Doorman vs no doorman building

My Brooklyn building has a live-in super on the first floor (with family) but no doorman. I like it better.

Doorman are really just there to give people a sense of "security". It isn't the 80s, Manhattan isn't gritty and dangerous anymore.

The 11-7 doorman where I lived in 1975-76 liked to grade my tricks.

How often does one tip them?

Oh - and sorry for the typos 😥

eurotrash, hookers, and drug dealers certainly prefer, "no doorman", as do the delivery men who can dump all of their menus in one place

Doormen are generally tipped once a year at year end, plus as the situation calls for if they do something "above and beyond" their normal duties toward all residents.

This is what keeps me up at night

We'll save on pots of jam, OP.

[quote]eurotrash, hookers, and drug dealers certainly prefer, "no doorman"

How'd you know about my Hungarian rentboy/weed dealer?

it was the doorman in my aunt's bldg. that noticed he hadn't seen her in a few days. They went into her apt. and she had passed away.

Most of the doormen at our building in Chelsea are of Albanian descent, lots of consonants and few vowels in their names, some more recently off the boat than others, but a few of them are shockingly hot. I fantasize about them all the time.

A doorman will gossip about all your craigslist visitors.

You tip for the year at x-mas.... in general. Some buildings have a policy where you only can tip to the overall pool.

Doormen are a good thing as long as the doormen are not nuts. We always had good ones, and then suddenly they hired a new one who was an ass hole. For years, I would pull up in the driveway for a few min to load things in the lobby without a "pass"... but with this guy? Nooo... psycho started yelling at me that I needed a "temporary pass". Huh?

Carts in the closet? Suddenly, you got yelled at for going in "their personal closet" to get the freaking cart. Then, the carts were locked altogether. The same thing happened to the keys to the storage rooms. The other doormen had been there 20+ years and suddenly this guy was running the show in a 500+ person building. I could easily have done without HIM, but the others were always helpful.

Even scheduling the elevator for a delivery required listening him complain about how busy the elevators are for 5 minutes before you could say your date.

These days, setting up cameras everywhere is not as expensive as it once was, and that's possibly a better alternative.

I lived in a condo with a "concierge" and their service was included in our HOA. They were worthless and let people into the elevator lobby because the YouTube video they were watching was more important. And they will talk about your neighbors too.

Most apartment buildings I've lived in outside of NYC do not have doormen.

A doorman is better if the price is not a problem. Especially doormen who must announce all visitors and where there is a nice lobby lounge for the visitor to wait and where the resident can come down and perhaps avoid entirely a visit to his apartment if its better not to.

[quote]"Doormen know everything," said Stephen C. Brandman, 42, the chief operating officer of Thompson Hotels, a luxury boutique hotel chain. Until recently, he lived in a doorman building on Park Avenue, and he lived full- and part-time in his hotels that had doormen before and after his marriage. "The challenge becomes when you have overnight guests; sometimes the doormen share their thoughts about that," said Mr. Brandman, referring to unsolicited remarks garnered during his bachelor life. "Sometimes they wanted to know why ex-girlfriends had come back into the picture, so there would be running commentary." Even while married and living on Park Avenue, he chafed at the extra sets of eyeballs. Returning from the gym, "I would be drenched and I didn't want to see a soul," he recalled. "I didn't want to face the doorman and elevator operator. When you're not at your best, that's the time you wish you could just sneak in and disappear."

I think my doorman thought I was dating this guy - and the guy would always talk to him. He had to be buddy-buddy with everyone. Anyway, that guy was not my BF... he was a friend w/ benefits. He didn't want to date.

Anyway, I had some other guy over and I distinctly felt my doorman was mad at me for "cheating on my bf"... and I've known him for over 5 years, so I don't think it was just in my head.

Then the friend w/ benefits came back later a week later and was chatting w/ the same doorman again. It may have been awkward, but this shit must happen all the time.

Doormen are still a good deterrent to crime. I feel safer with them there.

This is not really a question. OP just wants to let everyone know that he comes from money and could always afford to live in a doorman building.

We are supposed to be impressed.

We don't have a doorman but we have 24 hour desk personnel. They handle letting people in, getting your spare key when you get locked out, any energencies, etc. We used to also have 24 hour piretr service but we cut back about 5 hours during the night to save money - so if your toilet's clogged there's no one to help until 6am.

one of the best fuks i ever had was from a doorman at a tony madison ave apt bldg....

big huge hot man who fuked the shit outta me

str8, but like nelly twinks with hot asses and purdy faces...

was visiting someone in the bldg and at 2 am every nite he came over and pounded his cum into me.

[quote] was visiting someone in the bldg and at 2 am every nite he came over and pounded his cum into me.

You were visiting this Madison Avenue friend for an extended stay? And he would come up after his shift? Your host didn't mind?

This is unclear....

Now he has to bother to make up DETAILS, to go with the sloppy fragments, r24. How dare you.

hell no he dint care.

he was my uncle...

many in nyc are also domincan and can be incredibly hot, though may be mistreated by shitty residents, as this cautionary tale illustrates

you treat them decently and tip generously and they don't gossip about the coming and going of your tricks. they don't generally care who's fucking whom, it's nyc. only gets awkward when married guys bring hookups in when the spouse is away.

