Which is the most shitty, useless, backwards state in the US?

Kansas is pretty ass backwards, fundie fucking retards too.

Well, there needs to be 10 more additional options, but the DL poll settings only allow for a maximum of 10...

Grew up in Missouri, r1, and had to laugh at your idiotic comment. KS is rotten but so is MO, which has been hugely pro-Klan for a century. Vile people. At least KS, like TX, has pockets of blue. MO Dems are Southern Dems, ie DINOs.

Can't believe you left out Kansas!!! We have the worst governor - he's ruined our economy!

And Kansans are loving it, right R4? Just exactly what they voted for! Do you think your Guv thanks God every day for the death of gay and lesbian people around the world?

Florida.

Yes, we KS liberal gays deserve to be shat on, r5. You're a fukken genius.

Has to be Georgia. Any state that would let my brother-in-law live there has to be a shit hole.

You forgot Arizona.

Grew up in OK. Why do people think it's a shithole?

R10, because it's not NYC.

Missouri is the Show-Me state. Kinda like saying I'm not edge-a-muck-ated and I can't read so you gotta show me.

They had a new state slogan contest while I lived there. The best one was "Missouri-Gateway to Nebraska".

Don't ask us to show you why OK is a shithole.

Missouri: Some of Our Rocks Are Nice

You left out "All of the Above", OP.

That would have been your #1 answer, word.

California

The folks are pretty in Kansas City..and we could SHOW YOU.

North Carolina: Don't Forget Your V.I.Poo.

New Jersey.

Have you been to North Dakota? Don't judge w/o seeing the beauty and experiencing the wonderful people from Walhalla to Belfield.

It's Florida. Ugly. Culture-free. At least Mississippi gave America music and Faulkner.

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r20 NJ is one of the wealthiest states in the country asshole. Northern NJ is full of industry, universities, theaters, and culture, and within close proximity to New York. Southern NJ is a jewel: the beaches have been rated some of the best on the Eastern Seaboard and with the Pine Barrens and farmland left unspoiled, it's still pastoral. It's also close to Philly which provides even more economic opportunities for its residents.

I can only imagine the shithole you live in. You're obviously a basement dweller or trailer trash whose idea of culture is a night with a six pack of Miller Lite and cruising on Grindr for a date.

LOL, R17. Without California, you would not even be on 'dem internets! Or, at least it would be a much more crude, basic experience!

Florida offers tremendous entertainment value compared with the shitholes on the list. If we look at any redeeming feature:

OK - absolutely none WV - scenery and the Greenbriar resort IN - absolutely none ID - scenery MS - Faulkner and black music AL - more black music GA - dirty southern boys AR - gay enclaves TN - BBQ, blues, Dolly Parton ND - Badlands

So it's down to OK and IN.

Badlands are in South Dakota. SD is the scenic Dakota. North Dakota has nothing to offer, not even in terms of scenery.. except that damn pipeline, I guess.

It's a state that nobody would want to visit.

OK, nevermind, R26, ND does have Theodore Roosevelt National Park, its one saving grace. Yay for ND?

North Dakota badlands in western North Dakota , breathtaking - part of Theodore Roosevelt National Park also the Pembina Gorge in northeastern North Dakota are but two reasons to visit the state.

That's what I had meant, R27 /R28. I drove through it once and thought it was nice, and then crossed over into nicer Montana.

Indiana is pretty fucking terrible. But it does have a decent college town in Bloomington.

Does Oklahoma have a Bloomington?

Florida, Texas, New Jersey, Nevada. They lower the IQ of the rest of the country.

[quote]Grew up in OK. Why do people think it's a shithole?

its voters consistently vote in the most hardcore conservative politicians who consistently push through he most regressive laws on the books, from education to tax law to highway safety. Oklahoma is the worst

I can't believe no one mentioned Kentucky. There is absolutely nothing, not one thing, to recommend this place along with West Virginia. In W Va I think it is against the law NOT to marry your cousin.

I voted for Oklahoma, but there are really too many to choose just one.

R32 NJ is the 2nd wealthiest State as far as income goes. Wealthier than NY. Someone smart must live there.

Or someone very, very corrupt r36.

I think Real World West Virginia proved the case. The state authorities begged them not to film, and the results, oxycodone, carbon monoxide death, etc. pretty much clinched it.

