Which Actors Seem Genuinely Conflicted About Being Closeted? Part 2

I'm honestly not sure what to make of all this tbh OP. Lily Collins definitely set alarm bells ringing for a lot of people - her list of exes speaks for itself, and the announcement of their 'breakup' came out almost exactly 3 months to the day of either the rumours getting 'leaked' or their first 'date' pictures, I can't be sure exactly which.

And now Elizabeth Olsen, who was meant to be using Tom Hiddleston as a cover for Evans? Yeah right. He was a god damn mess at the AOU premiere, and the press tour. I wonder if there's something in his personal life they're trying to cover up/divert from.

Why is the other thread closed? I thought the new DL format didn't stop at 600 posts...

r2 Perhaps it's back?

Chris Evans is not gay,you're looking for the wrong Avenger.

The "Chris Evans is a homossexual and I know it! Troll" is back!

R5 Unfortunately his straightness doesn't do him any favor to be taken seriously as an actor. Just like the other two Chris.

Chis Evans is bi and self-loathing. He's a typical frat boy from Boston that is in no way conflicted about being closeted-he's triple locked that closet door from the inside. He turns speculation on his sexuality to his brother who is openly gay, so people think they've gotten confused and its Chris' little bro they're thinking of. Sort of genius for Hollywood, really, though I doubt his coke-addled brain came up with that all by himself

Bi and straight are the same thing, if Evans is bi as far as gays are concerned he is straight.

Henry C is also straight. How do I know, sweetie I've been here for a while now, I have never seen one actor who was suppose to be gay on DL ever come out, no in fact they all went on to get married have kids and become b listers no one gives a shit about.

It's all wishful thinking.

Where the fuck are these "Chris Evans is Bi" rumors coming from?

R8 thank you for being the voice of reason

Henry Cavill = Closet Lifer

Evans is obviously straight. Let it go.

If a Hugh Jackman is gay, he isn't too conflicted about being closeted , his wife has banned him from working with Angelina Jolie.

Who posted a photo of Cavill licking the face of an attractive black guy here several months ago?

R8 Everybody wants to have a family and everybody wants to be straight, marriage and kids don't prove anything; oh my.

I was the last reply to that thread, R2. Perhaps it was something I said? Lol.

" I have never seen one actor who was suppose to be gay on DL ever come out"

R8, before they came out, the Datalounge had endless gay rumors about John Barrowman, Niel Patrick Harris, Matt Bomer, Wentworth Miller, and every other actor who's come out in the last ten years.

R17 - I was gonna say...

Only the ones that come out r17, it has never been right about the ones that don't come out.

"it [the Datalounge] has never been right about the ones that don't come out."

Your statement is illogical. Since coming out is the only true proof of an actor's gayness, it's impossible to say whether rumors about a not-out actor are true or false.

If you can't handle the ambiguous nature of gossip, get the fuck out of gossip forums.

Chris Evans being gay is just wishful thinking.

[quote] If you can't handle the ambiguous nature of gossip, get the fuck out of gossip forums.

Someone put on her bossypants this morning!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always "wishful thinking", it's always "you only think the hot men are gay". That's bullshit, but guess the fuck what? Sometimes the beautiful man the fraus lust for IS gay. No one is grabbing names out of a hat, the rumors exist for a reason. Chris Pratt is the flavor of the month, but no one here is suggesting he's secretly gay.

Everyone, even gay people, assume someone is heterosexual most of the time. But even when it's obvious, some heterosexuals look for some way out as though being gay is disgusting and awful and reserved only for the stereotypical idea they have of who a gay man is. The response becomes "HE'S gay?!" or "Why does HE have to be gay?"

Henry Cavill is gay, no matter what the Straight Troll thinks. Chris Evans is bi or gay. It is what it is. You don't have to believe it. I'm not here to convince anyone, and I don't think most of us are here to convince anyone, especially not moronic fraus who don't understand anything about gay culture and don't want their fantasies destroyed about a celebrity they'd never meet and fuck even if he was straight.

R23 - It's the fact that they react so absurdly that gets me. Why do they care if they are gay or not, let alone storm in here to shout at us? It's so fucking stupid.

