George Michael Saga

New? I just want to know what the Trojan Souls lost recordings are all about.

Thank you, it only took 8 tries to get the thread title correct.

The Glory Hole tapes.

About GM and his Swedish woman I only want to share a positive part of GM, to the ones that want to know more of the truth of his life, and possibly talk with others who know about it too, it is obvious we were a few in the Fadi thread who know, one name of the woman is already out there, and I don´t want to hurt anyone of them, it would be completely wrong of me not to respect their desition to keep it that way, so I won´t tell you her identity, she never done any harm to me ever and deserve to keep the respect of her privacy. I do not want to create any problems. If I find any of this in any papers I will sue the crap out of them, that is a promise.

I can tell you what I know about her, in broad terms, what she seems to be like, how she lives and so on, I can tell you I know it happened and I know GM was healthy at the time, I can tell why I think they would have been insanely perfect for each other in different circumstances, why I think it happened even with GM, I think it is pretty uncomplicated really. I have known about it since the pictures.

I don't understand why he so messed up his life after this. I mean if this is his child he shouldn't felt such a void in his life. He then knew that his life had a meaning, not only as an artist but as a human being. I feel more and more sorry for him. How much he struggled in his life...

R5 Sorry but what child? Are there any rumours that GM fathered a child????? (and sorry to ask but I just haven't read all the other previous 2947 GM threads...)

R5 Just read the end of part xii and then part xiii and you will know why we meet here now.

I think it is very sad he wasn't able to reverse his drug use, maybe his efforts in his last years were because of this. It is really sad if that's what he was fighting for and he lost, that would have made anyone give up. I hope he had them in his life, there must been some years that could been good, before the drugs took over, if he was predisposed to addiction and mental issues he might not been able to fight it how much he ever wanted to, especially with the crew he was carrying instead of support.

I'm sure if he knew he was in contact with them. Can't imagine he decided to do otherwise. What kind of woman is she? You wrote she was already married then.

This is all I know about her. My partner and I saw the pictures of GM and his woman in -97, he immediately recognized her, she is close to 10 years younger than GM, incredibly naturally beautiful, still is, the kind of classic style with the extra kick, kind of like GM around 97-04. She lives outside a, not very big, town in a smaller mansion with only meadows and forests around, I know only of one private road leading to the house so if GM wanted to go there it appears he would been completely safe from anybody to know about it, she also have big muscular black faced guarddogs of an English breed and atleast one of a nother very classic English breed that was found on the stage at GM 25 live tour, I know the breeds because we have 2 of the French version of that dog. On her FB it seems as she occasionally breeds some really good dogs, I could never have that powerful breed so I don´t know them but they look very good, but my partner says she always had dogs so I guess she knows a thing or two about it, the dogs look healthy, happy and spoiled. She always had black Mercedes Benz cars, the last I saw was an E stations wagon, she seems to like those, the son has a black S class, all of them always with tinted windows. You rarely see her, she seems to be a real home person, I don´t think she works, I think her family is everything to her. But she has some higher education I think, you would never suspect what she is by looking at her, about 5,2ft, and the rest, but the Rescue service and Firefighters have consulted or worked with her at times, she is a Sea rescuer, that I know of. Maybe GM would have been alive if she would been there, it is a lot of rescue and survival skills. She is or was a bloody good shoot too, my partners brother did attend a training very long time ago and saw it, he said she was scary good.

She has a big heart, she always been very kind that I know of, the type of person who would go the extra mile to help someone else without any real reason to do it, but she is also the kind of person you never step on, who won't ask you, she will tell you, very strong, clever and protective, and I can understand completely why she is like that.. She is also very funny, has a great sense of humor and as far as I know she is an amazing and wonderful humanbeing, who doesn´t let strangers close easily. She is the straight opposite to the starstriked bimbos GM usually was approached by, completely another level, she seemes to stand firmly on her own feets and I doubth she would care one bit about it or be affected in any way by him being a star, she seems clearly not to be the fan type, I doubth she ever seen a show, I never seen her at official crowded places, and I don´t think she is the type you ever find chatting at forums and stuff like we do, she has pages on social media but none in her name and she has a lot of friends but she don´t seems to be looking at it very often, it doesn´t happend a lot in it.

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Continued here: I think they would have made the perfect match during other circumstances, I am positive she would have been good for GM, unfortunately, it is not very hard to understand why they didn´t pursue that option, GM was gay and she was already married at the time, it must have been something very strong between them to make it happen, for what I know it is unlikely for any of them, but they did, and that makes me draw the conclusion it must have been very special. I also think this was all the person GM, not the star.

But the first thing that hits you when you meet her, except for her looks, as she, by the way, seemes to be completely unaware of having, is the kind of extreme charisma that surrounds her, she can never go unnotised even if she is hiding and stay completely quiet, I have no idear what it is, but it is strong and I think that is the reason why GM obviously reacted that strongly to her, even I feel it clearly, but my partner, he did swing a bit at both sides as younger, he considers himself as gay, he gets totally knocked by her and it is both strange and funny to see, but it makes me understand what happend with GM.

For the fact that I know some of what happend, my partners brother and his wife live in the same town as her, my partner grew up there, we go there at times and we are not that different in age, the wife worked at the clinic where she did a full panel of tests after it happend, and for a year to follow, all came back clear, that is why I know GM was clear too, the reason she stated to the doctor why she wanted all those tests made makes it obvious what happend, it was several unprotected times completed inside, I will not quote. About the possible son, I said I don´t know that as a fact, I don´t, but it has very much pointed in that direction, even without looking at him...I would think they figured out how to handle that a long time ago if it is the case, but it is very hard to deny his looks and the timing.

As far as I seen and heard, she is a really decent and kind person, but she does have a lot of mischievousness in the blue eyes, and that is the mirror to who we really are, right, I think she has a lot more to offer then meets the eyes of strangers, GM obviously got to find out, and HE made that choice because HE wanted to, so who is anyone to disrespect HIS CHOICE, we all know he made his own decision, I am happy for him.

She is still married to the same man.

Everything says they still had some things together, maybe she even tried to help him, since GM died she almost haven't been seen at all, except for a few times and for Christmas that they seem to really love, the son too! It seems like his death hit her hard.

I am incredibly happy he had this in his life, but I also think of how hard it must have been at the time for both of them. I hope they found a way to stay in each others lives, and I really think they did.

Very enlightening description. The way you describe her makes me think they were very similar characters. I wish for gm that they stayed in contact over the years, especially if the young man really is his son. And then of course I absolutely can understand that his death hit her hard. Personally I believe gm was very ill for a longer period and finally died at home "peacefully" as his manager wrote. I don't think it was hiv or an overdose. My guess is that he refused further emergency medicine, because he knew he would die. I'm just sorry that he wasn't able to get his things together earlier, but it might be true what you wrote about the wrong people he was with.

I think they were a perfect match, very much alike and I also believe she was good for him.

Actually, if you look at how she lives, the type of dogs and that she always has black windows on her cars could be a sign they did stay in each other's lives.

Why would someone be so personally invested in GM having a child and this “mystery woman” as some sort of pseudo-wife? Weird...

Woman, don't you ever wonder Where you'd be if I just walked on by? What's your name? Can I take your number? Darling come with me, I'm going to change your life

I can't see how George would have got together with someone who you are describing as intelligent, still married, private, homely, known etc. There must be far more to this than meets the eye or nothing at all. It all seems too odd. I don't recall this story at all and don't remember seeing any names thrown about on the Fadi posts either, I am not saying you are wrong, I just don't get it. Need something more concrete. Was she a model? If not...how would he have met her?

I am liking the link above to some of the lyrics in Understand and it does make sense of the privacy of the will. Hmm I wonder....

What name was thrown out there? Please don't make me go back literally through thousands up thousands of the Fadi Saga posts again LOL. It's anonymous after all, if it wasn't I would DM you!!

R18 Noone is personally invested about it, but there have been quite a few different people that have tried to put this topic on the agenda because we are some that like to know of the good parts of GM life as well, unfortunately it seems like some are afraid to see that part and only want to wallow in the tragic parts, possibly the same ones who hurt him in here while he was alive, jealousy?

R21 Ulrika

R19 How about the video at the beginning of Outside, he shows his thoughts at the time in LA, and what he thought about was a Swedish blonde, what a coincidence... in 1998! He must have had a laugh putting it right there on the nose without anyone knowing it, wonder what the real Swedish blonde thought...

Or maybe part of Amazing.. Still missing my baby I was stitched up by the hands of fate Said how you gonna make it on your own If luck is a lady? Maybe luck is a lady I was going down for the third time

And there is a lot more if you keep your eyes open.

Ulrika? I don't believe that for one minute. However, I have been racking my brains and I would guess there is a connection through modelling and Thierry Mugler? I have a name but not sure if to spout it.

R25 Ulrika is correct

R25 I know who you mean, its been up before and put down because it is not her, and she is not 5,2. I think the real one is way better looking too.

Ulrika lives in England and has more than one kind AND is far from private. Not her!

Ah yeah can't be a model because of the height so I was thinking Emma Wiklund. So I was barking up the wrong tree. Give me a clue. You know you want to really ;)

NO not that Ulrika in England. Yes I wish I could tell the full name and add a picture, but I simply can´t do that, I am wrestling my brain for a way to show her without any way to identify her, any suggestions?

Are you on FB? Can you not reveal who you are so I can PM you. I am harmless I promise LOL -

And I am not after your body (you are gay I am female) I am just an incredibly curious huge GM fan that knows a lot, but clearly not everything. I have a hunger to learn the bits I don't know, of course I will get slated for that remark, but I don't care. I only want to know for my own benefit. I won't gain anything from it other than putting this annoying mystery to bed for me.

You realize all the weirdos in here would know too. And my partner would be revealed and where he come from... Do you have an email you can give me?

Give me yours lol, mine contains my name ;) or another way around this.

Are you in the The Datalounge Facebook Group, Seriously group? I am.

Will try to come up with something, I don't want to eighter expose her or leave you hanging.

You're a nice guy, you could find me in the above group....maybe.

You are all insane and this is fan fiction. Get a fucking life. George was as gay as tree full of parrots. He didn't have a love child with this fictional person. Get a hold of yourselves!

"You need a lover And I am just a friend .."

Sp this Swedish Blonde lives in Switzerland and this is where they met and had their affair in the Summer of 1997 ?

R39 No, I live in Switzerland, she lives in Sweden.

^How and where did they meet?

1997- The year his mum died and a year into his relationship with Kenny. Can't see it. He was loved up with Kenny until the second year (1998) and that's when he admitted his eye started to wander. This does not add up at all. I only ever read what is said on the DL, never normally get drawn into truths or false hoods, but now look at me.

He met Kenny 1996, wandering eye started 1998.

How do you know that?

R36 FB Smith John, Switzerland

Unusual name.....NOT! ;) Needle in haystack comes to mind.

Needle in haystack indeed ! Just post the link to your FB Page & be done with it ! Personally think this story is fiction. Why would George Michael cover up an alleged affair ? He met Botox man ie KG year b4 & in his own words was loved up & hadn’t slept with a woman 4 years !

I don´t get it, you think everything in here is crap and bs, including my name, what are you doing in here?? You want to see but say it is only bs that you are not interested in, so tell me, what exactly makes you think you are capable to decide that for anybody but yourself, did you live in GM pants? Give me your FB and be done with it, then you don´t have to be, not interested, in here if you don't want to know this part of GM.

You are the 1 that wants 2 share your juicy details, therefore you should post the link to your FB for those that are interested. & NO I didn’t live in GM pants, however, nothing would have given me greater pleasure.

R49 That was pretty funny! But it also exposed where the shoe doesn't fit you with this thing and why you have such hard time to realize this happened and why you hate the woman before even know anything about her, GM wanted her, not you, she got him, you didn't, this is exactly why I never will expose her identity. About your FB I could easily say that you are the one who wants to see so you give me yours, I try to help because you can´t find mine.

So she is 5'2 Swedish model?

Frankly as a long term GM fan this story does not ring true to me at all. This was months after George's mother died. He was in no state to have an affair with anybody. It was too early into his relationship with Kenny. Also I dont think George would have slept with a married woman, frankly with any woman at that stage of his life.

He was not that mobile and he hung around London, St Tropez and LA. With the amount of attention he had in those days there is no way his visits to distant Sweden would have gone unnoticed. In many interviews he said early on I realized children were not on the cards for me without any hesitation. There is no way if this woman had his son, he would have not had that guy in his life.

The poster here who says who knows something very secret, if you believe it I am not calling you a liar. It just does not ring true for me and I have stated why. So dont abuse me. Be civil and argue with the people who disagree with you

^The poster here who says he knows something

Fan Fiction.

Fucking lies. Holy shit

Why are the Fadi group members in this discussion. You guys told them to start their own discussion and they did this. Let this people have their fun of stories about GM and the Fadi group can have their fun board. At the end of the day none of us know what really happen in George's life.

Beside in an interview 'Up Close and Personal" were GM mentions that only two people really knows my life and that's David and my sister. He then went on to say that neither will never write a book about. So we may not never know, therefore stick to what George wants to be remember for and that's his music.

Ps I am not a Lovely just like the music don't care about his life.

" Just post the link to your FB Page & be done with it ! "

Well duh me! I did, there were SIXTY guys that came up on that search!!!! I checked them all out for a clue and came up with zero . PM'd about five, randomly.

R56 The Fadi's are here because they lost the plot in their own thread and are bitching about each other now. And they have nothing new to talk or rant about. Insulting GM for his addictions got boring obvsly, so the went over here to read and disturb. No need to consider them.

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I told you guys what I know, it is true, why the heck would I or any one of the several in the other thread that's been pushed off for telling about this, be lying, that's crazy. I have no intention to tell you what opinion you should have, everyone is free to decide for themselves, do they want to know more facts about GM or do they want to miss out on this part of him, it´s entirely your choice, I can only tell you what I know.

To the FB page, not even FB liked the name so I am working on a solution, let you know.

There are several times he said way more then you examples if you need it and not simply pick the parts you like and you know it. About 97 he said he was confused and saw a self-destructing pattern in his behavior, can´t believe it is so hard to realize he was human, humans may slip once without it being so complicated, and why would he tell the world about it?

R58 Spot on! Don´t let them turn this thread to what they created in the other when they destroyed it. We all know they have nothing valuable to contribute. They don´t care one bit about GM it is all about themselves.

Some interviews.

Another one.

Anyone know a place, no papers! Where you can put a picture in the comments section without subscribing or join in any way, tried Youtube but I can write but not get a picture in, anyone knows how to do that, or perhaps in here?

Those two interviews are among my favorite. The ones done for the gay mags were always the most honest and enthusiastic. If only there had been more.....

R64 Agree

“I think that one of the things that is so difficult in the modern world [is] to actually accept is that sexuality is a really, really blurry thing,” GM said in a 1996 interview, according to the BBC.

One more

George Michaels woman

Wow, I’m not disbelieving you. As stated by you her son is visibly like & has the height of George coupled with the fact she was married at the time surely her husband knows ?

R69 They must have found a way to make this work, all of them somehow, they seem to be happy together and very close.

Random woman who might have took a picture with george.

R69 When I think about it there is no way they can´t know, if that is the case and the family really is one woman and two men with each son looking exactly like their fathers, they have to have found a way to get it all together because it seems to work perfectly.

How’s about posting a photo of the son in question?

R73 I don´t think I have any, but I will look if I can find some, but I am not sure it is possible.

My partner heard her call him "Gorgeous", I guess that would be a matching nickname.

Now I told you everything I can and know about this. But there is still much more positives from GM life to enjoy, his music for one.

Ha, the media will go into a frenzy if they get wind of this !

Won't you better delete the picture? Otherwise it would be possible to indentify her, I'm afraid. This story could explode very soon... But many many thanks for sharing what you know.

Thank you, you´re welcome. Happy to know GM had some positive in his life!

If I didn’t know better this has “Andros Georgiou” written all over it. He sold George our during his lifetime and continues to do s.

I doubt the press would touch any of this with a ten foot pole, mainly because it doesn't fit their narrative of GM as a man.

Agree, not sure the press would be interested. Am I the only one who doesn't recognise her or know who she is?

No, R82 I don't know who she is, too.

No idea who she is!

What a bullshit fan fiction! You are totally insane to even believe the tiniest part of those stories.

Straightwashing gay men has happened here before on other DL fan threads, like with Richard Armitage, Lee Pace and Luke Evans. And now GM.... Gosh! Get a life!!!

R85 This isn't straightwashing. We all know he was gay. Are you an alcoholic just because you got totally plastered once or twice in your life? Why are some of you thinking so one-dimensional? Can't get it.

A random woman who might be one of the lovelies.

She is Gorgeous! I am happy for GM, with her, I sure understand why he slipped!

You are happy for George as a gay man. He slipped when. Most of you do not know this mystery woman. She could be a random person whose picture is been used to make a fabricated point.

R89 Surely not as fabricated as the stories Andros is announcing at present. And you basically believe him... So why did you come over here when you think it's 'loony talk'?

George Michael was gay. He said he was gay. He said he was in love with a man more than once.

In his own words, he was a gay man. Why can you not accept that? Why must you live in this fantasy world where he was secretly in love with a beautiful, charismatic, irresistible woman? He was not. He was in love with Anselmo. Then Kenny. Then Fadi. He was not in love with a Swedish (or any other) woman. He would have paraded her around the world just like he did his men, especially if he had a kid.

This Special Education Moment was brought to You by Reality. Please Return to your bizarre delusion, already in progress.

R91 LOL!! Wait for the abuse to rain down on you because you crashed into their fantasy world. GM turned down Linda, Princess Di and on and on and on... But he would have an affair with a mysterious Swedish blonde and have unprotected sex and have a child with her. A guy who said he never wanted children.

R92 Ever heard the expression -Smokescreen- ? And look at you, it worked. You really think he told you everything and his most private? Come on.

We have seen of the reactions from some of you who lack enough life experiences to understand a slip, without it being more than just that, you immediately create a shitstorm of labels, gay, bi and other prejudices and you suffer a lack of compassion that is beyond stupid as well as not being capable to be happy for anybody else, not even somebody like GM who really needed some good in his life at that time, no matter in what package that might have been. The important should be that it was something good. Not very hard to understand why he decided to keep this from your desire to rip everything good to pieces. I can´t understand what makes you believe, all of a sudden and after all your nice talk about "nothing he said was true" in previous threads, that he would ever tell you anymore then he wanted and only about what he wanted, for GM his privacy was always important, his private was very private and this will be one of those things he didn´t want you to have, hard to accept? You are not that important, and you confirmed all his believes that you could not handle it.

^ Ever heard of Delusional. You are. What the hell? It was GMs choice to have any relationship with anybody he wanted - man or woman. Why would anybody rip him if he had a relationship with a woman and had a child. Dont you get the point? There was absolutely no need for him to coverup such a relationship. That is why we find your secret relationship story hard to believe.

I only told what I know, what you understand or believe or not is possibly your loss and not of any interest to me.

You are making shit up. It interesting how George attracted the mentally damaged as fans. You are seriously psychotic and need a shrink because you are mentally disturbed and seriously delusional.

So George told you his "secrets". When did he confine in you about his "secrets" . You seem to know a lot about him than he does about himself.

Girls, if you´re only here to kick on me, don´t bother. You will only hurt yourself, and maybe even break a nail.

I am just going to say this. When the truth finally comes out about GM's life many will be either happy or mad. With that said let's just stick to the music, because George wanted to be remember for that. He did not want to be remember for the scandals and what if.

^Yeah right. And we need you tell us that. We dont know anything including secret Swedish Blonde GFs

They have kept it successfully out of the public eye when GM was alive, but now the situation obviously changed a bit and some starts telling what they know to fill the gapes for the ones who don´t, it took about 10 seconds for another DL´r to identify her by name when it came up, not to mention the others who have tried to open the subject on DL before, it is actually quite a few who have interest in the good parts of GM life, if it is that easy for anybody who knows to recognise her from only the description, then it can´t be that wrong, can it. It takes about another 10 seconds to find it elsewhere on the web too. But I agree, his music is what we should be focusing on, like I said upthread^. A song of his came to mind "Do you really want to know"

[101] Claim down where did I mention a Swedish Blonde. My post just say some people will have different reactions when the truth comes out once and for all. The fans of GM should focus on the music, what George wanted us to do

R 102 you keep repeating yourself talking in circles. Which shows your delusional story is all bullshit, how long can you keep saying the same thing over and over again. The fact that you are so defensive about your lie shows that it is infact a lie. No so called "truth" is coming out because it all in your deluded mind.

R104 You are right why do I hope for people like you not to be more or less brain-dead, I guess I don´t want to recognize the fact that there are people as stupid as you, who not only miss out on what is going on, but is also too stupid to realize their own idiocy. You talk a lot about mental illnesses, I guess it is from own experiences and I am not as low that I put anyone down for an illness, did you go for GM in those terms also? But it is a shame you are not capable to at least see that the best thing you could do is to shut up, that way you won't show of you being a total embarrassment. Thanks for pointing that out to me and everybody else, but it was obvious all along. You have to respect that people like to know different things and have different opinions and the only right opinions are their own, not yours, hard to accept but something you have to live with. Now go get help from a professional to deal with it.

Some people that occasionally drop into this thread should really read this. Some of us might like to have a nice grown conversation at times, that is why we started inhere in the first place. Enjoy a nice conversation instead and join in if you like, if not, leave, it is your choice if you are interested. A bit of bitching is one thing but the borderline trolling is tedious and only annoying for everyone else. Try to have some Fun.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R 105 use your meds and stop projecting your mental defects on to others. By the way stop repeating the same comment over and over again idiot. Stay away from fictional writing it is not your strong suit.

[108] who hurt you boo. You act like those Kenny fans who get upset at the thought of GM loving someone else. I really don't care much for this however, your reaction concerns me.

The truth of the matter is we will never now the full story of GM. I believe that's the way HE wanted it, that is why he said focus on my music, not the stories people makeup about me.

The fact that you use the word boo shows your limited intelligence LSA fangurl. Just because some people do not share your view does not make them Kenny fan. You should worry less about me and more about yourself. I am the one interesting in reading fiction about gm life. I know you are here defending the Swedish loon.

