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Jon Hamm Is a Great Actor, So Why Can’t He Find Another Great Role?

Jon Hamm Is a Great Actor, So Why Can’t He Find Another Great Role?

Owen Gleiberman, Chief Film Critic, August 27, 2017 | 08:45AM PT

In his latest movie, “Marjorie Prime,” Jon Hamm plays a hologram who gives tender therapeutic advice to the aging lady he was once married to (it’s complicated), and if that doesn’t strike you as exciting, you’re not alone. The movie is a precious indie bauble that has already whiffed at the specialty box office. Hamm is crafty and spry in it; you might say — as some have — that it’s an adventurous role for him, in the same way that playing a violent sociopath with choppy shaved hair in “Baby Driver” was an adventurous role for him. These characters aren’t what we “expect” from Jon Hamm, so they make it look like he’s in there, trying on audacious things and working it. The question is: Why does Jon Hamm now look like he’s trying so hard?

I think what I’m asking is: Why isn’t Jon Hamm a movie star? It’s an awkward question to pose, because we all know the entertainment industry doesn’t mint movie stars the way it once used to. It now mints franchises that are bigger than any one star. Beyond that, Jon Hamm’s image as an actor rests on a television series that, as much as any series in the history of the medium, proved that television could vibrate with an artistic electricity heady and bold enough to rival that of any contemporary movie. To presume that Hamm, after “Mad Men” (which ended in 2014), should have “graduated” to the movies may sound like outdated or even patronizing thinking.

Yet let’s be honest: If you compare him to the two other greatest actors of the new golden age of television, Bryan Cranston and the late James Gandolfini, Hamm, on “Mad Men,” had a tall-dark-and-handsome sharky elegance combined with a glamorous film-noir danger that made him seem, uniquely, like the 21st-century version of a classic movie star (think Robert Mitchum with a touch of Gregory Peck).

His look alone — the inky perfect hair, the thrusting chin and reluctant smile, the killer eyes that could melt or freeze you — was worthy of 007. Beyond that, Hamm inhabited Don Draper’s slithery soul in a way that invited the audience into a fascinating complicity with him. Over those years, I read a lot of great “Mad Men” recaps, but a blind spot shared by more than a few of them was the tendency to judge Don’s sins from on high, and to presume that the show viewed his hungry and often illicit soul with that same moralistic detachment. I’d argue that the ambiguous glory of “Mad Men” was how much it submerged the audience in Don’s point-of-view, and it was Hamm’s sonorous force as an actor that allowed that.

It’s that force that’s been waiting to be unleashed, to find a role — a great role — ever since the show ended. We now inhabit a culture so fickle that there are those who would write off Hamm as a one-hit wonder. (I expect to read a comment to that effect within 10 minutes of this column being posted.) But I don’t buy it. Hamm will be a true star again. In the years since “Mad Men,” however, it’s become more and more apparent why he’s fumbling around in movies that aren’t worthy of him.

He is, for one, a grown-up actor in a universe that’s increasingly kiddiefied; almost surely, he would have done better several decades ago. Yet Hamm’s biggest sticking point in terms of casting is tied to the very quality that made him so enthralling on “Mad Men”: He’s a victim of Intellectual Actor Syndrome. For all his swarthy allure, he’s an intensely brainy and articulate actor who leads, in spirit, from the neck up, and whose excitement and danger reside in his thoughts. That requires a script that can channel, through words, the actor’s energized quality of mind. Without it, he comes off as a ghost of himself.

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by Anonymousreply 85April 6, 2018 8:35 PM

Hamm seemed to get off to a good start on the big screen, giving an ace performance as the FBI Special Agent on the tail of the Fenway Park heist plotters in Ben Affleck’s “The Town,” which was released in 2010, during the height of “Mad Men” mania. But in the cause of “stretching,” he has made a number of bad choices, taking on roles that detracted from his mystique — like the part of Allen Ginsberg’s defense attorney in “Howl” (not a bad role, but the movie was too scrubby and earnest), or the fish-out-of-water sports agent who journeys to India to find a superstar pitcher in Disney’s innocuously inspirational “Million Dollar Arm.” There’s a value to not being overexposed, and Hamm, by saying yes to routine movies like these, made himself seem common, a gun-for-hire, part of the general scenery. I realize that actors have to work, but if the roles you choose end up dulling your brand, then they may not be worth the price.

