Barefoot Contessa versus The Pioneer Woman Deathmatch

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Pioneer Woman's husband, Ladd, has a huge dick. Even Cowboy Josh says so.

Barefoot Contessa's husband is a closet homosexual. Even TR says so.

Seriously, does Ina cook anymore? Everytime I turn on her show, she's arranging a cheese platter.

Even if all Ina Garten ever did was arrange a cheese platter, she'd still be 1000 times better cook than Ree Drummond. And a much nicer person with far preferable politics -- not to mention all those nice gay friends (who wouldn't even be allowed to set foot in Oklahoma, much less on the Drummond ranch).

Ree = the Oklahoman Sandra Lee . She and Ina Garten should not even ever be mentioned in the same sentence.

Neither one would ever be as bold as to make something like a Kwansaa Cake.

At least with Ina there is no pretense. She's a rich bitch and she doesn't hide it. Ree probably has more money than Ina and Jeffery put together. Those huge ranches are worth hundreds of millions and there is all the shit she sells, including now cookware. She pretends like she does all her own cleaning and that she and her husband and those weird kids do all the ranch work when I'm sure none of them have done a day of physical labor in their lives. Plus Ree's family is filthy. They come in from supposedly working with cow shit and never wash their hands before they eat. Ree touches raw chicken and other raw protein and touches half the things in her kitchen without washing her hands. They're a filthy rich family with the emphasis on filthy.

Her fame may be relatively quiet — she doesn’t have a line of cookware, there isn’t a namesake restaurant — but make no mistake: Ina Garten is a powerhouse celeb chef.

Fans know her story well: From a White House budget analyst to specialty food-store owner, her path to stardom has been slow and steady. In 1978 she bought the Barefoot Contessa in East Hampton; after 20 years she quit and sold it to the employees, only then embarking on cookbooks. Her first was published in 1999.

Now, with her eighth cookbook (Barefoot Contessa: Foolproof ) out and her show entering its 11th year, the publicity-shy chef has plenty to dish about.

1. She cooks only from her cookbooks. “I trust them,” she says. And after all these years, she still prefers a recipe over winging it. “I’m a science person. I measure everything.”

2. She’s never watched herself on TV. “I couldn’t possibly. If I watched a show, I don’t think I’d ever do it again,” she laughs. “Filming is still the most frightening thing I’ve done. It’s just sheer terror. I haven’t gotten used to it yet.”

3. She eschews fancy foods. “When I did fancy things in the store, nobody really bought them. People wanted roast chicken and roasted carrots. I’m inspired by specialty food-store recipes as opposed to restaurants.” For dinner parties, her go-to meal is equally simple: whiskey sours, rack of lamb and orzo with roasted vegetables. “Everyone loves it. It never fails.”

4. She refuses to endorse products. “I’ve been asked to do everything from dining tables to clothing — who would want me to do their clothing? — to soy sauce,” she says. “Yesterday I was asked to do something with the United Nations. I mean, solve the problems of the world? Yeah, I’ll make everyone chicken pot pie and they’ll be happy [laughs]!”

5. She works only with friends. “A lot of people have asked to be guests, but I really keep it to friends. I don’t think you can fake a party,” she says. A new and notable favorite: Tina Fey. “She’s wonderful. She’s everything you think she is and gorgeous to boot.”

6. She admires Bobby Flay. “How does he do it? He blows me away. He has restaurants all over the world, cookbooks, television shows. I can’t imagine how he does it, and he does them all well,” she says.

7. She doesn’t cook for herself. “Cooking is a sharing thing; it’s not about the cooking itself,” she says. “If I’m by myself, I’ll have fruit, yogurt and granola or get soup from somewhere nearby, like Loaves & Fishes.”

8. She’s happily type A. “I’m satisfied when something is done very well. I feel I need to have my hands in it. My publisher will tell you that there isn’t a font or color or recipe or ingredient I haven’t been involved with. I don’t have a lot of people around me; I do it all myself, so that limits what I can do. But for me, I find that very satisfying.”

9. She’s more pop savvy than you’d think. “I’m a huge Taylor Swift fan,” she admits. And her favorite shows? Serial dramas, like Homeland.

10. She loves Thanksgiving. “It’s my favorite meal to make each year,” she says. On this year’s menu: Accidental Turkey from Foolproof, spinach gratin, truffle mashed potatoes and pumpkin pie with rum. “Booze is always my secret weapon!” she jokes.

[quote] Ree probably has more money than Ina and Jeffery put together.

If any of the net worth estimates, out there, are correct; then no the Drummonds are not richer than the Gartens. No they don't have hundreds of millions of dollars.

But..... Ree can't sop grinning. She grins constantly. I just want to get a big ol' juicy cow patty and throw it in her face. There! I've had my say!

[quote] She refuses to endorse products.

And meet with little children from the Make A Wish Foundation who are dying.

[quote]But..... Ree can't sop grinning. She grins constantly.

If you had Ladd's big dick in you every night, you'd be constantly grinning too.

Love Ina! ❤👍

I loved Ina til I went to see her in a big theatre and do a Q&A. Tickets were expensive and it was billed as a tour where the audience could ask her questions. She came out on stage and was interviewed by her friend who owns a restaurant here. The questions were obviously given to the interviewer by Ina's team because they were all the same things that were on her web site or facts that every fan of hers would already know: : Tell me Ina, how did you come to own Barefoot Contessa? What is Jeffrey's favorite meal? She took about 8 questions from the audience and seemed really detached. If you wanted to meet her after and get a book signed you had to pay a ton extra. I was so pissed off for wasting the money I haven't watcher her much since.

Ina vs. Ree: Season 3 of Feud starring Kathy Bates as Ina and Christine Ebersole as Ree.

The whole fake scenario that shows like this set up makes me crazy. "My friend TR is coming over for Christmas dinner, even though all the leaves are still on the trees and I'm clearly filming this is July". "Ladd is out on the range castrating a bull. I'm here making a pot of chili". Just show how to cook the food, I don't need a theme.

Fuck those hicks.

Give me Ina any day.

Next up: Trisha Yearwood vs. Valerie Bertinelli.

On the undercard: Nancy Fuller vs. Tiffani Thiessen.

Ugh, those names right there, R18 is why the FN is worthless and useless now.