R110 And WHAT the heck are you doing in here?? Everything is shit and no one is sane according to you, well realize already no one wants you in here, there is nothing for you, you are only making a total as of yourself. MOVE ON.

R108 That goes very much, perhaps even more, for you as well. ^

There are persons who have been with GM in the early 90´s who says he then wanted to basically fuck them the same way as a woman, not where but how he did it, sucking both ways and only him fucking them, really on top of them, all the basics and yes that too, that´s not a typical gay desire is it, I think it´s more ambivalent? I don´t want to go into GM sex life I respect him and think that is his to keep, I only want to ask about the way in general, what do you think? I got curious.

Ignore R113, It became all wrong when it was an example involving GM, that was not the intention, it was all about the way, not GM, Ignore it, thank you.

[110] you need to get laid or take a break from this board. You are becoming unhinge.

George Michael was not exactly shy about sexuality. I'm sure if at any point he had met a woman he loved he would have had no problem being open about it.

This thread seems to be full of people whose first language is definitely not English.

Interesting education for the ones of you who obviously missed out on a few things

And for the ones of you who don´t understand reading and prefer books with pictures here is one for you too.

I think the gay level of GMs life choices developed over the years, I said of his life choices not necessarily his actual gay level, starting as a 3 when he was young, very soon in the 80´s progressing to 4, in the 90´s a strong 5 and around the millennium he had developed into almost a 6, I think he lived entirely like a 6 after that, but he still was physically attracted to women, according to himself, even if he didn´t act on it anymore, that´s the almost 6.

If you look at him it is almost the opposite direction.

He always said his sexuality wasn't cut and dry, I agree.

I think a lot of us could identify with a not so cut and dry sexuality....for some people it maybe solid....but for a lot of us it can be fluid.

R123 Agree, nice to hear.

Look what came up, others who know and remember are obviously talking. Perhaps there are more people who think it´s time for some good things in GM life to take the focus of the bad things people seem to thrive off.

Got it from my brother in law, but if they get it I guess everyone does.

This thread has turned into fraus lovelies arguing among each other about how gay was a prominent gay man.

R125 Pinterest simply picked it up from the chatter here. You make it sound as it has been there since decade ago

I have no idéar. I also have no idéar what some of you are so very afraid of? To find out he had something good happening in his life? That he had some good persons in it? That he was human? That he didn´t share everything with you? To me, all of that is positive things I hope he had and did.

I don't know why either[129]. I just get the feeling some of these poster want to believe that GM had and lead a very depressing live. When in fact during his early {Wham!} years you can see that he was a happy guy even in his interviews.

However, during the latter part of Faith you see he began to spiral a little, but he gave his fans good music. Its not until 1998 is when George check out of reality and sadly surround himself with worthless individuals. He even need writer to help him write his songs on the Patience album. That song American Angle had four writers on it. This is the man that use to write his music on his own, so yeah I hope he did have some happiness around that time because in the last eighteen years of his life seems kind of sad.

The list of writers for American Angle: Song writers MICHAEL, GEORGE/JACKMAN, JAMES PHILIP/FLYNN, NIALL PATRICK/CUSHNAN, RUADHRI FELIX. However with Please Send Me Someone (Anselmo's Song)" George is listed as the only writer. That is very telling of who George really love, I mean didn't Shirlie Kemp say at the BBC awards that George wrote from the heart.

The only person George really loved was Anselmo to the extent he never got over losing him. So most of you lovelies need to stop because you all are basically calling gm a liar and questioning his truth as a gay man. It is very insulting to his legacy and quiet homophobic. If most of you are truly fans this fictional rewriting of his sexuality should never been encouraged here.

Well I think all of GM fans have to recognize the fact that George use to sleep with women/men during his youth. Some of his gay fans refuses to see/believe this.

I as a GM fan (not a lovely) them some crazy people. Anyway I can except the fact that at one point George was with women and may have fallen in love (what he believe love was at that time). However, when Anselmo enter into his life he discover what real love was. He never got over Anselmo .

Some of these individuals have to realize that George live his life like he wanted to. Not the way some fans and tabloids want to print his life out as their own narrative. I was a fan of the music, not the tabloid, his hanger-ons or loser boyfriends. I do believe that Anelmo truly love Georgios Kyriacos Panayiotou, while the other lovers/boyfriends love the George Michael image and fame.

R131 I didn´t put pure evil shit on him while he was alive like many DLs did, then he was said to be a disgrace to the gay community, not an advocate and most likely not even really gay, and completely untrustworthy, DLs said not to trust anything he said, even made him a joke, and so on, now you hold on frantically to the opposite of your own previous loud judgements. Nobody inhere said anything else in this matter then that he was gay, but he was also human, and human slip occasionally. Like said above ^he did what he wanted, not what you wanted. It´s time you stop hiding behind his sexual preferences, that´s not what this is about. We haven't put him down by digging around in the tabloid shit like you do over and over with an obsession to take down anybody who achieved something you never will, of course you don´t want to see anything good about him, you say you care so much, well not about GM that's for sure, jealousy is embarrassing as well as turning the coat after the wind like your opinions. Be happy for him having something good instead of obsessing about any fuck details, we will never know what made it happen, but it did, you like it or not. We are not the ones insulting his legacy or being homophobic.

We respect GM and his choices. Not fiction them to fit our own desires, it is about GM not you or me.

you make it about you not gm by repeating lies to suit your view of him. Why can't you just accept he was a proud gay man and leave it at that instead of looking for others who share this fantasy of a bi George.

133 just shut the fuck off. You keep stating your point in circles repeating the same thing over and over again like a mentally deranged lunatic. You make no sense but troll for troll sake. If you cared about promoting the positive in gm life you should not have made up bullcrap about his supposed alternative sexuality.

R136 Do you have a medical issue that makes it impossible for you to comprehend what you read? That would be the only alternative explanation for you being a special kind of stupid. And what are you doing in here if you neither understand or like it? Try to at least understand, the truth is the truth no matter if you like it or not, and won't change because of it eighter. You can do as you like to, but it will never make me disrespect GM or enjoy the fact he had good parts in his life any less, I will not close my eye to the truth because I don´t dare to see it. You don´t have to be in here at all you know, there are other places, with more pictures too that might be better for you.

We do have some nice and constructive conversations in here when you´re not around, why not join if you have something interesting to say instead.

R130 The only reason there were additional writing credits for American Angel (not Angle) is because the three people credited significantly helped with the musical arrangement of the song. Anyone who contributes an idea, or anyone whose material is sampled--such as the sample of Forget Me Nots in Fastlove--gets a writing credit. The lyrics are the main point of that song, and they were obviously written solely by George.

And yeah, his sexuality was not simple, that's for sure.

No you have that those rose colored glasses off and realize that Kenny did not but bring George harm. If they loved each other so much then why was George always out cruising and getting got by the press. Is it because lovely Kenny called and inform the press of George whereabouts? Why is it during the Kenny years George was being known for his scandals and not his music? If a person love you they would try to help, not assist in their destruction all the while playing the poor boyfriend role. George need writer to help him with his song writing he said it himself that he develop writer's block. But you Kenny stans what to build this damage relationship as a love story. It was not from the stories that were printed and the mere fact that GM and Kenny were not together as a couple when he was sentence to jail. However the two of them put on an act as if they were still a couple. Which mean both George and Kenny are both liars when it came to them being this in love couple. One day the truth will come out and these fans will be in a great upset because everything they thought they knew was not true. Just look how the MJ fans are upset about QJ saying he stole music.

R 137 you are nuts. I notice celebs attract two types of fans. The one who have no hold of reality completely delusional and the other well adjusted human beings. You fall into the first due to your lack of gasp at reality and your need to make shit up.

KG loved the lavish lifestyle & media attention it brought him being known as GM “partner”......I don’t buy his BS he wasn’t aware of GM & his music when they met....KG & GM were of the same cloth.....both in denial !

[142] I remember reading this and thinking ids he for real with that statement.

Some have the wrong head up the as. The labelers inhere who have been arguing their heads off about GM Gay/Bi label to cover up the real matter, obviously they have no idea about GM, but look at this thread, they appear to have no idea about Gay/Bi/Straight at all.

^why dont you explain this to those of us who are slow and how it relates to GM?

I had a look around and I found about GM and his woman in a lot of places. I was curious because I recently got to know that one of the biggest evening news in Sweden had been lurking around the town where she lives, trying to find her location, unfortunately, I have no information if they succeeded, but I doubt very much she would talk to them anyway, but it is pretty obvious the issue is still boiling, the one who got her to talk would sell above the roof.

It is interesting how he attracted nuts as fans. Well most celebs attract delusional people.

Update from my Swedish brother in law. He heard that she was apparently seen a few days ago outside a hotel talking to a man, the man wasn´t recognised, but they were talking in English, unfortunately, it wasn't possible to overhear what the conversation was about, would have been interesting to know, but I would say this could be far from over.

I put: George Michael Swedish woman on a search on Pinterest and on Google to see if it was still there, it sure was. It is unbelievable they still manage to keep it out of the papers, they must be frantic to get it, imagine the publicity and sell that paper would get.

Young GM

Suddenly when you don´t think you will find it, there it is.

More young GM

Pinterest

I am sure if I type George Michael with a fat woman in Pinterest it will come up. It just shows how ridiculous most of you deranged lovelies are. Like that old saying "it is not a lie if you believe it, even though it is all bullshit". Do most of you idiots know there are people who look alike out there and they are not related to each other. I am sure there is a little girl out there who look a little more like me that does not mean I am her father. It shows how ridiculous rumors spread that a bunch of gullible fraus will believe it.

R154 What exactly do you KNOW? NOT a shit! That´s embarrassingly obvious, because a lot of people in here does. I guess the train left without you...

R 155. What the fuck are you stating. Other posters have used their medication, you on the Other hand refused to use yours. That is why the delusion is thick with you.

R154 R156 and so on, you are so fascinated by this thread and simply can´t stay away, can you? Why keep trying to destroy it for everybody else with your negativities, is it really that hard to be happy about something positive for GM? Why do you hate him so much? You do not have to answer.

But you do cause concern for your mental status and your ability to comprehend what is the reality, like your own words ^ : - I am sure there is a little girl out there who look a little more like me that does not mean I am her father. - ... That doesn´t qualify you to add any valuable contribution to the subject in this thread, guess you know that and that´s is why every one of your comments is plain stupid and completely lack any knowledge. I know this for sure because I do know a few things about the topic in this thread in case you missed out on that too.

So this Swedish woman has Facebook and Twitter, although doesn't use her own name and the photo (above) gets posted of her son. How random. She's supposedly kept a huge secret for all these years and then goes and plants a photo on social media. Any chance her Twitter has been hacked by someone trying to wind the situation up?

I don't even know why I care other than I let little things like this bother me as I feel I always want to get to the bottom of it. I can't see this fitting in with George's time line of life. If this is a sicko posting shite, then it is terribly sad.

R 158 You know not everything is conspiracy or evil? I am sure most has both FB and Twitter accounts? Most have posted pictures on it? What I think is telling about those accounts is the lack of personal photos or anything personal for that matter, but I guess that is because of the same reason I think she hasn´t used her name, not very hard to figure that one out. No this is not one of the crazies that's for sure, she is the one who kept it silent and I am pretty sure she would have wanted it to stay that way.

I believe the problem is all we don´t know, and it is not our thing but that would give the whole picture, no use trying to add that together without really knowing enough to do it, that only create wrongly assumptions and overreactions like this, as if it would make a difference whether she has an FB or Twitter account, like the majority of the rest of us, unless you simply want to put her down, for anything and that´s why you are so bothered?

It is very easy to recognize the jealous ones who can't stand the fact of her and GM, and hate her for it, sad, why not respect the man's own decision if you care for him instead? I don´t understand peoples desire to hurt others all the time, it is not like she cheated with your man or your anything. Or like she has done anything, except for not telling or showing you one single thing for all this time really.

My point is, she has kept this huge secret and could easily continue to do so, but on her Twitter which she rarely uses, has posted a photo of a young looking male who, for anyone who has been following this sag,a will assume is her son. Right? It's not hard to figure out her name once you find her identity on Facebook. That part drove me nuts for ages.

I agree that was incredibly bad timing, but that happens, especially if she is not on social media much as it seems, she might actually not know? I have tried for months to find a picture of him and she never shows him. Or anyone of her family by the way. I was greatly surprised, but I would not have known that is was him if I didn't already know, she didn't write anything. Maybee it was for someone else? I really have no idéar, but I am sure to what I know about her, and she would never have put it there intentionally to draw attention to it, how would she know anyone would know who it was? And if that would have been the purpose, wouldn´t it be wiser to use the FB with tons of friends instead of a silent Twitter account? I don´t think it is more than a really bad timing, this has been going on for ages now, doubt it is connected.

To keep this out of the public eye for so long as they have, there has to have been professionals involved, and I would think she still has that same protection and are no way near alone in handling this, and I am sure she will handle it, because she never seemed to be the kind that goes into hiding. I guess time will tell.

R 157 you are nut and make no sense. You did not try to challenge my comment instead you resort to psychobable nonsense. You need to stop explaining yourself in circles. George deserve better fans than nutcases like you who spread rumors about him.

R10 how would GM have met this woman, a chance meeting? I obviously don't claim to know everything about him, but was he in Sweden during 1997/98? Did you imply she was a model at 5'2"?

He really does look like him.

R165 He REALLY does! I agree.

If you zoom in and look at the brows, the lips, the forehead. It's a bit spooky actually how much they Look alike. Why post this picture on Twitter? Is that really her account? Is anyone trying to expose them?

FF this frau stan bullshit. Why does DL always attract these lunatic women??

168 why are you here? Fat, miserable and bored?

And R168 the Pointless is back. Just ignore the mug.

It is obvious R168 hasn´t seen it, and it is very doubtful this person even know who GM was.

It is VERY much like George. Nobody considered Photoshop?

If this is Photoshop then it must be the work of some genius. There are no signs this picture was altered. That's GM's Face but not created with some of his pictures. Is this really her Twitter Account? She's following Austin, GM, GossMichael foundation and Fawaz. Looks like someone created a fake account, pretending to be her. But if that is really her account then it makes it all so strange.

If this is a hoax then it's really well done, cause it's been kept so hidden. But then it's creator must be a really deranged person to put so much energy into it. It's rather subtle for a hoax.

Maybe it´s all very simple... It is true! Has anybody tried to talk to her?

[151] It not just the mouth, eyebrows, but he has George's stare which is scary at best.

George and that young man have -identical- lips. And they're pretty unusual at that.

Look at the buckle in his left eyebrow... He has the same serious and slightly sad expression. But finally I'm not sure... Maybe we just wish to see similarities...

You are not wrong, I have seen him up close and it is even more obvious in reality. I would be thrilled if such big part of GM is very much alive, and it is, to say the very least, very possible that´s the case. I am incredibly happy for GM that he had this love in his life, even if they didn´t share it with the public, the only important thing is that they had it, and it feels very good to know they did, that the relationship is real we know with certainty. GM got to have and feel that love and be loved like that, I think this should be a very positive thing to anybody who truly cared for him.

That is one way to clearly see who cared about GM and who didn´t, the ones fighting not to see the truth, that doesn´t want it to be there, even when it is this good to GM in all aspects, do not care for GM but for themselves and their own very selfish feelings about him. Jealousy and denial are two traits often seen together.

What love? He possibly had a fling and got a woman pregnant and she kept the baby. What makes you think it was love?

R180 That is one way to look at it, he hit the bullseye and moved on, but to me, that doesn't add up with the impression I got of any of them, and according to what I heard, it is a lot more to this, and love is definitely one of those things, no doubt. I really think he got both the physical and emotional wonders with her. To me, that is a good thing and I both hope and believe he did. That´s why I think it was love involved.

R181 I would love to know who you are. I have toyed with the idea of you being the supposed woman whose Facebook and Twitter I have seen and looked through, as opposed to a Swiss guy with a partner from Sweden, whose brother lives in the same village or whatever. I can't quite get what your motive is either way.

R182 I am who I said and I think that will have to do, we all have the right to be anonymous here, my only reason is to share the feeling I got when I learned about this, from a very reliable well-informed source, it brought me comfort to know GM was happy and loved, I had enough of all shit talk about him, al negativities people suddenly loved to wallow in when he was no longer here to defend himself, like it was all misery, and GM was an complete xxx up. I thought the ones that really cared for GM, not only following the wind, might feel a bit better if they got to know what I knew, that he had something good to him in his life, it was nothing new, it has been around for ages. Even in here it has been up over and over by many others for a very long time. I only hesitated to share what I got confirmed because I do not want to put anybody out there, but because I know for sure it happened, and it was already known, I decided to share, with you, hopefully some of the comforts it brought me, as opposed to all the bad talk that seems to be ok?

And it is not my brother, it is my partner's brother who lives there.

But really, don´t focus on me, I am not what is interesting.

OMG He really looks like George but the photo looks a bit photoshopped or fake

R186 Seriously...

Most things in the world really isn´t a conspiracy, a lie or fake. I have seen them up close, this is all genuine. It is nothing more to any of it than the way it is, these things happen, like it or not the truth will still be that it did.

This mysterious Swedish woman had her identity and her son's identity protected for two decades. According to this poster who knows all the secrets about this relationship, the family is trying to keep GMs Will secret so that this woman and her son's identity will be preserved. But suddenly her photo will appear here and from here somebody will pick this up and post on Pinterest. On Feb 2017 the woman will create a Twitter account and post the son's picture and start following all GM related accounts. A FB account will also appear. She and GM and the family went to CIA-lengths to bury her identity it seems. Now suddenly she will create social media accounts and post pictures of herself and her son.

Somebody with a lot of time on their hands is trying to lead GM fans up the garden path. This person will be found out sooner or later. So until them continue with your games and fictitious story

R189 I haven´t shared any details of their relationship. I never saw anyone actually know about the will. They must have been protected yes, but that is nothing unusual for GM to do with whom he really cared the most for. The photo was taken from the FB account that has been there for years. Yes, the Twitter account has been there for more than a year, locked for a long time. We established it was bad timing, but don´t you post pictures? Regard that she might not even know about this, I doubt she is in here or in any other of the social media who talk about it. Ever thought of the possibility she follows those specific ones on a Twitter account she might not think anyone knows about because she cares for GM and wants to make sure nothing bad happens to GM legacy with all that he was surrounded by, she does have a personal interest in that too. The picture of herself has been used as the picture on her accounts all the time, hardly everything she does is about GM, she seems to have a life, even if she never post any personal things on the FB account, that seems to be more open regarding the number of friends she has, and the picture of the son has never been there. I suggest you read this thread again, you seem to have missed out on more than some of it and you make a lot of faulty assumptions, it even addresses people like you... Give up the games and fiction, this is real life. If you for some personal reasons want to live in denial and keep your eyes closed to it, let your mouth/fingers follow the lead. There are a lot of people who rather know the truth that GM had this good thing in his life, even if it hurt them, they care enough for GM to put that aside and be happy for him. I take my hat off for those, that is the real ones. The tiny smallminded ones who act differently and use conspiracy, games and other bull to cover up their own incapacity to embrace and respect the choices of another human being, in this GMs choices, because it doesn´t fit into their own little boring world, those are the pathetic ones that put energy into trying to change the facts of reality instead of putting that energy into accepting what can not be changed, what never was their decisions to make ever. To me you can stay in your little empty denial, it is of no importance or interest to me, but don´t disrespect GM choices that he made for his life, I think a lot of us respect and will protect him, that is my only reason to take time to even answer you R189, for GM.

190, your story is pretty consistent, yet it is certainly the most unusual thing that I ever came across in regard to GM. I don't have a Facebook account and I am not in any forum or group, so I know little of the rumours. The only things, as an avarage fan, that I know are the things George stated in his interviews over the years. It's hard to tell what George did in 1997/98. After his mother died he disappeared. He was in a state of mind that let him do reckless things. Anything could have been possible. I found some of the references in some of his Songs after his public outing quite confusing. Take "this is not real Love" for instance. He was so gender specific, talking about a male/female relationship. In "easier affair" he talks about the women who wrongly assumed he could become a family man. After 1996, when Older was released, I never thought about George in those terms. To me he was clearly gay. I found it so strange that years later he would adress women in his songs at all. His interviews were almost always "overshadowed" by the constant talk about his "gayness" but sometimes his views on the dynamics in heterosexual relationships surfaced and I always found him spot on. So it could either be that he was a pretty good observer or that he was speaking from personal experience. As far as his attitude towards having children was concerned, he was very clear about that in interviews. It seemed like something he had to explain quite often, which for an openly gay man, I found quite strange. Over the years he always had to answer that child question in interviews. So taking all those mixed signals into account and how private GM was in terms of his family, it would not be surprising if there was a second or third parallel personal life he had, that very few people knew of. I guess someday things will surface because people eventually always have a desire to talk.

R190 You could be right. Another way to look at it. Back in the Wham days, who would have guessed or believed that GM was cruising.? In fact, until he was outed in the bathroom, how many of us would have believed the one and only SUPER STAR GM was cruising, cottaging or whatever you want to call it and was gay with a partner? In interviews he clearly only told us what he wanted us to know. Think back to Bare, George Michael His Own Story, so much was carefully hidden about the double-life he was living. Who is to say he couldn't have had yet another part of his life carefully hidden......a son?

R190 why would anybody be fussed if GM did have an affair with a woman and have a child? I dont see any reason why GM would have had to hide it either. If that was really a part of his life, so be it. But there is nothing to suggest there was this secret life, except this tale you are spinning here. if George had affairs with many women and had multiple sons it was his business. I dont really care. But your story has no basis in fact and you are creating social media accounts and posting all this stuff to make it appear real. Goodbye. Carry on with your fiction. Who cares?

