Gypsies/Romani

Scams

So many in California.

There's a panhandler I think is Romani in WeHo. He asks everyone for a dollar and morons give him money. He's in his mid-20s and able-bodied. I hate walking past him.

Twenty years ago, I read a book called Bury Me Standing" which was about Roma life in Europe after WWII. Fascinating. The bigotry they faced varied from country to country. So, I asked two European co-workers about their experiences inre Roma. Both insisted that these were people who could never be trusted, were filthy and backward.

I don't think any group in the U.S. pickpockets quite like that.

Aren't they like hobos? they live in hobo jungles.

I think they're marvelous! Such style! Such grace!

Romanian gipsy gang 'snatched 200 children from homes to use them as beggars'

A gang of Romanian gipsy child-snatchers stole almost 200 poor children from their families and brought them to Britain to pick pockets, a court heard

They have been known to throw a baby at people as a diversion to steal their handbags, wallets, etc.

I love gypsy cock,I had both spanish and romanian cock in barcelona.

Hilarious

I wonder if Romanians get tired of being mistaken for Romani.

R10 Sizemeat verificatia please. Natural or tampered with?

Their weddings are tasteful affairs. Watch some tonight.

Travelers in South Carolina

Stay far away from them.

Yuck.

My dad fell for their driveway paving scam. My mom fell for the "I have a crippled child here's his picture" scam. I was so disgusted by the "can you lend me$5 for gas, I'll mail it back to you" scam that I actually haveo the jerk $5 and said "whatever." I regret that.

Judge for yourself:

Hitler persecuted them 75 years ago, so we have to be nice to them regardless of what they're like.

They stink... seriously.

My great, great grandfather was a fair skinned African American. As a young man he had disagreements with his step-father and ran off with the gypsies who wandered through Va & Tennesse. Because of his skin color, no Southern whites suspected him of not being Roma. He eventually moved North, but he fondly remembered his teen wanderings as a gypsy.

I knew Bulgarians who were terrified of them. Terrified of being hypnotized and ambushed. I’m not kidding.

The baby-throwing thing is terrible. What should you do if you’re tossed a baby, let it drop so you don’t lose your wallet?

This is why European tourist sights suck.

Sites

Go to Prague, OP. Your money will go far.

But every night all the men would come around And lay their money down...

Oh, they're in the US, too. And I'm sure a great many of them are perfectly respectable. But like every other group/nationality/whatever, some are crooks. In the US the crooked ones are notorious for home improvement scams and shaking down elderly homeowners. A classic gypsy scam is the cheap asphalt driveway resurfacing offer - they've just come from a job, they have plenty of leftover sealant, they'll cut you a deal. But the sealant is just used motor oil and after they've applied it, they get in your face and demand more money. Then, next time it rains and your new 'sealant' runs off, you realize you've been doubly scammed.

Another one: they see an elderly person out in their yard, so they come up and start spielin' - could be asking directions, or selling fake magazines subscriptions, whatever. And while the elderly homeowner is talking with him, his accomplice sneaks into the house and robs it.

And after major storm events, the fake home repair contractor scammers swarm the damaged neighborhoods, taking down payments for contracting jobs that they'll either never return to do, or will do half-assed and half-done before demanding even more money than agreed upon.

And what they're best known for is the psychic fraud - you're cursed, give me your money, we'll bless it and remove the curse. Endless variations.

Joe Gore's was a mystery writer whose previous career was working for a repo company. He got to know the local gypsy scams very, very well and incorporated them into his novels. His novel "32 Cadillacs" is based on an actual scam a group managed to pull off years previously, swindling a bunch of car dealerships in the region out of new cars over a couple of days. The book is a hilarious read.

[quote]R3 There's a panhandler I think is Romani in WeHo. He asks everyone for a dollar and morons give him money. He's in his mid-20s and able-bodied. I hate walking past him.

You could ask him out, and get to know him better.

Maybe improve his life by giving career advice.

All I know is it's not politically correct to use the term "gypped" anymore when describing how someone was conned or tricked; it's based on the word 'gypsy' and is offensive to Romanis and their culture. Seriously, a young SJW berated me about this.

I heard that in 2001, R30. I still say "gypped."

There are gypsies in the US. They call themselves Travelers. The closest ones to my area are in a town called Murphy Village in SC. When the weather gets warm, they hit the road and try to scam people into letting them retar their driveways and patch their roofs.

