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Halston

All but forgotten now, by everyone except Liza Minnelli.

But he really WAS fashion for American women in the 1970s.

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by Anonymousreply 212May 27, 2021 7:09 AM

He provided AIDS to many.

by Anonymousreply 1February 8, 2018 8:53 AM

I wouldn't say he is nearly forgotten. Most people still relate his name to iconic fashion hallmarks, like Jackie's pill box hat and the one-shouldered bathing/evening jersey collections.

Then even more people got to know his name after he sold it out to J.C. Penney, hardly the only designer who's done that.

But I do believe he did indeed lost complete control of his brand, as opposed to Calvin Klein or Oscar de la Renta, who kept their fashion houses.

by Anonymousreply 2February 8, 2018 8:57 AM

And to this day, his name is synonymous with Studii 54, along with Liza, Warhol, and Bianca Jagger, all of whom had achieve celebrity doing something else but became symbols for the iconic night spot.

by Anonymousreply 3February 8, 2018 9:00 AM

Was there more than one Studio 54? ("Studii")

by Anonymousreply 4February 8, 2018 9:02 AM

Oh, I don't think he's forgotten...is he?? I think he's mentioned quite a lot, especially by designers who work today. So much of his stuff really is timeless.

On a side note, when I've searched for images of his stuff in the past, it looks like Lauren Bacall donated a bunch of her evening clothes to FIT. She had a lot of Halston stuff in her collection.

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by Anonymousreply 5February 8, 2018 9:06 AM
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by Anonymousreply 6February 8, 2018 9:07 AM
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by Anonymousreply 7February 8, 2018 9:09 AM

Anjelica Huston was one of his regular models. She wore Halston to the Oscars after she moved to L.A. This outfit is refernced a lot in those endless "Best Oscar Clothes" lists that appear every few years.

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by Anonymousreply 8February 8, 2018 9:13 AM

Nupita (or whatever) Whatshername's dress that got so much attention a few years ago is basically a reworked Halston.... (the one on right)

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by Anonymousreply 9February 8, 2018 9:14 AM

No one put ultrasuede to better use.

by Anonymousreply 10February 8, 2018 9:15 AM
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by Anonymousreply 11February 8, 2018 9:16 AM

This wouldn't look the least bit dated today...I don't think.

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by Anonymousreply 12February 8, 2018 9:19 AM

That is Shelley Hack from Charlie's Angels in the first pic. Far left.

by Anonymousreply 13February 8, 2018 9:28 AM

Plus he was one of the those few fashion designers, like Calvin Klein and Marc Jacobs, who at their peak as designers were actually very hot looking themselves, which drew attention to their levels of coolness and taste. I loved that many times they could be the best models for their male lines.

by Anonymousreply 14February 8, 2018 9:28 AM

Very wearable - if you have the body forhis clothing - in that his formal pieces are not costumey at all. It’s not “let’s have a Fashion Moment!” or “let’s have an Oscars Moment!” stuff where the actresses are dressing up as fictional Hollywood Movie Stars. His women look very chic, elegant and the clothes don’t wear them.

by Anonymousreply 15February 8, 2018 9:31 AM

[quote]So much of his stuff really is timeless.

It's amazing how much of his clothing would absolutely work today with no changes. According to people who know much more about it than I, many of his pieces had very little actual sewing put into them - it was all about how the fabric was cut. Interesting...

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by Anonymousreply 16February 8, 2018 9:41 AM

He made me short stubby legs look fabulous, darling! He really was a genius and always had quaaludes.

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by Anonymousreply 17February 8, 2018 9:43 AM

Alston also designed for men and had a signature cologne.

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by Anonymousreply 18February 8, 2018 9:43 AM

His stuff really was timeless and elegant, but it only fit the tall thin body type -- since it's so unstructured, most of it is unwearable if you have curves or weigh more than 100 lbs.

Diane von Furstenberg was far less creative, but her wrap dresses are much more wearer-friendly for most women.

by Anonymousreply 19February 8, 2018 9:54 AM

R17 Interestingly, tho she was his biggest name client...I don't really think of [quote]LIZA![/italic] when I think of Halston. She doesn't wear clothes particularly well....and he just made her look-not-so-bad-as-usual.

He helped the aging Liz Taylor look a lot better, too.

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by Anonymousreply 20February 8, 2018 9:54 AM

[quote]R19 Diane von Furstenberg was far less creative, but her wrap dresses are much more wearer-friendly for most women.

This is true.

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by Anonymousreply 21February 8, 2018 9:59 AM

lol @ that pic... little frau smile. Just finished collating the copies for the new office supply cabinet policy.

by Anonymousreply 22February 8, 2018 10:02 AM

'Halston, Gucci, Fiorucci - He looks like a still, that man is dressed to kill. Oh wow, He's the greatest dancer.' Golden days of disco

by Anonymousreply 23February 8, 2018 10:06 AM

[quote]R22 lol @ that pic... little frau smile. Just finished collating the copies for the new office supply cabinet policy.

I didn't dare link to her blog....people will just be mean!

She's happy...I bet she makes a mean crudite dip.

by Anonymousreply 24February 8, 2018 10:09 AM

Halston is not just NOT forgotten, it has been revived as 'Halston Heritage' and does quite well.

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by Anonymousreply 25February 8, 2018 10:10 AM

SJP was the President of Halston Heritage for a while

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by Anonymousreply 26February 8, 2018 10:11 AM

I think Rachel Zoe directed Halston Heritage at some point - she was hired by Pigstein.

by Anonymousreply 27February 8, 2018 10:11 AM

This still sells

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by Anonymousreply 28February 8, 2018 10:11 AM

At once masculine and feminine, friendly and formal, and chic and sexy, Halston perfume for women embodies the mixed-crowd ethos of the Studio 54 denizens who wore it.

