Rupaul's Drag Race - Season 10 - MEET THE QUEENS

My guess is Kalorie Karbdashian-Williams.

When their boy looks get posted online, PLEASE LINK THEM TO THIS THREAD. Thanks

Kameron Michaels

Dusty Ray Bottoms

Aquaria

Blair St. Clair

Miz Cracker (Bob the Drag Queen's daughter)

Kalorie K

Vanessa Vanjie Mateo (Alexis Mateo's daughter)

Mayhem Miller

Monét X Change

The Vixen

Yuhua Hamasaki

Eureka O'Hara

Monique Heart deleted her Instagram, and Asia O'Hara hasn't posted to hers yet, so no boy pics that I can find.

Kameron Michaels instagram is a thirst trap, he is so ready to be an out-of-drag sex symbol like Milk.

Also I can't believe they are rushing season 10 immediately.

Seems unfair to both the All Stars 3 cast and Season 10 cast to have them right on top of each other, rather than giving them seperate times in the spotlight.

Eurgh, these people are so damn handsome out of drag. I feel so fucking inadequate in comparison. Not really the feeling I'm looking for when watching Drag Race but whatever, bring on the next season!

The poster above me is correct in saying that Kameron Michaels is thirsty as all fuck but still I hope he motivates me to workout more while he's parading his bod on the show.

I really don't think Kameron is attractive out of drag at all, he looks far too plastic and resembles Robert Sepúlveda Jr "shudder". Miz Cracker is surprisingly good looking though.

Dusty Ray Bottoms is a pretty, pretty boy.

Whoever posted the bok looks ................ Shontay, PLEASE STAY. Thank you for taking the time !!!

Kameron IS a muscle queen ...............the tattoos are unfortunate, but that bodyodyody !!!

shit .........boy loooks

Asia O'Hara

Oh God... Kameron DOES look like Sepulveda in the face!

Things can only go up from Season 9 - the fact that it came down to a transgender and a lecturing academic at the end spoke volumes about that season.

Apparently they're bringing back the old Untucked format, which is great, but the Untucked intros from seasons past would often unintentionally spoil the elimination order by the amount of times the queens were seen in different looks.

Social media has totally changed the contestants ..............understandably, I guess.

So many of the recent queens (including this 'I look like a bitch, but I'm really nice' cast) all go for Miss Congeniality now.

I miss the days when some of the show (and definitely Untucked) required a glass of tea and some popcorn.

You're a fucking legend R15! Thanks for finding all those boy pics and posting for us. Some of them are very nice looking guys.

With Dragcon, etc ............... the queens want to be sweethearts and make their money. It's all about touring, branding, etc.

I'm sure this season's queens will be fighting to get their catchphrase out their ('Purse First, etc)

And goddammit, the Lil Poundcake dolls sold out before I could get one !!!

The Vixen looks busted - those party city wigs always seem to be revealing the back of his real hair. She's my vote for first off - unless extreme talent (she can do a back bend I see) keeps her in. In that case, then Aquariavis out of here (another busted look).

Looking at the Wikipedia page for this season, it looks like we'll have our first RPDR queens from Indiana, Missouri and New Mexico.

Wrong link... meant to put the Wikipedia article there:

I guess it must be the social media effect/all of the seasoned queens who wanted to be on Drag Race already have. I am hoping to be wrong and some jewels will emerge.

I just watched this hour-long video of Sasha Velour interviewing the new queens and not a single one of them excites me. However, the only two that actively grate are Vanessa Mateo and Hamasaki.

Kameron Michaels might have Sepulveda's face but I may have judged him prematurely at R18; he comes off as well-spoken, personable, and not at all self-absorbed. Plus he's a gaymer which only gets him bonus points in my eyes. I'd flaunt my body on Insta as well if I looked like that.

Dusty Ray Bottoms is another one who seems really well-balanced. He's also impossibly tall and I find very tall guys who are proud bottoms extremely hot.

My excitement for the new season went down markedly after watching that but it can't be any worse than the ongoing borefest that is AS3, can it?

The fat one who injured his leg last year will win. The need a fat winner to round out their Politically Correct Bingo.

As is Eureka has a good chance of winning it. And honestly I wouldnt mind. Sha came accross as fun and adorable, even if somewhat hiper.

Eureka came across as really self-aware in the interview at r32. In a good way, I mean. She knows exactly what bothered people about her attitude and is prepared to adjust it accordingly. I loved that but we'll see how she comes across in the actual show.

Miz Cracker writes articles of Slate. Of interest is her great exploration/take-down of Call Me By Your Name

[quote]To repeat, this is strange! Why has Call Me by Your Name attained such an iconic “gay” status when it is anything but? When its main characters seem almost aggressively isolated from gay culture or politics? When its precocious protagonist has to be reminded that it’s gauche to make fun of people who are openly gay? Here’s one theory: Perhaps we gay boys have fallen for this ungay romance because it’s so straight—and if we gays love anything, it’s chasing after straight guys.

I’m concerned this season will be dominated by “resting on looks” queens, both in and out of drag. Many of these guys are very attractive and in the past that meant lazy, from Pearl and Milk who are both milquetoast to Valentina who couldn’t even be bothered to memorize lyrics. I hope they actually screened for talent this time. If it turns into a pageant and awards another talentless Tyra, I’m out.

r36 Wait, that horrible take in Slate that was denounced by all of gay Twitter was written by the Cracker bitch? Yeah, she was annoying in that interview but now she's dead to me. Horrid piece of "writing".

I thought it was well-written and she made good points, but whatever floats your boat.

She's the worst and I think less of Bob the Drag Queen - my favourite drag queen ever - for having mothered that.

Anyway, I can't wait for their introductions on the show itself as the snappy editing makes everything better. That unedited interview makes everyone come across as basic.

Kalorie K is a cute Latin cub out of drags.

I can't watch that special with Sasha Velour .................... she ain't happening, Rupaul. Just STOP

I found Sasha bearable on her season, but good gods, R42, it really was painful. Almost as painful was the rabid desire of so many of the queens to be Miss Congeniality. Bitch, no one wants to watch 14 pagenty suck ups talking about "sisterhood".

Yeah, I liked Sasha on her season but she comes across as stilted and inauthentic in those interviews with the queens. Like she's uncomfortable with herself and/or overthinking her choice of words.

Or perhaps the interviewing format just isn't her thing, which is fine. It must be hard for a drag queen to take a back seat and focus on other drag queens like that, especially if you're still the reigning queen.

5 New York queens who know each other well in this cast. Is this going to be the third season in a row a New York queen will win? Odds say yes.

And I agree Sasha was a little stilted, but interviewing people isn't as easy as it looks, and it isn't like she has any experience doing so.

[quote]I really don't think Kameron is attractive out of drag at all, he looks far too plastic and resembles Robert Sepúlveda Jr "shudder".

Ugh. No I can't unsee the Sepulveda thing.

I quit watchin it

too shrieky hyper loud

all seems pre scripted.

ru no fun no mo.

yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum

I got so excited over the little preview during the most recent All Stars episode. One of them looks like a black Phi Phi out of drag. So, so cute.

I want it NOW!

This is the best looking cast we’ve had, but a season full of Pearls and Milks might ruin it for me. This season might just be all about looks and about sucking up to the audience and that’s not what I want to see.

If the “cute boys” factor affects the caliber of talent this season as it has in the past, I’m out. My only interest in this show is the talent and humor. I do not tune into Drag Race to watch Instagram whores come to life. One Valentina is enough and one Pearl is one too many for this show.

If, however, these guys are as good as less “hot” ones, then great. Time will tell.

R51, I actually think Valentina is talented at least compared to Pearl/Milk/Fame.

R52 Her smile is beeeeeyouuuuuteeful

Yeah, the show is slowly but surely morphing into something else. As most shows do over time, I suppose. But if the Instagram shit and the blind fear of those Reddit teens take over completely, I'm out as well.

R52 I did say one Valentina is enough, not too many. One Pearl was one too many. I can’t believe how far he made it by being cute and dopey. Same with Tyra...he was cute and she was pretty...but all they ever did was smile and twirl around and say “Beyonce would never...!” How the hell did he win?

Choices!

I didn’t see Tyra’s season but isn’t she at least a good dancer? Pearl couldn’t even dance. She would’ve lost to anyone else besides Trixie and Fame. The lip synchs w Fame would’ve been a double elimination any other season.

Unfortunately, the fun will be out once it becomes populated with women/trans that think everything is appropriation.

R56 There was a dancing challenge and she just came out in a flowy dress and spun and twirled and everyone like like what the fuck. I mix up the episodes but she was always being a prima donna and saying things like “Beyonce would never do a vulgar dance!” And the others would say, “You are not Beyonce!!!!!” It was a terrible season.

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Let’s see but let’s appreciate what this show does. I love it for the characters and every season there is still some interesting ones. And in the end Pearl really extended herself and that’s why she stayed.

[quote]There was a dancing challenge and she just came out in a flowy dress and spun and twirled and everyone like like what the fuck.

The rocker chick challenge, where Tyra was saved from the bottom 2 due to having immunity after winning the wedding dress challenge the week before.

Henry Rollins was not amused by that "performance".

I love that Kumail Nanjiani will be a judge this season. And DL all-time fave Lens Dunham as well.

Is Bob the Drag Queen stealthily pulling a Bebe Zahara Benet, but with a new identity of Monet X Change? They sound EXACTLY alike.

Aquaria is running head-first into ego-crushing critiques from the judges and I cannot wait.

Nobody stands out to me yet. But we'll see...

No one stands for me yet as well. But this is the first season where I've seen these previews and the lack of editing really makes them all come across as bland. I'm still counting down to the premiere!

r62 They were making fun of that at the most recent viewing party at Roscoe's. They (Trannika Rex and Trixie) said Mone X Change was as talented as Bob, only beautiful. Her drag is supposedly out of this world good, in their words. We'll see.

*stands out

First 10 mins of the season premiere.

I hear Aquaria will be the Laganja of the season.

Aquaria had a cringely freak out on her instagram live when Shea called her character Aquaria in the princess challenge.

That tells you what you need to know about her. Also remember how young she is.

Why are they even bothering with this mess? The best queens were on Season 4 (Willam, Sharon Needles, Phi Phi O'Hara, Patrice Royale, Jiggly Caliente, Chad Michaels).

It's been downhill ever since.

Forget Kameron's plastic ass, Dusty Ray Bottoms is such a cute guy.

Thanks for alerting us to the preview but not one of them stood out to me. And Dusty Ray is indeed the cutest thing ever. Aquaria is a non-starter as she's just too young to have enough range this show requires. Though I'm sure her Insta game is on point so she has that to look forward to after she's eliminated. The Mateo girl has the exact same trainwreck aura as her drag mother, it's both hilarious and adorable. Doubt she'll make it very far, though. Monét X Change looks and acts and talks so much like Bob it's approaching uncanny valley territory.

Is dental work suddenly covered by the production? I feel like everyone had blindingly white teeth, at least in the confessionals.

Damn, look at Eureka in the background of this photo. It just goes on and on and on... Really unfortunate angle.

Miss Cracker was the standout for me in the show opener clip. I like her drag and her personality.

I’m curious about Asia and Monet.

Will Blaire St Claire make it out alive?

Also curious to see how the show treats Eureka. Is her return an advantage? A disadvantage? Will they want to get rid of her?

[quote]Will Blaire St Claire make it out alive?

Ha! She totally looks like she knows already she's getting eaten alive, doesn't she?

[quote]Really unfortunate angle.

I mean duh, Eureka is fat. Will she become the first fat queen to win? That is definitely what she is hoping to achieve by coming back.

I instantly disliked Aquaria plus hearing what a diva she is in real life, I’m guessing she’ll get dragged to the end despite showing little talent besides looks. A combination of PhiPhi and Pearl.

A new podcast with Katya, she talks about her meth relapse and how off the deep-end she went.

Still not convinced she is actually ready to return to the spotlight.

