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Generation X faces retirement crisis, 37% will not have enough money to retire

Add Gen Xers to the long list of Americans who fear they won't have a sizable enough nest egg to retire.

Nearly four out of 10 (37%) of Generation X — those born between 1965 and the late 1970s — say they would like to stop working for good and "fully retire" someday, "but will not be able to afford to," a new survey from TD Ameritrade, an online broker based in Omaha, found.

Other gloomy Gen X retirement findings:

43% say "they are behind" in their savings. Half (49%) are "worried about running out of money" once they leave the workforce. Nearly two out of 10 (17%) say they "aren't saving or investing for anything." Only a third expect to be "very secure" in retirement — vs. nearly half of Baby Boomers.

The savings shortfall has been exacerbated by the phasing out of traditional pensions funded by employers. In their place is the increasing reliance on 401(k) plans and IRAs that require workers to do most of the saving on their own.

Gen Xers aren't alone in their financial angst. The finances of the younger Millennial generation have been hurt by the Great Recession in 2008-09 and high college costs. Older Boomers, according to the TD Ameritrade survey, are also uncertain about their preparedness, with just 47% saying they expect to be "very secure" in retirement. The oldest of the roughly 65 million Gen X Americans — those now 39 to 53 — will be the next generation to retire.

Lule Demmissie, managing director of retirement and investment at TD Ameritrade, says the Gen X savings deficit is due partly to a series of setbacks — but stresses it's not too late to get back on track.

Gen Xers were derailed by three market downturns — the 1987 stock market crash, the 2000 tech stock meltdown and the 2008 financial crisis. They also were the "first 401(k) generation," which transferred the responsibility to fund retirement from employers to workers. This generation was also more likely to have grown up in a family split by divorce and as latch-key kids, two factors TD Ameritrade says lead to less financial security as adults.

"They took a lot of hits," Demmissie says.

Demmissie notes that Generation X, which started saving for retirement at 29, or five years earlier than Boomers, can reclaim their financial lives.

"It's easy to be cynical, but the important thing for Generation X is that all hope is not lost," she says. "Improving their finances is still very much in their control."

Her advice: Control what you can control. Take advantage of your 401(k). Find out how the tax-code changes will impact you. And don't expect to build your nest egg to $1 million overnight.

"Break down your financial goals into manageable milestones," she says, such as picking a year you would like to retire and figure out how much you need to save each month to get there.

The TD Ameritrade survey included 828 Gen Xers and 990 Baby Boomers.

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by Anonymousreply 39February 12, 2018 6:50 PM

With the cost of living continuing to skyrocket, it will become harder and harder for anybody to retire.

by Anonymousreply 1January 25, 2018 5:33 AM

Don't look at ME for help. If you loved Jesus, you wouldn't have any money problems. Get in line at the soup kitchen and be ready recite your Bible verse!

by Anonymousreply 2January 25, 2018 5:49 AM

It doesn't help that Boomers refuse to retire and hand over the keys.

by Anonymousreply 3January 25, 2018 5:51 AM

There's also the fact that GenX will be the first generation to inherit next to nothing. The Boomers are living so long that they are using up every bit of money they have once they have to go into long term care. Even the healthier ones are reverse mortgaging their homes so the bank will take it upon their death. I mean, it's their money but this is something that has changed in the last generation and it is going to hit GenX really hard over the next few decades.

GenX will also have the cost of taking care of their parents and, sometimes, their Millennial children and, sometimes, their iGen grandchildren all on wages that have languished since the day they were born. When added to the lack of fixed pensions, the stagnant wages, the student debt for themselves and their kids, and the rising costs of housing and food, GenX is starting their "golden years" under a lead boulder.

by Anonymousreply 4January 25, 2018 6:20 AM

Keeping up with technology is expensive. Use to be one phone per household, one car per family, TV reception was free. Now it’s one phone per person, multiple cars per family, paid cable TV, computers, printers, iPads, iPods, laptops.. flat and large screen HD TVs in every room, and....it all becomes obsolete much faster now.

by Anonymousreply 5January 25, 2018 6:27 AM

As what were once luxuries become cheaper the actual essentials (like education, healthcare and retirement funds) keep slipping out of reach.

The business model is no longer so much about making better products than your rivals, but capturing one of life's essentials and forcing everyone to pay up or die.

by Anonymousreply 6January 25, 2018 6:43 AM

Exactly, R6.

by Anonymousreply 7January 25, 2018 7:24 AM

Depressing.

by Anonymousreply 8January 25, 2018 9:34 AM

Fill up 10 credit cards (before my FICO score plummets) and take a long walk off a short pier. That's my retirement plan. And it may be a lot sooner than 65 for a variety of reasons.

by Anonymousreply 9January 25, 2018 9:54 AM

R6 summed it up perfectly.

by Anonymousreply 10January 25, 2018 10:08 AM

[quote]There's also the fact that GenX will be the first generation to inherit next to nothing.