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by Anonymousreply 29February 8, 2018 10:13 AM

Jerry

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by Anonymousreply 30February 8, 2018 10:14 AM

You can imagine Joan or Norma Shearer in this beautiful Halston gown, from 1975

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by Anonymousreply 31February 8, 2018 10:15 AM

SWISH

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by Anonymousreply 32February 8, 2018 10:16 AM

Caftan. Earrings?

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by Anonymousreply 33February 8, 2018 10:16 AM

Cindy

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by Anonymousreply 34February 8, 2018 10:17 AM

Apricot shimmer

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by Anonymousreply 35February 8, 2018 10:18 AM

Bronze sequins

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by Anonymousreply 36February 8, 2018 10:19 AM

[quote]R31 You can imagine Joan or Norma Shearer in this beautiful Halston gown, from 1975

We did. At R5

by Anonymousreply 37February 8, 2018 10:29 AM

I'm always searching for THIS to come up in the right size, at the right price. They should reissue it; maybe a licensing issue?

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by Anonymousreply 38February 8, 2018 10:36 AM

It's a shame he's no longer around making anything. These look like absolutely fabulous garments to mince and flounce in.

by Anonymousreply 39February 8, 2018 10:46 AM

Some of the Halston Heritage pieces look good. Unfortunately, they're polyester.

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by Anonymousreply 40February 8, 2018 10:52 AM

My dog used to eat his food when he was with Purina

by Anonymousreply 41February 8, 2018 10:55 AM

his colognes were damn good

still wear em

by Anonymousreply 42February 8, 2018 10:58 AM

This model shoot at the end never gets old. Captures the era exactly.

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by Anonymousreply 43February 8, 2018 10:58 AM

Halston Heritage

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by Anonymousreply 44February 8, 2018 11:02 AM

Slept with him

by Anonymousreply 45February 8, 2018 11:42 AM

Re: R33, I didn’t know a caftan could look that good.

by Anonymousreply 46February 8, 2018 11:56 AM

[quote]His stuff really was timeless and elegant, but it only fit the tall thin body type -- since it's so unstructured, most of it is unwearable if you have curves or weigh more than 100 lbs.

Not really. Pat Ast was one of his muses (left in the pic below, with Candy Darling and...Rashida Jones?! How old is that bitch anyway?)

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by Anonymousreply 47February 8, 2018 12:07 PM

Karen Bjornson (from R12) was a Halston house model, and became one of his his favorites. She spends part of her time discussing her work for him HERE:

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by Anonymousreply 48February 8, 2018 12:09 PM

Karen Bjornson in Halston ad

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by Anonymousreply 49February 8, 2018 12:12 PM

Loved him.

by Anonymousreply 50February 8, 2018 12:13 PM

I love the idea of Halston.

by Anonymousreply 51February 8, 2018 12:20 PM

Nearly every evening, he would have a steak delivered to his apartment from "21" and then he would order an escort from "Dial a Dick" to cap off his evening.

by Anonymousreply 52February 8, 2018 12:32 PM

Once arrested in Central Park while doing some late night cruising. The Halston biography by Steven Gaines is a fun read.

by Anonymousreply 53February 8, 2018 12:35 PM

R45 you better spill RIGHT NOW!

by Anonymousreply 54February 8, 2018 2:23 PM

[quote] His women look very chic, elegant and the clothes don’t wear them.

It wears you;you don't wear it!

by Anonymousreply 55February 8, 2018 4:48 PM

Blair: Halston's just come out with a terrific new line.

Jo: I know. I've been out with him. You can't believe a word he says.

by Anonymousreply 56February 8, 2018 4:57 PM

Simply Halston... and you’re right R53.

by Anonymousreply 57February 8, 2018 4:59 PM

R55 Liza had one too many snorts this morning. It's the woman wears the dress, not the dress wears the woman.

by Anonymousreply 58February 8, 2018 5:08 PM

r58, see 00:58.

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by Anonymousreply 59February 8, 2018 5:12 PM

Sorry--I meant 00:57.

by Anonymousreply 60February 8, 2018 5:13 PM

Cutting jersey & ultra suede is tricky for any dressmaker.

Cutting them on the bias is arguably THE hardest thing.

Halston did better than anyone ever had (has?!).

I remember reading an article in W some years ago, about two partnered bears in Brooklyn.

They were making jersey and other sheer fabric gowns to a growing list of A-lister fashionistas right out of their apartment. They referenced “Roy” quite a bit in the story.

No one draped fabric like Halston.

by Anonymousreply 61February 8, 2018 5:19 PM

I just started to work with clay.

by Anonymousreply 62February 8, 2018 5:35 PM

I fucked in his townhouse after he had died (did the guy who was taking care of the property).

I was able to park my little Ford Escort inside the garage that connected with the kitchen. Then we went upstairs to the bedrooms and further upstairs to the living room area.

Very minimalist. The all white furniture was still there but there were marks on the walls where the artwork used to be. An all-around semi-creepy experience.

by Anonymousreply 63February 8, 2018 5:51 PM

R63, do you only have sex in the former residences of the famous?

by Anonymousreply 64February 8, 2018 8:09 PM

R63 here?