[quote]A combination of PhiPhi and Pearl.

Both of whom made the top 3. Not sure how to feel of Aquaria doing the same.

r78 Meth?! I thought it was just alcohol! Jesus Christ. I bet the orgies were nice, though; she got enough fucking to last her three lifetimes.

She had always been open about being a meth addict r80

I'm Katya's biggest fan but I made it 10 minutes before getting exhausted.

[quote] I made it 10 minutes before getting exhausted.

You're a better man than I am Gunga Din.

Interesting that Katya announced that her Kickstarter-funded show is delayed yet again

I have a hunch that the pressure of the show either caused her relapse or that the relapse was an excuse to scotch the show.

r84 Been listening to that podcast posted upthread (haven't finished it yet) and it sure sounds like a bit of both. Which isn't that unusual as life is messy like that, and doubly so when drugs are involved. No one comes out a winner.

Though I had to laugh at him bitching about not being paid enough, while simultaneously burning cash by buying meth and speed and god knows what else. Honestly, it was like listening to another language to my euro ears; it's scary how proficient you've all become with the names of prescription drugs.

And he isn't sure he knows whom he's attracted to anymore? Was he trying to intimate that he's straight now? He might be clean but that mess needs some serious therapy work to be sorted out.

Just before the hiatus, Katya/Brian posted a photo of him with a guy and described him as his husband.

True? Joke? Drugged out mania?

r86 No, he's never been married. He's single now and there was a restraining order involved against him with one of his boyfriends pre-rehab. Messy, messy drama.

I've had sufficient with this edging bullshit; just air the episode already!

So exciting to think we'll all be chewing up someone alive just a couple of hours from now.

Is there a SJW drag queen this season?

r89 One of them (Vixen?) said she was a 'political queen', which is a bit different from an SJW queen. Bob did political stunts all the time prior to appearing on the show, for example, and he didn't come across as SJW at all.

I want this episode inside my brain already!

Last year, the final two were the biggest SJWs (a pejorative that's getting quite tired, IMO, but I can't find a better fitting term at the moment) of the season. A sign of the times, I guess.

Miz Cracker wrote the slate article on CMBYN being a paedophile'so wet dream. Don't know if that makes her a SJW, but it does make her a MESS.

r92 Eurgh, thank you for reminding me about that. I had completely forgotten about it since it was mentioned in this very thread. She's dead to me.

I wonder if RuPaul will ditch doing drag altogether in the near future. He used to appear regularly in drag (talk shows, award shows, etc) but now only does it for a portion of the Drag Race Show.

I’m sure that he’d love to ditch it forever.

r94 he charges something like $75,000 for appearances in her drag ON TOP of her booking fee. I don't think many outlets are willing to pay for that.

Ru has talked about over and over how he doesn't enjoy doing drag anymore. He does it for the show, that's pretty much it. You notice he will never be in drag for public appearances.

Tyhe Kardashian trash/crash out first. R96 Totally agree, Ru will be out of Drag very soon, 3 years max

Who is the most hated queen in all of dragdom?

r98 hi

To whom are they trying to sell this awful John Cena movie?

That muscle/tats person is the definition of Butterface

This episode is already better than the whole of AS3 and S9, imo.

R101 Kameron Michaels? He looks like Robert Supulveda Jr. GROSS!

R103 That is a really awful thing to say. about anybody.

Untucked is back??

It's back, baby!! Thank God. I love classic, messy, sound effects for days, edited to hell Untucked.

So far a lot of these “more attractive season” queens are a lot better than any of the cute guys on previous seasons.

I wonder what happened to make Jinkx gain so much weight. Hope she’s OK.

Will untucked stay on TV or is it a YouTube thing? Loved when it was back to back

r107 alcoholic and weed. the bitch just likes to eat.

It's on TV, according to the VH1 schedule.

I guess it's not the old UnTucked.

:(

Deal looks well-fed in those movie commercials

Dela not Deal

[quote]I wonder what happened to make Jinkx gain so much weight. Hope she’s OK.

Lol, wonder what happened? Gaining weight isn't hard to figure out, it is annoyingly easy. Enjoy food a little more freely, and you will look up in the mirror on day and realize you aren't as thing as you used to be.

R114 Just meant I hope she’s not depressed or anything. I’m projecting. My mother passed away in January and I’m eating like a horse.

The Vixen deserved to go home.

I’ve seen enough of Dusty, I think.

Early favorites: Cracker, Monet, Mayhem

I like Aquaria, too

“Karbdashian” is a dumb name. Try-hard without the payoff.

R101 is correct. Total butterface

I’ve never not loved Christina

Amen r119

I had a feeling, after watching a few 'Meet the Queens' videos, that the bottom two in the first week would be Kalorie and Vanessa. One is just too amateur while the other is a mess with those fake-ghetto affectations. Vanessa was clearly NOT happy to sashay away, but Kalorie outperformed her fair and square.

At least the Aja of Season 10 went home first

r122 that's an insult to Aja

Michelle attacking Dusty for his make-up was eye-roll inducing.

Ross said it all, if she does that every week you can say something, but for one episode he doesn't do normal "fishy" make-up and she loses her mind.

Vanessa had a lot of charisma. I'd be cool with the show pulling a Shangela and bringing her back for season 11. Kalorie deserved to win that lips synch, but sorry, girl is still filler.

This was a fun first ep. I think Monet is my early favorite.

Questions for Americans on DL, What is the big deal about the name 'Cracker', I just don't get it, the Black Queens are freaking the fuck out. Yours faithfully, A DL from New Zealand.

Cracker is a slur for white people r125, so some of the more polite southern queens feel weird about saying it.

And it was actually one of the black queens, Monet, that called them out about that btw.

r125 I'm not American but I found this explanation on Reddit the other day: it's generally used as a term for white people as white skin "cracks" as it ages. However, in the South, it's associated more with a "whip cracker" and... you know where [italic]that[/italic] comes from.

Speaking of Miz Cracker, what she stopped short of saying was that it was RuPaul himself that made fun of her original drag name! I wonder if that laugh that Ru and Michelle shared was them remembering that.

Speaking of bad drag names, I find Kalorie Karbdashian is trying way too hard.

I take back everything I said before; this looks to be one of the strongest seasons ever. Loved watching Christina having fun. Did you notice Tyra sulking in the background? Eurgh.

I was crying for Matteo at the end. Her attitude lit up the room and she was actually witty, as opposed to her drag mother. Kameron has incredible cheeks and such a warm smile that makes him come across as a well-adjusted person. I regret calling him thirsty and a narcissist. Dusty is gorgeous and I will revolt if he ever sashays away. Monet is beyond talented but needs to keep her ego in check. Ms Cracker... who? I refuse to acknowledge her existence after that article. Looks like the cutest Jewish boy ever (just my type) out of drag but again, dead to me.

Blair is intriguing, but probably too young to project a well-rounded drag persona.

I loved it. Hopefully it won't be spoiled.

Alexis Mateo was one of my favorites. It makes sense I'd like her daughter. Calorie did a nice job in the lip sync, but her actual niceness seemed like a put on to get screen time.

R129 Cracker's article was well done. All gays don't think alike.

And the artist formerly known as Brianna's comedy on the runway was better than the meh CMBYN

Mayhem didn't deserve the win. He got it for the tears/It's my time narrative. Cracker's look was better.

I'm bummed about the departing queen. I loved her personality. But she was outperformed in the lipsync, though by a more basic queen, at least from this episode pre lipsync.

I like that Blair was chanelling a sixties look but not in a cartoonish way. I'm sick of the Jayne Mansfield type looks, mermaid tail dresses etc.

They're going heavy with V's disappointment. I wonder if she might get called back. Maybe someone will have to withdraw - maybe even Eureka again cause of her mother.

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I love hpw they're letting each other have it in Untucked, but in an up, not too dark way.

Monet's dress was very well finished but very unflattering to her figure. Aquiria's look did look a bit "I did this to avoid making a dress. I'm practically naked. Lol." It could have been executed better.

Hoo-ah has to be trans. She knows who she is, though, so I doubt she'll be troublesome to the WoW brand.

Matteo seemed shocked the entire show but she seems to be very sweet. Even if she tries to have a hard outer shell it doesn't work. I hope she comes back. She was a kind soul.

Vanessa has too much personality to be the first to go. The queen that beat her in the lip sync challenge is so forgettable in every other way, but I'm glad Ru did base her judging off of the actual lip sync, which is fair even if disappointing this time.

Vanessa is yet another queen who's a hot boy out of drags.

Alexis Matteo is TERRIBLE.

I hope Miz Cracker wins just for writing the following about CMBYN - completely agree:

The straightness is everywhere in CMBYN once you clear the lust from your eyes. The book was penned by a straight author who says that he has never had a gay relationship in his life, and it tells the story of two apparently heteroflexible but largely hetero-leaning men who seem to experiment with same-sex sex only furtively in their lives. The film is even straighter. Its leading lovers are played by straight actors who have been winking and giggling on the press circuit about having to pretend to (sort of) fuck. Indeed, all “gay” sex takes place off screen—only boy-girl or boy-fruit sex happens within the frame. And the only openly gay characters—a pair of “boyfriend twin-ed” academics who visit Elio’s parents for dinner—are portrayed as ridiculous Tweedledum-and-Tweedledee types.

I don't know how Kalorama can have such a fat ass and not know how to twerk. Her performance was good but that boots shaking was tacky and cringy.

Miz Cracker wrote this: "if we gays love anything, it’s chasing after straight guys."

There is nothing in that statement that is incorrect. Just take a look around these parts.

[quote]you aren't as thing as you used to be.

GURL, neither are YOU!

Vanessa was sweet, lots of potential. I don't dare for Kalorie, a throwaway queen. Dont like the one trying to be Bianca.

Exactly r147. I enjoyed reading Miz Cracker's article, but you of course the Chalamet fangurls don't think you are allowed to critique the movie in any way.

Now I am wondering if Kameron is one of those people whose looks are their personality. Notice he barely talked in the episode and untucked.

r145 Please take that garbage to the actual CMBYN threads, this thread is about Drag Race. Thanks.

I always found Alexis Mateo to be one of the dullest queens ever to be one the show, both in looks and personality. But I was very sad to see Vanessa go. She gave the best sound bites and was different from everyone else on the season. I hope she is brought back somehow.

The Vixen should have been in the bottom 2. Terrible look, terrible execution—and then trying to start drama in Untucked but lacking the wit to make it interesting.

Ms Cracker is my favorite so far. Great look, hilarious runway, unique.

So much Alexis Mateo hate here, she was a strong queen.

Vanessa’s blubbering and sobbing when she was told to sashay. I hope the rest of the queens have a better perspective on life’s ups and downs.

No one wants to be the first eliminated r155. Her drag mom made top 3, she clearly came into this show expecting to be around for a while and now she feels she embarassed herself. It is real, and understandable, emotion.

[quote] Speaking of Miz Cracker, what she stopped short of saying was that it was RuPaul himself that made fun of her original drag name! I wonder if that laugh that Ru and Michelle shared was them remembering that.

It's highly unlikely that RuPaul was manning the RPDR twitter account when that joke was made. More accurately: some intern at LOGO made fun of the name.

Alexis was funny. Her whole take on Raja and the Heathers was so spot on. Considering that English isn't her first language, she was pretty brilliant. She was also helpful an congenial in a very real and natural way.

Okay, I take back what I said about Alexis. It has been a very long time since I've seen her season, so maybe I'm misremembering.

Mea culpa!

My conspiracy theory: Mayhem is here to avenge Raven. It's very well known in the west coast drag scene that her and Raven are sisters and serve up very similar (still different) aesthetics. I ADORE her and, I think it's too early to call out any front runners, but I really, really want to see her go far. She is amazing.

Add me to the list of those who preferred Vanessa. Kalorie pulled the truck off though.