Oklahoma is a shithole extraordinaire. No scenery to look at, the weather sucks matter what time of the year, oven dry high heat in the summer, ice storms in the winter. And don't get me started on that horrible red clay dirt everywhere that stains everything it touches like the blood of the damned. The inbred numbnuts that sisterfuck their way through life in Oklahoma are a waste of oxygen. The only thing they're good for is making all the other red states look good.

Oklahoma gets a pass because of Rodgers & Hammerstein.

But West Virginia really needs to be permantly depopulated and turned into a nature preserve.

[quote] Oklahoma gets a pass because of Rodgers & Hammerstein.

Brand new state

Gonna treat you great

Unless of course you're gay

Then you should move away

I was raised in New Jersey. My parents had college degrees as did almost everyone they knew. Sure, there are some lower class folks, but Snooki and The Sopranos are exaggerated stereotypes. One thing I miss about it is that people in line ahead of you would often say "One or two items, you can go ahead of me." I don't believe that has ever happened here in Seattle.

I've been to 44 states so far, with Montana striking me as Most Boring. I would say Texans top my Most Obnoxious list.

Our Chrys Tran is originally from Oklahoma and Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer lives in Montana.

Meanwhile Mississippi, so far, is winning handily without hardly a mention...

Please leave us out of this.

Happy Mardi Gras, y'all!

Oklahoma, Ev'ry night my honey lamb and I

Shit alone and talk and watch a hawk

Makin' lazy shircles in the shky.

R24, yes living in southern NJ near Philadelphia DOES provide plenty of life affirming opportunities.

Shicksh and ducksh and geeshe better shcurry

When I take you out in the shurrey

When I take you out in the shurrey with the fringe on top

Watch that fringe an' shee how it fluttersh

When I drive them high-shteppin' shtruttersh

Noshy pokesh will peak through their shuttersh and their eyesh will pop!

r47 I’d like to see things from your point of view, but I can’t seem to get my head that far up your ass.

Where's Louisiana on your list OP?

Louisiana has New Orleans, Southern Decadence and gave us Cajun food, so while it should be in the top 20, I can see why it didn't make the top 10.

R50 see R45

Kansas probably. Wisconsin which used to be great seems to be a breeding ground for evil lately.

Ohio. Despite the 3 C's (Columbus, Cleveland and Cincy) the rest is a right wing - rural hot bed of nut jobbyness

Thank you, r39, I was going to ask about OK. It sounds butt fucking ugly and the politics are horrible. Really, is there anything scenic to see there?

Alabama has some great civil rights museums and the MLK church. My wife and I did a four month road trip from Oregon down through California then east into southern FL then North to Michigan then west on I-90/I-84 back to Oregon. I really enjoyed Montgomery, AL. Also, the LBJ library in Austin was fascinating.

R24 The incredible thing about So Jersey is that you have the Pine Barrens....a million unspoiled acres, but you're between NYC to the North, DC to the South, Philly to the West and the ocean to the East.

A town like Haddonfield is a nice place to live.

Surely one should factor in missile silos. No one wants to live in a target area.

All the states that threw Trump a victory are shitty in my opinion. Fuck them.

So sick of bigots like OP and his ilk. Every state has beauty and adds to the strength of the United States. You coastal snobs that claim to value diversity should understand this already.

New York gave us Trump.

End of discussion.

How could you leave South Carolina, the home of secession and webbed feet, off this list of choices?

Louisiana, worst hands down. Never have i been called white Mother F'er so many times in my Life

The lower ehite trash visitors from AL and MS , only add to the joy.

R59 Yeah, talk to me about that when my vote counts as much as someone's in Wyoming and my blue state's not supporting the rest of your lazy red asses.

The so-called "coastal elites" simply means that anyone with an ounce of energy, drive or intelligence gets the hell out of places like West Virginia.

Lynndie England, the pride of West Virginia!

Kentucky and all the states that border it.

R65

Even Illinois?

All of them R66...the rot must be destroyed fully!

Probably Kansas. Most regressive shitholes in America, have some natural beauty or historic landmarks, but Kansas has none of that. Just ugly in every way.

Well, damn, it seems Kansas might be winning if it were up there.. or at least, neck-and-neck with Mississippi

Yes, the poll should be redone to include Kansas---which of the original ten should it replace?

Nobody seems to have much to say about Idaho.. although it is the site of Aryan Nations, and all those militia anti-government loons...

I have visited the state African-American museum in Boise.

To me the most godawful states are West Virginia, Mississippi, Oklahoma and probably Kansas as well though I have never been there.

Shitholes that I would rather shot myself before I moved to.