Hamm has begun to seem like a supporting guy on the fringes, when what he really needs is a daring part that places him at the dead center of the action, a role built around his cutthroat fluency. Sure, you can’t cast somebody who looks like Jon Hamm as just anybody, but off the top of my head, I can think of any number of characters that he’d be perfect for.

It’s easy to imagine him taking on the Henry Fonda role of the U.S. president who goes through the negotiation of his life in a remake of “Fail Safe” (1964), Sidney Lumet’s great countdown-to-oblivion thriller, tailored to these neo-nuclear times. Or playing the shady hero of one of Woody Allen’s serious dramas about an ordinary man caught in a dark web of his own devising (“Match Point,” “Crimes and Misdemeanors”). And while some will surely say that Hamm, at 46, is too old for the part, I say: Cast him as Superman! Why not have the Man of Steel be a man instead of an overgrown pin-up, especially given that Henry Cavill has about one-ten-thousandth the charisma?

You should never give up the hope that Hollywood will make a romantic comedy for adults, and wouldn’t it be enticing to see Hamm star in one of them opposite an actress like Cate Blanchett? The sparks, and wit, could fly. Can Hamm sing and dance? He’s been brilliantly funny, and shown an effortless light touch, on “Saturday Night Live,” so I’m betting that he might have the talent to hold down a contempo post-“La La Land” musical. And there’s a juicy biopic that should really have his name on it: a movie about the wild, sordid, insane, besotted life — especially the later years — of Errol Flynn. (There’s a Flynn movie in the works, but it’s an “action-adventure” that takes off from an episode in Flynn’s youth, leaving room for a much deeper dive into who he was as a star.) Also, this will probably sound insane, but I think Hamm would be an inspired choice to play Frank Zappa.

How do you land a role of ambition and audacity and white-hot buzz? After “Mad Men,” Jon Hamm should have had the world eating out of his hand. In the three years since, he has squandered some of that capital, but even so, there has to be a daring director out there — David O. Russell? Kathryn Bigelow? Paul Thomas Anderson? — who would kill to create a perfect role for him.

A character like Don Draper is, of course, a tough act to follow, and Hamm may be doing all he can to shake himself free of it, in the same way that Sean Connery, in the ’70s, went to elaborate lengths to shake himself free of James Bond. But Hamm would now do well to ponder the very qualities in himself that Don Draper brought out: the adman showmanship, the hound-dog cunning, the hint of mercilessness held behind a witty façade of civility. You can only play Don once, but Hamm, going forward, shouldn’t feel like he has to run from him. If he does, that may be an actor running from himself.

by Anonymousreply 1August 27, 2017 4:09 PM

He should whip out that huge cock.

by Anonymousreply 2August 27, 2017 4:13 PM

Maybe if he came over and fucked the hell out of me he could clear his mind and figure it out.

by Anonymousreply 3August 27, 2017 4:17 PM

Is he a great actor? I only know of him because of his gigantic dick.

by Anonymousreply 4August 27, 2017 4:19 PM

This is a major problem I spend many nights worrying about.

by Anonymousreply 5August 27, 2017 4:23 PM

He's a decent actor who should stick to character work, mostly bad guys.

[quote]For all his swarthy allure, he’s an intensely brainy and articulate actor who leads, in spirit, from the neck up, and whose excitement and danger reside in his thoughts. That requires a script that can channel, through words, the actor’s energized quality of mind. Without it, he comes off as a ghost of himself.

That's not "Intellectual Actor Syndrome" it's just being an actor of limited talent. Great actors don't require great scripts. And a frat boy who was torturing pledges brutally enough to get arrested and charged in Texas is not someone who grows into an intellectual, with an "energized quality of the mind." He's a fucking brute. And a bully.