R 191 R192 I agree with both, you have some good points. And what would he possibly hide more closely then this? And how could he do anything else really after LA, in his interview say he was gay but he slept with one woman? That wouldn´t have put it to rest or achieved what he needed to save his career after that, and this was April of 98... As a gay man I can relate to the complications of such thing, he would have been officially labeled as Bisexual and that is like being some decrease in the gay community, he probably knew that too well because he already tried to come out as Bi from the beginning and knew the bullying that involved from both gay and straights. He was probably gay, with a need for a woman sometimes, might even been this particular woman because it can be attached to one special individual, because if you like to have sex with one gender it doesn´t automatically mean you like to have sex with everyone of that gender, if you love a man or a woman, that might be the only one you feel like that about and want to have sex with, and that actually indicates there was a lot more emotional attachment to this particular person, that would also explain why he protected her like this, and even more so with a possible son involved. It is very natural actually. I said before I think he traveled from one side to the other during his life and maybe he was completely gay later on, that´s possible.

Personally, I have thought about some things that he did in his work, when knowing this, it seems pretty obvious I think, it has been up several times, but he said himself that the question he got all the time after LA was, -What were you thinking? And if you look at the video for Outside, he chose to add a part, in the beginning, answering that particular question, and guess what... it is a blonde woman and they are talking Swedish of all languages. I see that now when I know about it. I also look at the video for Freeek, now I see a blonde woman again, I see him singing about the "hot mama", I see him basically pretend to make a baby at the end, where there is an actual baby as final. I see a lot of things when I am looking with this in mind that I never saw before. I also reacted to when he was asked about children, he never looked so uncomfortable talking about anything else, it was like he wanted to crawl out of his skin and out of the studio, he didn´t even react similar talking about cruising or anything else. There is very much of this when you are open to see it.

I also thought about why he suddenly became so almost obsessed with the world and that is was turning into a horrible place of evil at the time of the Iraq war, or perhaps back to when he made Freeek again, how he was scared to death of the cold exploitation that was shown on television, why would he react that strong do you think, I have a thought about it when I look at the time it happened. It is only my thought, I have no confirmation of this but I think these are things all parents worry about.

For anyone who actually paid attention to what George said in his interviews, it's clear that his songs always had some references to his personal life. Even the songs on Patience that he described as social commentary. It's no secret that he was an intelligent writer that managed to transport so many messages that many people could relate to while at the same time talking about something very personal. But that also means that you see things in his lyrics you want to see. I too realised that certain questions caused some discomfort for him. They were all related to family, childhood and the constant judgement of his cruising. He always said he did not care being seen as a "dirty poof" but he did care. He also said that because he had no children he could speak about certain things that other celebrities did not dare to talk about. So if he really had a child, he would have had many reasons to keep that hidden. It was not the first time that he "hid someone" in order to protect him from his life. One last thing I would like to add, GM was a really honest person and was not affraid to go very deep and disclose his most personal feelings. At the same time he lied when it came to things that were especially hard for him to deal with. Like his split with Kenny or admitting that he had addictions. He eventually admitted it after his prison time. I don't blame him for denying certain things. I just wonder why he did that. Was it protecting people or was it pride?

R196 I think you are spot on when you say -he "hid someone" in order to protect him from his life- .

The swedish mystery woman responded to the rentboy Fawaz today. I think she deleted that tweet. She told him to stop using George....

the twitter account is fake and made by someone who wants to reveal this woman's identity

If that's the case, it's a pretty ineffective way to expose her.

I don´t understand why you think it´s a fake Twitter account? Why would it be? The Facebook is the same and that´s obviously not fake.

I didn´t see that one coming.

Isn't the latest twitter entry odd? "Hi there, it's really me"...after someone HERE suggested that the account may be fake?

^Agree. She has made the same post on her FB account also. It looks like a response to some of us here questioning the validity of the social media accounts. Dont know who she is and what games she is playing. If for 20 yrs she hid her and her son's identity, is this the way to bring it to everybody's notice?

You really think what we say is that important or that she even knows of DL, I am not convinced? I would think the question has been elsewhere too in a lot of places where she could have seen or heard it, maybe some of her close to 2200 friends have heard it and asked? Or have anyone here asked? Or even talked to her? I must say I am very surprised that she put her head out, not that she did because I always had the impression she has the balls needed to do just about anything, but because it is obvious it has been so well protected for so long, not the least by her, I think of what would make her decide to risk exposing herself? She is definitely not the type who want the attention, I think she had too much of that all her life and rather want the opposite, look at how she live to avoid attention, it doesn´t add up, and the fact is that if she wanted attention she could easily have said something at any time the last 20 years, and she never said anything, that makes me think it has to be something else that makes her choose to put her self out there. Haven´t figured out what, but it has to be something, and she is not putting the son out, she is putting her own head out.

I could be all wrong, I don´t know her, but what I know and seen make it obvious to me that it doesn´t add up with attention. It has to be something else to it.

204. Exactly what I was thinking. If this is for real and not some prank then she clearly tries to expose something herself without making it too obvious.

I believe the story about Swedish lady but I do think the Twitter account is fake and not her haven't checked her fb yet

But wasn´t her identity already known since long? It is nothing new..

^ to whom?

To whom? To GM fans I guess. To the media via Twitter with 0/1 follower, no retweets? Nah.

Where did those rumours start? I have only seen that here, don't use FB.

If we are going all the way back, was the first time I heard it in1997 when the pictures of GM and this woman was out for a short time, and there was no doubth what their relation was.. but they seemed to get it removed and it was quiet, except for some info at the town she lives as I told you, untill I guess someone must have blabbed and it appeared all over, here, fb, twitter, pinterest, imgur and so on and from there it has been more and more info comming, but from where I have no idéar. But it has been there very long. The press must be all over this, wonder how they have managed to keep it from them this time, impressive and that if anything confirms this is not about attention, what do you think it is she wants to expose?

I have never seen any press coverage about George with a woman in the past 20 years. If there was, then it must have been some local paper. Those rumours are absolutely new to me. The english press certainly didn't pick that up. Back to her Twitter. What is her intention really? She posts a message to her friends saying it's her and what about the Hippodrome cocktail skewers? I can't imagine that George still went to the Hippodrome in the nineties but what do I know. She obviously went. So there is a picture of her son, a cryptic message to her friends, a "proof" of her "past sins in London during the nineties". Why?

Saw the woman start joining in the mob against Fadi, when one Fadi supporter spotted her and responded to her calling her out as the Swedish woman with a son with GM. That account deleted her tweet against Fadi

As I heard she did not join any mob, simply tell him to stop using GM, that he deserve way better.. It was not in the papers as far as I know, it was papp pictures

"The mob against Fadi"? That poor piece of shit! Anyway, yes, she deleted a rather harmless tweet. Nothing sinister. Strange that she did that at all. But I guess there are more hints to come.

I will be straight with you, some of you probably have figured it out but I know a lot from a trustworthy source about this, (GM side) I know things I will not tell simply because it is not for me to do, but that does that I can promise you this is without any doubts completely and totally real, GM and this woman had a very hot relationship. Now I said it.

To all the fans out there who have the hots for GM and have a hard time to accept his choice to be with this woman, they didn´t do anything wrong, this is actually as far as I know an entirely positive thing to GM and his reputation, that should be a good thing.

Why should any female fan have a problem with George having an affair with a women? It's some queer trolls( like Boy George) that have/had a problem with that. George said a few times that it's gay men who accused him of talking bullshit whenever he brought up bi-sexuality. Many men who prefer men to women but still had and enjoyed sex with women rather say they are gay and keep their mouth shut because many gay and straight men are too fucking ignorant to understand that it's possible. I know a few friends who experienced that. I guess women are much more understandig that there is a certain fluidity in sexuality because being close to their own sex is completely natural to them. There is also less Stigma. So no. There would be no problem with female fans( except for some lunatics).

It certainly appears to be a carefully and well thought out revelation with the posts on here over many weeks drawing attention to a possible situation. True or not, if GM was in any way protecting someone that should continue out of respect for him and those involved. There have been vague suspicions Andros put this out there but no one knows what goes on behind closed doors and there could be huge consequences for all these stories, true or not, for so many people. Maybe as the poster originally stated , the whole reason for mentioning it all was to bring something good into fans minds. That, if its true, has happened, but it should be left to end there now unless there is absolute truth in it all and the family decide otherwise. The repercussions would be massive and possibly hugely damaging for peoples lives.

R218 I agree completely! Wrote about that^ You have some of this around and you do know how it works, wish more did.

R219 I agree with some too, as you say, it could have a huge impact on a lot of people, probably in the way they tried to protect them from, because yes, it is true. That made me think why she put her head out now, can it be to take the hit of it to protect the others involved? That would make sense! Maybe she has realized it won´t go away and likely will blow any time soon and this way she gets some control of the situation and the point of impact, like when she said it is her accounts, it will be harder for anybody else to create a fake account and spread lies about it? That is something I really think she would do, not because she wants to but to protect the ones she loves. That adds up!

That also explain why she got angry enough to put the "Stop using GM" tweet out for a second, she loves him. I am sure it was really about GM to her, not Fadi.

What a load of BS, this thread is riddled with pathetic Lovlies

I am sorry if I repeat something that might have been said before but I did not read the past 12 or 13 threads. I guess the big revelation comes up when his testament gets published( which his family tries to prevent from happening?). In this case the heirs would be exposed, and I think this is the only reason for the delay( and not some bullshit that they don't want to reveal that George aparently was broke. Who cares about that?) So maybe they already know that a big bang is about to come? As I said. I don't see any problem with the fans. A few might be very intrusive but most of them loved GM to bits and would respect her and him. As far as the media is concerned. At the end of the day the press would loose interest if they continued to live their normal lives. There are many children of famous people who manage to lead a normal life. Even Lourdes, Madonna's daughter leads a low key life( University, normal friends etc)

222 pathetic lovelies and one miserable, nosy queen that got thrown out of the 150 threads about that lebanese hooker

R223 I hope you are right about the fans, that they for GM sake will respect her too as she is his choice. GM hated how his life was affected by the celebrity status, that might very well have been one big reason for them to protect this so carefully.

I can only speak for myself but George is gone. It does not matter anymore. The only thing that matters is that people show respect for him. The most terrible thing that is happening now is that for the last few years of his life he was with someone ( on/off) that took advantage of him and does not respect anything that George stood for. So if there was a different reality that the public did not know about because a child/teenager needed protection, then it certainly wouldn't cause any negative feelings towards anyone that was involved. If she is a decent person she has got nothing to fear. I guess after this whole FF saga anything positive is more than welcome.

How does Kenny fit into this story? Did he know? In an interview in 2004 George said that he would still sleep with women but Kenny had a problem with that. It did not make much sense back then as they had an open relationship.

Ever really listened to this? Found it on her twitter and did, my, I guess I know why GM chose to do this, how blind can one be? -My lover, like no other-

R228 You have lost me.

R228 But you know that George didn't wrote the lyrics? It's a cover.

R228 This lady who supposedly for 20 yrs guarded her secret life and her son with GM surely would find better ways to reveal her great secret. Not this slow drip with hints on social media accounts and DL. Most of his songs were about love and lovers. Maybe he wrote them all for her. Btw that song she posted was not written by GM but a cover.

It´s a cover, he decided to do for some reason in 2004 for a radio interview, BBC I think, but does anyone really know what happened after 97?

I made the assumption because she put it on her Twitter, and if you listen to it, it makes a lot of sense, he must have wanted to do that particular cover for some reason, as I said it was my assumption, but I think it is very possible.

Unfortunately George didn't release a lot of his own material after Older. But some songs, as stated before, remain a bit of a mystery. Especially his duet This is not real love. He never explained anything about it. It's a pretty straightforward lyric, cleary written from a man's and a women's perspective. It's not clear when he wrote it. He said he's been writing Amazing for around eight years before it finally got released in 2004. So the release date does not indicate that this was his current state of mind.

This is not real love is about George and Kenny but George changed genders

R234 It's a pretty straightforward lyric

No it's not it's more complicated than you think the perspectives changes in that song

R234 maybe you are not familiar with "this is not real love". It was duet sung with Mutya Buena released in 2006 as part of his second greatest hits album Twenty Five. George performed it live with Mutya 3-4 times during the London concerts of the 25Live tour.

R234 Have you listened closely to the first 1 min of Amazing.

1 min

R231 It is impossible not to realize quite a few of them were if you listen to what GM says.

The lady has now changed her Twitter handle to @TheMrsGKP Making sure everybody gets the message??

To you who cared for GM, I believe she was something very good for him, that this is finally a positive thing. To the rest of you, I think your hostility is a completely misplaced approach to this.

^ He was self-destructing for 20 yrs. What good exactly did she do?

I would say he was sour and dry 1996/97 and by 97/98 he totally changed into a relaxed, happy and charming GM, something positive happened for sure about the time she entered his life and he stayed that way until about 2006/07, then he changed again and from there it went down I think. Will show some examples below.

1996

1998

2004

This was supposed to be after 1998, this is 1999.

He looks happy and relaxed to me, until 2007, then suddenly the sparkling eyes and the smile is gone.

R244 do you really know anything about GM? 1998 is from his Parkinson interview after the LA arrest when he was fighting to save his career. 1999 was at the Linda McCartney tribute concert.

Have you heard any of his interviews? Have you heard him say after the April 1998 arrest for 6-12 months he fought to save his career. Then the floor fell off and he went into a very deep depression when he could not do anything including writing. He suffered from writers block and he could barely function for the next 2-3 yrs. That 2007 photo is from another Parkinson interview where he again spoke about his self-destructive tendencies after his mother died and depression.

Maybe GM was lying all the time when inside he was so happy that he had found the love of his life

R250 I know where the pictures come from, this was about the appearance, eyes, and smile of GM, and not the interview or performance itself, there was no need to specify that. But I am not surprised you tried to derail the issue with it, pathetic. I suggest you read this thread from the beginning, as many times as you need to, it is obvious you lost out on a great deal about GM and you may find a lot ^ you should know before commenting. I will not waste time going thru it again, you do as you please, if you don´t like to know, move on. I had it with aggressive persons, there is no need for it.

Swedish woman is now being talked about on Twitter

why would anybody who keeps saying I want privacy and GM and I kept this secret for 20 yrs, put this info out on DL and Twitter? What is she trying to do? Now she has a bunch of GM fans fighting over this. Makes no sense what she is doing. She will be on the Pink News shortly and who knows what tabloids?

If she was the real McCoy she wouldn't be doing this surely?

Hey lady. Whoever you are. If it is GMs son, go to the family and lawyers and get a paternity test done. Make sure your son gets his rights. Dont fool around Twitter with loonie GM fans. Unless you are a hoax

I really had an open mind on this subject at the beginning. But meanwhile I believe it's a hoax. And as it turns out now not even a well fabricated one. If they still were so close to each other over the years and kept it all so private, she clearly wouldn't wander around twitter with kryptic messages. It's also strange that she took this blurred picture as her profile pic and then befriended with some of these loonies, sorry, lovelies. And just as there is someone questioning this whole story on her twitter and shows photoshopped pictures of herself with George just to make her point, she made her account private. And its not only because her profile pic. All other pics withs GM she showed were in the tabs and they are all around the internet. Either they are unsharp or you can only see her hair and her back. (To be honest I think its Gerri on these pics.) Don't you think she would show some private pictures to back her story? I don't know what's the purpose to make this story up. I for one can only say that I liked the idea of this secret son, because he would have left something beyond his musical work. Otherwise he always denied to have or to want children. He even said it clearly in one of his interviews at the beginning of the Symphonica tour. So, once again, I follow the man himself and believe his version. And whoever made this story up will probably find himself in a lot of trouble very soon. If his lawyers were able to remove Fadi's past from the www, they will also find out who the storyteller on twitter is sooner or later.

^Loonies is the right term for these fans rather than Lovelies

Someone posted some DMs with that chick. Comes across like a total bitch.

Posted where? I'd like to see them. Be interesting to hear what rubbish she spouts.

Not sure if the link works

That is a screenshot that was posted by someone on twitter. Lovely stuff. Does not matter what someone send her via dm. That reply is so bitchy.

I wonder how many times a day she gets attacked like that by jealous persons?

Better one in the original post with the comments.

Good idea to have all the facts.

Well the lady when anybody questions her on her rather fabricated story says you are aggressive and you dont respect the choices GM made etc. She is a BS artist creating some fantasy relationship. When will GM fans learn to ignore these types and not encourage them. Why the hell does she call herself theMrsGKP in the first place? Spreading stories on DL about the relationship and then posting the boy's picture on Twitter which she has removed. As somebody Upthread said this is libel against a person who is no more. I think she realized she could be in trouble and removed the boy's picture and put this disclaimer now. Make up your mind lady

Libel is no joke. Hopefully Karma comes for this delusional, lying, opportunist as well- even better if we get to watch them crash and burn.

This lunatic may be in for far more than they bargained for when they first started spinning this straight-washing of GM fairytale.

^Totally Agree

Something terribly wrong there.

There are some real nuts getting credit by some other nuts, how desperate is that.

Yikes! How very UN-"Lovelie"! Seriously crazy.

She’s unhinged.....she recently announced she’s taking a break as she’s “not feeling well mentally and emotionally”. GM really attracted some crazy chicks!

So what is happening with George's Baby Mama? Share the juicy details pls

I believe the ones who have been puking lies about and making threats about it has blown it for all who wanted to know more about GM, something good! How stupid can people be? The truth will always be the truth, the only difference is that you now blow the chance for anyone to get to know some part of it, you should be ashamed of yourselves. I hope the legal team that is obviously on it will make an example of you! Have you for one second given any thought to all of us who really cared for GM, was happy about this and wanted it? The ones that are not deluded to think they own him or being so jealous of her that you have to destroy every bit of it, with the lowest means I ever have seen, a child...and lies... have you no self-respect at all? You are desperate enough to grasp for the kind of BS you are! And it doesn´t matter to you how you by doing that disrespect GM and all his choices! You do not deserve to ever speak his name! I have never seen supposedly grown-ups behave in such entirely embarrassing manner, you stay down there where you are crawling around trying to fight for something that is not yours to fight about and leave GM, HIS choices of love and all kids alone up there! Shame on you! She has the class to not meet you down there, she will never go to your level, why should she, she still got it all, it is only you who blew your chance and now appear like laughable or rather totally embarrassing! I have seen the proofs you will never get, you have blown the best part of GM you were ever blessed with a chance to at least know existed! She would never have talked about it, but she would probably have given you enough for consolation. You can go back to fight something else, she is gone, you lost your chance and removed it from everyone else too! She said it, now I say it: PISS OFF it is THEIR lives! This is from her Twitter today:

"From now I will keep things as I always have, I was hoping to give happiness, but some people are committing serious offenses to avoid that. Those are being dealt with. They don´t deserve what they could have had. Not after disrespecting and treating the ones involved like this!

I am the only one knowing my life, that is not for anyone to argue about. I am sorry for the ones who do deserve all this happiness, but you already have it! This is what it means in reality that it is Peace and Love or nothing at all! That´s the way it goes! 😎❤️🍓"

Let me tell you one more thing. This hunt has been executed by very few, apparently seriously disturbed and clearly over aggressive persons. The amount of people that wants to know about the happiest part of GM live is astronomical amounts of people! There are so many that have been looking quietly that now are raging. Those few individuals will not get a fan club I am telling you!

Some people have a serious problem with others having happiness and a life when they don´t, why else spend all that time and energy to defeat something good on Twitter...Jealousy is obvious, but this is not normal behavior from adults with their own lives...

^you are just plain mad. you are in serious need of help. go get it before it is too late

It's actually all rather strange - while of course the whole story is bullshit, that photo of the the young man purported to be GM's son was.... eerie. He looked just liked him.

Someone must be a photoshop master.

^This is how she picked a photo of GM and photoshopped it and acted as if it was her. It is not that difficult to find images that look like somebody and to misuse it. Would anybody in the right mind tweet an image of their son like that. Stole some unknown boy's photo from the internet

Oh no- he, she, whichever is back!

I guess after trying to peddle the fake baby mama drama over on Twitter and getting torn to shreds and exposed as a fraud with numerous accounts by a pack of angry, outraged "lovelies", it's back here where the anonymous posting gives a false sense of being able to get away with this shit again.

FYI, IP addresses are traceable here, just like anywhere, and libel is libel EVERYWHERE.

You are a lying, delusional, attention-seeking troll. Seek help. You have clearly gotten in way over your head with your GM straight-washing fairytale.

How thick are you? This is not about you, she has been sticking to protect GM not matter your actions, she has made the decision you don´t deserve it and that is the sole reason for her pulling it out of your reach, you blow your chance. She doesn´t care for you at all, she hasn´t put any time or effort into you, why? Because she is above that, she is what she said she is, and she has it all, no matter if you believe it or not, she has no need to prove it to total strangers, because that is why you are, her friends know what you never will, you are the only losers here. You had your show of self-humiliation all alone, why should she take part in that? Do you actually believe that some over hysterical middle-aged woman with no lives harassing in Twitter, will ever be of any importance? I am sure her friends will still have it, but you lost it, now go on harassing the usual ones, this one doesn´t give a toss about you or will ever do anything to please you, I think she proved that well. Realise that she is who she says, she has no need to prove it to some aggressive strangers on Twitter, how can anyone even get that thought, that doesn´t make it any less true or mean she has pulled back the information for what reason you like to think, it is only because she is the bigger woman as she clearly showed and decided you do not deserve any of it, it is still true, only out of your reach any longer. She doesn´t care what you think, you are entirely unimportant. But I am sure she had some laughs at your insane interpretations and more or less paranoid gossip, you got it all so wrong, all of it, you believe what you create, you create. Some put a lie out, the rest keep it going, it gets back to you, and you believe it, it is the behavior of morons. You are embarrassing, you made a total fool of yourselves, realize she never followed you down to your level, you been fighting alone. You are not important to her, she lives her life while you are spending time on Twitter arguing with everything. She still has it all, you lost your chance, you have nothing more than fighting on social media. Fadi Fawaz, Alex Georgiou, now her... get a life!

A couple of special morons, at least one with real mental issues, are using the rest of you, feeding you BS, as if you were a pack of sheep, following without thinking yourself, happily eating everything they feed you without question it, do you really accept to be treated like that? You are used as tools, fed BS, and appear like...sheep. I thought a lot of you would have self-respect enough to not accept being treated and used that way. Have you no self-respect? She is not doing any of that, and there is more supporting her then you can even count, there are messages of all sorts in huge amounts to prove that. She respects the ones who deserve it, accepting to be treated like you do, doesn´t make anyone respect you. Do you really want to look like what you appear to be right now?