I think The Vixen should’ve been in the bottom over Dusty though. Her entrance AND runway looks were cheap as fuck. Don’t get why Visage was so upset w Dusty’s makeup. It’s not like this is week four and he’s still doing the same look.

These queens are all so cute and so young. Having trouble differentiating who is who yet. Not many standouts ala a Sharon, Alaska, Ben, Chad yet. Kind of a wash of drag I've seen before.

Loving Blair.

The RPDR subreddit had been coming for Blair hard over the fact she got a DUI. Sure it isn't a good thing, but how many people have driven when they were at .08 or above. A lot of us could've gotten a DUI at some point in our lives. Seemed overly sanctimonious to me.

That said, I didn't think Blair should have bene in the top 3.

The Drag Race subreddit.... sanctimonious?? Perish the thought!

Visage has pretty much fallen into self-parody territory at this point.

Vixen is probably going to last, at most, two or three more episodes.

Vixen is a shit-stirrer, they'll keep her around.

Add me to someone who really liked Alexis Mateo. Just the right amount of shade, delivered well. She had everyone's number but wasn't a total bitch about it. My dad called this "The raised middle finger in the velvet glove" when my mom employed it. Plus her delivery of "Come home, papi" was a classic.

So that Untucked was CRAZY. And I was loving every second of it! This sure isn't the ninth season anymo... oh, wait, cancer talk. But those black queens sure are loud, aren't they? Dusty and Kameron didn't get a single word in; they're just waiting for the other bottoms to take each other out first. Kalorie the bitch was kept in because she causes drama, I'm sure. Vixen is the cutest thing out of drag but she's also the biggest shit-stirrer of them all, which is a total turnoff.

Christina looked like an old grandma backstage. She badly needed a corset and a better bra.

Handsome PAs are back!

Love how they just cut off that one irrelevant queen on the left in this promo shot. Who the hell was that filler queen, anyway? I swear someone mentioned her name as part of her drag family. Peppermint is missing in the photo.

Derrick Barry had no idea what to do with himself during those montages.

Straight A from the AV Club is a promising sign!

I thought Mimi ImFurst was among the most hated? His/her real first name is Braden, who besides some yuppy douche bags names their kid Braden?

R169, that is Victoria "Porkchop" Parker. She's a total sweetheart. One of the kindest queens around.

r172 I feel like you're messing with me for some reason. Why do I not remember her at all?!

Also, if that's Porkchop, where the hell is Mimi Imfurst then?

Only a handful of queens were either invited back or decided to make the trip.

No Mimi, no Shannel, no Shangela, no Glasscock....

Props to Christina for going along with the Farrah Moan joke. Not a lot of women would want to have their appearance compared to that of a man, no matter how fishy that man looks.

[quote]I feel like you're messing with me for some reason. Why do I not remember her at all?!

Ru shouts her out every finale. "Hey, Porkchop!"

r175 I feel like that was true in the first few seasons, but drag is so mainstream by now that you'd [italic]really[/italic] need to be anal to get offended by that.

r173, I'm not. Porkchop was in the episode last night in the shiny dress.

[quote]but drag is so mainstream by now

Ding. Ding.

While I was impressed by the judges who were good sports in the early seasons, at this point this show has become so damn mainstream.

Eureka is no longer Eureka O'hara?

Only one O'Hara allowed per season—PhiPhi's rules!

I hope Kameron’s nudes leak soon

Porkchop was the very first queen ever eliminated in season 1. She's such a great sport

I'm the OP and predicted Vanessa would sashay .............. BUT that was based on the Meet The Queens videos.

Once I saw their workroom entrances, I changed my mind to The Vixen because I thought her look was baaaad (shads of Dash Exclamation Point) .................... having seen her actual runway look and her bitchiness on Untucked, I wish she'd been bottom two and gone home. I liked Vanessa's personality more, even though her drag wasn't great.

Kameron Michaels is exhibiting 'Miss Fame Personality Disorder' and I'm not expecting a lot right now.

Kalorie may not make it if she's bottom two again. Decent lip sync with a "Sasha's Roses" moment thrown in with the dollar bills.

I think Dusty and Blaire are both pretty cute boys.

Aquaria is full of herself ............... and thus far her 'safe' vs. Miz Cracker's top look equate to a lip sync where Miz Cracker takes Aquaria out of the race.

So apparently Dusty Ray Bottoms has an amateur XXX tape where he's topping a pornstar. If someone can find that video and share with the class, please?

[quote]So apparently Dusty Ray Bottoms has an amateur XXX tape where he's topping

What happened to truth in advertising?

Monique Heart's eyes in response to the other queens' shade bites were everything. I just want her to say 'Feed me, Seymore!' one time.

Out of all the songs in Christina Aguilera's catalog, why did they choose that one? Even the Old Faithful stunts during the lip sync felt underwhelming.

There are so

Christina looked pretty. I guess she filmed this before fucling up her face with injectables for that Whitney tribute.

I had a really hard time telling the contestants apart. I actually thought there were many more than usual, but it may be because they just aren’t distinctive looking. Most of the ones I remember best have distinctive faces (Alaska, Detox, Chad, Bon, Bianca, Aja...I guess Ben is sort of an exception since he’s not too unusual looking). Most of these are just blandly conventional looking.

I liked the Vixen's look. It was not a Shangela style constructed mess. Even the way she arranged the sponge circles and flowers that were around her clavicle showed some composition skill. Kalorie's look, not a trace of that.

Here's Xtina's gay ex

And his bf

Together, either pre- or post-fucking.

r185 Please don't let it be Billy Santoro and please let it be Griffin Barrows.

Also, I'd just need the name of that porn star and I'd post it here immediately. You can't do shit without a name.

Xtina and Farrah

Blair doesn't seem to have a lot of personality - yet - but she knows how to beat a face. At this point, most of the queens are pretty skilled and they know the drill, so Michelle has to really reach to find something to clock them on.

Where’s the Dusty Ray sex tape?

I forgot how much I love Christina. She's real.

The GoneWildRPDR subreddit posts nudes, but they don't have any yet for Dusty Ray. In the meantime, here's Aja's weenie.

r200 Thanks. Big cock but damn does that combination with the long nails make me want to vomit.

Did someone say elsewhere on here violet had posed for pron?

India Ferrah (Season 3) and his bf

India (top right) and bf (lower left)

r204 Juiciest cock ever. That lucky bitch. Still don't recall her, though.

Please don’t post the Jade Jolie porn pics. Urf.

India was the queen from S3 who got picked up and slung around by Mimi Imfurst during their LSFYL.

"GET HER OFFA ME!"

Agreed, R206. Also, please do not post Detox's porn pics either.

India "I paid $500 for this breastplate and I'm gonna wear it" Ferrah

r207 Thanks! She's drag royalty just because of that.

It was $600, R209. SIX HUNDRED WHOLE DOLLARS for those boobs!

What are all the bumps on Aja's dick @ r200?

Farrah’s home decor in r203 is horrid. Marilyn Monroe “art”. How gauche.

India looks hot. Don’t remember her being hot on her season.

r212 Fordyce spots.

Great first episode. Looks like the show is back to being great (so far), specially after the last few underwhelming seasons. I'm rooting for the Indiana twink and/or Miss Cracker (such quick wit, reminds me of Bianca's). Sad to see the latino one leave. She wasn't all that, but she was entertaining. Should have been Vixen, her outfit was horrible.

India Farrah and her bf post pics like that online because they’re looking for thirds and group scenes, right?

There are too many queens right now to distinguish one from the other.

Some of those boys are really cute.

Miz Cracker is really fun. She's bitchy and subversive - Bob's daughter for sure. She and Asia are my early favorites. Smart of her to post these reviews after her season filmed but before it aired. All Stars gave her the excuse to subtly shade how the show and the queens manipulate the audience. I am still mad over what All Stars 3 did to the heart of Shangela, but Season 10 feels like a whole new game.

Vanessa having to open the door herself while carrying her stuff was so gross to see. Unnecessarily humiliating. Where was the cute PA who had done this previously?

Alexis Mateo was a highlight for me during her season. “I’m a fucking drag queen!”

Alexis was a welcome relief from "Oh, I am so above all this," Raja, the ugly inside and out sow Delta Werk, and all the other heather BS

It was disappointing that Manilla participated in that Heather horseshit.

[quote]The moment that one friend you shared a secret with tells all your other friends about it (right in front of you)

God damn, that subreddit can be so witty sometimes. This effect looks exactly what it feels like when the shit hits the fan, bigly. And I still can't believe this 12-year-old has a DUI under her belt already. That's so hilarious to me.

LOL at Blair clutching the couch with both hands! She knows danger is a-coming!

I can't help but a little weirded out when I see Blair and his boyfriend together. Just because Blair looks so damn young which makes it seem creepy.

Gays, please stop sitting on Santa’s lap. And don’t have your pet sit on his lap, either.

[quote]There are too many queens right now to distinguish one from the other.

Yeah, when I started familiarizing myself with this season's cast, I was having trouble with the three black queens who all have names starting with M. It doesn't help that two of them have very similar names (Monet and Monique). Hearing them speak is making it easier, since Monet sounds like Bob and Monique is SO LOUD.

Kameron and Dusty Ray also need to distinguish themselves from one another, although Dusty is far cuter as a boy.

Vixen stands out on her own by how busted she is.

r226 It's like seeing a clip from Arrested Development where a totally innocent thing comes off as spine-tinglingly creepy, and everyone involved is completely clueless about it. And I can only buy Blair being his actual age when I see him as a lesbian. Otherwise, no. Just no.

Boyfriend looks Australian.

Yeah Bob and Monet are undeniably similar. They look similar, sound similar, have similar personalities. Monet's drag is different though, Bob never would have gone for that sponge look.

Monique is LOUDNESS personified.

Someone somewhere mentioned that Kameron doesn't have a personality but perhaps that just comes from the (American?) mentality that loudness equals personality? We'll see. Loved Tom of Tom&Lorenzo mentioning on their podcast that he had made the mistake of going to Kameron's Insta and said it was an absolute thirst trap.

Girl, they are drag queens r231. You expect them to have a loud personality r231. A drag queen is supposed to be able to command attention in a crowded bar of drunk people.

I was shocked at how much of a wallflower Kameron was in this episode. Even when they tried to give him an opening in Untucked he had nothing to say. It was their first days there though, maybe he will loosen up.

I don't think KimChi has a 'loud personality' and she seems to be doing just fine. In any case, I was talking about volume levels, not loudness of personality.

R169 Who is the redhead directly beneath Chad Michaels? Jiggly has her hand on the shoulder? I recognize all the other queens but that one. HELP!

Pandora Boxx from Season 2.

That's Pandora? I don't recognize her.... wow!

Pandora looks like she got in drag as part of a mini-challenge.

Monet channels Sheryl Lee Ralph while in drag. Bob channels... someone named Bob.

Pandora Boxx was the original internet fan favorite. So many people were internet-rioting when she was eliminated. She had a big fall from grace though, now no one really cares about her.

I love how Rupaul says Yuhua's name.

Pandora still gets to tour with the big ones, though. I guess she's still cool with TPTB.

The way Ru say "dollars" in a pseudo British accent... is that a takeoff of a specific person or character?

I wonder if Kimchi is still a virgin? Or if her mom knows about her drag persona?

I know that some of you like Bob but I think that Monet is way more talented and likable.

I also like how Trixie refers to Monet as “Pretty Bob.”

I like what I see of Monet, but I'll need to see more before I think she is more talented than Bob.

As Thorgy would say, Season 8 was the Bob show, none of the rest of them could compare when it came to comedy/acting.

Yeah, we're going to need to see the "talent" challenges, in particular the Snatch Game, to see if Monet can live up to how Bob did in S8. Ironically, given what we saw with the sponge dress, I see Monet having the same struggles Bob did two years ago, in that she may not be able to deliver glamour as well.

Re: Kim Chi. She's a makeup artist first, and not so much a live performer. You don't need to be loud to do makeup and execute looks, but it does help if you want to command a room in a public space.