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by Anonymousreply 65February 8, 2018 9:04 PM

It looks fucking GORGE

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by Anonymousreply 66February 8, 2018 9:04 PM

Go beige or GO HOME

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by Anonymousreply 67February 8, 2018 9:08 PM

I thought his designs were hideous, more like costumes for the stage.

by Anonymousreply 68February 8, 2018 9:13 PM

I adored Halston men's cologne.... Z-14 & 1-12.... My first serious bf @ university had a luxe blue-grey Ultrasuede Halston blazer. Beautiful lining, and great high notched lapels. He found it new in a charity shop for £2!

by Anonymousreply 69February 8, 2018 9:19 PM

I've always loved the name Halston too.... Just rolls off the tongue, and sounds oh so very distingue'!

by Anonymousreply 70February 8, 2018 9:36 PM

[quote] I was able to park my little Ford Escort inside the garage that connected with the kitchen.

Swanky!

by Anonymousreply 71February 9, 2018 3:30 AM

Yes r65 and r67. It was in the east 60's off of 5th Ave. If I had the Escort, it had to be the period between1987 and 1992 (when I lived in Park Slope before Brooklyn was fashionable and actually had a car).

What I remember the most was a side staircase with no handrail or protection from falling into that lower living space. So minimalist!

by Anonymousreply 72February 9, 2018 11:27 AM

[quote][R63], do you only have sex in the former residences of the famous?

😂. Both those instances I met the caretakers at Rounds, which was located nearby (the Marcos mansion was off of 5th as well).

The three things that impressed me the most about the empty Imelda home-

a huge multi-story high portrait of her that hit you as soon as you walked in.

a full working elevator

the disco on the top floor (we were able to take monogrammed disco plastic cups home as souvenirs).

The guys who were taking care of that mansion (yes, it was an Anglo-Latino-Philippine group scene, with me contributing to the Latino side) worked for Corazón Aquino.

by Anonymousreply 73February 9, 2018 11:35 AM

Oh, and I know we met at Rounds, but I wasn't charging, even though the Imelda scene had a few rent boys in it. These Filipino caretakers knew they could take advantage of their position to sway rent boys to work for free. So they would turn their tricks and then come back at the end of the night to go hang out at Ferdinand and Imelda's.

Lots of coke involved.

by Anonymousreply 74February 9, 2018 11:39 AM

Personally speaking, I could listen to R74 reminiscing for days.

by Anonymousreply 75February 9, 2018 12:02 PM

OMG I Just realized that st some point in those days I may have had an Escort full of escorts...

by Anonymousreply 76February 9, 2018 12:23 PM

According to Lorna Luft’s book, if you weren’t a celebrity, he would ignore you. He just barely tolerated her because she was Liza Minnelli’s sister. He was such a snobbish bitch.

by Anonymousreply 77February 9, 2018 1:04 PM

Oh, my. I had two of those silver monogrammed plastic cups referenced by R73. Kept them for years and years. There was an equally epic portrait of Ferdinand next to the portrait of Imelda. And gold plated fixtures in the can. The little needlepoint pillows tossed around in the disco were a mad camp. The whole place was vulgar beyond belief.

In the '70's, as a gay college student, I moved into my first apartment with a friend. I hadn't a sou, but still got to J.C. Penney to score Halston sheets for my bed. It had to be done. And it was!

by Anonymousreply 78February 9, 2018 1:13 PM

r43 the song was great too in that scene ...oh to go back. The best times of my life

by Anonymousreply 79February 9, 2018 1:17 PM

Halston was his middle name. I grew up in the Indiana town where he graduated high school and the old timers there remembered him when he was Roy Frowick.

by Anonymousreply 80February 9, 2018 1:28 PM

I remember when he designed ultrasuede uniforms for Braniff’s flight attendants. They were the envy of the industry.

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by Anonymousreply 81February 9, 2018 1:39 PM

I was living in SF when he died and I remember an article about his funeral in the Chronicle . There was a picture of a very devastated Liza at the service. She was the only one of his celebrated friends to attend. I will always give her props for that.

by Anonymousreply 82February 9, 2018 1:55 PM

I was mad about his clothes and I thought he was so sophisticated and handsome. On my first NYC layover(at the old Park Sheraton) I looked him up in the phone book and he was listed! Roy H. Frowick and his address.

by Anonymousreply 83February 9, 2018 2:08 PM

[quote]The little needlepoint pillows tossed around in the disco were a mad camp.

It's the little details that make DL THE premiere online destination for gay gossip seekers.

by Anonymousreply 84February 9, 2018 8:01 PM

r82 I read that he barred anyone from his "Studio 54" days and other party cronies from coming to see him in the hospital when he was dying.

by Anonymousreply 85February 9, 2018 8:09 PM

R81 That's no stewardess, that's MY KAREN BJORNSON, interviewed upthread!

Edith Head overhauled some airline's look at one point, too...but Halston's take is so much more stylish.

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by Anonymousreply 86February 9, 2018 8:38 PM

Edith's version is too fuddy-duddy for words....

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by Anonymousreply 87February 9, 2018 8:41 PM

Halson's airline crew is ready to have sex with you in the aisles RIGHT NOW!

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by Anonymousreply 88February 9, 2018 8:44 PM

Only Pucci brought haute couture to our flight hostesses!

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by Anonymousreply 89February 9, 2018 8:44 PM

R89 I love that middle outfit so much! I want to buy it for all my friends who go on and on about their food allergies, etc. and say, "Here, put on your helmet."

There was some stewardess who had been with that airline for 30 years or something and had all the Pucci pieces (there were a lot) in great collection. She either toured with them, or auctioned them, or both.