You forgot Kentucky, white trash capital of the US

At least Kentucky has Louisville which is the decent place. The worst states have nowhere decent that anyone civilized would want to live.

To me that is the criteria, is there anywhere in the state I could stand living.

Alabama wins this one by a mile!

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III. The next Attorney General of the United States. Racist and flat out evil elf/troll. Think Rumplesteelskin but MUCH more vicious.

Former judge Roy Moore. THE most virulent and unrepentant homophobe to serve as chief justice of any state Supreme Court. Extremely nasty.

I told ya'

I was the first to mention Kansas and have the displeasure of witnessing their self destructive implosion from right across the border.

Missouri is red, Kansas City and St. Louis are only 2 major cities in a huge state with vast amounts of rural farmland and agriculture redness.

But Kansas is a beast of different stripes. So asinine and ass backwards. They actually reelected their moron fundie Governor who has run their boring box-shaped state right off a fucking cliff. An economic experiment from hell, and they remain ensconced behind Gov. Brownback who is trying to jump his sinking ship with a hoped for ticket to Trump's Washington. LOFL. They're retarded masochists in Oz.

Arizona should have been up there.

[R] 39 thanks for your comprehensive list. I would respectfully add the Native American Reservation land and all it involves AND the horrific meth problem rampant in OK.

Oh, and I almost forgot the tornadoes..

R59 is right and all of the people who buy into the stereotypes of southern and flyover states portrayed by the media aren't very smart. The smugness of the coastal areas and New England is disappointing. Starting threads like this, OP, helps us become more divided, which is the last thing the US needs, especially now. Everybody in a red state is not Republican.

Another country heard from:: FLORIDA should definitely have been on OPs list.

[quote]. Every state adds to the strength of the United States.

This is not true, at least on an economic basis. Some states are the givers, some states are the takers.

Amusingly enough most of the states being talked about (Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Kansas) are the worst takers, their economies are weak so they are reliant on the Federal government (ie money from other states).

My bad, didn't mean to include poor Kansas which actually does well on this ranking.

Alabama has Montgomery which is a pretty nice town. Kentucky has Louisville and it is pretty in parts. Kansas doesn't have shit, but it is prettier than Oklahoma. I still think OK wins for the biggest loser of a state.

I would agree Kansas is the worst.

What state was Ethel Mertz from?

R86: Ethel Mae Louise Roberta Potter Mertz was from Albuquerque, New Mexico

Did someone say "Shitty?"

I am so there.

I used to travel for work, and over the years I ended up in a lot of places. But, the only one on this particular list is Arkansas. I was Bentonville (Wal Mart HQ) so that town is potentially an exception to what that entire state might be like (though it was 63% Trump...so maybe not). It was still pretty dingy and dull there, but it wasn't a bad place to work because the whole town caters to business travelers (lots of fast food, easy to get everywhere, etc.). The life goal of everyone I met there was to get out of Bentonville. So there's one answer.

The worst two were a small town in South Dakota and in Baton Rouge, LA. South Dakota was totally empty. The only food we had was McDonalds or Burger King. There was one dingy hotel. I don't even know where the employees lived - nothing was around. In Baton Rouge, The weather was incredibly hot, our office was disgusting (80 degrees + snake warnings on every door), the food was bad no matter where you went, and it was just a miserable place to be.

The funny thing about all of the above is that the people were always friendly (to my face) - more so than clients in cities like NY or Boston. I think it is a cultural thing to be nice to people and then talk shit about them privately. There were a number of examples of this, actually now that I think about it. In Boston & NYC, they just yelled at us directly when they didn't like something. The Southern states' employees were more conniving (or perhaps more hierarchical) and had their complaints go up their food chain and to the top of our leadership - thus making us look (personally) worse than if they just told us their problems to our face.

New York City.

then you better not be on Datalounge, R90

Oh, dear. There are just sooooo many.

I love that R90 believes that New York City is a "state."

R93 Probably one of those Trumpenstein idiots that think California shouldn't have voted because they're not the REAL AMERICA!

What a fucking stupid cunt!

I've lived in Kansas for quite a while, lived in a few other states, and visited about 20 more. Kansas is a really good contender for worst state, but monetarily it is somewhat worthwhile to the U.S. because of crops, cattle and oil.

Oklahoma was just dire -- even more assholes than Kansas, no oases of blue, and fewer resources of any kind. Its worthlessness edges Kansas out of the top spot.

[quote]I was the first to mention Kansas and have the displeasure of witnessing their self destructive implosion from right across the border.