^That so-called Swedish woman on Twitter and the poster who was spreading this crap on the DL threads is one and the same. Mentally deranged is the word that comes to mind. Listen we dont want to hear any of your bull crap stories about this great affair and son she/you had. we simply dont want to hear this total BS story and we dont mind missing out on this great happiness and secret she/you had. Creating fake accounts like this one to keep spreading stories. Go and get your head examined. If you continue like this the Estate Lawyers will find you and you will get into big trouble. Shut up and go away for your own good

How thick are YOU??? We "don't deserve it", "lost our chance" it's "out of our reach"??? What's that exactly? Hearing some more of your delusional troll fan fiction? No one gives a shit. Just go away and get yourself the mental health services you so clearly require, before the estate's legal team comes for you, hard.

R283 Is there a way to block this person from posting this crap on the DL threads?

R284 Hit the FF button on their posts(report Flamers and Freaks) you can also block seeing them by hitting the ignore button (the circle with the red line slashed thtough it) You can undo an ignore at any time.

^through

I did touch a nerve, yes the truth would be hard for you if your sheep started to realize it! I guess this is what you started to threat and create more lies to cover:

281/ A couple of special morons, at least one with real mental issues, are using the rest of you, feeding you BS, as if you were a pack of sheep, following without thinking yourself, happily eating everything they feed you without question it, do you really accept to be treated like that? You are used as tools, fed BS, and appear like...sheep. I thought a lot of you would have self-respect enough to not accept being treated and used that way. Have you no self-respect? She is not doing any of that, and there is more supporting her then you can even count, there are messages of all sorts in huge amounts to prove that. She respects the ones who deserve it, accepting to be treated like you do, doesn´t make anyone respect you. Do you really want to look like what you appear to be right now?

R279 and on. That you have no dignity we already know, you don´t need to humiliate you any further. Would be a good thing if you at some point realize this is not your business at any aspects, it is purely between GM, her and whomever they would have wanted, I assure you it doesn´t include you. I would not be surprised if some of you will find out by some professionals who can explain very clearly the inappropriate of your behaviors. If you believe you can get rid of anyone who stands up for GM and the truth against your complete disrespect of him, I can inform you that if I go, there is a long line behind me to continue. Do yourself and all others the favor and realize you put your noses in things that don´t have anything to do with you, that is none of your business, like someone would start to behave like that to you about your family, get the reality, it is embarrassing to watch. Give the attention to what you should care about, if you have anything... if you have chased that away too, a tip would be that it has something to do with you. Now I am inclined to agree with the woman herself, you are not worth it and not strong enough to see yourself clearly and therefore not able to take to heart how your behavior makes you look. Get over it and move on, it is not your life.

To the sheep, take a good look at the one you are following, it is not normal behavior. Don´t stay down there. Someone has lost all connection to reality and will make you look just as bad while you are accepting to be used. I believe you can do a lot better don´t let them use you, I am sure most of you are worth much more than to be treated that way.

Nut job. Small percentage of fans get totally obsessed. Like Hinckley or the guy who killed Rebecca Shaeffer. This is probably the same woman that George said lived under his house for fours days or the one he found in his garden. Scary. They are stalkers. And really crazy this one, cause she can't even let go when he's dead and buried.

R290 Agree. Just so obsessive and ranting over and over again. It is really scary. I hope whoever started this thread just closes it and does not give this person the platform to keep on ranting.

R290 and R291 totally agree. This is one truly scary, mentally unstable whacko. The best that can be done right now is to put them on ignore. There are two IP addresses used, as the DL board did some kind of reset maintenance a few days back that cleared everyone's post visit numbers.

Just ignore one of their posts from the beginning of the thread, and another one from the more recent ones in the last day or two and POOF! Just like magic all the ridiculous, incoherent, delusional rants disappear. (More than half the thread!) LOL!

This is definitely one of those times where "Don't Feed The Trolls" is the best possible advice. Completely ignored and refused any attention, eventually they will leave and/or take it somewhere else. What a nutcase!

Looking forward to discussing George Michael's true legacy-his life, music and philanthropy with sane folks going forward.

R292 and on. I thought you wouldn´t like the rest to start thinking by themselves, would be some problems for you.

You can not change the history, no matter how loud you are screaming and kicking, you might as well accept it. It won´t change! :)

^ even if you did sleep with GM it is not of historic importance. Nothing that changes history etc. The poor man is dead and gone. Leave him alone and shut up and go and live in your fantasy land troll. You are the laughing stock of everybody with your fantasies and rants

Interesting.

R294 You were on to something true there, so what if they slept together, it is none of anybody else's business, exactly what she and her friends have tried to say all the time. It is way over time everybody realizes that and go back to their own lives.

Issued a statement before locking her account

R297 what does that statement even mean? Just disgraceful behavior trying to plant untrue stories and yelling at everybody questioning her/him that they were being disrespectful to GM. All these "lovelies" turned "loonies" need to shutup and move on.

It has something to do with this photo supposedly of the Swedish woman and GM that the lovelies said was photoshopped

The poor thing cant let it go. After saying I didnt say it was George's son, she is back saying it . Posting and deleting statements. Pls get some help

Lets give it to this woman. She had a 20 year beautiful love story with George, had his son, yes, singel son. Now leave us all alone and stop fucking with our heads. Go away and protect the son you had. Pls go

True.

Seen the latest tweet from the Swedish woman/man?

^That blatant photoshop of a GM picture. That person is not right in his/her head. Even after all the pushback she got and went quiet the first time, she is back playing her games. Nobody even cares anymore and she is making a fool of herself

R304 You really missed out on a few things, didn´t you? First, she didn´t go away, secondly, about the haters, she didn´t even seem to waste attention to them at all, and she is absolutely not the one embarrassing herself. She wrote one thing regarding their behavior,

-The truth will stay the same no matter what, it never changes! Peace & Love! XXX –

That is some very true words.

Thirdly, about the picture, she got it from GM, he had it done to protect her, he decided he wanted to have it done, it belongs to her, so why would she not use it, it is made on top of a real picture that look the same, it is only the top of GM that is changed, no wonder it is good, it really shows what she wanted to give, without exposing any of the original pictures, I am sure she never will put any of those in the hands of the haters after them showing how intelligent they received this, unfortunately as usuall, now the ones who appressiated it and was grateful to see this part of GM are also robbed of that possibility becasue of the actions of those few slaves of their own jelousy. Pathetic. The only bad thing about the picture, is that those same people were the reason why GM felt the need to do such arrangements to protect the ones he loved, shame on you! And strange to focus on the picture to cover up the fact of how it came to your knowledge, not by her, but by someone hacking into her private computer and stealing a private picture, this one! We would never have seen it otherwise! So who actually did something very wrong and made a total embarrassment of itself is obvious to anyone who has the guts to look, and it is not GM or his woman. I am in a big company loving this picture for what it really shows, it is probably as much as we will ever see now. Below is copied from one of the very few times she answered any of the false accusations made against her regarding the entire hunt for her, for loving and being loved by GM.

-Some serious offenses were committed by a few persons, following one who could not deal with the knowledge of this, knowing that me and George are true, this person seemingly lost it completely, turning this into a persecution for me, by lying, hacking and creating the false information and false proofs, you now appear to believe in and mixing wildly. These offenses are at this time handled by professionals, serious violations have been made. This is one private picture hacked from my private computer where its only purpose for years has been as a bait for hackers and to provide an easy identification of the hacker itself, no one has taken it until now. But I am sure you already know that. What you don´t know is that the photo was done on top of a real one, only changing the top of George, in the original he looks just as happy and mischevious but looking at the camera who caught us, I still have that photo, and I would never put it on social media! I have no idea who did the picture, I got it as protection from George, I think he would be the one to decide if he wanted this picture done or not and if there were people out there that actually made it necessary to do, and he was right. No, I don´t photoshop my pictures, I don´t have to! And I leave it there and would be grateful if you did too. You are in the right to your beliefs, that is fine, but then just let it go. I don´t want any fights over this, it will not change the truth anyway and only hurt people. I must be able to answer what people trying to understand in all well-meaning, without being attacked, I want no harm, Peace and Love!-

^F*ck off and go find a Dr and get your head examined. You and your bloody stories.

"Thirdly, about the picture, she got it from GM, he had it done to protect her, he decided he wanted to have it done, it belongs to her, so why would she not use it, it is made on top of a real picture that look the same, it is only the top of GM that is changed, no wonder it is good, it really shows what she wanted to give, without exposing any of the original pictures" -> Atleast learn to photoshop properly before you try these tricks.

Computer was hacked and all this kind of complete rubbish. We should report this account to GMs Estate and get the lawyers acting against this person to shut this nonsense down

R306 Why don´t you bother about something that actually concerns you instead. Get your own life and stop harassing other people for having their lives, that is none of your business.

Please, stop feeding the troll! If you stop responding to this delusional, attention-seeking head case, it will go away, or at least go elsewhere. Every time someone responds, it starts again. Attention is the only goal for this head case.

This person's credibility and ridiculous story have already been exposed as pure bullshit, both here and on Twitter, where the "lovelies" tore he/she/it to shreds. Just let it go.

Fuck off troll, take your fan-fic straight-washing fantasy elsewhere. Nobody gives a shit what you have to say here..

Remember, SLANDER and LIBEL are a big mistake anywhere, and your IP Address is traceable EVERYWHERE. You are not just a troll, you"re an ignorant asshole.

Stop hating everybody and everything, respect the persons own decisions for their own lives, that is not your life, but get your self a life too instead of spending it arguing about others...that actually has one.

For someone who claims not wanting anything to do with it, you´re spending an awful lot of attention on it...slander and libel you say, you should know...then don´t forget, your IP is just as easy to trace.

Live like you preach and don´t give this any more attention, go and find a place where anyone want you or care for what you think, to this issue you don't matter at all, this thread is for those who want to know the whole truth of GM and that is a very big part of it.

A friendly advice, get help for that aggression.

^Friendly advice: get some help immediately for your insanely grand delusions. Its pathetic to watch

I totally agree! It is pathetic of you to watch when you think it is insanely grand delusions, that seems to be way more urgent to get help for, just a friendly advice so you don´t keep wasting time on this that is clearly not your thing.

^ Thats it for me. Good Bye. Hope you get your just desserts for needlessly slandering a dead man.

As I have mentioned before I am reading “Bare”. George makes a few comments regarding David Austin.

George: “I remember standing at a railway station with David Austin just before he went off with a group to Thailand. One of the guys in the band had a very rich father who had property in Thailand and they went over there and recorded this album. And I remember David saying to me at this station just before he left, Yog, if you were any good, if your songs were any good, someone would have picked you up by now. And when he came back, we had the contract. Which I really gloated about!

I always knew that if I worked with David we would fall out. We argued all the time anyway and it would have been horrible to have had something serious to argue about, like business. No way would Wham! Have lasted more than a year if it had been David and me.

Andros: George and David had lived in the same road in Edgware - Redhill Drive. When George came to my house I would have my local mate there, and when I went to his place, there would be David. It is very difficult to find friends in the business — but with David or me Wham! Would never have happened. David is much more pushy than Andrew more because George was always the boss. In friendship or career, he was the more powerful personality. Even today, David tries to be a stronger personality than either Andrew or me. I think that George needed someone around him who he could boss about. Because he knew where he was going, he was plotting out all the steps, and Andrew would follow willingly. David would have always been saying — fuck off, I’m not doing that.”

I take it George let David know where he stood.

Be sure to tune in Sunday evening to watch George Michael’s autopsy evaluation.

R314 More speculation not grounded on facts and reality. What do they know? Only that death certificate. Nothing else

I have been thinking about GMs Swedish woman there has been talking about for a very long time all over, The Alpha, and been looking at GM behavior thru the time the relationship must have been. This is my thoughts, and not to get all the fans that claim ownership of GM to get all upset in their denial. It is what I found and my opinion. You can stay in denial if you like.

In 1997 GM was in a depressive state and had a reckless pattern of behavior according to himself, when he showed up in 1998, all of a sudden any sign of depression was gone and he even started to write, something very positive happened to him during that time. Don´t say the arrest, he said himself that didn´t do it for him, and to who would it, but undeniable something did it to him.

To love was together with writing what really made GM happy, so to me, this fits to well to be ignored in time and with his changes in behavior. Don´t say Kenny, what GM called, the fxck fxck stage was long gone by late 1997, if he keept him as a front or to avoid questions and suspicions he did a good choice, there is still a lot that believes in love despite the drugescalate after 2007, Kenny's alcoholism, the separate bedrooms, the cruising, all time spent in different continents and so on, GM had already been searching for it elsewhere for quite a while, and the time he, to those fans, would have been happy and inlove from 1996, he was completely depressed and that realtion didn´t infact bring him out of it or even in the right direction, he went further down when that should have held him up... But perfectly at that time is The Alpha, who supposed to have entered GM life Aug-Sept 1997, he is supposed to have loved her for real, and at that time he suddenly seems to have gotten better after the loss of his mother, their love would explain it, if we look solely at the fact of his behavior. Maybee his hair too..grew longer and stayed longer until after the next change that happened. What has been said is not as reliable because I hope none believes the extreme private GM ever let his fans all in on every private part of his life, and I am pretty certain some things were said with the purpose to put the spotlight on something else than the things he decided to keep for himself, he even said himself he kept some for his own amusement. In 1998 he was even writing again, and the ones who seen interviews during this time have to agree he looks happy in love. For some reason he waited from April 1998 to later that year before finishing "Outside", maybe he was busy with something more important in his life during that time when no one really saw him or knew his whereabouts eighter. Supposedly his son was born in June 1998. Even the time from when they meet Sept 1997, to the son was born is exact. And have you seen how he looked in April 1998, an obvious possible case of a co pregnant man. The video for "Outside" has already been spoken about ^ R24 After that, he seemed pretty ok and did perform and write, no one knows where he spent a lot of his time because he was not seen in between very much. He said himself it wasn´t the US a lot.

To me he did two things that are kind of strange for a man who supposedly had no children, first in 2002 he got terrible upset of the way sexuality and humans were portraited in television and how it affected children, then he wrote "Freeek" and that text and video is also talked about ^ R194, then in 2003 he got terribly upset about the Iraq war because of how evil the world was becoming for the children to grow up in and he wrote "Shoot the dog" Using an English Bulldog...The Alpha has one. 2004 for a BBC radio show, he decides to make a cover of "For the love of you" ^ R232. 1/2

Then something happened during the 25 live tour time, in 2006 or 2007, he changes rapidly once again but this time it was a fast drop, a lot of drugs, then arrests and negativity and his appearance changed too. Again don´t say because he broke up with Kenny, that wasn´t until around 2009, Fadi came later, this was something way worse and it happened 2006 or 2007, I still havent figured out what it might have been. And, The Alpha has never suggested anything about GM sexuality, we know that might be fluid and personally, I believe he went from one side to the other thru his life. There is no woman that has come forward, suggesting The Alpha might possibly be the only woman. Personally, I think he might have had a need for her, and he was having her, but he was also living a gay life being with men, and doing both thru all that time. Why he couldn´t say Bisexual is easy, the bullying from the community and the female fans going way worse out of control and he would have exposed his life with The Alpha. ^ That is a thought, they meet in 1997, something changed in 2006-2007, maybe that is what happened, sexuality was very important to GM and I have not seen or heard anything suggesting anything else than that he lived as very entirely completely Gay after that time. I choose the truth, this is for you who are the real fans of GM, the rest, don´t go mental, it is only some of my thoughts. 2/2

^Yes I believe everything you say, And I am getting admitted to the mental asylum today

R 318 So you couldn´t stay away, maybe you do like it but don´t dare to say, like a boy pulling the hair on a girl he likes, at 5 years old. I am happy you are getting the help you need today.

Now to the real topic. Does anyone in here actually know The Alpha? To make such vicious judgments like some have done you have to at least have talked to the person to know the things you claim?

A rumor this strong that go on this long coming back over and over is very likely true. This started in 1997 and has been in here at least since one of the earlier Fadi Fawaz saga threads, a lot of different persons has talked about it. And they got the same comments as I did from some jealous fans in denial whom most likely need the medication themselves to compensate for their shortcomings enough to see facts instead of illusions.

I am not willing to dismiss it without knowing, and looking at the facts, The Alpha actually never has claimed anything, to oppose to what the made-up nonsense say, nobody really knows anything, fans are demanding answers and at the same time some has been so busy to crush this by believing in created lies about it, that they miss out on the possible real truth of what has happened. Have those persons been to occupied with making up their own versions of reality to even notice that The Alpha has not lied, even if that would have been the simplest way to get them off her, she stands by GM thru all they do to her, she hasn´t talked, she has not sold anything, she has not done anything to get attention, if you look at the facts and not the made up lies about her, and she has not spent months trying to hurt any of you. I can´t see how the actions, including to a child, done by a few highly disturbed persons with apparently no life of their own, is acceptable to anyone no matter what.

I will not settle with the way a few people have manipulated some others to believe about it, the more I looked at what really happen I found all of that, to be the actual lies. Not to mention the credibility of the sources, look at who the lies come from, it speaks for itself. For someone to put so much effort in to create all that fake info about a stranger to prevent the real fans of GM to know the truth, is not right and that is what´s not normal.

Now with all BS going on more than ever. This could be the positive thing that is needed for a lot of sane fans.

Ipreffere to think for my self, I don't follow the lead of people who seemingly have lost all common sense together with the reality of this in favor of fanatic obsession about it to prevent the truth from coming out if it doesn't fit their own wishes and fantasies.

Fact is that most haven't even meet eighter GM or The Alpha, not even talked to them, not knowing any of them at all, but still believe they are qualified to make any judgments about this, without knowing any of them, and what if it is GM love and son, what do you think he would feel towards you and what you are doing to them? I will never get that to add up to caring for GM.

His sexuality was speculated about ^ R120 because no one knows the entire truth of that eighter, all based on each own wishes and unqualified speculation, like everything about GM.

Autopsy: The Last Hours of George Michael and George Michael ‘s Lonely Life will be re-broadcast on Reelz this evening Thursday, June 7.

Did George Michael take voice lessons once he realized he would be singing?

The Alpha has been putting some interesting messages on Twitter, what she stated makes a lot of sense. I think it also has to do with the things that have happened lately with many of the ones that were supposed to have been close to GM, and maybe we should see who really was there and cared for GM and not for the limelight and money? It is refreshing when someone close to GM actually says something. The actions, talks a lot clearer than any words, Andrew, Kenny, Fadi, Alex, David or The Alpha. Some even want to add Andros.

Copy of the first Tweet: People who decide to follow instead of thinking for themselves should really take a good look at who they are following the lead off! Really? 🤣😎❣️

Alpha = obsessive psycho

R 324 = In full denial because of embarrassment about own stupidity. In great need to read the message in R323.

A little confused. Is this supposed to be the mother of so-called George’s son? Or is this Mary?

R326 I have no idea who Mary is, but The Alpha is the one GM loved, and they are supposed to have a son, yes.

If "sure Jan" was ever warranted this is it.

^ LOL!! Fantastic Riposte that. Need tonnes of salt and humor to deal with trolling on this scale

What particular thread for George Michael is this one?

GM and his Alpha

From the Fadi Fawaz tread, The only thing proven to be fake is the few not so Lovelies who went completely insane when they realized GM actually fxxxed a woman but was not interested in them. As said many times, there are some seriously delusional fans out there, who put their entire existence around GM and seems to actually believe he belongs to them, and he is what they want him to be, it has nothing to do with GM and this was some of the worst. The only fake here is the "evidence", pictures, Twitter rulings and so on made by those few, who also got hold of pictures by hacking into a private computer and committing other offences to shut down a truth they could not handle, and the account of the woman has never been false or more than one. They would never have been putting themselves and others thru that risk if they didn't actually know it was true, think, and this is the kind of info and persons you decide to believe? Without me telling you who those persons are I think you may already know, and you already know that a couple of those are well known to has real diagnoses as psychologically disturbed. This only tells me you are as sad as those fanatics who can´t take who GM was and fight to silence the truths to keep him as they found it fit for him to be in their fantasy, completely lacking eighter knowledge or respect of the real GM. Like they do with so many other matters too. Until you actually had the real facts about this, and not the fake ones, made by obsessive fans, it would have been very much more intelligent not to follow that particular crowd without questioning the lunatics leading you. At least one of those lunatics are in here and try to derail your own thinking into suggesting it was proven false, that it never was.

Add to R332 The head fanatic who completely lost her sanity about this even made a complete fool out of her self by also claiming she had got the FBI to start an investigation about the Swedish woman, this was obviously also proven to be false. Time to get your heads on straight and see what is GM and respect that, this woman is a big part of him, whether the fanatics like it or not.

This head fanatic has done this before, there is at least one more person who has been obsessively hunted beyond any normal boundaries by her and that hunt was also based on lies and fabricated "evidence".

Dinkiez Alpha I am the woman you are talking about. When reading your comments I ask myself if some of you have thought at all about, it is actual humans you are talking about, very much including your comments regarding a very young man, my son! I usually never reply to the speculations, but this time I will, when it comes to my family some have crossed a very significant line, I could point at some comments above, but I think you understand. I am sad to see some show pure disrespect of Georges choices and decisions for HIS life! There are so many things that are wrong in the made assumptions I feel I have to write this to you even if I probably shouldn´t, and I truly wish I didn't have to, that none of this had ever been known, but to protect my loved ones I´ll do anything, and hopefully you will take it to heart, I write in all well-meaning, please receive it kindly.

-Yes, of course, the ones it actually concern knows, always have! -And my son is most definitely real!

-I never even once said anything about this official and did not start this rumors! I still haven't said anything or told anything officially about it, and have absolutely no intention to do so, it is our private lives we are talking about! And to address the specifics of what some of you say, I have not spread it on social media or anywhere! -I never wanted any of it to be other than private, as it been for over 20 years and was supposed to stay. This is not out by our choice or desire, but the exact opposite and created by the hands of someone who had the bad taste to stab us in the back by telling about this when George was no longer here. It is our private lives and the real humans in it you are talking about.