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by Anonymousreply 90February 9, 2018 8:48 PM

HERE'S article about the sale....it had both the Pucci and Halston collections in it. 90 pieces.

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by Anonymousreply 91February 9, 2018 8:51 PM

Halston!

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by Anonymousreply 92February 9, 2018 8:54 PM

Isn't that Pat Cleveland to the left in the pic of the Braniff flight attendant's?

by Anonymousreply 93February 9, 2018 8:56 PM

R93 Yes!

I like that the stewardess who preserved all her Pucci and Halston uniforms for decades was named [italic]Mary Sue[/italic] (!)

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by Anonymousreply 94February 9, 2018 9:00 PM

Like a Jackie/Jane Jetson mash-up......

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by Anonymousreply 95February 9, 2018 9:03 PM

That hatmaker famously and shamelessly stole every decent design he ever used from the immortal Charles James. James was furious about it until his death.

by Anonymousreply 96February 9, 2018 9:09 PM

Halston's designs were quite different from Charles James's designs.

by Anonymousreply 97February 9, 2018 9:11 PM

Christine Pedi is a damned genius. That Liza video is hysterical!

by Anonymousreply 98February 9, 2018 9:13 PM

[quote]R96 Halston shamelessly stole every decent design he ever used from the immortal Charles James. James was furious about it until his death.

Charles James' elaborate clothes were very restricting, with tons of boning.....Halston's were easy to wear and constructed from few pieces of fabric. They could not be more different.

Halston's frenemy Charlie is a LIAR!!

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by Anonymousreply 99February 9, 2018 9:21 PM

He was talented (he really did create an original American look that I think Armani picked up on) and he was extremely successful, until he was not. He had an addiction to hustlers and coke which pretty much ruined his life (career and personal.) He is a cautionary tale as far as I am concerned. And yes he was a fixture at Studio.

I knew the woman who ran his couture business on Madison Ave and I met him a few times. She was (and is) a gem of a woman, who after a while based her continued employ on not having to speak with or work with Halston because he was such a monster. She was (is) classy, down home, kind, aristocratic, sophisticated etc all in one person and Halston's high end clients who were not Liza and Elizabeth loved her- they did not particularly like him to put it mildly. Halston knew what he had in her, and that her "pedigree" was something he could never touch.

I think in spite of his great success and talent- that his life was a tragedy. He really did not have friends toward the end. Nice that Liza remained loyal. as some have said on this thread. I wouldn't know about that. But then she too fell to the same demons and although she did not die, she just sort of ruined her career. She differs from H in that she is a nice person.

by Anonymousreply 100February 9, 2018 9:21 PM

I would love some old bottles the mens colognes if they haven't gone off. The current dime store versions are as bad as they should be but nothing really like the originals.

by Anonymousreply 101February 9, 2018 9:24 PM

are NOT as bad

by Anonymousreply 102February 9, 2018 9:24 PM

[quote]R100 ...he was such a monster....Halston's high end clients did not particularly like him, to put it mildly....Liza differs from H in that she is a nice person.

Thanks for sharing that.

I have no problem believing he was a bitchy, controlling queen. I'm just speaking of his clothes.

by Anonymousreply 103February 9, 2018 9:25 PM

Exactly R97.

Don’t get me wrong, Charles James was one of the 20 or so greatest Couturiers of all time, but as R97 says, Halston & James have almost nothing in common.

The greats all understand/ understood draping though Halston was the best.

The costumes in Phantom Thread remind me of The Charles James esthetic.

by Anonymousreply 104February 9, 2018 9:26 PM

No one would ever mistake this for Halston...

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by Anonymousreply 105February 9, 2018 9:30 PM

Cocaine was really Halston's downfall. It made him crazy - temper tantrums, moodiness, angry for no real reason - if you've ever had experience being around a cokehead you know exactly what that's like. The person just becomes unbearable. His coke addiction also affected his ability to work and made him make bad business decisions. It was very sad, for a man who was so gifted.

by Anonymousreply 106February 9, 2018 9:41 PM

[quote]The costumes in Phantom Thread remind me of The Charles James esthetic.

Which would make sense, given he was the prime inspiration for the Reynolds Woodcock character.

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by Anonymousreply 108February 9, 2018 9:45 PM

I met Roy Halston at a party in Kensington when I was about 20 in the late 1980's, I had no idea that he was famous at the time and only remember him because he said that he'd sailed over on The QE2.

He seemed like a nice guy.

by Anonymousreply 109February 9, 2018 10:07 PM

We're all impressed with you're Halston dress.

by Anonymousreply 110February 9, 2018 10:08 PM

^^ Hate to be a Grammar Queen but it's [BOLD] Your [/BOLD] not [BOLD] You're [/BOLD] (unless you mean [BOLD]'You Are' [/BOLD] which would make no sense

by Anonymousreply 111February 9, 2018 10:19 PM

This is as elaborate as I've seen Halston get. (At least, I believe it's his...)

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by Anonymousreply 112February 9, 2018 10:31 PM

A direct link is too long and won't post. Scroll down this page to the link "New York Magazine - Oct 16, 1978 - Page 88 - Google Books Result," 2nd column near bottom, paragraph beginning "On the wall of James's workroom was a list of designs that he alleged Halston had stolen from him: the figure-eight skirt, designed in 1939; plagiarized by Halston, said James, in 1969....' and following.

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by Anonymousreply 113February 9, 2018 10:49 PM

R113 Well, we would really have to see the pieces in question. And as they always say, There's really nothing new in fashion, it's all recycling.

by Anonymousreply 114February 10, 2018 12:38 AM

Halston had BDF.

by Anonymousreply 115February 10, 2018 12:47 AM
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by Anonymousreply 116February 10, 2018 1:09 AM

Let'sh do shome more linesh! *hic* Here, I'll cut 'em up!