Kansas fought hard to be admitted into the Union as a free state, while Missourians came over the border and massacred citizens on a regular basis, hoping to bully Kansas into being a slave state, which would help all the slave owners in Missouri. You may not have heard of the Marais des Cygnes Massacre or the Beecher Bible and Rifle Church, but you should have heard of John Brown at least, and the burning of Lawrence.

It's been a century and a half but Kansas still has pockets of liberals in the same places it did back then. Missouri, as I know from growing up there, is still a slave state at heart. When I was a kid in the 1970s in Southern Missouri, the Klan was a prominent presence. When U of M students said they thought Klan members were on campus, I figured they might just be right -- it's not like the Klan is losing membership nowadays.

Kansas right now is troubling, but it's not as much from the citizens as it is from the Republicans using Kansas as a testing ground for all sorts of shitty stuff, and Republicans are complaining almost as much as Democrats nowadays.

No beauty in Kansas, eh? Once again coastals talking out of their ass.

That is beautiful?

1/10

go out west, see some real mountain scenery. Not some puny hills.

[quote]Grew up in OK. Why do people think it's a shithole?

Don't you know? At DL only Cali. and NY are decent states. All the rest are full of backward, barefoot morons who only vote republican.

Of course the majority of the people here making these claims most likely have never even visited NY or California and live in some backwoods hell hole, but want to make it look like they're in the big time.

Your poll is shitty, OP. So is your ignorant bias. You list all sunbelt states excluding Indiana.

Idaho and North Dakota are sunbelt states?

Jesus Christ, what happened to teaching geography in schools?

Oh right, the Republicans slashed funding for that, too!

Every mention of Mississippi makes me smile. Do stay away.

The only thing MS produces are hot guys, my bf is from MS and he always gets my mojo going.

I've never heard of half of these places before in my life!

I live in Kentucky, other than Louisville we have nothing but dumb Trump supporters to offer the world.

MS gave us Lance Bass

I can't believe Louisiana isn't on the list.

"Useless" is the key word in this question. MS may be backward but the Magnolia State gave us Tennessee Williams, Elvis, Faulkner, Eudora Welty, etc.

North and South Dakota have nothing to offer.

What does OK have over MS?

R106 - what about Lexington?

Georgia, OP?

Georgia gave us CNN, Gone With The Wind, The Golden Isles, Martin Luther King, Ray Charles and Co'Cola.

[quote]go out west, see some real mountain scenery. Not some puny hills.

Beauty is not a zero-sum game, sweet R99. Just because you find mountains more impressive doesn't mean there isn't equal beauty in a bucolic prairie. Open your mind to other possibilities. You might find life a lot more fulfilling.

r113, have you ever been to the Pacific Northwest?

R112 I also wondered why OP's list is so suspiciously anti-Southern. Georgia is hugely culturally influential. Tennessee is a cornerstone of America's musical heritage. Mississippi has produced some of America's greatest authors.

Here are some useless Yankee states that OP omitted:

Delaware

Wyoming

Utah

Idaho

Nebraska

I think the results would change if you had to have actually spent some time in a state you're panning, none of this pass-through shit.

Delaware is where a lot of companies incorporate and Dover is a pretty nice town, Brown University is there and the state is blue. Parts of Wyoming and Idaho are beautiful. Utah has some amazing national parks. I'll give you Nebraska, but the other states are far removed from this list.

R115 you missed Pennsylvania. I'm from Philadelphia and except for a few areas PA is horrible. Remember we graced this country with lil' Ricky Santorum.

Re-read the OP, PA does not belong on the list. Again it has scenic beauty, it has some great large cities and it has a lot of history. Contrast that to say, OK. Not even close.

We could nit pick every state, but that isn't what the OP writes about. There really are a handful of states that have nothing to offer.

R118 thinks Rick Santorum trumps Benjamin Franklin and the Continental Congress. Moron.

r118 Philadelphia is one of the worst 'areas' in PA. Table number 12 is calling you. They want more water.

OK, let me do this again but a little slower for R119, R120, and R121. First, I responded to R115, not the OP. Furthermore, as this thread has pointed out each state has SOME quality that can be viewed as redeeming. Asshole at R120 I'm assuming you and your friend at R121 are Pennsylvanians who get a little touchy when the state gets the criticism it deserves. Ben Franklin (actually from Boston) and the Continental Congress (the one that gave us our glorious Constitution took place in New York) are nice enough but any historic person or event that happens to pass through doesn't give a state cache in 2016. Finally R121, I don't disagree with you, Philly is horrid. Now take that water glass and cram it up your ass.