They're pretty aggressive. My husband had to run some off years ago, when we lived in town. They howled like hit dogs at a few harsh words. It's obvious that they are used to taking advantage of people who don't know any better or who aren't able to stand up to them.

The sheriff in my county just sends a deputy out after them now.

There was a news story where they collected money up front to replace a sliding glass door. They tore out the old one, left a huge whole, then never returned with the replacement.

A woman from Bosnia that I worked with would always crack jokes about them. How does a Roma teach his male child how to put on underwear? Yellow in the front, brown in the back.

[quote] left a huge whole

Travelers have the same lifestyle...everything is a scam.

Two Roma women tried to steal my great uncle's real estate - absolute truth

Bob Hoskins was part Romaní. I was shocked to find out.

Alexandra Moltke made the documentary film "Porraimos: Europe's Gypsies in the Holocaust" about 15 years ago. Has anyone seen it?

They are of Indian heritage. Enough said.

They were so dodgy, the rest of India kicked them out.

That's some great heritage!

They are a plague all over Western Europe in summer. As long as they steal only from tourists, the local cops turn a blind eye, do nothing.

Famous gypsies: Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Charlie Chaplin, Andrea Pirlo, Eric Cantona, Helen Mirren, Tracy Ullman, Ilie Nastase,

German famous: rapper Sido

[quote]But like every other group/nationality/whatever, some are crooks.

No, they're not like "every other group/nationality/whatever". Stop trying to make false equivalencies.

Irish travellers are just as bad, they’re also even worse when it comes to the driveway and tarmacing scams.

I want to like th but they are one of those communities who make it very hard for the rest of us to like.

Irish gypsies

Mirren said in some interview "I have perhaps a splash of Gypsy blood". Not a gypsy.

On one of those reality show, a traveller girl was in a girls' pageant. Her father built her a trailer so she wouldn't have to mingle with the gadje. When you announce that you think the majority is unclean, what do you expect them to think about you?

They love it when bleeding heart SJWs defend them as a persecuted culture. That’s what they want. They’re sticking their hands in your pocket as you’re launching a passionate defense of their virtue.

Everyone who’s not in their clan is a mark. Everyone.

This is one group of people who definitely should have been exterminated.

Helen Mirren's father was Russian; her family's name was originally "Mironoff". She is not Romani.

Tracey Ullman's mother is of Romani descent.

Phipps is a great big bunch of Romani!

Is this thread from 1948?

According to Lucille Esmeralda McGillicuddy Ricardo, Phipps Department store employs a lot of them.

The newscaster at r11 sounds like a major cunt.

Avoid them. Horrid people.

It's not racist to state the simple truth - theft and chicanery are a fundamental part of their culture. They're taught from birth that non-roma are scum and it's their duty to steal from them.

I ran into them in Paris and Rome - the moment they hear English they're on you like a pack of dogs.

HIGHLY skilled pickpockets. The odd little guy in Naples stole a map out of my pocket in a 20-second encounter.

R57, that's awful. They're so gross. I'll never go anywhere they congregate. Ugh.

We have lots of them in Slovenia (though not quite as much as other Eastern European countries). They are living in two different regions here - gypsies from the northeastern part of the country are perfectly civilized people, getting along well with their neighbours and famous for being good musicians. But the other group is nothing but a bunch of thieves and murderers, living in some sort of shanty towns or camping in the forests. And apparently they like it that way - in one town the mayor built them brand new homes totally free of charge but the gypsies decided to wreck those houses apart and use them as stables for their animals while they continued to live in their tents in the front yard. And whenever someone calls them out for their dirty deeds they quickly accuse everyone of being racist and intolerant and they have many clueless organizations (like the local branch of Amnesty International) on their side.

And they also like to hide non-gyspy criminals on the run among them. My mom is a teacher and she's teaching an 8-year old boy this year who lives with his mom in a safe house. They're both hiding from the boy's father who's wanted on god knows how many different charges by the police. The police can't trace him, but they do know that the gypsies are hiding him. Unfortunately different Romani clans there are so well connected that whenever they feel like the police may pay them a little visit they quickly send the wanted people from their group to live with some other gypsy family until the danger passes.

They're disgusting. Why do countries tolerate them? R59, I'm never giving to Amnesty International again. Awful people.

I was in Lisbon recently and the locals there told me about the new kind of gypsy pickpockets they have there: "the day-trippers". Plane tickets across Europe are so cheap nowadays that a group of different gypsys flies into Lisbon every morning in the summer, where they spend the day pickpocketing people on the crowded buses and trams, and in the evening they simply hop on the plane again and fly back home to Romania. It's quite genius, actually.

