Women are lucky

A straight guy told me he thought gay men and straight women are the luckiest for similar reasons. He imagined gay men going from eye contact to sucking each other off in a heartbeat. I'd say lesbians are luckier than straight women because lesbians can be over 35 and still get a lot of action.

Men come up to me and say that all the time. I don't think the problem is "gay men" - maybe you just need a makeover.

[quote]I just wish for once, that a guy would come up to me and say "Hey, I think you're attractive.

In order for that to happen, you need to be attractive.

Women have it made because they can just get married to whomever, have a new last name, shed their past, and leach off of the man until she tired of him. Then she gets a payout or alimony, remarries, and sheds their skin once again...new last name, new host to suck money from.

OPs reasoning is the reason a really emotionally messed up "straight" man I know is transitioning to be a hetero woman.

Yes, women are lucky all right.

Being sexually harassed by Neanderthals for simply walking down the street Being hit on by Neanderthals whether they want the attention or not. Yep, those females have it made.

What a whiney loser you are, OP.

R4 - another retard who doesn't actually have any knowledge about the fact that women's standard of living plummets after separation and divorce. Most women also have trouble getting men to pay for their own children if they have any to support. Try harder.

Darling, as a gay man, I only want attention from rich dying millionaires with no children.

[quote] Yes, women are lucky all right. Being sexually harassed by Neanderthals for simply walking down the street Being hit on by Neanderthals whether they want the attention or not. Yep, those females have it made.

Haha, you say tomaytoe, I say tomahtoh.

Women always think they're being "harassed" by men who find them attractive, when in actuality, men just find them attractive. It's not as if they're committing a crime, but women treat them like they are.

Most gay men (in my opinion) would welcome the attention.

Women are just always looking for a reason...

Men are less threatened by other men than women are by men. Do you really fail to understand how there is a huge power difference there?

If it was a woman catcalling another woman, then yes, they would feel less physically threatened.

[quote]most gay guys want to be asked, and not have to do the asking.

Well OP it looks you you have identified the problem (at least in your mind) if there was only a solution Oh I know give the guys what they want.

I was always jealous of my straight girl friends. They could go out and fuck any hot guy they wanted no questions asked. There are hot straight guys everywhere, not as many hot gay guys out there.

We're guessing what OP calls "women" are actually "straight women". Coming from a gay man, that's rich.

Most women get as much catcalling per day when walking outside as anyone gets SPAM in their mailbox. Attractive? Flattering? Not sure.

r2 Don't worry OP. She lives in Fantasyland.

The thing is, even with lesbians it is very, very rare for a woman to catcall another woman. The most that might happen will be for a stranger to smile at another woman. It's very flattering, it's also a lot more subtle and you can definitely take up on it or not. Women are a lot less aggressive than men and actually know how to flirt, which most men do not really master. Some men are good at this, but they're in the minority. Also, flirtatious men usually expect results - women are a lot more patient and are playing a long and wide game. Well, we're smart.

Only a gay men with NO female friends, whatsoever, would think it advantageous to be an attractive woman on the street being 'flattered' by men.

A young, attractive woman has to worry about rape every time she go outside. Seriously. Or giving the 'wrong' kind of let down by a man who approaches her, so that he won't follow her and beat/kill her.

Think I'm kidding?

I had everything and more happen to me as a young attractive female, just going about my business.

I thank God everyday that I survived it all and that as an older woman I feel much safer in life.

Hear, hear, R16.

I can only imagine how maddening it must be to be told to smile everywhere you fucking go. If a pretty girl (or, really, any girl) has a mean look on her face, some asshole dude will tell her to smile. And if she doesn't? She's a bitch. Men think that women owe them attention. It's bullshit. Thank God the only thing about me that's attractive is my dick. I can live in peace.

Just imagine if you're a horny straight woman, who is overweight and passably attractive, and you can walk into any bar, lounge, mall, etc. and probably pick up a straight male hottie for sex and maybe a relationship. That is a straight woman's reality even though most of them wouldn't do it.

Please r19. If you think a fatass girl can go up to a some hunky hottie in a bar and just pick him up you are DELUSIONAL.