-Your request about if DNA test has been done or not is an entirely private matter and will never be of any concern to anyone else then the involved whom obviously knows and always have. -This is about one woman, me, the others you mix into this has no connection to this at all. -The story copied in here from a paper is not me eighter, and it has no truth to it whatsoever. -I am the direct opposite of the nutters some of you try to mix me up with, give GM some credit! -I am absolutely not crazy or wanting any attention. -I have only ever had one account, never more, that seems to be more then some can handle, haha, even if I hardly ever use that one. -The tabloids started months ago, with no success, some things in life are not for sale, this is one of those things, that should be obvious. It is bad enough it has spread this far. I want nothing except our privacy. -That answer your thoughts about money too, I want nothing, that should be perfectly clear by now. This is all about true love!

-This is all coming from someone leaking information about us and gossipers creating lies and spread and now some of you talk like you believe in it as facts, and some make judgments like if you actually knew. The info was originally leaked in a few places several months ago. Continue

Ignore the last R335, wrong thread. Copied into Discussion Fadi Fawaz Saga XV reply 3 and on.

Everytime you say something nasty about GM woman and the son, you are treating him worse than anybody else and you would hurt him the most, think about it.

Excuse me, what woman and son. George was gay.

Happy Birthday George Michael!

Alpha wrote this on Twitter today.

I’m late to the party. Is the above for real or just feeding the trolls?

R341 It's for real alright, couldn't agree more, finally someone close had the balls to say it.

R340 The Alpha is the fakest of fakes.

Toby Bourke’s honest outlook of George Michael.

R343 Have you read it? (R340) I would say she is extremely honest, the only one close who actually been.

I think it is time to stop the kind of comments you did, it sounds completely stupid and over used, I haven´t seen anything FROM HER being anything but kind, honest and mature. I know more then I realize that, but don´t don´t have the balls to say it.

It is time to stop, whatever happened is none of our business anyway, it is entirely between GM and Alpha, and the truth is we don´t know.

R341 , R343 is correct. This thread is, almost in it's entirety, one giant fan-fiction, concocted by one very seriously delusional troll.

R346 It is so ironical that this delusional troll who has created this entirely fictitious story of a love affair and a son with George Michael is now lecturing GM fans on how to behave and how to honor and respect George Michael. And on Twitter there are foolish and idiotic enough GM fans to say "oh what true words". Everything is upside down in the land of George Michael fans. And if you stay long enough you are likely to lose your mind. These are "Loonies" not "Lovelies".

[347] Thanks for the good laugh. I needed it on a Friday evening. Love “LOONIES” instead of “LOVELIES” in reference to the delusional troll.

Just read about GMs x some can't get enough of, despite both now showing themselves only being after GMs money, and I realise Alpha seems to be the only one that was with GM entirely for him and nothing else, she never showed any interest whatsoever towards his money. To me, that really says a lot about their relationship being the real kind.

This is their thread and I am entitled to my opinion that is the same as many others, but not everybody, so drop the overreaction everytime anybody says something that might be different from your opinion, that is not fun bitching, constructive talk or anything but pure harassment because of beliefs. A few persons have put this into a system to do everytime anyone says something constructive or positive. Leave this thread if you don't want to talk about what the thread is about, or stop harassing the ones who want to talk about it freely. I know what the tread is named but I also know what it is about. The real DLs know the difference between fun and inappropriate discrimination based on opinion.

When thinking about it, she hasn't shown or told anything no matter how bad people like you treated her, opposite to the other two who only care who pay the most not about GM.

Something happened to George years ago besides the loss of Anselmo and his mother to add to his depression and push over the edge. Could it be possible it is because he had a female lover and a son? The fact that it was another situation that he had to live a lie. The first being his sexuality and then to have a son that he couldn’t acknowledge publicly if in fact the woman and son are true.

R351 I think you are on to something, some DLs have written some similar things R316 and R317 and more. I think a lot of people have realised by now that the things released to cover up the relation was done by a few insane ones and were all fabricated lies to make sure no one would realise the truth of it, all utter crap and nothing more, and people usually see thru it eventually. But for me, I look at the woman and what she really has done and not, that tells me the same as R349 and 350 are seeing. But I also see she is the only one that stands up for GM. And I looking at GM himself, he leaves a lot of signs that this was the real happening and the timing for all of it is spot on too. Someone put a picture on FB today from the day of the LA arrest, that was less than 2 months before his son is supposed to have been born, look at GM, he had all signs of being like some men who go into the pregnancy so much that they too gain weight and stuff. He did things fully and got very emotionally involved in family stuff, so it is one more thing that is spot on. I look at GM and her, it is where the answers are to be found, not at the fanatics, and to me it is too much and to perfect timing to be possible being anything else than true. But as some stated before, it is sad so many of the fanatic fans are too jealous and claim ownership of him to be able to see that it was probably something good to him. It was even likely the reason for him to go thru such a long stint to get clean, nothing else had been enough reason for him to do it before, but a child is a reason that strong, especially for someone with that strong sense of responsibility like GM had. There are signs in his entire life that I think tells us more truth than anything else we will ever get, some songs has a lot too, that way he tells it himself, not the official version in interviews, but the real one of his life.

I also like the fact to let this thread be open for its purpose, to talk friendly and freely about its topic without being harassed.

[R353] I will definitely get nasty comments after I make the following comment. Supposedly GM was initially bisexual. He met Anselmo and fell in love at the age of 27 or 28. The relationship never got past the romance and infatuation stage. The old saying love is blind really pertains to this stage. The relationship is lots of affection, laughter, playfulness and all the negative traits are ignored. There are butterflies in the stomach and your fluttery heart doesn’t stop beating for each other. Anselmo took ill after six months. The relationship never got past this stage. Then there was Kenny. Anselmo and George’s mother passed away. George’s first experience with two devastating losses. He took it extremely hard. Then he met Kenny. Apparently the relationship with Kenny made it way past the first stage of a relationship. George had a hard time trusting people. I think that is why Kenny was in the picture as long as he was. During the 25 Live tour video there are behind the scenes where Kenny looks totally bored with what is going on around him and with George. Throughout this time George’s appearance changes a few times. His struggles with his sexuality becomes headlines as well as his drug use. At one point George publicly makes the statement when he walks in a restaurant the first thing that gets his attention are the ladies. He still is attracted to women, however, because of the stigma with aids and having sex with men he would not have sexual relations with women. He didn’t want to explain his sexual life with women but he felt he would owe them that much. His drug use escalates throughout the years and supposedly he has paid escorts. It seems that sex goes hand-and-hand with his sexual escapades. His appearance changes drastically during the his last years. Anytime George’s sexual encounters become public knowledge poppers and other drugs are always involved. I often wonder why he needed drugs to have sex and needed to live on the edge with his public sex life. I am not questioning if he was bisexual or gay. George was very private in many ways but he was also an open book in other ways. He expresses quite a lot about his happiness and his turmoiled life in his music. He was happy during Wham! days. His music was happy and upbeat. There are definitely times throughout his 30 some year career that he was extremely healthy and happy looking. Then there are times when everything about George was a mess.

Below are George Michael’s exact words.

His argument is that although they have sex with other men, they are emotionally monogamous. But here comes another George Michael revelation... sexually, he swings both ways, "When I walk into a restaurant I check out the women before the men, because they're more glamorous. If I wasn't with Kenny, I would have sex with women, no question," he enthuses. "But I would never be able to have a relationship with a woman because I'd feel like a fake. I regard sexuality as being about who you pair off with, and I wouldn't pair off with a woman and stay with her. Emotionally, I'rn definitely a gay man."

R354 I find it very likely he could have slept with this woman, not necessarily any other, I actually doubt it, but it cant be denied she seems special to him, probably why some fraus overreact like they would be insane of jealousy. Some don´t understand the fluidity that exists for a lot of people regarding their sexuality and therefore it has to be all black or white to them. But I would say he was all gay the last years, but before that I am not so sure and I think it is very possible. There is a lot of times he said he was attracted to and could sleep with women, one interview he said he likes a bit of both, in more ways then one, another time he also said once he would sleep with women if it wasn´t for Kenny didn´t want him to, I think Kenny was a convenient front in many ways. I think you are right about Anselmo and GM glorification of him and therefore also creating a very hard loss made a lasting wound, to lose his mother close to that was another complete blow and I would suspect GM was down for count when Kenny saw his chance and they started their relation. But when I look at GM I see this time a bit differently than you I think, I see Kenny becoming a part of GM life, but GM didn´t show any signs of feeling better or even really happy until a bit later, that is long after the first phase was over with Kenny, and it is also the about the time he supposedly got together with the woman and she must have become pregnant. By that time he showed creative energy and happiness and looked healthy. I have a theory about this, maybe they really fell for each other, that is the kind of thing that gives the entire body a rush and would kick him out of his depression and into this positive state of mind, like he displayed at that time. Then it has already been up by previous DLs that there are songs that can´t be ignored in connection to this, like GM explain what he thought of in LA and showed it in Outside, some parts of Amazing, Freek of course both text and video where he has a baby at the end, it is also talked earlier about GM strong reactions that caused him to make Freek or Shoot the dog, and that his reactions are very telling if he had a child, but not so common for someone who doesn´t. He was very private for many years and the truth is none of us know what he was or did and with who, so he had all the opportunities to have this secret in his life. But I agree with your reflection of the time for the 25 live tour, he was in good shape at the beginning, but at 2007, something had happened and then the downward spiral started, but Kenny didn´t go away until 2009 so it was something else. About Kenny, it has been pretty obvious that they had no love life after the first years, GM had his and Kenny his and separate bedrooms, this makes me suspect Kenny was kept as roommate and some kind of publicity-friendly front to cover the real private life of GM. It would also free GM from looking like he was lonely and get all sorts of attention to it and again be questioned about his sexuality and go back trying to cover the full private truth of it as it might have been a bit more to it, that he obviously decided to keep private, but still showed without anyone notice in some songs and videos. Continue.

Continue from 356, sorry it got a bit long. That solution would surely have worked for Kenny, he got the limelight, money and lifestyle he wanted out of GM, who by the way don't seem to have been there with him or want any of that. But I don´t think GM needed drugs to have a sex life, what I do think is that he was a thrill junkie when it came to sex, he said himself he wanted the first phase when you want to rip each other's clothes of all the time, and to get that he eighter had to break up with Kenny or find it elsewhere. I agree he liked to walk a thin line between private sex or to be found out, surely for the thrill, and what would give a higher thrill than to risk being found out with a special woman with the way he marketed himself. He played with this a lot of times and said a lot of things suggesting that without being found out at that time, when you know the possibility, it is a lot more obvious.

R 340 is precisely what I was saying, she is the only one that stands up for GM, entirely without kissing asses of fans or anybody, or taking side for anyone but GM, it is all for GM. That speaks volumes, especially when looking at what the others in GM's life care about.

If GM did go for deals with men or casual, was it because he already loved somebody else but needed both or perhaps couldn´t love any man after Anselmo but still wanted them? It is not unusual to only love one, and we don´t choose that, but need both kinds for the difference.

The true reason why Kenny abandoned GM and the deal could be that he was realising the ship was sinking and because he didn´t love GM he only saved himself from going down with it without trying to save GM. It is a bit the same when he sold his story to the Sun.

I have read all 358 postings. I missed somewhere along the way what information Andros put out there about GM after his death. Does Andros believe GM had a son?

R359 What give you the idea that GM would have trusted Andros with something like this? I highly doubt it. But I know Andros says GM had an angel in his life and that this angel was the only reason he lived that long, that is Andros own words. Andros seems to have the good taste and restraint to leave that part of GM's life private, maybe he knew how important it was to him. Andros might realise that the son of GM, would change his and his kids' chances in a will, if he was made public and choose to keep it silent, otherwise I would think he would have sold it by now. This picture was put on Alfas Twitter about the time I heard Andros telling about GM's angel. I think it is a lot going on we never get to know about, they have always been good at keeping things in the family. Making no one really know.

R354

[R360] I never said I thought GM trusted Andros. In previous posts it states Andros had made comments after GM’s passing. I asked what did Andros say. I am well aware of George’s fallout with Andros. There does seem to be a small percentage of Andros truth to be accurate.

R362 I am not sure there is anything in here about Andros, besides the statement of GM angel, that is from Andros. But as said, I don´t see any reason why Andros would make this more official then it is, he has everything to lose if he did and I am sure that might be a reason for keeping his mouth shut about it, or plain decency, who knows, but it is easy to believe he would have sold it to some tabloid as it is a scoop that would have given him a fortune, if he didn´t have a good reason not to. What he has done so far doesn´t point at it being from caring about GMs wish to keep it private, but rather about being sure he won't miss out on any bigger money or maybe he already has been paid to shut it, but maybe when that is done. Right now I see a lot of reasons for him to try to keep it hidden as much as possible. And there is also highly likely that GM made sure Andros didn´t know, it is a very sensitive thing that could cause a lot of consequences if it got out and GM wanted it to stay private, making it very probably that GM made sure Andros never knew, knowing about GM not trusting Andros.

This would have been the ultimate trust, if GM allowed Andros to know about it. That would change a lot about the known part of GM and Andros relation if Andros actually knew about GM, Alpha and their son.

I thought GM wrote ‘Amazinhg’ for Kenny? Is that not the case.

*Amazing

When George was the Godfather to Andros son George had stated he loved kids and thought he would be a father. Of course, this is prior to GM coming out as a gay man. GM really enjoyed children. I have seen clippings of videos of GM when he was younger interacting with children. He loved Christmas time and buying for children. I understand why he felt his lifestyle wouldn’t include children. He would have had to be responsible in his private life and nor reckless and carefree. I still feel his mother kept GM grounded. Had she lived his life would have had more structure. I could be way off on my assumptions.

The web site links pertaining to the woman are no longer available. Why or who would be responsible for removing the data? Sorry I have so many questions. A part of me wants to believe and another part is very doubtful.

Fan fiction going strong apparently.

R367 I believe it is locked, if you follow her you can see her page. Twitter, Alpha or @TheOnlyMrsGKP

Facebook the same thing and name Dinkiez Alpha or TheOnlyMrsGKP

R364 Amazing, GM had several different things and times in mind including both Kenny and Alpha when he wrote the song, but he could obviously not be dedicated to both for obvious reasons. But look at the lyrics.

Correction, IT could not be dedicated to both, not he.

R366 I agree he loved children and I am sure he was a great dad. I can also understand that it would be a natural decision for GM to keep his son a secret to the public, we know how GM feelt about the constant attention, tabloids and fans breaking every possible bit of his privacy including his home, all that comes with the fame, so that he made the decision to keep his son away from that, and give him the freedom GM couldn´t have is the most probable thing I can imagine he would do, he was surely responsible in that matter, the recklessness, but I doubt carefree, was probably caused by him living the life he did never free and made sure to protect his son from. But I do think Alpha and the son is the reason why he did try to straighten up.

Well to me he looks interested...

Better quality

WTF......this thread is a crock of shit ! George Michael is papped with women , Oh the horror & shock 😂...& he allegedly has a son 🤣🤣🤣

George Michael 'wanted to start a family in 2017' as he felt 'incomplete' before his death

GEORGE MICHAEL was planning on starting a family in the new year and wanted to adopt or use a surrogate, according to reports.

By LAUREN MEECHAN PUBLISHED: 09:40, Fri, Dec 30, 2016 | UPDATED: 11:10, Fri, Dec 30, 2016 t George Michael 'dreamed of becoming a father'. But, prior to his shock death, sources close to the star said the Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go hitmaker had set his sights set on becoming a father in 2017, which would have been a “dream” come true. A family insider claimed he was desperate to follow in the footsteps of his long-term friend Sir Elton John, 69, who has two sons Elijah and Zachary with his partner David Furnish thanks to a surrogate. A source told the Daily Star: “George’s dream was to be a father. He wanted to adopt or use a surrogate. To start a family was on his to-do list for 2017.”

The insider continued: “To not have his own family, he felt incomplete.

“It was a missing link he craved. George always wanted to be a father, he wished his mother were alive to see the day.”

Sir Elton and David were believed to have supported the singer on his dream of becoming a dad. “When Elton took the step he [George] knew he too had at last moved into that part of his life,” the source added.

The insider also revealed George felt his career “made him too selfish” to be committed to being a parent and wouldn’t allow his children becoming “chequebook babies” being brought up in a showbiz world. The Careless Whisperer chart topper allegedly told friends he wanted to have a big family due to his Greek heritage and reportedly told close friend former Spice Girl Geri Horner, that he wanted to start a family.

R376 LOL!! Apparently he was a gay man in public but a in "the closet straight man". Never heard of that before. Remember George said that after I came out as a gay man my life became harder. Maybe this was why. He was actually hiding the fact he was straight/bi and had a woman in his life while HAVING to pretend he was gay

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[R379] George looks happy enough but not sure what is wrong with lady.

Hopefully this will bring the focus on George Michael’s incredible talent.

^"Massive Gay himself" mentioned in the article. Delusional idiots in this thread take note and have some respect for the man

An oldie but goodie.

If GM had a son I can understand why he would want to protect him from the media. The media was never GM’s friend. However, I can’t imagine GM not wanting to be involved in his life in some way while the boy grew up. Maybe at some point after GM’s estate gets settled and if it becomes public knowledge we will know more. If GM’s sisters are aware of the situation I give them a lot of credit trying to honor George’s truth.

R384 I never saw anything that suggests GM would not have been a part of his sons' life, I think he was, didn´t someone say something about that some time ago.

^ George Michael had no wife and no son to be part of their lives. Just stop propagating this utterly false nonsense.

Did this rumor about GM having a son ever circulat when he was alive?

*circulate

^ Noooooooooooooooooo. Never. It is total rubbish

George performed in the USA at the finale of American Idol. It was right before he kicked off his American Tour. I hope he realized that night how much his fans in the states really loved him. He had a terrible cold, however, he still had the audience eating out of his hand.

ALPHA @TheOnlyMrsGKP

This has never been more appropriate. 😎

^ yeah yeah shutup already bloody fake ALPHA. you did not even come within 1000 miles of GM and creating fake fan fiction stories and posting all these lectures to other people. LEAVE THE MAN ALONE ALL OF YOU. Let the man rest in peace

R387 Yes defenately! The rumour of George and this woman, Alpha, started with the two photos taken of them together in 1997. But I am not sure their son has been known of, I believe they kept him well protected. If you knew George as you clamed previous you would know this for sure.

R392 Read all your many comments, WHY are you in this tread, you can't cope with the topic and it will continue as it have since 1997, and it's obvious you don't know anything about it, do everyone a favour and go away, you are simply annoying, giving wrong information and completely hysterical.

R393 I asked a question in 387 but I did not know George Michael. You must be referring to another poster.

R394 If that's the case I apologise.

Has this thread been infested by a few menopause women with no lives of their own, that are lost in delusional crushes on the popstar George Michael, behaving like jealous 13 years old girls, forgetting there is a real man behind with a real life, including whatever he choosed to be in it.

The best comment in this thread is Alphas own words, even if she hasn't commented in here herself R340 are some true words that you should read instead of focusing on being jealous and poison this thread too. Grow up.

Respect George is a nice saying, it's time to show it.

You, who are not in this tread to have nice constructive discussions about it's topic, go elsewhere.

who is the delusional menopausal fool creating fake stories? Anyway nobody sane is even going to visit this thread. Have it to yourself and keep making fan fic stories and talking to yourself

R397 Who? It is obvious it´s you. Do everybody a favour and go away.

George Michael’s is the ultimate fate of the bisexual. Everyone else thinks they get to decide for you who you *really* are. No matter how beautifully you love and honestly express that love, you’ll eventually die alone of a broken heart. #Reminder

George Michael was a gay man who *used* to identify as bisexual, before coming out as exclusively gay. Please don't erase his experiences like this and label him something he's said was unhealthy for him to identify as.

I'd like to know a specific source because in his own words, George Michael describes himself as a emotionally a gay man because he prefers to be coupled with a man but that he has and absolutely would sleep with women again. That's a bisexual whether you like it or not.

George Michael’s sentiments suggest that he was, in terms of attraction and sexual behavior, bisexual. Yet, emotionally, he was more drawn to men. Moreover, the AIDS crisis — wherein bisexual men became highly stigmatized as conduits for disease — prompted him to stop having relationships with women.

R400 do not post here and feed this troll. this is a headcase beyond help. let him/her keep building the fan fic that George was bisexual and had a relationship with a woman and had a son etc. George himself so clearly stated what he was in 1998. There is nothing about his behavior that suggests otherwise. What is even the use of arguing about his sexuality when the man is dead. Dont respond and dont feed the troll. It will go away

R403 To keep this going since 1997 would take several generations of troll, give it up, information that sticks that long and is known by lots of different people, has every bit of what defines that it is true!

It's annoying to see some so clearly haven't got a clue what the reality of being bisexual is. Must say both R194 and R317 give some good insight.

This is not about George having sex with Alpha, it is about the fact he had love and something good in his life. Now we can add with someone seemingly loving him and not his wealth that he could trust, Alpha is the only one who hasn't talked or shown interests to his money, have you seen that.

Add no interest in fame but asking for privacy and standing up telling people to respect George the way he wanted to be remembered.

Noone else has done that.

Alpha @TheOnlyMrsGKP

It doesn´t take much intelligence to already know this. 😎

R397 So you are not sane? We suspected that already but thanks for telling.

R399, R401, R402, R404, R405 Agree to much of your thoughts. It is sad people hasn´t a bigger clue to what bisexual means in real life. But that clearly indicate that R396 is on to something.

About Alpha, I still think if you look at her as R404 and R405 suggests, the only reason that some have a big problem with GM being with her, is pure jealousy, there is no other reason why anyone shouldn´t be happy that he had someone like that in his life, that is the main thing and by not having any delusional fantasies about GM make me be grateful for it, not jealous and hateful like some insane person.