Who the hell told these women they could cook? Hell, who the fuck told these women they could teach other women about cooking?????

Haven't watched FN in months, or even years.

Nancy Fuller can cook. She gets a little annoying with that GiGi juice.

Trisha Yearwood always has to have her goofy sister on the show. She is boring and thinks she has to laugh at everything Tricia says.

Ina would win.

She would just have to release one of her deadly farts into Ree's face, and Ree would melt into a glob of butter (which comprises 88.78% of her body mass).

Then Ina would use her as a sautee for her famous bacon and brussell sprouts recipe.

I hate Nancy Fuller. But Valerie and her show (and her recipes) are all wonderful.

Valerie has really porked up.

So has Tricia Yearwood

Never trust a skinny cook.

[quote] rack of lamb and orzo with roasted vegetables. “Everyone loves it. It never fails.”

I don't know anyone who eats lamb. I ate it once in Paris and it was gamey. I doubt her friends would tell her that they didn't like it, so she just assumes that they all love it.

I met her several years ago at an upscale grocery store when she was promoting her baking mixes and cookbook. She was pleasant enough, but I wouldn't call her warm and friendly. She definitely has a superior air about her. From watching her show, it's clear that she only surrounds herself with other wealthy and accomplished people.

There are worse things to be than wealthy and accomplished (especially the latter). Drummond's circle seems to consist of uneducated bigots who inherited family fortunes that are based on land stolen from Native Americans -- they don't think & she can't cook. I'd rather spend time with the Gartens & their pals any day.

And if that's not enough for you, consider Blue Cheese Cole Slaw!

Team Ina! Most of her recipes are not overly complicated, but you have to be sure to buy the best quality ingredients (as we should all do, anyway). I have nothing against Ree, but I've never seen her cook anything I'd cook myself.

Ina Garten is a Hamptons Martha Stewart type. "Only the BEST QUALITY all-purpose flour!" But we know this woman pounds down the Doritos and Chips Ahoy! when the cameras are off, right?

Ina > Ree.

Well if you like your food prepared by someone who walks around in their bare feet, then so be it. She probably stirs her chowder with her big toe.

When Ree's star began to rise a few years ago, a cottage industry of seething hate sprang up in the form of anti-Ree blogs. She got tons of shit for being fake, lifting recipes from church cookbooks, etc.

I love Barefoot Contessa. I love her house. I like Ree but I suspect she's a Trump supporter...

Ree is zzzz

Trisha Yearwood is a fat fuck again. Big as a house.

R36 I'd recognize your tone of Schadenfreude anywhere, Shannon Beador!

OMG I just discovered that the glamorously moonfaced Tiffani Amber-Thiessen has a show on Food Network!

Ina. Although I don't know this Pioneer person.

I don't love the whole lifestyle aspect of Ina's thing, her food is good.

I feel like Ree's is a terribly dark and abusive household.

No joke, every time I hear the term "white privilege," I picture Ina Garten swooning over her baked chicken and giddy about what spectacular cheese Jeffrey has en route to her peony-topped table.

Ree has Hollywood-perfect Frankenteeth. Why does a ranch hand on an Oklahoma plantation need $40k of veneers?

Ree and Ina both cook all day waiting for Lad/Jeffrey to come home from a hard day's work. Does anyone live that way anymore?

I've made a lot if Ina's recipes, and they are family favorites now at Thanksgiving and Christmas. Her spinach gratin is wonderful as are the scalloped potatoes.

Ree is vile. I don't give a fuck if Ladd's dick is 12 inches. She makes trashy food for a trashy audience. Maybe the family is worth a fortune, but screw her and her black/grey roots. I hope one of her sons turns out to be gay. That would be the best!

[quote] I hope one of her sons turns out to be gay. That would be the best!

Though not necessarily for the son.

Ladd and Cowboy Josh fuck! Ree knows too, but is in denial.

I wonder what else amuses r46.

Ree Drummond is the most obnoxious Cunt that ever Cunted! She's worthless.

Don't be around Ina Farten when she cuts one. Pee-you!!!!!!!

It was the weekend before Thanksgiving, and I'd caught an episode of "The Barefoot Contessa." One of the recipes in the episode was oven roasted Brussel Sprouts and Pancetta. A perfect side dish for next week's dinner!

Toward the end of the episode, Ina and her guests gathered in her dining room to enjoy the meal she'd prepared. The camera panned over to Ina as she toasted her friends. Over her left shoulder in the background was a collection of music CD's on a shelf. The CD in the front of the row was Roxy Music's "Avalon." There is no mistaking its cover's iconic artwork. This CD would never be found in the Drummond home.

Ina rules, and wins.

Ina is pretentious. That one show where she prepared the same meal for her "friends" in Paris then came and prepared the same meal for her "friends" in the US was too much. Plus, she's a gay user. She uses her gays, then when she gets tired of them, she discards them like the wrapper on her Baker's Chocolate.

I like pretentiousness.

R51 = TR

Ina's super-pretentious sheer-curtains-blowing-in-the-Hamptons-breeze thing turned me off to her immediately when she first materialized. Eventually I must have been bored enough to give her a chance and she grew on me. I like that she seems to be kind of down to earth and a real cook instead of the pseudo celebs on the Food Network. If only she would give up the storyline bullshit. Jeffrey is always surprising her on his way home...with production crew in tow. Food porn is like porn porn: usually forcing a storyline is gratuitous and risks ruining the whole thing.

R38 She doesn't use the "-Amber" anymore, and hasn't for years. And her show is mainly on The Cooking Channel, not Food Network. Her recipes are actually pretty good, and she has a lot of fun guest stars (mostly people she's worked with throughout her career.)

R55 Has Zack joined her in the kitchen with his toga??!

R56 Is his penis as large as it is uncut?

R58 Nooooooo! Is it?!

Yes, R59. He shows up on every Famous Uncircumcised Men list.

Mark-Paul and the missus have been on Tiffani's show.

All your heroines have feet of clay...awwww. Some of you broads need hobbies, seriously!

I like both shows. I'm with Ina on the cooking for yourself thing-if I'm alone, anything that requires more than my trusty, old Farberware 'leckrick skillet is off the menu. I love Ree too-some of us have Mid-western roots and hearty fare and wide-open spaces (the terra firma sort) appeal to something inside us.

