Conor Lamb interview on Morning Joe

Whatever Boris

Morning Natasha! Shame about the GOP loss, huh?

I missed him on Morning Joe but I was very impressed with him on CNN. He's exactly the kind of candidate that can win in Trump country.

Honestly, all I really need from him is to be hot and a democrat.

Why should we give up our morals, simply because we want some wishy washy Republican to win, rather than a Nazi win? Pardon me but I want to push a liberal.

pro-choice, pro-entitlement, pro-labor. That's liberal to me. And yes, moderates are much preferable to Nazis.

Boris, you have no morals.

[quote]Pardon me but I want to push a liberal.

So do I, right into the East River.

Isn't that what people had against Hillary? She was more Republican than Democrat? Maybe I am confuse?

Can we stop calling it "pro-entitlement"?

Also, he's probably been up all night so maybe he's a little out of it.

I WILL CUT YOU, NATASHA.

Leave my baby alone.

By the way, did anyone tell Paul Ryan that people are sick of him?

He has such pretty skin.

OP, I thought the same. He was on CNN, Alisyn Camerota was interviewing him. I thought maybe he's really tired, was up all night? Maybe learning how to navigate the media, but he came across almost as rude and irritated he had to answer questions. He offered no sense of who he was, one-two word cursory answers. I thought he would be far more effusive, grateful - instead, cold and, as Op wrote, unimpressive

His coloring is all wrong. He seems like his mom put his makeup gun on whore.

He just came off as dead-eyed and unenthusiastic. I thought he would have more of a dynamic personality to have rallied so many people.

Have any of you actually watched the interview?

Instead of just giving a knee-jerk reaction, try to apply some critical thinking.

He was calling for Nancy Pelosi to be replaced, but he couldn't even clearly explain why he wanted her to be replaced!

The guy is pretty rough around the edges. He needs a lot of work.

But I agree... a Democratic win, is a Democratic win.

Troll thread.

Look at that sexy square jaw.

Why didn’t you just post it in the Conor Lamb thread?

Because it would’ve been easier to ignore you, clown.

Is it weird that all his photos look like they were taken in 1960?

I think that's what he's going for R21. He's a union dem after all

r21 Not one bit, Rose. Not one bit.

The interview kind of goes off the rails at the 3 min 45 sec mark, starting with Willie Geist's question.

He's a former Marine and federal prosecutor. Plus his election is not official yet. It would be very poor form to preen like an idiot. He's not going to spend today screaming about Trump's impeachment if that's what people expect.

He's appealing to Trumpland voters and saying exactly the right things. I've very happy Democrats are starting how to win elections there.

He's a conservative Democrat.

My thought is that people are starting to see what Republicans are doing...the truth might be filtering into their consciousness. Republicans are just plain evil.

Concern troll is concerned!

moderate* dem. There have been and still are many pro-life dems. There are pro-big business dems, there anre anti spending dems. He isn't any of those things, just pro-gun. And despite that, he supports Manchin-Toomey bill

He probably slept about 30 minutes last night. I'll cut him some slack.

[quote] He's a former Marine and federal prosecutor.

Wow, I didn't realize that he's a federal prosecutor.

I would have expected him to be a bit more articulate, but he must have something good going on upstairs, for him to have his law degree.

Republican spin this morning: "Lamb ran as a Republican."

I will agree his interview was somewhat lackluster but that probably comes from the fact he hasn't gotten a good night's sleep in several days having campaigned heavily and then stayed up all night waiting for results.

GOP will always spin, Dems would too in their shoes. But results are results. There was no scandal laden R on the ballot this time. Dems just really moved the needle 20 points

He needs to get inside me RIGHT NOW!

If there is one major takeaway for Dems from this election it's this: Only nominate hot men for office. Gay agenda never fails

Yes, the gays in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania are what got him over the finish line.

Lol R36.

It's not only gay men. Young women, moms, and grandmas will always vote for the cute guy over the old troll.

People are very superficial nowdays.

Don't underestimate us!!

r37 Post of the Week

Matthew Yglesias @mattyglesias

MONDAY SPIN: Lamb is a tax-hiking, gun-grabbing Pelosi clone who will let illegal immigrants slaughter your unborn children.