They are a remarkable, adaptable people who reject the notion of the Nation-State. If you love freedom, you are part Romani. I hope they come to our country.

Tacky wedding dresses and big hair.

I was standing near Sacre Coeur in Paris. It was early in the morning. And the Roma ladies were all arriving. And it was just like the linked cartoon. At the appointed hour, they all sat down on the ground and adopted a pathetic face with their hands outstretched. But before that, they were laughing and joking with each other.

Its pretty amazing how much they have retained Indian values, habits, and style over the centuries.

I went to high school (gymnasium) with a Roma girl in Sweden. Her name was Serap; everybody called her "Senap" (mustard). We became friends and she said that she was mortified that her mother and aunts would go into the supermarket and steal everything they could. They lived in public housing. She invited my to their apartment for dinner one time. It was lovely -- such adoration and love in their home. There were five other kids, but I think she was the only one who went to school regularly. They said that they were from Bulgaria, but escaped through Turkey in the 1970's during a government crackdown on Roma.

They were curious about America and peppered me with questions all evening. My Swedish host family was aghast that I went to dinner with Gypsies and thereafter were suspicious of any of my friends and did not allow me to invite them into the house. This was 35 years ago. I often wonder whatever came of Mustard and her family. A few years ago I was Gypsy women sitting on the sidewalk outside the Vatican rocking babies in their laps begging for money and wondered if Serap was among them.

Here in Los Angeles there are a couple of gypsy families that are always stationed outside Ralph's market or Rite Aid with their signs begging for money. There is always one or two pathetic looking kids with them. Kids that are school age but clearly not in school. The cops run them off but they show up a few days later at Trader Joe's or Target.

Unfortunately you have to be physically and verbally aggressive with them, which often scares the hell out of them.

Aside from the element of surprise, they take advantage of people's better breeding. But like any socially less fortunate and criminal element, they are basically cowards.

Is there any historical crossover between the Irish Travellers and the Roma? Apart from the obvious ethnic differences, they seem to have a lot in common.

R69: I remember watching an old documentary about Irish travellers in the U.K., one of the guys that they interviewed said his wife was of Romani Gypsy descent.

And of course there's a reality show...

I've seen the gypsy wedding show. Yucky.

Phun Romani Phacts:

Romani language was a big influence on Polari, a pidgin language that gave us many gay terms (eg. drag, trade).

The “patron saint” of the Romani is Kali Sara. Her origins are not understood completely. Her cult statue is in France. While purportedly Christain, her name, dark skin, and annual procession to open water where the statue is immersed suggest that she is a syncretic version of the Hindu goddess Kali.

Romanian guys will do anything for money

^Except seek legitimate employment.

[quote]Famous gypsies: Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Charlie Chaplin, Andrea Pirlo, Eric Cantona, Helen Mirren, Tracy Ullman, Ilie Nastase,

Natalie Wood

Laura Benanti

Cynthia Gibb

Sandra Church

Tammy Blanchard

Crista Moore

Zan Charisse

[quote]According to Lucille Esmeralda McGillicuddy Ricardo, Phipps Department store employs a lot of them.

She should know. Bitch was their QUEEN!

Tasteful friends, what do we think about this huge donkey Gypsy cock from the Czech Republic? I wouldn't mind getting pickpocketed in order to sample a cock like this, I can tell you that.

R74 Very few of the Romanian guys on chaturbate are actually gypsies. Gypsies represent only 3 % of Romania's population (which still means there's well over half a million of them living there) so Romanians often get annoyed when others automatically think of their country as the land of gypsies.

This thread needs a good gypsy soundtrack!

R69 there is no relation between Irish/British travelers and the Roma people. DNA tests have found that Irish Travellers are a genetically distinct subpopulation of Irish - they have been genetically distinct for over 1000 years. Many Irish travellers speak Shelta/the Cant - a distinct language formed from a mix of Celtic/Germanic/English.

Irish and British travellers do not make a living engaging in petty crime/theft as do the Romani. They breed dogs and horses, salvage and sell scrap metal and work in farms/other types of labor.

There are many organizations involved in improving access to education and medical care and in the UK they are a protected minority class.

There were always Gypsys roaming through New England in the old days; they would set up camp in a vacant area that was near a major road, and their business was repairing metalware, roofing etc. In fact rumor has it that a local dialect in the city of Newton called "Lake Talk" is based on words from the Romani language.

r78 Why would you think that guy is a Gypsy? He looks more Dominican or Latin American than anything else.