But what am I saying, SF and NY are loaded for bear with pretensious fly-over refugees. The sort who leave tony cooking magazines arranged just-so on the passenger seat of their cars, like one woman I work with does.

R48 Ree was adorable on small wonder.

I don't get all the Ree hate. She reminds me of Bree from Desperate housewives. I don't know if it's the red hair or the round face.

R64 I think it's the repressed human emotion and latent rage.

Every show and host on FN are fake. Valerie tapes at a studio so it's all bullshit that these "friends" are dropping by her home. When a FN host "surprises" someone I wonder how the person they're surprising missed seeing the lights and cameras in their home. In the old days Emeril and Rachel made no pretense. They were doing a cooking show that actually taught something and didn't pretend they weren't in a studio. Now FN is as fake as all reality shows and really that's what it's become, that and the Game Network. Does anyone believe that Next FN Star or whatever it's called is real or that Worst Cooks or the Truck shows or any of them?

If you like fake reality watch FN. If you want to learn how to cook watch PBS. Lidia really used to tape in her home and when she switched to a studio she made no pretense otherwise. I'm not saying Lidia is a good person, she's not but at least her show isn't fake. She once even acknowledged on the show that the crew gets to eat most of the food prepared on her show. Stewart, Jacques Pépin, back in the day, Julia, none of them have or had fake shows. The only bone I can think of to pick about PBS cooking shows is that Jazzy Vegetarian. I can't imagine the food she tastes actually tastes good, well, maybe to her it does.

Who?

R66 Do you think viewers and people here don't know that the kitchens are studios and no in people's homes? (Do you really think that?)

I love Nigella. So much. She makes me hungry.

My favorite Food Network host is perhaps one of its most boring, Sara Moulton. She was on in the early years, and she used to do an instructional live cooking show in which she had to improvise a dinner with ingredients producers gave her while explaining cooking processes and nutrition and while fielding live calls from viewers. I learned so much watching her.

[quote]I'm not saying Lidia is a good person, she's not

Why is she not a good person?

Loved Robin Miller's show and recipes, especially this one. Instead of using the bean/chicken filling for preparing enchiladas, we portion and freeze it for later use in taco salads, nachos, and a quick high-protein, fat-free lunch item or a quick dinner with brown rice.

Add a few (just a few) TBSPs of taco seasoning and a dash of Cayenne pepper to spice it up! (If the recipe is in need of more moisture during the cooking process, have salsa readily available to add for such purpose.)

R70 Why Lidia is not a good person:

^^ I think that hair she has is gorgeous.

(I'm using "hair" in the singular)

How do you arrange a cheese platter? I have "steakhouse onion" cheese and Tillamook.

Ina just farted and caused an explosion!

I prefer Ina, she's a true elitist and everything around her has to be first class and high-end. Only the best, and she makes no bones about it either. By the way. She's definitely wealthier than the Drummond's. How can she not be? A just because ree's family have a ranch it doesn't mean their richer. Ina travels in a powerful money circle. You better believe her and Jefferies money is being well invested by only the best. A ranch dosent mean anything.

Do Ina and Jeffrey have any children?

R76 is Ina

Jeffeey is a big mo.

R77 , Jeffrey has had ass babies several times but seems unable to carry them full term.

R77 -You're so sweet. Have you ever watched the show? Sure, she has "children." (LMAO!)

Ree Drummond is a fat, ugly, nasty homophobic whore with a repressed homosexual husband.

Ree is a redneck hillbilly

Ree smells 'down there'.

I much prefer Ina, but some people's ignorance is astounding. Ree's in-laws are one of the top 20 land-owners in the US at over 400,000 acres, plus additional land they have bought.

R85 who fucking cares? She can jam every acre up her fat, droopy meat-curtained twatcunt. She's a horrible person and a certifiable psychopath, everyone knows that.

R77 Ina and Jeffrey decided not to have kids. They wanted all the food to themselves

Love Ina, hate Ree!

Or rather, I love Ina's world, and wish I was rich and well-connected enough to spend my days tootling around the local high-end shops and my fabulous herb garden, before having the local eldergays over for dinner. It's the quiet, pleasant, seemingly simple life I aspire to, and I'm always happy to see it on TV. I even like Ina as a host, the person she plays on TV would be a pleasant companion for an afternoon of shopping or at a dinner on the beach.

Drummond, on the other hand, is an irritating presence on the TV, and if I were forced to live on that ranch of hers I'd be so desperate to get away that I'd run off to the local highway and put my thumb out for a ride. If that didn't work, I'd put up a sign offering a blowjob for every 100 miles away from there.

The Drummond family slaughters cows for a living. What more need be said?

Both are hacks. I do prefer Ina but that's showering it with faint praise. She's aggressively middlebrow when it comes to her cooking but it'll impress the same crowd that's still hung up on granite countertops and stainless steel appliances who aspire to her *fabulous Hamptons lifestyle*.

We eagerly await your culinary creations, R30. Please include photos of the kitchenette in your double-wide. We'll wait.

Oh, how wrong you are, R91... Projecting much?

Ina's so fat. She has gas stored up. If she cut one big fart, she'd weigh 250 lbs less than she does now. Fat pig.

400,000 acres in so Podunk town isn't the same as 400,000 acres in California.

Really? How insightful!

Valerie, Ree, Tiffani, Ina and Trisha all are doing shows from their homes. All them frequently go outside, and you can tell it's a real house, not a studio. Trisha used to do stuff from her and Garth's house in Oklahoma, but a few seasons back she switched to her own place in Nashville.

Paula Deen used to shoot her show from a kitchen that was built on her property.

Now that we've had our way with Ina and Bree, shall we turn our undivided attention to Ina's former best friend (please)?

Please, Bree from DH wouldn't be caught dead anywhere near that hillbilly bitch.

I love Ina. Her recipes are fabulous. Ree serves slop for the hicks.

Ina needs to lose weight. She has fat lady smell.

In doesn't smell, other than the occasional poot

Ina for sure. Call it northeast cosmopolitan elitism if you want, but her recipes are elegant and doable. Ree makes blah food and her "down home" rancher crap is just that, manufactured BS.

