outright. For now that is the fairest scenario.