R79, I started playing the video in your link and my dog ran out of the room. Interesting music.

[quote] Why would you think that guy is a Gypsy? He looks more Dominican or Latin American than anything else

Because:

a) he has classic gypsy facial features (which isn't really obvious in that gif)

b) in the original video he's speaking in Czech language with some gypsy words thrown in it

I'm pretty sure he's got some more "exotic" blood in him, but I doubt he's part-latin. There are practically no people from South America living in Czech Republic.

Once while out weeding my yard a group of them were driving around. A guy offered to fix a dent in my station car. I retorted "Actually I'm more interested in a psychic reading". Gotcha!

I've posted this before in other threads about Gypsies, but because it bears repeating, I'll post it here again.

Gypsies hold deeply antisocial cultural values: stealing from and cheating Gadjes is considered normal and appropriate.

They are also the original traffickers in every form of contraband, including humans. My grandmother's sister, who was blonde and blue-eyed, was snatched from her family's farm in Austria by gypsies when she was about five. (This would have been around 1910.) The family immediately suspected what had happened, chased the Gypsies down and pulled her out of their wagon.

They are distrusted for very good reasons.

I did find a book of Gypsy spells decades ago and I have to say a few of them actually worked in desperate times over the years. Nothing like the Fung Shui ones, though. Normally I don't believe in crap like that but at times you just have to put a wish out to the Universe when you're feeling hopeless.

One is lighting a blue candle and holding sick cat in lap. Pet the cat and ask for a spirit vet to work through your hands. Imagine colors of rainbow emanating from your palms, streaming into cat. Thank spirit vet. Say

Kitten scrap scrabble scrap

Then kiss cat to seal spell.

If you can't afford a vet right away go to an aquarium supply online site and purchase fish antibiotic capsules. Look up the amount of water to mix it with online figuring your pet's weight. Store liquid in fridge in dropper bottle. Carefully research which antibiotic to purchase. It's less than $10 including shipping.

Then do a money spell and research a low cost vet clinic in your area.

If they bring back their old gypsy caravans, they can stay. Those things are so cool. Some of them are stacked with old stoves and everything.

The Romani do mostly low-level grifting and scamming. If they were really evil, they would work on adapting to the society around them and getting MBAs.

They can't because wanderlust.

In "God's Own Country," the Yorkshire lad Johnny, called Gheorghe (the Romanian migrant worker) "Gypo" as an insult, and got fucked up over it.

The late Frank Buis of the Royal Press Amsterdam was famous for documenting criminal activity by Romanian and Bulgarian gypsies in Amsterdam Centraal.

He was instrumental in reducing Amsterdam's reputation of being #1 in pickpocketing and shop lifting crime (Zakkenrollers= pickpockets ) to a drop down to #9 or so.

He died in November 2017 much to the relief of the pickpockets and scam artists.

I'll link to one of his most eye opening vids and the follow up to one year later.

My parents traveled to Yugoslavia when my mother was pregnant with my sister. She was approached by an older gipsy woman who gave my mother money to buy her child from her for protection.

It was just a few cents, but my mom loves to tell this weird story, I think mostly because it upsets my sister. We were never able to figure out the background story to this incident, and I wonder if it’s some kind of tradition or superstition?

R93 I'm not sure if I understand that story correctly - so the gypsy woman wanted to buy your unborn sister from your mom? Why on earth did your mom accept the cash from her? LOL

R94, that’s correct. I have no idea why the woman bought rights to the fetus, aka my sister. My mother was surprised and thought it was some kind of tradition and went along with it.

I've dated a Romani from Hungary. I've learned a lot like they can be blond as my hook up and they see themselves as the last persecuted group in the world and the oldest nomad tribe in existence. Some resort to tricks as payback punishment for years of persecution and are very resentful like some radical blacks about the slavery historical debt kind of thing.

Several are anti semitic and hate gays but most fuck guys on the DL.

[quote] If you love freedom, you are part Romani.

Mary!

I have two half Romani friends who are highly assimilated, both hardworking and ethical. Both dark and identify as persons of color. One travelled to India and was mistaken there for Indian.

Most states have a bounty on these critters. I think a skin is worth 150.00 if the face is attached. I've heard that Hitler got the idea for ovens with seating for more than a hundred were first considered for gypsies.

If they love wandering, they'll love The US prairie. I feel like a Rte. 66 Gypsy Road Trip reality show needs to happen. If Gypsies like wide, open spaces, we definitely got 'em in The US.