[quote]Or if her mom knows about her drag persona?

IMO that cost her from being a serious consideration for the crown. Ru won't give it to someone who is in the drag closet with their own mother.

Oh, forgot to add one more thing about Monet - because she reminds everyone of Bob, I'd be very surprised if she won. As would they have two winners who look, act and talk so much alike within three years? Could easily see her being a runner-up, though.

Asia is far more attractive and interesting than Monet and Bob was a dog. They threw out any notion that you had to know how to do makeup or wigs or drag on the runway the season that Bob won. Yes, I know he's elevated "his drag" since winning. In other words he has a full time makeup artist, wigmaker and a stylist. Bob is not a drag queen then or now. Like his nemesis Thorgy and not a few others he is a frustrated theater kid who used drag to get the attention his talent alone wouldn't earn. Bob and Bianca have nothing in common to me. Bianca is a legit comedienne and beautiful designer who always did great polished drag. Bob has much more in common with Thorgy, Mimi Imfurst and Trixie. If that homely Tracey dude could succeed as a folk/country artist with his bitter gay boy personality he'd never paint his face again. His stepfather called him Trixie. Alert Adler and Horney and Jung. Trixie's drag is elevated now too, but it's still a desperate juvenile performance. He actually thinks he won something. Watch out for a future breakdown from Uncle Fester Martell.

The reason some people don't like Shangela is just her plain naked ambition and slightly robotic style of being multi-talented. She's a real actor and actress and dancer and performer. He doesn't need drag to complete his personality but she works hard to be the best and likes the applause.

They have some real Drag Queens this season with a variety of aesthetics and talents. Some great constructs and some promising personalities. RuPaul is a piece of shit though. The contestants are going to make this season work.

I miss Luke.

[quote]They threw out any notion that you had to know how to do makeup or wigs or drag on the runway the season that Bob won.

I guess you missed Season 5.

Ugh, those tats on some of the girls are horribly low-class and trashy.

[quote]Eureka is no longer Eureka O'hara?

I assume it is just Eureka because Asia O'Hara is there, and Eureka is not part of that drag family. They don't want to confuse people.

I also thought it was funny given how many references to drag families there was in the pilot, Asia didn't want to mention that Phi Phi was her drag daughter. I guess she might not be so proud of that given Phi Phi's behavior on the show.

I didn't see the season(s) Phi Phi was on, why is she so universally hated?

[quote]I didn't see the season(s) Phi Phi was on

You should fix that. Season 4 and All Stars 2 are iconic seasons.

Phi Phi is one the all-time great Reality TV villains.

She really is. And one of all-time hottest guys out of drag as well, in my eyes. One of those lucky bitches who just radiate sex appeal, regardless of their personality.

R257 is Phi Phi

Can confirm; am Phi Phi.

AMA!

r242 that is an 80s uptown ball emcee accent

Looking at Asia's IG feed, I have a feeling she'll be snatching the crown. She pulls off concepts that Ru loves and seems to have the "camera ready" personality down. We'll see how boring she actually is, though.

R260 Ru kinda steals everything

Preview of next ep

What is with the affinity for these country western settings? A minor competition variable I've always noticed.

Loving these previews. Kalorie and Vixen are such shit stirrers, dear god. Andy Cohen nearly ruined another episode of TV for me in two weeks.

Eureka should have won that mini challenge; she looked like the very essence of redneck Americana.

Yeah Vixen is going out of the way to be a proud shit-stirrer. It was amusing he shaded season 9 queens in the first episode for being too nice.l

The Vixen should try harder at drag instead of fake reality TV drama

Vixen has a great face shape for drag and according to the RuPaul she can dance, but that's about it. Eureka deserved to win that mini challenge, not to be picked last. Still picking Asia and Miz Cracker as top 3 contenders. Malaria and her neck tutting is already old. Other than Kalorie and the muscle boy they all make a good impression so far. The one who reminds of Bob has charm and charisma to burn, but alas he reminds everyone too much of the far less charming BOB.

Season Ten is a winner baby. You can feel it. They need it too. RuPaul is busy collecting awards and acting very out of character. Bitch never could take a bit of criticism. Funny, that lead in where he makes fun of last weeks eliminated contestant. Vangie. "I didn't catch her name." Ru doesn't give a fuck about any of them and Michelle is there to keep the empire running and get to know and befriend the girls. Shy and spiritual Ru is dining out with all the worst people these days and claiming to be punk rock in interviews. How OLD and establishment does that make him sound? Ru makes Tyra Banks seem sincere.

[quote]It was amusing he shaded season 9 queens in the first episode for being too nice.

Ya Vixen is a mess but I'm glad that she saw S9 for what it was and is determined to not see S10 go down the same path, because N-O-N-E of us want that. DL fave Bob said it best at last year's Queens of Comedy show: "They're always fucking apologizing for something. 'Sorry I called you fat. Sorry I called you old. Sorry I sent you home.' This is the sorriest group of bitches I've ever seen in my life!"

Andy Cohen.... great. And another DL icon, Nico Tortellini, is going to be a guest judge at some point this season too.

I don't know why but it shocked me to learn that Ru had never seen "Angels in America" until the opening night of the current revival.

I thought Ru looked like he was crying when Vangie went home. Was it laughter?

To be clear, Ru asking Michelle about Vanjie's name was obviously a joke because Vanjie said it three times as she was leaving. So that's not an indication of how much she cares about the queens. It was laughter, r271.

And Vanjie making a meme-able quote for the ages out of her own name in her final seconds on the show... that shit takes an enterprising and legendary queen to make happen, you have to admit. She better be a lock for All Stars 4, coming this May.

Legendary??? Legs and Dairy!

[quote] She better be a lock for All Stars 4, coming this May.

All stars? No, she should be brought back for a normal season so she is given a chance to prove herself. Is the word all stars becoming completely meaningless.

I loved the mess that is Vanjie.

R264 Well Ru Paul lives on a Ranch with his husband. He clearly has a cowboy fantasy.

r274 I was joking. She's a lovable mess but she's not for Drag Race. And that's perfectly fine; doesn't mean she's bad at drag.

I'd love to see Miss Vanjie come back next season a la Shangela. I'm sure they can pull the box out of Logo's storage closet.

I agree, Miss Vanjie was a bit rough around the edges but she had tons of charisma. I'd like to see her given another chance.

Why does anyone have to be voted off at all? Tens across the board! Crowns for all the queens!

Pardon my ignorance but who is the queen shown in the still for OP's video link?

r281 I believe that's Kalorie.

[quote]I'm sure they can pull the box out of Logo's storage closet.

I'm equally sure there are many, many boxes in Logo's storage closet.

TY....

Looking forward to Alyssa Edwards as the choreographer.

Todrick just released some new music. Maybe he’s too big for Drwg Race.

R242, Ru is referencing Joan Collins from Dynasty - her character was always in the casinos of Monte Carlo and would say dollars alot, pronounced in the British accent, for large sums of money. .

This show is like crack for me and I'm anxiously counting down the hours right now. I finally understand why people get addicted to reality TV; my brain has been rewired to crave drama on a weekly basis.

Vanjie needs another shot next season. If Cucu got one, then Vanjie defo deserves one. I kinda liked her Puertorican loudness and Rosie Perez-like accent. Definitely very different than soft spoken Alexis Mateo.

Soft spoken Alexis Matteo? What?

Why the sudden love and affection for booger filler queens like Vanjie and Aja? This didn’t happen during the early seasons. No one cried when Jade Jolie and Leila McQueen were told to sashay away.

Miss Vanjie had the best confessional soundbites and the most iconic exit from the runway of all-time. R290, sashay away.

r290 I don't see what the two have to do with each other. I can't stand the sight of Aja but thought Vanjie was a decent drag queen and amiable as a person, with some nice confessional soundbites like r291 said.

I've said it before but I'll never understand the Aja hate so many of you have.

[quote]If Cucu got one

Ugh, don't remind me. Cucu being brought back for another season was so incredibly pointless.

I will add one more thing. You know Ru and Michelle assumed Vanjie was going to send Kalorie home, that is what they wanted to happen.

Vanjies lipsync was not good. That is on her.

Sob sisters. Aja was busted but she proved herself to be better than mediocre on All Stars 3. Was she an All Star? Hell no. Vangie deserves to be brought back the way that little silicone bubble one was brought back. Natasha Lyonne? Perhaps Vangie didn't deserve to be eliminated first. They can bring her back and eliminate her third. This is not anyone to get all jacked up on. They look at the footage and decide on the fly. That's why Trixie came back to fail again and then for her All Stars 3 FIXED win. Even when they brought back the reasonably successful Kenya Michaels and that Heather tranny, they both were eliminated the same episode they returned.

When Alyssa and Tatianna were revived in All Stars 2 they BOTH should have stayed until the end, but that's why the next challenge winners, Alaska and Detox, voted them off the island ASAP.

They know who is going to win the season now long before the viewers do. No need to send people home twice. It's a bit cruel. Shangela has failed 3 times even though the whole fucking world saw her WIN.

Fucking ANDY COHEN??’

You’re dead to me, Ru.

Didn't Mayhem win the first challenge? Why is she next to last to be picked for the teams?

Andy looks like a midget and he can’t dance.

Kalorie is a very sexy young man

[quote]Fucking ANDY COHEN??

They lunch together at the Chateau Marmont!

Hopefully this is the last year of "musicals". This is running FAR TOO LONG! And it really is not funny.

Shangela lost of her own accord. She saved Trixie and then all the other queens rejected her

Padma is a fantastic judge. You can tell that she's a fan of the show—which we know cause she comments on various queens' Instagram posts.

OMG COURTNEY LOVE

More hollerin and wig snatching, less tears and sobbing

I didn't get her name. What was it?

Vangie, Miss Vaanngie, Miss VAAAngie, MISS VAAAANGIE!

You better stop.

Kameron who has been so forgettable came alive in that challenge. He probably should have won.

Having a best drag runway for episode 2 is a bad call, you can tell most queens played it safe and saved their best shit for later.

It was nice to see Alyssa, bringing alums back to coach is something the show should do.

apparently the actual theme was SIGNATURE DRAG. lord knows why Ru was told to say Best

Eureka is such a fucking whiner.

Eureka is DEEP in Mimi Imfurst territory after tonight's episode...

On tonight's Untucked, when Kalorie broke down while filming her exit from the studio, the producer who helped her pull herself together is none other than the adorable Rizzo, a.k.a. Miss Glittafa Dayze, Trinity's partner from last season's makeover challenge.

R311 - I hope Winter Green makes an appearance!

So far Im putting Cracker and the LA queen (Mayhem?) as top 3 material. Not sure about the last one I would put here.

I Love Alyssa Edwards. That's an All Star Drag Queen. He's so homely and dumb - she's so gorgeous and funny.

Alyssa Edwards is an excellent teacher. Lady Gaga was another one in the show who was an excellent teacher also. If they werent famous they would make great teachers.

The Vixen is a bitch, but I'm kinda of in awe of her refusal to allow this season to become the boring lovefest of the past few ones. Respect to that.

Who is the hottest out of drag this season?

The show is so self referential at this point, it's almost as if Drag Race is it's own little TV universe.

Easily Dusty Ray r317, he is so damn cute.

[quote]The show is so self referential at this point, it's almost as if Drag Race is it's own little TV universe.

We are on the 13th season of this show now, they might as well lean in their own history.

The queens LIE. Don't try to tell Calorie she's a star now. Filler queens are filler queens. She'll be sitting at Dragcon without a line of fans and most likely won't be on the tour long (if at all).

She was crushed and had a right to be. This is not going to propel her to any greater level, unless she goes for it and makes her move to a bigger city. Otherwise, she'll be the biggest thing in New Mexico and nothing more.

She is definitely no drag race superstar, but just getting on this show is a huge deal for these drag queens. Elevates your brand to a much higher level.