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by Anonymousreply 117February 10, 2018 1:22 AM

There’s a great short story called “By Halston” that centers around the night of the release of his JC Penney line in 1983. Andy Warhol, Liza (of course), and Steve Rubell are all characters. And they end up at Studio 54 after the fashion show. Halston is portrayed as rather cunty (and is anti-Semetic at the end). He’s dancing with Liza near a very drunk Truman Capote in the last scene.

by Anonymousreply 118February 10, 2018 1:57 AM

R113 Okay, well this seems to be something Charles James felt was tolen from him by Halston.

Apparently, he felt he invented the technique of sewing different fabrics together, to create the illusion of printed stripes (?) Maybe he believed he invented the cape, too?

[italic]Mary....![/italic]

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by Anonymousreply 119February 10, 2018 2:01 AM

Cheryl Tiegs in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 120February 10, 2018 2:06 AM

Brooke Shields in Halston (1980)

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by Anonymousreply 121February 10, 2018 2:13 AM

Farrah Fawcett in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 122February 10, 2018 2:15 AM

Beverly Johnson in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 123February 10, 2018 2:19 AM

Diana Ross in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 124February 10, 2018 2:24 AM

Marisa Berenson in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 125February 10, 2018 2:29 AM

Lauren Hutton in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 126February 10, 2018 2:33 AM

[quote] Rashida Jones?! How old is that bitch anyway?

Rashida was born in 76 and Halston died in 1990. Maybe she was tall at 14.

by Anonymousreply 127February 10, 2018 3:09 AM

Pat Cleveland in Halston

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by Anonymousreply 128February 10, 2018 3:12 AM

This documentary is great, if you can find it streaming on amazon or netflix, or wherever.

Oscar de la Renta, Bill Blass, Anne Klein, Halston, and Stephen Burrows.....

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by Anonymousreply 129February 10, 2018 3:17 AM

Super thread, nice to see our Charlie again

by Anonymousreply 130February 10, 2018 3:38 AM

Nosing around for Halston on youtube, this made me laugh:

[quote][bold]Pauline Trigère Sells Stoves whilst being Fabulous - 1967

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by Anonymousreply 131February 10, 2018 3:52 AM

I read that there was some big fashion event in the 70s where Nan Kempner fried an egg on a sterno stove on the stage while wearing Halston couture.

That kind of glamour just doesn't exist anymore.

by Anonymousreply 132February 10, 2018 4:28 AM

Janice Dickinson on the far left

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by Anonymousreply 133February 10, 2018 5:09 AM
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by Anonymousreply 134February 10, 2018 5:14 AM

Sadly, the model in the pink shirt on the left in R134 killed herself at just age 19. Her name was Pola.

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by Anonymousreply 135February 10, 2018 5:18 AM

Halston blouse in [italic]American Hustle[/italic] (2013)

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by Anonymousreply 136February 10, 2018 5:26 AM
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by Anonymousreply 137February 10, 2018 5:45 AM

Referring to earlier in the thread, Daniel Day Lewis's Woodcock character in Phantom Thread was a composite of several designers of the period but primarily Charles James and Balenciaga. But considering that Balenciaga, despite remaining deeply closeted his entire life, was entirely gay, and that James, despite being very effeminate, was bi but definitely tending more towards straight, the straight Woodcock is probably closer to James.

James was an extremely complicated and difficult man and his relationship with Halston was long ongoing and extremely complex.

But he justly never forgave that grifter milliner.

by Anonymousreply 138February 10, 2018 5:46 AM

[quote]R138 But he justly never forgave that grifter milliner.

Get the HELL OUT'A HERE! Ya hear me?? GET OUT!

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by Anonymousreply 139February 10, 2018 6:04 AM

[quote]R98 Christine Pedi is a damned genius. That Liza video is hysterical!

Have you seen this? So good...

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by Anonymousreply 140February 10, 2018 7:21 AM

It’s interesting how he could make pieces that were so glam but looked comfortable. Most of his stuff is like sexy pajamas.

by Anonymousreply 141February 10, 2018 7:57 AM

{quote] Most of his stuff is like sexy pajamas.

Good observation! Perfect for a somewhat [italic]slutty[/italic] era!

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by Anonymousreply 142February 10, 2018 8:23 AM

Who SHAYSH we did drugsh...?

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by Anonymousreply 143February 10, 2018 8:29 AM

[quote]Not really. Pat Ast was one of his muses (left in the pic below, with Candy Darling and...Rashida Jones?! How old is that bitch anyway?)

I did not see this answered: The 3rd person in the pic at R47 appears to be Marissa Berensen.

by Anonymousreply 144February 10, 2018 9:22 AM

It was a joke R144

I am fairly certain that every DLer over 50 recognized Berenson.

by Anonymousreply 145February 10, 2018 6:40 PM

Halschton

by Anonymousreply 146February 10, 2018 6:42 PM

R131 made me holler

by Anonymousreply 147February 10, 2018 6:45 PM

Did Halston alieanate his friends? Were there only a few friends that were still around at the time of death?

by Anonymousreply 148February 10, 2018 6:48 PM

R81 I remember Braniff going with Pucci prior to Halston!

by Anonymousreply 149February 10, 2018 9:22 PM

Halston the perfume indeed still sells -- at T.J. Maxx for $9.99 for 3.4 oz. Men and women's. Inexplicably low end but it still smells good, especially Halston Amber.

by Anonymousreply 150February 10, 2018 9:26 PM

So do I r149. I still long for the rain helmet.