[quote]Delaware is where a lot of companies incorporate and Dover is a pretty nice town, Brown University is there and the state is blue.

Huh?

[quote]Delaware is where a lot of companies incorporate

Fascinating.

So what the fuck does Oklahoma have to offer?

Why is it not winning?

Pennsylvania has only 1 large city, Philly. Pittsburgh is a medium sized city. The only 2 sates in the nation that have more than one true large city are California and Texas.

Plus, with a few exceptions Philly is a major shit hole with the most lowbrow trash who inhabit it in the nation. Philly scum is by far some of the (if not the) worst scum in the world.

[quote][R113], have you ever been to the Pacific Northwest?

Yes, I've been to all 50 states, much of Canada, and all over the world. I grew up in Colorado and spent much time in the mountains there. I know of what I speak, and I repeat, there is quiet beauty everywhere.

In order to win this poll, the state must offer nothing to the culture of the country. Although they might be politically useless, if they have some semblance of culture, they should not be considered.

[quote]Why is it not winning?

Because one of the worst punishments someone could conceive is forcing someone to live in Mississippi? It's a fucking hellhole.

Backwards has to be a poor red state, because voting GOP is undeniably voting against your state's best interests - so I'll pick Mississippi. It tops the chart on almost every negative measure, and consistently votes for people who will make it worse.

Shitty? Well that's subjective - shitty weather, shitty politics, shitty culture, shitty environment? I agree that there's beauty in every state. MS or AL have incredibly shitty politics, but there's interesting culture. I like bluegrass so I'll give the Appalachian states a pass. I'd opt for Oklahoma or Kansas with shitty politics, tornadoes and not a lot of cultural clout.

Useless? Well lots of states red and blue probably aren't all that useful. If Vermont moved to Canada the US wouldn't really miss it. Nevada? You can build casinos anywhere. Then again, those states are fairly self sufficient. Southern red states suck at the federal teat , but mainly because they are so poor and don't vote for people who could improve things - so there's potential for those states to be more useful than they are. I'll pick Louisiana - already costs the federal government a lot, and as it continues to sink it's only going to cost more.

I'm going to go with Oklahoma--crap weather (hurricane alley),, culturally bland, red as all get-out. Best known for the Oklahoma City bombing, a musical written elsewhere and some gymnasts. Mississippi is a pit, but culturally a little more interesting.

Oklahoma has some beautiful scenery and lots of open land. There are tornadoes and it's windy a lot. There's a lot of churches. There's a Native American culture behind a lot of the state (and unfortunately a bunch of casinos now, thanks Republicans!). The streets are kind of shitty. There's a state income tax. OKC has put a lot of effort into revitalising the downtown area and it's become a pretty nice spot. There's some beautiful Art Deco buildings, lots of old Victorians, and the people are generally friendly. Cowboys too. There's a lot of wind farm investment. It has its plusses and minuses, the political situation is dire and the governor is a horrible right wing cunt. They got rid of state car inspection stickers, I have no idea why. The majority of the population is older/geriatric, hopefully once they die off the state will recover more and not be quite so Republican.

Here's your winner...

Who is this hysterical queen trying to promote these lies that a state like Oklahoma contributes just as much and is every bit as beautiful and important as a state like California???

Oklahoma is a worthless piece of shit! The anus of America! Stop trying to make these worthless states receive a participation trophy!

LMAO. I don't know why but R135 cracked me the hell up.

🙄🙄🙄🙄

R137, how is Oklahoma not conplete shit? Nasty, racist, Republicans. Land of homophobia and where they stuck Native Americans at the trail if tears trek!

For shame!

Ref: R133 😕😒

"Grew up in OK. Why do people think it's a shithole?"

Agree with R54 about rural Ohio. I left the week after I graduated and rarely go back to visit.

^ Meant to also comment on that bastion of assholery known as Oklahoma. The constant scorpion invasion in my friend's home was almost as distressing as her neighbors' ultra-conservatism.

There are scorpions in Oklahoma?

Yes, r142. My friend puts sticky flypaper around her bed in the summer and finds a few stuck to it every morning. She lives out in the scrub- I doubt Oklahoma's city slickers have many visits from the scorpion fairy.

Well, Oklahoma gave us this cunt, so it can go fuck itself!!

Missouri and Indiana run a close second to Mississippi. Shit.

At this point isn't most of the USA a backward shithole? Except for the northeast and west coast?

