Let's discuss the movie Julia (1977)

What, again?

Meryl was great.

I don't recall it being discussed lately, R1.

I love the cinematography. It's every bit as beautiful as '40s film noir, but in a very different way.

Fun fact-Fred Zinnemann didn't think the reataurant patrons at Sardi's looked American enough so they actually flew over 20 NY SAG extras to London for 5 days. Several Sardi's scenes ended up being cut, though.

Love this film. I remember a character was so grateful to receive a simple breakfast in a restaurant because there was so much suffering in Europe. He asked for an egg, a roll, and some milk.

I thought Jane Fonda and Vanessa Redgrave were wonderful. The film had an unsettling urgency.

Stevie Nicks wrote her unreleased classic, "Julia", based on this movie.

A great film.

A good thread from 2015.

I looked it up a couple of months ago when I watched the film on Netflix.

I love the part where Jane/ Lilian Hellman threw her typewriter out of the window. Their home by the beach is to die for.

And Julia was reading Einstein and Hegel at Oxford:

This is one of my all-time favorite movies, even if it is all bullshit.

Lies! All lies!! Even "and" and "the"

This was a confusing movie to me when I was a kid.

So were they lesbians or not? Vanessa Redgrave seems kind of gay in it. (and what is up with that spacey gaze of hers? She is like the opposite of the ultra focused Matt Bomer.)

Let's get a famously outspoken Stalinist jew to smuggle the money into Nazi Germany! No one will notice her!

My first film. A year later I began my nominations.

Thank you.

Zionist hoodlums!!!!!!!

Ugh! Again with this film? We might as well be talking about MAME! And furthermore, I'll give a shit about JULIA when Fonda apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War. But probably not.

Grow up, R18. Post elsewhere. Now begone!

Ah yes.... that time, long long ago when movie audiences loved stylish, literate films starring an A-list cast and AMPAS would reward them with heaps of nominations and they would actually win some of them.

[quote]when Fonda apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War.

And how is that rock you've been living under?

Why weren't any of the Germans played by black people?

Racism?

That long train sequence was awesome. One of the most tense movie scenes ever filmed.

I also loved Maximilian Schell in this. He was such an amazing and handsome actor. John Glover was also good in his tiny role.

[quote]when Fonda apologizes for her treasonous acts during the Vietnam War.

She did apologize.

The starring role was first offered to Barbra Streisand, who turned it down to make The Main Event. Barbra recently said in an interview that she regrets not taking that part now.

Oh come on, you guys, R18 is obviously a parody post. Nobody actually spouts that trite old shit anymore, let alone believes it. Sheesh.

She's actually apologized over and over and over again - for decades now.

Jane needs to apologize for Grace and Frankie now.

I never liked this movie.

Redgrave did this breathless, annoying, pompous portrayal with Fonda doing the "I'm so needy" thing that mimics her real life.

Annoying too to find out Hellman appropriated a real woman's life for her drama.

Meryl was great though in a small part.

Thank you r29.

This was my only small part ever in a movie. After this I went right to featured roles.

BTW Jane hasn't been nominated since 1986 and Vanessa since 1992. How sad.

Who's going to apologize for unleashing that [italic]beast [/italic] whose name need not be repeated?

Oh no. Is G off her meds again?

I hate when this happens. SAG cuts her insurance when she doesn't work and then she spirals out of control.

Mamie!! Send your Aunt Glenn another check. She's in a bad way again.

Note to self: do not feed trolls, especially trolls who don wigs and funny accents to hide their acting deficiencies.

don't knock wigs G, they would have come in handy in Fatal Attraction. That perm!!!

Where they order caviar:

And oysters:

Cosy:

Blissful moment when your boyfriend roasts fish for dinner at the beach front of your house, while you knock back whiskey and talk about writing:

The hardworking and hard drinking playwright pauses for a sandwich:

The regrettable M, already OVER-acting:

^ oops wrong pic:

Hegel? Or Einstein?

The famished Jewish intellectual:

Can I order an egg?

r41 etc. has a lot of free time.

Will you be posting every frame of the film?

I would've liked to handle Herr Schell's two big eggs, as well as his breakfast bratwurst.

Pentimento:

Writer's block:

crazy speech

Why do they boo when she mentions Nixon?

Jane autographed these posters at a sneak preview of Julia that she and I attended. I stood by while she signed one for me to benefit a cause that I've forgotten. She was amazingly beautiful up close back then. Hayden must have been lurking about somewhere in the periphery...

A simple thank you would have sufficed:

[quote]Thank you [R29]. This was my only small part ever in a movie. After this I went right to featured roles.

Not true.

My brother lives on the rain drenched, atmospheric London street (in Hampstead).

That's my only personal connection with this film.

[quote]I would've liked to handle Herr Schell's two big eggs, as well as his breakfast bratwurst.

Whenever I've had eggs for breakfast in Paris, I think of him.

The only parts that really bore me when I re-watch this thing are the childhood flashbacks.

Thank you, R20. So true! I was a senior in high school the first time I saw Julia, at a multiplex in ultra-suburban Cerritos, California. The theatre was packed and hanging on every word and every scene. I miss those days.

Were they lesbians?

Fonda has made those insulting non-apology Vietnam.apologies blaming the transgressed - I'm sorry if my traiterous acts offended you. She still has yet to take full and unequivocal responsibility for her unforgivable behavior.

Meryl Streep talks about how generous Jane Fonda was to her with her first film role, Julia

BTW Jane was so impressed by Meryl she tried to cast her in her next film Coming Home (Penelope Milford role). But unfortunately Meryl was already booked for another project.

Meryl talked about Jane being "present" and being nice and helpful, but she didn't really praise her acting.

I wonder what she really thinks about it.

They weren't lesbians in the film. They loved each other as platonic friends.

That film won't be out til 2046. And some lucky young actress will win an Oscar for playing ME.

Shut up R52. That is a featured role. I received billing and everything.

Always remember J Fonda for entertaining the Israeli troops during the Sabra and Shatila massacres in Lebanon in 1982. That's why she more or less dropped out of politics.

re this clip...weird hearing the script writer talk so dramatically about 'the real Julia' & her friend Lillian Hellman...now e know what we know.

Are we SURE it was all fake? Was it ever cleared for certain?

I love R38

I like the liquefaction of her clothes.

Here's another Julia thread

R55:I’ve also noticed that, in a lot of biographies and memoirs, the childhood bits are almost invariably the most tedious parts; they just kill the momentum of the narrative.

I was looking for that R69 but it didn't come up in any searches for some reason.

Here it is in regular format, which I prefer. It's an especially great "Let's be" thread, isn't it?

[quote][R55]:I’ve also noticed that, in a lot of biographies and memoirs, the childhood bits are almost invariably the most tedious parts; they just kill the momentum of the narrative.

I don't agree. But they are awful in this film.

I love R1

I should have said I love R1 too.