WEDNESDAY SPIN: Look, he’s basically a Republican.

It's the Republicans who are pushing this "you Dems thunk you won but you basically lost because he's just a Republican anyway" narrative. It's about as convincing as their "Trump is playing 3D chess" meme.

Dear idiots. If you are disappointed that a Democratic candidate closed a 20 point gap in his district because he’s unimpressive in the morning shows, consider this.

The Republican Revolution of 1994 gave us a barrel of boors including Morning Joe.

The Tea Party unleashed a plethora of ignorant hicks. I’ll take Lamb’s cautiousness over an ‘I can see Russia from my front porch’ word salading Palin.

It’s the Democratic Achilles heel. Win elections and then immediately trash the winner.

Conor Lamb campaigned:

1. For universal health care

2. Against Trump’s tax cut

3. For expanded background checks

4. For stronger unions

5. Against cuts to Social Security

6. For a woman’s right to choose

7. For medical marijuana

“Conservative Democrat.” Ok. Cool.

r9

[quote] Maybe I am confuse?

Boris, maybe your English isn't very good?

Conor needs to celebrate by bending me over and flooding my mussy.

Get in line hunty

I can't believe all those Pennsylvanians voted against God and America

r38, just nowdays?

[quote] Yes, the gays in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania are what got him over the finish line.

All two of them?

[quote] I can't believe all those Pennsylvanians voted against God and America

I can't believe so many people voted for that sack of shit Saccone.

Conor Lamb: As Hot As Tom Cotton, But With An Actual Soul!

80% of Lamb's gains in the district came from thirsty housewives. Almost half of the Saccone vote was men angry that they found pictures on Lamb on their wive's phones.

Lamb vs Cotton 2020. With mandatory shirtless debate

You joke, R52, but JFK and Bill Clinton both got boosted to victory by horny women.

I'm exaggerating R54 but not really joking...

So can we get back to speculating if he's closeted?

How many 33-year-old Catholic lawyers in Pennsylvania are single, never married and have no girlfriend?

Especially 6-foot-4 former Marines who look like that?

[quote]As Hot As Tom Cotton

Hiss and spit and piss and shit on you.

Politicians tend to marry older. They have to wait for their political star to rise so they can snag the wife with the richest family possible. Paul Ryan didn't marry until 30. But his wife's father then paid for all his future congressional campaigns

Kudos to R41 and R44 for shutting down Boris' meltdown.

What this shows is that Democrats can win, even in deep red country, WHEN WE ARTICULATE OUR VALUES. Democratic values are American values. We've let the Republicans paint us as baby killers, soft on crime, tax-and-spend, blah, blah, blah.

I wish that the party was out there this morning talking about an agenda to get America back on track: day one, repeal and replace Trump's $Trillion tax giveaway to the 0.1%; strengthening Obamacare; supporting unions, and bringing accountability to Washington DC, starting at the top. It's a winning message, even in Pennsylvania Trump country

Go Conor!

Josh Barro:

There's been a lot of either-or argument over what the future of the Democratic Party should be. Should Democrats seek to build a coalition of college-educated suburbanites plus white urbanites and minorities, or should they try to win back blue-collar white voters who have fallen away from the party in recent decades?

(The Pa-18 election) showed Democrats don't have to choose. Conor Lamb managed to do three things at once:

Maintain gains Hillary Clinton made in affluent, educated suburban areas in 2016,

Regain working-class voters who picked Barack Obama in 2008 or 2012 but rejected Clinton in 2016, and

Win over voters who rejected Obama and Clinton in all three elections.

These results should hearten Democrats and scare Republicans, especially when examined on a town-by-town basis.

Op, I said that last night at his victory speech. He does need to work on his communication style. Last night he was going through his talking points, and when the crowd cheered, he stopped, seemingly annoyed to be interrupted. I don't know if he was annoyed or not, but it was definitely a weird little pause.

R57 Hiss all you want but Cotton is on the surface a handsome man. It's the evil, souless hateful piece of shit that he is as a human that makes him ugly.