Sure you can put all red states in one basket r146, but go live in Miami Beach then go live in Mississippi and tell me it's all the same.

Some states are still worse than others.

We can all agree Florida is a human garbage dump though right?

It's a psychological mystery to me. How does categorizing huge parts of your own country as shit make you feel better? Is it an insecurity thing, where you can feel superior because of where you live (which is probably an accident of your birth)?

[quote]It's a psychological mystery to me. How does categorizing huge parts of your own country as shit make you feel better?

It really shouldn't be a mystery to you. Huge swathes if the country mindlessly vote against their own self interest, fucking it up for those who can plainly see the horror the GOP brings not only to the country but to the world.

Heavily Republican areas deserve all the shit that can be poured on them.

[quote]which is probably an accident of your birth?

....Is it the 1800s? People are not stuck in their hometown dear, many people with college degrees and higher degrees move in search of greater job opportunities and cultural amenities.

And it is a simple reality that if you like progressive values and modern cultural amenities, some states have that, some not so much. For gay men especially trying to act like it is the same being a gay man in any state is foolish.

What's foolish, R151, is assuming most people are college educated and upwardly mobile. Most middle-class and poor people still do live where they were born.

I think many of these are salvageable, but I think we need to take Oklahoma, Indiana, Missouri and Mississippi, and nuke them for morbid.otherwise the cancer will spread and eat out the brains of those remaining.

Speaking of brains

r152, I have often wondered if I hadn't been gay if I would still be living in the Midwest.

[quote]What's foolish is assuming most people are college educated and upwardly mobile. Most middle-class and poor people still do live where they were born.

Yes, I literally specified college educated in my post.

But you are proving my point. Some areas have serious issues with brain-drain, most of the talented people leave in search of better opportunities. So what is left behind are areas of uneducated people who have very provincial viewpoints.

Where as some places are hotspots for talented people, so you tend to be surrounded by more educated people with less conservative values.

Shocker, the former places seem like hell on earth if you are a more "cosmopolitan-type" of person. Or a gay person at all since such places are still a little stuck in the past when it comes to gay people.

You are basically admitting my point, but getting upset when we point out such differences exist.

FLORIDA WINS!

Home of the 2 most hideous CHILD KILLERS in recent history.

AND they STILL plan on doing a reality show together! Unless it's called Anthony and Zimmerman Swung from a Tree, I'll pass.

GET EM GURLS!!!

I'm from Kentucky. Louisville and Lexington are nice places with a decent amount of culture, restaurants, sports and scenery. If you drive between the two, you will see beautiful horse farms. Everywhere else in KY sucks though. Especially southern KY near Tennessee.

Indiana is way worse though. That state is full of poverty, drugs, crime and is just totally yuck.

Believe it or not, rural areas have their positives just like urban areas have theirs. True many of the people in rural areas are provincial and hard headed and non progressive. They like things the way they were, not they way they could be. And in most places that works. These areas provide a place for city dwellers to get away to unwind. Living in a big city is very stressful, no matter what your socioeconomic situation is. If I didn't have a place in the middle of nowhere to retreat to for a few months a year I'd go crazy. I'm more than happy to engage with country bumpkins and keep my progressive ideas and attitudes to myself while I'm there. And besides, some of those rubes turn out to be incredibly wise and I've learned a lot from them.

[quote]... getting upset when we point out such differences exist.

Most on this thread aren't "pointing out differences," they're writing off huge swathes of Americans as worthless shit (out of their own need to feel superior). This arrogance, btw, is a huge factor in why Trump is going to be President.

The one with the lowest rates of circumcision.

[quote] Most on this thread aren't "pointing out differences," they're writing off huge swathes of Americans as worthless shit (out of their own need to feel superior). This arrogance, btw, is a huge factor in why Trump is going to be President.

Guess what?

A lot of us do think you are absolute, worthless fucking shit, because you have a long, fucking history of racism, homophobia, etc. and even in 2016 you continue to vote for hateful politicians and laws that aim to make minority's lives miserable.

So if you feel that coastal people are arrogant or belittling.. well, too fucking bad!

That is your legacy and you need to own it!

Southerners and midwesterners want to make it [bold][italic] all about them [/bold][/italic] and all about [bold][italic] their feelings [/bold][/italic] and how everybody is attacking them... nevermind all of the hateful shit and people that they vote for.

You big, bad coastal meanies are arrogant and make them [italic] feel bad about themselves [/italic] so that's why they had to vote in Trump!

Dontcha know?