Glieberman is being ridiculous here. Why won't someone give this wealthy, successful, middle-aged white guy a chance? When did life become so unfair?!

by Anonymousreply 6August 27, 2017 4:28 PM

If they would ever cast an American as James Bond, he'd be perfect.

by Anonymousreply 7August 27, 2017 4:29 PM

No one cares except for this writer who is probably being paid to write that meaningless article by John's publicist.

by Anonymousreply 8August 27, 2017 4:30 PM

Jon Hamm will NEVER get another good role. That's why he should continue playing Don Draper like roles. He's not getting any younger either - he's got only so much time left.

by Anonymousreply 9August 27, 2017 4:33 PM

He's good enough and charismatic enough for TV, but he just doesn't have that "IT" factor to be a hugely successful movie star.

by Anonymousreply 10August 27, 2017 4:34 PM

I don't think he's as charismatic as this writer or his fans think. The hazing stories have damaged his likability factor; he's better at playing bad guys, and he doesn't work out to keep up the hot factor. When he took his shirt off on Mad Men, I was surprised at how doughy his body is. Maybe it was to keep his body realistic for the '60s but I imagine that's how he always looks, regardless of roles.

I don't think he has a lot of range either.

by Anonymousreply 11August 27, 2017 4:39 PM

Fuck movies. He should go back to television.

by Anonymousreply 12August 27, 2017 4:41 PM

The stars aligned for Jon Hamm to play Don Draper. It was just a perfect mixing of person and character. He is a mediocre talent whose luck is running out. It happens. He really should have had his agent lobby for him to do some stage work. He could have done a production of "Glengarry Glen Ross" or "Arsenic & Old Lace" somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 13August 27, 2017 4:53 PM

He always looks like he needs a bath and a shave (even when he has bathed and is freshly shaved.) The only time he looked put together was when he was playing Don Draper. The magic is gone.

by Anonymousreply 14August 27, 2017 4:58 PM

Hamm in Mad Men was the elusive perfect casting; he was born to play Don Draper. Beyond that... he may be talented, he may be handsome, he may be brilliant, but he has to convince someone to put him in a role that sheds his Mad Men persona and puts him on display for what he is, and he's not going to do that by not wearing underwear and bitching about having his picture taken showing his big dick flopping around.

by Anonymousreply 15August 27, 2017 5:07 PM

I think he could do really well in a sitcom if he wanted. He's got great goofy charm. But he is not going to get to play Hamlet or Abraham Lincoln onscreen--he's got range, but only a limited range.

by Anonymousreply 16August 27, 2017 5:16 PM

[quote]I think he could do really well in a sitcom if he wanted.

Definitely. Someone should write a sitcom where he plays a game show host. Think Richard Dawson on Family Feud. It could show what he gets away with on the show versus what he doesn't in real life. For example, on the game show, he gets to kiss all the women contestants. Then in real life, he forgets he's not on the game show and tries a greeting kiss on the hostess at the local restaurant who smacks him upside the head. Or he's like Gene Rayburn and on the show talks in double entendres, then in real life he tries it and people tell him what a warped person he is. Hilarity ensues.

by Anonymousreply 17August 27, 2017 5:21 PM

He just doesn't seem to translate on the big screen. He needs to concentrate on quality TV roles. Like an HBO or Netflix series. He needs a True Detective.

by Anonymousreply 18August 27, 2017 5:22 PM

[quote]He needs a True Detective.

He should move to Great Britain. They have more murder-mystery shows per tv hour than any other country. Those Brits like their murder-mysteries.

by Anonymousreply 19August 27, 2017 5:23 PM

A friend of mine who is a legitimate producer who was part of the producing team for three movies and all of them were critical successes and won awards, approached Hamm's agent about thb role of a lifetime. Seriously. And hamm said he was "too busy" and had some things he wanted to do of his own, and maybe in two years he could do something with it. So IMO the guy has very poor management. I don't know which agency handles him, but he needs to switch.

by Anonymousreply 20August 27, 2017 5:24 PM

Kind of curious about what the "role of a lifetime" could be r20

by Anonymousreply 21August 27, 2017 5:26 PM

They really should have him do a male version of Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries. Dress him up in snazzy, period clothes, have him bed lots of people and in between solve a mystery or two.

And throw in the cliche of having an elderly housekeeper who mothers him.

by Anonymousreply 22August 27, 2017 5:27 PM

We want to perform 'oral love' on Jon!

by Anonymousreply 23August 27, 2017 5:42 PM

BTW, a quick astrological check shows that Jon is 'of the persuasia',,_______Saturn square venus

by Anonymousreply 24August 27, 2017 5:47 PM

R24 and what the hell does that mean?

by Anonymousreply 25August 27, 2017 5:49 PM

[quote]and what the hell does that mean?