Ina's a harmless eccentric. Ree and her brand represent the absolute worst of American culture. Her meals are more heart attack inducing than Sandra Lee's, but without the "everyone's fun drunk aunt" charm. Just eat three sticks of butter per meal, live in isolation, homeschool your kids, obey your pastor, vote Republican and die of a heart attack. Yeah, THAT'S the dream.

Die-a-Ree-uh!

Do you think Ree does anal? Does she rim Ladd?

I would, but I'm not a hillbilly hag.

I prefer Ina, since her recipes are usually pretty straightforward, although you need to be sure that you're sourcing the best ingredients. R69, Yes, Sara Moulton started as an assistant to Julia Child. She's really awesome and shows how to cook with what you have in front of you (which is what I learned to do a long time ago). And since Nigella's been mentioned, I'll add this video here, which I stole from another thread, and haven't been able to stop posting it ever since.

R103 nails it. It's also an act- chubby ginger Rhee is the daughter of a Beverly Hills surgeon.

Drummond is the human embodiment of a middle class frau's Pinterest board.,

R107 Ree was raised in Bartlesville, OK, and her father still lives there. Why do you just make shit up?

R108 yep she's a trashy whore

Yes, the business of dragging random people off the street into these "at home" cooking shows and having them pretend to be the dearest old friend of the host is silly, but Ina does a better than average job of it. Her guests tend to be of her own age and social class, which makes them seem like they could be part of a real social circle, and they tend to be less awkward on camera than the average cooking show "guest".

Drummond, on the other hand, drags her children and relatives onto TV. I worry about those kids. Living on an isolated ranch and being home-schooled is a bad enough start in life, but putting them on reality TV as well? CPS should put a stop to that sort of thing.

Rhee, went to USC. Maybe the poor poster upthread has early dementia and thinks that makes her dad a BH doc.

I definitely prefer Ina. Her life is ideal, especially with the wealth and comfort appeal you get from her show. Ree on the other hand really is for the hicks. The wealth is clearly there. Just not the elite glamour and comfort you get from Ina's show.

Alright, I'm sorry guys! Jeez. My mom told me the BH surgeon thing with such intense disdain I assumed it was true!

Ree's father is a now retired orthopedic surgeon. That is one of the highest paid surgeons in part due to big volume. Ortho surgeries aren't that time consuming and sooner or later almost everyone needs one. Yet the fees they get are huge. My neighbor fell and broke her hip. The surgeon alone got 40 grand from Medicare, not counting what the hospital and other OR staff got. The surgery took about 90 minutes. I'm sure doctors who only take top of the line private insurance or out of pocket only make double that.

Ree has never wanted for anything in her life. She went from being a rich kid to being a filthy rich wife.

Imagine how fun cooking would be it like Ree and all the TV cooks we had someone doing all the prep work before and all the clean up afterward and these huge well equipped kitchens to work in. I get that even the richest of the rich might get the urge to cook but you know they are not doing their own chopping and such and certainly not their own clean up. Most likely not even their own shopping or ordering of food. My guess is the only time Ree and her kids ever see the inside of a supermarket is when they show them at one during the filming of her show.

My guess is that Ina doesn't go herself to those wonderful Hampton shops and farm stands but sends staff.

Something about Ina's worship of the baked chicken makes me admire her. It's probably the most absurd thing ever to be featured on the Food Network, and therefore the most Food Network thing ever to have aired on the Food Network. No one is passionate about a baked chicken...and yet I do believe Ina is.

I had no idea about Ree's monied up bringing. I always thought the ranch was good money but that, the food network show was bringing in the money and all of her various business ventures is what was floating the family financially. I guess I don't really know how much money a ranch can generate. Because I don't know much about ranches. I'm a city guy. Sorry.

Let's be real. In Ina's household, Ree would be a member of Ina's catering staff.

If Ree's so damn rich, why doesn't she hire a cook?

Ina Farten stinks up a kitchen. Fat cow.

Forget these women. Thomas Joseph is my go-to authority on kitchen matters. The only problem with his vids is that he is always wearing a shirt.

Custard is one of his favorite things. Right after dick, I'd wager.

Thomas Joseph is clearly adorable. No conundrum there.

It's roast chicken, R115, not baked. Ina's chicken for Jeffrey gave me a whole new appreciation for roast chicken. I hadn't had it in years, and then I saw the show with the chicken roasted on top of carrots, onions, and fennel. Changed my life.

[quote]Let's be real. In Ina's household, Ree would be a member of Ina's catering staff.

R117, Ree couldn't begin to meet Ina's standards for catering staff.

Ina is a great cook, but she is only an average baker. I made these last Xmas and they were awful. I ate a few and threw the rest in the garbage. Her desserts are definitely hit or miss.

R124, are you the Baking Professional?

Ina admits baking isn't her strong suit. And not that Ina is a professional chef, but ask any CIA grad and they will tell you the are judged on 2 things- roast chicken and an omlette. You must master both of these.

Do they need to be able to spell "omelette," R126?

R124 This is when we call in Mary Berry.

Ina farts alot. I know.

R125 I think you are referring to "the experienced baker." (Go to post 131. Also, don't miss 109)

No they don't need to spell, just cook smartass.

I have never cooked smartass, R131. Is low-and-slow the way to go?

Barefoot Contessa hands down.

I got my own cover beeches

There's no way Pioneer Woman is a better cook than Ina Garten. No. Way.

Ina farts the best. No contest there.

Roe's show is running on fumes. She keeps making the same frau recipes over and over again. I don't know how much longer she can keep it up. She's also been looking tired lately and in need of some jowl-tightening.

In the most recent episode, her daughter came back from college for a visit, and she looked like a 40 year old woman. I guess working outside on the ranch during her childhood took a toll on her face.

Does Ree’s pussy stink?

It smells like Ranch dressing and salsa.

R137 the sun is not kind to white people. That's her and her parents fault, for putting her out there in the fields like that.

That Pioneer slag is just one step up from Paula Deen.

I doubt they mentioned what school she goes to?

That school must have a low bar if they take home-schooled kids.

😏😏

I think she goes to SMU or TCU ... something in Texas.

I don't care what Ree's pussy smells like, what about Ladd's crack?

I'll bet you have to have at least a double digit IQ to get into the college the daughter goes to. All Ree's kids look and sound developmentally disabled.