Missouri was quite the most shitty, useless and backwards state back in June of '92!

[quote]That is your legacy and you need to own it!

We don't even think about owning it, darling, we just ARE.

People love to joke about millennials on here and how they are all "special snowflakes."

Well, what about the red-state middle Americans?

Biggest fucking group of "special snowflakes" ever who can't stand or handle those big, bad, mean coastal people making them "feel bad" so they have to vote in the worst scumbags ever!

North Carolina--kudzu, strip malls and a GOP legislature. Seriously, every place I have visited there has struck me as overhyped including Asheville and the Research Triangle.

Good God some of you act like every living soul in the south and the midwest are backwards thinking, right wing, Trump voting goobers, and that every living soul in NY and California are ultra liberal democratic progressives. Bitch please! There are plenty right wing assholes all over the country in coastal areas from Maine all the way around up the west coast, and plenty of ultra liberal progressives in places like Mississippi and Missouri. I'm guessing you people running off at the mouth are probably not even out of your 20's, in other words young and dumb. Either wise up or keep your ignorant mouths shut, if you please.

The only thing this thread proves is that Datalounge attracts a large percentage of nasty tempered, ignorant twits who know little to nothing about the parts of the country outside of where they live or where they were born, and who have the attitude of "it's my way or the highway".

having lived in the Northeast, Midwest & South, and having spent a lot of time on the west Coast--the worst I can say is that smug coastal types are annoying and, although you can find bigots everywhere, they are baked into the culture more in the South than anywhere else and the South is the one part of the country where you are always in danger of having someone ask you if you've been "saved" or some such nonsense.

[quote] The only thing this thread proves is that Datalounge attracts a large percentage of nasty tempered, ignorant twits who [bold] know little to nothing about the parts of the country outside of where they live or where they were born, and who have the attitude of "it's my way or the highway". [/bold]

Ha! Cry me a river, you fucking cunt!

You people continuously whine and moan about people on the coasts being rich, "limousine liberals," without caring about reality or their plight or their situation, or how these people work honest jobs just like you real "patriots" in the middle!

But you people are sweet and mannered towards each other, so I guess that excuses all of the nasty shit that you continue to vote for!

Bullshit R170. I've lived in the south all my life and I have never had anyone ask me if I've been saved. What a God damned ridiculous thing to say. I think you're full of shit quite frankly.

And R170, you should eat shit and die you snotty nosed little limp wristed Mary.

"Southerners and midwesterners want to make it all about them and all about their feelings..."

What are these "feelings" you speak of?

171 needs mental health treatment.

[quote]And [R170], you should eat shit and die you snotty nosed little limp wristed Mary.

Sorry, that was meant for R171 (the rageoholic asshole).

Get used to the "rage-o-holicism," R175.

This is [bold] YOUR [/bold] new America and it is angry and hateful!

That's the thing with southerners... they care more about "decorum" and public etiquette and manners more than all of the nasty things they continue to do and have done.

Walking through Texas, somebody killed him. Never solved, never investigated.

Good, R178! One less Trump-voting asshole in this world!

Why don't you talk about all the fucking unsolved murders that go on in that supposed golden state of Nirvana, California? There are more criminal lunatics in that state than every other state combined. Cali. is known for its horrific murders. But you CONENIENTLY fail to mention that.

The Manson girls should stab you to death, R180.

It would be funny. Stabby, stabby, helter-skelter.

My vote was for Mississippi based on an experience I had in the 1990's....I work in the music biz and was on tour and we were doing a show in Biloxi at the Gulf Coast Coliseum.....during the day I walked down the beach to a Burger King to get some junk food (passed by the Jefferson Davis House (Beauvoir) on the way which should have been my clue to what I was about to experience.....anyway, I get to Burger King and go to the counter and order my lunch.....I notice a 20 something white girl in line behind me........so I get my food and go sit down at a table and start eating.....a minute later, the girl who was in line comes up to me and says she heard me order and from accent knew I wasn't a local and she asked if she could sit with me........not knowing that she was about to start crying at my table, I said sure.......and then she begins to tell me that she is in Biloxi with her husband who is in the military and is doing his medical residency on the military base........she said that she had grown up in Washington DC (as did her husband) and that this was their first time in the south......her family had worked inside the beltway. She went on to tell me that she had not been brought up a racist and that she didn't think she was going to make it through her husband's residency in Biloxi..she said that the racism was worse than anything she had ever seen on TV or heard about in school and was sobbing at my table....she couldn't handle the way blacks were treated in Biloxi ...I just listened........and when it came time for me to go, I gave her a hug and wished her well and told her she would get through the next six months.........I never looked at Mississippi the same after that experience....and when Katrina hit Biloxi, my one hope was that Beauvoir would have been washed out to sea.............I have been back to Biloxi with a few times over the years and still cringe at the sight of Beauvoir and the memories from lunch at Burger King........