It means that people on Datalounge go to extreme lengths to prove that a straight man indulges in the homosex.

by Anonymousreply 26August 27, 2017 5:52 PM

Magically, The Bulge disappears on the beach. If you had a dick like he's supposed to have, wouldn't you wear a Speedo to show it off? Instead he wears boxer-type trunks.

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by Anonymousreply 27August 27, 2017 6:08 PM

r27, those are photos from the episode when Don and Megan Draper (also pictured) go to Hawaii. That's not Jon Hamm in real life. I have no idea what kind of swimwear he actually wears.

They did not give him a worked out body in "Mad Men," btw, because handsome ad men in the 1960s did not have gym bodies.

I doubt the freeballing photos have registered much with the public at all--that's not why he doesn't get good roles. if someone doesn't want to wear underwear underneath his khakis, big deal.

I think the hazibg incident was actually bad publicity, but it's pretty much forgotten now. And Hamm was having troubles with getting good film roles long before that. No, the problem was he made it comparatively late for an actor (in his late 30s), and it was hard to put him in lead roles because he was not bankable then. Clooney made the transition, but Clooney had far more charisma and firepower than Hamm has. Hamm is an excellent actor (both dramatic and comedic), but despite his handsomeness, he's a character actor, not a movie star. He is likely to get another great TV role again if he's more careful about selecting roles than he has been in the past, but he's unlikely to ever make it as a movie star--not enough charisma, and too old.

by Anonymousreply 28August 27, 2017 6:37 PM

Interesting F27. I've sometimes wondered about the authenticity of his pap stroll "bulges".

No OP, he's not a great actor, he's a good actor. And he was extremely lucky to be in a show that was shot so beautifully that it made him look Hollywood Handsome..

by Anonymousreply 29August 27, 2017 6:42 PM

R28 It's not his chronological age that's a problem, it's the fact that he looks older than his age.

But it's not even that because male actors are allowed to look old. It's about timing, luck and opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 30August 27, 2017 6:50 PM

Wasn't the hazing about the time he lost his second parent? Not that it's an excuse but he must have been very screwed up at the time.

by Anonymousreply 31August 27, 2017 6:51 PM

He was on another series just before Mad Men and he played the most ridiculous character. Well, it was poorly written but even so, he was unconvincing in the part. When all the hype started with Mad Men, it took me over a year to figure out it was the same guy.

by Anonymousreply 32August 27, 2017 6:54 PM

I want to play with his big dick.

by Anonymousreply 33August 27, 2017 6:55 PM

He's not a great actor. He's a not terrible actor who got the exact right part for him to play in Mad Men.

Great actors can morph into different roles. He cannot. He can play a very specific type of character - albeit very well.

by Anonymousreply 34August 27, 2017 6:58 PM

[quote]He always looks like he needs a bath and a shave (even when he has bathed and is freshly shaved.) The only time he looked put together was when he was playing Don Draper. The magic is gone.

R14, thinks all men should look like THIS >>

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by Anonymousreply 35August 27, 2017 6:59 PM

It's so strange when he does comedy because he's rather intimidating. It's interesting to compare him to Clooney.

by Anonymousreply 36August 27, 2017 7:18 PM

He's a drunk who wears toupees.

by Anonymousreply 37August 27, 2017 7:58 PM

The Division. He makes an awkward sort of presence in that show.

Oh dear, someone's upset Jon's Datalounge Defender at R35

by Anonymousreply 38August 27, 2017 8:06 PM

his cock deserves its own series

by Anonymousreply 39August 27, 2017 8:08 PM

Wouldn't his dick be hanging out of his swim shorts?

Just looking at the dimensions of the beast that lives in Jon Hamm's pants, the swim shorts seem like dangerous attire.

