Lena Horne was never attractive

I don't know her. Is Lena a shortened form of Maddalena'?

R2 She was one of the most popular Black Actress/Singers of the '30s and 40s. She opened the doors for women like Diana Ross.

What a lovely, utterly timeless snapshot. When was it taken?

^ I referred to OP's picture, btw.

I think this poor woman has a Kevin Bacon nose.

Black people thought she was. She was considered the symbol of "negro" beauty.

A bit about Lena Horne.

[quote]Black people thought she was. She was considered the symbol of "negro" beauty.

In Hollywood, it would take someone other than a black person to consider her beautiful, because black people were not calling the shots.

are u nuts?

not only one of the best singers ever, she was georgous !!!!!

Check out who is in the audience.

She was the Meghan Markle of her day.

R10 Who is in the audience?

Peter Lorre, Sylvia Sidney, Albert Schweitzer, Herbert Marshall, Mrs Calvin Coolidge, Mrs Patrick Campbell, Dore Schary and Beatrice Lillie?

White people who were also fans/admirers of Lena. All I am saying is that it took more than black people to consider Horne beautiful.

[quote]She was the Meghan Markle of her day.

No shade on Meghan, but there is no comparison, other than both women having a career in Hollywood.

OP, Thank you for the lovely image.

R6 She was a symbol of negro beauty in a time when Blaxk was considered the opposite of beautiful. You don't think her thin lips, beak nose, and light skin played a part in it? Bitch is ugly and I'm sure there were many better looking Black women that would have gone ignored because they weren't as light.

If a light skinned Black woman had to be a symbol of Black beauty for the time, it should be Dorethy

Dorothy came after Lena, and she was considered beautiful as well.

She was beautiful enough to be signed to MGM, the top glamour studio of the day.

I think OP is being...sarcastic? Or what?

[quote]I think OP is being...sarcastic? Or what?

I sensed a sarcastic vibe but who knows for sure but the OP.

R18 I'm dead serious. I don't understand why anyone would find her beautiful.

I like OP'S photo . Yes she was beautiful and charming unlike a lot of crude things foisted on us today.

Who do you consider beautiful now ,OP?

R21 She fucked married men and married her husband to help her career. Most of the women in the golden age of Hollywood were even worse. Nostalgia is a bitch

Answer the question, OP. Who do you think is beautiful?

R24 Countless women. Do you want me to choose someone of her phenotype or what?

Ruby Dee is Lena Horne's phenotype and more attractive

Dianne Carroll too. How could you look at her and think that weird beak is beautiful

I meant how could you look at Dianne and think Alina's beak is attractive.

What's less attractive still are bitter, jealous, closet misogynists with nothing positive to say.

I think she looks pretty.

OP 's writing about a phenotype. White supremacist alert.

And she's a lesbian!

[quote]OP 's writing about a phenotype. White supremacist alert.

I was sensing that.

What R29 said. Gay men critiquing women’s looks has always read misogynistic to me.

Lena was beautiful.

R30 I'm not even White. I was trying to remove bias by comparing her to women that have a similar look. They are tons of dark skinned women and White women that I would say are more attractive too.

She was stunning.

I still find it hilarious that she was ever ever considered "Black". she looks as white as I my own mother.

Lena was simply stunning. Her face was beautiful but her body was just okay. I saw Lena once when she toured in “The Lady And Her Music” and she was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen even though her bottom teeth were crooked. It didn’t matter. Dorothy Dandridge was exquisite too and her body was flawless. Facially she was perfect but she didn’t have Lena’s dimples or the deep set eyes that make the difference between a Garbo and a Dietrich. Ruby Dee was an attractive character actress. Diahann was beautiful and became more beautiful as she aged but in her prime not on the same level as Lena or Dorothy.

R38 According to the standards of your day but I don't think many young people would find Horne, Garbo, or Dietrich to be very attractive. Their beauty isn't timeless in my honest opinion. Vivian Leigh is timeless, Elizabeth Taylor, Dorothy, Ruby, etc.

R37 It doesn't matter how funny you find it, she was a negro and would have been treated as such unless she tried to pass. The one drop rule was powerful.

This is her dad.

I stood right next to her, during an intermission at Lincoln Center. You couldn’t be more wrong, OP. Even as an older woman, Horne was extraordinarily beautiful. She was literally “incandescent “ in person. I couldn’t keep from staring at her, but neither could anyone else. She had to have been aware of it; nonetheless, she carried on a relaxed conversation with her friends.

Lena Horne's mom(also a Black woman)

Lena Horne's paternal grandparents(both considered Black)

Lena Horne's maternal grandparents(both considered Black)

This confirms that Lena Horne was white.

R45 Her dad looks mixed to me. They might have all been darker in person than they look in the photos but Lena Horne was definitely mixed.

Her children look more Black than she did despite one of her husband's being mixed face like herself and her other husband being White. Genetics are funny

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This was before faces had to be pumped full of restalyn, nose chopped down, and lips pumped up to be considered beautiful ( as black and white stars do today.) Faces were judged on total harmony of features, and character. Lena looks beautiful, intelligent, sophisticated and glamourous. Dandridge was pretty and more cookie-cutter, which is probably why o.p. prefers her.