They pimp out their own children to paedophiles.

All it needs is a gypsy Winnebago caravan.

[quote] A gang of Romanian gipsy child-snatchers stole almost 200 poor children from their families and brought them to Britain to pick pockets, a court heard

Victor Hugo's 1831 novel "The Hunchback of Notre-Dame" was built around that same practice. Beautiful infant Esmeralda stolen and deformed infant Quasimodo left in her place.

Not much progress for 187 years.

Ron Wood of the Stones is of Romani descent.

Ron Wood is NOT Romani - his family were English "water gypsies" - canal/river barge operators. They sometimes lived on the boats and were called "bargees".

What about me, eh? Remember me?

well I stand corrected r105.

My husband is from the former USSR, which had, and has, a significant Roma population. Once Stalin took power, he forced them to settle in villages, towns, or cities and their children were compelled to attend school. Failure to do so was a death sentence.

My husband tells me there are three distinct groups of Roma. One group is artists-mostly musicians. They don’t steal. Another group is artisans. In the USSR they worked in factories, such as the Kalashnikov factory. They don’t steal. The third are traders and thieves. My husband went to school with Roma from the first group. He worked in the city center and had a lot of contact with the third group. He saw the humanity in them, and didn’t have issues with them. He used to yell “police” in Romani and watch them scatter. Eventually they figured out it was him, and just laughed about it. He says you can’t trust them with property, but they are rarely violent.

You'll only be able to take my gypsy blouse from my cold, dead shoulders.

A teacher at my Catholic primary school taught us to run away if approached by any Travellers, because if they touch you, you'll get ringworm.

They’re lousy tippers, too.

To 84: Not a gypsy, he happens to be half-black.

There are whole families of traveling shoplifters who drive around from store to store, usually small stores like gift shops and jewelry shops. Some of the members distract the sales staff while others help themseves to jewelry or other small, high-value items. We caught one group of these and it was scary.

A gypsy woman picked my coat pocket on the Paris subway. She got my wallet with all my Euros, but luckily my credit card and passport was back at the hotel.

She brushed against me as I entered the turnstile to go to down to the subway. I didn't realize I'd been robbed until 5 minutes later. Those gyps have made pickpocketing an art form.

I reported it to the police, and they actually found my wallet about 2 weeks later when I was back in the States. It was empty, of course. But they sent me a letter and said I could retrieve it within 30 days at a Paris police station. Yeah, right, I'll hop on the next Air France flight.

[bold][quote]Irish and British travellers do not make a living engaging in petty crime/theft as do the Romani. [bold]

Bullshit--they are criminal gangs, but they're not petty criminals like pickpockets.

[/bold]ooh, I fucked up the tags. Point stands, though

My Mom had her pocket picked at the Shrine of Our Lady of Fátima in Portugal.

R117 It's a miracle!

It was for them, but a pain for her. They got all her credit cards, etc. she had to make a ship -to-shore phone call from the cruise ship, etc. They can really fuck up your vacation.

[quote]If they love wandering, they'll love The US prairie.

Irish Travellers winter in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. They do driveway scams, get in barroom brawls and shoplift.

I have had a few cases through the child welfare system involving them. They are pretty much amoral. I remember one case where the father used his newborn's Social Security number to commit fraud before the kid was a week old.

Are the Irish Travelers the ones who post notices on front doors of peoples' homes insinuating that the house number must be painted on one's curb, by law?

A few days later they come back and take around a $10 fee and paint the house number on the curbs of all the neighborhood suckers, then move on.

So they're totally parasitic?

You can take the Indian out of India........

Do Gypsies pickpocket/try to fleece other Gypsies? Are there Gypsy clan wars?

Five years ago Roma beggars flooded Sweden and all of a sudden there was a one in front of every supermarket and café. I went to my grandmother's hometown in bumf*ck nowhere, population 800, and when I went to the small convenience store there was a Roma beggar holding out his hand, screaming "Krooooona, pleaaase!". I have no idea how they even found the place.

The SJW took them under their wings and they were untouchable, even when they slept rough all over central Stockholm, used cemetaries as toilets and built illegal shanty towns that cost millions to clean up after they left. They were a real pest, you couldn't walk around in central Stockholm without being harrassed. Churches and non-profits let them sleep there, fed them and clothed them.

As it turns out, the begging was just a front for human trafficking, prostitution, stealing, pickpocketing and crimes against the elderly. Our politicians have finally urged people not to give them money, but it's too late. The Roma have already staked their claimes here and we are not likely to get rid of them any time soon.