Do you live in this society? Do you have female friends? Do you ever actually hang out in the world and leave your mom's basement?!

r20 You don't live in the sticks sweetheart. I see it all the time, and I'm not delusional.

leave your mom's basement?

WTF do people get this idiotic statement from?

Too many freaks, not enough circuses = r20

Blocking OP...

[quote]You don't live in the sticks sweetheart

God no. In any decent city hot guys do tend to have some standards.

If you are a good looking guy who spends time working on your body then odds are you are not going to want to hook up with a fat chick. And the reality is, they can generally find other girls. Don't forget tinder is a thing. There are lots of young girls who are into more casual sex, it isn't the 50s.

Yes, R19, of course. The love and enduring respect that straight men have for fat, sexually aggressive women is well-known. Every straight man pines for a "relationship" with a fat woman who trolls bars and picks up men.

They all love that. Yep. Uh huh. Totally. Fat chicks who pick up men in bars = total marriage material in a straight man's eyes. They love sexually empowered fat women! Yep they trade stories in the lockerroom about their fat girlfriends and how many guys they picked up before finding a "relationship" with a "hot straight guy."

Happens ALL THE TIME.

[quote]and you can walk into any bar, lounge, mall,

Mall? A shopping mall?

You are saying that people go to shopping malls to "meet" new people?

What decade and/or hellhole are you posting from? Where I live malls are dying and no one would ever go to one to make new friends. Most people don't even go to them to SHOP. The last time I went to one it was nothing but fraus and old people. And the place was empty. This was probably 3-4 years ago.

Have you ***EVER*** left mom's basement?

r25 My neighbor met his wife at a shopping mall while sitting at a fountain. He always said the mall was the best place to meet women.

r20 Crawl back in your mommy's coochy and let the adults get on with it. Hopefully, you'll get out that trailer park one day.

This OP is retarded. Seriously. And blocked.

[quote] This OP is retarded. Seriously. And blocked.

Yes, it's a horrible thing when a person expresses their opinion on this website. Absolutely horrible.

Heaven forbid that anyone here have an opinion.

Precious little snowflakes that you are.

It's actually a good thing that OP chose an anonymous outlet to check if what went on in his brain made sense. Now that he knows that he doesn't, he can live with the assessment that he is RETARDED without the humiliation of public embarrassment. OP, we congratulate you.

Men (aka str8 guys) are mesmerized by fish, who are not interested in sex. Meanwhile, millions of sisters go to bed hungry (for pinga!) every night. If only these men would learn!

R24 makes me laugh. DL is usually accused of the opposite.

How many heavyset women are on this thread? I want their opinion. Have you been dumped by a hot guy after he used you for sex?

A fat chick can pretty easily find a guy to suck or let inside their ass, but not date or marry.

It's the same issue with trannys.

This being a gay board, I'd venture most of the women on this thread are lesbians. They've possibly not used that many guys for sex, since as they are pretty useless that way. It's OP who likes guys.

I love being a woman. I love lesbians.

I don't blame you for being jealous, OP. I'm so grateful to be a lesbian. Life is really good! :)

"Hey, I think you're attractive. Would you like to go outwith me sometime?" do you honestly think this is how most men approach women?

all of these things only apply to attractive women

OP should have this conversation with his mother, sister or female friends and hear their thoughts about it

Ninety percent of straight men are pursuing ten percent of women. Those of us in the bottom quartile are ignored, or only used for secretive one-hit sex and then dumped. However, it's frequently worth being ignored since I miss out on a lot of rape, sexual harassment, and repulsive men who believe they're entitled to the hottest piece of ass in the room.

Op, you'd be hit on by ugly fat old men and you'd be called a stuck up cunt and threatened with violence only because you were trying to mind your own business. Hell hath no fury like a scorned man.

Just because you want to be hit on by random creepy men walking down the street doesn't mean we do

[quote]He imagined gay men going from eye contact to sucking each other off in a heartbeat.

That's how we used to roll. Back in the day.

[sigh]

It's only sexual harassment if the guy is ugly.

OP and every other idiot on this thread who thinks women are 'lucky' for being harassed need to read the linked article, and most importantly the comments, where women relate their stories. Do little girls feel 'lucky' for being catcalled on the street? Because that's when it starts for many of them.