Nothing of this makes GM straight, no one has ever suggested that, but sexuality is a different thing to different people and takes different solutions, we know nothing about how they lived and what arrangements were made, Alpha has 3 gold rings at her Twitter, maybe suggesting she gave GM the freedom to be a fully satisfied bisexual? Why so important to label their sexual preferences? Have you any idea how many bisexual who officially identifies as gay or possibly straight to avoid the stigma and bullying of bisexuals, GM already tried to be honest about it, but found out what it really means a long time ago, you are not accepted by eighter gay or straight people, no one trust you or want a relationship with you knowing they can only give you half of what you need and you may stray, unless you do find someone rare who is willing to give the freedom to be satisfied, that is unlikely but seems like GM was blessed with, you are doomed to live unsatisfied and judged, how hard is it to understand why many choose a white instead of all that judgement, like GM.

The rings.

George Michael was a homoromantic bisexual

Who's Alpha and what s/he has done?

R408 Ffs the triband cartier ring belonged to Anselmo and was given to George by Anselmo's mother after the funeral. He told this on twitter. Or do you think this was made up to hide his bisexuality or whatever. The story of this little "accident" seemed possible in the beginning, but meanwhile it became a weird and very sick story made up by someone who has real mental health issues. Do yourself a favour and seek help. Grief counselling may be good for you or better a psychatric clinic and some meds. Think about what you do to his family. All this insane people who contact them to find out if this is for real... Gosh!

And don't you dare to ask me what I'm doing in this thread...

Here is George's interview and it will answer some of these question. I know some will ignore this or pretend not see it, but is here to help with your quest of George's sexuality in 2011. Enjoy.

R412 dont drive yourself nuts dealing with this fantasist. just not worth it. let them talk their nonsense about sexuality and "homoromantic bisexual" crap until he/she is blue in the face and then shutup and go away.

R408 (R411) Was the pic on Twitter, nothing more. It is unbelievable how hard some has to comprehend things, and ways outside their own little world, the only right way is what each and everyone decides for themselves, not what you or anyone else decide for them.

A lot of different DLs, not only me, has told you, and the likes of you, to go away if you don´t like this thread or are ready to go outside your own limited mind. It is obvious you are not a DLr, then you would know this is not something strange, as it is to you, you are not only condemning GM and his ways, you condemn a lot of real DLs too, go to a forum suited for our kind and get lost with your nonacceptance of people's right to their own sexual preferences and ways to live.

R415 you are a nutcase but have to salute your relentless pursuit of this totally fake story. lighten up. GM didnt give a shit about delusional fools like you when he was alive. Little would he care now

The truth is that no one knows what happened after 1997, a lot of speculating by jealous lovelies are not fact, it is embarrassing and I agree, a shame towards the ones who fought hard to find acceptance, it is such prejudice and I think they should go away. About George, it is all in this thread and they are still unable to get it, would say there is no hope for them to ever develop or know the truth. You want to shut it, start with yourself.

This is the words if George himself and he could just as well been talking about him being with Alpha, that could surely give him all those feelings and the best sex on earth.

I was being furtive and was worried about being found out... God! It was such a turn-on. I can never be that turned-on again. Guilt is a massive turn-on. Dying of shame about it.

I was so ashamed but I was turned on by the fact that I was putting myself in such a stupid situation. The compulsion to do something stupid.

I wish to God I still could get that excited about it! [laughing] Don't knock a bit of quilt. Catholics have the best sex on earth, I'm told.

One of the things about having a secret sex life for so long is that I think it helped me keep my feet on the ground. Because I was constantly in contact with people that I had a shared secret with, well, that was totally levelling. And it meant that I was constantly meeting ordinary people. How else would I have done that, in a weird way? And be on their level? Because at the end of the day you both want the same thing out of it. Sex is very levelling.

R418 You´re right. He was very eager to keep their relationship a secret, if that wouldn´t give him the thrill he thrived for, then what would.

R418 Twisting words at a very high level. GM was talking about cruising for sex and now the words are supposed to be about a secret affair with a woman. This is now becoming very funny. Carry on.

An article concerning George Michael.

George Michael’s Sexuality Was … Complicated

Unbelievable!

Would love to know what George would think of Fadi’s behavior since his death.

R424 interesting enough the above article that has appeared in pagesix.com was reported in the states.

I don’t recall him ever identifying as bisexual? Since when does having sex define your sexual orientation? Plenty of gay men have married women and had sex and kids with them…. same goes for lesbians.

I think it is obvious who kicked him to life in 1997, Alpha. It fits perfectly.

R427 Makes perfect sense, I agree.

A recent picture of Alpha

^Did George Michael visit her from the grave? Photoshopped nonsense

You haven´t been catching up?

The GM and Alpha story has been confirmed to be all true by several people around GM, but as you are not anyone close, they are not talking to you, and you don´t know the facts. They seem to want it that way.

I and most fans, admitting it or not, would like to know more about their relationship, but it seems like she won't talk, I don´t know, but I think some must have tried to get that huge scoop by now.

I think the picture is emotional and it is not many who looks like that at her age, no wonder some women get embarrassingly jealous and that for some real reasons.

Don't feed the delusional, Photoshopping trolls.

R432 That is right. What a nutter this bloody Alpha story troll is. Several people around GM have confirmed it. LOL!!

R432/433 I guess you learned that sentence in DL, it is tedious and overused.

I have no problem with recognising the fact that GM and Alpha, in fact, had this steamy relationship for all those years, it is confirmed since quite a while now by several different people very close to GM, so how is a fan to tell the opposite solely because you don´t want it to be true because it wasn´t you?

But don´t be to upset, Alpha is supposed to have been the only woman he had, he was gay for the rest, with one special extra need as I have heard it, and that was solely her. No big deal, it was his needs and decision how to be happy, it is only for us to accept and be happy he knew what he wanted and got it.

It is telling that you didn´t know this, making me think you are one of the fans who lost touch with reality about being a fan of a pop star they didn´t know, exactly, didn´t know, and those are not the ones who get to know this kind of information from the ones that really knew GM. Denying facts and being delusional is only a fitting description of you, to recognise the fact, whether like it or not, is the reality.

And photoshopping comments is only a sad excuse for lack of anything else to discredit with, it is so obvious and also overused and tedious. This way we can get to see some visual expression of their relationship, without Alpha giving you anything real to shred, I am sure she knows you wouldn´t be able to handle the real deal by now. I like it, and if you look closely, she was given those by a friend of hers who made them for her. That it is Photoshopped is obvious enough for anyone to not even consider being stupid enough to think it would be an attempt to anything else, like you did, I bet you like a lot of fans have Photoshopped pictures all over your walls hoping it won´t show, but it does. The difference is that if Alpha wanted to put real photos of the two of them out there, I am sure she could in a minute, but she doesn´t talk or show, stays loyal to GM, wish speaks volumes about their love, so I doubt she has any need to do that, she had it for real, unlike you and your likes, why would she bother what you think.

And I am sure you would like to know all about it if you only had the judgemént to accept the facts and actually cared for GM at all, then this would be a good thing, you would accept this was his choice and it gave him happiness in his life. You know he kept a lot of his life completely hidden from the world and often told things the way he wanted you to believe them and at the same time keeping a lot to himself, the relationship with Alpha and the son shouldn't be a suprice to anyone, how much does any fan know what he really really did when he was out of sight for such long periods, and she is the perfect image of what he liked, the only strange thing is how some delusional can lie to themselves enough to deny it, that, has no connection to reality.

And stop this, you know GM would really have had a problem with your response and aggressions about it, he closed the forum for way less because of fighting fans. But you don´t care about what he would think about your behaviour, do you.

Let´s be happy about the positive things in GM life instead of dissecting him. Show the man some respect and remember GM as he wanted and deserves to be remembered.

GM had an affair with this woman Alpha and had his son. Nobody except delusional trolls like you believe it. Even if he had so bloody what. It didnt stop him dying a recluse and drug-addled mess surrounded by escorts and porn stars. What the hell was she doing as he circled the drain and was living this messy life, this so-called stupid love of his life.

Hold on, you are cocky hiding behind your screen, how about you take a picture of yourself right now and put it in here and show us the actual proof that you are not just a pathetic well past best days, fanatic lacking a life of your own that can´t see the difference between your fantasy and the facts of reality.

I have read all about GM and Alpha, I get some funny thoughts, how incredibly much alike they were, kind, funny, intelligent, determined, stubborn, same sex drives, on and on, that would make for a very interesting story to know more about, I agree. And I know almost everyone else does too, even if some wouldn´t admit it they would be the first to buy the papers, worldwide.

Tons of different people have talked about their relationship and confirmed it thru the years, some seen them together. That the persons who knew GM have confirmed the relationship between GM and Alpha since long is well known.

If you are going to claim you know better if GM and Alpha had the relationship, then show the proof that all those people and the once close to GM that actually knew him, is lying or wrong, show us, because it is proven to be true, if you say that is wrong, then prove your right to question those people and accuse them to be liars!

To me, it feels good to know he had real love in his life, and it makes perfect sense in every detail like many before I have stated.

If it is "so what" to you, then what are you doing in here, if not to know more.

R436 'Tons of different people have talked about their relationship and confirmed it thru the years, some seen them together. That the persons who knew GM have confirmed the relationship between GM and Alpha since long is well known.'

WHO exactly confirmed the relationship or talked about it? Where was it written? Answer these questions and don't tell us we can google it. Show us your sources.

R437 This troll R436 who keeps calling us names thinks that if the same lie is repeated 1000s of times it will become the truth. There is not a single source or news story or real photo to confirm this complete and utter nonsense. GM was closely followed and watched by the tabloid press forever. How the hell was it geographically possible to conduct a torrid love affair with a woman living in the Swedish mountains when he was living in London all the time. The man was gay for fucks sake and had no reason to cover up some beautiful love affair and a son. Using a dead man's image illegally to photoshop and create some false narrative is downright despicable. Dont lecture us about how we should talk about and be fans of GM. ATleast we are not delusional liars like you R436 People like you will rot in hell for sure.

R438 And what do you think is the most wanted by the tabloids, genuine pictures of them to be able to write without anyone talking, no wonder Alpha won´t release any of those, she has proven to be the only one standing up for GM, intelligent, determined and stubborn... in her actions so far, but she obviously knows a thing or two thru being with GM for so long, protecting it all that time and still manage to keep this from the tabloids, that is no fool, and very possible to do.

But it takes a fool to think Alpha has wings for real or GM ghost will be in a picture, especially when she clearly stated together with that kind of pictures that they were made by a friend. Drop it, she never claimed anything else and you know it.

Now you are acting like a fool, what you do when it comes to GM and Alpha is the single most stupid thing I ever saw, and I have read it all, you are the tiny group of aggressive Lovelies that is the worst shame of all GM fans, real Lovelies and who make people feel sorry for him, there are no excuses for it, just accept the reality and act like normal fans. It is GM legacy, his family, his closest and the real fans who get to suffer for it.

Chill out, you don´t know for sure, do you, then let everyone have their opinion, until you do know. You can have yours. but it will embarrass you in time. And take a friendly suggestion, spend less time in DL, and get a life, it might give you the right distance to it, it will be good for you.

R439 You did'nt answer the question for sources. If it's that easy where are your proofs? WHO confirmed the story? Apparently you should take your own advice and spend less time with 'fanfictioning' and fabricating these crap stories about GM. He would be terryfied by people like you. I guess it would be your best interest to seek professional help. You are sick and really need help. Please do something.

'didn't' , of course.

R400 R441 You missed R436 , the reply before yours, everything you write is old. Stop pestering every thread in DL. What are you doing in this thread anyway if you think it is all BS, then leave it to the ones who like it, move on to something that works with your fantasies instead of only trying to ruin the treads for others who wants to learn more about who GM was, for real. It is not like he is accused of any horrific things in this thread. There are a lot of threads from when GM was alive doing just that in the archive. There are fantasy threads with lots of pictures and denial in many more suitable places for you to be than a Gay gossip forum. If you don´t like those places, then don´t try to move your BS in here. Realise when no one wants you.

R440 as above, not 400. You prove you miss out on a lot, do your friends leave you behind about what is happening because they realise you can´t handle it like a decent fan, or is it just your age? You have missed out on much, you clearly don´t know what has happened regarding this and you keep miss out on the parts of this thread you don´t like. I think a lot of people are going behind your back, that is the only explanation to how you could have missed out on that much, I understand they would do that, because you proved you don´t deal with facts that don´t fit your fantasy in a way a grown-up is supposed to, no one wants to be connected to that. Don´t miss that you are only a fan of a deceased pop star you didn´t know, and nothing more, take it down to a suitable level to that would be a very good idea for you.

R440 Stop trying to make this thread about you by posting nasty crap in between every other poster, it is not about you.

R442, R443, R444 and all the other replies you wrote before. Oh frau, obvs. this is what happens when someone is asking you for sources as I did in R437. You didn't answer my questions. All you do is badmouthing people who are asking for your answers. I have to admit at the beginning your story had something plausible. But meanwhile you became over eager to place this Alpha lady as GM's one and only love and you contradict yourself during the story. You even insinuated GM was a closeted heterosexual... It was all a bit too much. I am now sure you are suffering from delusional disorder. Maybe you think you are this Swedish woman and what was a fantasy once for masturbation turned into total delusion. You know nothing. That is fact. You are a fanatic in the worst sense of the word. If you'd tell the truth you would be less offensive to people. You are right in one point: I really don't know why I am wasting my time with your absurdities. So I better leave this thread. And I really hope anyone with half a brain will do the same.

R445 You are in way worse state then I realised. Your thoughts haven´t even occurred to me. I will not be the one to give you any proof of the kind the ones who know you have decided not to, I am now sure they have a good reason for keeping it from you. It is good you are leaving this thread, I wish you all luck.

R446 Did the Alpha do GHB too? Give it a rest you deluded moron. This is so far from the truth of the life a tormented George Michael lived. Just go back under your rock and stop posting fan fiction

R447 So you are believing FF words to the last dot...not surprising, you only put the spotlight to your total lack of judgement. What are you doing in this thread all the time? You have to be very interested! Have the ones in FF saga had enough of you too?

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George Michael has a love child says Swedish woman Ulrika Lillemor Alfa Wonwolf

How is it even possible to believe a Brittish tabloid, like the Star, who was the first publishing this article. THEY claim, ' Woman claims George Michael fathered lovechild with her in 1997" and a bit further down sneaking in " A SOURCE SAID: " She is claiming... At the very bottom of the article you find: ULRIKA DECLINED TO COMMENT ON HER PRIVATE LIFE...

Have anyone read it? I don't doubt that it is possible, even likely it happened, but I don't give a dime for the tabloid version, I would like to hear what she has to say. No smoke without fire. Not this much. But she doesn't seem to have any intention to talk, like the the rest of GM family.

Daily Star

Not unusual.

Found this in another thread about GM Swedish woman, called A woman from Sweden said that he had... Copy of the text.

Some guy emailed me several years back, claiming to be my brother.

I avoided opening the attachment all day, (which was a picture of him), because somehow, I knew it was true.

So I waited until I got home, and sat with my now ex, in our dining room, and finally opened the photo.

He was THE spitting image of my father.

So yeah, this does happen.

—Anonymous

I heard a song today that has some very interesting lyrics written by GM, who told a lot in his lyrics, and it made me think, it was released 2009, that is when everything in his life supposedly was the same, except for what has been discussed in this thread, something happened to him in 2007, and according to what's been said, it must have been something with his Swedish woman, now look at this lyrics, marked with *, like **Maybe since you've gone I went a little crazy God knows they can see the child**

December Song (I Dreamed Of Christmas) George Michael Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas

*May your every New Year dream come true*

Sweet December song The melody that saved me

*On those less than Silent Nights*

When snow would fall upon my bed Like sugar from Jesus

**And take me to the day She could always smile The Virgin Child would always show you see Just to save me (just to save me) There was always Christmas time To wipe the year away*

I guess that Mum and Dad decided That the war would have to wait There was always Christmas time Jesus came to stay I could believe in peace on Earth And I could watch TV all day So I dreamed of Christmas

**Maybe since you've gone I went a little crazy God knows they can see the child**

But the snow that falls upon my bed

*That loving I needed Falls every single day For each and every child*

The Virgin smiles for all to see

**But you kept her from me There was always Christmas time To wipe the year away*

I guess that Mum and Dad decided That the war would have to wait There was always Christmas time Jesus came to stay I could believe in peace on Earth And I could watch TV all day

*So I dreamed of Christmas Yes, I dreamed like you*

Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas

*May your every New Year dream come true*

Since you've gone i went a little crazy......that's about his Mum !

R456 That doesn't fit the time when he wrote it, but it fits the time for his Swedish woman perfect, nothing else works for that time or the lyrics, like the next sentence: Maybe since you've gone I went a little crazy God knows they can see the child

R457 I agree .

George Michael in his early twenties.

R459 That could just as well be the love child, the resemblance is striking.

[bold] 457 You talk utter rubbish!!! Always trying to refer anything and everything to the made-up Swedish woman, even agreeing with yourself. You're a nutter! Lesley passed away 1997 the time period of George going a little crazy and going off the rails is from that point onwards. December song was written 2008/2009. Who ever you are (probably THE Swedish crazy woman), you clearly are no fan, as your information is often incorrect and ridiculous.

R461 You are making harsh judgements and spread false rumours based on the lies created and spread by the likes of you in social media, the fact is that you don´t know anything, using some specific social media and tabloids like encyclopedia and actually believe it, says much more about you then the persons targeted in the lies you are spreading. You don't have a clue what is true!

Look at yourself, your behaviour is despicable and inappropriate. You barfed a lot in what you wrote, but how do you get this together? First, you wrote the pure lie directed to both GM and The woman: ' the made-up Swedish woman' Then you claim I am the, as you said. made-up woman, now made-up AND crazy... 'Whoever you are (probably THE Swedish crazy woman)' Now, who´s crazy, everyone born with another native language than English, and there are a few, are NOT the woman, that is stupid beyond words to hide behind.

No one is buying your trash talking, all facts are there and you passed the line for a 'fan' long ago. You didn´t say a word about the part -God knows they can see the child – can´t imagine why...

Get a realistic view of yourself and the fact you are out of your garden, you claim to know the life and everything else about someone who didn´t even knew you existed, like GM or The woman, the same thing, you don´t know anything about eighter of them to make any such statements.

Believe what you want, but you are not at war with everyone who has a different opinion than yours. Would you treat someone like that eye to eye or only when hidden... You don´t like it, just leave this thread.

Whatever! I didn't think I needed to even go on as far as explaining 'seeing the child' but seeing that you made a point about that one I will. "I went a little crazy God knows they can see the child." Meaning he went of the rails after his Mum died., still a child at heart needing his Mum, everyone needs a Mum.

We can all tell which messages are written by you. I will admit I fell for your initial revelation, however it didn't take long to work out it's all a big fantasy. Not one thing you have said has been real yet alone accurate. I called you a nutter because I question your mentality. You are the only one that goes on and on about this and none of us buy your theories any more. She/you (who knows who cares) have been called out by many fans, some of which were desperate for this to be true, to know that George left a little something of himself behind. Your theories have been blown apart and now it's BORING.

R463 You are completely narrowminded, you wouldn't even recognise a dump truck driving thru a nitroglycerin plant if it wasn't in your narrow view it should be there, it's sad to realise the limitations of your view is set by some social media and tabloids. You miss out on more than a few things with your attitude. You think its boring, then don't bother, I don't care what you think anyway, I lean on an entirely different source for information than you. I believe we can agree to disagree about this without further discussion, I'm not interested in your self proclaimed so-called information, I could get that in any tabloid if I was.

Absolutely agree to disagree without further discussion, but I will just say one more thing. Don't stupidly assume my views are from social media and tabloids, that couldn't be further from the truth. You have no idea just who I am or my connections.

I was sure I saw George Michael yesterday, together with the woman, and I can now tell you whoever doubted that story, you have your heads showed up your asses to deep to see anything, you sure haven´t seen them, if you only had. I saw his son, they look just the same, I admit I got the shakes but I managed to secretly take a picture when passing by, while they were busy having a laugh. I have to talk to a friend who is a reporter how the lies spread before could be published and why. I am still in chock by seeing George Jr, and Georges woman, she is very beautiful, and he does look like George, you can´t miss it.

R466 It must have felt like getting close to a bit of GM, it gives you hope. Thanks for sharing. Do I need to say I would be curious to see the picture if it's alright. Where was it, it's fine if you're not comfortable saying though, maybe it's for the best.

There are so many people, during the significant time of years, that have given different versions of the same description, that's not by chance, but how the truth shows itself.

R467 Alright, but the picture is really bad and shoot in a bad angle, I snapped it secretly when passing them, and you are right, it felt like what it was, like getting close to a piece of George Michael and his life.

George and George Jr Johan

R470 OMG!!! I got tears in my eyes and hope in my heart, thank you!

My thoughts are with his son and woman at Christmas, it must be a difficult time.

R472 If anyone should be in our thoughts now it has to be his son, and the woman he decided to make the mum.

Really?

If the so called story was true that George Michael had a son it would have been confirmed by now. Wishful thinking doesn’t make your dreams come true. Doesn’t look as if George Michael’s bloodline will continue even with his sisters.

I finally spoke to my friend who is a reporter, I struck gold, she has a friend at one of the papers who ran the false version of the story, about GM, the woman and the son. He had some interesting information about it, these are facts from one that knows what happened, one of the involved, this is what he said. Its all of the books and only mentioned to my friend, but it gives some valuable insights into what some nutters rely on as fact and authority to spread lies and insults.

The reason for publishing an article based on a few facts but mostly built on lies, to purposely target some specific individuals, is what some less credible papers or reporters might do when a person refuses to talk or give them what they want and it is about a major story, like this one. The goal for the paper is to make such damage to and upset the person enough to make them come forward and defend themselves and the ones involved by setting the faulty information right, meaning, they get them to TALK and the papers get their major story. That is the reason for why it was published and the level of truth to it or more the lack of truth to it.

He also said that several papers had during a long time tried to get the woman to talk, by persistence, a HUGE amount of money, six figures in pounds, stalking, but nothing has made her give them what they want. And publishing that consciously made up lies about the story between her and GM failed too, talk about loyal. She is the only one that has proven not to be for sale or any interested in fame, and not being in it for the megastar, limelight or money, only for George. She had since 1997 to do otherwise if she wanted to. It is not too far a stretch to say it's obvious who told her how to stand her ground.