(See under: Ryan, Paul et al.)

[quote] He's appealing to Trumpland voters and saying exactly the right things.

EXACTLY. He doesn't want to frighten off swing voters, which is the smart thing to do. A lot of republican seats are up for grabs in November and he is being innocuous, non-threatening and non-gloating so that people will vote for a democrat.

He did a good job.

Exactly R62. Nothing wrong with pointing out attractive men. As long as you make sure to acknowledge when they are awful.

I like that he had the balls to claim victory instead of doing the usual, "Let's wait and see," crap.

[quote]Hiss all you want but Cotton is on the surface a handsome man. It's the evil, souless hateful piece of shit that he is as a human that makes him ugly. (See under: Ryan, Paul et al.)

[quote]Exactly [R62]. Nothing wrong with pointing out attractive men.

Except neither of them is physically attractive. They're as ugly on the outside as they are in their pustulous interiors.

No guy is attractive to everyone. But doesn't make much sense to say Cotton is ugly but Lamb is hot. Pretty similar looks. I'll be the first to agree Cotton is scum though

[quote]But doesn't make much sense to say Cotton is ugly but Lamb is hot. Pretty similar looks.

Until this moment, Conor Lamb's looks made me think of Tom Cotton exactly 0 (zero) times. And they shall continue to remind me of him no times in the future, either. Conor looks like a puppy. Cotton looks like a horse('s ass).

They bothe have a nose, two eyes, a mouth and teeth. That makes them "hot" to DL shut ins.

Lanky guys with long angular faces. I hate Cotton. He's a racist. The worst of all deplorables. But I can admit they look similarly

He' s a millennial. That's how they are when you ask them a question. He'll be fine.

[quote]But I can admit they look similarly

Brush up on your grammar and get back to me.

I heard he was pro- life- that is certainly not a Democratic ideal.

He is pro choice troll. Has said he would have voted against the 20 week abortion ban

R56 I don't think he's closeted rather he seems to be an overachieving workaholic with no time for a relationship. I actually kind of get an asexual vibe from him.

[quote]Maintain gains Hillary Clinton made in affluent, educated suburban areas in 2016. Regain working-class voters who picked Barack Obama in 2008 or 2012 but rejected Clinton in 2016, and Win over voters who rejected Obama and Clinton in all three elections.

White ex-military relatively conservative MALE?

No duh, Josh Barro.

[quote]I heard he was pro- life- that is certainly not a Democratic ideal.

He's like Tim Kaine. "Personally opposed" isn't the same as legally and ideologically opposed.

It's his first political contest. He has to make a name for himself and go to Washington in order to get the cred that an heiress would require before marrying him.

While I'm happy that Conor appears to have won, I'm disheartened that it was so fucking close .... I really don't understand how people in America are still so stupid as to trust Trump and the GOP.

I’m personally opposed to abortion, but support an individuals right to choose.

r80 Conor Lamb

R81 I’m female.

r80, your position is exactly the same as Conor Lamb's.

Idk if anyone noticed but Conor is really hot

R83 and many other Democrats.

If you are personally against abortion you are against abortion - period. This idea that claiming it's a " personal" thing doesn't hold water with me. If abortion became illegal would you be happy? Would you really fight for pro-choice laws? To me that's a way to appeal to people who really are against abortion to feel safe about your abortion stance. No would say I am personally against " gays" but not politically and be taken seriously about being pro- gay rights.

R86 I'm not the poster you were arguing with but I think the idea that a woman would never choose to have an abortion herself, but does think other women should be allowed if they so choose is straight forward. The phrase is meaningless is a guy says it, I agree

R59 writes,

[quote]WHEN WE ARTICULATE OUR VALUES.

What are those values?

Please articulate.

R86 R80 here. I’m female. You’re male. You’ve got zero argument. I wouldn’t have an abortion, but respect others to choose for themselves. It’s not that hard to understand.

It’s funny that woman have no trouble coming on here and voicing their opinions on what gay men should do with our bodies.

His pic at R44 is the only one where he looks contemporary and not like he just stepped out of a time machine from the ‘60s.