So yeah, out of her depth and it was her time, but she is no longer anonymous queen in bar X.

Agree with r307. Kameron was a revelation for me this episode. He's a great dancer and did you see how quickly he switched from being a wallflower to his character while they were practising with Alyssa? It took him a second to possess his character completely. That's pretty impressive. A narcissist or not, he's a pro performer for sure. Plus, he knows he's quiet which shows some self-awareness and that's always promising (ahem, PhiPhi).

r311 Dreamy Rizzo didn't help her with shit. He just told her where to stand until the cameras started rolling. Honestly, that breakdown was uncomfortable to watch for me; this is Drag Race, not In Treatment.

Ru is posting lots of Vanjie, Vanjie, Vanjie me-mes.

Yeah, Ru was obviously quite taken with Vanjie. It is a done deal now she will be brought back for next season.

Also, Ru really seems taken with Aquaria which caught me off guard. You don't often hear Ru going on about how he finds a queen very exciting.

I agree that the response to Miss Vanjie from the fans *and* from Ru pretty much guarantees she will be offered a Shangela.

I hope that Aquaria doesn’t get an unfair edit like Courtney Act.

Miss Vanjie's accent is hilarious. Almost Rosie Perez-esque.

Am I the only one hearing a bit of Rosie O'Donnell in there as well? She's so cartoonish I do hope they bring her back next season.

Was Blair St. Clair born male? Out of drag, she looks like a little soft butch lesbian girl or an FTM.

Still early ............. before episode five, Ru can pick up the phone and say 'How soon can you get here, Vanjie.... Vanjie ...............Vaaaaaaangie ??'

R330: It might be that Ru didn't hop on the Vanjie-wagon until the episode had already aired and she saw the fan response—in which case that wouldn't be possible, as they filmed months and months ago.

Anyway, I'm tired of the schtick of returning queens in the middle of a season. Just send her an invite to S11.

[quote]Anyway, I'm tired of the schtick of returning queens in the middle of a season.

Bringing queens back after they miss a couple episodes has always been a pointless. They always go home again soon after returning.

I mean when Morgan was brought back after missing every challenge in AS3, it's like girl please, you aren't going to win now.

[quote]I mean when Morgan was brought back after missing every challenge in AS3, it's like girl please, you aren't going to win now.

To be fair, Morgan seemed well-aware of that fact. It was Ben's fault for choosing her.

Elimination needs to be final if it is to have any real weight and fairness to it. Bring her back next season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vanjie gets voted Miss Congeniality this year. She's THAT popular right now on social media. And to do that in just one episode is the making of a great queen. She may not be there yet, but she'll get there with some time and polish. Defo bring her next year. Of the first eliminated queens, only Shangela and Vanjie oozed such charisma. Vanjie almost reminds one of the Paris is Burning queens, very rought around the edges but with tons of charisma.

[quote]I wouldn't be surprised if Vanjie gets voted Miss Congeniality this year. She's THAT popular right now on social media.

The key is right now. Give it time, the internet moves on.

Anyway, I'd put money that Miz Cracker has Miss C locked up. She has all the makings of an internet fan favorite.

[quote]Anyway, I'd put money that Miz Cracker has Miss C locked up. She has all the makings of an internet fan favorite.

She would have to miss out on making Top 3 for that to happen. I think she will make Top 3.

That ratings for Season 10 have been disappointing. Hopefully that will cause VH1 to think milking the franchise so much that there are seasons back to back isn't the best idea.

Jesus, is Eureka a disappointment. Only two episodes in and it's clear she's no winner.

And that runway look was awful. Really Eureka, that's all you got bitch? First a chicken outfit and then that? I 'm pissed that Eureka is taking the place of some more deserving queen, I mean if you hurt yourself doing a challenge and have to be removed TOUGH SHIT fat ass! Why should you get to come back? It's just thinning the herd of the weaker heifers!

And Kalorie Karbdashian has to be the worst drag name ever - fuck New Mexico's drag scene. That state doesn't deserve a gay community much less a drag scene if Kalorie is one of the top queens in the state. THAT'S JUST SAD!

Vanjie will be long forgotten by the tween fanbase in a week or two.

Yeah there was a very short-lived outcry over Jaymes Mansfield's elimination last year and #justiceforjaymes didn't exactly take off like #justicefortrixie did two years before. Jaymes did not return for S10 nor will she ever be an All-Star.

Yeah, but did Ru tweet about James Mansfield over and over? 8 tweets and retweets about Vanjie in a row.

We'll see what happens.

Miss Vanjie has taken off in a way Jaymes never came close to approaching. Not to mention that Jaymes didn't give us an iconic meme.

RuPaul tweeted, "At lunch with friends, funny how quickly the conversation turns to Miss Vanjie."

She's coming back for another season—trust and believe.

God, I hope not. There was nothing about Vanjie's drag that was interesting, plus she never shut up.

Every group needs a motormouth; it is known.

I never understood the queens' complaints about Eureka talking all the time until I saw last night's episode. She just would not shut up and let the leader of the group do her work. It was painful to watch and I can't imagine how much more irritating this has to be in person.

Eureka had problems shutting up in Season 9, too.

Vanjie is/was a very common name in the Navajo tranny community. I lived in NM and hung out with many at "The Cruise" off central in Albuquerque.

Well, I know what queen SHOULD be on Season 11:

MEATBALL!

Just saying her name makes me laugh.

I know it's real emotions and I can empathize with the eliminated queens, but man Kalorie's elimination was really hard to watch, almost cringe-worthy. He's a real damaged individual (not of his own fault, but because people in general are cruel and assholes). I was a hard watch :(

R348 That clip made me pee a little.

HOLY SHIT the SEASON 4 FINALE (I've been re-watching past seasons) IS LEGENDARY!!!! When Jiggly and Chad Michaels tell Phi Phi how they feel watching the season air, and then WILLAM goes into his EPIC monologue ending with coining the word "Rupaulogize" is riveting - that first live finale is still hard to beat. The entire audience is against Phi Phi and it's both delicious and cringe inducing at the same time.

I'm loving this season so far. I can't stand Eureka though why is she still on?

I'm liking Miz Cracker more than Aquaria. I love that Vixen called her out when she tried to play the "somebody mentioned that Cracker's make-up looked like mine" no bitch YOU SAID IT not somebody. Then Aquaria ran off with Vixen yelling after her "why you runnin' away?"

I hope Cracker goes farther than Aquaria, that would wipe that condescension outta her mouth!

I'm in love with the Vixen.

I can see Miz Cracker sending Aquaria home at some point, probably late in the season. Neither are leaving anytime soon.

Thank fucking God I haven't seen any spoilers. I'm loving this season if if I don't know anyone's names yet

r357 I'm sure someone will post them in this thread shortly and then a second poster will have a full-blown freakout over me politely asking to please keep the spoilers in the spoiler thread. Happens every single season, without fail. Ruined Ben's exit for me way in advance and sucked all the fun and drama out of that moment. I guess unmoderated anonymous boards always carry that danger of getting blindsided with a spoiler, especially as the spoiler tag isn't an option.

But yes, I'm also loving this season and don't understand why it's getting low ratings. Do people find the concept stale, are the judges bad, or what exactly?

[quote]I'm also loving this season and don't understand why it's getting low ratings.

AS3 was such a bore and a disappointment that it doesn't surprise me that some viewers may have temporarily abandoned ship.

However, I do think the number of people watching is underreported based on the ratings—seeing as it's become such a huge thing to watch in gay bars. They get packed to the gills.

Blair is so adorable with that one pair of shoes she's got. She also doesn't have a bad bone in her body, does she? Honestly, I enjoy people like her far more than shit stirrers who just exhaust me at this point.

Blair is a cute queen but she was the weakest performance in the winning team, I don't think she has the chops.

r361, Yes for a Broadway queen, she can't dance at all? WTF? She looked like she was going with Broken Doll Realness.

She’s a “Broadway Queen” because she knows all the words on the Wicked cast recording.

Just started this season. The First Episode challenge of the Ball Runway was really entertaining! Lots of talented girls.

Miss Vanjie is HUGE on social media. It's basically guaranteed she returns next season.

Miz Cracker has a hot li'l body.

Kameron admits that she was nervous and quiet, which is why she has been getting no airtime on the show.

I found the interview that came from

About the ratings: The highest rated episode of Drag Race ever was 895K which was during All Stars 3. The first episode of season 10 got 785K but last week's episode dropped down to 581K. I actually the think the switch to 90 minute episodes has played a role in the decreased ratings, also I personally think the show should have stayed on Logo.

All Stars definitely needs a year off before coming back. And the regular one needs new elements to freshen things up, and by that I don't mean more twists. Perhaps they need to hop on the Roseanne bandwagon? But how would that work? Cast Trump-supporting queens? Would you watch that? Or should this oasis remain an oasis, despite the falling ratings?

One year? I think there should be a similar hiatus between AS1 and AS2 (i.e. four years). That way you won't have a bunch of middle-of-the-road queens competing.

Unfortunately, the new elements being discussed are going in the compleTely opposiTe direcTion of having Trump-supporting queens.

The ratings situation isn't complicated. All Stars 2 was the best ever ratings, then season 9 was the best ever ratings, then AS3 was the best ever ratings.

However towards the end of AS3 ratings started to fall, not surprising, the latter of half AS3 was considered pretty weak.

Now for the first time we head directly into a new season with zero hiatus to build up hype again and give people a break between drag race, and the ratings are in the same place they were at the end of AS3.

The falling ratings are because of how the show forced Sasha Velour down our throats in Season 9, robbing Trinity or Sasha of their win (they were afraid to eliminate Peppermint in the normal way) and then tore the crown away from Shangela in the shitshow that was All Stars 3. That's the truth. Many of the most watched reviewers have said that the show is now completely in the hands of the very young on-line fans. Raja and Raven, The Pit Stop and any other WOW product has been told to get in line with whatever is decided. It's all rigger morris and the show itself has become cowardly. RuPaul is not counterculture now that he gathers Emmys and Stars on the Walk of Fame and takes every magazine cover he can get. He never did care for the individual queens, when he had Jinkx on his podcast he didn't remember that she won her season! Now he doesn't even care if he gets it right. Shangela having that crown snatched off her head in such a stupid way turned a lot of people off. Something about it felt heartless. The fix was in starting in All Stars 2. Alaska should have been kicked off when she fell into the bottom, but that was not allowed. When these veteran bitches start talking, watch out. It's too bad because the Season 10 cast is the best they've had since season 6. But I still expect strange eliminations and a what the fuck winner like Aquaria. I am not a Shangela stan btw. Get over that but if anyone exemplified what it meant to work hard and EARN your place at the top, she did. Shangela doesn't need the prize money, he's the hardest working queen in the franchise along with Bianca. He deserved he crown though and not to have the Z level queens beneath him decide who wins because the internet kids wanted Trixie. Seriously people are turned off by Ru's dishonesty and weird way of responding to recent criticism. Mama Ru he's not.

It could be that r373.... or it could be for the simple fact that there is no hiatus, they are cramming seasons back-to-back on the audience.

Occam's razor, the simplest explanation is usually the best.

Except that I'm right R374.

[quote]Your posts are very very very supportive of the show.......

If you say so. Seems weird you want to encourage stalking, when your DL posts are only about this show, which is way more bizarre.

But anyway, carry on, yes of course your opinion is 100% right dear and how dare anyone say otherwise.

[quote]It's all rigger morris

I would seriously like to know what you think that phrase even means r373.

“Rigger Morris” is a Drag Race meme, dear.

"Rigga morris" = Drag Race slang originated by Miss Alyssa Edwards

My posts on DL aren't all about this show R376? I didn't stalk you little baby, but every time I posted my OPINION, you have immediately clapped back at me and offered up your infantile support for all the worst players. I recognized your condescension and confirmed it.