It's not even just because they live longer, but because they spent it all. Which is their right, but in a lot of cases, they did so simply out of selfishness. I'm not the only GenXer I know whose parents withheld money meant for college basically out of spite. When my mom died, she cut her three kids from her first marriage out of her will, and we discovered she'd also given up her retirement -- $150,000 -- to the company so no one could inherit it. She had told me it was going to get signed over to me, but I think she just said so out of cowardice.

Meanwhile, an uncle who was a Bank of America VP, is giving his nieces $50K each, $1M to a nephew, and donating the remainder of his $250M estate to universities to get his name on new buildings. That's literally what he told me in his last letter. "I want a building with my name on it."

Boomers are a bunch of selfish fucks. GenX is screwed because of them, but so are Millennials.

by Anonymousreply 11January 25, 2018 10:10 AM

I had to hit my mis-40s before I made a really livable wage and am socking away as much as I can, but I don’t think that I will ever retire unless forced to by health problems.

by Anonymousreply 12January 25, 2018 12:58 PM

The golden rule -- which I did not heed -- is to start saving early. Like as soon as you enter the workforce. Particularly if your employer has a 401k plan. If you could start saving just $100 a month in 401k at 22-24 and gradually increase as your means grow, it will make a big difference. With employer matching, compound interest and occasional, crazy stock gains like last year, you'd have $1m by the time you hit 50. And that would be true even if you'd have to skip a year of saving here and there.

by Anonymousreply 13January 25, 2018 2:48 PM

Gen X was the first group to be screwed by the elimination of pensions. Thanks to Reagan and Republicans 401k-scam that just fed billions to Wall St to justify elimination of pensions in the 80s. Even if we learned to suddenly become financial wizards, hard to have enough to guarantee any comfort in retirement - will always worry about outliving my savings. Have been saving for 20 years- made and lost some in the Wall St gambling casino- and will never have the comfort my parents had with their guaranteed pensions.

by Anonymousreply 14January 25, 2018 2:48 PM

The cost of a college education and the loss of blue collar jobs.

These are the things that guaranteed a quality job/career with good pay and good benefits.

by Anonymousreply 15January 25, 2018 2:55 PM

[quote]It doesn't help that Boomers refuse to retire and hand over the keys.

It's not a matter of choice. The sad truth is that a lot of Boomers can't afford to retire.

by Anonymousreply 16January 25, 2018 3:05 PM

[quote] I'm not the only GenXer I know whose parents withheld money meant for college basically out of spite.

Don't worry -- I'm a baby boomer and my parents did that to me. They didn't have a college education and they turned out fine (in their own minds) -- why should they spend their money on giving me something they didn't have? I'm nothing special. Did I [italic] think [/italic] I'm special? Because I am definitely NOT.

by Anonymousreply 17January 25, 2018 3:20 PM

R16, Boomers at least had more economic advantage and were in a better choice to spend (and budget) their earnings ahead of retirement.

Sure, not every boomer can afford to retire, but those who can (and should) aren't doing so. That they aren't retiring is just another future setback against Gen X and millennials.

by Anonymousreply 18January 25, 2018 3:24 PM

People really need to start being born to privilege or not at all. You just can't make a living nowadays. It is best to be born into wealth. Not everyone has the capabilities to be self-made like me and POTUS.

by Anonymousreply 19January 25, 2018 3:31 PM

R18, I don't think you're seeing the full picture. Boomers were raised in an era when companies took care of their employees -- it was not uncommon for people then to work their entire lives for General Motors or IBM or Johnson & Johnson. People raised in that era also believed that Social Security would help take care of much of their retirement needs. So Boomers weren't necessarily prepared for being laid off after having working for 20 years for a company, and then having to take a job at a much lower salary during their middle age, a time that should have been their peak-earning years. Also, the future of Social Security today is so uncertain. The advice now is that, to be on the safe side, it's better not to count on Social Security (and maybe even Medicare) in our financial planning. So this is why many Boomers are having to work longer than they had anticipated (or had wanted to).

by Anonymousreply 20January 25, 2018 3:42 PM

[quote] Gen X was the first group to be screwed by the elimination of pensions.

Wrong. It was boomers who were the first group screwed out of pensions. Pensions started being eliminated in the Greed is Good 1980s. Not only pensions, but entire companies were eliminated by hostile takeovers that sold off the parts of the companies for profit. I'm a boomer. Both my parents worked for the government, had pensions and had 3 separate forms of health care when they retired. I will have SS and Medicare -- nothing else.

So your attempt to blame boomers for things that are wrong today isn't right. Also, the assertion that "boomers had more economic advantage" may be true for upper class boomers. I wouldn't know, as I wasn't one of those. But it was not true for working class or female boomers. And working class female boomers ended up with almost nothing unless they got jobs with the local, state or federal govt. The mothers of boomers could stay home when boomers were kids because they were economically able to. Not so for boomers -- mom and dad both had to work to keep the bills paid. Most "Greatest Generation" males got a job when they came back from WWII and had job stability. They were loyal to their employers and their employers were loyal to them. That's what boomers thought they'd have, too. But in the 80s, companies started mass layoffs that continue to this day. A boomer might bounce around to 4 or 5 jobs and end up laid off at age 50. The media covered none of this. None. I can't tell you how many people I know who were let go in their 50s, never to get a job again. Not even at Target or at the local supermarket.