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by Anonymousreply 151February 10, 2018 10:19 PM

At r143:

Those are the minimalist rail-less stairs I spoke about upthread!

by Anonymousreply 152February 11, 2018 2:16 AM

Now designing from the afterworld for QVC

This gem is from their H by Halston line.

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by Anonymousreply 153February 11, 2018 2:23 AM

Thank the goddess he's not alive to see that....!

by Anonymousreply 154February 11, 2018 2:31 AM

He was very fuckable.

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by Anonymousreply 155February 11, 2018 2:38 AM

R154 The fabric looks more like Diane von Furstenberg, if anything.

by Anonymousreply 156February 11, 2018 2:41 AM

He had huge hands.

by Anonymousreply 157February 11, 2018 7:21 AM

When was the Halston III line pulled out of Penney's?

An article in the NYTimes a few months after the launch made it sound like a hit. And I'd read elsewhere that the first line totally sold out.

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by Anonymousreply 158February 11, 2018 7:51 AM

The Penney’s line was initially a hit, but quickly took a nosedive.

by Anonymousreply 159February 11, 2018 5:21 PM

Did Halston have a funeral? Where were his friends when he died?

by Anonymousreply 160February 12, 2018 12:28 AM

Amazing that he'd be 86 in a couple of months if he were still alive.

by Anonymousreply 161February 12, 2018 12:34 AM

Halston alienated a lot of people with his coke-fueled behavior, and many chose not to bother with him anymore. The last few years of his life were quite sad an reclusive. I believe his last public appearance was at Andy Warhol's funeral.

by Anonymousreply 162February 12, 2018 12:44 AM

I remembered that Halston had designed the bridesmaid and wedding outfits for Sly Stone's wedding.

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by Anonymousreply 163February 12, 2018 12:56 AM

Who could play Halston in a biopic of his life? He'd have to be tall, of course.

by Anonymousreply 164February 12, 2018 12:58 AM

R164 Matt Bomer

by Anonymousreply 165February 12, 2018 1:08 AM

gorgeous clothes. expecially because they were from the 70s, the most awful decade for fashion. Bravo Halston!

by Anonymousreply 166February 12, 2018 1:15 AM

Armie Hammer r164.

by Anonymousreply 167February 12, 2018 1:18 AM

I worked as an intern for Halston when I was at F.I.T. Not a nice man, especially to unimportant women.

Still love Z14 and still wear it today. I think the formula is changed, but still love it. Memories of Xenon, Studio and Saint all in a small brown bottle.

by Anonymousreply 168February 12, 2018 1:33 AM

From the Halston book:

On June 15, 1970, Halston showed a collection that mingled their work. It was as if everything wonderful about Halston’s first collections had been ruined. By general consensus the show was awful, a hodgepodge of styles. Women’s Wear Daily summed up James’s contribution with a brusque “In the soft seventies, who wants engineered clothes?” It was the only negative thing that the paper had said about a Halston collection in three years.

Predictably, James got along no better with Halston than he had with anyone else. Said James, “One day Halston walked into the showroom he had given me, which wasn’t all that nice, and said, ‘You’re too old to design. How much do you want to stop being in this business and just live forever?’ He offered me $250 a week for the rest of my life. I declined. I knew he just wanted to steal my work, claim it as his own, of course.”

“Halston became Halston after the Charles James show, because he realized he was as good as Charles James,” said the designer Clovis Ruffin. “He came to the full realization of his talent, and he didn’t need anybody after that. He did the most brilliant, fabulous clothes after that.”

Charles James never made peace with Halston or with the rest of the world. He was found dead of pneumonia and kidney failure in 1978. He was discovered by his assistant, Homer Layne, lying on the bed in his boxer shorts and dirty undershirt, surrounded by plates of decaying food, dress forms, bolts of fabric, and his fabulous sketches of fashions that never came to be.

by Anonymousreply 169February 12, 2018 2:00 AM

He wasn't that attractive. He looks like a skinny Ben Platt at R155.

by Anonymousreply 170February 12, 2018 2:08 AM

More dish from the Halston Book by Steven Gaines:

"While Victor Hugo filled the emotional abyss in Halston’s life, the physical was being taken care of by Robert Rogers, an unassuming black man of medium height and build in his late twenties who was one of Manhattan’s most successful male prostitutes. Rogers was known as “Cuelar” and made $150 an hour with a call-boy service known as the Black Kings. Cuelar said he saw Halston sixty or seventy times. “He asked me if I knew of anybody else who was like me, a nice black guy who’s well endowed. And I said I did. . . . Between 1980 and 1983, I sent him many, many guys.”

Halston’s ultimate fantasy, according to Cuelar, was to have sex with a heterosexual black man, a blue-collar worker, if possible, right off the street, and he was willing to pay dearly for it—up to $500. Cuelar claimed to have waited at the 125th Street subway station in Harlem and picked men out of the crowd.