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by Anonymousreply 40August 27, 2017 8:17 PM

He's a drunk, and a mean one at that. Pretty well known around the studios.

by Anonymousreply 41August 27, 2017 8:17 PM

he's a drunk, but not a mean one

by Anonymousreply 42August 27, 2017 8:23 PM

He comes across as a very nice man.

by Anonymousreply 43August 27, 2017 8:27 PM

R27, I think he's wearing those because it's a shot from Mad Men filming.

by Anonymousreply 44August 28, 2017 12:20 AM

No R37, he's just one of those guys who always looks sweaty and not in a good way (think Gerard Butler.) Like the alcohol from the previous night's bender is sweating out through his pores.

by Anonymousreply 45August 28, 2017 12:32 AM

Oops! R45 is in response to R35.

by Anonymousreply 46August 28, 2017 12:34 AM

No R46, he looked sweaty in Mad Men because that was a decision they made for his character.

That's not his normal look.

Unlike other TV actors (e.g., cast of "Lost") he's still getting a lot of very good supporting roles and at-bats for starring roles. Most actors would kill for his career.

by Anonymousreply 47August 28, 2017 12:38 AM

I want his 9" balls-deep inside me, thrusting and thrusting away until he blows his massive load.

by Anonymousreply 48August 28, 2017 12:46 AM

Very handsome but everytime I see him I can't get that image of his horribly hazing that pledge out of my head. Like he wanted to gleefully rip the balls off that guy with the claws of a hammer. Kind of like tying your dog to the roof of your car driving it around and terrorizing it.

Sadistic shit which barely stops short of mutilation and terrible bodily harm.

by Anonymousreply 49August 28, 2017 3:08 AM

Everyone knows the Claw hammer abuse and the fact he doesn't have lips. That's really it.

by Anonymousreply 50August 28, 2017 7:13 AM

R1 is right up there with all of the homely "straight guys" who want to be fucked by Hamm.

by Anonymousreply 51August 28, 2017 7:19 AM

No lips!

by Anonymousreply 52August 28, 2017 7:28 AM

It's worth noting that Owen Gleiberman thinks Kristen Stewart is a brilliant actress, and one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood. So...

by Anonymousreply 53August 28, 2017 10:14 AM

I agree with people saying that he's not a movie star. He is a TV star and that's fine. The problem is when someone become a success because of an iconic character they played, it's almost impossible for the public to accept them as anyone else. Jason Alexander, Henry Winkler, Shelley Long, Aaron Paul, Megan Mullaly etc

But there are exceptions, like Ted Danson. Of course Ted Danson doesn't have a nasty hazing incident hanging over him.

As an actor you're better off as John Slattery, who works consistently and has for 30 years at least. He's always the best friend, the love interest, the sexy older man. Never the star and it's worked brilliantly for him.

by Anonymousreply 54August 28, 2017 11:12 AM

He is losing his looks, he was much more handsome in the beginning of Mad Men

by Anonymousreply 55August 28, 2017 11:22 AM

Everybody was more handsome 10 years ago, r55.

by Anonymousreply 56August 28, 2017 11:28 AM

He looks like he has a ripe, musky smell from too much testosterone. Gross! Total dick wilter.

by Anonymousreply 57August 28, 2017 2:29 PM

R57 like her men to look like THIS >>

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by Anonymousreply 58August 28, 2017 2:34 PM

R58 That's what gay men call a "masculine guy".

by Anonymousreply 59August 28, 2017 2:36 PM

What r34 said. He can work great in the right role but calling him a "great actor" is a stretch.

by Anonymousreply 60August 28, 2017 2:41 PM

I will add, he was not great in Baby Driver. Jamie Foxx was a much better villain and the movie suffered when it switched to Hamm as the primary antagonist.

by Anonymousreply 61August 28, 2017 2:42 PM

I recently saw him in Marjorie Prime he played the part of Marries deceased husband who comes back as a computer generated hologram. Good movie worth seeing.

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by Anonymousreply 62August 28, 2017 2:50 PM

Marjorie not Marries^^ dam auto correct!

by Anonymousreply 63August 28, 2017 2:51 PM

I really liked him in Mad Men, but nothing since.

Especially when Tina Fey would cast him in comedy just so she could ride that dick.

He obviously has a limited range, but is good within that range.

by Anonymousreply 64August 28, 2017 2:55 PM

He's too old, and looks even older. It's all about sequels these days and they need younger actors.

by Anonymousreply 65August 28, 2017 2:58 PM

R55, he's 10 years older now. No one looks the same after a decade.

by Anonymousreply 66August 28, 2017 3:07 PM

I can't believe a grown man devoted energy to writing such a stupid article.

by Anonymousreply 67August 28, 2017 3:11 PM

It's not the hazing incident so much as it is the drinking problem.