She keeps making the same frau recipes over and over again. I don't know how much longer she can keep it up."

Well that's what real fraus do, they cook their regular recipes over and over! Drummond's whole show is based on the pretense that she's just a regular housefrau cooking up her family's favorite down-home meals, yet they somehow never eat the same thing twice. Her show gives me a mild case of the creeps. Her flat Stepford-wife demeanor, the kids being dragged in front of the camera, the fake folksiness, the pretense that they're not filthy rich. And the thought of those kids being home-schooled in geographical isolation on a huge ranch, and believe me that never happens unless at least one of the parents is a massive control freak who doesn't want one single things in the kdis' heads that they didn't put there. How the hell the kids will cope with becoming reality TV personalities after all that time in a bubble I don't know.

I don't get any of that vibe from Ina and her gay-seeming husband, they've been together for years and have been individually successful, and of course they have no kids to fuck up.;

R115, it's Jeffrey who is the roasted chicken freak. He insists on a roasted chicken dinner once per week, Ina's even said that after a while it's hard to make it interesting.

Has anyone ever tried her trick of sticking cut up lemons inside the cavity of the bird? Does it really make a difference in flavor?

Adding lemon to roasting chickens makes a difference, and adding fresh lemon juice to the pan drippings makes a fantastic sauce. Roast chicken should never be made without lemon.

The lemon's acid tenderizes the meat during the cooking process. To give the meat more depth and flavor, include a few (just a few) garlic cloves, a few sprigs of fresh Rosemary, and salt and pepper, of course (to "marry" the flavors).

One more tip: rub "really good" Olive Oil under the breast skin to keep it moist. Truss it up before placing it in the oven. Once the bird has finished cooking, remove from pan, and immediately cover the bird with foil and allow it to 'rest' for 30 minutes before carving. Otherwise, missing this step will guarantee a dried bird is served.

I didn't realize what a difference the resting step makes. I let my baked salmon rest under a tinfoil tent for about 10 minutes, the fish feels meatier somehow.

That's a long time for salmon, R150.

Even though a dish (food) has been removed from the oven, the cooking process continues until the dish (food) cools on its own. The primary reason for the 'resting period' (meat) is to allow its juices to redistribute during the cooling process, ensuring the dish/food is moist for serving.

Jeffrey says that I have the smelliest farts. Even smellier than his boyfriends.

I imagine the Drummonds home school those nitwits for the same reason a lot of people do it. To keep them from having to associate with "the coloreds" in public school. I have little doubt both she and Ladd are as racist as hell.

I love Ina and her recipes tend to be simple. i love the shows, when she says fuck it, and just makes drinks. I find her very relatable compared to anyone else.

The I kill cows women makes be sick, VILE.

I'd be happy to go to one of Ina's dinner parties. She has great friends. Although I wonder how many of those shents she owns? Probably dozens.

Ree is vile.

I cook. A lot. I am a scientist by profession but my mom was a trained Master Chef, and my dad was a Master baker. They had a bakery when I was growing up and I can honestly say it was the best bakery have ever seen, anywhere. My mom's frequent dinner arties were amazing and I learned to cook from her.

I Have made Ina Garten' s roast chicken, but generally don't follow her because of the retentiousness. However I have folks Ree Drummond for years, mainly from her blog and her cookbooks. Not weighing in for either camp, but wanted to correct some errors here.

So first of all there was a New Yorker profile of ree Drummond a few years ago that really surprised me. First of all she and Ladd are progressive liberals. I swear it's true. Not so sure about Ladd' s parents,but the current generations? Liberal. Not often discussed cuz as you can imagine, not so good for business. The crowd the pioneer woman caters to is middle middle class and a lot of them are anti liberal elite. But what the Drummonds are first and foremost, are savvy entrepreneurs. According to the New Yorker, Tee and Ladd are all about creating a power dynasty. The drummonds are huge ranchers in OK, but Ladd' s dad has made a point of saying they are in the business of growing and selling grass. Much of their acreage is leased. Tee has generated way more of their money than the cattle ranching enterprise has.

The liberal progressive mindset is also why she homeschools. They are not racist (she's a USC alum and quite Hilary-esque). Ladd by the way went to the U of Arizona i believe and majored in business and marketing. So dismissing them as redneck bumpkins is inaccurate.

Now Ree is a ROTTEN baker. Seriously, I know my standards ad very high, but honestly, she cannot bake. Her recies on the other hand are good. They are. Admittedly, i can tell by reading a recipe if it will be any good or not, but the recipes of hers i HAVE made at excellent. She and Bobby flay had a thanksgiving cook-off and Ree won. Lots of oh inaccuracies in this thread but these were the most obvious in need of correction

Now aside from the fact that Paula Deen showed her ass talking wrongly about Black people, and she did do penance for that. She did pay a price, commeasurate with her crime, Paula Deen as a cook is far superior to anything Pioneer woman ever did. Paula is not Ina, but she is not a bad cook. And both Ina and Paula will have you in your coffin with all the butter and fat, and the creme, and the sweets and gooey stuff. I personally love Paula Deen. Ina too.

R158, for you.

I is what I is.

R159 LOL

Paula has since said that Tootie was her favorite on The Facts of Life.

So if they're liberal progressives what is the problem with public/private schools, R157?

Maybe schools in Okie land are too conservative? To bible-belt-y?

Not challenging enough? That's what I don't understand.

I'll admit, I stopped watching because I really did think they were conservative repugs.

But you might have convinced me to try watching again.

Yeah, Ladd went to Az for school. I remember them saying that back when I still watched.

R163, yes. I think Pauhuzka OK was a bit too conservative for their educational needs

R157

R147, I've not tried that, it seems unnecessarily invasive.

Okay, I can see how that would be a reason to home school.

Maybe I'll tune in again, I need some recipes for the fall/winter months.

Casseroles, here I come!

Ree can't cook for shit, baking or otherwise. Most of her stuff could be made by a 10 year old.

Great that they are so liberal, maybe Ladd will present- only thing that would interest me. I can go to the library for church cookbooks and find the same crap.

Ree has elephantitis face

My god, Rhee was preparing beef tenderloin today on one of her shows and there were 2 pieces,

Those damn things were huge and must have been about one hundred dollars, EACH!