R91...

^^^That is an impressive level of eldergay

R91 Duh. It says at the bottom of the pic, Jon Favreau. Take another shot of whatever you’re drinking, Sweetie.

Hello? OP, he is from Western PA. He is what passes for hyperactive in Western PA.

Please you can't expect him to look all 2018... The 80s just ended in Western PA. We finally made it to the 90s like a week ago.

[quote]If you are personally against abortion you are against abortion - period. This idea that claiming it's a " personal" thing doesn't hold water with me.

I couldn't care less what anyone's personal views and practices on that matter for themselves are, as long as they support Roe vs Wade and a woman's right to choose as fait accompli and leave it at that. Have as many kids as you want and don't ever get an abortion if that's your faith, personal choice, whatever. As long as it's your own shit and not a political platform, I don't care.

I'm surprised that so many of you think he's hot. This guy is the epitome of Average White Guy.

R88, see R44.

Beyond that, what I think appealed to enough moderate Republicans was that Lamb explained his positions in clear, simple terms. I acknowledge that when a politician parses their words, it alienates a lot of voters that basically agree with the Democrat's positions. But when you say something like "That depends on what your definition of 'is' is..." you've lost them (not to pick on Bubba, just using the clearest example that illustrates my point).

Listen to Trump's voters. One was quoted in another thread here, saying that he "was a breath of fresh air." Now, we all know that's utter bullshit; no one with Trump experience thinks he's original, thoughtful, or honest in what he says. But he says it with such conviction! Ane he'll say things other people won't. He's carefully crafted a "tell it like it is" persona for TV, and no matter how fallacious or outright wrong he is, they'll believe it... until they won't.

Along comes Lamb, in a religious district, and articulates a nuanced position on abortion that a lot of Democrats agree with but won't say out loud for fear of alienating their friends and associates.

There is a lot of Trump fatigue out there, and one of the lessons of PA-18 is that people like it when you tell them your truth.

Feel a little better, he was not for the tax breaks and he is pro choice.

He's akin to a Clinton and not a Sanders, r100. I'm actually fine with that too.

Somebody posted upthread that he is for universal healthcare. It depends on how you define UHC -- he's for fixing Obamacare and not single payer.

His is pro-gun. He doesn't believe in an assault weapons ban, but he does support universal background checks, which to me is bare minimum on that front.

He is for fracking and didn't really have a stand on the environment, so I think he's going to be more on the conservative front there.

I also don't recall seeing anything about where he stands on LGBT issues, but he did get LGBT groups' endorsements. So, that seems positive.

R101 Conor is gay. It’s only a matter of time until it’s revealed.

He's 33. He doesn't have any experience speaking to the media. No excuse, but that's the problem. Plus, he's a very conservative Democrat. He doesn't have much to say other than "we have to work together rhetoric." He's not a Democrat I would want, but I'm glad he won. Anybody but a Repig who will vote the asshole in The White House.

Wow you couldn't be more obvious OP Trumptard.

R59/R99,

No mention of the words [italic]Single Payer[/italic] or [italic]Medicare For All[/italic].

No mention of the words [Italic]$15 Per Hour for Minimum Wage[/italic].

No mention of the words, [italic]Ending Wars[/italic].

No mention of [italic]Cutting the Military Budget[/italic].

No mention of the words, [italic]Ending the Patriot Act[/italic].

No mention of the words, [italic]Ending the FISA Program[/italic].

No mention of [Italic]Ending Accepting Corporate Campaign Contributions[/italic].

No mention of [italic]Getting Corporate Money Out of Politics[/italic].

To not mention any of this means these are not good “VALUES.”

To mention those things at this point, r105, in that district, would have been to hand the election to Saccone.

who in fuk thinks tom cotton is hot?????

Lamb don't believe in banning assault weapons???

wtf

[quote] Lamb don't believe in banning assault weapons???

[quote] wtf

You can go elsewhere now, Boris. Lamb won. You and your wtf's can haunt other websites now.

R107, there is a decent little contingent here who believe that. There have been threads

Nothing "decent" about such a contingent, r110.