“I would say that Halston was eccentric,” said Cuelar. “When you entered his place he would buzz you in, but he would be upstairs on the top floor and he would call from upstairs and say, ‘Have a seat, I’ll be right down.’ He would come down, always all in black and these silver clogs. He would descend the stairs very slowly and say, ‘Welcome. Would you like a drink?’ Then he would say, ‘Would you like to go upstairs?’ You were never in bed more than ten minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 171February 12, 2018 2:13 AM

Back in '79 Liza was so high she became convinced that SkyLab was going to fall on her head. She was frantic, escaping to Halston's Long Island compound. When the terrified Minelli arrived, Halston took her by the hand led her out to the porch, pointed to the back yard and said "Look. That's where SkyLab is going to fall." Then they sat down together and waited until it was announced that SkyLab had disintegrated over Australia.

by Anonymousreply 172February 12, 2018 2:29 AM

Didn't the notorious Klinton Spillsbury say that he went to Studio 54 to promote Lone Ranger and woke up in bed with Halston?

by Anonymousreply 173February 12, 2018 2:41 AM

A possibility to play Halston would be the guy who played him in "54 - Director's Cut." He and Phillippe get it on in a hot tub. He also fucks "Bianca Jagger. "

Mike Meyers is great as Steve Rubell. He says to Ryan Phillippe "Hey, if you're the one asking for a promotion shouldn't I be the one unzipping my pants?" And in the scene below he tries to seduce a busboy. "I wanna suck your cock."

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by Anonymousreply 174February 12, 2018 2:48 AM

Lily Tomlin should play Halston.

by Anonymousreply 175February 12, 2018 2:54 AM

R168 This would be interesting to hear more about - -

by Anonymousreply 176February 12, 2018 4:00 AM

That’s a Warhol Pic @ R143.

by Anonymousreply 177February 15, 2018 11:18 PM

Too bad Andy didn't frame Liza's shoes into the pic.

by Anonymousreply 178February 15, 2018 11:20 PM

R164, Allison Janney

by Anonymousreply 179February 16, 2018 2:09 AM

I'm surprised this thread didn't go further.

When I was F.I.T. mid 80's all of the cute guys ended up with internships with designers through a man named Professor Roberts. He was a fun old queen. I ended up at Halston. Friends worked at Perry Ellis, Norma Kamali, Tattoo and Bonjour Jeans. Sadly I'm the only one of my group that is still alive. ( the guys that is )

Left the Halston job to work at Xenon which at that point was a dying dog.

Roy Halston was way past his sell by date when I knew him. My entree was model Esme Marshall who I knew from back home in Boston. Drugs, both coke and meth, plus that awful "Victor Hugo" pig did him in.

Sad. In his day he was the American answer to YSL.

by Anonymousreply 180February 19, 2018 1:30 AM

Halston was unlike any other designer before or since. A true original.

My favorite story is about how he could take a piece of fabric and a pair of scissors and make a gob-smacking dress in 5 mins (and 5 lines). All about design.

Liza's couture/custom collection must be over-the-top incredible... and that apartment/house! Perhaps the coolest 70s pad in NYC history. Unbelievable.

by Anonymousreply 181February 19, 2018 2:10 AM

I knew Esme from meeting her in Cambridge in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 182February 19, 2018 2:22 AM

R181 R182

Your friend, Esme [bold]: )

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by Anonymousreply 183February 19, 2018 6:14 AM

Esme was the receptionist at a fancy Boston salon call Diego at the Loft. That's where I met her. Went in town to get my haircut there in High School.

I was very grand.

by Anonymousreply 184February 19, 2018 11:20 PM

I remember reading a piece back in the day on interior decor in which Halston haughtily insisted that books be displayed backwards, with spines invisible. What say you to that, tasteful friends?

by Anonymousreply 185February 20, 2018 12:18 AM

R180. Wow! You were at the epicenter. It must have fabulous. More!

by Anonymousreply 186February 20, 2018 12:21 AM

Victor Hugo was a total user, and encouraged Halston's drug use. Everybody wondered what Halston saw in him. Even Liza couldn't stand him, and she gets along with pretty much anyone.

by Anonymousreply 187February 20, 2018 2:52 AM

Hey Halshton, let'sh go back to the bashement and do shome more linesh! It'll be terrific!

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by Anonymousreply 188February 20, 2018 2:55 AM

R184: Diego At The Loft! Hadn't thought of that business in years!

I was working at Filene's at the time (NOT as a sales bottom, in the executive offices, you bitches). and used to get my haircut on Newberry St (Not at Diego, though).

Ever go to Napolean's?

by Anonymousreply 189February 20, 2018 3:09 AM

[QUOTE]Victor Hugo was a total user, and encouraged Halston's drug use. Everybody wondered what Halston saw in him

A BIG, FAT COCK

by Anonymousreply 190February 20, 2018 3:15 AM

I always love your stories FormerBHManny!

by Anonymousreply 191February 20, 2018 3:18 AM

God the vintage Halstone stuff was fab! He really was an original. Kind of masterfully handled the drapery and bias-cut techniques that Vionnet pioneered and Alaia is remembered for now - but combined it with the of the look of the moment and highbrow elegance of YSL - yet was quintessentially American - and his casual stuff had a sporty dash about it that owes a debt to home grown designers like Claire McArdell. Given how horrible so many seventies trends and looks were - he really stand out. Really knew how to make women look effortlessly elegant and beautiful.

Was so handsome and patrician himself when young too! But after a while he got that leathery look - and you knew he’d reek of cigarettes and too much cologne (even if it was his own creation!). Kinda sad tale in a way. But was it? I mean - he had a great life! Lotsa dough, the best of everything - amazing apartment! - famous friends, booze, drugs, hookers... so he was only middle aged when he died. Meh. Would he have rather lived to be 86 if he’d had to forego all that and clean up his act?

by Anonymousreply 192February 20, 2018 3:52 AM

Grrr! iPhone! Halston - not halstone! New culpa!

by Anonymousreply 193February 20, 2018 3:56 AM

Threads like this are why I still enjoy coming to DL. Such great stories!

by Anonymousreply 194February 20, 2018 4:12 AM

My life has had 3 acts. My life as a baby gay in NYC, then back home to Boston, then off to L.A./ BH.