As for the Roma living in Sweden, they don't send their kids to school and something like 80% live on welfare, according to a report from the government. It is not uncommon for the girls to get married in their teens, to make sure that they are virgins and not damaged goods. It's a very backward patriarchal culture that isn't compatible with modern life.

r125: yes. It came as a big schock for the SJW when they realised that the Roma who are victims of human trafficking are sold by other Romas. There also seems to be some kind of hierarchy where the low ranking Romas have to give their money to the clan chieftans in the top. The top dogs live in huge houses with marble floors and guilded taps, while the people who work for them or are sold by them live in a cardboard box.

It was not uncommon to see a huge luxury car, always a Mercedes or Audi, park in front of a beggar. A very well dressed man would jump out and get a stack of cash from the beggar. The police say it's some kind of mafia system.

R10 Same here. Let's meet up and go cruising....

Sweden has really fucked itself in the ass with its liberal social policies. They will be overrun by Roma and Muslims within two generations.

Problem with organised Roma gangs in Ireland. I knew a gay Roma lad-hot as fuck-who with his extended family used to fly each week to London to collect unemployment benefit, as well as collecting it in Ireland.

[quote] There also seems to be some kind of hierarchy where the low ranking Romas have to give their money to the clan chieftans in the top. The top dogs live in huge houses with marble floors and guilded taps, while the people who work for them or are sold by them live in a cardboard box.

Correct, R127. The term is Rom Baro.

Filthy, dirty, thieving gypsies

R123, yes! Haha

R126, I pity thee. It's Sweden after all. Your value has gone down substantially with your foreigner hosting SJWS. The world suffers. You are no longer deemed a refuse first class.

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The Roma bring all these problems on themselves.

They are like the nerdy 8 year old kid that, two minutes before Christmas vacation is to start, raises his hand and says "Teacher, you forgot to assign us homework over the holiday."

And then he wonders why he got beat up and bullied all the time.

From R135 article:

[quote]Viorica Vaduva, pictured sitting in the bedroom of her temporary home, is the sole provider for her family back in Romania

I wonder if she's living in a filthy tent in Sweden so she can send money back to a wealthy pimp in Romana. And why is she the "sole provider"? Because none of the men work. They just pimp out the women and kids to beg in the streets.

Isn't Adam Ant part Roma?

When I was little, a Gypsy "King" was on his deathbed in a local hospital. I think he had some sort of blood disease. Within a day of his arrival, caravans of his people started swarming into town for some sort of death watch. They set up shanties in undeveloped lots near the hospital and caused a lot of problems for local businesses. There were shopkeepers who'd sleep in their stores with a gun for fear of theft and damage. There were also rumors that there might be a dispute over succession when the King died and people were worried about violence. Fortunately, there were no problems with that. When the King died and the caravans left, the camp site was a squalid mess. It looked worse than the old city dump.

Some of them stayed behind to run scams. My grandfather rented one of his flats to a mother and daughter, not realizing at first that they were Gypsies. They made money "telling fortunes" and selling bottles of a "blessed water." It turned out they had been collecting the water from the underground stream below the flat's basement. We never figured out how they even knew about the stream. Only two or three family members knew about it and it wasn't easy to find the trap door to it unless it was pointed out to you (it was fun years later when the city water department needed access to it...the older family members who knew had since passed and I had to locate it based on childhood memories). When they were eventually evicted for not paying the rent, my uncle found the trap door to the spring open and the whole basement stacked floor-to-ceiling with bottles of water to be sold.

They suckered a lot of people with that magic water. Even after they were gone, people would still show up at the flat looking for them. I remember a well-dressed woman with a nice car coming around in tears, looking for them because her mother was sick and they needed some of that water. She didn't seem like the gullible type and my aunt said she recognized the woman as the wife of a prominent local philanthropist.

I got ripped off by Irish travelers about a month ago. I'm furious about it. Normally I would never fall for a scam but I'm Bipolar and several major issues had happened all at once and I was seriously out of whack. I even told the man about it and how I had to get to the doctor blah blah. He told me he had to fix something on the roof and it would cost £250. By the end of the hour the price had gone up to £1000. I had to borrow the money from a friend. Paid him and he went off. The next day it rained and god knows what damage they'd done to the roof but there were several leaks all over it. Needless to say, the phone number he gave me was discontinued. I'm livid but there's nothing I can do. Since then, I'm averaging about one traveler builder a week knocking on my door and telling me that I need some work done and it will only cost whatever. I start off with a polite 'no' but usually end up with 'Fuck off you low life scum' because they continue to push.