I think this is a dumb topic. All places have their upsides and downsides.

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[quote] Get used to the "rage-o-holicism," [R175].

[quote]This is YOUR new America and it is angry and hateful!

These are the most honest words spoken on DataLounge as of late.

These are angry, rage-filled times, and there is no amount of posting kitten videos on FaceBook that is going to "bring the country together" to heal.

[quote]nuke them for morbid

Best autocorrect of the day!

Wouldn't be nice if there was a virus or bacteria that only killed hateful white garbage people.

This is "the way we live now."

In my opinion it is over once you leave Maryland, the only safe haven is Atlanta and Miami.

R182 that is possibly the most detailed EST I've ever read. One big pack of lies!

I got the same feeling, r190.

Two out-of-staters binding over lunch at a Burger with Beauvoir in the background ... EST.

I love this topic, and I think the criteria (beauty, culture, politics) are correct. Every time there's a thread like this, I give the same answer(s), based on extensive travel in the U.S. (every state). Oklahoma, Indiana and Alabama are worthless. Any good feature they have is surpassed by other states that do the same things better. Oklahoma might be the worst of them, especially now that there are millions of fracking induced mini-earthquakes to complement the tornadoes. And that red soil makes it hard to build basements to hide from the twisters. But I would probably want a house without a basement if I lived there, so I could die.

Every red state. Including mine.

In the last three presidential elections, all 77 counties in oklahoma voted for the republican candidate. While the country as a whole is seeing more registered democrats, the number of registered republicans in oklahoma has increased and dems have gone down. More than half of oklahoma voters are registered republicans.

Bitches, please! Once you've visited a 100% authentic shithole like India you realize nothing in the U.S even comes close to being qualified as such...Not Oklahoma, not Camden...nothing in the U.S.is an authentic shithole.

Fuck you criticizing all the "smug coastal types..." I am not going to be guilted into apologizing for my success, how ever modest it may be, or for getting an education and making sacrifices and working hard.

I fucking resent the shit out of the ignorant assed Red State vermin who benefit from the programs that my tax dollars support. Poorly educated, unemployable, welfare, food stamps, teen pregnancy, Medicaid. Yes. The Red states have the worst fucking record.

Every fucking program Obama supported or Hillary supported, all of it would have and did in fact benefit you. Raising the minimum wage, free college, better public education, Obamacare, Medicaid expansion, etc.

You want respect, get off your entitled asses and carry your weight. Do your share. Stop resenting the success of people who had to overcome major obstacles while you sat on your fat asses blaming the world, and Blacks, or Gays, or immigrants, or Muslims, for you owen failures. Fuck you, haters.

Well, look at you, all self-made and prancing, R196. You sound downright Libertarian.

R196 When I was growing up I remember my Dad saying "The world doesn't owe you a living".

Kentucky...I should know I was born and raised here.

Was there ever a DL group consensus?

Yes, South Jersey

Gotta go with Kentucky.

Nothing outdoes Mississippi. Wellll, ...maybe Oklahoma.

I went with the state I see absolutely no reason to visit and that would be Mississippi. Indiana is basically worthless but it has basketball and since it's a neighbor state I've had to travel there for work and sports.

Tennessee obviously has the beautiful Smoky mountains, Dolly's birthplace Sevierville and some of the best roads I've driven on. They must spend a ton on infrastructure.

Georgia has Atlanta , CNN, old towns like Savannah, Chattanooga if you like mountains, and pecan and peanut brittle.

Idaho--well where would we be without those potatoes and the farming for food.

North Dakota has probably got some good scenery and landmarks (have never been there) and lots of Native American culture I assume.

West Virginia has waterfalls, caves, rivers and mountain scenery

The last three are runner ups for the worse place --Oklahoma, Alabama & Arkansas. They just seems to be places where bigotry lives, breathes and multiplies.

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How many Dakotas do we need?

WV as far as I’m concerned. Mainly because it was created in response to the Confederacy but today has essential reverses places with ‘East’ Virginia. VA has progressed by leaps and bounds while WV has regressed. WV is like an exclave of Arkansas or Mississippi.