So why are you convinced that Evans is gay/bi, r23?

So most celebrities are gay or bi?

If we start with that, it takes away the confusion.

R25 Because he was dating lesbians. That certainly didn't help the situation.

Any read Jeremy Renner's playboy interview, biggest asshole in Hollywood.

A guy got really drunk and pushed Julia Stiles, my co-star [in the 2005 movie A Little Trip to Heaven]. I kindly choked him out and remedied the situation. I’ve also had to choke people out because they pushed my mom or knocked my sister down, but I’ve never felt like a badass.

Obviously no conflict there.

Why do they even let him talk, R28? He sounds like he was inbred. 175 IQ my ass.

And saying J.Lo was turned on by his lame ass joke doesn't buy him any extra straight bro points. She's fucking a guy who is into transsexuals.

It would seem none of them are conflicted. I would be, I think if I had to live in closet and actively living a lie, I'd be really conflicted about it.

Kevin Spacey is Straight.

Chris Evans' brother Scott is out and gay. For some strange reason I think he's hotter than his more famous brother. He's slightly bearish, which might have something to do with it.

These threads assume a whole lot of info not in evidence.

But, that's what we do here, so speculate away.

We lonely, fat, cheetos-finger-stained parent's basement-dwellers require our entertainment!

R33 Stop projecting.

If closeted actors, never come out, R19, how does that mean Datalounge is wrong?

Yes, the ultimate proof an actor is gay is when he comes out, but even if there is nothing more than vague rumors or "wishful thinking" about an actor, that doesn't mean we're wrong, either.

Everyone thought Orlando Bloom was gay, but no he wasn't and as soon as he lost his looks we lost interest.

Hayden C, everyone thought he was gay, they even spotted him walking along a street with a man, well he must be gay and other man must be his bf, turns out Hayden is just a douchey straight boy who quit acting, had kids and lost his looks, DL lost interest.

Brandon Routh, Robert Pattison, Jesse Metcalf, same story and they are just a few names, there are many others.

R36 - I'm guessing there's at least one bisexual in those names, hence the conflict.

I remember everyone was 100% sure Jesse was gay, and turned out we were 100% wrong. I think we are also wrong about Henry Cavil, Jake G and Chris Evans. They are straight.

Please, R38. Those three are as straight as curly straws.

I still think Hayden C is gay. No r 36 I have never had a doubt about him at all.

I think of Dianna Agronn, she seems quite uncomfortable with her closet

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So a celeb is straight, as long as they do not come out and state they are gay. I am just trying to understand the logic of few on this thread.

I thought James Wolk was gay and he just got married...doubt it's for his career as he isn't very high profile...

Anyone celeb with gay rumours that sits court side at a Lakers game.

Freddie Smith has a beard he also has had sex with 1 soap blogger and one former DOOL cast member

Zac Efron on the cover of Closet party.

Who did Freddie have sex with? That fat guy from Daytime confidential?

Hayley Atwell broke up with her boyfriend yesterday. Expect dating rumours of her and Evans in the next few months.

R17 is correct.

R49 She didn't broke up with him yesterday,they broke up years ago(he alredy have a child).

Freddie with Jamie Giddens? I don't think so. That'd be too gross to be worth it.

Someone should start a thread about the soap press. They did the industry no favors by always sucking up, when they should be more critical. Nelson Branco and Jamey Giddens are/were the worst. I know they're not really "journalists," and I know Branco's been off the map since his meltdowns, but the damage has been done.

Nelson Branco, I haven't thought about him in ages!! Is he still trying his pay-for-gossip newsletter?

R51, she gave this interview that was published on the 2nd of July that stated they'd broken up. They'd been together for a while. And then she confirmed it, again, on her twitter on Saturday.

It sad so many 20something celebs are so closeted. Maybe the pandering to gays is their way of dealing with their inner conflicted.

Imagine this group - Anthony Rapp with Mackenzie Astin, Thomas Dekker, and Jonathan Bennett. And Mackenzie is so straight... tweeting about marriage equality, flirty messages with Bennett...

Are any of that group dating, Dekker and Bennett would be a hot couple.