Ratings shmatings, only two episodes in and this season feels like a return to gold. All Stars 3 was a shit show, but it was EVENT television viewing. This new season makes me yearn for an ALL STARS season that's just done straight forward - with no gimmicks or twists. But I agree they need to take a couple of years break before All Stars 4. I'm loving the VULTURE.COM recaps - there as entertaining as the show itself and written by true fans of the show it seems. I love their take on Eureka in episode 2:

"Unfocused, preoccupied, and emotional, this is not the Elephant Queen we know, and she better be counting her lucky stars that the Lip Sync for Your Life exists. She was far and away the least prepared, worst performance in the challenge, and her decision to wear a color-changing bodysuit that barely reads on camera as her best drag (?!) reveals serious concerns about her judgment. Luckily, she’ll have more time to glow back up to the champion we know she can be, but this was tough to watch from top to bottom."

And their breakdown of the Cracker/Aquaria dynamic stirred by The Vixen is delish.

they're not there

fucking spelling

r381 That's a nice recap and it's unfortunate that it has zero comments. Seems like everyone - Redditors and Twitterati aside - gathers under the AV Club's recap instead.

I am hoping if Miss Vanjie does come back, it is for Season 12. She needs to stay in the oven and bake a little longer.

I was thinking today, it would be fun if there was a short season of Snatch Game ...... maybe eight episodes where a winner was declared in each of the first seven episodes and then they competed in the last episode for a season winner.

A lot of the queens could come back to complete in the first seven episodes (nearly fifty) and the show could be an hour long, with the queens showing up in the workroom to get their celebrity drag on, etc.

Even queens that didn't make it to the Snatch Game episode could return and complete

The idea is all yours VH1/Rupaul (you wouldn't even have to get into drag for it)

[quote] it would be fun if there was a short season of Snatch Game

People look at Snatch Game through rose-tinted glasses. Yes you have a small percentage of really funny performances, but most peoples Snatch Games are cringe-worthy or forgettable.

I propose a "flyover season" where they only cast queens from... well, flyover states. Blair's from Indiana and look at how well-behaved she is. Because there's no way they could ever compete otherwise in a season stacked with NYC and Chicago queens.

Wouldn't that be interesting? I'd watch the shit out of that and I'm sure some of that sweet Roseanne audience would tune in as well.

Lmao, like Roseanne audience would ever see a show, like Bianca Del Rio, said of grown men competing in a crossdressing competition!!!

Season 8 had three New York girls, Season 9 had 4, and now Season 10 has 5. You are getting less geographic diversity.

r370 has to be a straight woman.

I think going right from AS3 to Season 10 was a mistake. There needs to be more build up between seasons. Even Project Runway usually a two or three month break between a regular season and AS season. My problem with Drag Race is since the switch to VH1 I feel like there have too many deliberate twists and turns to result in surprise victory. Also the format of the show is starting to get stale and I think there needs to be a significant break between seasons 10 and 11.

VULTURE.COM's article on ALL STARS 3 is dead on. Love it. Especially regarding Trixie:

"Let’s start with Trixie’s win. I’ll begin by saying this: Trixie is a nice girl. She’s sharp and funny, and eats sandwiches. She’s doing great in the real world with her own Viceland TV show alongside former All Star Katya. But this competition isn’t about how well you’re doing IRL. During All Stars 3, Trixie Mattel fumbled constantly, whiffing a Snatch Game impression of RuPaul, and turning in generally mediocre performances. She didn’t get a single outright win (I’m including the lip sync for your legacy here), and overall, she’s been better as a talking head commentator out of drag than a competitor in it. With BenDeLaCreme recusing herself from the competition (which, at this point: whatever), Shangela was clearly the one to beat. Sure, she has a tendency toward broad comedy, but she studied hard and came correct almost every challenge, including the final “live” performance."

Honestly all the younger ones just kind of blend together.

Please stop wailing about AS3. It’s over, let’s all move on with our lives.

Trixie?

Damn, Kameron looks even better with a beard. He should never shave, not even when in drag.

I'm officially rooting for him and Blair to win this whole thing.

Because that's who should win - the one who is 'hottest out of drag'.

My second sentence is not connected to the point in the first one; hence the new paragraph.

Thanks for the link r395. I suspect Kameron might just surprise everybody. He seems pretty talented.

Way to root for the goddamn bare minimum in the looks department. Kameron's botox and lip injections can't mask that he's a fucking dweeb.

[quote]My second sentence is not connected to the point in the first one; hence the new paragraph.

Sure Jan. You rooting for Kameron is completely unconnected to wanting to sleep with him.

Watching season 2 again. Forgot what a stone cold cunt Raven was/is

Raven is really unlovable. I don't understand her fandom, but she seems like the proof that sociopaths flourish.

Like her or hate her, Raven is one of the most influential queens to ever appear on RuPaul's Drag Race. Her make-up tactics changed the drag game, so many queens borrowed from it after her TV run.

Beginning of ep 3.

r402 what makes you say Raven is a sociopath?

I forgot how much I love Jujubee re-watching Season 2, she's a good egg you can tell. Tatianna comes off well but Morgan McMichaels and Sonique DO NOT. I love when Tatianna says in one of her confessionals "Sonique always has that stank face" and appreciated when Tati took up for Mystique when Sonique was trashing her and Morgan said he pitied her - Tati wasn't having it.

Tyra winning in retrospect is very interesting because she really wasn't talented in being funny, or singing and dancing, or being clever, or, hell, even being pleasant and likable - but she did have that 'it' factor, the Rupaul charisma requirement, the "shine" as Faye Dunaway has called it. But Tyra is so different from Needles, Monsoon, and Del Rio who have come to exemplify a RPDR 'winner'

Poor Pandora, what happened? Such promise.

Always hated Morgan. Such a talentless bitch.

[quote]Tyra winning in retrospect is very interesting because she really wasn't talented in being funny, or singing and dancing, or being clever, or, hell, even being pleasant and likable - but she did have that 'it' factor, the Rupaul charisma requirement, the "shine" as Faye Dunaway has called it.

Jujubee begs to diffa. LOL

Tyra had one hell of a runway walk, though. She also had a "my son" narrative that helped.

It's common knowledge that RuPaul was literally looking for his successor for the first three seasons of RPDR. Tall, dark, leggy, a bit subversive and runway ready. The success of the show and Sharon Needles changed everything in season 4. Manila should have won season 3 and Ru's long friendship with Raja was exposed, but Raja was the runway chick that Ru always wanted to be. A MAN. Still I can understand why Bebe, Tyra and Raja won their seasons. The show was a lot more honest back then. It started as a satire of America's Next Top Model and Project Runway and devolved in integrity and fairness like both of those shows. Doesn't mean the art wasn't present or the contestants weren't talented. Just that it's rigged. Tyra Banks really is the other Tyra because every critique and facial expression - all the elevated but contained emotion, mock caring and endless narcissism Ru displayed in drag, was a slam/tribute to Tyra Banks. Tim Gunn was Ru's workroom model and he pretty much copied him verbatim, just taller. I get that most people know this but they forget it still. The RuPaul of the 90s was nothing like the Rupaul of Drag Race. Ru was a nasty piece on the club circuit and his talk show was some kind of witless worshipful fuckery. If you follow him, you realize he really does love Jody Watley, Tammy Faye, Olivia Newton John and Dolly. But Diana Ross will always be his #1 queen. He only mentions drag race queens to self promote...

Raven was just too nasty to win, really an ugly human. Don't say that the producers don't inform Ru of what goes on behind the scenes. Same thing happened with Ginger losing. I think Violet is one of Ru's most inspired winners though. After Sharon he was no longer looking for replicas of himself but a collectable set of diverse Drag Queens.

People often make the mistake of evaluating the early seasons (Season 2 in particular) with the same criteria of a recent season - 7, 8, 9, whatever - when they argue over who should have or deserved to win. It was a different show back then, and it was certainly not influenced by tweens & teens who post on social media all day and attend DragCon.

Sasha Belle from S7 has done got on the thirst trap bandwagon .

r412 this poor thing is the epitome of local. seems like a perfectly friendly guy. so anyways.

Shangie is in Belfast, looking cuter than ever. Boy is 35 and hasn't injected nothing. You won't find DJ in a crop top.....Shangela maybe.

All I can see when I look at Kameron is that god awful common trash NECK tattoo. Ugh. So tacky and unnecessary.

All I see is GAYFACE FOR DAYS in Kameron. He does have a good body and would be fuckable with a bag over his head.

Raven observed people's weak spot and then went after it. The only other people I've known like that have been sociopaths. She also broadcasted bitterness.

MARY.

Raven was a bitchy drag queen on TV. She is a textbook sociopath! Probably a secret serial killer!

Shanj/DJ is tiny—like, 5'2" or 5'3".

I’ve met Shangela, about 5’4” and when a boy relaxing at the beach, he allows his mid-rift belly to relax along with him. And he’s very nice.

"Mid-rift"????!!

Kameron has a hideous face. He's essentially Sepulveda x Detox, neither being a good look.

Shanjello - I loathe the phony coverups here. The fangurls and haters have tried to make this creature seem like something positive for drag. Ugh.

He's 4'10". His acne is fulminating. The hair is a wig because he's mostly balled, with tufts of thin hair straggling along the rim. His nose is crooked, with one nostril hugely large and the other tiny. He has a remnant limb he tucks into his costumes, a tiny clubfoot connected to the remnants of a she-tail. He doesn't have to tuck because he's deformed, although a nasty hernia sometimes suggests a "bump."

He couldn't complete third grade because of his malevolent violence, and had escaped the "group home" (meaning asylum) shortly before turning up in Season 2 of Drag Race. He blackmailed his way onto the show with photos. I won't say who or how except that at his height and weight at the time he looked very, very young and the sex shown was hideous. Any time he's wanted to get on the show again the photos resurface. He was supposed to win AS3 but the other queens voting fucked up the plan, since no one in the drag world can stand him. So just wait for him to turn up again in AS4 as the BeBe of the season. He will not be denied. Winning is all he can think of.

He's since gotten fat but purges disgustingly and corsets maniacally to try to hide it. He also has run a hooker ring since Season 2. Blackmailing other drag queens and forcing them to "perform." Just ask them when they're drunk about what happens in Dubai and the UAE. Shangela lives under constant security because of the hate and anguish he's caused.

So glad to set the record straight.

And one of these days I'll tell the real story behind how the winners of the other seasons have been chosen. Let's just say the real contest takes place in a room with a lot of plastic on the walls, floor and ceiling.

You are certainly . . . invested, r423, in this tee-vee show.

R423

R423:

Katya's back and she's telling her truth.

I shit my pants when Ru said "i didn't catch her name" and Michelle get going "vangie...vangie.." that being said the rumor is they are going to bring her back ala Naysha Lopez.

They've taped the season months in advance, how would they have predicted that this girl would have become such a social media darling after her elimination and thus it became practically necessary for her to return?

Naysha was gone one episode before returning.

I don't remember "Sasha Belle" at all, but she's a pretty cute boy. Not my type, but cute.

Why did it take a week for the Vangie mania to start? Did the audience need to see RuPaul laugh at Vangie’s exit the week after it originally aired in order to find it funny?

Expect to see a lot more of RuPaul laughing at his girls since it clearly riles up the fanbase.

[quote]Did the audience need to see RuPaul laugh at Vangie’s exit the week after it originally aired in order to find it funny?

Well yes, him and Michelle's little laugh session is what turned it into a meme.

It was already a meme before Episode 2—Ru's laughing just added fuel to an already-burning fire.

[quote]Ru's laughing just added fuel to an already-burning fire.

That is a massive understatement. The Miss Vanjie antics exploded after episode 2, there were not many Miss Vanjie memes after episode 1.

[quote]there were not many Miss Vanjie memes after episode 1

Yes, there were—they were all over Twitter.

Has the preview of the next episode been posted yet? When do they usually drop? I can't possibly wait any longer!

TIA!

Post R404.

[quote]I don't remember "Sasha Belle" at all

She was the filler queen/early boot from Season 7 who thought she had "cracked the code" for winning Drag Race.