If the only way you can feel validated is by other people hitting on you, then maybe women have it "better" on average. Aren't there more important things, or is the meaning in life to just get laid randomly at "the mall".

I live in Fitler Square in Center City, Philadelphia, the other day I was walking to my car when two guys in a silver BMW SUV slowed down next to me and started slowly driving along side me as I walked, it was unnerving to say the least. They only drove beside me for a block, from Locust Street to Spruce Street, but it felt like a lot longer. I wouldn't engage them, I wouldn't acknowledge them at all which made their comments even worse.

I've had guys on bikes ride beside me and I've had guys walk next to me on the side walk mumbling and even though I always stare straight ahead like they're not even there, I'm always afraid of what might happen when they get that close. I am not flattered by this attention (in high school I was assaulted in a mall parking garage in so I'm kind of hypervigilant) I'm only 5'2" and 120 pounds so it's easy for someone to overpower me. I'm on an even higher alert now that it's almost sun dress season.

[quote]in high school I was assaulted in a mall parking garage in so I'm kind of hypervigilant

So "lucky"

[quote] I'm only 5'2" and 120 pounds

MOOOOOOO

Only whorish people think shallow crap like this

With hookup apps gay men now seek each other out for sex first and the relationship might come later

Times sure have changed r51.

When I was younger, I got hit on constantly. Men and women. Shit, I've had both male and female coworkers pin me against a wall and shove their tongues down my throat. I had a woman come up to me in a parking lot and rip my shirt open.

If you're hot, you don't have to do anything but show up.

Such whiny special snowflake crap. Insecurity isn't exclusive to gays. Velvet Insecurity, some book's gonna call it now? Work on yourself. Love yourself first. Then straight women won't look like such green grass. Heterosexism is a huge problem. (The same men who catcall, make lewd gestures/comments to you, are the same ones dismissing you as another piece of meat at the office, and paying you less.) Stop romanticizing the penis-less.

I wonder what Beyoncé has to say about this.

@LosFelizDaycare 6h6 hours ago

Here at LFDC anyone can pull a woman card! They're like sports cards except they feature accomplishments like running the world and birthing

Nothing on this Earth would make me "jealous" of being a woman.

I feel blessed to have been borne a gay man. It's like winning the jackpot.

[quote]. I'm on an even higher alert now that it's almost sun dress season.

This post can't be real.

When I was 12 (I'm a guy), I got hit on by a group of 16/17 year old girls. They would come and sit next to me during lunch and ask intimate questions - even then it was clear to me that they were coming on to me. Later in life, I experienced the same thing with older, married women at work.

Only ATTRACTIVE women are lucky. That's less than a half I guess.

[quote] I feel blessed to have been borne a gay man. It's like winning the jackpot.

Could not agree more. I feel incredibly lucky being a gay dude. I know a lot of gay dudes don't see it that way for whatever reason, but I think they are idiots.

A lot of defensive women on this thread. You had a sucky divorce attorney, so you lose out! Sorry hunty!

[quote] Aren't there more important things, or is the meaning in life to just get laid randomly at "the mall".

Oh honey, we're ALL about the cock!

[quote]Oh honey, we're ALL about the cock!

Oh I know ... It's like straight guys who can't get laid and run crazy website like "sluthate.com"

Interesting this thread popped up at the same time - basically what happens when you can't get it anymore.

As numerous posters have pointed out in the straight or gay world it's the same rules. The hot ones get hit on and everyone else gets ignored. The grass is not greener on the other side.

Exactly r65. OP is not attractive and chooses to lash at girls as a target of his own frustration and insecurity.

There are some people (guy or girls, gay or straight) who are hot and get all the attention. You can be bitter, or you can get better. Learn how to be fun and funny, improve yourself when you can. Have your own experiences with what you got.

Or just go bitch about the world on online forums and blame everyone else for why you can't get laid.

Y'all are so desperate and needy. And whorish

It's better to be sexually harassed than ignored.

You have got to be kidding, R68... at least, I hope you are.

I'm pushing sixty and I love being ignored by men now. I feel much freer and safer now. I honestly feel sorry for young women.

R69 I was not.

Then you haven't experienced harassment, r71.

R68/R71 is a perfect illustration of the difference between male and female brains. Transwomen are male, therefore they don't "get it" either.