I still don't believe none of these actors are conflicted because they know what they were signing up for anyways. They only keep up the heterosexual "facade" for work, premieres and staged photo ops, outside of that, they are themselves in real life.

Some just don't care, they would be actively anti gay of they knew it would get them more fame and bigger BO returns.

Metcalfe fucked for parts which caused the confusion. Pattison's very introverted and there was so much nonsense around his relationship with Kristen Stewart he was essentially in the closet just not about his sexuality. HC is bi.

Bloom was really the only case of true "wishful thinking" by Datalounge.

Jonathan Bennett is obviously gay. Thomas Dekker is most probably bi or gay.

R36, I swear I read somewhere lately that Brandon Routh is gay? Yeah, it was obviously gossip, and yeah.. I know he's married with a kid. I just found it strange. This source was adamant that was gay. Can't remember where I read it though..

R63 - Those claims were literally everywhere at one time. My guess is that Routh probably slept with Singer for the Superman role, purely a career move.

I know they were back then, R64. But I'm saying I read some gossip item not too long ago, hence why I was a bit confused. Back then, before he got married and had a kid it would make sense. But why did the gossip come up again now? I wish I'd remember where I read it..

R65 - Oh sorry, I misunderstood.

I hate celebs that turn up court side at the Lakers. Chace Crawford and Zac Effron's seem to show up everytime there is a gay rumour.

All of them, Katie!

[quote]Jonathan Bennett is obviously gay.

Isn't he basically out at this point? The internet has been pretty matter-of-fact about him having been with Matt Dallas in the past, and I don't remember any frenzied denials.

I don't know who had any doubts about Bennett , but he was outed by someone fairly recently.

Robert Pattinson is not straight. He went from one attentionwhore relationship to the next. It's all about mutual benefit. He should learn from Taylor Lautner and be himself!

I was going to add something about Romney supporter, Catholic Neal McDonough and found this old thread strangely through Google. Nice to know they're still around....

Four kids now. He's always seemed like someone ready to crack.

What bothers me are the older actors who are closetted, Michael C, Hall, Keanu Reeves, Kevin Spacey, RDJ...

????

I don't understand why anyone thinks Chris Evans is gay. I've never heard actual gay talk about him. The story I hear is that he is a cokehead and typical straight partyboy.

R74 - Pretty much what I've heard too.

I wonder if one could add Andrew Garfield to the list, the time out essay seemed to be from some one who could be conflicted about being closeted.

There were many rumors that Garfield (Andrew not cat) hooked up with Jesse Eisenberg when they were in that film together.

Chris Evans is now using that odd looking Jenny Slate as a beard.

If Henry Cavil is gay, I tell you he ain't conflicted about it, he totally ignored Orlando on his social media accounts, and has said he just loves being famous and rich, i think he it very materialist and totally apathetic to social issues.

Lol Henry is gay with a capital g, Perez outed him back in 08 before he became the kiss ass he is toda. Not to mention all the bullshit bad fake romances, kaley cuocoa pr showmance was so awful and fake. Can't believe there's stupid fangurls still in denial. Reminds me of went worth Miller TBH.

My sexy smart gay friend went to Oxford University with Orlando. He's gay or possibly bi.

Of course Henry Cavill is gay. His awkward press interviews are all about him choking on his own purses in order to prevent them from falling out of his mouth. There's probably no otheractor (well, apart from Tom Cruise, of course) who is so "on" and painfully self aware and trying way too hard to act butch. Even Jeremy Renner is able to relax just a little bit.

It's because of him being so uptight and tense that makes him such a bore in the first place. That's why nobody cares about him in regards of his movie career. The only people who care about him are gay gossip sites and the film studios who were stupid enough to hire him and fear their movies will be commercial failures.

I don't Henry is gay, the 19 year non famous girlfriend made him look bad, sorta creepy and sleazy. I think he PR would have preferred he dated and 20 something actress.

That's exactly why closeted celebrities pull such "controversial" stunts so guys like r83 buy it.

Oh, he can't possibly be gay. He is married and has children.

Oh, he can't possibly be gay. I saw some totally candid pap shots of him kissing a woman, like, in public!

Oh, he can't possibly be gay. He brought his mom to a premiere!