Sasha Belle was a thirst queen in Season 7 .................. at least with the other contestants. I remember an interview clip with all the queens where many of them said Sasha was the one they'd fuck. And during episode one, a couple of them commented on his cuteness and great ass.

Filler queen/cute boy

I'm far less interested in the cute men than I was several years ago. Now I like watching the rough bootstrappers more.

Just watched the preview. Yuhua is the worst team member ever. Doesn't stop talking, isn't funny at all, and criticizes people's suggestions during a [italic]brainstorming session.[/italic] That's literally Brainstorming 101. And to think she was my favourite. Or perhaps she's just getting a brutal edit for some reason.

I could see Blair's theatre side clearly during that mini challenge. She's going to be great in sketches and maybe even Snatch Game. Can't wait!

Hopefully, Eureka picks it up - I like her.

The mini challenge was good. A dumb premise but with lots of inventive and funny queens. And some pretty bitches too. Asia, Aquaria and Mayhem were beautiful in even 20 minute drag. Dusty Faye Bottoms looks like Thorgy's less deformed brother. I don't think he's long for this show. Not a very compelling performer. Mayhem will survive a few lip sync battles. Blair was inventive and wacky, can't wait to see more of her. I'm on the fence about Eureka. He's obnoxious and really BIG, but I think his drag persona is talented.

R442, r443:

Yuhua and Aquaria are the two queens this time who think they are more fabulous/talented than they are.

But then again- Roxxxxy was like that too and went farther than she should have

Ugh

I'm liking Katya's new podcast. She should have called it Season of the SLuttish.

link to the preview please

Christ, for the second time it was posted at post r404.

r404 is a sociopath.

The creepy disembodied voice and the wood paneling for the auditions....

I DIE

I don't want to be a sociopath, but it feels so low class to go backward in a thread more than 10 posts. None of them are worth anything anyway, since people are such shitheads, mostly. Maybe not here on this thread. Maybe you're all brilliant. But, you know. Odds.

So, "choices."

Therefore, would someone please post the preview for the next episode before it starts? In, say, about five minutes so I don't have go backwards too far. I think I have a little tinkle break coming. Thanks in advance.

Got it? Preview. Five minutes. Thank you.

Now you say, "No problem," like the good clerks and cashiers you are.

Awww Dusty Ray 😔❤️

Kameron's runway look is perfection.

Dusty’s story is an important reminder that even in a post-Will and Grace world, many if not most gay kids still endure hellish abuse from loved ones and live in unsafe environments. The fight continues.

I’ve been lip syncing to Celebrity Skin since 1998. I’m an old fat guy in a stained sweatshirt but I would have blasted those bitches off the stage with my Courtney Realness.

Where do I know the cute dark-haired pit crew guy from?

R455, he has a delicious bulge.

Yuhua announces she’s trans in 3.... 2.....

Dusty Ray looks like Nolan Gould's older, hotter brother.

[quote]Where do I know the cute dark-haired pit crew guy from?

Yes! Who was this new pit crew guy? He was fucking adorable. Keep him around WoW people who are lurking on this thread.

What was wrong with Ru’s voice all throughout tonight. It sounded dubbed.

It seemed like she and Courtney had the same snuffy voice and low energy. Wonder what they were sniffing together?

At first I assumed something was off with the mic and they had to dub Ru, but since it was like that all episode I assume Ru was just sick and powering through.

[quote]Kameron's runway look is perfection.

It was. This was a strong runway, funny how this runway was better than the "best drag" runway from last week.

Three episodes in and this is shaping up to be one of stronger seasons. With the bad vibes from AS3, it is good they are having a strong rebound.

The new pitcrew guy was on Worst Cooks of America and So You Think You Can Dance. Has made the rounds of reality TV.

Asaf Goren.

He was soooooo annoying on "Worst Cooks." He was also on an MTV dating show called "Are You the One?" They could have done so much better than this douche.

Miss Cracker is certainly winning in whatever showdown she's supposed to be having with Aquaria. And damn, but Vixen is fucking tiresome. Just STFU. Yes, you are tough - blah blah blah. Work on that janky hairline on your wigs, bitch.

Aquaria suffers from the same bratty hubris that Violet displayed on her season, but at least she has the goods to back it up (as did Violet). The Vixen is just unpleasant and her drag is boring and forgettable.

Aquaria is literally every single annoying child growing up who always got in trouble in class for getting into it with another kid and was never smart enough to talk his way out of getting written up.

That was one of the least funny sketch challenges I've ever seen on this show. Even the supposedly funny queens like Cracker wrote mediocre dialogue for themselves. And the lipsync was cringe from beginning to end. Tortorella has nice fingers but that's about the only thing that doesn't repulse me about him, and Courtney is on another planet so I won't even go there.

Vixen and Mayhem are self-important and entirely humourless (they remind me of Bonina Brown), with Mayhem being a depressing drag on top of that, and Vixen a poisonous loudmouthed bully. Just awful.

Stopped being a Kameron fan tonight. What the hell was he thinking with that sketch that didn't have a single zinger in it? Some people clocked him for not having a personality in the very first episode and I agree now that he's too bland for this line of work. Hey, I am as well so I'm not judging. I also just cannot with the religious bullshit so I stopped being a Blair fan as well. Sue me. I'm non-aligned as of tonight.

Next week is the ball? We have never done a ball with this many queens before, that will be a lot of looks to go through.

And so the new pit crew guy is straight? Bored now. I had always appreciated that the Pit Crew was actually made up of gay men, a nice little touch, with him and Bryce we can't have straight guys taking over the pitcrew.

[quote]That was one of the least funny sketch challenges I've ever seen on this show.

I agree with you the sketches themselves weren't that funny, but I was still thoroughly entertained watching this episode.

[quote]And the lipsync was cringe from beginning to end.

Just caught this? Why? I thought Mayhem did a damn good job on the lip synch.

Hoping that a hole in the runway swallows Aquaria and Vixen so that we don’t have to see or hear from either ever again.

What's with Mayhem being SO CONCERNED about "the bitches behind me need to KNOW I'm fierce" or whatever. You don't need to impress them, dear.

The third episode wasn't very good - the challenges were boring, the commercials for the fake apps weren't funny, and I didn't really get why the judges were gagging over the winner's acting turn with her monobrow. Yeah, it was funny for five seconds, but she didn't really do anything other than that one face. It seemed like they were struggling to find positive things.

I did like the Tweety bird costume at the end.

Blair seems like she's being set up to be the star of the season, but she's not quite there yet.

Kameron is boring, I can see him going home in episode five or six.

Miz Cracker is cute out of drag.

RuPaul sounded as if she were dying at the end - "If you don't love yourself..." *croak*

Somebody needs to slip Carson a few mint juleps to get the Courtney Love behind the scenes stories.

It's a little concerning to see Eureka and then Mayhem having to LSFYL so early on. Didn't expect that.

R470, Bryce is straight (allegedly, his voice is more fey than Jason's) so this new guy being straight isn't exactly a "first".

R473 speaks the truth. I was hoping for a double elimination scenario but I wouldn't even want to sit through that.

It's not a first, but from seasons 3-6 the pit crew was all gay. Then Bryce was the one token straight guy from seasons 7-9.

If you have Bryce, the new guy, and Jason, now the Pit Crew becomes mainly straight guys. We go back to the cliche of gay guys fawning over straight guys, instead of putting a spotlight on openly gay hotties.

[quote]It's a little concerning to see Eureka and then Mayhem having to LSFYL so early on. Didn't expect that.

Raven lipsynched a couple times early in Season 2, and ended up being runner-up to the crown (and some people like to argue should've won)

[quote]We go back to the cliche of gay guys fawning over straight guys, instead of putting a spotlight on openly gay hotties.

You're absolutely correct. Hell, Miz Cracker even said this in that article referenced in R36 in this thread.

You're also correct about Raven, so we'll see. The second time Raven was in the bottom two, she pretty much was just a warm body to finally put Mystique out of her misery.

I thought Mayhem did a great lip sync. Courtney was soooo subdued. It reminded me of One Flew Over the Cucko's Nest.

R460 Either laryngitis or a throat infection.

Blair's mom made his look.

I enjoyed Yuhua’s explanation of her look. “In Chinese culture, ravens represent death, so, you know, I combined that with some other stuff.” Wow, girl. Profound.

Kinda falling in love with Monet, stupid glasses frames included.....

Yuhua’s lip sync was over after her first strum of the air guitar.

Amateur!

Yeah, Yuhua never handled criticism well. The one good comment Nico Tortorella gave was when he called our her answer did not address what Michelle said.

Someone on reddit is tracking this (of course), and Monet has had the most confessionals of any contestant. She is the narrator of the season.

Asaf is bisexual. His fuckbuddy was his family visit on Worst Cooks.

They just didn’t get it!

Monet - Bob's less talented twin.

He really WANTS to be Bob, doesn't he? But he's just not as good.

The Pit Crew is mostly Str8? Riiiiiiiiiight.

I thought it was odd that the dating app one kept using Bryce as the hot guy instead of switching it up.

I freaking love Monique. She is effortlessly hilarious. I'm rooting for her and Miz Cracker.

SO who won and who lost?

R493? This week - Asa won YooHoo lost and packed it up.

Yeah I like Monet, but this episode proved she is not as talented as Bob. Bob would have won this challenge, not fade into the background.

Lord, I wish I had even half the confidence of someone who writes a long criminally unfunny reply and then clicks Post, like r450.

I just assumed they died shortly after posting that, r496

Many of them have good runway. Blair's gown was heinous with scattered shitty feathers glued on.

I thought Blair's gown was terrible the first episode as well. She shouldn't have been at the top. But for whatever reason, the judges are smitten with her.

r498 agreed. That gown was what you'd find in any prom dress store in the hood. And her gamine figure is not able to sell it.

I think the judges are trying to be indulgent of mid-American drag.

It do take nerve r496

I think Courtney was subdued because she's afraid her new face will slide off or crack.

Ah, the strange mini challenge was based off these pervy Calvin Klein ads....Things you learn at the AV Club! Drag Race remains pretty fucking inventive to riff on this arcane psycho shit.

She had pretty good work, I must say.

Courtney seems lobotomized after 25 years of seeing her manic self. She only dropped one name.

Oh yeah and she looked more like Madonna then Madonna does now.

Here is the current Courtney bashing thread where you can accuse her of being and doing whatever your heart desires

"Bring back my ... Afrin."

Was that Courtney's 12 new face?

Who keeps saying Shangela was robbed? She kept Trixie and only one person on the jury voted for her. Buh-bye girl!

[quote]Who keeps saying Shangela was robbed?

Literally everyone, including Trixie. Most of the jury have admitted they were wrong not to vote for her.

Whatever! No one liked Shangela on the show!

We’ve all moved on from All Stars. The fights are over, the tears have dried. We’ve all moved on to Season 10.

For the last fucking time, this is not RuPaul's Best Friend Race!

I really like Dusty, but she needs to step it up or she's going to be out soon, I fear.

Monet is the poor man's Bob. Monique is the poor man's Monet. And Aquaria is DEFINITLEY the poor man's Miss Cracker.

Mayhem slayed that lip sync. She's a little pouty but I like her.

This was the first week I liked Asia. The Tweety dress was fabulously over the top and witty.

[quote]Monique is the poor man's Monet.

Absolutely not. Monique is unique. She is the most like Alyssa if she's like anyone—as both are effortlessly and (often unintentionally) hilarious.

Dusty is the most fuckable.

Yeah, Dusty looks like a dude in a dress.

Asia is gorgeous. Skin the color of cinnamon. pretty eyes, good body. gorgeous curvy lips and smile. Big man, beautiful drag queen. Funny but nice, great runways I have no doubt that either he or Miz Cracker will win the season. Mayhem is a legendary bar queen and that was a hell of a lip sync. But she will be in the bottom a few more times before that lip sync fails her. She just doesn't have any personality which is why it took her so many years to make the cut. Dusty is the least polished, his runway looks are terrible. He looks like Rumer Willis. But mini muscle guy is the least talented in my opinion and next to go.