As Lila Perry would say: "The only reason cis women don't want to see my huge cock flopping around under my skirt is because they're BIGOTS!"

"Guys hit on them all the time..."

Alas, in more ways than the OP's intended.

What a delicate flower:

[quote]This being a gay board, I'd venture most of the women on this thread are lesbians.

Oh honey, are you lost? DL is frau heaven.

OP is evil. Come sit next to me, OP! He knew full well that all he had to do was assert that women are anything other than tragic victims and then sit back and watch the sparks fly.

Threads like this are fun now and then to keep the DL's frau squatters from getting too comfortable.

Perry is a SuperFreak.

I wouldn't want my little sister in a bathroom with him/it.

How do you keep straight men from dressing as trans women and entering the restroom? This is going to introduce a whole new breed of sexual predators to the world. Anyone who doesn't believe that is a fool. Isn't this world already fucked up enough without passing more ridiculous laws?

This thread is bizarre.

I'm straight, female and attractive (hot)). I get a lot of attention from men. Always have. Back in the day, men would leave filthy notes on my windshield. Dozens of notes left in three different states. Nothing bad happened to me and I kept the notes for years. They were oddly flattering.

Of course, I didn't take any of the men up on their offers because I'm a woman and I'm wired differently. Sex isn't a priority to me.

Anyway, I thought y'all just used those apps now to find sexual partners? Why is that any more difficult than getting approached by random men on the street?

That kinda funny about the notes r78. Did you ever find yourself tempted, maybe because the note was well-written?

Sounds scary to me r78. Some men behave so grossly

[quote] He imagined gay men going from eye contact to sucking each other off in a heartbeat.

Ahh it happens sometimes.

[quote]Yes, women are lucky all right.Being sexually harassed by Neanderthals for simply walking down the street Being hit on by Neanderthals whether they want the attention or not. Yep, those females have it made.

What the hell are you talking about?

OP is not talking about harassment or men being aggressive. He's talking about women having better odds at scoring a date or getting laid. Straight guys are notorious horndogs. How could you not have better odds?

[quote]Guys hit on them all the time

Yes it's so true.

[quote] That kinda funny about the notes [R78]. Did you ever find yourself tempted, maybe because the note was well-written?

They were never well written. Just a lot of scribbled speculation on whether or not I was wearing panties and then talk of what they wanted to do with me.

Do you fantasize about what a hard throbbing str8 cock would feel like in a real vagina between your legs...with a hot straight masculine muscular sweaty man on top of you pounding it in till he blows his wad all inside of you and then makes you suck the last drops of jizz out of his still-pulsating cock?

Oddly enough, halfway through my response I started to wonder if [R79] was looking for some fresh material and wasn't just asking out of polite curiosity. Obliged anyway.

Oddly enough, r83, I'd never heard of that happening to anyone and wondered if you were making it up, like some 50 Shades of Gray fantasy

Oh, okay.

No, not making it up. I'd park, go into a mall or a store, come out, and there'd be a note stuck under my wiper blade. Over and over again.

I never saw who left them and would just go on with my day.

Sounds like a stalker

Women don't feel threatened by a lesbian hitting on them. They react really well, whether or not they're gay or interested. Another reason being a lesbian is great.

Not true, R89. Most women are pretty grossed out or threatened by some skanky woman or a butch lesbian hitting on them.

Gay men are luckiest. We don't need to do some wine & dine skip, song and dance in order to get some. We make eye contact or make quick arrangements and that's it, straight to sex.

You're not lucky if you're cat called by:

Mexican gardeners/construction workers (hissing and kissing noises are disgusting) Construction workers of any ethnic background Bikers (motorcycle kind) Truck drivers Homeless people Drunk sports fans

NONE of them are hot.

R89 No pearl-clutching hetero frau is going to "react really well" to a lesbian hitting on her.

Camille Paglia has said she has struck out "one thousand percent of the time."

One woman I worked with received flowers at work from "her ex" about once a month. The attached note was usually vaguely threatening. We were all quite concerned for her, to the extent of inviting her to stay over at our places until the threat subsided. And she did, and with all of us who helped, she described in detail how this guy was a threat. We were scared for her, and sometimes for ourselves.