If you don't have a doorman, do you get your own cab?

yes formerly, now uber, lyft, curb, etc

I always liked Ralph the doorman from the Jeffersons but not Carlton from Rhoda.

What r30 said. "Hailing a cab" is pressing a button on your phone now.

The doormen used to turn on a cab light... so strange how that's become an antique overnight.

No way! Doormen is like having a nosy neighbor all in your business. Someone who has nothing to do but watch you come and go and track your movements. And you have to be civil too - and tip! I can barely make small talk with the Starbucks I go to every morning- I hate it.

I live downtown NYC - very few people choose a doorman. To me it’s a very old people on UES thing. I have had one - hated it. Never again.

I guarantee you that all those who voted "yes" in OP's poll for wanting a doorman -- are female.

some people in nyc still prefer cabs and some buildings still have cab lights.

cabbies are union,and a lot of new yorkers are union supporters private services are contract,

ofter but not always cabbies know directions and address better and are more flexible if plans change suddenly (grndr hit?) private drivers are programmed to your address on gps (which is sometimes wrongly coded) and may refuse to take you where you really want to go.

at rush hour, shift changes and inclement weather, taxis may be hard or impossible to get. private drivers may be more available but with likely "premium" or "surge" pricing.

curb somewhat levels the playing field, allowing one to summon a yellow taxi using an uber like app.

I'm sad my doorman has been outsourced to a team in the Philippians. They all sound like trannies. They won't unlock the elevator unless you say hi back CHEERFULLY. Then they keep talking and talking until the elevator gets there. They also broadcast their faces on GIGANTIC LED screens.

This is some sick dystopian black mirror bullshit.

i guarantee you that most of those voting no are males cheating on their spouses, have an endless parade of hustlers, use very unsavory dealers for their drug habits, or are "one the spectrum" or have no social skills.

Do you really think the doorman cares about your business?

We have a doorman at one of our places, but it's in London and we're not there very often. There are six units and two of them are owned by Germans who are never there, so when we are there it's quiet. Both the day man and the night man are professional and discreet. We all call them by their last names - so traditional. It's an extra expense, of course, but worth it for the added security and the extra help with deliveries and when we have work done. Completely trustworthy.

Other than that they're detached houses, so we only have the housekeeping people who stay on the premises and keep things up. I prefer a hotel when I'm in NYC or DC. It gets too complicated when you have to keep too many places up and running.

still tons of cabs in frisco

with lights on top

i walk out my door, near downtown, and cabs galore, ive never used uber/lyft.

"frisco"??

I live in a doorman building in NYC. It’s nice to have one, although I don’t usually rely on their services that often. But other residents in my building absolutely depend on them for all sorts of things.

Some of them are nicer and more helpful than others. None of them are hot.

It's surprising how very few gay doormen there are in NYC. Unlike hotels.

We like a masc to keep the riff raff out. Queens certainly help reserve tables at booked restaurants and get tickets to booked shows. Two different specialties.

[quote] Manhattan isn't gritty and dangerous anymore.

When was the last time you were west of Lex and north of 110th?

alas....i miss the dirt grit and whores of times square

GAIETY THEATRE FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!

When was the last time you were west of Lex and north of 110th?

That would be an area we call "Harlem" were the avg home price is $972K, which is surprisingly more that the palatial doublewides with which you are obviously much more familiar.

For future reference, the presence of darker hued citizens brazenly ambulating throughout the neighborhood does not constitute either "dirty" or "gritty"

The numbers don't lie, New York is the safest city out of the 30 largest cities in America.

If you are honestly scared of modern Manhattan, you don't belong in any city.

Just get a mainsonette with building access. Easy Peasy. Best of both worlds

if the mugger dont kill ya

the hot ghastly humid summer weather will.

I have lived in a doorman building for almost15 years after never having lived in one before. I fucking love it! Endlessly convenient and my building's staff is lovely and helpful. I don't have a stream of tricks like you whores so none of that has come up!

[quote] When was the last time you were west of Lex and north of 110th?

I try to never go above 96th Street

the vulgar favors of lust::::

i have a stream of whores . yes i !!

Apostle Paul HATED his phillipians, R37. And women. Paul hated women.

many of the doorman buildings in nyc are co-ops which require people to pass stringent vetting processes.

applicants with lousy credit, questionable assets, sketchy employment histories, dicey income streams, shady relatives or associates....would never be admitted, so they are more likely to go for condos, which are much less demanding.

R56,

The problem with many of the coops is that they were so poorly managed, they are basically falling apart and now have to make up for years of neglect with high maintenance fees for new owners. The new construction I saw was only condos.

The other thing I didn’t like about coops is getting permission from the board to make any changes since you don’t actually own your unit.

These were the reasons I chose a new condo.

The reasons to be denied by the coop board would also preclude someone from purchasing a condo... except for shady relatives or associates... but that would be relatively easy to hide from the coop board as well.

Who doesn't have shady relatives?