F.I.T. was really magical. My job with Halston was really, really unimportant. They would dress me up and send me to events and promotions. It was fun but it sometimes included the Smithhaven Mall and worse. Again, I still have Z14 on my dresser.

As for Napoleon's', I went a couple of times. Dragged really. Chaps was my happy hunting ground.

Mentioned upthread, Roy Halston was an amazing talent, a really flawed human being and what I now believe was bipolar. He wildly self medicated and was taken advantage of by a lot of bad people. My interactions with him were usually great but once in a while you just never knew.

by Anonymousreply 195February 21, 2018 2:00 AM

Someone referenced a short story called “By Halston” upthread but didn’t mention the author. Is it part of a collection? Would love to read it.

by Anonymousreply 196February 21, 2018 10:17 PM

I always find good books to read on DL. Someone mentioned "The Club" by Stephen Gaines. I had to send off for it. It's fabulous! I never knew Liza was such a whore!

by Anonymousreply 197February 22, 2018 1:31 AM

R196, that story is a part of a collection of short stories called “At Danceteria and Other Stories” by Philip Dean Walker. My book club read it last year.

And the Halston story (which I believe appears first in the book) is fantastic. In fact, at times it feels like Gaines’ “The Club” mentioned by R197. Liza is portrayed as an endearingly coked-up puppet. Andy Warhol, Steve Rubell, and Truman Capote all make appearances. The story centers around the night of his J.C. Penney fashion show.

by Anonymousreply 198February 22, 2018 2:38 PM

Liza said that Halston invented her.

by Anonymousreply 199February 22, 2018 4:34 PM

Thanks for the info R198, I finished "The Club." Do you know who any of the characters were in real life beside the obvious ones like Liza, Halston, Bianca, Mick, and "Alvin" Klein? Like Kate Dunn (not sure of first name) who was portrayed as an older, blonde, Broadway star. In the book, she's married to an industrialist and keeping the bartender. They end up together at the end. I was wondering if it was supposed to be Lauren Bacall. I saw her back then in "Woman of the Year," which I think was around the same time as "The Act," maybe earlier, not sure.

by Anonymousreply 200February 22, 2018 8:45 PM

Re: r135 -

There's more gossip about the Halston model Pola, who killed herself at age 21, HERE:

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by Anonymousreply 201February 22, 2018 9:15 PM

Victor Hugo reportedly had a 10" cock.

by Anonymousreply 202February 22, 2018 9:41 PM

Ha, ha, Liza's said a lot of things. But Kander and Ebb and Bob Fosse might have their own opinions on the subject.

Does anyone know who came up with her iconic hairstyle? It couldn't have been Sassoon because I believe she had it cut in Berlin.

by Anonymousreply 203February 24, 2018 7:52 PM

Believe it or not, but Liza's father Vincente influenced her regarding her classic "Cabaret" hairstyle that she's worn in one form or another ever since. When Liza was researching the period, Vincente suggested that she get inspiration from Louise Brooks.

by Anonymousreply 204February 25, 2018 12:53 AM

R204, she had the boyish haircut as a teen but the bizarre, avuncular styling was the idea of Gwen Verdon. She thought Sally Bowles' hair should look like it was painted on and she also found the outfit Liza wore in the title number.

by Anonymousreply 205February 26, 2018 10:15 PM

H A L S T O N

Where do I begin with my infatuation with him?

When I was 14 years old (1979) I went to the I. Magnin store in Chicago (North Michigan Avenue, right across the street from Water Tower Place, now closed) and I fell in love with a sportcoat.

In the men's department was an entire rack of black velvet sport coats by H A L S T O N. I believe they were $175.

I certainly was not in the market for such an extravagance, nor could I afford it, but I was mesmerized.

From that day forward I made a vow to own a beautiful black sport coat of any material: velvet, camel hair, cashmere. I have a few.

Of course, by the grace of eBay, a few years ago I finally found one. A vintage H A L S T O N black velvet sport coat. The inside store tag? I. Magnin.

Also, in 1982, my very first cologne purchase was the incredible H A L S T O N Z-14. Purchased where? I. Magnin, of course.

H A L S T O N

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by Anonymousreply 206February 27, 2018 3:13 AM

I saw the new documentary today. It was mildly interesting. Lots of stuff about him selling out to JC Penney and interviews of people he did with business with. Not much juicy stuff.

by Anonymousreply 207June 28, 2019 2:46 AM

I carried his luggage. Three pieces, plus tote, in that beige Ultrasuede with matte silver hardware, lined with an H-woven twill type fabric. Very nice quality.

by Anonymousreply 208June 28, 2019 11:44 AM

Battle At Versailles: The Competition that Shook the Fashion Industry | M2M youtube link / full length i believe / not sure if this has been posted

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by Anonymousreply 209June 28, 2019 2:14 PM

Wouldn't his fashion style be considered fancy, but comfortable resort wear these days?

by Anonymousreply 210June 28, 2019 2:59 PM

Bumping like Halston on a phone call

by Anonymousreply 211May 27, 2021 6:49 AM

Elegant as fuck!

If I were a woman today, I would collect and wear vintage Halston — and copies — as much as humanly possible. And diet accordingly.

Even the JCPenney Halston III stuff (when Halston was actually still designing it) on eBay is fabulous.

by Anonymousreply 212May 27, 2021 7:09 AM
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