Then it came out that she was sending the flowers to herself and her "ex" was a guy she had dated for a month or two ten years earlier and he barely remembered her.

It's not women who are "lucky." I'm sure they would dispute that. It's straight people. THEY'RE lucky. They have a colossal dating pool and minimal, hog-like, standards. (Even if you a prisoner on death row, someone will marry you). Gay men? Very limited dating pool and sky-high standards.

"Don't forget tinder is a thing. There are lots of young girls who are into more casual sex, it isn't the 50s."

Tinder has significantly more male members than female ones. When Ashley Madison was hacked it was revealed that the vast majority of female profiles were fake.

"Shit, I've had both male and female coworkers pin me against a wall and shove their tongues down my throat. I had a woman come up to me in a parking lot and rip my shirt open."

Stuff like this never happens, ask any straight man. They WISH it would happen to them. You watch too much porn and confuse it with real life.

R93, it depends. If the lesbian is a bit more Portia de Rossi than Camille Paglia, then straight women tend to be less offended. Not sure CP was the best example to quote - I don't just mean her looks, when interviewed she comes across as batsh1t to me. Some straight women (but very much the minority) are up for a lesbian experience (no, I didn't see this in porn - I do mean real life, but only very occasionally, and not if the lesbian in question is unattractive).

What many straight women are up for with lesbians (I mean the non-disgusting ones) is flirting that they intend to take absolutely no further and which they see as harmless because it's not "real" the way it would be with a guy. If you're a lesbian, and you live in the real world, it can be a pleasant enough way to e.g. spend a few minutes of the working day, but it's not to be taken seriously.

The majority of lesbians I know resemble Camille Paglia more than Portia De Rossi (ex. Ellen)

[quote] What many straight women are up for with lesbians (I mean the non-disgusting ones)

More proof that the majority of women here are straight squatters,I don't know why the lesbians here put up with this shit.

Well, that used to be true even in London when I moved here 10+ years ago R99, which totally depressed me when I got here (was this what I worked hard to get to!?) but surprisingly (and happily) not so true anymore. Not sure what changed the last few years.

Can women get more men than gay guys ? And do they ?

More men are straight than gay. You do the arithmetic

R103 But there are more women than gays to go around.

And?

More competition

[quote] OP is not attractive and chooses to lash at girls as a target

How did you possibly interpret the words "women are lucky" as lashing out at females, and making them a "target."

Are you insane?

I bet the OP envies people who are stalked, too.

R16: Very true. OP must hate females if he thinks the aggressive sexual attention women get from men is enviable. There was a girl a few years back that had her face slashed by a guy because she refused his advances. Another woman was gunned down in a club because she gave a guy a fake number. A couple years ago, a teenage girl was shot and killed in HS because she turned down some loser's invitation to prom. I forgot his name, but that half-Asian kid in California went on a shooting spree against women because he couldn't get a girlfriend. A girl in the UK was murdered and dismembered by her stepbrother who was sexually obsessed with her. A disturbing amount of women have told me about adult males catcalling and making vulgar statements to them when they entered puberty and started showing signs of breasts/hips. And all this isn't counting the cases of females being disfigured in acid attacks or murdered in South Asia for turning down males who propositioned them. I'm glad this something I've never had to experience.

In order of who has the most available dick / vajeen, I think it looks like this -- I'm 1/2 asleep and in a food coma, so please correct this list. I am also having a hard time dealing wealth of straight men w/ their looks, since they both affect it:

Hot straight women

Alpha hot straight men (per all of the research on ovulation / masculine men)

Hot gay men

Above average women

Rich straight men (with looks average or above)

Above average gay men

Average looking women

Above average straight men (average or above money)

Unattractive women -- Tie -- Average gay men

Average straight men (average money)

Unattractive straight men (varies based on money)

Unattractive gay men (money has minimal effect unless excessive)

Lol, that's quite a well thought out list, R109.

Great job!

If you've ever been hit on by someone you don't find attractive, I think you can understand why women generally don't appreciate unsolicited gestures of desire.

[quote] I just wish for once, that a guy would come up to me and say "Hey, I think you're attractive. Would you like to go outwith me sometime?"

If that's what you want, you are suffering from Frau envy. Gay men want a guy to walk up and say "I want to fuck your brains out."