Are you nuts OP?

She was gorgeous...just ask lover Ava Gardner...

Was she the most beautiful woman ever? No. She was lovely and talented and worth more than you, nasty OP.

[quote]I still find it hilarious that she was ever ever considered "Black". she looks as white as I my own mother.

Then your grandma has some explaining to do.

Her african ancestry was obvious. In the US you were either white or black, and those two things were treated very differently. She was black, never would have been accepted by white society.

OP is a bitter ugly racist. Give her time and she'll show you what a homophobe she is too. We have already tried to help by pointing her to LSA where she can roam, foam at the mouth, and stir shit in peace amongst like minded cretins but she continues to chase her own tail, chew and fling her excrement at passersby here. She is frenzied and disoriented. Poor thing. If someone has a tranquilizer dart handy, it would be the kind thing to do.

Bobby Cannevale had a son and was married to her daughter Jenny Lumet.

It's nice when OP is blocked. Tidies up the thread.

[QUOTE] she was known as a colored woman

WTF is that supposed to mean? Like you think that was some special name just for her?

OP= racist troll.

Fuck off.

Her dad was very handsome.

R39 It's your feeling that if young people saw this woman across a room today, they would not find her attractive?

I suspect she would be snapped up by the biggest modeling agency in town.

(Though I agree Marlene Dietrich is more problematic. She was more about smoke and mirrors and sequins...and lighting.)

I don't wish to be rude but I think this woman has made some primitive kind of nasal surgery.

R56 Kill yourself

Did Lena prefer men or women?

'Peter Lorre, Sylvia Sidney, Albert Schweitzer, Herbert Marshall, Mrs Calvin Coolidge, Mrs Patrick Campbell, Dore Schary and Beatrice Lillie? '

Who the fuck are these people?

Is this a thread for queens over 80 only?

R62, she preferred trans people only.

Calm yourself R62!

This photo is from 80 years ago and Peter Lorre, Sylvia Sidney, Albert Schweitzer, Herbert Marshall, Mrs Calvin Coolidge, Mrs Patrick Campbell, Dore Schary and Beatrice Lillie went to cabaret stop hear the singers singing.

No need to wet yourself or use four letter words.

R64, I take it back, it's a thread for queens over 100 only!

Kramer always thought Jerry looked like Lena Horne.

The only "aesthetic" problem Lena had was her nostril show and drooping columella which, unfortunately, her rhinoplasty only accentuated.

Fortunately, her beautiful eyes, smile and general bone structure(and assiduous lighting) were enough to still make her very photogenic on film.

R62, go watch Justin Bieber and do some sexting.

Lena Horne has had Broadway you know....

Now OP is using the word "mixed"to describe a person.

Definite white supremacist.

Stop playing with him.

[QUOTE] Now OP is using the word "mixed"to describe a person.

OMG!!!!

I was not made aware that the word mixed was outlawed

Lena was a beautiful woman. She has a kind, lovely smile, as well.

Lena looks fug to me.

Please post a pic of yourself OP so I know whether or not to take you seriously.

While we wait for you to show us how beautiful you are, I have to say Lena is beautiful in your posted pic.

She was stunning, who in their right mind would state otherwise? OP blocked.

I'm also not aware that the word mixed has been outlawed.

Who has issued this decree?

Is it Chief Justice John Glover Roberts Jr?

I just read through this thread (I had put it on my watched list, sometime yesterday), and I sort of wish i hadn't. The US has produced real 'Stars'. For Americans to then denigrate its own stars, just deflates my heart. If an African-American woman with talent and beauty can't justify being celebrated, then what are our chances? Maybe you're not well-educated, but do you not realize that most African-American people have ancestry that is not fully African, but includes white, and often, American Indian? My ex's ancestry includes all three, and he's an incredibly handsome man. Lena Horne was a beautiful, talented, smart, ground-breaking lady.

[quote] Her african ancestry was obvious. In the US you were either white or black, and those two things were treated very differently. She was black, never would have been accepted by white society.

This whole discussion is ridiculous. Many people who looked as "African" as Horne passed as white for CENTURIES in the U.S. They are lurking in the family tree of many so-called white people today.

BTW, Lena Horne is a fantastic singer.

she was considered one of the great beautys of her time.

as well one of the most distinctive singers to ever grace the stage....

But OP is more beautiful AND a better singer.

I disagree

completely unremarkable

Who said the word "mixed" has been banned?

Personally, l'm opposed to banning words. Why? Let people use the words they want to. It is so telling. For example when people use the word "mixed" to describe a person. Very telling. Using "social justice warrior" as a pejorative is also very telling.

R85 WTF is telling about saying mixed

A bit of NUDE gossip:

A college friend of mine had gone to HS with Horne's daughter, and went backstage with her after one of Horne's Broadway performances. The lady changed for dinner while they all chatted, and my pal said the 65-year-old Horne still had the body of a teenager....and this was the assessment of a 20-year-old.

She was suitably amazed.