They were a little too red for my taste, I would've left them a while longer.

[quote]Those damn things were huge and must have been about one hundred dollars, EACH!

Not if you own a cattle ranch.

Definitely Barefoot Contessa.

OH, heh, forgot about that.

You're right, of course, R171.

☺️☺️

I saw this older episode when she was making things for after church and I counted. She said church 17 times in the episode. Doesn't sound very Liberal to me. It was like "Oh for those who didn't hear me the first 16 times yes, I really am a good Christian and my family and I really do go to church."

What's the proof that they're Liberal. Well, for starters I guess they don't say grace before eating. Then again they don't wash the cow shit off their hands before eating either.

I’d take Ree’s farts anyday over Ina’s! Fucking pee- you! Never ever stand by Ina. She cuts farts that’ll test your sense of smell.

One of Ladd's African-American college friends visited from Arizona on one episode.

I saw that episode, R170!

That tenderloin looked SOOOOOOOOO delicious. Salt, sugar and black peppercorn dry rub, and then when she pulled it out of the oven, she doused it with melted butter flavored with garlic. All cooked to medium rare. That made me SO hungry!

And her garlic mashed potatoes loaded with butter, heavy cream, half-and-half, and roasted garlic looked absolutely delicious.

Man, I would love to be friends with the Drummonds. Steak and potatoes for life!

Does Ree have elephantitis face? She’s not an attractive woman.

Ree is part of the new bastardized Pillsbury Bake-off Contest.

I hate everything about Drummond's aesthetics. From her round, ruddy face to her tacky ass serveware.

I don't care what her politics are. She is tacky.

One of Ree's latest projects is a hotel in Pawhuska. Just think .... stay there, book and appointment at the spa and you could get a facial from Cowboy Josh!

[quote]Ree can't cook for shit

Obviously you haven't experienced The Jazzy Vegetarian.

[quote] stay there, book and appointment at the spa and you could get a facial from Cowboy Josh!

Me first! Me first!

Ina cut a nuclear bomb. Pee you!

Call her what you wish, but I'm "Team Ina"!

Love her self-professed "scientific approach" to all methods of 'cooking' and 'baking': MEASURE, MEASURE the ratios!

Example: 1/2 tsp of salt = use no more than 1/4 tsp of pepper to complement and 'marry' the herbs and spices. Period.

I heard that Jeffrey likes to "toss Ina's salad" after she cuts a ripe one.

Any truth to that?

Ina worked in the White House’s nuclear policy office under Carter or Ford can’t remember which. She was the furthest thing from a cook, then had a frauey moment and decided to buy a deli (sorry, ‘specialty food store’) that was for sale with no business or food experience. Her leap paid off, it could have been a disaster.

I liked the new season of Barefoot Contessa. Some of her best recipes in awhile, but it only lasted for about 4 episodes. I'm afraid she's getting old and lazy and doesn't feel like putting out more than a few new episodes a year.

Ree, on the other hand, puts out a new episode every single week. I don't know how she does it with the new Mercantile store and restaurant. She's a true workaholic.

Ima Farten wanted to do more than 4 episodes but all the crew quit after her explosive gas being expelled. They evacuated.

Ina's farts smell better than any dish TrashRee has ever made.

Barefoot C does not seem to be important on FN any longer. I used to get home from work and she'd be on everyday at 5pm and it was a perfect time to watch her. Now she's on weekends at weird times. Sick of the constant boring competition shows

What happened to the new Food Network Star winner? Did they have a show that aired yet? The black girl who won last year - Trigea - never saw her show air.

You know, repeating fart jokes several thousand times doesn't make them any funnier.

r188 A lot of Ree's recent shows have been clip jobs assembled from old shows.

I gave R192 a dutch oven last Saturday night. It was definitely not funny, but she loved it.

[quote]Barefoot C does not seem to be important on FN any longer.

That's true. They moved the new season to early Sunday morning. Who watches TV on Sunday morning? They give Ree the prime Saturday morning slot, so you know who the bigger star is.

I hope they at least give Ina a Thanksgiving or Christmas special this year. It's been 2 years since she had an hour-long special.

Ima Farter has her own line of dutch ovens.

Does anyone think Ree actually runs that Murc place herself or put in any real work other than counting her money? My guess is the only time she ever cooks is when the cameras are running. The same for her husband and kids. Does anyone think they actually do physical labor? If so I have a bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you.

Do we really need someone to tell us that butter, cream and roasted garlic is good in mashed potatoes? Who doesn't know how to make mashed potatoes with or without garlic?

Ina was a hard worker. She learned how to run that store from the bottom up. She was there every day at 4 or 5 am for years. She was already wealthy and didn't have to do that, but she did. I don't cook that much anymore except for simple quick but healthy things because of an accident that permanently injured my spine but I used to make very complicated things and I never tried a recipe of Ina's that didn't turn out great the first time.

Ina’s such a sweetheart - like when she broke the dying kids heart. Cunt.

Food Network has really cut way back on the so-called "stand-and-stir" shows. Everything is contests and Guy Fieri. And they introduced The Cooking Channel to have mostly instructional shows, and now it's been polluted by the same crap that's on the parent network.

The Cooking Channel started out good, but now it's shows like Carnival Eats. Who wants to watch a show about carnival food? I get queasy just thinking about it.

The only non straight instructional cooking show I watch on FN is Chopped Jr. I'm sure it's as fake as regular chopped but the kids seem a tiny bit more genuine. Other than that I watch Saturday and Sunday mornings only. PBS is my regular cooking channel now, especially Create. I saw a rerun of Martha bakes cookies. Oh man I would love the chocolate one she made but I'm not going to all that trouble for a cookie. About 10 years ago I would have rushed to get the ingredients and make it. Now I just don't have the strength. Besides, I'm older and such food is worse to eat now. Also how the hell much does Belgium chocolate cost?

That's why I think the network has gone to the toilet, R199.

I hate what it's become! I haven't watched in ages.

I also watch the Create cooks. Love the Cooks Country and ATKitchen. Love Martha as well.

Have you seen Christopher Kimball's new show on public TV? It's called Milk Street. Saw my first episode today.

What did you think of it R203? Is it about all aspects of cooking like ATK or more specific to baking or something?