I'm so sorry, r139. They seem to target people who are vulnerable, like old or disabled people.

More details about gypsy sizemeat!

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R138, why would they need to get their scam water from a secret underground stream in the basement? What's wrong with just turning on the tap and filling up the bottles?

When I was young I took a gap year and went to England on a student work abroad program and ended up working in a pub just outside of London where the staff warned me about "travelers." I had never heard the term before and was mildly offended since I considered myself to be a traveler lol. Anyway, I soon learned what a traveler was and saw first hand the type of scams some of them (not all of course) are known for. One thing I was warned about was a sort of change raising trick - a traveler would buy a drink, talk to you and try and distract you while you made change, and then insist that they paid you with a higher valued bill than they really gave you. Children would be used as distraction in small stores as well. They'd run amok and while the clerk would be keeping their eye on them, the older kids or adult would pocket items.

The travelers aren't gypsies. Gypsies are Roma. Travelers are from Ireland. American travelers are descended from Irish travelers. Roma are of Indian descent.

Their whole economy is based on cash. Must be hard for them when no one carries it anymore.

Re: R2’s article, over the past year or so the organized begging gangs have been moving north. Palo Alto and the Peninsula appear to be their chosen territory.

Just since Christmas, I’ve been hit up twice by “Ermenegildo Zegna sales reps” who have been at a trade show and are in a panic because they’re flying back to Italy that night and they’ve just learned that their sample leather jackets are too heavy to fly home. It’s urgent that they unload them because they’re going to be fired if they don’t reimburse the company “just 5% of wholesale price!!” Sure. That makes sense.

What goes on at Town and Country in Palo Alto is a lot creepier. When it’s busy at lunch and dinner there’s usually a woman carrying a screaming baby or small child who comes up — head down, never making eye contact — and in a shaky voice asks for money because she can’t afford to fill the baby’s prescription.

I can’t imagine what they’re doing to make them scream bloody murder but when I mentioned it to a security guard he seemed really nonchalant and said there’s a car waiting nearby and when they’re kicked out they just move to the next location and come back later. He did assure me that they switch out the babies, as if that makes it better.

I hope the babies are getting paid union scale for their performances.

Great musicians. Must be the Indian in them.

Chi mangav me barvalimo...🎶

Didn't Yul Brynner claim to be gypsy?

I don’t know, but he wasn’t.

He had a gypsy club act. Singing, playing mandolin, presenting hole.

R135, the GARBAGE in those photos! My god. The woman says she travels to the city every day, bag up garbage and bring it out of the settlement with you. I gagged.

R155: If you think that’s bad you should have seen the cesspit of human feces and urine I was unfortunate enough to witness when a large group of them were finally evicted from an illegal site they’d occupied for over three years.

Shit dispoal is always a problem.

r155: 121 tons (!) of garbage, plus a lot of feces, was removed from the illegal camping site after they were evicted. It cost the local council about $100 000 to clean and restore the place and recycle the cars, caravans, sofas, tires and trash that was left behind.

They are incorrigible grifters. Sad but true. They are also child abusers and I don't mean sexually but children are their for crime and income production, that is all. They do NOT fit into any European system. They have freedom of movement and as humans they have many civil and financial rights in rich countries and it never goes well. For example, if they settle somewhere for a few months, the local schools will attempt to educate the children and begin sinking resources into all the ways the children have NOT been educated (and medically and dentally treated) like is the right of a local child, only to have the kid pulled within a year or 2.

In Geneva (Switzerland) the kids roam in gangs and try to take down adults at dusk to steal everything possible. Dusk is the magic hour as is rush hour. People are moving and people don't see well.

They are responsible for most local waves of home break-ins.

I've known and fucked with some gay gypsy men and they are not without their charms. Like Brazilians, best to consume off site - not your home. Do not get involved. They are in it to win it for themselves.

The funniest movie I have ever seen is "Black Cat White Cat" directed by Kuristica(sp?) and it deals with Yugoslavian gypsies. I can not recommend it enough. After seeing it I became really obsessed with learning more about this ethnic group.

FWIW, if a white director wrote and directed a film about black Americans and their stereotypical negative habits and behavior, he would be run out of Hollywood for life. So I guess that gypsies are far less sensitive.

The Gypsies are the biggest group of pickpockets in all the European cities.