One of the papers had, in a shady way, bribe or something, got hold of a copy of a genuine DNA test showing strong favour of paternity 99,99..., performed by a highly respected laboratory in the UK. When the lab was approached by other papers the test was confirmed but protected by secrecy laws. The woman was asked for permissions for the papers to access the information, but she denied every time. The shady way it was obtained by the paper and her refusal to give them permission to any access is why the papers could not officially confirm the test.

The papers knew the so-called family member referred to would not be able to confirm anything about it for several reasons, that was only used to provide a false sense of truth to the public, who the tabloids know well is surprisingly sure George Michael, as a grown man told his father and sisters about everyone he slept with, or even more, someone he actually loved, he didn´t tell them about Anselmo eighter, he seems to have kept his true loves to himself, and the papers used it all in order to achieve the real purpose of the lies. To get her to come forward and give them their story.

To use some well-chosen phrase about George Michaels sexual preferences gave some extra points, they know that for each one, you can find several where he claims differently, it is all about their desire how to angle it to fit their purposes, like they also know GM never would have told the full truth about his sex life to tabloids or complete strangers, who would, he didn't say a word about it until he was forced to, he never gave more then he had to about it, same things over and over, but nothing more, and even that was too much for a lot of people to accept, to think he would ever be considering telling more, or everything about it, is calling him stupid.

At the end of the original article, removed in every other paper that followed, at the very bottom of the paper claiming over and over that the woman says... it clearly stated -The woman does not comment on her private life.

This was a sad attempt by the tabloids to treat the woman and the son as bad as they treated GM while he was alive. Let us be wiser and show it in the New Year.

I just can't. The poor son. He must be heartbroken that dear old dad left him nothing in the will.

That confirms a lot, I know I saw long ago that the woman had said she never took any money from GM, that their relationship was all about true love. And what do we know of what they decided about how to handle the situation, nothing. It's not very difficult to realize why they keep this private and why would they confirm anything to anyone else, that doesn't sound like them at all.

There are plenty of ways to secure the son financially, GM probably made arrangements a long time ago in a way suitable to their desire to keep this private. If that would be done in his will, have you thought about how that would destroy GMs wishes for his son's life.

Except he doesn't have a son so there's that.

R480 Spending New Year in here... denying the picture above and the facts stated by the ones who actually know real facts or have seen them live, you have neither of that.

Just curious did George’s son inherit his musical talent?

R482 Based on the company they were in when I saw them I would think that is very likely, they were in a known music spot, next to a venue that will give a tribute to GM, and accompanied by two Internationally leading music profiles involved in lots of big names, my conclusion is that there are big hopes for the possibility of a piece of GM in the future.

^^^ What music spot? What internationally known profiles? What company were they in? You are so full of shit. You are either totally trolling or your imaginary friends are waiting at home for you at the tea party table. Obsessiveness can be alleviated you know, whatever category you've fallen into.

R484 I'm sure you know a lot... about imaginary friends, that is the same ones you spent New Year with right, a tea party today was it... then take a cookie too and ask your imaginary friends to explain to you why I don't give away the spot or expose the people, when there are the kinds of you in here. And be grateful for as long as they stay... with that attitude of yours they are likely the only ones.

George's son is a cutie but he's a little fat

R486 He is very cute! GM and his family have always struggled with weight, but I don't think it is much at all, he grows out of it.

And who knows if he loses the weight or not because he's not related to any of them.

R488 Get some glasses, you obviously need them, not the least to look at yourself, but to avoid missing out on facts and making a joke of yourself like you are doing now, there are limits to how far you can keep ignoring facts before only looking stupid. What makes you believe you know, that's delusional, you don't.

Copied from George Michael’s interview with Chris Evans 1996, not long before 1997... Interesting.

About sexuality So for the sake of people that I never speak to I really don’t feel any desire to define myself, because I, I’ll tell you what I really believe. I believe that we all sit, look at each other and we all, I think every human being constantly questions themselves. Questions their own position, whether it be their race, their religion, their sexuality, their looks, you know, we all question ourselves, and use other people to define ourselves. I think that one of the things that is so difficult in the modern world to actually accept, is that sexuality is a really, really blurry thing I know lots and lots of people who I thought were of one sexual persuasion, but they turned out to either be the other, or sometimes to be the other, so that, whatever.

All I know, is that I have never, never regarded my sexuality as a moral question, of any description. Or anyone’s sexuality as a moral question, other than when it is some kind of twisted sexuality that involves people that do not give their consent, you know. But I, personally, have never thought that would be wrong, that would be right, that’s what I should do. I think, most people do regard their sexuality as a moral question, and I think that they look to one another to reinforce their ideas of themselves. In other words, if somebody looks at me, and says, “I think he’s gay”, and then next week, I make a statement saying, “I am gay”, right, that guy, feels a little bit more secure, in the fact that he knew, that that was my sexuality. Whether he was right or wrong, do you know whether I’m telling the truth or not

And, one of the ways that they reinforce their own idea of their own sexuality, whatever it may be, is to tell themselves that they can spot it in other people, and that they can spot people who are of different sexual persuasions, right, and that’s why, you get a huge debate, about somebody like me.

That’s what I mean. It is literally as simple as that. I’m right, I know who he is, because I know who I am. I know his sexuality because I know mine. Now, I have got absolutely no desire, to be that for people. Do you know what I mean? I’ve got no desire to stand up and define myself to a whole bunch of people

I’ve got a real problem, with this constant need for definition.

And about the press George: It really is, honestly, to a degree that I’m really glad of because it now even amazes me the things they can write about me and I totally forget or I just .. It really is a separate character that they’re writing about as far as I’m concerned and I’m perfectly happy with that and myself I’m not offended by anything they write anymore. I get offended by things they may write that will include other people. I think sometimes friends and family have been caught in the crossfire a bit, but, other than that I really don’t care. They can write what they want about me really.

^^^ Like those writing that he has a son. George would say they are writing about a separate character as far as he is concerned but he doesn't like his friends and family hurt and that's what these mentally ill posters continue to do when they lie about him having a son. Beyond sane when one is this sick and obsessed about a stranger. Why anyone would want to seek fame with these crazies about is beyond comprehension. Talent is a curse.

DL hates non Gold star gays

R491 You really are simply a moron, GM would be furious about your way of talking about HIS family, are you stupid enough not to realize HIS SON and HIS WOMAN is very much a part of his family, wow! Accept the facts, he had a part he didn't share with strangers, and that part has a woman and their son.

You are the only one talking of seeking fame, it has nothing to do with them, they are the ones who made it their lives work to stay private. Don't you realize the difference, his true loves and family are not for sale or talking, Alfa, Johan, Father, Sisters, Anselmo, not a word, this should make it very obvious even to you what is real and what is not, it is the other ones that have proven themselves to be in it for fame and money. Fadi, Kenny, Andros, Australians and so on.

GM didn't approve to be labelled, he didn't like it, did you miss out on that part.

R491 GM didn't approve to be labelled, he didn't like it, did you miss out on that part.

Can you think of any reason why...same as he said sexuality is a very blurry thing perhaps.

George is dead and buried. If there was merit to George having a son there isn’t one good reason why his family wouldn’t share such wonderful news. They would still have a part of George in their lives. It would bring them happiness in a very dismal time in their lives.

R495 Why would they go past GMs wishes and tell the world about it when he so clearly didn't want to and they haven't said anything about anything else, you know they would have them in their lives anyway, no matter if you know or not, overestimate your importance much... And the fact is GM didn't tell them about his other love Anselmo, or a lot of things, so why to be sure he told them this.

IT IS wonderful news! Everybody who cares for GM for real, or respect him, has been treating it like that all along.

For all the David Austin haters out there.

Wasn't it in a 2004 interview with m-tv where GM said he don't want to have children of his own? And didn't he said a similar thing in one of his interviews pre Symphonica? If he really had a son, would he answer like that and deny his own child? Don't you think he would have tried to avoid this and given a more evasive answer? When this woman is so close-lipped, why did she enter the social media circus argueing with some of his fans... Believe what you want. It's okay if you think you can honour his legacy with such stories and you need to believe it. I think it's bs, because the story doesn't add up in many ways. The picture of this guy doesn't proof anything. My cousin looks like Pierce Brosnan and has even the same smile, but he isn't his son... It's GM's work, his absolute genius and talent he should be remembered and honoured for.

He clearly didn't tell the world about his son because he didn't have a son. Cray Cray.

Do you have a need to hate. You only rotate the same targets and BS over and over. You don't give a shit about the people behind the names. Denial personified no matter the facts. Says a lot about you.

R501 What do you mean with 'do you have a need to hate'? Why are you so defensive? There's absolutely no need for this. I don't want a proof from you or something. Who do you think you are? The guardian of G's life story? Calm down, Baby. I simply floated some questions I have. Why isn't it possible to talk like adults?

R502 That's not quite what you did, is it? A lot of people have had enough of the haters and the completely deluded fans, not all of them. If you are a grown sane person, let's start showing it right now, I'm all in for a nice conversation.

No, R503 is right, there are some that simply canﾴt accept the detail that GM for his reason, pushed his cock inside this woman and he enjoyed it, it gave him enough pleasure to cum, most realize that is undeniable what happened. Now its said. I believe that is the foundation for the ones in denial, back to nature or what.

We have seen enough facts confirming it, but some will deny that fact no matter what because they can't face it, it is not like we don't know GM had a big sexual appetite, or that the woman in question is fucking attractive, so it has to be the way for those people holding on to their fantasy version of GM, preventing them from seeing this clearly and by denying the stone cold facts only appear exceptionally retarded, the truth about GM doesn't fit into their fantasies in several different ways, this is only one, but it makes these people treat GM, his family and choices terribly bad. To them this is not about GM, it is all about themselves, and that is the problem.

Anyone want a grown-up conversation needs to start behaving like one, and that includes realizing the facts are true and stop throwing the same sad attempts to discredit anyone at who isn't shying away from that.

The facts say this is true, it happened, accept it and be happy, it is a good thing, I have seen them myself so I can say this, there is no way this is not genuine!

Let the grown-ups who realize that be happy for GM's sake, if anyone deserved to have this in his life, it is him, can you give him that instead of being all blinded by your own desires and spread your hate for anyone who put GM and the truth beyond themselves.

There will always a majority of people who has a healthy relation to what it means to be a fan of a superstar and those see the truth clearly, not clouded by their own unhealthy obsession. The truths created in the heads of those people have nothing to do with reality, and they are proven wrong over and over, a lot of people had enough of them, More and more realises that those talking like they knew GM are only talking the truths they have created in their heads, it gets tiring to have the obsessed lunatics trying to put the truth down in fear others will realize, what they know deep down, that IT IS TRUE, and they don't want it to be, because it would hurt them and their fantasies, so they lose all common sense of behaviour, act crazy and hurting others including GM, his woman and their son, to keep denying it or letting anyone else know eighter.

The truth has a tendency to reappear and not go away, like this has, for ages, starting 1997! I would like a nice grown-up conversation based in reality, about this great thing.

R504 Spot on!

An interesting article published in Sweden in 2007, it was on the woman's Facebook, dinkiez, there was a translation too:

George loves Sweden

Tonight the praised European Tour of George Michael reaches the Globe in Stockholm. The Popstar thrives in Sweden. - I would like to move to Sweden, said George Michael in an exclusive interview with Expressen.

George Michael has become tired of being chased by paparazzi photographers. Now he sees Sweden as a possible haven. George Michael is performing at the Globe, Stockholm. He has been looking forward to the concert. -It will be great fun to come to Sweden again.

Easier abroad

- I love England. The sad part is that I don´t get as homesick anymore. When I am abroad I am not hunted by photographers. I get to be an ordinary human. It would be hard leaving London. But if I emigrate, I will probably move to Sweden. I like that you are not so Americanised in Scandinavia. I am impressed by that.

Good mood

He is in a great mood when the Expressen meets him before the concert- - I never thought it would feel so wonderful to tour. It has been fantastic for my middle age life. The Music editor of Expressen rewarded the George Michaels tour premiere in London with three wasps. Many critics have been surprised by George Michaels voice during the tour.

R506 Not surprising to know he loved Sweden, was very happy to be back in Sweden and wanted to live there, or that he was so happy when the reporter meet him there, we all know his woman and son lives there, this again confirms they made him happy and meant everything to him, the most natural thing in life. It's a great joy to know he had that, he deserved it. He sounds very relaxed and willing to tell how much Sweden meant to him in a special way.

R507 Right! You don't think in those terms if you haven't been in a place many times and have something special there, and this is a man who has been several times around the globe, but he still chooses Sweden, says a great deal.

Looking at what's going on it is perfectly clear why GM kept this and a lot more from his fans and some other unnamed figures.

That look says it all!

R510 Sorry I don’t follow your statement.

GM's full attention and interest are focused on the half naked woman, the way he looks at her says it all.

Wishful thinking on your part.

It is completely obvious what´s on GM mind, anyone who has ever received a look like that knows what it means! Saying anything else is just silly.

I read the sad but probably true text in another thread, copied further down, and I realised something, someone said once that time will show, I don't think that person knew how right it was. The people in GM's life have shown their true selves, one by one, betraying him over and over, all for money and attention, they haven´t done one single thing for GM. There is only one significant person left who hasn´t betrayed GM, not for anything, who has proven she live up to loving GM for him, and she wouldn´t betray him, she has refused to do so all the time, his Alpha is the only one who stays loyal to GM. He had the love of Alpha and the son.

Copied from another thread: He did try to commit suicide several times so he wasn't surrounded by the best people. None cared enough about him and I think he realized that at the end.

Comedy central above....

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/23575432-fadi-fawaz-xviiii

Interessting picture found on, https://www.facebook.com/the.Alpha.xxx, look down to the right...

The link.

I hate that GLADD has never honored George Michael. This man made it easy for men to come out and yet they ignore him. George's name is only use to push a agenda and nothing else. I thick its sad that the gay community is using him and not horning him for his bravery.

No doubts.

Yikes. Stop the crap and go away. Nobody believes the fake Swedish woman story and the straight washing of GM

R522 Fxck off! You are deeply delusional if you don't know there has been no straight washing but it has been a lot of proof of this being very real and I'm sure time will show even more. Get your opinions from others then tabloids and equally deluded fanatics in social media.

Endocarditis is a junkie's staph infection

So just to clarify, the man who did so much philanthropy work for complete strangers "contributed financially but not huge amounts" for his OWN SON!! the man who himself said how the relationship with his own father was oppressive and unhappy is going to essentially abandon his own child and just rock up a handful of times to confuse the hell out of the child and then go back to his very new boyfriend and grieve for his mother. You keep telling us it's been proven but it absolutely hasn't, there's no mention of how she met him, where she met him or where they had sex... Saying August 97 doesn't cut it, if she'd slept with GM she'd have damn well remembered the details if he got her pregnant.... Her son is 21 so why hasn't he said anything, she chose to go public once GM was dead. If she was telling the truth she'd have screamed from the top of her lungs for a dna test against his father to show they were related And more the point his family would welcome a genuine nephew and grandson.

Don't bite....it fuels his/her fire who ever 'it' is speading this silly nonesense!

There is no further need for any confirmation whatsoever from Alpha of George Michael being the father of their son Johan, it has been stated several times by facts and by people who have actually seen the son live and this picture only confirm the undeniable. The fact is, that very few sons are the spitting image of their fathers to the degree of George and his son Johan or George Jr. Has anyone thought of the possibility he might have inherited the voice too! Clearly enough even to the most deluded tabloid based fanatics out there. The picture was found on FB.

I wish Alpha would tell the world about George and her, she might keep stonewalling when it comes to Johan, but I know too many people around the world, who cares for George Michael and would be terribly interested. Personally, I would feel very good knowing he was loved and got to experience the miracle of life.

And to clarify what should be unnecessary, its nature, life finds its way, that doesn't make GM straight, he said it himself, it is more fluid than people realize, deal with it. His life, his decisions.

R527 They look exactly the same, no question about GM being the young man's father! And look at the leather jacket, on Johan and on GM down right. Let's hope he got his fathers voice too.

It's clear that the person making all these long posts defending the Swedish woman is in fact the Swedish woman herself. She and her 'defender' share unique identifiers in their language patterns—such as identical spelling errors, etc.

R529 Spot on. And since George Michael's will is publicised even the last moron knows that this whole story was made up by a delusional fan.

R529 R530 Are you for real? Or do you have your head so far up your arse that you can't hear or see or even think? There are almost 10 MILLION people living in Sweden, you should have figured out that I am one of them, I stated above that I saw the woman and son in Stockholm, that is the capital of Sweden... I work abroad mostly, but I am still Swedish and there a lot, but to even suggest everyone nordic, about 25 million, is the Alpha, that´s too desperate, to say the least.

You also made the conclusion, based on the SUN as your source... that Alpha was not in the will. I say it would have been greatly surprised if she was, GM was an intelligent man, he knew far too well that there is the kind of you out there, and he did keep a lot in his life far from his fans and even from his close ones, and this is one of the things we know he kept close, so of course he made arrangements outside any document he knew was in jeopardy to become public knowledge, probably many years ago, this also applies to others he really cared for that are also missing in the will. But some you didn´t know about was in it, he was an ultra private person, face it.

Everyone has the freedom to believe what they want, it is to be fair none of our business anyway, but that you find it so immensely hard to comprehend that GM was human, slave to human nature like any healthy person, is embarrassing to you, one of the most primal instincts of all living is to procreate and that´s why sex is one of the most primal and strongest urges of human nature and nothing strange, so it is nothing strange or unlikely about GM and Alpha. You trying to deny it is what is unhealthy and suggests your life is too small and you need to get a healthy balance in your obsession about a star you didn´t know and his life.

Why not listen to the Alpha herself instead, she is the one who knows, not the publicly known unreliable tabloids you obviously listen to and believe, wish by the way says a lot about you but NOTHING about George and Alpha.

Look at her FB, you might find more then you think, hopefully, she will tell something one day to all of us who appreciate that she was GM choice and she made him happy. Not like CWS persons like you, who even fight human nature to maintain your delusions. https://www.facebook.com/the.Alpha.xxx

Feel free to make a point of the long writing, it only tells me you have nothing else, and sad as it is, this is the length it takes to explain some already known facts to you.

Found on FB, you might realise who is in the picture, the day of the son´s birthday with the easy to misspell text: Gorgeous son Johan

Now I'm some cheerleader to the poster above? Maybe I am because I have lived long enough to recognize when someone in their right mind is telling something I know for a fact to be true, but that, unfortunately, clashes with the delusions of some less sound, very nasty and troubled persons, who keep fighting the obvious, no matter how embarrassing and far from common sense they get. I remember the gossip and the 2 pictures that were public for a brief moment in 1997, many of you might not have been more than kids at the time or have any idea how the internet worked at that time, and others might not have been able to see the truth back then tighter or more likely didn't have access to those places, I would publish at least one of the pictures, the one still to be found, but it has already been done before above and some so called fans, better called fanatics, started one of their hate campaigns, by this time they have been thru everyone close to GM at least once I think, surprising someone still lower themselves to act cheerleader for those persons, like some other previous numbers above.

I think it is safe to assume we won't find Alpha in this forum, we know she is not gay and she doesn't discuss her private life or anything, and that's the whole point of this place.

That GM and Alpha got it on is no big deal, it's the most natural thing in the world, get a grip.

R529 R530 What text confirmed to be written by Alpha are you referring to, it must be quite a lot to make the assumption you do about my writing?

R534 That's a good question, there are no such texts written by Alpha.

OK, so in R300, there is a screenshot of Swedish crazy woman’s FB, describing her son as ‘singel son of George.’ Then the very next post she’s pretending to be someone else describing the ’20 year beautiful love story with George,’ ALSO misspelling ‘single’ as ‘singel.”

In R335, the woman herself speaks! And she misspells ‘either’ as ‘eighter,’ exactly the same error as her fake defender in R320 and R332.

The odds of these two distinctive errors occurring with two unique individuals on one thread are very low. The same person is writing these posts claiming to be both ’Alpha’ and her defender.

And I'd bet that in R533, in this sentence:

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the word 'tighter' after 'see the truth back then' was a typo that would have been 'eighter" (the same misspelling of 'either' as in the other posts), judging by the context.

Face it... you're busted.

WHOOPS! Formatting error.

ANYWAY, the sentence in R533 was;

'I remember the gossip and the 2 pictures that were public for a brief moment in 1997, many of you might not have been more than kids at the time or have any idea how the internet worked at that time, and others might not have been able to see the truth back then tighter or more likely didn't have access to those places'

the word 'tighter' after 'see the truth back then' was a typo that would have been 'eighter" (the same misspelling of 'either' as in the other posts), judging by the context.

R536 R537 R538. The level of insanity you are admitting to by saying you are in DL, reading a 535 posts thread, looking for misspellings, to see I don't know what, is terrifying. When you find 2 similar misspelt words, you accuse the ones making them out to be the same person, that's not healthy, you should care more about what they say instead. If you're not interested in that, I don't understand what you are doing in here. Correcting spelling mistakes while making some of your own, or realize the similar ones you referred to is rather likely corrections made by spelling programs the same way, everyone isn't born English, Or are you just in a bad mood and don't find anything Alpha have done to start fighting about? You and your accusations make no sense. You have made it very clear it's not the "Swedish woman" whos crazy in here. Go away and don't make a bigger idiot of yourself, it's not too hard to recognise your way of attacking everyone close to GM because of your own shortcomings and lack of actual facts, haven't you made a fool of yourself enough times by now. I rather get some actual facts about the topic when reading this thread, not insane rambling about who is in the thread by someone who reads 535 posts to look for spelling corrections, if you want to know that you can find a lot of places where you get that information. DL is about the topic, not your personal vendetta.

R539 Don´t bother with the other poster R536 R537 R538 , it´s clearly a case way beyond help. It should be enough I said I'm Swedish and that doesn't make me Alpha more than the other 10 MILLION people in Sweden, and we are all likely to make similar spelling errors, with the rest of the Nordics, together with everyone everywhere who uses the same spelling program.