[quote]Have you seen Christopher Kimball's new show on public TV? It's called Milk Street. Saw my first episode today.

I like it, but some of the recipes can get a little too exotic. It's much more sophisticated than his previous shows on PBS. I don't see it having the same appeal to middle America as America's Test Kitchen and Cooks Country. Also, the featured chefs aren't as friendly.

Ree's recipes come straight out of the old gingham Betty Crocker cookbook. For the legion of millennial fraus who aspire to that sort of greatness, she's GREAT!

Christopher Kimball is a fundie, isn’t he?

[quote]Christopher Kimball is a fundie, isn’t he?

First I've heard. He's a heterosexual serial cheater, I thought.

"Five Ingredient Fix," "Ask Aida," "Everyday Italian," "Nigella Bits," "Nadia G's Bitchin' Kitchen," "Quick Fix Meals with Robin Miller," "Cooking for Real," "Down Home with the Neely's," "Healthy Appetite with Ellie Krieger," "Sandra's Money-saving Meals," "Secrets of a Restaurant with Anne Burrell," . . .

All gone.

FN has gone "Cheap." The production costs related to "Cooking Competition" shows are nearly "pennies" in comparison to the production costs related to "On-air Talent (Chefs)" shows.

I used to leave the channel on all day as background noise while I puttered around the house on the weekends.

I got rid of cable when FN went All Contest All The Time.

Chistopher Kimball also had a profile in the New Yorker. He is currently on wife #3. He is apparently widely known as a royal pain i the ass, an is why he lost his own show, America's Test Kitchen. The accounts of how that went down, alone are enough to strike the fear of god in you.

He divorced wife #2 to marry his ATK assistant, and I think they now have a kid? Could be wrong. He does not even try to hide his pretentiousness any more. That documetary he did that is on Netflix (something about a 13 course meal fanny farmer once prepared and served.) They brought in a whole crowd of chefs and practiced the dishes for a year. And prepared all the food as it would have been prepared about 130 years ago. And of course, the night of the actual dinner party, Christopher Kimball holding court in his tie and tails. Honestly, that man should be shunned.

As to proof of Ree Drummond being liberal ---- I was reporting what the New Yorker's reporter had said in a large profile of her. THEY interviewed her and reported it a something most people are surprised by. But I haven't seen anythig to contradict anything they said. Yeah, she gos to church, but you know liberalism does not require atheism. Leave her alone for that. Its not fair ground for criticism.

As to the food prepared ---- yes, Ree Drummond does a lot of the obvious. But as I said, i can read a recipe and decide ahead of time if it is good or not. An of the ones I have tried from Ree Drummond, thy ave ALL turned out well. EXCEPT for her baked goods. The woman is a ROTTEN baker. Just appallingly bad. Stick with Julia Child bakes for that. But Ree Drummond showed me a new way to make pie crust for savory pies, that I am astonished to say is AWESOME. First of all I never really understood when to use butter, margarine or shortening. Now I know. It has to o with water content and melting temperatures. Generally, even though it doesn't taste as good, shortening is better for savory pastries than butter is. And using an egg and vinegar in the dough makes all of the difference in the world! Who knew?

Seriously, for those who cannot stand her, don't watch her show--- I can get that she might be grating. But her recipes really are mostly spot on.

sorry for the typos.

R211

A very beautiful story of how Ladd and Ree met

How Ree is single handedly saving a small town

When Ina eats her cabbage soup......watch out!

On the newest episode, the did a closeup shot of Ree inside her pickup truck, and let me tell you, she looked haggard. She has aged so much in the last few years. She needs a facelift, pronto.

Does anyone know what happened to Nancy Fuller? She hasn't had any new shows in a long time. The last I saw her was a judge on the Holiday Baking Championship. I really miss her show.

R206 I think you mean Better Homes and Gardens.

R204 Some of it is similar to ATK and Cook's Country. They had a live audience for the first cooking demo (similar to the audience for the food tasting on CC). They did several recipes, but all with a similar theme (Central Mexico.) No food tasting or equipment testing. They had a guest on to discuss salt and pepper (and spices.)

r216, that woman is dirty, I would never eat out of her kitchen....and I would never eat her out.

BETTER HIMES AND GARDENS!! That's it. Thanks. I guess I need to turn in my frau card.

Wish there were more episodes of Aarti Party

I liked the real Indian lady that used to cook. Can't remember her name or her show but she said that garam masala was really a combination of spices and you could put it together using whatever spices you liked best.

I liked her a lot. Maybe she was from Canada?

I also liked the kooky Asian that would just start cooking in the middle of the street. She had good recipes as well.

Words of wisdom: Never ever ever ever stand downwind of Ina Farten.

The Ina farting jokes are getting on my fucking nerves! There not even funny. Why is it that every time there's an Ina thread, the talking about fart starts up. It's really fucking annoying and irritating to keep seeing that. So please fucking knock it off.

I put him on ignore, R224.

Yeah, I also put the Ina Farting Troll on "ignore".

I asked you to give it a rest politely, dickwad!

Ima Farter cut one in Jeffrey’s face. Pee you!

Jeffrey told the New Yorker that poor Ima Farter sufferes from gastritis of the bowels.

I just got a press release announcing the launch of Ree Drummond’s The Pioneer Woman magazine (Hearst).

Do you think she will make Ladd her editor at large the way Oprah did for Gayle? Do you think Ladd will become a CBS This Morning co-host, too?? Is this the beginning of Ree’s OWN TV network???

Most of what Ree Drummond cooks is disgusting, IMO. I'll take Ina and her cookboods anytime.

Given the choice between an elite rich fat lady from the Hamptons who smells of roasted chicken and Chanel No 5 and an elite rich fat lady in Oklahoma who smells of horse dung, my choice is pretty easy.

One of these women is a Trump supporter the other is not.....can you guess?

There's nothing "elite" about Ree Drummond. Her father was a doctor, so she didn't grow up poor -- then she married into a much wealthier family that owns a huge cattle ranch. But money doesn't equal "elite" & Trump supporting, bible thumping phonies like her don't begin to qualify.

R233 Do you not consider Trump and all his cronies—Jared, Scaramucci, Betsy, Mnuchin, Tillerson et al—elite??