I don't know if he has it under control now.

by Anonymousreply 68August 28, 2017 3:15 PM

He simply is not a good actor. He should be doing gay porn.

by Anonymousreply 69August 28, 2017 3:20 PM

He looks like a leading man but is really a (fairly limited) character actor. He's also 46 and a notorious drunk. Simple, really.

by Anonymousreply 70August 28, 2017 3:30 PM

I know right R67

I want to tweet Owen and write, "I'm embarrassed for both of us"

by Anonymousreply 71August 28, 2017 3:31 PM

[quote]Yet let’s be honest: If you compare him to the two other greatest actors of the new golden age of television, Bryan Cranston and the late James Gandolfini, Hamm, on “Mad Men,” had a tall-dark-and-handsome sharky elegance combined with a glamorous film-noir danger that made him seem, uniquely, like the 21st-century version of a classic movie star (think Robert Mitchum with a touch of Gregory Peck).

Huh? Is the writer trying to say that Hamm was the most handsome/moviestar-ish of this trio, so he should be a movie star?

What an embarrassing article. I wonder if Jon Hamm's people paid him to write it.

by Anonymousreply 72August 28, 2017 3:38 PM

Let's be honest, Jon Hamm was made for soap operas. If the US had more legitimate soap operas like Great Britain has EastEnders and Coronation Street, Hamm would have a huge career.

by Anonymousreply 73August 28, 2017 3:42 PM

Because he is a mean drunk.

by Anonymousreply 74August 28, 2017 3:45 PM

[quote]the 21st-century version of a classic movie star (think Robert Mitchum with a touch of Gregory Peck

Neither Robert Mitchum nor Gregory Peck would be famous today, just like neither Ryan Gosling or Jake Gyllenhaal would be famous in 1950. Gregory Peck has a lookalike/soundalike grandson, Ethan Peck, who has had only limited success in television. Armie Hammer, who is reminiscent of midcentury stars like Rock Hudson or George Peppard, is struggling to establish an identity in indies. In fact, Jon Hamm was cast in Mad Men precisely because he recalled mid-century glamour, after struggling in Hollywood for years.

by Anonymousreply 75August 28, 2017 4:40 PM

His body is surprisingly pasty and flabby. I was so disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 76August 28, 2017 5:09 PM

Has Owen Gleiberman lost his mind?

I respect him as a critic (even if I rarely agree with him). But Hollywood isn't making any of the types of movies he's proposing for Hamm. No one is making those movies nowadays. And Hamm as Superman? Dear god.

If anyone should know this, Gleiberman should.

by Anonymousreply 77August 28, 2017 5:36 PM

How tall is he? He doesn't look very tall

by Anonymousreply 78August 28, 2017 7:25 PM

Hamm would be an awful Superman, because his characters always project selfishness.

by Anonymousreply 79August 28, 2017 7:31 PM

Is Owen Gleiberman a gay? Did Jon Hamm let him suckle on the hammaconda for him to write this laughable piece?

by Anonymousreply 80August 28, 2017 7:33 PM

Did Jennifer Westfeldt need vaginal rejuvenation surgery because of Hamm's thick and long 9'?

by Anonymousreply 81August 28, 2017 8:13 PM

Puff piece in Esquire, with plenty of gorgeous photos.

They address that hazing incident as well.

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by Anonymousreply 82April 6, 2018 7:44 PM

Did that guy he beat and set on fire in college ever reconcile with him?

by Anonymousreply 83April 6, 2018 7:49 PM

[quote]in the same way that playing a violent sociopath with choppy shaved hair in “Baby Driver” was an adventurous role for him.

That film had some of the worst acting I've seen lately, including Hamm's (very obvious) acting.

by Anonymousreply 84April 6, 2018 8:32 PM

Hamm's just that: a ham and egger of an actor.

He was decent in the town but that's about it.

Also, he's a fake guy and all about image and a real shmuck.

by Anonymousreply 85April 6, 2018 8:35 PM
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