Besides Alpha has never made any posts in here, get serious, her posts on fb have been put in here but not by her, R539 you explained it very good before, it makes perfect sense opposed to the insanity about spelling, I copy: we know she is not gay and she doesn't discuss her private life or anything, and that's the whole point of this place.

And to the spelling nazi who makes errors yourself, why don´t you ask Alpha, the link to her fb is put in here twice above like you said, or are you only cocky in anonymous places.

R539. I am not sure you even know what the hell you are stating. You are either drunk, retarded or illiterate.

Oh, 'Alpha.' The desperation to defend yourself is hilarious. Any forensic psychologist on the planet would be able to tell with a simple glance that one person is writing both sets of posts. You're simply not smart enough to cover your tracks. Say what you like, but you're busted. And you're the one who writes long, insane posts. Mine are sane, to the point, and actually make sense.

BTW, R529 was my first post here. I registered and posted for the sole purpose of exposing your game, after reading your crazy diatribes. Starting to wonder if you're the woman George found living under his floorboards...

R542 I think you lost everyone now, who is who, and what are you going on about? Spare us any answer to that, I don´t want to even try to understand your thoughts, but insane is the word that comes to mind when reading your posts.

I am only curious, who are you obsessed with, me, the other positive poster, or Alpha? Or maybe all three?

Why all the hate, you must have a very good reason for doing as you stated - I registered and posted for the sole purpose of exposing your game - or you are in fact insane, not only as a matter of speech, because that is not normal behaviour from a sane person who doesn´t know any of the three you are attacking, or do you? I´m not even sure who of the three you are aiming at in your last post.

You get very upset about a simple conversation at an anonymous forum, mostly friendly sharing of thoughts and information, but I have to tell you, you got it all wrong, stop grasping for straws that´s not there, stop the "bust you" shit, you are embarrassing yourself, and the discrimination between the born English or not, it is an international gay forum, are you 12... ?

Find somewhere else to write about your delusions and leave this thread to the ones with an interest in the topic and not the posters. Your obsession with the posters in an anonymous forum puts you very much in the wrong place.

R542 Again, why don't you talk to Alpha? You have much to say about her, you must know her well to make those statements, or don't you? Is it all made up by you?

Your statements don't fit the picture of Alpha one bit, and it's painted by people who DO know her, and you DON'T.

You are in this thread for all the wrong reasons, with the wrong attitude and agenda. Go away, no one wants you here.

R543 and R544, you literally make no sense. And you're the one no one wants here, with your ridiculous, schizophrenic posts about 'The Alpha' and your imaginary 20-year love story/love child with George Michael and pretending to be several different people. You're the only person here who DOESN'T think you're insane. You may have a son, but trying to pass him off as George's is beyond crazy. Just stop. You're just one in a sadly long line of delusional women who have fabricated a relationship with a man who wanted nothing to do with deranged stalker fans like you, but still you persisted in making his life miserable. Go away, no one wants you here. AND NO ONE BELIEVES YOU.

So to summarise, none of the pro alpha poster/s have actually got their information from her herself?? Perplexed as to why you're defending someone you don't know??

R546 You meant attacking someone you don´t know?? There has been a lot of different people talking positively about Alpha and GM in this thread and in other threads too, some that knows her/him, some who don´t, but who has a healthy mind and are not clouded by their own delutions, like to many of the posters that has been infesting DL since GM died, to do God knows what, because they are not doing anything good or anything even connected to GM by attacking his love and his choices, I don´t even wan´t to think about how GM would have felt reading those posts, it is perfect examples of denial, delutions, insanity or pure evil in some cases, I never seen anything like it and I don´t think I will, this is the place except for Twitter where most of those obsessed fanatics are to be found in lack of their own lives, I can't see any other explanation to why attacking someone who isn't even in the conversation, for no other reason then have given GM love and happiness, I will never understand how some sad persons can dilute themselves to believe that is what someone who cared a shit about GM would ever respond to such positive thing in his life, you should be the ones cheering and screaming from the rooftops of happiness for him if you cared as much as you claim.

There has been a lot of proof in PMs going around, if you are not one of the recipients, I suppose that is for a reason. Do you know GM or Alpha personally, anyone else in here who does? Or are you just stabbing in the back?

Poster R545 and more, you completely missed the thing about DL, haven´t you? As far as I can see at a quick glance in GM threads, you managed to be in several, going on about spelling, while making a lot of spelling errors yourself, a lot, and claiming to be a professional Profiler! You actually managed to kill off a couple of threads, people don't want to hear your insane BS, you are in some sick imaginary world. You attack about long posts, like the one you wrote yourself in another GM thread, where you also claims not to recognize George..I don't have a clue what you're going on about, and I don't think you do eighter. Your text copied: //The 2 pictures of supposedly George and Alpha, I use a more advanced face recognition software that's available to the public but seriously.... They'd need to be Stevie bloody wonder to try and pass off that man as George //

Your post 545 in this thread is impossible to comprehend, it might be clear in your fantasy but, who is who? First you say, I copy your text: //with your ridiculous, schizophrenic posts about 'The Alpha//

Then you write, I copy your text: //The Alpha' and your imaginary 20-year love story/love child with George Michael and pretending to be several different people.//

And it keeps going like that, same as your previous posts and your posts in other threads, where you also admit to having read those threads too and searched for spelling errors, that makes it a lot more the 546 posts in this thread, it will add up to thousands of posts! That´s not normal or even possible to do by someone who has a life, if your aggressive tone and insane conclusions weren´t enough, that should cover it, you have an unhealthy obsession of which you lost control. Doesn´t it ring a bell when you hate a complete stranger like that, a stranger I am sure you never even talked to, the way you hate GM and Alpha and are attacking them? It should ring, loud!

I suggest you accept we have different opinions, that is ok to have!

I am not interested in wasting any time on your attacks caused by your personal issues, entirely unrelated to the actual topics. And that topic is neither you or me! Are you beginning to comprehend how it works?

One last question I ask myself reading some posts, what has GM and Alpha ever done to you? Have you ever considered there might be a boy involved, maybe reading your posts? How did you come to the conclusion it is ok to attack any one of them, do you attack random people like that too?

R544 Personal question, have you heard of The List?

R549 I have, you're on it, right? Then I think I know who you are, I can contact you if it's okay?

Good responses above, what are those crazy fanatics doing in here anyway, always trying to make the discussion about them, like anyone has an interest in them besides themselves. They won't bring any accurate information or a nice conversation, their whole picture is about them, look at how they portray themselves as caring about GM and then look at what they do, oil and water go together far better than that! They are crazy, different levels of CWS all of them. It's no problem knowing who they are, because there are a lot of good ones in this thread too and the difference is huge. It's a good thing the crazy ones are only very few, thank God there is an entire world out there with a lot of sane persons, even if some of the fanatics think this is it.

I have no intention of continuing to answer the endless sidetracks created by persons who have no real knowledge, information or any genuine interest in the purpose of this thread. I say it one last time, I remember 1997, the pictures, the whole shebang! Your BS won't work here.

R550 isn´t that the truth. See you on The List then, contact me, did you see the last information in there, may that never end up in here, right. It would cause an aneurysm in the hating parties in here. I consider cancelling DL after many years, too bad the fanatics don't have the intelligence to go away before they destroy this forum like all other they infested with their BS. Let´s continue the conversation on The List.

What the hell is “The List”?

R548, WTH are you talking about? My first post was R529. I'm not sure who you think you're speaking to, but this is my first thread. I haven't been in any other threads and I certainly haven't posted any pictures. All I have seen and read about 'The Alpha' is in this thread. I'm not on any other forums, either. I just happened to come across this and couldn't stop reading because it was so absolutely insane. You're a loony tune if ever there was one.

ANYWAY, you are the one writing long-winded, incomprehensible, error-ridden posts. Everyone here obviously thinks you're nuts except the other identities you post under. You're having conversations with yourself most of the time.

Oh, and I don't make spelling errors.

There's lots of ignored posts from a chap who clearly has me mixed up with someone else because I AM A Profiler, I've posted 3 posts in General GM, I worked worked bloody hard to get where I am so would you mind not implying I've fabricated, I saw George a lot when he was recording the symphonic documentary, my comments were based on a professional analysis and standard in any criminal psychology degree, those photos are CATAGORICALLY NOT GEORGE... FACT, I actually would have loved it to be true for his family, my only comment that you neglect to answer is where have you got your information from as is a normal request in such circumstances ? If not from her then from where? I've only seen smoke and mirrors sir not "Alpha told me" or here's my proof and some really really unfounded slanderous name calling and accusations to EVERYONE who doesn't agree with you and anyone who knew George even for a short time while actually happy as myself you claim are lying, I HAVE NOT called you anything because I'm bloody professional sir. I will welcome fact and logic please and not rumours, hearsay and pictures that whomever has told you are George are NOT... FACT, proof is what differentiates between fact and fiction so please tell me it not insult me.

R554 Show us the photos of GM and Alpha that you are so certain isn't GM.

The two supposed people talking about 'The List' are the same person. How hilarious. Made up dribble from some attention seeker weirdo.

R556 Poor George attracts as many weirdo’s

R556 Not sure what happened to the rest of the above sentence. Poor George attracts as many weirdo’s dead as he did alive.

Fuck me pink!

George was a confirmed homo. Closest he got to pussy was when he ate a tuna sandwich.

R555 tell me how to post pics and happily... Just says website link below and I just have the pictures

R555 tell me how to post pics and happily, it only says post website link below and I only have the pictures.

R554 All the pictures I saw of GM and Alpha has been GM without a doubt!

With your claimed skills, you should know how to put pictures in here, but open the pictures and copy the text you get and paste the link below in your post. It must be pictures I haven't seen before.

I will make a few things clear. This is for several posters, not any specific. I am not any other poster, that cheap shot is ridiculous. The List is very much real, but no surprise you don't know about it, you are not supposed to. If you did, you would know it is the only place where information about GM is updated and accurate, by the only solid sources, provided to a limited, well vetted, solid group all over the world, 'ambassadors' who try to keep the information correct out there and also reports back what they find. In other words, we know the truth. If you knew who the other poster really is, you would listen carefully to what he said. He has ended his DL, because the GM threads no longer provide any real information but only BS about other posters and have been infested by unhealthily obsessed people who show abnormal unjustified hate towards what is total strangers. I consider cancelling mine too. It is a loss, for all who have a normal level of interest in GM, be sure there has been more correct information in this thread then anywhere else with public access. But no serious person stand all the BS and stupidity not to embrace the information and move on to other places, has been too many different persons who made that choice by now, you will soon only have yourself and your imaginary versions of GM left. Another place ruined by you, what's next, or who.

I have been in DL for many years, I remember the old threads about GM and let me tell you the way you talk about GM and Alpha are the same way the DL posters talked about GM already when he was still alive, same undignified stupid shit-tossing, some supportive community we got, and now it seems like some persons got the idea that its free season on GMs closest when he is gone, and they go mental about Alpha, whose only crime is to have given GM love, and even worse, they also go for the son, who's only crime would be to have been born the son. I hope to God GM didn't read what was posted when he was alive and I am glad he won't read and see how a few people treat this. But the people going crazy over this is a very limited small group, I think we all know by now pretty much who they are and why they sadly can't accept the reality but hide in their delusions. The rest out there has a normal perspective and a positive attitude towards GM and Alpha and that's the ones of importance, there are always some who can't deal with life, but to find it okay to say some that has been said, do some that have been done, wanting to hurt someone else like that is not okay, its despicable. It's insane behaviour, for real. I had to say it. Get a grip for God's sake! The reality or what's already happened won't change. Open your eyes, stop the bashing and start talking. I seriously consider following the example of the normal previous posters and cancel DL if there are only the others left here. Sad after all those years, but those posters give nothing of value. Let's make it fun and interesting again.

R555 my masters in Criminology specialising in profiling didn't have a "know your way round a chat forum you've used twice" I've read all your posts by ignoring your request for pictures post and all your posts from the thread get shown, I did the same for all the long posts (it's my job) although a couple have me mixed up with another poster, please anyone reciprocate and you will see I haven't ever been rude to anyone, although DL missed my post out about the pictures think it's d554, you make some valid points but more often than not they are filled with defensive angry emotions, and yours are mild compared to some absolutely vile accusations and consistent nasty nasty terminology by the 9 other major posters in this thread. I'm not saying anything you believe is lies, or in fact any of the other posters... Yet, I want to be proven wrong because I knew George while he was filming the symphonica dvd but If I'm willing to be proven wrong anyone who wants to talk has to be open to the same with an approachable manner because I get paid a lot of money to listen to some of the kind of angry defensive posters here... Emotion starts wars... Let's be grown-ups and leave it in the playground ... I actually have some funny and very knowledgeable enduring input....... lie.to.me1971@gmail.com... And who knows if anyone doesn't go for my throat it could lead to my real name and Fb.

R564 put the pictures on Imgur and post the link in here. There are no photos of GM and Alpha that is not GM and I seen a lot of pictures.

Out of curiosity, how do you get paid a lot of money to read long posts in a gay celebrity gossip forum?

Put a link to you on FB, I'm not out for anyone's throat.

R564 or simply use the link where you found the pictures, by copying it and paste it below.

R564 I guess we can assume you have realized that the pictures of GM and Alpha are in FACT GM.

I have seen plenty of pictures of them and there is no doubt whatsoever that its GM. No one who's got a clue would suggest anything else.

R556 and your other posts, you seem to need to insult in every post, (read long posts on a gay gossip column forums) and another about not responding within your acceptable time frame, I knew the man yet I'm the the one saying prove me wrong, prove me wrong... you aren't... I gave an email address, you want Facebook, what is the relevance of that to you anyway as it changes nothing about the facts?? Do I plaster GM across Fb, no, because in my profession I am meticulously private, You're hell bent on proving something you have no actual facts from her or him so let's agree to disagree and I'll take my memories to cowboys and Angels today and you can have yours. Sad because if that lady's story is true she and I have more in common than anyone could ever realise. Take care of yourself.

R555, R566, R567 if you've seen all pics I assume this is one of them... Can you confirm who is in this pic from the other thread please....

R 569 and a lot more. You try to hide your lies by starting a fight, dragging out the tabloid BS story already discussed and dismissed above R476, really.... That's way to desperate, you are only humiliating yourself, no one is buying this.

I don't know where your anger stems from but how do you expect anyone to take you seriously, you make wild accusations, hidden threats, lie to cover your own truth, trying to make yourself sound important when you are nobody, trying to make it look like you knew GM because you saw him a couple of times, probably while stalking him, saying you are not trash talking anyone while doing that in vile words, accuse others of posting as different persons while you are the one who does that and not as one or two, but as at least as 4 different posters! I did a very slight brush over some GM threads and found a lot, and that was only a quick look. I got a good look at what you are really about. No one will think there are at least 4 different, probably a lot more, spelling nazi, forensic criminologist who read thousands of posts in DL and get paid a lot to do it, or uses advanced face recognition software to recognise GM, claim its not him, strange if you knew him, right, but it is clear you didn't, in your posts. You could not show the photos of GM and Alpha that you claimed as fact not to be GM in different threads, you even got instructions on how to. The patterns are clear. Then asking me to provide you with proof, why would I wanna do that, if it was intended for you, and there are a lot out there, you would have had it, like so many others who are capable to deal with it, but obviously no one thought of you that way, and what I have seen I won't be the one providing it. The sad truth is that you have proven yourself to be nothing else then another obsessed fan who can't stand the fact GM and Alpha had what you wanted, but he didn't want you, he wanted her!

I suggest you take care of your son on prednisolone instead of reading gay forums and hate strangers like GM and Alpha and a lot of posters in here. No one wants a full-blown lunatic going for their throat when simply having a discussion in a gay forum about a common interest. DL is about talking, not busting. Your kind has ruined more than enough places already with that attitude and endless, pointless fighting, why do you think this remains the primary place to share information about GM and Alpha, because there are so many gays, right, sure it is. I am not trying to offend you, the opposite in fact, if you find what I say offensive, I suggest you think about why that is. We already agreed to disagree, you have a problem with me, but that is your problem, I have zero interest in you, and I am obviously not the only one you are having problems with, its time to move opposite directions and leave it there. Our discussion is over, again, this thread is not about you, me or any other poster, its about GM and Alpha.

For our UK natives read in Ricky Gervais style, "we probably should have left it" yes R570... we are all as you say, we are all bitter unable to make him love us menopausal lovelies, I didn't spend a solid 4.5m before symphonica getting to know him and his anxiety. George didn't use contraception several times with a complete stranger because she was so beautiful after his hiv+ lover just died ergo making him meticulous about putting a hat on even when self stating "off his head" and he wanted to protect his son and "woman" so much he went on national TV and said "in the absence of children to protect as gay couples we make alternative arrangements" and so to show he's a proud roll model who would want his son to be proud but anonymous he got caught multiple times misbehaving or banging one out on Hampstead heath as its called in that part of our tiny country and on the front page of our low life newspapers..... Yes... we concur.... Oh wait...

Fadi fawaz viiii wouldn't load.

Appears the stress is taking its toll...

Fadi is looking as bad as George during his last days on this earth. Not a good look Fadi.

Ha, I forgot all about this thread and returned to find the same crazy loon pretending to be several people, and trying to make everyone believe George had a child with a woman called 'The Alpha,' and also confusing me with another poster who actually IS a profiler/criminologist. That is pretty funny. I have always been interested in forensic psychology and even studied it a bit, which is why I can spot the similarities in posts that usually go unnoticed by most (even the poster trying to pretend to be more than one person). It's like handwriting analysis. However, unlike 'Lie to Me,' I don't do it for a living.

At any rate, glad to see the loon still has nothing better to do than pretend to be George Michael's secret baby mama. Lord have mercy. lol

R574 A pleasure to put a number to previous comments, when I read your previous posts I thought to myself you actually did sound like me and that's why they made the assumption we were one and the same....and you're quite correct about one poster posting as multiple, also one who started by telling us he knew GM very well but by the end of his posts declaring we mixed him up with another as he didn't know him....clearly didn't realise how we check!!

R575 Lovely to meet you/me! LOL! If only these people understood how easy it is for us to figure them out. There are characteristics unique to people's communications that are so ingrained that they don't even realize themselves how easily identifiable they are to those of us with an eye for that sort of thing. I probably shouldn't have given away the secrets, though.

I wish I'd made a career of it, but it didn't work out that way. You have my complete admiration and respect! Oh, and envy.

Why is it so important to identify the poster?

R576 Thank you, I enjoy it until a new pedophilia case drops on my desk. The Alpha numpty hasn't been back since my last post to them to insult us all and she's still implying George is the father, what with her and FF mental break completely wrecking Georges house and standing on the roof half naked, the GM whistleblowers hate and fraud campaign on IG towards GMs backing singer Shirley Lewis it doesn't look like his legacy is anything but about his music right now. R577 it's good to know so we can ignore them each time they pretend to be a different poster.

R577 Right, poster R574, R575, R576, you get the picture, it is the same poster, a crazy fan who think this is Twitter where she has several accounts and no one knows, sure, she is in every George Michael thread and on her way to kill them all, she apparently considers the poster to be more important than the topic and she still ends up in an anonymous forum, it speaks volumes about her. I think we should ignore that particular poster like some previous positive posters already have. By the way, those positive posters have given some very interesting information and stuck to facts. While being attacked by the Lie to me 1, and 2 and on ... poster, who by all means will never be able to say she has done the same. It is just another whacko fan who has no life and get her dilutions crushed by George and Alpha, we have seen too many of those whackjobs, some people can´t realise when they have become the face of insanity or when they are not wanted.

I wait for the day when those loonies realise they can't change what happened, I might have to wait, but they can stop being idiots right now, and stop showing everyone else that they are, instead, they could quietly keep their delusions and fantasyland just like they want it, because that's the only place they can ever alter the truth about George and Alpha.

I, like many others, read this thread because I want to know more about George Michael, not the posters, not another whacko fan, only George Michael and of course, therefore, I also like to know more about him and Alpha as an important and positive part of his life, I suggest we stick to what this thread is supposed to be all about and leave the crazy fans "kill off" each other instead of "killing off" George Michael threads here.

George and Alpha

Not too difficult to figure out what secrets George Michaels family are afraid Fadi will reveal that they are considering being too private, this was kept immensely private.

Oh R576....they're baaaaaaaack!!!!! Photoshop blurred nonsense, show the pictures you know are George without all the ridiculous camouflage of xmas rubbish on Facebook.....if not........bye Felicia!!

R579 You make little or no sense, to be honest. But I can assure you that you and your alter ego are the loonies in fantasyland. You are the only person who really believes this ridiculous story you're pushing, and to claim that Lie to Me and myself are the only ones who dispute it... well, that is just plain nuts. Literally no one else besides your various identities has posted in favor of it. Everyone thinks it and you are insane.

But hey, keep up your game. You obviously need to believe this crackpot theory. Bless your little heart.

R578 I know. George really did attract some crazy people. I haven't heard about what is happening to Shirley L. since I don't really keep up with this stuff on a regular basis, but I'll Google it. Do any of these nuts really think George would be happy about ANY of this?!

R582 I missed this post! LOL!! I know, that pic could be anyone from Geri Halliwell to Belinda Carlisle to one of the thousands upon thousands of fans and friends and friends of friends he was photographed with. It proves nothing except that at some point, George Michael stood next to a woman. Quite a long leap from that to 'proof he fathered a secret child with this woman.'

BTW, shrugging off the Anon veil and posting with my username from here on in, to avoid further confusion.

R576 would you like to email me lie.to.me@gmail.com...l have something i'd like to share, welcome dollybird, you should be warned, you may well be referred to as lie to me 3 very shortly...I can only apologise.

Sorry Dollybird, understood, was away with the fairies for a while.....long day!!

Dolly, Just seen I've given half my email (2.40am Gmt) been up 32hrs...something else I don't enjoy about the job.... lie.to.me1971@gmail.com

Hello! I'm the real Alpha and here are the real facts. Enjoy!

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HAPPY CHRISTMAS!

Peace and Love! Alpha!

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