I used to work in a huge antique store. One of the many girls who worked on the sales floor got stocked by a male costumer. She took the stocking very casually yet at the same time was concerned. She told me this is common and it happened to her before I was stunned. All of the other girls who worked there told me stocking was very common thing that they all dealt with, very scary.

This is R113, LOL! I meant to put customer NOT costumer! LOL!

Stocked, R113? Really?

[quote]I forgot his name, but that half-Asian kid in California went on a shooting spree against women because he couldn't get a girlfriend.

If you paid attention to that story, you'd know that most of the people he killed were men. In fact, most people who are killed in violent crimes are men.

OP? Is this what you're talking about?

[quote]For gay men, we have to do all the work. Not only is our dating pool very limited, but we are also very insecure about approaching each other and asking other guys out for a date, or just saying hello.

I love when dataloungers project.

What R98 reported is correct. Being a fairly attractive lesbian, this is my daily life. Only cool, fun, attractive women do this, however. The boring /frau types tend to feel threatened by lesbians, for whatever reason.

The rest of the day (besides work) is annoying/creepy male colleagues, and bitchy females. There is the rare case of the male colleague who may become an ally, but it'll take at least a year to train him. Don't ever, ever mention you're a lesbian, in fact don't ever mention sex.

"Hookup apps" - As if connecting online for sex is something that came along with the iPhone. That shit's been going on since the first "You've got mail" in the early '90s. Get over yourselves.

At least this thread gave us R109's list.

I can't believe I even wrote that last night. I was half serious and half sarcastic...and I totally forgot lesbians. (sorry).

I met my husband on Instagram. It's really easy. You should try it.

Frau envy from shallow loser fags. Another thing hot women have to endure.

Then there's being targeted by an envious queeny flight attendant. Targeted by intimidated lesser fraus in the workplace, potential in-laws. Stalked by creepy men. Competitive female "friends".

It's life in a war zone. The backlash isn't worth it.

R124, it's ugly women who have it bad, not "hot" ones

Just ask attractive woman if she would trade places with an unattractive one. She wouldn't of course.

"If you paid attention to that story, you'd know that most of the people he killed were men. In fact, most people who are killed in violent crimes are men."

He killed the men he was jealous of for getting women. Men are more likely to be killed than women because they are more likely to deal drugs, join gangs, etc. Women are more likely to be killed by spouses or love interests than men are

We're so lucky that we can meet men even in the bathroom!

Lol, R127!

This is how you should roll, snowflakes.

R129 that was FABULOUS!

OP is a stupid twat.

Women ARE lucky. You'd never see a hot gay guy fucking a fat man unless he was being paid for it, but straight man will fuck a fat woman at the drop of a hat and free of charge.

Women are not horny and ready for sex at the drop of a hat the way men are, evolutionarily it wouldn't make ANY sense for them to be. Men go for quantity first, quality second.... a woman goes for quality, period (unless she's a giant slut). "Bad sex" for a woman is worse than no sex at all---with bad sex she gets no arousal, just pain and degradation. Good sex is so rare for straight women to get, in fact, that they're willing to put up with just about any shitty behaviour from the man who can give it to them.

BUT they can still get limitless amounts of terrible, zero-pleasure sex from desperate, horny straight men... what a prize!

R132 check out chaosbear on xtube. Big beefy hairy guy who fucks only chubby older men - for free!

Gross dude

A morbidly obese woman's ass is so much more desirable than a morbidly obese man's ass.

R125, she's not going to trade places but attractive women suffer pitfalls in life. Creepy stalking guys are a reality. They really have to watch their backs in this world. Add to that being a target of other women. Some women suffer from malignant envy and completely lose it when they feel another woman is better than them. They will go out of their way to eliminate the better woman from their workplace and/or families using all kinds of low down dirty tactics to protect their egos. It's really a problem in the workplace and holds all women back the world over.

r137, you're mainly talking about women in the workplace. The OP is talking about getting laid and into relationships. I agree that getting taken seriously is harder for women in the workplace, but most of them learn that early on and marry some sucker so they don't have to deal with a "career".

I think women also get a lot of attention from ugly guys and have to find polite ways to turn them down. That would get annoying really fast.