Oh, he can't possibly be gay. I saw him wearing sweat pants in public. IN PUBLIC!

Oh, he can't possibly be gay. I only dates European girls. He said so in an interview and when it's in an interview it's so true! These magazines wouldn't print a lie!

HE dates European girls.

Sorry.

Queen Latifah is probably conflicted. She has publicly supported gay rights and was deputized a few years back to officiate those weddings that happened at Grammys that featured gay and lesbian couples. Yet, she has girlfriends which she says were her assistants or personal trainers and won't come out.

Chris Evans was out with tranny faced Jenny Slate at her movie premiere. His smile looks so fake.

R86

Queen Latifah never been conflicted

She just doesn't announce it and doesn't have to

Considering it was Chris who outed his brother Scott, it'd be pretty hypocritical for him if he were gay.

Henry's sad pr team hard at work in this thread, no one believes it bitches.

Seriously R90

Henry Cavil and Chris Evans are not conflicted because neither are gay.

R92 is half correct.

I can see Chris Evans being straight, but there is no way in hell Henry Cavill isn't at least bi.

Chris Evans isn't gay but god I wish he was!

I could have it wrong, this is just speculation and I don't know for sure if any of these guys are gay, but to me guys like Andrew Garfield, Chris Pine and Chris Evans are conflicted about being in the closet and it is really is hard on them.

Guys who have made peace with it, Lee Pace and Taylor Lautner, they are OK with not coming out, accepted it and even open to the odd bearding photo op.

Jeremy Renne, Chace Crawford, Henry Cavil and Jake Gyllenhaal are guys who hate being gay and see gay as being degrading and emasculating and they have welded the closet iron door shut.

It's just a guess I could be wrong about their sexuality, so don't so off on me

If Andrew is gay, I think he is the most likely one to come out by the end of 2017, He was on the Colbert Report and he seemed to wannna be out. Also in his Pride letter he cursed which means strong emotional connections to a issue.

Anyone think Brandon Flowers s closeted and conflicted?

I'm suspicious that Chris Evans likes guys at least a little, because of a few reasons (and I think I'm pretty unbiased, being a lesbian) It started when a friend was laughing about this video she saw that made it look like CE was jealous of co star Anthony Mackie getting a hug from other co star Sebastian Stan, and we were like "oh wow, he genuinely looks pissed off/upset". But after that, any video or interview I saw (I watch a lot of them, I'm a Marvel geek) I had this at the back of my mind, and I spotted more and more stuff - though it only seemed to be with the one guy. He'd inch closer when they were sitting on a couch until their thighs were pressed together, he spotted a tiny spider on the guy's thigh during a press conference, he reached in to brush a hair off the guy's cheek during another one, and he just talks about him constantly and seems to find any excuse to touch him. He may not be 100% gay but I genuinely believe he has a crush on that one guy.

I'm a Marvel geek too R99. Your post has placed me on high alert to watch the body language, and interactions between Evans and Stan.

I thought I read somewhere that Evans, along with Ryan Reynolds, stated their willingness to play their respective characters as gay. The next Deadpool movie is rumored to be going way beyond innuendo and gay friendly flirting. Evans was supposedly quoted saying that a bromance between his character C.A. and Stan's character Bucky wouldn't be out of the question and was always hinted at in the comics.

"If a Hugh Jackman is gay, he isn't too conflicted about being closeted , his wife has banned him from working with Angelina Jolie."

She should have banned him from working with Jake G. Allegedly, they had a gay old time filming "Prisoners."

There is no way Stan and Evans are involved. It's shipping of fangirls. Though Stan might be bisexual.

Evans and his current gf broke up a few days ago. But yeah I think most actors are straight the odd few might be gay but their careers are stomped out early on and most never become well known house names. The odd ones that do are glass the glass closet cases who have zero conflict about being gay and closeted, becuase they realise how lucky the are to have a career in such a homophobic place like Hollywood.

Sometimes I think Andrew Garfield might be genuinely conflicted about being gay, assuming he is, he seems like he wants to come out. But then I read on UK forums people who knew him in college says he is straight and Entertainment Lawyer has a good few bis about him being straight too.

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I’m surprised one has mentioned Bradley Cooper or Leo D. yet.