R233 I’m not using “elite” in the sense of Vanderbilt and Rockefeller New York old-money families. I’m using it in the sense of a person holding wealth so vast that laws no longer apply to him or her and that, for example, she can launch a magazine in her own name on a whim. Oprah, JFK Jr., Martha Stewart types.

Are there enough frauen left to by her magazine, filled with slop and casseroles using canned soup?

“Like the living embodiment of a Land Run chuckwagon mowing over a tribe of Native Americans before the starting shots were even fired, all around fraudulent pop icon Ree Drummond, a.k.a. the Pioneer Woman, has seen her pseudo-Okie Empire grow just a little bit bigger with the debut release of her sold-out rustic lifestyle magazine this past week.”

This article details her worst/stolen recipes:

-egg in a hole

-Chex mix

-watermelon salsa

-meatball sandwiches

-guinness ice cream float

“What happens when you take a scoop of ice cream and pour some European beer on it? A few million page-views and a multi-million dollar TV deal.

What’s most offensive to me about this post, however, is that why bother to even do the whole rustic, rural motif if you’re not gonna go full Okie with it? Every true Oklahoman knows that for the perfect holiday dessert, we like nothing more than a little six-point Bud Light drizzled on top of a still frozen Field’s Pecan Pie, a few oxys stolen from grandma to help ease the pain of a life left unrealized.”

r229 I don't understand this -- her magazine has been around since last year. I think it's only sold at Walmart. Is this a new magazine that replaces that one or something else?

R238 I don’t know. I just got a press release saying her new Pioneeer Woman magazine is available. I assumed it was a launch. It included her bio, as if it were a new project of hers. It wasn’t like “in this month’s issue...” which would be a typical announcement for a new or special issue.

I'm not putting one penny in that family's already way overstuffed pockets. She can shove her magazine.

Is it me or does that entire family look odd like generations of inbreeding or something. The kids aren't ugly, just odd looking.

Also it's disgusting the way they come in the house from supposedly (I don't believe for a minute any of them do any actual work except for the cameras) working the ranch which means handling actual shit, and eat without ever washing their hands. Or eat the things she brings out to them without every even hosing down or something. Disgusting!

Oh, forgot to say, Team Ina!

Ina would tear that red headed bitch a new asshole.

I watched a clip of the pioneer women the other day and she used frozen diced onions....that is beneath anyone with even a shred of class.

I love Ree Drummond because the Food Network paid me to write this!!

R235, I use the dictionary definition of "elite": the best. To me, that doesn't mean "the richest" or "the most powerful" -- it means educated &/or skilled, i.e.: those with merit. So Martha Stewart & Oprah are "elite", despite being "lowborn" & regardless of whether they're rich. Ree Drummond offers nothing of merit, she's just rich -- that counts for a lot in many circles, but not anywhere that really counts.

You know Ree and her family must parade around that crappy town like the king, queen, princess and princes of it. I'm sure everyone in that town is employed in one way or another by them and owes making even a pitiful living to them. Rich ranchers like that have just about owned the towns they live in since the days of real cowboys.

If you've never seen it try to catch the film Giant. It gives kind of a picture of what life is like for those filthy rich land/ranch owners. My guess is in RL they still feel the same way about Mexicans and other black, and brown people as they did back in the days of Giant. Once in a blue moon they show the kids have a black kid as a friend. LOL, I'm sure as soon as the cameras shut down that poor kid has to shine their boots.

I want new barefoot contessa shows. The amount of salt, butter and creme in her recipes though, yikes. She needs a healthy version.

This spoof site of The Pioneer Woman is a lot of fun. Its called Pie Near Woman. Ree Drummond hates it making it all the more shall we say...Delicious.

LOL! I thought that was a picture of Lucy and Desi's huge shlong.

From R214:

[quote]”Ree doesn't talk about this much," Potter said, "but she has gone out of her way to ensure that everyone is being paid living wage.”

If this is true I take back all the bad things I’ve said about her.

Yeah, under 11 bucks an hour is a good living wage. Not even in that hell hole town. What about healthcare, does she and Ladd give that to their employers from the Merc and the ranch? What about Dental and eye care. You think anyone making under 11 dollars and hour can afford as much as a filling or new pair of glasses.

I knew the bitch was lying about her kids working at the Merc or anywhere. I swear to god these people that believe she's just like them, that she has to cook and shop and that Ladd and her kids actually do the dirty ranch work are the same fucking moronic bastards that gave us Trump. Do they really think a family of billionaires actually do their own shit the way they show on TV.

The ever growing stupidity of the people in this country is fucking scary and it's getting worse. The curse of "reality" shows has so dumbed people down. They actually believe what they see and not the truth that every word and action is scripted and in way to manipulate them the most.

I'd believe that they pay a decent wage and benefits- even for that crap area. And that Ladd does work.

Obviously, her cooking for the cowboys every day is BS. But then again I'm sure Ina doesn't have sparkling dinner parties with guys like Rob Marshall every night either.

How do you know that Ladd works the ranch, the physical work he and the kids are shown doing? Where is your proof. Even the article said it was basically just a made up TV thing that one of the daughters works at the restaurant's coffee bar. I'm sure Ladd does something, like figure out more ways to sell Ree to the public, but real work, I doubt it.

I don't believe any of the rich TV cooks actually do everyday things. I don't mean to single Ree out on that. Of course Ina and Martha and Lidia and Valerie, etc. all have staff that does everything for them. Hell, probably someone of them don't even wipe their own asses. It just makes me crazy how stupid people are becoming in this country that so many do believe the bullshit.

Leave me alone!

Martha Bakes is the best cooking show. She's not the warmest of human beings but she actually teaches HOW to bake.

Martha is a good teacher. I haven't made many of her things but whatever I make turns out great. Actually it's the same with Ina and made many more of her things. Perfect the first time. Even what's his name, I forget, who had Good Eats, had some damn good recipes. His crispy chocolate chip cookies are the best I've ever made or tasted to this day. I've yet to find one recipe on the PW show that I care to make. I've picked up a few on The Kitchen, that's not a bad show. They're not pretending to have company or parties or any shit like that. It's a straight forward, we're in a studio, here's how to cook or bake this. Period!

I like The Kitchen too. Jeff Mauro is a cutie.