I hope Monique makes top three but I think it will be Eureka with Mz. Cracker and Asia at the end.

My big problem with Kameron is his arms. They are way too muscley and it complete ruins the illusion/look.

Doesn't Kameron have short legs, as well?

I don’t like a man with too many muscles

If Kameron comes with fat size meat, he's sexy in a methy way.

You can find plenty of thirst trap bulge pictures on Kameron's instagram.

hmmmmmm

Why does he wear his meat straight down over the balls rather than up the side of the bikini?

Kameron’s face and voice remind me of Chad Michaels

Miz Cracker is Alaska 2.0 - she seems to really be a student of all things drag race. Her referencing Alyssa's DOOAHH DOOAHH killed me and saying "drag is a contact sport" when Eurka hit her...I think she is the one to watch.

Cracker is much less mannered thank Alaska, thankfully. She has great poise and her delivery to camera underlined just how poor Kameron and some of the others were with delivering lines.

Was Yuhua really not a drag queen before the show? I guess Miss Fame, rather than Bianca, is her template, though I doubt seamstress tutorials will really take off. Can she teach air guitar on YouTube?

r527 What do you mean?

[quote]Her referencing Alyssa's DOOAHH DOOAHH killed me

That was Aquaria.

[quote]Was Yuhua really not a drag queen before the show?

What makes you say that? She has been doing drag in NY for years.

[quote]That was Aquaria.

Yeah I clocked that. r529 is continuing the Aquaria and Cracker are twins plotline!

[quote]Blair's gown was heinous with scattered shitty feathers glued on.

Michelle was completely correct when she said it read arts and crafty. Dusty had the worse runway this week though, that thing was embarrassing. Shame since his look last week was damn good.

I would like to add my two cents and say I thought Courtney looked pretty, and while she's been more lively in the past, "subdued" isn't the worst thing in the world.

Are you sure it was Aquaria? I swear it was Cracker during the filming of their scene.

Aquaria's real name is Giovanni Palandrani. Explains a lot. I'm glad The Vixen called out what's seldom mentioned by name: the manipulation of racial biases by some Drag Race contestants for sympathy or popularity.

Derrick Berry got shitfaced before her set at the Hater's Roast last night. Eureka being the good shit-stirrer she is instagram lived the whole thing. Worth watching it its entirety, it becomes more of an unintelligible trainwreck til they realize they need to force her off the stage.

The fifth part of this instagram post has when Trinity and one of Derrick's boyfriends (Nebraska) is having to force her to leave.

These queens cannot afford to be unprofessional. Their earning window is closing and there’s always another queen ready to take her place. And she’s probably younger, prettier, and has more Insta fame.

As long as it stays a one-off it is just a fun story, hopefully she knows better not to let it happen again.

Eureka looked fabulous this week.

Actually everybody looked fantastic, better than last week for sure.

My god, that Vixen is a fucking bitch. Hate her.

I confuse Ms. Cracker and Aquaria. They're completely interchangeable.

Is Kameron the dude with the tats? Who sometimes doesn't have boobies? He does look like a man in drag. When they showed him going through the door from the back, the guy was fucking huge.

It's truly sad and emotional when they show the kicked-off queens packing their stuff and trying to roll it away and leaving in that minivan.

Yuhua managed to be both heartbreaking and hilarious with her exit on Untucked.

The Vixen is just pulling the shit talking to the front. Aquaria called out Cracker for copying her, then when they were together she changed her tune. Vixen just said "that is not what you said when she wasn't here"

Yuhua was a girl, I am sure. Look, Bianca shows us what we already know. Now everyone pays for designer dresses and outrageous costumes (muscle boy's feather number was as good as anything Cher would wear) but Bianca just made the same dress over and over. And won. Because she is the real C.U.N.T. That millionaire bitch was not my favorite winner. Neither is Alaska or Sharon. Hell Naw to Raja. Guess I don't know what sells. Bianca was the clear winner though. I thought some of the gowns were over the top this week, I think this is her way of saying the same?

Bianca's drag was perfect through. She never stepped out on the runway without looking 100% polished.

Yes, she didn't serve a lot of variety in silhouette, but she was no Jinkx or Bob. Her actual drag was always on point.

I completely agree R547.

I speculated earlier in this thread but now after 3 eps I'm pretty much cemented in saying Asia is definitely winning. Totally okay with it, too.

Bianca's looks were dull though. High technical skill but not much creativity.

One of the top comments in that Eureka thread is this, which makes me want to kill whoever typed it in:

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Jesus fucking Christ, R548...

R536, that's Courtney's calm before next year's Tragic Queen Tour for the 25th anniversary of Kurt's death.

R551: That's just an emoji copypasta. They're fairly common in certain areas of the internet. I think that in the RPDR subreddit the first ever emoji copypasta was for LaGanja's iconic standup.

Is it stupid? Yes. Is it silly? Yes.

But that's the internet. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

My "Jesus Fucking Christ" was directed at R551. Excuse me, R548.

Even though I like to lurk that subreddit for news, there is a reason I run back to the safety of the DL. The children there can be very annoying.

[quote]LaGanja's iconic standup.

ICONIC? Really?

For all the wrong reasons.

Yes, LaGanja's standup was so cringe-worthy that—with time—it has become iconic.

"Hey hey hey, put your lighter's up y'all, Ganja's in the house, yeaowww!"

I don't think Aquaria and Miz Cracker are interchangeable at all. They have the same body-type and have at points done similar makeup, sometimes intentionally, but when I see each one in or out of drag, there is no confusion. They have different perspectives and I think that is very evident in their drag choices.

I do think that Miz Cracker will be in the top three. I was surprised at her lackluster "RuPaul's Chocolate" ad, because she is usually so quick.

Last week, under Alyssa's tutelage, Yuhua and Kameron did an unexpectedly great job in their respective group numbers. I was sorry to see Yuhua leave this week. Out of character, she was not outstanding, but I enjoyed her drag.

In Untucked a couple of weeks ago, Asia joked to sponge-dressed Monet "...everything you have done has been about cleaning. You came in sweepin' the floor, now you're out here in a sponge dress. Gurl, we don't do that no more, ain't you seen The Help? No, we movin' forward!"

It reminded me of the Jefferson's episode where Florence, as the prospective maid, looks at Louise and Helen, both black inhabitants of "de-lux" apartments and asks, "How come we overcame and nobody told me?"

[quote]YouTube timestamps don't seem to work, here.

They work fine if you disable link previews. The DL link preview function messes up so much stuff, it is why people thought dailymail was blocked here, just because of link previews.

Speaking of, has anyone looked at RuPaul's website? It's the worst of all web sins - that giant top image is over 2mb, and it loads like molasses. It even loads that huge image on mobile devices. It reminds me of the time I hired a landscaper just because he was gay, he turned out godawful. I'm assuming some knownothing of RuPaul's built it for shmer, hired because they were gay and in the circle. Just like my shitty unreliable landscaper.

[QUOTE]has anyone looked at RuPaul's website?

No.

Asia is not winning. Watch for Mayhem, Blair and Miz Cracker to make top three - possible Eureka.

Not a spoiler:

No, neither Blair nor Asia will get close to the finals.

I’m betting on Miz C, Mayhem, and Eureka.

I'm suprised there is so much Mayhem love here. Sure he did a good job with the make a outfit challenge, but outside of that he completely faded into the background. I don't see a contender for the crown at all.

I want Miz Cracker and Monique in the Top 3.

Why are so many people banking on Eureka? I like her okay, but she's been lackluster thus far. Is it because a plus-size winner is overdue?

Like R565, I'm not sold on Mayhem. Great drag, but not much of a personality as far as we've seen. Seems like a lovely person, though.

Miss Vanjie attended Marc Jacobs birthday party with the likes of Bette Midler, Naomi Campbell, Debbie Harry and MILK? What a strange time we live in.

Miss Vanjie is the breakout star of the season, and it's really remarkable. She's not going to be a flash in the pan. Her exit interview with Michelle Visage had charisma and humor for days. She's the real deal.

Um, Ms Vangie is gone. Unless spoilers indicate she's coming back,

She's one and done. Why y'all keep talking about her??

She obviously wasn't good enough to last on the show.

Ru seems to lover her some Miss C. Cracker is going to have to fuck up but good not to make the final. The judges seem to be pretty smitten with Blair, so I expect her to go far. Wouldn't bet on Eureka. She had one good week. Let's see if she can hold it together. According to friends in Dallas, Asia is one fierce queen. I wouldn't count her out. Mayhem just seems kind of meh.

Because social media is all about her, R569. She broke out even beyond the fans of the show—to the point that there were memes about the memes, with straight people asking "Who the fuck is Miss Vanjie?"

Ru went absolutely manic for her on Twitter, at one point posting about her nearly 20 times in a row. She has never done that before, and this was days after the episode aired.

[quote]She obviously wasn't good enough to last on the show.

A stumble out of the gate doesn't mean she wasn't good enough. In one episode, she made a larger impact than most contestants ever do. She'll be back in a later season.

Haha, it's true!

"RaPal Dark Res" is an Adult Swim–style cartoon parody by a Dutch drag queen. The names are brilliant.

Calling a person a cumrag? That qualifies as brilliant?

I've Written a Letter to Vanjie

R572 - that's so funny because on last week's runway I thought Monet was giving me Leslie Jones realness. She shouldn't go bare shouldered and bare armed, it completely gives away the man. At least we found one difference between her and Bob.

R576, I thought that was Asia too. And of course someone was triggered by that post because someone named “Cracker” compared Monet (a black drag queen) to Leslie (a black woman) and that’s another way the white men keeps black women down...

Tatianna has done perpetrated a virtual wig snatch on Tyra Sanchez.

Virtual WIG SNATCH!

There should be an emoticon for that

Who cares about pears

I mean Tyra Sanchez does fail as a human being, and that is why her career went absolutely nowhere after Drag Race.

Many successful queens from her season, but the "winner" barely gets booked.

Anyway, I've loved Tatianna since Season 2. Glad AS2 brought her to the fame level she deserves to be at.

It's because Tyra has the personality of a ham sandwich.

Episode 4 Preview

Or given what happened last week maybe I should say

[bold]EPISODE FOUR PREVIEW

Could someone post the next episode preview? TIA.

Tyra is now BANNED from DragCon LA.

Yes, that is what inspired Tatianna's rant about Tyra r584. Saying how she deserves to be banned.

(To Monét:) "Model? You mean waddle?" Thank you Monique!!

Pit Crew Shawn is back, that must make a few of you happy. He has his clothes on though.

Tati still going in while Phi Phi stirs the turd

PhiPhi is such a SHIT-STIRRER!! She loves the drama, mama.

Tyra is completely losing her shit. Some fans are calling for Ru to retroactively dethrone her.

Tyra obviously has mental issues. Of course Jaremi knows that and delights in kicking her when she’s down. Don’t be surprised when Tyra gets violent.

[quote]Of course Jaremi knows that and delights in kicking her when she’s down.

This is why Phi Phi bugs me. Tatianna doesn't not come across as enjoying attacking Tyra—rather that she's been given no choice so is, sadly, letting it all spill. But with Phi Phi, at least for me, I get the sense that there's a genuine glee in all of the drama—which, at the end of the day, is really sad "drama." It's someone's life, not matter how terrible that someone might or might not be.

NEW Thread

Time to close out this thread?

Anyone going to DragCon?

Interesting that RuPaul’s Star On Hollywood Blvd has the TV icon only and not the music icon.

He’s described himself as first and foremost a musician.

I wonder who or what was behind that decision.

VANGIE

Vangie

vangie

LINK to thread 2

V. A. N. G. I. E.

She hasn't even returned yet and I'm already getting kind of tired of hearing about Miss Vanjie.