Me. Never telling you who I am, but yes... Even closested celebrities read this blog. I will tell you, a few of you have nailed it on the head with closested celebs. When I first came to Hollywood, was shocked at how many actors were in the closet.

So Evans broke up with his faghag.

Jake Gyllenhaal seems like the type who would secretly like to have a boyfriend, go to Broadway musicals together, have kids.

What a classic old thread. It’s great to see old conversations about actors who have come out.

Thanks, R107, whoever you may be.

I’m adding Vin Diesel to this list. He tries so hard to butch it up, and yet...

More on Chris Evans please!

He’s not an actor, but Shawn Mendes seems to be struggling with his true gay self.

Also Channing Tatum.

I'm sure that I saw Vin Diesel on the Alan Carr show ( the new, British, non caftan wearing Alan Carr) being very "relaxed" in his mannerisms. he "outgayed" the not backwards in coming forwards host by a million to one and didn't seem to realise it. It was either that or he was taking the kiss out of Alan in the most homophobic way.......legs tucked under himself..all he needed was a sandwich and a blanket.

R115 This I need to see. Do you have a link?

Keanu Reeves

....

Saoirse Ronan

Is Saorise gay? I'd definitely buy that.

Saoirse and her gf Eileen O'Higgins

Eric McCormack

If Chris Evans is gay, he'll be 90 before he comes out.

Saoirse Ronan? Didn’t see that coming.

[quote] When I first came to Hollywood, was shocked at how many actors were in the closet.

So you've never met an actor before? Pretty much all the sluts and 'fags' from drama club are now in Hollywood. They didn't turn straight out of the sudden and they didn't become cookie cutter either, that's what PR is there for.

Alex Skarsgard

I was sure someone was going to explain how they attached censors to a bunch of actors to monitor their brainwaves. And there would be a control group and so forth-- that somehow "feeling conflicted" had been made quantifiable like blood sugar levels.

But nope.

I was living in a fantasy world of dolls and booze. Well, dolls and alcohol sugars. And it this point, Rod Serling breaks in and does his little two liner setting up the plot. You know genius math professor or madman who hears voices from Outer Space. You have to capitalize Outer Space in this context. It stands in for another capitalized quandry.

It could be argued that this kind of thing is the apotheosis of nerd culture. I mean, I would never make that argument. What am I, twelve?

And at that point, my face would flip open, revealing my robot underpinnings and the fact that my serial number ends with the number twelve.

But you've fallen asleep at this point and the last words you remember are "Outer Space."

That's life, man. That's life.

While I do think any closeted actor should probably come out and improve the situation of gay people (and thus the world) that bit more, I also think many of you mistake an increased public comfort with being gay.

Tom Hiddleston

John Travolta.

R131 I think he’s made his peace with the closet.

I'm surprised Chris is so closeted, considering he's the one who outed his brother years ago.

Is it true he's into black guys?

He probably has to stay closeted 'til A4 is finished making money at the global BO.

R128 Whatever you're on, i want some of it.

You beat me to it, R136.

R130 I had quite put Hiddleston's Hamlet and indeed Bloom's Romeo out of my mind, but here it all comes flooding back again no thanks to you.

Perhaps we ought to discourage closeted actors from attempting the Bard until they can learn to separate their craft from their ardent wish for publicity.

[quote]I'm surprised Chris is so closeted, considering he's the one who outed his brother years ago.

What was the deal with that? Never got the particulars.

He outed his brother by saying he refused to go to a gay club with him and his friends because he didn't want to have to deal with gay rumors. Pretty shitty was of outing and humiliating him all at once.

Thanks, R140. What a tool.

Oh yeah, what magazine was it where Chris was quoted as saying, “I’m down with the gays...” or something like that. It sounded so patronizing.

Bumping

R70 Pattinson is definitely not straight he's now bearding with Bradley Cooper's ex beard!

Kristen Stewart came out but didn't identify as gay or bisexual and she had boyfriend before her fame and dated Lane Garrison the guy from Camp X-Ray

[quote]Pattinson is definitely not straight he's now bearding with Bradley Cooper's ex beard!

I gave up trying to figure out Pattinson several years ago.

He's so eccentric.