And from the statistics quoted in this article, fewer than half of boomers have pensions. I'm betting that it's even fewer than that. And they lost most of their 401Ks when the 1% robbed the banks in the early 2000s (and were never punished for their thievery).

The "Greatest Generation" started out in the depression. There was very nearly a leftist revolution, which is never covered in history books. FDR did what he did because the philosophies of socialism and communism were recruiting large numbers of hungry people. After WWII, the GG had the benefit of a booming postwar economy and the social safety net to keep them stable in their older years.

The 1980s put an end to all of that.

by Anonymousreply 21January 25, 2018 3:44 PM

Wow R11, I'm sorry to hear all of that. Why some parents (grandparents, aunts/uncles etc) don't have the foresight or heart to help ensure the stability of their descendants when they have the means, I'll never understand.

by Anonymousreply 22January 25, 2018 3:50 PM

R20, you took the words out of my mouth. Gen X was the first to truly doubt the safety net of social security and rightfully so. I had an uncle that was worth a couple of million. He had a monthly pension of $3500+, income from a two family house he owned, and returns on investments. He still took the max social security offered. His rationale was 'I paid for this'. No, you paid into it but what you are taking in benefits far exceeds what you paid into it , even with compounding interest/investing. And this was in the 90s!

I have no idea if I'm ready. Given genetics, I could die at 62 or live to 90. There's no inbetween.

by Anonymousreply 23January 25, 2018 3:52 PM

Social Security has sufficient funds to pay 75% of its proposed benefits forever. A simple fix would push that up to 100%. Yes, Republicans are trying to kill it but there's a reason that it's called "the third rail of politics."

by Anonymousreply 24January 25, 2018 4:00 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 25January 25, 2018 6:15 PM

I'm a boomer and retired several years early. Once I figured out that I would make more retired than working due to enormous deductions taken from my pay it was a no brainer.

by Anonymousreply 26January 25, 2018 6:23 PM

well, lucky you, R28. This isn't about you, is it? Oh wait, you did say you were a Boomer.

by Anonymousreply 27January 25, 2018 6:28 PM

This does not bode well for any of the future generations.

by Anonymousreply 28January 25, 2018 8:08 PM

bump

by Anonymousreply 29February 3, 2018 5:29 PM

Their time has passed. They missed their moment to grab the reins and take charge.

by Anonymousreply 30February 12, 2018 9:02 AM

Previous generation scrimped and saved to get what they have now.

Generation X have been indulged and haven't been trained to live within their means.

Generation X will fail because they're dupes of the Capitalist System which feeds them the myth that 'You Can Have It All!'.

by Anonymousreply 31February 12, 2018 9:13 AM

After reading all of the nasty things they had to say on the Baby Boomer thread, I could care less!

by Anonymousreply 32February 12, 2018 9:16 AM

It's going to be a whole lot higher than 37%.

R31 - [bold]YOU[/bold] designed and devised the "You Can Have It All" system of profit at any cost. Then [bold]YOU[/bold] marketed it, propped it up, lied about it, promoted it, hid the serious consequences which you always knew about, force fed it to others, defended it, supported it, vilified anyone who criticized it, stomped it down everyone's throats, shit all over anyone who wouldn't drink the Kool Aid and all of this got you to where you are now so you can giggle to yourself about how fortunate you are because you "worked" hard for it in employment conditions that no longer exist.

And now that you've got yours, just fuck everybody else right? As long as you've got yours...

That's clear - we get it. You're a vampire.

by Anonymousreply 33February 12, 2018 9:30 AM

To be over 40 and not have at least a fair amount of money saved towards retirement is their own fault.

by Anonymousreply 34February 12, 2018 9:31 AM

We were taught to save. We went through the 1970s recession. Nothing was handed to us, despite what they may claim.

Don't live beyond your means. Maintain good credit. This is Econ 101. They should know this.

by Anonymousreply 35February 12, 2018 9:35 AM

" Couldn't care less," R32.

by Anonymousreply 36February 12, 2018 10:04 AM

Well-off boomer here, looking to adopt.

by Anonymousreply 37February 12, 2018 5:46 PM

Another well-off Boomer here, also looking to adopt.

Oh wait.. I thought this was a Generation Z thread. Nevermind!

by Anonymousreply 38February 12, 2018 5:59 PM

Youngest sister's ex continuously spent every penny he could that both of them she made, on expensive furniture, clothing and collectibles. He "deserved pretty things" and buried both their credit scores. After divorcing him, she managed to snag a job with a 401k plan and saves everything she can.

Meanwhile, her shithead ex has alreadly declared bankruptcy and has made mooching his only occupation. Still tries to get my sis to buy shit for him, since she (and life) "owes" him, lol.

Both are Gen Xers. Some people are just shit with money but I don't know if I would agree it's a generational lack. Those people just will never make the correct decisions in regards to finances, and will screw up and blame others.

by Anonymousreply 39February 12, 2018 6:50 PM
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