[quote]FWIW, if a white director wrote and directed a film about black Americans and their stereotypical negative habits and behavior, he would be run out of Hollywood for life. So I guess that gypsies are far less sensitive.

Gypsies are white, so it's okay to stereotype them. Those are the rules

"The League of Gentleman" captured the terror of the "Traveling people" with their Papa Lazarou character.

Seems they do this all over the place. In my country they also are know for stealing and scamming ppl. And they can be quite aggressive. Their kids never go to school, and the girls are usually married by 10 or 12. They always seems to have horses in their camps and when they get old, they just abandon them. When some gypsy goes to a hospital they always bring their entire family, and i mean everyone. You can clearly see them camp outside the hospital, always in groups of 30+ ppl. They cant integrate and they dont want too, and they hate every other ethnicity. They usually end up fighting with other migrant groups like Africans and Asians. They are loud, noisy and dirty. If they set up camp near you, your life will turn too hell. their only income is with gov assistance programs and scams, thats it.

R154 There is a scene in "White Cat Black Cat" which portrays that hospital group thing you described.

My parents had a business in Chicago when I was growing up. Across the street, there was a palm-reading joint run by gypsies. Whenever they came into our shop, i had to totally defend the merchandise because they really amped up the distraction-steal you blind game. Used to bother me that even tiny little kids were in the gangs and doing their part.

One funny thing: their palm reader storefront had a neon sign that said, "reader and adniser" apparently the guy who made or ordered the sign had some language difficulties. I used to snicker every time i saw it.

gypsies are scum

Old gypsy, Roma photos, so many gorgeous men.

I don't know if this guy is legitimately Roma/Gypsy but as typical of Eurasian/East Indian and Euro people, he has one of those rare and stunning eye colors: Those kind of green, gray or violet eyes that are just electric.

Unusual hazel eyes, too.

[quote] My parents had a business in Chicago when I was growing up. Across the street, there was a palm-reading joint run by gypsies. Whenever they came into our shop, i had to totally defend the merchandise because they really amped up the distraction-steal you blind game. Used to bother me that even tiny little kids were in the gangs and doing their part.

Do gypsies ever actually BUY anything from these stores they're shoplifting from? I'd just flat-out ban them from even entering!

I wonder if part of the reason they kidnap kids is to bring in fresh blood to their tribe?

Or do they not think that far ahead, and it's just about how much money the child can bring in, either through begging and shoplifting assistance, or through selling or pimping out the child to pedophiles?

Comparable group?

Is this OP too uninformed to know that Romani is Romani?

The comparable group in the USA is the Romani.

Note that all itinerant cultures are "comparable" just because they are itinerant.

The Irish Travelers are not Romani. They are from Irish genetic and cultural roots.

English Travelers, though, ARE Romani, as the English recognize.

The accusation of inevitable crime among the Romani is as bigoted and unacceptable as any stereotype. My cousin has a Romani campground adjacent to her property, and has never had or observed any problems, despite the hysteria among some of her neighbors.

R173 Spend a week around high-traffic tourist areas in Italy or France in the summer. You'll quickly see that Roma thieving is no stereotype.

[quote]Shit dispoal is always a problem.

We don't have a problem with that. We give all of ours to Sarah Huckabee Sanders and she spews it out at press conferences.

R126 Tack för din berättelse. Lycka till med dem Roma i Sverige.

R159 I once had a coffee with a guy who was Romanian, but he might as well have been Gypsy as far as I was concerned. This was in Paris and his French was really good (and he was pretty attractive, for a Romanian and for a guy), but still he was getting fired from every job left and right. I wondered what it was that he did so wrong, or if he did anything right. He was 26 and seemed in excellent health. At the time I was going through an "adventurous" period in my life and had asked him out for coffee because of his musicianship. I was curious to know if he played in a band, etc. He has been playing in the metro (trumpet or clarinett, I can't really remember), and unlike most metro musicians he was really good. Meeting up with him was enlightening/informative. He told me he had a French girlfriend. Didn't seem to care for her one bit. I'm a lesbian and wasn't attracted to him, but I didn't tell him that. He kept asking me if I had a car. I don't drive, so no. Still he asked again, at different times in the conversation. Did I have a car? Always disappointed/annoyed when I said no. That's all he seemed to care about. Shady as fuck. He might just have said he wanted to steal my car. But I didn't have one.

I had to chase after a gypsy kid that came into a gay bar and stole a phone from a patron. Once confronted the kid handed over the phone. The parents should be sterilised.